Movies for the blind


John Chan <aznboyz4sho@...>
 

Where cn i find movies fo the blind?Sent from my iPhone


Michael Babcock <empoweringtheblind@...>
 

It depends on what type you want to watch, for example a lot of mainstream movies nowadays actually have described video services available as alternative languages on the language mangoes on DVD and Blu-ray discs. The describe video services option can also be found and set up. For example a movie I watched yesterday, bad grandpa on Blu-ray had described video available on it.

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And my wife and I just purchased that movie from Walmart, no special place.

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Onwardbob
 

You can download a large selection from
https://www.blindmicemegamall.com/bmm/shop/Home
You can sign up for free...enjoy!

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG

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Samnet

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Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS) <Tim.Ford@...>
 

There is a free web site where you can download any of several thousand audio described movies and TV shows. It is just the audio track, but of course that is fine unless your purpose is to also have the video, in which case the suggestions below about DVD movies apply.

When you click on the link below, which is to the Blind Mice movie vault, you will need to first register, which is free, and needs only an email address and password. The link is:
http://www.blindmicemegamall.com

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Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 12:58 PM
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Subject: Re: Movies for the blind

It depends on what type you want to watch, for example a lot of mainstream movies nowadays actually have described video services available as alternative languages on the language mangoes on DVD and Blu-ray discs. The describe video services option can also be found and set up. For example a movie I watched yesterday, bad grandpa on Blu-ray had described video available on it.

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Richard Holloway
 

This site (below) tracks current releases of DVD’s with Audio Description as well as TV schedules for many described programs on TV and helps to explain how to access the alternative audio on these broadcasts:
http://www.acb.org/adp/ad.html

This site (also below) tracks movies in theaters showing with Audio Description and various captioning options. As the name would imply, their original focus was apparently for hearing impaired individuals, so you will need to be certain to select the “Descriptive Video” filter, or you’ll get a mixture of results with both DVS and for the hearing impaired (some movies have both at once). The hearing impaired solutions vary from headphones that make things louder, to open captions which all sighted guests can see, to rear displayed captions where sighted moviegoers can put a mirror into a cup holder and read the captions from the back wall (they are shown in reverse and the mirror fixes that.) As a general rule, Regal theaters offers the vast majority of their films with DVS— probably more than 90%:
http://www.captionfish.com

The big shift at Regal happened when they went all-digital. Since movies all come over the internet, there is no hassle with sending along the DVS. AMC used (may still use) an older system where they have to send a CD or DVD with the DVS and any captioning on it, and then they have to load the right disk with the movie, and it was rarely offered and then hardly ever worked correctly. This was back when most theaters still showed actual films. I had assumed AMC would be the first to use the digital DVS system, but so far, I am only aware of the strong DVS offering by Regal and a few of their affiliated companies.

If you are new to this, briefly, for DVD’s you select an alternative language in the setup menu, just like selecting French, Spanish, etc., On television broadcasts, you do likewise, but the odd part is there is place where DVS is listed in some systems, and that is not where the audio description tends to run. You will most often find it under “Spanish”, though one network— I think it was TBS, tends to show only actual Spanish under Spanish, and uses another language— I think it was Portuguese (?) for English DVS.

What you get on DVD, and with Broadcast TV is description in quieter parts of a show or over music (rarely over dialogue) and they tend to “dip” (make quieter) the background audio as they speak when possible. In a theater, they cannot dip the background audio, but you wear headphones tied to a receiver that plays ONLY the description in the same quieter places in the show and you listen to the movie (apart from the description) along with everyone else in the theater.

One important note. The Regal theaters use the same headsets for hearing impaired and blind patrons. The select a specific channel for the theater where you will watch, and they have to select if it us for hearing impaired or blind. Hearing impaired seems to be more common, and often they set things incorrectly. The hearing impaired assistance, in this case, it to let you play the sound louder— that’s it. We have found they do not run preview audio through the headset for DVS, so the headphones won’t do anything until the movie starts. If you’re hearing coming attraction audio over the headset, go to customer service and have them fix the setting.

Do not assume that your white cane will clue them in at all. About 2/3 of the time, when they bring the headset to us (in three different theaters where we have attended, in two different states) they generally have the thing set wrong, so when they bring the headset, your better off to just ask again— did you set this for AUDIO DESCRIPTION? NOT TO JUST MAKE THE SHOW LOUDER? More often than not, we get an embarrassed groan and an apology, with a quick adjustment, and an “Enjoy the show!"

Sorry if that is TMI, but I hope that helps.

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Samnet


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Nicole Massey <nyyki@...>
 

I've had great luck with AMC here in Texas. They set the headset the right
way all the time.
One note, though -- most of the time the headphones on these systems are not
the best. Many of the receiver boxes use a standard headphone jack, so you
can bring your own higher quality headphones. I've found this improves the
sound quality a lot.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces+nyyki=gypsyheir.com@...] On
Behalf Of Richard Holloway
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 9:43 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Movies for the blind

This site (below) tracks current releases of DVD's with Audio
Description as well as TV schedules for many described programs on TV
and helps to explain how to access the alternative audio on these
broadcasts:
http://www.acb.org/adp/ad.html

