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Scanners., and open book


roydubriel@...
 

To the subscriber to this list and is struggling whether to buy three,two or one unit,read what I just wrote: I have Openbook 9.I also have the Perl camera. Open book and the camera will cost you about $1,500,if not more.At the convention you will save some money on the Pearl and Open book if bought as a package next wee,. If you wish better info,please phone:FreedomScientific .If one of you recall their phone number,please post it so that whoever wishes to buy Open book or the Pearl can phone FreedomScientific .

roy Dubriel
Roy Dubriel

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 5:32 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Re: Scanners.

OK - another wrung on this ladder to educate me.
With Pearl, could we scan photographs on it too?

Thanks.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry Ford.

Carolyn

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From: "Russell Solowoniuk via Jfw" <jfw@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Cc: "Russell Solowoniuk" <rsolowoniuk@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: Scanners.


Hi,

If you are going with OpenBook, you might want to consider the Pearl. It’s a camera on a stand, and in conjunction with OpenBook, works really well. It takes a picture of the page and sends it to OpenBook for the OCR. Within seconds of taking the picture you will hear the page being read to you. I’m not sure what it sells for now… when I bought mine 5 years ago the Pearl camera was $650… I already owned OpenBook. I think FS has a combo price if you buy both together, but it’s still quite expensive.

HTH

Russell
On Jun 25, 2015, at 2:18 PM, Michal Nowicki via Jfw <jfw@...> wrote:

Carolyn,

I am by no means an expert on scanners, but whatever you get, you need to
understand that scanning requires both hardware (the scanner) and software
(a computer program that makes use of the scanner). OpenBook is not a
scanner. Instead, it is scanning and OCR software that works with many
scanners.

If I understand your post correctly, you are considering purchasing an
all-in-one printer, fax, and scanner. While such products work great for
sighted individuals, I'm not sure how many of them, if any, can be operated
nonvisually. For example, I know that some all-in-one devices have an
inaccessible touch screen, and it is not possible to control them from a
computer. That said, it may be better for you to buy two or three pieces of
equipment if, of course, you can afford it. I also recommend scanners with
an automatic feeder.

I hope this helps, and I'm sorry I cannot provide specific advice (e.g.
with regards to device models).

Michal

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 2:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Scanners.

When I get my new computer at the end of the year or beginning of next, I
intend to get a printer with fax and scanning capability.

So, I'm wondering, as a totally blind user of JAWS, is there a special
scanner I have to get for it to be accessible? Are some scanners out there
more accessible than others?

What is Open Book? I have heard of it. Would I be limited to getting that or
something like that?

Thanks.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry Ford.

Carolyn
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Dave Carlson
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Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 05:58 PM
Subject: Re: Scanners., and open book


To the subscriber to this list and is struggling whether to buy three,two or
one unit,read what I just wrote: I have Openbook 9.I also have the Perl
camera. Open book and the camera will cost you about $1,500,if not more.At
the convention you will save some money on the Pearl and Open book if bought
as a package next wee,. If you wish better info,please
phone:FreedomScientific .If one of you recall their phone number,please
post it so that whoever wishes to buy Open book or the Pearl can phone
FreedomScientific .

roy Dubriel
Roy Dubriel
-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 5:32 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Re: Scanners.

OK - another wrung on this ladder to educate me.
With Pearl, could we scan photographs on it too?

Thanks.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry Ford.

Carolyn

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From: "Russell Solowoniuk via Jfw" <jfw@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Cc: "Russell Solowoniuk" <rsolowoniuk@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: Scanners.


Hi,

If you are going with OpenBook, you might want to consider the Pearl. It’s
a camera on a stand, and in conjunction with OpenBook, works really well.
It takes a picture of the page and sends it to OpenBook for the OCR.
Within seconds of taking the picture you will hear the page being read to
you. I’m not sure what it sells for now… when I bought mine 5 years ago
the Pearl camera was $650… I already owned OpenBook. I think FS has a
combo price if you buy both together, but it’s still quite expensive.

HTH

Russell
On Jun 25, 2015, at 2:18 PM, Michal Nowicki via Jfw
<jfw@...> wrote:

Carolyn,

I am by no means an expert on scanners, but whatever you get, you need to
understand that scanning requires both hardware (the scanner) and
software
(a computer program that makes use of the scanner). OpenBook is not a
scanner. Instead, it is scanning and OCR software that works with many
scanners.

