Since I first got Jaws in 98, Jaws 2.0, There has been within the program, the ability to set up in Jaws properties, to set up a short cut key. One can set up an alternative screen reader, to get one on the desk top. As was said in the post below. Then, turn it off. Once Jaws begins working. That way, should Jaws not work, for some reason. One can get it up and working once more. Using the alternative screen reader. Which is why, I don’t agree with the idea the alternate screen reader ought be set up to close. Once the desk top shows itself. Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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From: Sieghard WeitzelSent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 11:06 PM To: main@jfw.groups.ioSubject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10 And why can Jaws not be started with a single keystroke under Windows 10? If you set up a keyboard shortcut like Control + Shift + J it works just fine and both in Jaws 2019 and 2020 Jaws Key + F4 shuts Jaws down immediately if you tell it in Settings not to prompt you to exit Jaws. The one true statement is that Narrator starts faster, but if you know Jaws takes a few seconds it's not a big deal. Lastly, George's suggestion did not suggest that you can't still start Narrator with Control + Windows + Enter, the way I understand it is simply that he recommends instead of telling Jaws to speak at the logon screen to set up Narrator to do this, but then to configure Narrator not to run automatically after the desktop loads but to let Jaws take over again. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 1:03 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10 Sure; even going back as far as Windows 98 sometimes you would hear a shutdown sound but the PC still would not shut down. The sound is just one thing in a series of tasks executed when one performs a shutdown. And it's never going to be one of the last tasks executed, because shutting down background programmes like the stuff that makes your sound device work is also part of the sequence. So a shutdown sound guarantees ... not much, really, just that the specific operation designated "play shutdown sound" has executed. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: January 8, 2020 11:17 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10 And even in Windows 7 I had situations where the shut-down sound played and then one of my sighted employees or my wife said the computer had not powered down because of some message which Jaws didn't read any more. But adding it to Windows 10 as an elevated task as I described in my other email does work well and it's better than nothing. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 3:38 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10 Unfortunately, there is no shutdown sound in Windows 10. Hacking the registry to produce logoff or shutdown sounds is a bad idea, no matter what the other "experts" on this list may tell you to the contrary. The bottom line is that hacking the registry can often produce unwanted or unpredictable results. If you want to be sure that your computer has completely powered off after you initiate a shutdown, I suggest purchasing a small USB-powered cooling fan and connecting it to a front or rear panel USB port. When the computer powers off, the fan will stop spinning. Simple as that. Gerald On 1/8/2020 1:40 AM, Shankar C wrote: > Hi bill, hope things are well at you. > I am using windows 10 1903 with jaws 2020 on my dell laptop. > I have downloaded the Shutdown-Logoff-Logon-Sound-Hacks folder and > extracted, and added them in the windows Registry. > and on the sound events, I also checked the check box which says play sounds. > now, I can able to eare only logon sounds. > I am unable to eare the sounds for other events such as logoff, > shutdown, and restart. > > I kindly request you to help me on this. > > > > > > > On 8/3/18, Robert Wright <wrightsiphone@...> wrote: >> I was able to get windows log on and off to show in the registry but >> exit is still not showing. >> >> character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for >> you! *** >> >> From: Tom >> Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 3:26 AM >> To: main@jfw.groups.io >> Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10 >> >> Thanks Bill. >> >> Tom >> >> >> From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of >> Bill White >> Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2018 3:59 PM >> To: main@jfw.groups.io >> Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10 >> >> Yes, it works. >> >> “System Exit” is the event associated with shutdown. >> >> “Windows logoff” is associated with signing off to log on as a >> different user. >> >> Bill White >> billwhite92701@... >> >> From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom >> Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 9:01 PM >> To: main@jfw.groups.io >> Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10 >> >> Hi Bill, >> I downloaded the file containing the scripts you mentioned and unzipped it. >> The unzip procedure creates three folders each containing 2 files. >> >> What is the difference between “System Exit” and Windows logoff”? >> >> Have you tried this technique and did it work? >> >> Thanks >> Tom >> >> >> From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of >> Bill White >> Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2018 7:19 AM >> To: JFW Mailing List <jfw@groups.io> >> Subject: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10 >> >> Hi. I tried to send this message to the JAWS list before, but it >> hasn't shown up in the last 27 minutes, so I am sending it again, in >> hopes that it will get through this time. >> >> In case someone cannot find this page on Ehow, I am including the >> link below that will download the zip file containing the registry >> edit scripts that will return the logon, logoff and system exit >> events back to the Sound settings without having to manually edit the registry. >> >> https://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Shutdown-Logoff- >> Logon-Sound-Hacks.zip >> >> Bill White >> billwhite92701@... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
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And why can Jaws not be started with a single keystroke under Windows 10? If you set up a keyboard shortcut like Control + Shift + J it works just fine and both in Jaws 2019 and 2020 Jaws Key + F4 shuts Jaws down immediately if you tell it in Settings not to prompt you to exit Jaws. The one true statement is that Narrator starts faster, but if you know Jaws takes a few seconds it's not a big deal. Lastly, George's suggestion did not suggest that you can't still start Narrator with Control + Windows + Enter, the way I understand it is simply that he recommends instead of telling Jaws to speak at the logon screen to set up Narrator to do this, but then to configure Narrator not to run automatically after the desktop loads but to let Jaws take over again.
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-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 1:03 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10 Sure; even going back as far as Windows 98 sometimes you would hear a shutdown sound but the PC still would not shut down. The sound is just one thing in a series of tasks executed when one performs a shutdown. And it's never going to be one of the last tasks executed, because shutting down background programmes like the stuff that makes your sound device work is also part of the sequence. So a shutdown sound guarantees ... not much, really, just that the specific operation designated "play shutdown sound" has executed. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: January 8, 2020 11:17 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10 And even in Windows 7 I had situations where the shut-down sound played and then one of my sighted employees or my wife said the computer had not powered down because of some message which Jaws didn't read any more. But adding it to Windows 10 as an elevated task as I described in my other email does work well and it's better than nothing. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 3:38 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10 Unfortunately, there is no shutdown sound in Windows 10. Hacking the registry to produce logoff or shutdown sounds is a bad idea, no matter what the other "experts" on this list may tell you to the contrary. The bottom line is that hacking the registry can often produce unwanted or unpredictable results. If you want to be sure that your computer has completely powered off after you initiate a shutdown, I suggest purchasing a small USB-powered cooling fan and connecting it to a front or rear panel USB port. When the computer powers off, the fan will stop spinning. Simple as that. Gerald On 1/8/2020 1:40 AM, Shankar C wrote: Hi bill, hope things are well at you. I am using windows 10 1903 with jaws 2020 on my dell laptop. I have downloaded the Shutdown-Logoff-Logon-Sound-Hacks folder and extracted, and added them in the windows Registry. and on the sound events, I also checked the check box which says play sounds. now, I can able to eare only logon sounds. I am unable to eare the sounds for other events such as logoff, shutdown, and restart.
I kindly request you to help me on this.
On 8/3/18, Robert Wright <wrightsiphone@gmail.com> wrote:
I was able to get windows log on and off to show in the registry but exit is still not showing.
character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you! ***
From: Tom Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 3:26 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Thanks Bill.
Tom
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2018 3:59 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Yes, it works.
“System Exit” is the event associated with shutdown.
“Windows logoff” is associated with signing off to log on as a different user.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 9:01 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Hi Bill, I downloaded the file containing the scripts you mentioned and unzipped it. The unzip procedure creates three folders each containing 2 files.
What is the difference between “System Exit” and Windows logoff”?
Have you tried this technique and did it work?
Thanks Tom
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2018 7:19 AM To: JFW Mailing List <jfw@groups.io> Subject: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Hi. I tried to send this message to the JAWS list before, but it hasn't shown up in the last 27 minutes, so I am sending it again, in hopes that it will get through this time.
In case someone cannot find this page on Ehow, I am including the link below that will download the zip file containing the registry edit scripts that will return the logon, logoff and system exit events back to the Sound settings without having to manually edit the registry.
https://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Shutdown-Logoff- Logon-Sound-Hacks.zip
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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Sure; even going back as far as Windows 98 sometimes you would hear a shutdown sound but the PC still would not shut down. The sound is just one thing in a series of tasks executed when one performs a shutdown. And it's never going to be one of the last tasks executed, because shutting down background programmes like the stuff that makes your sound device work is also part of the sequence. So a shutdown sound guarantees ... not much, really, just that the specific operation designated "play shutdown sound" has executed.
