jaws scripts for itunes?


Curt Taubert
 

Is there jaws scripts for itunes? This new version of itunes is harder for me that the one I had.
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Michal Nowicki <mnowicki4@...>
 

Yes, BlindTunes.

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Subject: jaws scripts for itunes?

Is there jaws scripts for itunes? This new version of itunes is harder for
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HAMILTON
 

First, how does one obtain this script?

Second, is there a cost involved? And, is this the same version that has been available, for several years, at a cost of about $350 US?

Thanks.



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Yes, BlindTunes.

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Dave...
 

www.doitblind.com

Not free, but pretty reasonable.

Dave Carlson
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
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Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 06:47 AM
Subject: Re: jaws scripts for itunes?


First, how does one obtain this script?

Second, is there a cost involved? And, is this the same version that has
been available, for several years, at a cost of about $350 US?

Thanks.



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Yes, BlindTunes.

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Subject: jaws scripts for itunes?

Is there jaws scripts for itunes? This new version of itunes is harder
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Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

Smack me hard and call me stupid but how much is this?
I just read the site and I couldn't find it.

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Subject: Re: jaws scripts for itunes?

www.doitblind.com

Not free, but pretty reasonable.

Dave Carlson
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Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 06:47 AM
Subject: Re: jaws scripts for itunes?


First, how does one obtain this script?

Second, is there a cost involved? And, is this the same version that has
been available, for several years, at a cost of about $350 US?

Thanks.



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Yes, BlindTunes.

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Subject: jaws scripts for itunes?

Is there jaws scripts for itunes? This new version of itunes is harder
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Dave...
 

Not sure at this point. You need to click on the product of interest,
perhaps?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Cc: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 08:13 AM
Subject: RE: jaws scripts for itunes?


Smack me hard and call me stupid but how much is this?
I just read the site and I couldn't find it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
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Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 7:51 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@...>
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Subject: Re: jaws scripts for itunes?

www.doitblind.com

Not free, but pretty reasonable.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

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From: "Jim Hamilton via Jfw" <jfw@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Cc: "Jim Hamilton" <jim.hamilton@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 06:47 AM
Subject: Re: jaws scripts for itunes?


First, how does one obtain this script?

Second, is there a cost involved? And, is this the same version that has
been available, for several years, at a cost of about $350 US?

Thanks.



Sent from Jim's iPhone


On Jul 26, 2015, at 3:12 PM, Michal Nowicki via Jfw
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Yes, BlindTunes.

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Subject: jaws scripts for itunes?

Is there jaws scripts for itunes? This new version of itunes is harder
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Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

I was reading aboot the jaws scripts for itunes.
I think it was 9.99?

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Subject: Re: jaws scripts for itunes?

Not sure at this point. You need to click on the product of interest,
perhaps?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

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From: "Kimsan via Jfw" <jfw@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Cc: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 08:13 AM
Subject: RE: jaws scripts for itunes?


Smack me hard and call me stupid but how much is this?
I just read the site and I couldn't find it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 7:51 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@...>
Cc: Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@...>
Subject: Re: jaws scripts for itunes?

www.doitblind.com

Not free, but pretty reasonable.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Hamilton via Jfw" <jfw@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Cc: "Jim Hamilton" <jim.hamilton@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 06:47 AM
Subject: Re: jaws scripts for itunes?


First, how does one obtain this script?

Second, is there a cost involved? And, is this the same version that has
been available, for several years, at a cost of about $350 US?

Thanks.



Sent from Jim's iPhone


On Jul 26, 2015, at 3:12 PM, Michal Nowicki via Jfw
<jfw@...> wrote:

Yes, BlindTunes.

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Subject: jaws scripts for itunes?

Is there jaws scripts for itunes? This new version of itunes is harder
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Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

Ok, I was 4cents over, it's 9.95.
I'm going to purchase it.
I became a huge fan of itunes in the past week.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 8:43 AM
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Subject: Re: jaws scripts for itunes?

Not sure at this point. You need to click on the product of interest,
perhaps?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kimsan via Jfw" <jfw@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Cc: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 08:13 AM
Subject: RE: jaws scripts for itunes?


Smack me hard and call me stupid but how much is this?
I just read the site and I couldn't find it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
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Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 7:51 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@...>
Cc: Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@...>
Subject: Re: jaws scripts for itunes?

www.doitblind.com

Not free, but pretty reasonable.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Hamilton via Jfw" <jfw@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Cc: "Jim Hamilton" <jim.hamilton@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 06:47 AM
Subject: Re: jaws scripts for itunes?


First, how does one obtain this script?

Second, is there a cost involved? And, is this the same version that has
been available, for several years, at a cost of about $350 US?

Thanks.



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On Jul 26, 2015, at 3:12 PM, Michal Nowicki via Jfw
<jfw@...> wrote:

Yes, BlindTunes.

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Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2015 12:00 PM
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Subject: jaws scripts for itunes?

Is there jaws scripts for itunes? This new version of itunes is harder
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Dave...
 

Don't think so. Latest version of BlindTunes is 5.3.4.

Dave Carlson
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Cc: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 08:55 AM
Subject: RE: jaws scripts for itunes?


I was reading aboot the jaws scripts for itunes.
I think it was 9.99?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
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Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 8:43 AM
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Subject: Re: jaws scripts for itunes?

Not sure at this point. You need to click on the product of interest,
perhaps?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kimsan via Jfw" <jfw@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Cc: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 08:13 AM
Subject: RE: jaws scripts for itunes?


Smack me hard and call me stupid but how much is this?
I just read the site and I couldn't find it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
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Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 7:51 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@...>
Cc: Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@...>
Subject: Re: jaws scripts for itunes?

www.doitblind.com

Not free, but pretty reasonable.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Cc: "Jim Hamilton" <jim.hamilton@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 06:47 AM
Subject: Re: jaws scripts for itunes?


First, how does one obtain this script?

Second, is there a cost involved? And, is this the same version that has
been available, for several years, at a cost of about $350 US?

Thanks.



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Yes, BlindTunes.

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Subject: jaws scripts for itunes?

Is there jaws scripts for itunes? This new version of itunes is harder
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Dave...
 

Kimsan,

Okay, I understand now that you're talking price, and not version.

Dave Carlson
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Cc: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 09:24 AM
Subject: RE: jaws scripts for itunes?


Ok, I was 4cents over, it's 9.95.
I'm going to purchase it.
I became a huge fan of itunes in the past week.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 8:43 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@...>
Cc: Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@...>
Subject: Re: jaws scripts for itunes?

Not sure at this point. You need to click on the product of interest,
perhaps?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kimsan via Jfw" <jfw@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Cc: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 08:13 AM
Subject: RE: jaws scripts for itunes?


Smack me hard and call me stupid but how much is this?
I just read the site and I couldn't find it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 7:51 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@...>
Cc: Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@...>
Subject: Re: jaws scripts for itunes?

www.doitblind.com

Not free, but pretty reasonable.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Hamilton via Jfw" <jfw@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Cc: "Jim Hamilton" <jim.hamilton@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 06:47 AM
Subject: Re: jaws scripts for itunes?


First, how does one obtain this script?

Second, is there a cost involved? And, is this the same version that has
been available, for several years, at a cost of about $350 US?

Thanks.



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Yes, BlindTunes.

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: jaws scripts for itunes?

Is there jaws scripts for itunes? This new version of itunes is harder
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