If I understand your post correctly, you are considering purchasing an
all-in-one printer, fax, and scanner. While such products work great for
sighted individuals, I'm not sure how many of them, if any, can be
operated
nonvisually. For example, I know that some all-in-one devices have an
inaccessible touch screen, and it is not possible to control them from a
computer. That said, it may be better for you to buy two or three pieces
of
equipment if, of course, you can afford it. I also recommend scanners
with
an automatic feeder.

I hope this helps, and I'm sorry I cannot provide specific advice (e.g.
with regards to device models).

Michal

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 2:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Scanners.

When I get my new computer at the end of the year or beginning of next, I
intend to get a printer with fax and scanning capability.

So, I'm wondering, as a totally blind user of JAWS, is there a special
scanner I have to get for it to be accessible? Are some scanners out
there
more accessible than others?

What is Open Book? I have heard of it. Would I be limited to getting that
or
something like that?

Thanks.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry
Ford.

Carolyn
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Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Thank you; I do have their phone number.

What is the advantage to getting them as opposed to whatever else is out there?

Thank you.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry Ford.

Carolyn

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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Cc: <roydubriel@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: Scanners., and open book


To the subscriber to this list and is struggling whether to buy three,two or one unit,read what I just wrote: I have Openbook 9.I also have the Perl camera. Open book and the camera will cost you about $1,500,if not more.At the convention you will save some money on the Pearl and Open book if bought as a package next wee,. If you wish better info,please phone:FreedomScientific .If one of you recall their phone number,please post it so that whoever wishes to buy Open book or the Pearl can phone FreedomScientific .

roy Dubriel
Roy Dubriel
-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 5:32 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Re: Scanners.

OK - another wrung on this ladder to educate me.
With Pearl, could we scan photographs on it too?

Thanks.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry Ford.

Carolyn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Russell Solowoniuk via Jfw" <jfw@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Cc: "Russell Solowoniuk" <rsolowoniuk@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: Scanners.


Hi,

If you are going with OpenBook, you might want to consider the Pearl. It’s a camera on a stand, and in conjunction with OpenBook, works really well. It takes a picture of the page and sends it to OpenBook for the OCR. Within seconds of taking the picture you will hear the page being read to you. I’m not sure what it sells for now… when I bought mine 5 years ago the Pearl camera was $650… I already owned OpenBook. I think FS has a combo price if you buy both together, but it’s still quite expensive.

HTH

Russell
On Jun 25, 2015, at 2:18 PM, Michal Nowicki via Jfw <jfw@...> wrote:

Carolyn,

I am by no means an expert on scanners, but whatever you get, you need to
understand that scanning requires both hardware (the scanner) and software
(a computer program that makes use of the scanner). OpenBook is not a
scanner. Instead, it is scanning and OCR software that works with many
scanners.

If I understand your post correctly, you are considering purchasing an
all-in-one printer, fax, and scanner. While such products work great for
sighted individuals, I'm not sure how many of them, if any, can be operated
nonvisually. For example, I know that some all-in-one devices have an
inaccessible touch screen, and it is not possible to control them from a
computer. That said, it may be better for you to buy two or three pieces of
equipment if, of course, you can afford it. I also recommend scanners with
an automatic feeder.

I hope this helps, and I'm sorry I cannot provide specific advice (e.g.
with regards to device models).

Michal

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 2:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Scanners.

When I get my new computer at the end of the year or beginning of next, I
intend to get a printer with fax and scanning capability.

So, I'm wondering, as a totally blind user of JAWS, is there a special
scanner I have to get for it to be accessible? Are some scanners out there
more accessible than others?

What is Open Book? I have heard of it. Would I be limited to getting that or
something like that?

Thanks.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry Ford.

Carolyn
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Dave...
 

Carolyn,

Heed my earlier post. The Pearl camera is designed to work with Openbook,
and Openbook only. You cannot get it to work with other software
applications to scan in photos, etc. I recommend you stick to a mainstream
scanner, whether a standalone flatbed or the one Adrian recommends or a
3-in-1 unit. If a 3-in-1 I would steer toward Epson.

I have a standalone flatbed scanner Epson GT2500, which is a pretty large
workhorse scanner, and a Pearl camera for Openbook.

The one advantage to the Pearl is that I can pack it up and carry with my
laptop to meetings and scan in place any document handouts. Maybe Adrian's
scanner can do the same -- he could comment on portability.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carolyn Arnold via Jfw" <jfw@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Cc: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 06:39 PM
Subject: Re: Scanners., and open book


Thank you; I do have their phone number.

What is the advantage to getting them as opposed to whatever else is out
there?

Thank you.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry Ford.

