Hello list,

I do a lot of number typing and because of this, I finally got tired of toggeling the numlock key on and off and forgetting what it was on. I decided to get an external numeric keypad and using it for the data entry part and leaving the onboard numpad as the navigation keys.

Anyway, I ended up buying the Jelly Comb wireless model: https://www.amazon.com/Jelly-Comb-Wireless-Receiver-Compatible/dp/B01HLTH7YE

The computer recognizes it fine with the little wireless dongle, but I’m finding that when I try to use it, Jaws will say “numlock off” for every single number on the 10-key when in the number state. Also, regardless if numlock is on or off, the / and * keys above #8 and 9 will activate as left and right mouse click. Not good if you want to punch in dates.

Anyway, I was wondering if anyone’s actually using an external numeric keypad be it this one or some other model and if there’s either a fix for these particular issues or maybe there’s a specific model that plays well with Jaws?

I can even live with the numlock off announcement thing if I really, really had to, but the left and right mouse button thing I find really disruptive since without it, there’s no quick and convenient way to punch in dates.

Thanks,

Cristóbal

Hi, Cristóbal. When you want to enter the Star or Slash, try the JAWS Pass through key first, JAWS key plus three on the numbers row of the laptop.

Hello list,

I do a lot of number typing and because of this, I finally got tired of toggeling the numlock key on and off and forgetting what it was on. I decided to get an external numeric keypad and using it for the data entry part and leaving the onboard numpad as the navigation keys.

Anyway, I ended up buying the Jelly Comb wireless model: https://www.amazon.com/Jelly-Comb-Wireless-Receiver-Compatible/dp/B01HLTH7YE

The computer recognizes it fine with the little wireless dongle, but I’m finding that when I try to use it, Jaws will say “numlock off” for every single number on the 10-key when in the number state. Also, regardless if numlock is on or off, the / and * keys above #8 and 9 will activate as left and right mouse click. Not good if you want to punch in dates.

Anyway, I was wondering if anyone’s actually using an external numeric keypad be it this one or some other model and if there’s either a fix for these particular issues or maybe there’s a specific model that plays well with Jaws?

I can even live with the numlock off announcement thing if I really, really had to, but the left and right mouse button thing I find really disruptive since without it, there’s no quick and convenient way to punch in dates.

Thanks,

Cristóbal

Hi, Cristóbal. When you want to enter the Star or Slash, try the JAWS Pass through key first, JAWS key plus three on the numbers row of the laptop.

Hello list,

I do a lot of number typing and because of this, I finally got tired of toggeling the numlock key on and off and forgetting what it was on. I decided to get an external numeric keypad and using it for the data entry part and leaving the onboard numpad as the navigation keys.

Anyway, I ended up buying the Jelly Comb wireless model: https://www.amazon.com/Jelly-Comb-Wireless-Receiver-Compatible/dp/B01HLTH7YE

The computer recognizes it fine with the little wireless dongle, but I’m finding that when I try to use it, Jaws will say “numlock off” for every single number on the 10-key when in the number state. Also, regardless if numlock is on or off, the / and * keys above #8 and 9 will activate as left and right mouse click. Not good if you want to punch in dates.

Anyway, I was wondering if anyone’s actually using an external numeric keypad be it this one or some other model and if there’s either a fix for these particular issues or maybe there’s a specific model that plays well with Jaws?

I can even live with the numlock off announcement thing if I really, really had to, but the left and right mouse button thing I find really disruptive since without it, there’s no quick and convenient way to punch in dates.

Thanks,

Cristóbal

I know I can do this, but it then kind of defeats the purpose and convenience intended by having the external keypad with the extra going back and forth and additional step.

I don’t mind trying another model if it perhaps makes a difference, but if these are universal issues, then what would the point be then?

I was hoping there were some Jaws users with a numbers/accounting background who maybe know of a particular external pad that doesn’t present these issues or if there’s some sort of keymapping/overriding one can do get get it to work as intended.