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-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: January 8, 2020 11:17 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10 And even in Windows 7 I had situations where the shut-down sound played and then one of my sighted employees or my wife said the computer had not powered down because of some message which Jaws didn't read any more. But adding it to Windows 10 as an elevated task as I described in my other email does work well and it's better than nothing. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 3:38 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10 Unfortunately, there is no shutdown sound in Windows 10. Hacking the registry to produce logoff or shutdown sounds is a bad idea, no matter what the other "experts" on this list may tell you to the contrary. The bottom line is that hacking the registry can often produce unwanted or unpredictable results. If you want to be sure that your computer has completely powered off after you initiate a shutdown, I suggest purchasing a small USB-powered cooling fan and connecting it to a front or rear panel USB port. When the computer powers off, the fan will stop spinning. Simple as that. Gerald On 1/8/2020 1:40 AM, Shankar C wrote: Hi bill, hope things are well at you. I am using windows 10 1903 with jaws 2020 on my dell laptop. I have downloaded the Shutdown-Logoff-Logon-Sound-Hacks folder and extracted, and added them in the windows Registry. and on the sound events, I also checked the check box which says play sounds. now, I can able to eare only logon sounds. I am unable to eare the sounds for other events such as logoff, shutdown, and restart.
I kindly request you to help me on this.
On 8/3/18, Robert Wright <wrightsiphone@gmail.com> wrote:
I was able to get windows log on and off to show in the registry but exit is still not showing.
character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you! ***
From: Tom Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 3:26 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Thanks Bill.
Tom
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2018 3:59 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Yes, it works.
“System Exit” is the event associated with shutdown.
“Windows logoff” is associated with signing off to log on as a different user.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 9:01 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Hi Bill, I downloaded the file containing the scripts you mentioned and unzipped it. The unzip procedure creates three folders each containing 2 files.
What is the difference between “System Exit” and Windows logoff”?
Have you tried this technique and did it work?
Thanks Tom
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2018 7:19 AM To: JFW Mailing List <jfw@groups.io> Subject: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Hi. I tried to send this message to the JAWS list before, but it hasn't shown up in the last 27 minutes, so I am sending it again, in hopes that it will get through this time.
In case someone cannot find this page on Ehow, I am including the link below that will download the zip file containing the registry edit scripts that will return the logon, logoff and system exit events back to the Sound settings without having to manually edit the registry.
https://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Shutdown-Logoff- Logon-Sound-Hacks.zip
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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Even better when it's with an actual "college" degree...
Cristóbal
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-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 10:37 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10 That is ok, I love being called stupid with a collage degree...lol -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Groups.Io Sent: January 8, 2020 10:09 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10 But you cannot toggle NVDA or JAWS on or off at will with a keystroke in Windows 10 like you can with Narrator, which is a great convenience. And Narrator comes up immediately with the Control-Windows key-Enter command. There is no delay like there is with NVDA or JAWS. And it can be closed with this same keystroke,unlike JAWS and NVDA, which require multiple keystrokes to close. And there are times when when neither JAWS nor NVDA will speak due to some technical glitch, but because Narrator is built into the operating system, it will almost always work. So setting it so that it can be used to only announce log on and log off is not a good idea, in my humble opinion. Sorry if I came on too strongly in my previous message. Gerald On 1/8/2020 12:23 PM, Marty Hutchings wrote: Really Gerald. Can we lay off of the attacks please. It was a suggestion. I personally use NVDA to tell me what is going on when JAWS quits for no reason. I did not know that you could set Narrator to only speak at log on and off.
Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Gerald Levy via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2020 11:07 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
How stupid is that? If JAWS stops speaking for some reason, then you won't be able to toggle on Narrator to troubleshoot the problem.
Gerald
On 1/8/2020 11:49 AM, george b wrote:
Set naraitor to only run at log on and shutdown and it will tell you the log on info and it will say logging off when shutting down and will not speak anywhere els after logging in
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell Sent: January 8, 2020 8:45 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
I have two ways of knowing my laptop has shut down. I can press on the cd player, and if it opens, the laptop is still on. Also, my external speaker makes a sound when the laptop shuts down.
Maria Campbell lucky1inct@gmail.com
All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
On 1/8/2020 11:42 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Or, instead of buying such a device, plug in your iPhone or whatever you have, just make sure you don't use the port which many computers now have and which can charge even with the laptop turned off. If the computer is still on, your phone will start to charge.
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 8:39 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Which is why the only reliable means of determining whether your computer has powered off is to connect a small USB powered cooling fan to one of the USB ports. This is especially useful if your computer has an SSD or internal fan that emits little or no mechanical noise or vibration of its own.
Gerald
On 1/8/2020 11:17 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
And even in Windows 7 I had situations where the shut-down sound played and then one of my sighted employees or my wife said the computer had not powered down because of some message which Jaws didn't read any more. But adding it to Windows 10 as an elevated task as I described in my other email does work well and it's better than nothing.
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 3:38 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Unfortunately, there is no shutdown sound in Windows 10. Hacking the registry to produce logoff or shutdown sounds is a bad idea, no matter what the other "experts" on this list may tell you to the contrary. The bottom line is that hacking the registry can often produce unwanted or unpredictable results. If you want to be sure that your computer has completely powered off after you initiate a shutdown, I suggest purchasing a small USB-powered cooling fan and connecting it to a front or rear panel USB port. When the computer powers off, the fan will stop spinning. Simple as that.
Gerald
On 1/8/2020 1:40 AM, Shankar C wrote:
Hi bill, hope things are well at you. I am using windows 10 1903 with jaws 2020 on my dell laptop. I have downloaded the Shutdown-Logoff-Logon-Sound-Hacks folder and extracted, and added them in the windows Registry. and on the sound events, I also checked the check box which says play sounds. now, I can able to eare only logon sounds. I am unable to eare the sounds for other events such as logoff, shutdown, and restart.
I kindly request you to help me on this.
On 8/3/18, Robert Wright <wrightsiphone@gmail.com> wrote:
I was able to get windows log on and off to show in the registry but exit is still not showing.
character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you! ***
From: Tom Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 3:26 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Thanks Bill.
Tom
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2018 3:59 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Yes, it works.
“System Exit” is the event associated with shutdown.
“Windows logoff” is associated with signing off to log on as a different user.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 9:01 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Hi Bill, I downloaded the file containing the scripts you mentioned and unzipped it. The unzip procedure creates three folders each containing 2 files.
What is the difference between “System Exit” and Windows logoff”?
Have you tried this technique and did it work?
Thanks Tom
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2018 7:19 AM To: JFW Mailing List <jfw@groups.io> Subject: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Hi. I tried to send this message to the JAWS list before, but it hasn't shown up in the last 27 minutes, so I am sending it again, in hopes that it will get through this time.
In case someone cannot find this page on Ehow, I am including the link below that will download the zip file containing the registry edit scripts that will return the logon, logoff and system exit events back to the Sound settings without having to manually edit the registry.
https://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Shutdown-Log of f - Logon-Sound-Hacks.zip
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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Gerald, what you do is not the only way to do things, and you should not keep on criticizing what others do that work for them. Stop being such an ass. Please and thank you.
Maria Campbell lucky1inct@gmail.com
All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
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On 1/8/2020 12:07 PM, Gerald Levy via Groups.Io wrote: How stupid is that? If JAWS stops speaking for some reason, then you won't be able to toggle on Narrator to troubleshoot the problem.
Gerald
On 1/8/2020 11:49 AM, george b wrote:
Set naraitor to only run at log on and shutdown and it will tell you the log on info and it will say logging off when shutting down and will not speek anywhere els after logging in
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell Sent: January 8, 2020 8:45 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
I have two ways of knowing my laptop has shut down. I can press on the cd player, and if it opens, the laptop is still on. Also, my external speaker makes a sound when the laptop shuts down.
Maria Campbell lucky1inct@gmail.com
All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
On 1/8/2020 11:42 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Or, instead of buying such a device, plug in your iPhone or whatever you have, just make sure you don't use the port which many computers now have and which can charge even with the laptop turned off. If the computer is still on, your phone will start to charge.
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 8:39 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Which is why the only reliable means of determining whether your computer has powered off is to connect a small USB powered cooling fan to one of the USB ports. This is especially useful if your computer has an SSD or internal fan that emits little or no mechanical noise or vibration of its own.
Gerald
On 1/8/2020 11:17 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
And even in Windows 7 I had situations where the shut-down sound played and then one of my sighted employees or my wife said the computer had not powered down because of some message which Jaws didn't read any more. But adding it to Windows 10 as an elevated task as I described in my other email does work well and it's better than nothing.