Carolyn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Roy Dubriel via Jfw" <jfw@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Cc: <roydubriel@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: Scanners., and open book


To the subscriber to this list and is struggling whether to buy three,two
or one unit,read what I just wrote: I have Openbook 9.I also have the
Perl camera. Open book and the camera will cost you about $1,500,if not
more.At the convention you will save some money on the Pearl and Open book
if bought as a package next wee,. If you wish better info,please
phone:FreedomScientific .If one of you recall their phone number,please
post it so that whoever wishes to buy Open book or the Pearl can phone
FreedomScientific .

roy Dubriel
Roy Dubriel
-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 5:32 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Re: Scanners.

OK - another wrung on this ladder to educate me.
With Pearl, could we scan photographs on it too?

Thanks.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry
Ford.

Carolyn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Russell Solowoniuk via Jfw" <jfw@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Cc: "Russell Solowoniuk" <rsolowoniuk@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: Scanners.


Hi,

If you are going with OpenBook, you might want to consider the Pearl. It’s
a camera on a stand, and in conjunction with OpenBook, works really well.
It takes a picture of the page and sends it to OpenBook for the OCR.
Within seconds of taking the picture you will hear the page being read to
you. I’m not sure what it sells for now… when I bought mine 5 years ago
the Pearl camera was $650… I already owned OpenBook. I think FS has a
combo price if you buy both together, but it’s still quite expensive.

HTH

Russell
On Jun 25, 2015, at 2:18 PM, Michal Nowicki via Jfw
<jfw@...> wrote:

Carolyn,

I am by no means an expert on scanners, but whatever you get, you need
to
understand that scanning requires both hardware (the scanner) and
software
(a computer program that makes use of the scanner). OpenBook is not a
scanner. Instead, it is scanning and OCR software that works with many
scanners.

If I understand your post correctly, you are considering purchasing an
all-in-one printer, fax, and scanner. While such products work great
for
sighted individuals, I'm not sure how many of them, if any, can be
operated
nonvisually. For example, I know that some all-in-one devices have an
inaccessible touch screen, and it is not possible to control them from a
computer. That said, it may be better for you to buy two or three
pieces of
equipment if, of course, you can afford it. I also recommend scanners
with
an automatic feeder.

I hope this helps, and I'm sorry I cannot provide specific advice (e.g.
with regards to device models).

Michal

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 2:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Scanners.

When I get my new computer at the end of the year or beginning of next,
I
intend to get a printer with fax and scanning capability.

So, I'm wondering, as a totally blind user of JAWS, is there a special
scanner I have to get for it to be accessible? Are some scanners out
there
more accessible than others?

What is Open Book? I have heard of it. Would I be limited to getting
that or
something like that?

Thanks.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry
Ford.

Carolyn
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Adrian Spratt
 

the Hovercam would be a little awkward to carry around. It connects to my PC via a USB port, and all communication is done through my PC keyboard.

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Carolyn,

Heed my earlier post. The Pearl camera is designed to work with Openbook,
and Openbook only. You cannot get it to work with other software
applications to scan in photos, etc. I recommend you stick to a mainstream
scanner, whether a standalone flatbed or the one Adrian recommends or a
3-in-1 unit. If a 3-in-1 I would steer toward Epson.

I have a standalone flatbed scanner Epson GT2500, which is a pretty large
workhorse scanner, and a Pearl camera for Openbook.

The one advantage to the Pearl is that I can pack it up and carry with my
laptop to meetings and scan in place any document handouts. Maybe Adrian's
scanner can do the same -- he could comment on portability.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

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From: "Carolyn Arnold via Jfw" <jfw@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Cc: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 06:39 PM
Subject: Re: Scanners., and open book


Thank you; I do have their phone number.

What is the advantage to getting them as opposed to whatever else is out
there?

Thank you.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry Ford.

Carolyn

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From: "Roy Dubriel via Jfw" <jfw@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Cc: <roydubriel@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: Scanners., and open book


To the subscriber to this list and is struggling whether to buy three,two
or one unit,read what I just wrote: I have Openbook 9.I also have the
Perl camera. Open book and the camera will cost you about $1,500,if not
more.At the convention you will save some money on the Pearl and Open book
if bought as a package next wee,. If you wish better info,please
phone:FreedomScientific .If one of you recall their phone number,please
post it so that whoever wishes to buy Open book or the Pearl can phone
FreedomScientific .

roy Dubriel
Roy Dubriel
-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 5:32 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Re: Scanners.

OK - another wrung on this ladder to educate me.
With Pearl, could we scan photographs on it too?

Thanks.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry
Ford.

Carolyn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Russell Solowoniuk via Jfw" <jfw@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Cc: "Russell Solowoniuk" <rsolowoniuk@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: Scanners.