This site (also below) tracks movies in theaters showing with Audio
Description and various captioning options. As the name would imply,
their original focus was apparently for hearing impaired individuals,
so you will need to be certain to select the "Descriptive Video"
filter, or you'll get a mixture of results with both DVS and for the
hearing impaired (some movies have both at once). The hearing impaired
solutions vary from headphones that make things louder, to open
captions which all sighted guests can see, to rear displayed captions
where sighted moviegoers can put a mirror into a cup holder and read
the captions from the back wall (they are shown in reverse and the
mirror fixes that.) As a general rule, Regal theaters offers the vast
majority of their films with DVS- probably more than 90%:
http://www.captionfish.com

The big shift at Regal happened when they went all-digital. Since
movies all come over the internet, there is no hassle with sending
along the DVS. AMC used (may still use) an older system where they have
to send a CD or DVD with the DVS and any captioning on it, and then
they have to load the right disk with the movie, and it was rarely
offered and then hardly ever worked correctly. This was back when most
theaters still showed actual films. I had assumed AMC would be the
first to use the digital DVS system, but so far, I am only aware of the
strong DVS offering by Regal and a few of their affiliated companies.

If you are new to this, briefly, for DVD's you select an alternative
language in the setup menu, just like selecting French, Spanish, etc.,
On television broadcasts, you do likewise, but the odd part is there is
place where DVS is listed in some systems, and that is not where the
audio description tends to run. You will most often find it under
"Spanish", though one network- I think it was TBS, tends to show only
actual Spanish under Spanish, and uses another language- I think it was
Portuguese (?) for English DVS.

What you get on DVD, and with Broadcast TV is description in quieter
parts of a show or over music (rarely over dialogue) and they tend to
"dip" (make quieter) the background audio as they speak when possible.
In a theater, they cannot dip the background audio, but you wear
headphones tied to a receiver that plays ONLY the description in the
same quieter places in the show and you listen to the movie (apart from
the description) along with everyone else in the theater.

One important note. The Regal theaters use the same headsets for
hearing impaired and blind patrons. The select a specific channel for
the theater where you will watch, and they have to select if it us for
hearing impaired or blind. Hearing impaired seems to be more common,
and often they set things incorrectly. The hearing impaired assistance,
in this case, it to let you play the sound louder- that's it. We have
found they do not run preview audio through the headset for DVS, so the
headphones won't do anything until the movie starts. If you're hearing
coming attraction audio over the headset, go to customer service and
have them fix the setting.

Do not assume that your white cane will clue them in at all. About 2/3
of the time, when they bring the headset to us (in three different
theaters where we have attended, in two different states) they
generally have the thing set wrong, so when they bring the headset,
your better off to just ask again- did you set this for AUDIO
DESCRIPTION? NOT TO JUST MAKE THE SHOW LOUDER? More often than not, we
get an embarrassed groan and an apology, with a quick adjustment, and
an "Enjoy the show!"

Sorry if that is TMI, but I hope that helps.



On Apr 4, 2014, at 5:31 PM, Sharon <mt281820@...> wrote:

Samnet


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Marianne Denning
 

Be extremely careful if you choose to use the movie vault from Blind
Mice. They use Send Space. When I installed Sendspace on my computer
recently it put all kinds of stuff I didn't want on my computer. Be
sure to use custom install for it. I did email Blind Mice about this
but did not receive any response.

On 4/5/14, Nicole Massey <nyyki@...> wrote:
I've had great luck with AMC here in Texas. They set the headset the right
way all the time.
One note, though -- most of the time the headphones on these systems are
not
the best. Many of the receiver boxes use a standard headphone jack, so you
can bring your own higher quality headphones. I've found this improves the
sound quality a lot.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces+nyyki=gypsyheir.com@...] On
Behalf Of Richard Holloway
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 9:43 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Movies for the blind

This site (below) tracks current releases of DVD's with Audio
Description as well as TV schedules for many described programs on TV
and helps to explain how to access the alternative audio on these
broadcasts:
http://www.acb.org/adp/ad.html

This site (also below) tracks movies in theaters showing with Audio
Description and various captioning options. As the name would imply,
their original focus was apparently for hearing impaired individuals,
so you will need to be certain to select the "Descriptive Video"
filter, or you'll get a mixture of results with both DVS and for the
hearing impaired (some movies have both at once). The hearing impaired
solutions vary from headphones that make things louder, to open
captions which all sighted guests can see, to rear displayed captions
where sighted moviegoers can put a mirror into a cup holder and read
the captions from the back wall (they are shown in reverse and the
mirror fixes that.) As a general rule, Regal theaters offers the vast
majority of their films with DVS- probably more than 90%:
http://www.captionfish.com

The big shift at Regal happened when they went all-digital. Since
movies all come over the internet, there is no hassle with sending
along the DVS. AMC used (may still use) an older system where they have
to send a CD or DVD with the DVS and any captioning on it, and then
they have to load the right disk with the movie, and it was rarely
offered and then hardly ever worked correctly. This was back when most
theaters still showed actual films. I had assumed AMC would be the
first to use the digital DVS system, but so far, I am only aware of the
strong DVS offering by Regal and a few of their affiliated companies.

If you are new to this, briefly, for DVD's you select an alternative
language in the setup menu, just like selecting French, Spanish, etc.,
On television broadcasts, you do likewise, but the odd part is there is
place where DVS is listed in some systems, and that is not where the
audio description tends to run. You will most often find it under
"Spanish", though one network- I think it was TBS, tends to show only
actual Spanish under Spanish, and uses another language- I think it was
Portuguese (?) for English DVS.