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 3:38 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Unfortunately, there is no shutdown sound in Windows 10. Hacking the registry to produce logoff or shutdown sounds is a bad idea, no matter what the other "experts" on this list may tell you to the contrary. The bottom line is that hacking the registry can often produce unwanted or unpredictable results. If you want to be sure that your computer has completely powered off after you initiate a shutdown, I suggest purchasing a small USB-powered cooling fan and connecting it to a front or rear panel USB port. When the computer powers off, the fan will stop spinning. Simple as that.
Gerald
On 1/8/2020 1:40 AM, Shankar C wrote:
Hi bill, hope things are well at you. I am using windows 10 1903 with jaws 2020 on my dell laptop. I have downloaded the Shutdown-Logoff-Logon-Sound-Hacks folder and extracted, and added them in the windows Registry. and on the sound events, I also checked the check box which says play sounds. now, I can able to eare only logon sounds. I am unable to eare the sounds for other events such as logoff, shutdown, and restart.
I kindly request you to help me on this.
On 8/3/18, Robert Wright <wrightsiphone@gmail.com> wrote:
I was able to get windows log on and off to show in the registry but exit is still not showing.
character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you! ***
From: Tom Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 3:26 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Thanks Bill.
Tom
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2018 3:59 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Yes, it works.
“System Exit” is the event associated with shutdown.
“Windows logoff” is associated with signing off to log on as a different user.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 9:01 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Hi Bill, I downloaded the file containing the scripts you mentioned and unzipped it. The unzip procedure creates three folders each containing 2 files.
What is the difference between “System Exit” and Windows logoff”?
Have you tried this technique and did it work?
Thanks Tom
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2018 7:19 AM To: JFW Mailing List <jfw@groups.io> Subject: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Hi. I tried to send this message to the JAWS list before, but it hasn't shown up in the last 27 minutes, so I am sending it again, in hopes that it will get through this time.
In case someone cannot find this page on Ehow, I am including the link below that will download the zip file containing the registry edit scripts that will return the logon, logoff and system exit events back to the Sound settings without having to manually edit the registry.
https://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Shutdown-Logof f - Logon-Sound-Hacks.zip
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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That is ok, I love being called stupid with a collage degree...lol
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-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Groups.Io Sent: January 8, 2020 10:09 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10 But you cannot toggle NVDA or JAWS on or off at will with a keystroke in Windows 10 like you can with Narrator, which is a great convenience. And Narrator comes up immediately with the Control-Windows key-Enter command. There is no delay like there is with NVDA or JAWS. And it can be closed with this same keystroke,unlike JAWS and NVDA, which require multiple keystrokes to close. And there are times when when neither JAWS nor NVDA will speak due to some technical glitch, but because Narrator is built into the operating system, it will almost always work. So setting it so that it can be used to only announce log on and log off is not a good idea, in my humble opinion. Sorry if I came on too strongly in my previous message. Gerald On 1/8/2020 12:23 PM, Marty Hutchings wrote: Really Gerald. Can we lay off of the attacks please. It was a suggestion. I personally use NVDA to tell me what is going on when JAWS quits for no reason. I did not know that you could set Narrator to only speak at log on and off.
Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Gerald Levy via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2020 11:07 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
How stupid is that? If JAWS stops speaking for some reason, then you won't be able to toggle on Narrator to troubleshoot the problem.
Gerald
On 1/8/2020 11:49 AM, george b wrote:
Set naraitor to only run at log on and shutdown and it will tell you the log on info and it will say logging off when shutting down and will not speak anywhere els after logging in
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell Sent: January 8, 2020 8:45 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
I have two ways of knowing my laptop has shut down. I can press on the cd player, and if it opens, the laptop is still on. Also, my external speaker makes a sound when the laptop shuts down.
Maria Campbell lucky1inct@gmail.com
All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
On 1/8/2020 11:42 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Or, instead of buying such a device, plug in your iPhone or whatever you have, just make sure you don't use the port which many computers now have and which can charge even with the laptop turned off. If the computer is still on, your phone will start to charge.
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 8:39 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Which is why the only reliable means of determining whether your computer has powered off is to connect a small USB powered cooling fan to one of the USB ports. This is especially useful if your computer has an SSD or internal fan that emits little or no mechanical noise or vibration of its own.
Gerald
On 1/8/2020 11:17 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
And even in Windows 7 I had situations where the shut-down sound played and then one of my sighted employees or my wife said the computer had not powered down because of some message which Jaws didn't read any more. But adding it to Windows 10 as an elevated task as I described in my other email does work well and it's better than nothing.
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 3:38 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Unfortunately, there is no shutdown sound in Windows 10. Hacking the registry to produce logoff or shutdown sounds is a bad idea, no matter what the other "experts" on this list may tell you to the contrary. The bottom line is that hacking the registry can often produce unwanted or unpredictable results. If you want to be sure that your computer has completely powered off after you initiate a shutdown, I suggest purchasing a small USB-powered cooling fan and connecting it to a front or rear panel USB port. When the computer powers off, the fan will stop spinning. Simple as that.
Gerald
On 1/8/2020 1:40 AM, Shankar C wrote:
Hi bill, hope things are well at you. I am using windows 10 1903 with jaws 2020 on my dell laptop. I have downloaded the Shutdown-Logoff-Logon-Sound-Hacks folder and extracted, and added them in the windows Registry. and on the sound events, I also checked the check box which says play sounds. now, I can able to eare only logon sounds. I am unable to eare the sounds for other events such as logoff, shutdown, and restart.
I kindly request you to help me on this.
On 8/3/18, Robert Wright <wrightsiphone@gmail.com> wrote:
I was able to get windows log on and off to show in the registry but exit is still not showing.
character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you! ***
From: Tom Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 3:26 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Thanks Bill.
Tom
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2018 3:59 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Yes, it works.
“System Exit” is the event associated with shutdown.
“Windows logoff” is associated with signing off to log on as a different user.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 9:01 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Hi Bill, I downloaded the file containing the scripts you mentioned and unzipped it. The unzip procedure creates three folders each containing 2 files.
What is the difference between “System Exit” and Windows logoff”?
Have you tried this technique and did it work?
Thanks Tom
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2018 7:19 AM To: JFW Mailing List <jfw@groups.io> Subject: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Hi. I tried to send this message to the JAWS list before, but it hasn't shown up in the last 27 minutes, so I am sending it again, in hopes that it will get through this time.
In case someone cannot find this page on Ehow, I am including the link below that will download the zip file containing the registry edit scripts that will return the logon, logoff and system exit events back to the Sound settings without having to manually edit the registry.
https://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Shutdown-Log of f - Logon-Sound-Hacks.zip
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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But you cannot toggle NVDA or JAWS on or off at will with a keystroke in Windows 10 like you can with Narrator, which is a great convenience. And Narrator comes up immediately with the Control-Windows key-Enter command. There is no delay like there is with NVDA or JAWS. And it can be closed with this same keystroke,unlike JAWS and NVDA, which require multiple keystrokes to close. And there are times when when neither JAWS nor NVDA will speak due to some technical glitch, but because Narrator is built into the operating system, it will almost always work. So setting it so that it can be used to only announce log on and log off is not a good idea, in my humble opinion. Sorry if I came on too strongly in my previous message.
Gerald
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On 1/8/2020 12:23 PM, Marty Hutchings wrote: Really Gerald. Can we lay off of the attacks please. It was a suggestion. I personally use NVDA to tell me what is going on when JAWS quits for no reason. I did not know that you could set Narrator to only speak at log on and off.
Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Gerald Levy via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2020 11:07 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
How stupid is that? If JAWS stops speaking for some reason, then you won't be able to toggle on Narrator to troubleshoot the problem.
Gerald
On 1/8/2020 11:49 AM, george b wrote:
Set naraitor to only run at log on and shutdown and it will tell you the log on info and it will say logging off when shutting down and will not speak anywhere els after logging in
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell Sent: January 8, 2020 8:45 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
I have two ways of knowing my laptop has shut down. I can press on the cd player, and if it opens, the laptop is still on. Also, my external speaker makes a sound when the laptop shuts down.
Maria Campbell lucky1inct@gmail.com
All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
On 1/8/2020 11:42 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Or, instead of buying such a device, plug in your iPhone or whatever you have, just make sure you don't use the port which many computers now have and which can charge even with the laptop turned off. If the computer is still on, your phone will start to charge.