Hi,

If you are going with OpenBook, you might want to consider the Pearl. It’s
a camera on a stand, and in conjunction with OpenBook, works really well.
It takes a picture of the page and sends it to OpenBook for the OCR.
Within seconds of taking the picture you will hear the page being read to
you. I’m not sure what it sells for now… when I bought mine 5 years ago
the Pearl camera was $650… I already owned OpenBook. I think FS has a
combo price if you buy both together, but it’s still quite expensive.

HTH

Russell
On Jun 25, 2015, at 2:18 PM, Michal Nowicki via Jfw
<jfw@...> wrote:

Carolyn,

I am by no means an expert on scanners, but whatever you get, you need
to
understand that scanning requires both hardware (the scanner) and
software
(a computer program that makes use of the scanner). OpenBook is not a
scanner. Instead, it is scanning and OCR software that works with many
scanners.

If I understand your post correctly, you are considering purchasing an
all-in-one printer, fax, and scanner. While such products work great
for
sighted individuals, I'm not sure how many of them, if any, can be
operated
nonvisually. For example, I know that some all-in-one devices have an
inaccessible touch screen, and it is not possible to control them from a
computer. That said, it may be better for you to buy two or three
pieces of
equipment if, of course, you can afford it. I also recommend scanners
with
an automatic feeder.

I hope this helps, and I'm sorry I cannot provide specific advice (e.g.
with regards to device models).

Michal

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Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 2:49 PM
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Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Scanners.

When I get my new computer at the end of the year or beginning of next,
I
intend to get a printer with fax and scanning capability.

So, I'm wondering, as a totally blind user of JAWS, is there a special
scanner I have to get for it to be accessible? Are some scanners out
there
more accessible than others?

What is Open Book? I have heard of it. Would I be limited to getting
that or
something like that?

Thanks.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry
Ford.

Carolyn
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Dave...
 

Adrian,

Okay, thanks for that clarification. As you have described it otherwise, it
appears to be compatible to work with mainstream scanning software, which
would make it superior to the Pearl camera in terms of flexibility.

Also since it is a "click" type scanner rather than a moving light bar, it's
very fast to capture the page image, like the Pearl camera, is that correct?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

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Subject: RE: Scanners., and open book


the Hovercam would be a little awkward to carry around. It connects to my PC
via a USB port, and all communication is done through my PC keyboard.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 9:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Dave Carlson
Subject: Re: Scanners., and open book

Carolyn,

Heed my earlier post. The Pearl camera is designed to work with Openbook,
and Openbook only. You cannot get it to work with other software
applications to scan in photos, etc. I recommend you stick to a mainstream
scanner, whether a standalone flatbed or the one Adrian recommends or a
3-in-1 unit. If a 3-in-1 I would steer toward Epson.

I have a standalone flatbed scanner Epson GT2500, which is a pretty large
workhorse scanner, and a Pearl camera for Openbook.

The one advantage to the Pearl is that I can pack it up and carry with my
laptop to meetings and scan in place any document handouts. Maybe Adrian's
scanner can do the same -- he could comment on portability.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carolyn Arnold via Jfw" <jfw@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Cc: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 06:39 PM
Subject: Re: Scanners., and open book


Thank you; I do have their phone number.

What is the advantage to getting them as opposed to whatever else is out
there?

Thank you.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry Ford.

Carolyn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Roy Dubriel via Jfw" <jfw@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Cc: <roydubriel@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: Scanners., and open book


To the subscriber to this list and is struggling whether to buy three,two
or one unit,read what I just wrote: I have Openbook 9.I also have the
Perl camera. Open book and the camera will cost you about $1,500,if not
more.At the convention you will save some money on the Pearl and Open book
if bought as a package next wee,. If you wish better info,please
phone:FreedomScientific .If one of you recall their phone number,please
post it so that whoever wishes to buy Open book or the Pearl can phone
FreedomScientific .

roy Dubriel
Roy Dubriel
-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 5:32 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Re: Scanners.

OK - another wrung on this ladder to educate me.
With Pearl, could we scan photographs on it too?

Thanks.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry
Ford.

Carolyn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Russell Solowoniuk via Jfw" <jfw@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Cc: "Russell Solowoniuk" <rsolowoniuk@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: Scanners.


Hi,

If you are going with OpenBook, you might want to consider the Pearl. It’s
a camera on a stand, and in conjunction with OpenBook, works really well.
It takes a picture of the page and sends it to OpenBook for the OCR.
Within seconds of taking the picture you will hear the page being read to
you. I’m not sure what it sells for now… when I bought mine 5 years ago
the Pearl camera was $650… I already owned OpenBook. I think FS has a
combo price if you buy both together, but it’s still quite expensive.