What you get on DVD, and with Broadcast TV is description in quieter
parts of a show or over music (rarely over dialogue) and they tend to
"dip" (make quieter) the background audio as they speak when possible.
In a theater, they cannot dip the background audio, but you wear
headphones tied to a receiver that plays ONLY the description in the
same quieter places in the show and you listen to the movie (apart from
the description) along with everyone else in the theater.

One important note. The Regal theaters use the same headsets for
hearing impaired and blind patrons. The select a specific channel for
the theater where you will watch, and they have to select if it us for
hearing impaired or blind. Hearing impaired seems to be more common,
and often they set things incorrectly. The hearing impaired assistance,
in this case, it to let you play the sound louder- that's it. We have
found they do not run preview audio through the headset for DVS, so the
headphones won't do anything until the movie starts. If you're hearing
coming attraction audio over the headset, go to customer service and
have them fix the setting.

Do not assume that your white cane will clue them in at all. About 2/3
of the time, when they bring the headset to us (in three different
theaters where we have attended, in two different states) they
generally have the thing set wrong, so when they bring the headset,
your better off to just ask again- did you set this for AUDIO
DESCRIPTION? NOT TO JUST MAKE THE SHOW LOUDER? More often than not, we
get an embarrassed groan and an apology, with a quick adjustment, and
an "Enjoy the show!"

Sorry if that is TMI, but I hope that helps.



On Apr 4, 2014, at 5:31 PM, Sharon <mt281820@...> wrote:

Samnet


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(513) 607-6053


Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS) <Tim.Ford@...>
 

For Send Space, you can use the free option, which eliminates the need to install any software. At the free level, you can do only one download at a time, and it is limited to 80 KBS. At that speed, it takes about 15-20 minutes to download a full length movie. If you pay, it is something like $7.95 a month for the Send Space Pro level, you can download several at a time, and the download time for a movie drops to maybe 5 minutes or less, depending upon Internet traffic.. I have done it both ways and the free level is fine if you are downloading only a couple of items. If you want to do a bunch of download, then you can pay the $7.95 for a single month and download to your hearts content. I want to emphasize that the $7.95 monthly charge for the Pro level is money going directly to Send Space, not Blind Mice.

Tim Ford

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces+tim.ford=cdph.ca.gov@...] On Behalf Of Marianne Denning
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 7:09 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Movies for the blind

Be extremely careful if you choose to use the movie vault from Blind
Mice. They use Send Space. When I installed Sendspace on my computer
recently it put all kinds of stuff I didn't want on my computer. Be
sure to use custom install for it. I did email Blind Mice about this
but did not receive any response.

On 4/5/14, Nicole Massey <nyyki@...> wrote:
I've had great luck with AMC here in Texas. They set the headset the right
way all the time.
One note, though -- most of the time the headphones on these systems are
not
the best. Many of the receiver boxes use a standard headphone jack, so you
can bring your own higher quality headphones. I've found this improves the
sound quality a lot.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces+nyyki=gypsyheir.com@...] On
Behalf Of Richard Holloway
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 9:43 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Movies for the blind

This site (below) tracks current releases of DVD's with Audio
Description as well as TV schedules for many described programs on TV
and helps to explain how to access the alternative audio on these
broadcasts:
http://www.acb.org/adp/ad.html

This site (also below) tracks movies in theaters showing with Audio
Description and various captioning options. As the name would imply,
their original focus was apparently for hearing impaired individuals,
so you will need to be certain to select the "Descriptive Video"
filter, or you'll get a mixture of results with both DVS and for the
hearing impaired (some movies have both at once). The hearing impaired
solutions vary from headphones that make things louder, to open
captions which all sighted guests can see, to rear displayed captions
where sighted moviegoers can put a mirror into a cup holder and read
the captions from the back wall (they are shown in reverse and the
mirror fixes that.) As a general rule, Regal theaters offers the vast
majority of their films with DVS- probably more than 90%:
http://www.captionfish.com

The big shift at Regal happened when they went all-digital. Since
movies all come over the internet, there is no hassle with sending
along the DVS. AMC used (may still use) an older system where they have
to send a CD or DVD with the DVS and any captioning on it, and then
they have to load the right disk with the movie, and it was rarely
offered and then hardly ever worked correctly. This was back when most
theaters still showed actual films. I had assumed AMC would be the
first to use the digital DVS system, but so far, I am only aware of the
strong DVS offering by Regal and a few of their affiliated companies.

If you are new to this, briefly, for DVD's you select an alternative
language in the setup menu, just like selecting French, Spanish, etc.,
On television broadcasts, you do likewise, but the odd part is there is
place where DVS is listed in some systems, and that is not where the
audio description tends to run. You will most often find it under
"Spanish", though one network- I think it was TBS, tends to show only
actual Spanish under Spanish, and uses another language- I think it was
Portuguese (?) for English DVS.

What you get on DVD, and with Broadcast TV is description in quieter
parts of a show or over music (rarely over dialogue) and they tend to
"dip" (make quieter) the background audio as they speak when possible.
In a theater, they cannot dip the background audio, but you wear
headphones tied to a receiver that plays ONLY the description in the
same quieter places in the show and you listen to the movie (apart from
the description) along with everyone else in the theater.

One important note. The Regal theaters use the same headsets for
hearing impaired and blind patrons. The select a specific channel for
the theater where you will watch, and they have to select if it us for
hearing impaired or blind. Hearing impaired seems to be more common,
and often they set things incorrectly. The hearing impaired assistance,
in this case, it to let you play the sound louder- that's it. We have
found they do not run preview audio through the headset for DVS, so the
headphones won't do anything until the movie starts. If you're hearing
coming attraction audio over the headset, go to customer service and
have them fix the setting.