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 8:39 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Which is why the only reliable means of determining whether your computer has powered off is to connect a small USB powered cooling fan to one of the USB ports. This is especially useful if your computer has an SSD or internal fan that emits little or no mechanical noise or vibration of its own.
Gerald
On 1/8/2020 11:17 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
And even in Windows 7 I had situations where the shut-down sound played and then one of my sighted employees or my wife said the computer had not powered down because of some message which Jaws didn't read any more. But adding it to Windows 10 as an elevated task as I described in my other email does work well and it's better than nothing.
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 3:38 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Unfortunately, there is no shutdown sound in Windows 10. Hacking the registry to produce logoff or shutdown sounds is a bad idea, no matter what the other "experts" on this list may tell you to the contrary. The bottom line is that hacking the registry can often produce unwanted or unpredictable results. If you want to be sure that your computer has completely powered off after you initiate a shutdown, I suggest purchasing a small USB-powered cooling fan and connecting it to a front or rear panel USB port. When the computer powers off, the fan will stop spinning. Simple as that.
Gerald
On 1/8/2020 1:40 AM, Shankar C wrote:
Hi bill, hope things are well at you. I am using windows 10 1903 with jaws 2020 on my dell laptop. I have downloaded the Shutdown-Logoff-Logon-Sound-Hacks folder and extracted, and added them in the windows Registry. and on the sound events, I also checked the check box which says play sounds. now, I can able to eare only logon sounds. I am unable to eare the sounds for other events such as logoff, shutdown, and restart.
I kindly request you to help me on this.
On 8/3/18, Robert Wright <wrightsiphone@gmail.com> wrote:
I was able to get windows log on and off to show in the registry but exit is still not showing.
character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you! ***
From: Tom Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 3:26 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Thanks Bill.
Tom
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2018 3:59 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Yes, it works.
“System Exit” is the event associated with shutdown.
“Windows logoff” is associated with signing off to log on as a different user.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 9:01 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Hi Bill, I downloaded the file containing the scripts you mentioned and unzipped it. The unzip procedure creates three folders each containing 2 files.
What is the difference between “System Exit” and Windows logoff”?
Have you tried this technique and did it work?
Thanks Tom
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2018 7:19 AM To: JFW Mailing List <jfw@groups.io> Subject: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Hi. I tried to send this message to the JAWS list before, but it hasn't shown up in the last 27 minutes, so I am sending it again, in hopes that it will get through this time.
In case someone cannot find this page on Ehow, I am including the link below that will download the zip file containing the registry edit scripts that will return the logon, logoff and system exit events back to the Sound settings without having to manually edit the registry.
https://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Shutdown-Logof f - Logon-Sound-Hacks.zip
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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I also use NVDA as my backup for JAWS. There are many work-arounds for most issues.
Maria Campbell lucky1inct@gmail.com
All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
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On 1/8/2020 12:23 PM, Marty Hutchings wrote: Really Gerald. Can we lay off of the attacks please. It was a suggestion. I personally use NVDA to tell me what is going on when JAWS quits for no reason. I did not know that you could set Narrator to only speak at log on and off.
Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 -----Original Message----- From: Gerald Levy via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2020 11:07 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
How stupid is that? If JAWS stops speaking for some reason, then you won't be able to toggle on Narrator to troubleshoot the problem.
Gerald
On 1/8/2020 11:49 AM, george b wrote:
Set naraitor to only run at log on and shutdown and it will tell you the log on info and it will say logging off when shutting down and will not speak anywhere els after logging in
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell Sent: January 8, 2020 8:45 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
I have two ways of knowing my laptop has shut down. I can press on the cd player, and if it opens, the laptop is still on. Also, my external speaker makes a sound when the laptop shuts down.
Maria Campbell lucky1inct@gmail.com
All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
On 1/8/2020 11:42 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Or, instead of buying such a device, plug in your iPhone or whatever you have, just make sure you don't use the port which many computers now have and which can charge even with the laptop turned off. If the computer is still on, your phone will start to charge.
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 8:39 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Which is why the only reliable means of determining whether your computer has powered off is to connect a small USB powered cooling fan to one of the USB ports. This is especially useful if your computer has an SSD or internal fan that emits little or no mechanical noise or vibration of its own.
Gerald
On 1/8/2020 11:17 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
And even in Windows 7 I had situations where the shut-down sound played and then one of my sighted employees or my wife said the computer had not powered down because of some message which Jaws didn't read any more. But adding it to Windows 10 as an elevated task as I described in my other email does work well and it's better than nothing.
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 3:38 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Unfortunately, there is no shutdown sound in Windows 10. Hacking the registry to produce logoff or shutdown sounds is a bad idea, no matter what the other "experts" on this list may tell you to the contrary. The bottom line is that hacking the registry can often produce unwanted or unpredictable results. If you want to be sure that your computer has completely powered off after you initiate a shutdown, I suggest purchasing a small USB-powered cooling fan and connecting it to a front or rear panel USB port. When the computer powers off, the fan will stop spinning. Simple as that.
Gerald
On 1/8/2020 1:40 AM, Shankar C wrote:
Hi bill, hope things are well at you. I am using windows 10 1903 with jaws 2020 on my dell laptop. I have downloaded the Shutdown-Logoff-Logon-Sound-Hacks folder and extracted, and added them in the windows Registry. and on the sound events, I also checked the check box which says play sounds. now, I can able to eare only logon sounds. I am unable to eare the sounds for other events such as logoff, shutdown, and restart.
I kindly request you to help me on this.
On 8/3/18, Robert Wright <wrightsiphone@gmail.com> wrote:
I was able to get windows log on and off to show in the registry but exit is still not showing.
character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you! ***
From: Tom Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 3:26 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Thanks Bill.
Tom
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2018 3:59 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Yes, it works.
“System Exit” is the event associated with shutdown.
“Windows logoff” is associated with signing off to log on as a different user.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 9:01 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Hi Bill, I downloaded the file containing the scripts you mentioned and unzipped it. The unzip procedure creates three folders each containing 2 files.
What is the difference between “System Exit” and Windows logoff”?
Have you tried this technique and did it work?
Thanks Tom
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2018 7:19 AM To: JFW Mailing List <jfw@groups.io> Subject: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Hi. I tried to send this message to the JAWS list before, but it hasn't shown up in the last 27 minutes, so I am sending it again, in hopes that it will get through this time.
In case someone cannot find this page on Ehow, I am including the link below that will download the zip file containing the registry edit scripts that will return the logon, logoff and system exit events back to the Sound settings without having to manually edit the registry.
https://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Shutdown-Logof f - Logon-Sound-Hacks.zip
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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|
Really Gerald. Can we lay off of the attacks please. It was a suggestion. I personally use NVDA to tell me what is going on when JAWS quits for no reason. I did not know that you could set Narrator to only speak at log on and off.
Love in Christ Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13
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-----Original Message----- From: Gerald Levy via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2020 11:07 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10 How stupid is that? If JAWS stops speaking for some reason, then you won't be able to toggle on Narrator to troubleshoot the problem. Gerald On 1/8/2020 11:49 AM, george b wrote: Set naraitor to only run at log on and shutdown and it will tell you the log on info and it will say logging off when shutting down and will not speak anywhere els after logging in
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell Sent: January 8, 2020 8:45 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
I have two ways of knowing my laptop has shut down. I can press on the cd player, and if it opens, the laptop is still on. Also, my external speaker makes a sound when the laptop shuts down.
Maria Campbell lucky1inct@gmail.com
All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
On 1/8/2020 11:42 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Or, instead of buying such a device, plug in your iPhone or whatever you have, just make sure you don't use the port which many computers now have and which can charge even with the laptop turned off. If the computer is still on, your phone will start to charge.
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 8:39 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Which is why the only reliable means of determining whether your computer has powered off is to connect a small USB powered cooling fan to one of the USB ports. This is especially useful if your computer has an SSD or internal fan that emits little or no mechanical noise or vibration of its own.
Gerald
On 1/8/2020 11:17 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
And even in Windows 7 I had situations where the shut-down sound played and then one of my sighted employees or my wife said the computer had not powered down because of some message which Jaws didn't read any more. But adding it to Windows 10 as an elevated task as I described in my other email does work well and it's better than nothing.
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 3:38 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Unfortunately, there is no shutdown sound in Windows 10. Hacking the registry to produce logoff or shutdown sounds is a bad idea, no matter what the other "experts" on this list may tell you to the contrary. The bottom line is that hacking the registry can often produce unwanted or unpredictable results. If you want to be sure that your computer has completely powered off after you initiate a shutdown, I suggest purchasing a small USB-powered cooling fan and connecting it to a front or rear panel USB port. When the computer powers off, the fan will stop spinning. Simple as that.