HTH

Russell
On Jun 25, 2015, at 2:18 PM, Michal Nowicki via Jfw
<jfw@...> wrote:

Carolyn,

I am by no means an expert on scanners, but whatever you get, you need
to
understand that scanning requires both hardware (the scanner) and
software
(a computer program that makes use of the scanner). OpenBook is not a
scanner. Instead, it is scanning and OCR software that works with many
scanners.

If I understand your post correctly, you are considering purchasing an
all-in-one printer, fax, and scanner. While such products work great
for
sighted individuals, I'm not sure how many of them, if any, can be
operated
nonvisually. For example, I know that some all-in-one devices have an
inaccessible touch screen, and it is not possible to control them from a
computer. That said, it may be better for you to buy two or three
pieces of
equipment if, of course, you can afford it. I also recommend scanners
with
an automatic feeder.

I hope this helps, and I'm sorry I cannot provide specific advice (e.g.
with regards to device models).

Michal

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 2:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Scanners.

When I get my new computer at the end of the year or beginning of next,
I
intend to get a printer with fax and scanning capability.

So, I'm wondering, as a totally blind user of JAWS, is there a special
scanner I have to get for it to be accessible? Are some scanners out
there
more accessible than others?

What is Open Book? I have heard of it. Would I be limited to getting
that or
something like that?

Thanks.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry
Ford.

Carolyn
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Adrian Spratt
 

Dave,

Yes to your first question. As to your second, I plead ignorance, but I suspect your guess is correct. When I have a page ready to go under the Hovercam hardware, I press "y" on my keyboard, and almost instantaneously I'm asked if I want to scan another page or stop. The scan of that page is complete.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 11:17 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Dave Carlson
Subject: Re: Scanners., and open book

Adrian,

Okay, thanks for that clarification. As you have described it otherwise, it
appears to be compatible to work with mainstream scanning software, which
would make it superior to the Pearl camera in terms of flexibility.

Also since it is a "click" type scanner rather than a moving light bar, it's
very fast to capture the page image, like the Pearl camera, is that correct?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

----- Original Message -----
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Cc: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 08:11 PM
Subject: RE: Scanners., and open book


the Hovercam would be a little awkward to carry around. It connects to my PC
via a USB port, and all communication is done through my PC keyboard.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 9:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Dave Carlson
Subject: Re: Scanners., and open book

Carolyn,

Heed my earlier post. The Pearl camera is designed to work with Openbook,
and Openbook only. You cannot get it to work with other software
applications to scan in photos, etc. I recommend you stick to a mainstream
scanner, whether a standalone flatbed or the one Adrian recommends or a
3-in-1 unit. If a 3-in-1 I would steer toward Epson.

I have a standalone flatbed scanner Epson GT2500, which is a pretty large
workhorse scanner, and a Pearl camera for Openbook.

The one advantage to the Pearl is that I can pack it up and carry with my
laptop to meetings and scan in place any document handouts. Maybe Adrian's
scanner can do the same -- he could comment on portability.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carolyn Arnold via Jfw" <jfw@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Cc: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 06:39 PM
Subject: Re: Scanners., and open book


Thank you; I do have their phone number.

What is the advantage to getting them as opposed to whatever else is out
there?

Thank you.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry Ford.

Carolyn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Roy Dubriel via Jfw" <jfw@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Cc: <roydubriel@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: Scanners., and open book


To the subscriber to this list and is struggling whether to buy three,two
or one unit,read what I just wrote: I have Openbook 9.I also have the
Perl camera. Open book and the camera will cost you about $1,500,if not
more.At the convention you will save some money on the Pearl and Open book
if bought as a package next wee,. If you wish better info,please
phone:FreedomScientific .If one of you recall their phone number,please
post it so that whoever wishes to buy Open book or the Pearl can phone
FreedomScientific .

roy Dubriel
Roy Dubriel
-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 5:32 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Re: Scanners.

OK - another wrung on this ladder to educate me.
With Pearl, could we scan photographs on it too?

Thanks.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry
Ford.

Carolyn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Russell Solowoniuk via Jfw" <jfw@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Cc: "Russell Solowoniuk" <rsolowoniuk@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: Scanners.


Hi,

If you are going with OpenBook, you might want to consider the Pearl. It’s
a camera on a stand, and in conjunction with OpenBook, works really well.
It takes a picture of the page and sends it to OpenBook for the OCR.
Within seconds of taking the picture you will hear the page being read to
you. I’m not sure what it sells for now… when I bought mine 5 years ago
the Pearl camera was $650… I already owned OpenBook. I think FS has a
combo price if you buy both together, but it’s still quite expensive.