Hi, Cristóbal. When you want to enter the Star or Slash, try the JAWS Pass through key first, JAWS key plus three on the numbers row of the laptop.

Hello list,

I do a lot of number typing and because of this, I finally got tired of toggeling the numlock key on and off and forgetting what it was on. I decided to get an external numeric keypad and using it for the data entry part and leaving the onboard numpad as the navigation keys.

Anyway, I ended up buying the Jelly Comb wireless model: https://www.amazon.com/Jelly-Comb-Wireless-Receiver-Compatible/dp/B01HLTH7YE

The computer recognizes it fine with the little wireless dongle, but I’m finding that when I try to use it, Jaws will say “numlock off” for every single number on the 10-key when in the number state. Also, regardless if numlock is on or off, the / and * keys above #8 and 9 will activate as left and right mouse click. Not good if you want to punch in dates.

Anyway, I was wondering if anyone’s actually using an external numeric keypad be it this one or some other model and if there’s either a fix for these particular issues or maybe there’s a specific model that plays well with Jaws?

I can even live with the numlock off announcement thing if I really, really had to, but the left and right mouse button thing I find really disruptive since without it, there’s no quick and convenient way to punch in dates.

Thanks,

Cristóbal

Hello list,

I do a lot of number typing and because of this, I finally got tired of toggeling the numlock key on and off and forgetting what it was on. I decided to get an external numeric keypad and using it for the data entry part and leaving the onboard numpad as the navigation keys.

Anyway, I ended up buying the Jelly Comb wireless model: https://www.amazon.com/Jelly-Comb-Wireless-Receiver-Compatible/dp/B01HLTH7YE

The computer recognizes it fine with the little wireless dongle, but I’m finding that when I try to use it, Jaws will say “numlock off” for every single number on the 10-key when in the number state. Also, regardless if numlock is on or off, the / and * keys above #8 and 9 will activate as left and right mouse click. Not good if you want to punch in dates.

Anyway, I was wondering if anyone’s actually using an external numeric keypad be it this one or some other model and if there’s either a fix for these particular issues or maybe there’s a specific model that plays well with Jaws?

I can even live with the numlock off announcement thing if I really, really had to, but the left and right mouse button thing I find really disruptive since without it, there’s no quick and convenient way to punch in dates.

Thanks,

Cristóbal

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 4:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using an external numeric keypad with Jaws and encountering some problems

There's a reason I have VFO Technical Support e-mail in my contacts!   I can't count the number of times I've written to them to try to determine "where the fault lies" in instances like this.
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

What if you turn off the keyboard ecko?

 

Love in Christ
Marty

 

From: Cristóbal

Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 6:42 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Using an external numeric keypad with Jaws and encountering some problems

 

Yes. Numlock on or off doesn’t’ change the behavior of the * or / keys. Like I said, when numlock is off, the external numeric keypad works perfectly fine for navigation commands and whatever other Jaws commands, but it’s when numlock is on for the actual number function do I get the numlock off announcement for every number I press. The numbers do indeed register, but you can imagine how distracting hhearing that spoken every time you punching in something. Especially if you’re trying to take down information over the phone.

Another thing, The plus key above the enter key is always the PC cursor regardless of numlock status. Similar to the left and right mouse key behavior.

It’s perfectly fine that the left and right mouse keys behave as they should with numlock off, but when it’s toggled to on that it becomes an issue.

That’s why I was curious to know if this was perhaps something isolated to a particular numeric keypad or if it’s something of a more general Jaws conflict.

 

Cristóbal

 

From: main@jf

w.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 4:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using an external numeric keypad with Jaws and encountering some problems

 

On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 06:40 PM, Bill White wrote:

The reason the Star and Slash say left and right mouse is that, these are the keys for the left and right mouse in JAWS.

But that's only supposed to be the case if Num Lock is off.  I've used the internal number pad in "full number pad mode" on machines running JAWS, using slash for divide and star for multiply when in calculator programs or others that recognize them as math operators when number lock was on.  It has been a while, however.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back