Gerald
On 1/8/2020 1:40 AM, Shankar C wrote:
Hi bill, hope things are well at you. I am using windows 10 1903 with jaws 2020 on my dell laptop. I have downloaded the Shutdown-Logoff-Logon-Sound-Hacks folder and extracted, and added them in the windows Registry. and on the sound events, I also checked the check box which says play sounds. now, I can able to eare only logon sounds. I am unable to eare the sounds for other events such as logoff, shutdown, and restart.
I kindly request you to help me on this.
On 8/3/18, Robert Wright <wrightsiphone@gmail.com> wrote:
I was able to get windows log on and off to show in the registry but exit is still not showing.
character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you! ***
From: Tom Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 3:26 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Thanks Bill.
Tom
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2018 3:59 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Yes, it works.
“System Exit” is the event associated with shutdown.
“Windows logoff” is associated with signing off to log on as a different user.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 9:01 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Hi Bill, I downloaded the file containing the scripts you mentioned and unzipped it. The unzip procedure creates three folders each containing 2 files.
What is the difference between “System Exit” and Windows logoff”?
Have you tried this technique and did it work?
Thanks Tom
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2018 7:19 AM To: JFW Mailing List <jfw@groups.io> Subject: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Hi. I tried to send this message to the JAWS list before, but it hasn't shown up in the last 27 minutes, so I am sending it again, in hopes that it will get through this time.
In case someone cannot find this page on Ehow, I am including the link below that will download the zip file containing the registry edit scripts that will return the logon, logoff and system exit events back to the Sound settings without having to manually edit the registry.
https://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Shutdown-Logof f - Logon-Sound-Hacks.zip
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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|
How stupid is that? If JAWS stops speaking for some reason, then you won't be able to toggle on Narrator to troubleshoot the problem.
Gerald
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On 1/8/2020 11:49 AM, george b wrote: Set naraitor to only run at log on and shutdown and it will tell you the log on info and it will say logging off when shutting down and will not speek anywhere els after logging in
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell Sent: January 8, 2020 8:45 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
I have two ways of knowing my laptop has shut down. I can press on the cd player, and if it opens, the laptop is still on. Also, my external speaker makes a sound when the laptop shuts down.
Maria Campbell lucky1inct@gmail.com
All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
On 1/8/2020 11:42 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Or, instead of buying such a device, plug in your iPhone or whatever you have, just make sure you don't use the port which many computers now have and which can charge even with the laptop turned off. If the computer is still on, your phone will start to charge.
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 8:39 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Which is why the only reliable means of determining whether your computer has powered off is to connect a small USB powered cooling fan to one of the USB ports. This is especially useful if your computer has an SSD or internal fan that emits little or no mechanical noise or vibration of its own.
Gerald
On 1/8/2020 11:17 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
And even in Windows 7 I had situations where the shut-down sound played and then one of my sighted employees or my wife said the computer had not powered down because of some message which Jaws didn't read any more. But adding it to Windows 10 as an elevated task as I described in my other email does work well and it's better than nothing.
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 3:38 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Unfortunately, there is no shutdown sound in Windows 10. Hacking the registry to produce logoff or shutdown sounds is a bad idea, no matter what the other "experts" on this list may tell you to the contrary. The bottom line is that hacking the registry can often produce unwanted or unpredictable results. If you want to be sure that your computer has completely powered off after you initiate a shutdown, I suggest purchasing a small USB-powered cooling fan and connecting it to a front or rear panel USB port. When the computer powers off, the fan will stop spinning. Simple as that.
Gerald
On 1/8/2020 1:40 AM, Shankar C wrote:
Hi bill, hope things are well at you. I am using windows 10 1903 with jaws 2020 on my dell laptop. I have downloaded the Shutdown-Logoff-Logon-Sound-Hacks folder and extracted, and added them in the windows Registry. and on the sound events, I also checked the check box which says play sounds. now, I can able to eare only logon sounds. I am unable to eare the sounds for other events such as logoff, shutdown, and restart.
I kindly request you to help me on this.
On 8/3/18, Robert Wright <wrightsiphone@gmail.com> wrote:
I was able to get windows log on and off to show in the registry but exit is still not showing.
character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you! ***
From: Tom Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 3:26 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Thanks Bill.
Tom
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2018 3:59 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Yes, it works.
“System Exit” is the event associated with shutdown.
“Windows logoff” is associated with signing off to log on as a different user.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 9:01 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Hi Bill, I downloaded the file containing the scripts you mentioned and unzipped it. The unzip procedure creates three folders each containing 2 files.
What is the difference between “System Exit” and Windows logoff”?
Have you tried this technique and did it work?
Thanks Tom
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2018 7:19 AM To: JFW Mailing List <jfw@groups.io> Subject: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Hi. I tried to send this message to the JAWS list before, but it hasn't shown up in the last 27 minutes, so I am sending it again, in hopes that it will get through this time.
In case someone cannot find this page on Ehow, I am including the link below that will download the zip file containing the registry edit scripts that will return the logon, logoff and system exit events back to the Sound settings without having to manually edit the registry.
https://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Shutdown-Logof f - Logon-Sound-Hacks.zip
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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Set naraitor to only run at log on and shutdown and it will tell you the log on info and it will say logging off when shutting down and will not speek anywhere els after logging in
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-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell Sent: January 8, 2020 8:45 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10 I have two ways of knowing my laptop has shut down. I can press on the cd player, and if it opens, the laptop is still on. Also, my external speaker makes a sound when the laptop shuts down. Maria Campbell lucky1inct@gmail.com All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing. On 1/8/2020 11:42 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Or, instead of buying such a device, plug in your iPhone or whatever you have, just make sure you don't use the port which many computers now have and which can charge even with the laptop turned off. If the computer is still on, your phone will start to charge.
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 8:39 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Which is why the only reliable means of determining whether your computer has powered off is to connect a small USB powered cooling fan to one of the USB ports. This is especially useful if your computer has an SSD or internal fan that emits little or no mechanical noise or vibration of its own.
Gerald
On 1/8/2020 11:17 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
And even in Windows 7 I had situations where the shut-down sound played and then one of my sighted employees or my wife said the computer had not powered down because of some message which Jaws didn't read any more. But adding it to Windows 10 as an elevated task as I described in my other email does work well and it's better than nothing.
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 3:38 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Unfortunately, there is no shutdown sound in Windows 10. Hacking the registry to produce logoff or shutdown sounds is a bad idea, no matter what the other "experts" on this list may tell you to the contrary. The bottom line is that hacking the registry can often produce unwanted or unpredictable results. If you want to be sure that your computer has completely powered off after you initiate a shutdown, I suggest purchasing a small USB-powered cooling fan and connecting it to a front or rear panel USB port. When the computer powers off, the fan will stop spinning. Simple as that.
Gerald
On 1/8/2020 1:40 AM, Shankar C wrote:
Hi bill, hope things are well at you. I am using windows 10 1903 with jaws 2020 on my dell laptop. I have downloaded the Shutdown-Logoff-Logon-Sound-Hacks folder and extracted, and added them in the windows Registry. and on the sound events, I also checked the check box which says play sounds. now, I can able to eare only logon sounds. I am unable to eare the sounds for other events such as logoff, shutdown, and restart.
I kindly request you to help me on this.
On 8/3/18, Robert Wright <wrightsiphone@gmail.com> wrote:
I was able to get windows log on and off to show in the registry but exit is still not showing.
character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you! ***
From: Tom Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 3:26 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Thanks Bill.
Tom
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2018 3:59 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Yes, it works.
“System Exit” is the event associated with shutdown.
“Windows logoff” is associated with signing off to log on as a different user.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 9:01 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Hi Bill, I downloaded the file containing the scripts you mentioned and unzipped it. The unzip procedure creates three folders each containing 2 files.
What is the difference between “System Exit” and Windows logoff”?
Have you tried this technique and did it work?
Thanks Tom
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2018 7:19 AM To: JFW Mailing List <jfw@groups.io> Subject: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Hi. I tried to send this message to the JAWS list before, but it hasn't shown up in the last 27 minutes, so I am sending it again, in hopes that it will get through this time.