HTH

Russell
On Jun 25, 2015, at 2:18 PM, Michal Nowicki via Jfw
<jfw@...> wrote:

Carolyn,

I am by no means an expert on scanners, but whatever you get, you need
to
understand that scanning requires both hardware (the scanner) and
software
(a computer program that makes use of the scanner). OpenBook is not a
scanner. Instead, it is scanning and OCR software that works with many
scanners.

If I understand your post correctly, you are considering purchasing an
all-in-one printer, fax, and scanner. While such products work great
for
sighted individuals, I'm not sure how many of them, if any, can be
operated
nonvisually. For example, I know that some all-in-one devices have an
inaccessible touch screen, and it is not possible to control them from a
computer. That said, it may be better for you to buy two or three
pieces of
equipment if, of course, you can afford it. I also recommend scanners
with
an automatic feeder.

I hope this helps, and I'm sorry I cannot provide specific advice (e.g.
with regards to device models).

Michal

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 2:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Scanners.

When I get my new computer at the end of the year or beginning of next,
I
intend to get a printer with fax and scanning capability.

So, I'm wondering, as a totally blind user of JAWS, is there a special
scanner I have to get for it to be accessible? Are some scanners out
there
more accessible than others?

What is Open Book? I have heard of it. Would I be limited to getting
that or
something like that?

Thanks.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry
Ford.

Carolyn
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Londa Peterson
 

For me the advantages are speed and accuracy. I had used nothing but mainstream off-the-shelf scanning solutions for years, but then I started having serious problems with them. The biggest problem is that Omnipage would really mess up the columns no matter how I set it to handle them. It would give me a section from one column and then a section from the other one. I was forever cutting and pasting to get my documents in the right order. Also, if I put two pages across the scanner, it would cut off the second column of the second page. This happened even though the pages fit on the scanner. After much frustration and searching the Internet for solutions, I turned to blindness specific products. I decided that it just shouldn't be this hard. I can't do pictures with the Pearl, but we have an all-in-one machine for that. A decent all-in-one is not that expensive, so maybe you could do both. I know others have had better luck with off-the-shelf scanning software, so I'm sure there will be plenty of help if you decide to go that way. I just got tired of the frustrations and variations in accessibility and said "Enough's enough." At this point I'd have to have a really compelling reason to return to off-the-shelf software for my own personal use. I don't have that at this point, so I won't risk the frustration anymore. It's just not worth it to me. I'd rather spend my time getting the work done.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 9:40 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Re: Scanners., and open book

Thank you; I do have their phone number.

What is the advantage to getting them as opposed to whatever else is out
there?

Thank you.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry Ford.

Carolyn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Roy Dubriel via Jfw" <jfw@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Cc: <roydubriel@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: Scanners., and open book


To the subscriber to this list and is struggling whether to buy three,two
or one unit,read what I just wrote: I have Openbook 9.I also have the
Perl camera. Open book and the camera will cost you about $1,500,if not
more.At the convention you will save some money on the Pearl and Open book
if bought as a package next wee,. If you wish better info,please
phone:FreedomScientific .If one of you recall their phone number,please
post it so that whoever wishes to buy Open book or the Pearl can phone
FreedomScientific .

roy Dubriel
Roy Dubriel
-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 5:32 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Re: Scanners.

OK - another wrung on this ladder to educate me.
With Pearl, could we scan photographs on it too?

Thanks.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry
Ford.

Carolyn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Russell Solowoniuk via Jfw" <jfw@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Cc: "Russell Solowoniuk" <rsolowoniuk@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: Scanners.


Hi,

If you are going with OpenBook, you might want to consider the Pearl. It’s
a camera on a stand, and in conjunction with OpenBook, works really well.
It takes a picture of the page and sends it to OpenBook for the OCR.
Within seconds of taking the picture you will hear the page being read to
you. I’m not sure what it sells for now… when I bought mine 5 years ago
the Pearl camera was $650… I already owned OpenBook. I think FS has a
combo price if you buy both together, but it’s still quite expensive.

HTH

Russell
On Jun 25, 2015, at 2:18 PM, Michal Nowicki via Jfw
<jfw@...> wrote:

Carolyn,

I am by no means an expert on scanners, but whatever you get, you need
to
understand that scanning requires both hardware (the scanner) and
software
(a computer program that makes use of the scanner). OpenBook is not a
scanner. Instead, it is scanning and OCR software that works with many
scanners.