Do not assume that your white cane will clue them in at all. About 2/3
of the time, when they bring the headset to us (in three different
theaters where we have attended, in two different states) they
generally have the thing set wrong, so when they bring the headset,
your better off to just ask again- did you set this for AUDIO
DESCRIPTION? NOT TO JUST MAKE THE SHOW LOUDER? More often than not, we
get an embarrassed groan and an apology, with a quick adjustment, and
an "Enjoy the show!"

Sorry if that is TMI, but I hope that helps.



On Apr 4, 2014, at 5:31 PM, Sharon <mt281820@...> wrote:

Samnet


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paul lemm
 

Hi

Thanks for the recommendation of 'Samnet' I took a look but couldn't see
anything about if they have audio described movies to listen to. if I sign
up do they have a list of movies to download?

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Of Sharon
Sent: 04 April 2014 22:32
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Movies for the blind

Samnet


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paul lemm
 

I found an on demand audio description site whilst searching google a
moment ago and its due to launch later this year called talking flicks. The
website is below for anyone intrested

http://talkingflix.com/index.php
paul lemm

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Angel
 

You don't have to install send space on any computer. Just click on the send space link, and download the movie.

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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: Movies for the blind


Be extremely careful if you choose to use the movie vault from Blind
Mice. They use Send Space. When I installed Sendspace on my computer
recently it put all kinds of stuff I didn't want on my computer. Be
sure to use custom install for it. I did email Blind Mice about this
but did not receive any response.

On 4/5/14, Nicole Massey <nyyki@...> wrote:
I've had great luck with AMC here in Texas. They set the headset the right
way all the time.
One note, though -- most of the time the headphones on these systems are
not
the best. Many of the receiver boxes use a standard headphone jack, so you
can bring your own higher quality headphones. I've found this improves the
sound quality a lot.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces+nyyki=gypsyheir.com@...] On
Behalf Of Richard Holloway
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 9:43 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Movies for the blind

This site (below) tracks current releases of DVD's with Audio
Description as well as TV schedules for many described programs on TV
and helps to explain how to access the alternative audio on these
broadcasts:
http://www.acb.org/adp/ad.html

This site (also below) tracks movies in theaters showing with Audio
Description and various captioning options. As the name would imply,
their original focus was apparently for hearing impaired individuals,
so you will need to be certain to select the "Descriptive Video"
filter, or you'll get a mixture of results with both DVS and for the
hearing impaired (some movies have both at once). The hearing impaired
solutions vary from headphones that make things louder, to open
captions which all sighted guests can see, to rear displayed captions
where sighted moviegoers can put a mirror into a cup holder and read
the captions from the back wall (they are shown in reverse and the
mirror fixes that.) As a general rule, Regal theaters offers the vast
majority of their films with DVS- probably more than 90%:
http://www.captionfish.com

The big shift at Regal happened when they went all-digital. Since
movies all come over the internet, there is no hassle with sending
along the DVS. AMC used (may still use) an older system where they have
to send a CD or DVD with the DVS and any captioning on it, and then
they have to load the right disk with the movie, and it was rarely
offered and then hardly ever worked correctly. This was back when most
theaters still showed actual films. I had assumed AMC would be the
first to use the digital DVS system, but so far, I am only aware of the
strong DVS offering by Regal and a few of their affiliated companies.

If you are new to this, briefly, for DVD's you select an alternative
language in the setup menu, just like selecting French, Spanish, etc.,
On television broadcasts, you do likewise, but the odd part is there is
place where DVS is listed in some systems, and that is not where the
audio description tends to run. You will most often find it under
"Spanish", though one network- I think it was TBS, tends to show only
actual Spanish under Spanish, and uses another language- I think it was
Portuguese (?) for English DVS.

What you get on DVD, and with Broadcast TV is description in quieter
parts of a show or over music (rarely over dialogue) and they tend to
"dip" (make quieter) the background audio as they speak when possible.
In a theater, they cannot dip the background audio, but you wear
headphones tied to a receiver that plays ONLY the description in the
same quieter places in the show and you listen to the movie (apart from
the description) along with everyone else in the theater.

One important note. The Regal theaters use the same headsets for
hearing impaired and blind patrons. The select a specific channel for
the theater where you will watch, and they have to select if it us for
hearing impaired or blind. Hearing impaired seems to be more common,
and often they set things incorrectly. The hearing impaired assistance,
in this case, it to let you play the sound louder- that's it. We have
found they do not run preview audio through the headset for DVS, so the
headphones won't do anything until the movie starts. If you're hearing
coming attraction audio over the headset, go to customer service and
have them fix the setting.

Do not assume that your white cane will clue them in at all. About 2/3
of the time, when they bring the headset to us (in three different
theaters where we have attended, in two different states) they
generally have the thing set wrong, so when they bring the headset,
your better off to just ask again- did you set this for AUDIO
DESCRIPTION? NOT TO JUST MAKE THE SHOW LOUDER? More often than not, we
get an embarrassed groan and an apology, with a quick adjustment, and
an "Enjoy the show!"

Sorry if that is TMI, but I hope that helps.