In case someone cannot find this page on Ehow, I am including the link below that will download the zip file containing the registry edit scripts that will return the logon, logoff and system exit events back to the Sound settings without having to manually edit the registry.
https://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Shutdown-Logof f - Logon-Sound-Hacks.zip
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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I have two ways of knowing my laptop has shut down. I can press on the cd player, and if it opens, the laptop is still on. Also, my external speaker makes a sound when the laptop shuts down.
Maria Campbell lucky1inct@gmail.com
All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
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On 1/8/2020 11:42 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Or, instead of buying such a device, plug in your iPhone or whatever you have, just make sure you don't use the port which many computers now have and which can charge even with the laptop turned off. If the computer is still on, your phone will start to charge.
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 8:39 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Which is why the only reliable means of determining whether your computer has powered off is to connect a small USB powered cooling fan to one of the USB ports. This is especially useful if your computer has an SSD or internal fan that emits little or no mechanical noise or vibration of its own.
Gerald
On 1/8/2020 11:17 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
And even in Windows 7 I had situations where the shut-down sound played and then one of my sighted employees or my wife said the computer had not powered down because of some message which Jaws didn't read any more. But adding it to Windows 10 as an elevated task as I described in my other email does work well and it's better than nothing.
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 3:38 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Unfortunately, there is no shutdown sound in Windows 10. Hacking the registry to produce logoff or shutdown sounds is a bad idea, no matter what the other "experts" on this list may tell you to the contrary. The bottom line is that hacking the registry can often produce unwanted or unpredictable results. If you want to be sure that your computer has completely powered off after you initiate a shutdown, I suggest purchasing a small USB-powered cooling fan and connecting it to a front or rear panel USB port. When the computer powers off, the fan will stop spinning. Simple as that.
Gerald
On 1/8/2020 1:40 AM, Shankar C wrote:
Hi bill, hope things are well at you. I am using windows 10 1903 with jaws 2020 on my dell laptop. I have downloaded the Shutdown-Logoff-Logon-Sound-Hacks folder and extracted, and added them in the windows Registry. and on the sound events, I also checked the check box which says play sounds. now, I can able to eare only logon sounds. I am unable to eare the sounds for other events such as logoff, shutdown, and restart.
I kindly request you to help me on this.
On 8/3/18, Robert Wright <wrightsiphone@gmail.com> wrote:
I was able to get windows log on and off to show in the registry but exit is still not showing.
character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you! ***
From: Tom Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 3:26 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Thanks Bill.
Tom
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2018 3:59 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Yes, it works.
“System Exit” is the event associated with shutdown.
“Windows logoff” is associated with signing off to log on as a different user.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 9:01 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Hi Bill, I downloaded the file containing the scripts you mentioned and unzipped it. The unzip procedure creates three folders each containing 2 files.
What is the difference between “System Exit” and Windows logoff”?
Have you tried this technique and did it work?
Thanks Tom
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2018 7:19 AM To: JFW Mailing List <jfw@groups.io> Subject: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Hi. I tried to send this message to the JAWS list before, but it hasn't shown up in the last 27 minutes, so I am sending it again, in hopes that it will get through this time.
In case someone cannot find this page on Ehow, I am including the link below that will download the zip file containing the registry edit scripts that will return the logon, logoff and system exit events back to the Sound settings without having to manually edit the registry.
https://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Shutdown-Logoff - Logon-Sound-Hacks.zip
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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Or, instead of buying such a device, plug in your iPhone or whatever you have, just make sure you don't use the port which many computers now have and which can charge even with the laptop turned off. If the computer is still on, your phone will start to charge.
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-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 8:39 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10 Which is why the only reliable means of determining whether your computer has powered off is to connect a small USB powered cooling fan to one of the USB ports. This is especially useful if your computer has an SSD or internal fan that emits little or no mechanical noise or vibration of its own. Gerald On 1/8/2020 11:17 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: And even in Windows 7 I had situations where the shut-down sound played and then one of my sighted employees or my wife said the computer had not powered down because of some message which Jaws didn't read any more. But adding it to Windows 10 as an elevated task as I described in my other email does work well and it's better than nothing.
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 3:38 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Unfortunately, there is no shutdown sound in Windows 10. Hacking the registry to produce logoff or shutdown sounds is a bad idea, no matter what the other "experts" on this list may tell you to the contrary. The bottom line is that hacking the registry can often produce unwanted or unpredictable results. If you want to be sure that your computer has completely powered off after you initiate a shutdown, I suggest purchasing a small USB-powered cooling fan and connecting it to a front or rear panel USB port. When the computer powers off, the fan will stop spinning. Simple as that.
Gerald
On 1/8/2020 1:40 AM, Shankar C wrote:
Hi bill, hope things are well at you. I am using windows 10 1903 with jaws 2020 on my dell laptop. I have downloaded the Shutdown-Logoff-Logon-Sound-Hacks folder and extracted, and added them in the windows Registry. and on the sound events, I also checked the check box which says play sounds. now, I can able to eare only logon sounds. I am unable to eare the sounds for other events such as logoff, shutdown, and restart.
I kindly request you to help me on this.
On 8/3/18, Robert Wright <wrightsiphone@gmail.com> wrote:
I was able to get windows log on and off to show in the registry but exit is still not showing.
character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you! ***
From: Tom Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 3:26 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Thanks Bill.
Tom
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2018 3:59 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Yes, it works.
“System Exit” is the event associated with shutdown.
“Windows logoff” is associated with signing off to log on as a different user.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 9:01 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Hi Bill, I downloaded the file containing the scripts you mentioned and unzipped it. The unzip procedure creates three folders each containing 2 files.
What is the difference between “System Exit” and Windows logoff”?
Have you tried this technique and did it work?
Thanks Tom
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2018 7:19 AM To: JFW Mailing List <jfw@groups.io> Subject: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Hi. I tried to send this message to the JAWS list before, but it hasn't shown up in the last 27 minutes, so I am sending it again, in hopes that it will get through this time.
In case someone cannot find this page on Ehow, I am including the link below that will download the zip file containing the registry edit scripts that will return the logon, logoff and system exit events back to the Sound settings without having to manually edit the registry.
https://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Shutdown-Logoff - Logon-Sound-Hacks.zip
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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|
Which is why the only reliable means of determining whether your computer has powered off is to connect a small USB powered cooling fan to one of the USB ports. This is especially useful if your computer has an SSD or internal fan that emits little or no mechanical noise or vibration of its own.
Gerald
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On 1/8/2020 11:17 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: And even in Windows 7 I had situations where the shut-down sound played and then one of my sighted employees or my wife said the computer had not powered down because of some message which Jaws didn't read any more. But adding it to Windows 10 as an elevated task as I described in my other email does work well and it's better than nothing.
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 3:38 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Unfortunately, there is no shutdown sound in Windows 10. Hacking the registry to produce logoff or shutdown sounds is a bad idea, no matter what the other "experts" on this list may tell you to the contrary. The bottom line is that hacking the registry can often produce unwanted or unpredictable results. If you want to be sure that your computer has completely powered off after you initiate a shutdown, I suggest purchasing a small USB-powered cooling fan and connecting it to a front or rear panel USB port. When the computer powers off, the fan will stop spinning. Simple as that.
Gerald
On 1/8/2020 1:40 AM, Shankar C wrote:
Hi bill, hope things are well at you. I am using windows 10 1903 with jaws 2020 on my dell laptop. I have downloaded the Shutdown-Logoff-Logon-Sound-Hacks folder and extracted, and added them in the windows Registry. and on the sound events, I also checked the check box which says play sounds. now, I can able to eare only logon sounds. I am unable to eare the sounds for other events such as logoff, shutdown, and restart.
I kindly request you to help me on this.
On 8/3/18, Robert Wright <wrightsiphone@gmail.com> wrote:
I was able to get windows log on and off to show in the registry but exit is still not showing.
character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you! ***
From: Tom Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 3:26 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Thanks Bill.
Tom
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2018 3:59 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Yes, it works.
“System Exit” is the event associated with shutdown.
“Windows logoff” is associated with signing off to log on as a different user.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 9:01 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Hi Bill, I downloaded the file containing the scripts you mentioned and unzipped it. The unzip procedure creates three folders each containing 2 files.
What is the difference between “System Exit” and Windows logoff”?
Have you tried this technique and did it work?
Thanks Tom
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2018 7:19 AM To: JFW Mailing List <jfw@groups.io> Subject: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Hi. I tried to send this message to the JAWS list before, but it hasn't shown up in the last 27 minutes, so I am sending it again, in hopes that it will get through this time.