If I understand your post correctly, you are considering purchasing an
all-in-one printer, fax, and scanner. While such products work great
for
sighted individuals, I'm not sure how many of them, if any, can be
operated
nonvisually. For example, I know that some all-in-one devices have an
inaccessible touch screen, and it is not possible to control them from a
computer. That said, it may be better for you to buy two or three
pieces of
equipment if, of course, you can afford it. I also recommend scanners
with
an automatic feeder.

I hope this helps, and I'm sorry I cannot provide specific advice (e.g.
with regards to device models).

Michal

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 2:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Scanners.

When I get my new computer at the end of the year or beginning of next,
I
intend to get a printer with fax and scanning capability.

So, I'm wondering, as a totally blind user of JAWS, is there a special
scanner I have to get for it to be accessible? Are some scanners out
there
more accessible than others?

What is Open Book? I have heard of it. Would I be limited to getting
that or
something like that?

Thanks.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry
Ford.

Carolyn
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Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Dave, since I am getting a desktop and will not be using the computer otherwise, I lean toward the Epson, if it can work for me. I plan to invest heavily in a computer, want to get the biggest one that I can, try to get ten years out of the thing. I know that sounds far fetched these days, but I'll try, and you know, I think I can!

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry Ford.

Carolyn

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Cc: "Dave Carlson" <dgcarlson@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 9:49 PM
Subject: Re: Scanners., and open book


Carolyn,

Heed my earlier post. The Pearl camera is designed to work with Openbook,
and Openbook only. You cannot get it to work with other software
applications to scan in photos, etc. I recommend you stick to a mainstream
scanner, whether a standalone flatbed or the one Adrian recommends or a
3-in-1 unit. If a 3-in-1 I would steer toward Epson.

I have a standalone flatbed scanner Epson GT2500, which is a pretty large
workhorse scanner, and a Pearl camera for Openbook.

The one advantage to the Pearl is that I can pack it up and carry with my
laptop to meetings and scan in place any document handouts. Maybe Adrian's
scanner can do the same -- he could comment on portability.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carolyn Arnold via Jfw" <jfw@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Cc: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 06:39 PM
Subject: Re: Scanners., and open book


Thank you; I do have their phone number.

What is the advantage to getting them as opposed to whatever else is out
there?

Thank you.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry Ford.

Carolyn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Roy Dubriel via Jfw" <jfw@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Cc: <roydubriel@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: Scanners., and open book


To the subscriber to this list and is struggling whether to buy three,two
or one unit,read what I just wrote: I have Openbook 9.I also have the
Perl camera. Open book and the camera will cost you about $1,500,if not
more.At the convention you will save some money on the Pearl and Open book
if bought as a package next wee,. If you wish better info,please
phone:FreedomScientific .If one of you recall their phone number,please
post it so that whoever wishes to buy Open book or the Pearl can phone
FreedomScientific .

roy Dubriel
Roy Dubriel
-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 5:32 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Re: Scanners.

OK - another wrung on this ladder to educate me.
With Pearl, could we scan photographs on it too?

Thanks.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry
Ford.

Carolyn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Russell Solowoniuk via Jfw" <jfw@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Cc: "Russell Solowoniuk" <rsolowoniuk@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: Scanners.


Hi,

If you are going with OpenBook, you might want to consider the Pearl. It’s
a camera on a stand, and in conjunction with OpenBook, works really well.
It takes a picture of the page and sends it to OpenBook for the OCR.
Within seconds of taking the picture you will hear the page being read to
you. I’m not sure what it sells for now… when I bought mine 5 years ago
the Pearl camera was $650… I already owned OpenBook. I think FS has a
combo price if you buy both together, but it’s still quite expensive.

HTH

Russell
On Jun 25, 2015, at 2:18 PM, Michal Nowicki via Jfw
<jfw@...> wrote:

Carolyn,

I am by no means an expert on scanners, but whatever you get, you need
to
understand that scanning requires both hardware (the scanner) and
software
(a computer program that makes use of the scanner). OpenBook is not a
scanner. Instead, it is scanning and OCR software that works with many
scanners.

If I understand your post correctly, you are considering purchasing an
all-in-one printer, fax, and scanner. While such products work great
for
sighted individuals, I'm not sure how many of them, if any, can be
operated
nonvisually. For example, I know that some all-in-one devices have an
inaccessible touch screen, and it is not possible to control them from a
computer. That said, it may be better for you to buy two or three
pieces of
equipment if, of course, you can afford it. I also recommend scanners
with
an automatic feeder.

I hope this helps, and I'm sorry I cannot provide specific advice (e.g.
with regards to device models).