On Apr 4, 2014, at 5:31 PM, Sharon <mt281820@...> wrote:

Samnet


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces+mt281820=comcast.net@...]
On Behalf Of John Chan
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 3:06 PM
To: Jaws Mailing List
Subject: Movies for the blind

Where cn i find movies fo the blind?Sent from my iPhone

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I did get the free version. I will never ever do it again!!! It put
something on my computer that really messed everything up. It changed
my search engine from Google, messed up a lot of other internet things
and took me many weeks to clean up.

On 4/5/14, Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS) <Tim.Ford@...> wrote:
For Send Space, you can use the free option, which eliminates the need to
install any software. At the free level, you can do only one download at a
time, and it is limited to 80 KBS. At that speed, it takes about 15-20
minutes to download a full length movie. If you pay, it is something like
$7.95 a month for the Send Space Pro level, you can download several at a
time, and the download time for a movie drops to maybe 5 minutes or less,
depending upon Internet traffic.. I have done it both ways and the free
level is fine if you are downloading only a couple of items. If you want to
do a bunch of download, then you can pay the $7.95 for a single month and
download to your hearts content. I want to emphasize that the $7.95 monthly
charge for the Pro level is money going directly to Send Space, not Blind
Mice.

Tim Ford


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces+tim.ford=cdph.ca.gov@...] On
Behalf Of Marianne Denning
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 7:09 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Movies for the blind

Be extremely careful if you choose to use the movie vault from Blind
Mice. They use Send Space. When I installed Sendspace on my computer
recently it put all kinds of stuff I didn't want on my computer. Be
sure to use custom install for it. I did email Blind Mice about this
but did not receive any response.

On 4/5/14, Nicole Massey <nyyki@...> wrote:
I've had great luck with AMC here in Texas. They set the headset the
right
way all the time.
One note, though -- most of the time the headphones on these systems are
not
the best. Many of the receiver boxes use a standard headphone jack, so
you
can bring your own higher quality headphones. I've found this improves
the
sound quality a lot.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces+nyyki=gypsyheir.com@...] On
Behalf Of Richard Holloway
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 9:43 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Movies for the blind

This site (below) tracks current releases of DVD's with Audio
Description as well as TV schedules for many described programs on TV
and helps to explain how to access the alternative audio on these
broadcasts:
http://www.acb.org/adp/ad.html

This site (also below) tracks movies in theaters showing with Audio
Description and various captioning options. As the name would imply,
their original focus was apparently for hearing impaired individuals,
so you will need to be certain to select the "Descriptive Video"
filter, or you'll get a mixture of results with both DVS and for the
hearing impaired (some movies have both at once). The hearing impaired
solutions vary from headphones that make things louder, to open
captions which all sighted guests can see, to rear displayed captions
where sighted moviegoers can put a mirror into a cup holder and read
the captions from the back wall (they are shown in reverse and the
mirror fixes that.) As a general rule, Regal theaters offers the vast
majority of their films with DVS- probably more than 90%:
http://www.captionfish.com

The big shift at Regal happened when they went all-digital. Since
movies all come over the internet, there is no hassle with sending
along the DVS. AMC used (may still use) an older system where they have
to send a CD or DVD with the DVS and any captioning on it, and then
they have to load the right disk with the movie, and it was rarely
offered and then hardly ever worked correctly. This was back when most
theaters still showed actual films. I had assumed AMC would be the
first to use the digital DVS system, but so far, I am only aware of the
strong DVS offering by Regal and a few of their affiliated companies.

If you are new to this, briefly, for DVD's you select an alternative
language in the setup menu, just like selecting French, Spanish, etc.,
On television broadcasts, you do likewise, but the odd part is there is
place where DVS is listed in some systems, and that is not where the
audio description tends to run. You will most often find it under
"Spanish", though one network- I think it was TBS, tends to show only
actual Spanish under Spanish, and uses another language- I think it was
Portuguese (?) for English DVS.

What you get on DVD, and with Broadcast TV is description in quieter
parts of a show or over music (rarely over dialogue) and they tend to
"dip" (make quieter) the background audio as they speak when possible.
In a theater, they cannot dip the background audio, but you wear
headphones tied to a receiver that plays ONLY the description in the
same quieter places in the show and you listen to the movie (apart from
the description) along with everyone else in the theater.

One important note. The Regal theaters use the same headsets for
hearing impaired and blind patrons. The select a specific channel for
the theater where you will watch, and they have to select if it us for
hearing impaired or blind. Hearing impaired seems to be more common,
and often they set things incorrectly. The hearing impaired assistance,
in this case, it to let you play the sound louder- that's it. We have
found they do not run preview audio through the headset for DVS, so the
headphones won't do anything until the movie starts. If you're hearing
coming attraction audio over the headset, go to customer service and
have them fix the setting.

Do not assume that your white cane will clue them in at all. About 2/3
of the time, when they bring the headset to us (in three different
theaters where we have attended, in two different states) they
generally have the thing set wrong, so when they bring the headset,
your better off to just ask again- did you set this for AUDIO
DESCRIPTION? NOT TO JUST MAKE THE SHOW LOUDER? More often than not, we
get an embarrassed groan and an apology, with a quick adjustment, and
an "Enjoy the show!"

Sorry if that is TMI, but I hope that helps.



On Apr 4, 2014, at 5:31 PM, Sharon <mt281820@...> wrote:

Samnet


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces+mt281820=comcast.net@...]
On Behalf Of John Chan
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 3:06 PM
To: Jaws Mailing List
Subject: Movies for the blind

Where cn i find movies fo the blind?Sent from my iPhone

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(513) 607-6053


Marianne Denning
 

I went through the process required by Blind Mice.