In case someone cannot find this page on Ehow, I am including the link below that will download the zip file containing the registry edit scripts that will return the logon, logoff and system exit events back to the Sound settings without having to manually edit the registry.
https://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Shutdown-Logoff- Logon-Sound-Hacks.zip
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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|
And even in Windows 7 I had situations where the shut-down sound played and then one of my sighted employees or my wife said the computer had not powered down because of some message which Jaws didn't read any more. But adding it to Windows 10 as an elevated task as I described in my other email does work well and it's better than nothing.
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-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 3:38 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10 Unfortunately, there is no shutdown sound in Windows 10. Hacking the registry to produce logoff or shutdown sounds is a bad idea, no matter what the other "experts" on this list may tell you to the contrary. The bottom line is that hacking the registry can often produce unwanted or unpredictable results. If you want to be sure that your computer has completely powered off after you initiate a shutdown, I suggest purchasing a small USB-powered cooling fan and connecting it to a front or rear panel USB port. When the computer powers off, the fan will stop spinning. Simple as that. Gerald On 1/8/2020 1:40 AM, Shankar C wrote: Hi bill, hope things are well at you. I am using windows 10 1903 with jaws 2020 on my dell laptop. I have downloaded the Shutdown-Logoff-Logon-Sound-Hacks folder and extracted, and added them in the windows Registry. and on the sound events, I also checked the check box which says play sounds. now, I can able to eare only logon sounds. I am unable to eare the sounds for other events such as logoff, shutdown, and restart.
I kindly request you to help me on this.
On 8/3/18, Robert Wright <wrightsiphone@gmail.com> wrote:
I was able to get windows log on and off to show in the registry but exit is still not showing.
character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you! ***
From: Tom Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 3:26 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Thanks Bill.
Tom
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2018 3:59 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Yes, it works.
“System Exit” is the event associated with shutdown.
“Windows logoff” is associated with signing off to log on as a different user.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 9:01 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Hi Bill, I downloaded the file containing the scripts you mentioned and unzipped it. The unzip procedure creates three folders each containing 2 files.
What is the difference between “System Exit” and Windows logoff”?
Have you tried this technique and did it work?
Thanks Tom
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2018 7:19 AM To: JFW Mailing List <jfw@groups.io> Subject: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Hi. I tried to send this message to the JAWS list before, but it hasn't shown up in the last 27 minutes, so I am sending it again, in hopes that it will get through this time.
In case someone cannot find this page on Ehow, I am including the link below that will download the zip file containing the registry edit scripts that will return the logon, logoff and system exit events back to the Sound settings without having to manually edit the registry.
https://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Shutdown-Logoff- Logon-Sound-Hacks.zip
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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I am not sure why Jaws should have a Windows shut-down event sound.
Enabling the Windows shut-down sound is certainly possible, I used the method Brian Vogel posted on the Windows 10 list before and I pasted the steps below.
Note that your issue may simply be the fact that you have fast startup enabled, the Windows shut-down sound will not work or at best work unreliably if fast startup is enabled.
Play Sound at Shutdown in Windows 10
Starting in Windows 8, the Windows Shutdown sound event has been disabled. This leaves you unable to change or play the Windows Shutdown sound when a user selects to shut down the PC in Windows 10. As a workaround,
you can still create an elevated task to play a sound at shutdown Windows 10.
This tutorial will show you how to play a sound at shutdown for all users in Windows 10.
You must be signed in as an administrator to create an elevated task. Here's How:
1. Press the Win+R keys to open Run, type taskschd.msc into Run, and click/tap on OK to open Task Scheduler.
2. Click/tap on Task Scheduler Library in the left pane of Task Scheduler, and click/tap on Create Task in the right Actions pane.
3. In the General tab, type a name (ex: "Play shutdown sound") you want for this task.
4. In the General tab, select Run whether user is logged on or not.
5. In the General tab, check the Run with highest privileges box.
6. In the General tab, select Windows 10 in the Configure for drop down.
7. Click/tap on the Triggers tab, and click/tap on the New button.
8. Perform the actions below:
A) Select "On an event" in the Begin the task drop down.
B) Select "System" in the Log drop down.
C) Type "1074" (user initiated shutdown) in the Event ID drop down, and click/tap on OK.
9. Click/tap on the Actions tab, and click/tap on the New button.
10. Perform the actions below:
A) Select Start a program in the Action drop down.
B) Type "PowerShell" in the Program/script field box.
C) Enter the command below into the Add arguments field box, and click/tap on OK.
-c (New-Object Media.SoundPlayer 'C:\Windows\Media\Windows Shutdown.wav').PlaySync();
Note: If you wanted to play a sound (.wav file) of your choice instead, you can substitute C:\Windows\Media\Windows Shutdown.wav in the command above with the full path of the .wav file you want to be played.
11. Click/tap on the Conditions tab, uncheck the "Start the task only if the computer is on AC power" and click/tap on OK.
12. You will be prompted to enter your account's password, do so and click/tap on OK.
The "Play Shutdown Sound" task is now finished, and will now play a sound when the PC is shutdown.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 7:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
I suggest you bring this idea directly to Eric Damery's attention. You could contact Vispero to get his email address.
Gerald
On 1/8/2020 10:35 AM, Peter Tesar wrote:
Hi,
Probably the easiest change would be to get Jaws to add a closing sound like NVDA has.
At least it would give some indication that the shutdown was in progress.
Perhaps Jaws could wait to shutdown itself after a dialogue box is on screen warning that shutting down might cause you to loos data in the program still open.
Peter T.
On 1/8/2020 6:38 AM, Gerald Levy via Groups.Io wrote:
Unfortunately, there is no shutdown sound in Windows 10. Hacking the registry to produce logoff or shutdown sounds is a bad idea, no matter what the other "experts" on this list may tell you to the contrary. The bottom line is that hacking the registry can
often produce unwanted or unpredictable results. If you want to be sure that your computer has completely powered off after you initiate a shutdown, I suggest purchasing a small USB-powered cooling fan and connecting it to a front or rear panel USB port.
When the computer powers off, the fan will stop spinning. Simple as that.
Gerald
On 1/8/2020 1:40 AM, Shankar C wrote:
Hi bill, hope things are well at you.
I am using windows 10 1903 with jaws 2020 on my dell laptop.
I have downloaded the Shutdown-Logoff-Logon-Sound-Hacks folder and
extracted, and added them in the windows Registry.
and on the sound events, I also checked the check box which says play sounds.
now, I can able to eare only logon sounds.
I am unable to eare the sounds for other events such as logoff,
shutdown, and restart.
I kindly request you to help me on this.
On 8/3/18, Robert Wright <wrightsiphone@...> wrote:
I was able to get windows log on and off to show in the registry but exit is
still not showing.
character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for
you! ***
From: Tom
Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 3:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Thanks Bill.
Tom
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill
White
Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2018 3:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Yes, it works.
“System Exit” is the event associated with shutdown.
“Windows logoff” is associated with signing off to log on as a different
user.
Bill White
billwhite92701@...
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 9:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Hi Bill,
I downloaded the file containing the scripts you mentioned and unzipped it.
The unzip procedure creates three folders each containing 2 files.
What is the difference between “System Exit” and Windows logoff”?
Have you tried this technique and did it work?
Thanks
Tom
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill
White
Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2018 7:19 AM
To: JFW Mailing List <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Hi. I tried to send this message to the JAWS list before, but it hasn't
shown up in the last 27 minutes, so I am sending it again, in hopes that it
will
get through this time.
In case someone cannot find this page on Ehow, I am including the link below
that will download the zip file containing the registry edit scripts that
will return the logon, logoff and system exit events back to the Sound
settings without having to manually edit the registry.
https://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Shutdown-Logoff-Logon-Sound-Hacks.zip
Bill White
billwhite92701@...
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I suggest you bring this idea directly to Eric Damery's
attention. You could contact Vispero to get his email address.
Gerald
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On 1/8/2020 10:35 AM, Peter Tesar
wrote:
Hi,
Probably the easiest change would be to
get Jaws to add a closing sound like NVDA has.
At least it would give some indication
that the shutdown was in progress.
Perhaps Jaws could wait to shutdown itself
after a dialogue box is on screen warning that shutting down
might cause you to loos data in the program still open.
Peter T.
On 1/8/2020 6:38 AM, Gerald Levy via
Groups.Io wrote:
Unfortunately, there is no shutdown sound in Windows 10.
Hacking the registry to produce logoff or shutdown sounds is a
bad idea, no matter what the other "experts" on this list may
tell you to the contrary. The bottom line is that hacking the
registry can often produce unwanted or unpredictable results.