Michal

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 2:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Scanners.

When I get my new computer at the end of the year or beginning of next,
I
intend to get a printer with fax and scanning capability.

So, I'm wondering, as a totally blind user of JAWS, is there a special
scanner I have to get for it to be accessible? Are some scanners out
there
more accessible than others?

What is Open Book? I have heard of it. Would I be limited to getting
that or
something like that?

Thanks.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry
Ford.

Carolyn
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where can the Hovercam be bought from?

----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Spratt via Jfw" <jfw@...> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Cc: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 08:11 PM Subject: RE: Scanners., and open book the Hovercam would be a little awkward to carry around. It connects to my PC via a USB port, and all communication is done through my PC keyboard. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson via Jfw Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 9:49 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Dave Carlson Subject: Re: Scanners., and open book Carolyn, Heed my earlier post. The Pearl camera is designed to work with Openbook, and Openbook only. You cannot get it to work with other software applications to scan in photos, etc. I recommend you stick to a mainstream scanner, whether a standalone flatbed or the one Adrian recommends or a 3-in-1 unit. If a 3-in-1 I would steer toward Epson. I have a standalone flatbed scanner Epson GT2500, which is a pretty large workhorse scanner, and a Pearl camera for Openbook. The one advantage to the Pearl is that I can pack it up and carry with my laptop to meetings and scan in place any document handouts. Maybe Adrian's scanner can do the same -- he could comment on portability. Dave Carlson Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer ----- Original Message -----
From: "Carolyn Arnold via Jfw" <jfw@...> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Cc: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@...> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 06:39 PM Subject: Re: Scanners., and open book Thank you; I do have their phone number. What is the advantage to getting them as opposed to whatever else is out there? Thank you. "Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry Ford. Carolyn ----- Original Message -----
From: "Roy Dubriel via Jfw" <jfw@...> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Cc: <roydubriel@...> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 8:58 PM Subject: Re: Scanners., and open book
To the subscriber to this list and is struggling whether to buy three,two
or one unit,read what I just wrote: I have Openbook 9.I also have the
Perl camera. Open book and the camera will cost you about $1,500,if not
more.At the convention you will save some money on the Pearl and Open book
if bought as a package next wee,. If you wish better info,please
phone:FreedomScientific .If one of you recall their phone number,please
post it so that whoever wishes to buy Open book or the Pearl can phone
FreedomScientific .

roy Dubriel
Roy Dubriel
-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 5:32 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Re: Scanners.

OK - another wrung on this ladder to educate me.
With Pearl, could we scan photographs on it too?

Thanks.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry
Ford.

Carolyn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Russell Solowoniuk via Jfw" <jfw@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Cc: "Russell Solowoniuk" <rsolowoniuk@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: Scanners.


Hi,

If you are going with OpenBook, you might want to consider the Pearl. It’s
a camera on a stand, and in conjunction with OpenBook, works really well.
It takes a picture of the page and sends it to OpenBook for the OCR.
Within seconds of taking the picture you will hear the page being read to
you. I’m not sure what it sells for now… when I bought mine 5 years ago
the Pearl camera was $650… I already owned OpenBook. I think FS has a
combo price if you buy both together, but it’s still quite expensive.

HTH

Russell
On Jun 25, 2015, at 2:18 PM, Michal Nowicki via Jfw
<jfw@...> wrote:

Carolyn,

I am by no means an expert on scanners, but whatever you get, you need
to
understand that scanning requires both hardware (the scanner) and
software
(a computer program that makes use of the scanner). OpenBook is not a
scanner. Instead, it is scanning and OCR software that works with many
scanners.

If I understand your post correctly, you are considering purchasing an
all-in-one printer, fax, and scanner. While such products work great
for
sighted individuals, I'm not sure how many of them, if any, can be
operated
nonvisually. For example, I know that some all-in-one devices have an
inaccessible touch screen, and it is not possible to control them from a
computer. That said, it may be better for you to buy two or three
pieces of
equipment if, of course, you can afford it. I also recommend scanners
with
an automatic feeder.

I hope this helps, and I'm sorry I cannot provide specific advice (e.g.
with regards to device models).

Michal

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 2:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Scanners.

When I get my new computer at the end of the year or beginning of next,
I
intend to get a printer with fax and scanning capability.

So, I'm wondering, as a totally blind user of JAWS, is there a special
scanner I have to get for it to be accessible? Are some scanners out
there
more accessible than others?

What is Open Book? I have heard of it. Would I be limited to getting
that or
something like that?

Thanks.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry
Ford.

Carolyn
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