On 4/5/14, Angel <angel238@...> wrote:
You don't have to install send space on any computer. Just click on the
send space link, and download the movie.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marianne Denning" <marianne@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: Movies for the blind


Be extremely careful if you choose to use the movie vault from Blind
Mice. They use Send Space. When I installed Sendspace on my computer
recently it put all kinds of stuff I didn't want on my computer. Be
sure to use custom install for it. I did email Blind Mice about this
but did not receive any response.

On 4/5/14, Nicole Massey <nyyki@...> wrote:
I've had great luck with AMC here in Texas. They set the headset the
right
way all the time.
One note, though -- most of the time the headphones on these systems are
not
the best. Many of the receiver boxes use a standard headphone jack, so
you
can bring your own higher quality headphones. I've found this improves
the
sound quality a lot.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces+nyyki=gypsyheir.com@...] On
Behalf Of Richard Holloway
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 9:43 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Movies for the blind

This site (below) tracks current releases of DVD's with Audio
Description as well as TV schedules for many described programs on TV
and helps to explain how to access the alternative audio on these
broadcasts:
http://www.acb.org/adp/ad.html

This site (also below) tracks movies in theaters showing with Audio
Description and various captioning options. As the name would imply,
their original focus was apparently for hearing impaired individuals,
so you will need to be certain to select the "Descriptive Video"
filter, or you'll get a mixture of results with both DVS and for the
hearing impaired (some movies have both at once). The hearing impaired
solutions vary from headphones that make things louder, to open
captions which all sighted guests can see, to rear displayed captions
where sighted moviegoers can put a mirror into a cup holder and read
the captions from the back wall (they are shown in reverse and the
mirror fixes that.) As a general rule, Regal theaters offers the vast
majority of their films with DVS- probably more than 90%:
http://www.captionfish.com

The big shift at Regal happened when they went all-digital. Since
movies all come over the internet, there is no hassle with sending
along the DVS. AMC used (may still use) an older system where they have
to send a CD or DVD with the DVS and any captioning on it, and then
they have to load the right disk with the movie, and it was rarely
offered and then hardly ever worked correctly. This was back when most
theaters still showed actual films. I had assumed AMC would be the
first to use the digital DVS system, but so far, I am only aware of the
strong DVS offering by Regal and a few of their affiliated companies.

If you are new to this, briefly, for DVD's you select an alternative
language in the setup menu, just like selecting French, Spanish, etc.,
On television broadcasts, you do likewise, but the odd part is there is
place where DVS is listed in some systems, and that is not where the
audio description tends to run. You will most often find it under
"Spanish", though one network- I think it was TBS, tends to show only
actual Spanish under Spanish, and uses another language- I think it was
Portuguese (?) for English DVS.

What you get on DVD, and with Broadcast TV is description in quieter
parts of a show or over music (rarely over dialogue) and they tend to
"dip" (make quieter) the background audio as they speak when possible.
In a theater, they cannot dip the background audio, but you wear
headphones tied to a receiver that plays ONLY the description in the
same quieter places in the show and you listen to the movie (apart from
the description) along with everyone else in the theater.

One important note. The Regal theaters use the same headsets for
hearing impaired and blind patrons. The select a specific channel for
the theater where you will watch, and they have to select if it us for
hearing impaired or blind. Hearing impaired seems to be more common,
and often they set things incorrectly. The hearing impaired assistance,
in this case, it to let you play the sound louder- that's it. We have
found they do not run preview audio through the headset for DVS, so the
headphones won't do anything until the movie starts. If you're hearing
coming attraction audio over the headset, go to customer service and
have them fix the setting.

Do not assume that your white cane will clue them in at all. About 2/3
of the time, when they bring the headset to us (in three different
theaters where we have attended, in two different states) they
generally have the thing set wrong, so when they bring the headset,
your better off to just ask again- did you set this for AUDIO
DESCRIPTION? NOT TO JUST MAKE THE SHOW LOUDER? More often than not, we
get an embarrassed groan and an apology, with a quick adjustment, and
an "Enjoy the show!"

Sorry if that is TMI, but I hope that helps.



On Apr 4, 2014, at 5:31 PM, Sharon <mt281820@...> wrote:

Samnet


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces+mt281820=comcast.net@...]
On Behalf Of John Chan
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 3:06 PM
To: Jaws Mailing List
Subject: Movies for the blind

Where cn i find movies fo the blind?Sent from my iPhone

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(513) 607-6053


Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS) <Tim.Ford@...>
 

Boy, don't you hate that!

Now I remember. Part of the free package includes the option of installing the Sendspace wizard. That is where all that junk got installed on your machine. The wizard is not at all needed, and you can use the usual windows download process.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Marianne Denning
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 1:57 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Movies for the blind

I did get the free version. I will never ever do it again!!! It put something on my computer that really messed everything up. It changed my search engine from Google, messed up a lot of other internet things and took me many weeks to clean up.

On 4/5/14, Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS) <Tim.Ford@...> wrote:
For Send Space, you can use the free option, which eliminates the need
to install any software. At the free level, you can do only one
download at a time, and it is limited to 80 KBS. At that speed, it
takes about 15-20 minutes to download a full length movie. If you
pay, it is something like
$7.95 a month for the Send Space Pro level, you can download several
at a time, and the download time for a movie drops to maybe 5 minutes
or less, depending upon Internet traffic.. I have done it both ways
and the free level is fine if you are downloading only a couple of
items. If you want to do a bunch of download, then you can pay the
$7.95 for a single month and download to your hearts content. I want
to emphasize that the $7.95 monthly charge for the Pro level is money
going directly to Send Space, not Blind Mice.