If you want to be sure that your computer has completely powered
off after you initiate a shutdown, I suggest purchasing a small
USB-powered cooling fan and connecting it to a front or rear
panel USB port. When the computer powers off, the fan will stop
spinning. Simple as that.
Gerald
On 1/8/2020 1:40 AM, Shankar C wrote:
Hi bill, hope things are well at you.
I am using windows 10 1903 with jaws 2020 on my dell laptop.
I have downloaded the Shutdown-Logoff-Logon-Sound-Hacks folder
and
extracted, and added them in the windows Registry.
and on the sound events, I also checked the check box which
says play sounds.
now, I can able to eare only logon sounds.
I am unable to eare the sounds for other events such as
logoff,
shutdown, and restart.
I kindly request you to help me on this.
On 8/3/18, Robert Wright <wrightsiphone@...>
wrote:
I was able to get windows log on and
off to show in the registry but exit is
still not showing.
character is found in how you treat people who cannot do
anything for
you! ***
From: Tom
Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 3:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Thanks Bill.
Tom
From: main@jfw.groups.io
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Bill
White
Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2018 3:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Yes, it works.
“System Exit” is the event associated with shutdown.
“Windows logoff” is associated with signing off to log on as
a different
user.
Bill White
billwhite92701@...
From: main@jfw.groups.io
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 9:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Hi Bill,
I downloaded the file containing the scripts you mentioned
and unzipped it.
The unzip procedure creates three folders each containing 2
files.
What is the difference between “System Exit” and Windows
logoff”?
Have you tried this technique and did it work?
Thanks
Tom
From: main@jfw.groups.io
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Bill
White
Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2018 7:19 AM
To: JFW Mailing List <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Hi. I tried to send this message to the JAWS list before,
but it hasn't
shown up in the last 27 minutes, so I am sending it again,
in hopes that it
will
get through this time.
In case someone cannot find this page on Ehow, I am
including the link below
that will download the zip file containing the registry edit
scripts that
will return the logon, logoff and system exit events back to
the Sound
settings without having to manually edit the registry.
https://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Shutdown-Logoff-Logon-Sound-Hacks.zip
Bill White
billwhite92701@...
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Hi,
Probably the easiest change would be to get
Jaws to add a closing sound like NVDA has.
At least it would give some indication that
the shutdown was in progress.
Perhaps Jaws could wait to shutdown itself
after a dialogue box is on screen warning that shutting down
might cause you to loos data in the program still open.
Peter T.
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
On 1/8/2020 6:38 AM, Gerald Levy via
Groups.Io wrote:
Unfortunately, there is no shutdown sound in Windows 10. Hacking
the registry to produce logoff or shutdown sounds is a bad idea,
no matter what the other "experts" on this list may tell you to
the contrary. The bottom line is that hacking the registry can
often produce unwanted or unpredictable results. If you want to
be sure that your computer has completely powered off after you
initiate a shutdown, I suggest purchasing a small USB-powered
cooling fan and connecting it to a front or rear panel USB port.
When the computer powers off, the fan will stop spinning. Simple
as that.
Gerald
On 1/8/2020 1:40 AM, Shankar C wrote:
Hi bill, hope things are well at you.
I am using windows 10 1903 with jaws 2020 on my dell laptop.
I have downloaded the Shutdown-Logoff-Logon-Sound-Hacks folder
and
extracted, and added them in the windows Registry.
and on the sound events, I also checked the check box which says
play sounds.
now, I can able to eare only logon sounds.
I am unable to eare the sounds for other events such as logoff,
shutdown, and restart.
I kindly request you to help me on this.
On 8/3/18, Robert Wright <wrightsiphone@...> wrote:
I was able to get windows log on and off
to show in the registry but exit is
still not showing.
character is found in how you treat people who cannot do
anything for
you! ***
From: Tom
Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 3:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Thanks Bill.
Tom
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Bill
White
Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2018 3:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Yes, it works.
“System Exit” is the event associated with shutdown.
“Windows logoff” is associated with signing off to log on as a
different
user.
Bill White
billwhite92701@...
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Tom
Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 9:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Hi Bill,
I downloaded the file containing the scripts you mentioned
and unzipped it.
The unzip procedure creates three folders each containing 2
files.
What is the difference between “System Exit” and Windows
logoff”?
Have you tried this technique and did it work?
Thanks
Tom
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Bill
White
Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2018 7:19 AM
To: JFW Mailing List <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Hi. I tried to send this message to the JAWS list before, but
it hasn't
shown up in the last 27 minutes, so I am sending it again, in
hopes that it
will
get through this time.
In case someone cannot find this page on Ehow, I am including
the link below
that will download the zip file containing the registry edit
scripts that
will return the logon, logoff and system exit events back to
the Sound
settings without having to manually edit the registry.
https://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Shutdown-Logoff-Logon-Sound-Hacks.zip
Bill White
billwhite92701@...
|
|
Unfortunately, there is no shutdown sound in Windows 10. Hacking the registry to produce logoff or shutdown sounds is a bad idea, no matter what the other "experts" on this list may tell you to the contrary. The bottom line is that hacking the registry can often produce unwanted or unpredictable results. If you want to be sure that your computer has completely powered off after you initiate a shutdown, I suggest purchasing a small USB-powered cooling fan and connecting it to a front or rear panel USB port. When the computer powers off, the fan will stop spinning. Simple as that.
Gerald
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On 1/8/2020 1:40 AM, Shankar C wrote: Hi bill, hope things are well at you. I am using windows 10 1903 with jaws 2020 on my dell laptop. I have downloaded the Shutdown-Logoff-Logon-Sound-Hacks folder and extracted, and added them in the windows Registry. and on the sound events, I also checked the check box which says play sounds. now, I can able to eare only logon sounds. I am unable to eare the sounds for other events such as logoff, shutdown, and restart.
I kindly request you to help me on this.
On 8/3/18, Robert Wright <wrightsiphone@gmail.com> wrote:
I was able to get windows log on and off to show in the registry but exit is still not showing.
character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you! ***
From: Tom Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 3:26 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Thanks Bill.
Tom
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2018 3:59 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Yes, it works.
“System Exit” is the event associated with shutdown.
“Windows logoff” is associated with signing off to log on as a different user.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 9:01 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Hi Bill, I downloaded the file containing the scripts you mentioned and unzipped it. The unzip procedure creates three folders each containing 2 files.
What is the difference between “System Exit” and Windows logoff”?
Have you tried this technique and did it work?
Thanks Tom
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2018 7:19 AM To: JFW Mailing List <jfw@groups.io> Subject: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Hi. I tried to send this message to the JAWS list before, but it hasn't shown up in the last 27 minutes, so I am sending it again, in hopes that it will get through this time.
In case someone cannot find this page on Ehow, I am including the link below that will download the zip file containing the registry edit scripts that will return the logon, logoff and system exit events back to the Sound settings without having to manually edit the registry.
https://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Shutdown-Logoff-Logon-Sound-Hacks.zip
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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Hi bill, hope things are well at you. I am using windows 10 1903 with jaws 2020 on my dell laptop. I have downloaded the Shutdown-Logoff-Logon-Sound-Hacks folder and extracted, and added them in the windows Registry. and on the sound events, I also checked the check box which says play sounds. now, I can able to eare only logon sounds. I am unable to eare the sounds for other events such as logoff, shutdown, and restart.
I kindly request you to help me on this.
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
On 8/3/18, Robert Wright <wrightsiphone@gmail.com> wrote: I was able to get windows log on and off to show in the registry but exit is still not showing.
character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you! ***
From: Tom Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 3:26 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Thanks Bill.
Tom
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2018 3:59 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Yes, it works.
“System Exit” is the event associated with shutdown.
“Windows logoff” is associated with signing off to log on as a different user.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 9:01 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Hi Bill, I downloaded the file containing the scripts you mentioned and unzipped it. The unzip procedure creates three folders each containing 2 files.
What is the difference between “System Exit” and Windows logoff”?
Have you tried this technique and did it work?
Thanks Tom
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2018 7:19 AM To: JFW Mailing List <jfw@groups.io> Subject: Logon, logoff and shutdown sound for Windows 10
Hi. I tried to send this message to the JAWS list before, but it hasn't shown up in the last 27 minutes, so I am sending it again, in hopes that it will get through this time.
In case someone cannot find this page on Ehow, I am including the link below that will download the zip file containing the registry edit scripts that will return the logon, logoff and system exit events back to the Sound settings without having to manually edit the registry.
https://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Shutdown-Logoff-Logon-Sound-Hacks.zip
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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