Tim Ford


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces+tim.ford=cdph.ca.gov@...]
On Behalf Of Marianne Denning
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 7:09 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Movies for the blind

Be extremely careful if you choose to use the movie vault from Blind
Mice. They use Send Space. When I installed Sendspace on my computer
recently it put all kinds of stuff I didn't want on my computer. Be
sure to use custom install for it. I did email Blind Mice about this
but did not receive any response.

On 4/5/14, Nicole Massey <nyyki@...> wrote:
I've had great luck with AMC here in Texas. They set the headset the
right way all the time.
One note, though -- most of the time the headphones on these systems
are not the best. Many of the receiver boxes use a standard headphone
jack, so you can bring your own higher quality headphones. I've found
this improves the sound quality a lot.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces+nyyki=gypsyheir.com@...]
On Behalf Of Richard Holloway
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 9:43 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Movies for the blind

This site (below) tracks current releases of DVD's with Audio
Description as well as TV schedules for many described programs on
TV and helps to explain how to access the alternative audio on these
broadcasts:
http://www.acb.org/adp/ad.html

This site (also below) tracks movies in theaters showing with Audio
Description and various captioning options. As the name would imply,
their original focus was apparently for hearing impaired
individuals, so you will need to be certain to select the "Descriptive Video"
filter, or you'll get a mixture of results with both DVS and for the
hearing impaired (some movies have both at once). The hearing
impaired solutions vary from headphones that make things louder, to
open captions which all sighted guests can see, to rear displayed
captions where sighted moviegoers can put a mirror into a cup holder
and read the captions from the back wall (they are shown in reverse
and the mirror fixes that.) As a general rule, Regal theaters offers
the vast majority of their films with DVS- probably more than 90%:
http://www.captionfish.com

The big shift at Regal happened when they went all-digital. Since
movies all come over the internet, there is no hassle with sending
along the DVS. AMC used (may still use) an older system where they
have to send a CD or DVD with the DVS and any captioning on it, and
then they have to load the right disk with the movie, and it was
rarely offered and then hardly ever worked correctly. This was back
when most theaters still showed actual films. I had assumed AMC
would be the first to use the digital DVS system, but so far, I am
only aware of the strong DVS offering by Regal and a few of their affiliated companies.

If you are new to this, briefly, for DVD's you select an alternative
language in the setup menu, just like selecting French, Spanish,
etc., On television broadcasts, you do likewise, but the odd part is
there is place where DVS is listed in some systems, and that is not
where the audio description tends to run. You will most often find
it under "Spanish", though one network- I think it was TBS, tends to
show only actual Spanish under Spanish, and uses another language- I
think it was Portuguese (?) for English DVS.

What you get on DVD, and with Broadcast TV is description in quieter
parts of a show or over music (rarely over dialogue) and they tend
to "dip" (make quieter) the background audio as they speak when possible.
In a theater, they cannot dip the background audio, but you wear
headphones tied to a receiver that plays ONLY the description in the
same quieter places in the show and you listen to the movie (apart
from the description) along with everyone else in the theater.

One important note. The Regal theaters use the same headsets for
hearing impaired and blind patrons. The select a specific channel
for the theater where you will watch, and they have to select if it
us for hearing impaired or blind. Hearing impaired seems to be more
common, and often they set things incorrectly. The hearing impaired
assistance, in this case, it to let you play the sound louder-
that's it. We have found they do not run preview audio through the
headset for DVS, so the headphones won't do anything until the movie
starts. If you're hearing coming attraction audio over the headset,
go to customer service and have them fix the setting.

Do not assume that your white cane will clue them in at all. About
2/3 of the time, when they bring the headset to us (in three
different theaters where we have attended, in two different states)
they generally have the thing set wrong, so when they bring the
headset, your better off to just ask again- did you set this for
AUDIO DESCRIPTION? NOT TO JUST MAKE THE SHOW LOUDER? More often than
not, we get an embarrassed groan and an apology, with a quick
adjustment, and an "Enjoy the show!"

Sorry if that is TMI, but I hope that helps.



On Apr 4, 2014, at 5:31 PM, Sharon <mt281820@...> wrote:

Samnet


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw
[mailto:jfw-bounces+mt281820=comcast.net@...]
On Behalf Of John Chan
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 3:06 PM
To: Jaws Mailing List
Subject: Movies for the blind

Where cn i find movies fo the blind?Sent from my iPhone

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Marianne Denning
 

Okay, I may try that again. That is great to know. I try to be
extremely careful about what I put on my computer.

On 4/5/14, Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS) <Tim.Ford@...> wrote:
Boy, don't you hate that!

Now I remember. Part of the free package includes the option of installing
the Sendspace wizard. That is where all that junk got installed on your
machine. The wizard is not at all needed, and you can use the usual windows
download process.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Marianne
Denning
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 1:57 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Movies for the blind

I did get the free version. I will never ever do it again!!! It put
something on my computer that really messed everything up. It changed my
search engine from Google, messed up a lot of other internet things and took
me many weeks to clean up.

On 4/5/14, Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS) <Tim.Ford@...> wrote:
For Send Space, you can use the free option, which eliminates the need
to install any software. At the free level, you can do only one
download at a time, and it is limited to 80 KBS. At that speed, it
takes about 15-20 minutes to download a full length movie. If you
pay, it is something like
$7.95 a month for the Send Space Pro level, you can download several
at a time, and the download time for a movie drops to maybe 5 minutes
or less, depending upon Internet traffic.. I have done it both ways
and the free level is fine if you are downloading only a couple of
items. If you want to do a bunch of download, then you can pay the
$7.95 for a single month and download to your hearts content. I want
to emphasize that the $7.95 monthly charge for the Pro level is money
going directly to Send Space, not Blind Mice.

Tim Ford


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces+tim.ford=cdph.ca.gov@...]
On Behalf Of Marianne Denning
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 7:09 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Movies for the blind

Be extremely careful if you choose to use the movie vault from Blind
Mice. They use Send Space. When I installed Sendspace on my computer
recently it put all kinds of stuff I didn't want on my computer. Be
sure to use custom install for it. I did email Blind Mice about this
but did not receive any response.

On 4/5/14, Nicole Massey <nyyki@...> wrote:
I've had great luck with AMC here in Texas. They set the headset the
right way all the time.
One note, though -- most of the time the headphones on these systems
are not the best. Many of the receiver boxes use a standard headphone
jack, so you can bring your own higher quality headphones. I've found
this improves the sound quality a lot.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces+nyyki=gypsyheir.com@...]
On Behalf Of Richard Holloway
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 9:43 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Movies for the blind

This site (below) tracks current releases of DVD's with Audio
Description as well as TV schedules for many described programs on
TV and helps to explain how to access the alternative audio on these
broadcasts:
http://www.acb.org/adp/ad.html

This site (also below) tracks movies in theaters showing with Audio
Description and various captioning options. As the name would imply,
their original focus was apparently for hearing impaired
individuals, so you will need to be certain to select the "Descriptive
Video"
filter, or you'll get a mixture of results with both DVS and for the
hearing impaired (some movies have both at once). The hearing
impaired solutions vary from headphones that make things louder, to
open captions which all sighted guests can see, to rear displayed
captions where sighted moviegoers can put a mirror into a cup holder
and read the captions from the back wall (they are shown in reverse
and the mirror fixes that.) As a general rule, Regal theaters offers
the vast majority of their films with DVS- probably more than 90%:
http://www.captionfish.com

The big shift at Regal happened when they went all-digital. Since
movies all come over the internet, there is no hassle with sending
along the DVS. AMC used (may still use) an older system where they
have to send a CD or DVD with the DVS and any captioning on it, and
then they have to load the right disk with the movie, and it was
rarely offered and then hardly ever worked correctly. This was back
when most theaters still showed actual films. I had assumed AMC
would be the first to use the digital DVS system, but so far, I am
only aware of the strong DVS offering by Regal and a few of their
affiliated companies.

If you are new to this, briefly, for DVD's you select an alternative
language in the setup menu, just like selecting French, Spanish,
etc., On television broadcasts, you do likewise, but the odd part is
there is place where DVS is listed in some systems, and that is not
where the audio description tends to run. You will most often find
it under "Spanish", though one network- I think it was TBS, tends to
show only actual Spanish under Spanish, and uses another language- I
think it was Portuguese (?) for English DVS.

What you get on DVD, and with Broadcast TV is description in quieter
parts of a show or over music (rarely over dialogue) and they tend
to "dip" (make quieter) the background audio as they speak when
possible.
In a theater, they cannot dip the background audio, but you wear
headphones tied to a receiver that plays ONLY the description in the
same quieter places in the show and you listen to the movie (apart
from the description) along with everyone else in the theater.

One important note. The Regal theaters use the same headsets for
hearing impaired and blind patrons. The select a specific channel
for the theater where you will watch, and they have to select if it
us for hearing impaired or blind. Hearing impaired seems to be more
common, and often they set things incorrectly. The hearing impaired
assistance, in this case, it to let you play the sound louder-
that's it. We have found they do not run preview audio through the
headset for DVS, so the headphones won't do anything until the movie
starts. If you're hearing coming attraction audio over the headset,
go to customer service and have them fix the setting.

Do not assume that your white cane will clue them in at all. About
2/3 of the time, when they bring the headset to us (in three
different theaters where we have attended, in two different states)
they generally have the thing set wrong, so when they bring the
headset, your better off to just ask again- did you set this for
AUDIO DESCRIPTION? NOT TO JUST MAKE THE SHOW LOUDER? More often than
not, we get an embarrassed groan and an apology, with a quick
adjustment, and an "Enjoy the show!"

Sorry if that is TMI, but I hope that helps.



On Apr 4, 2014, at 5:31 PM, Sharon <mt281820@...> wrote:

Samnet


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw
[mailto:jfw-bounces+mt281820=comcast.net@...]
On Behalf Of John Chan
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 3:06 PM
To: Jaws Mailing List
Subject: Movies for the blind

Where cn i find movies fo the blind?Sent from my iPhone

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Shane clark
 

Hi guys,
Ok, so could someone please repost the lik again to search for descriptive movies? I went to blindmicemeggamall.com, and couldn't find anything on it. Then I did a Google search, and I saw something about getting them from blindmicemart.com. so not sure whre to go here.
Thanks for any help.
Shane.

"Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS)" <Tim.Ford@...> wrote:

Boy, don't you hate that!

Now I remember. Part of the free package includes the option of
installing the Sendspace wizard. That is where all that junk got
installed on your machine. The wizard is not at all needed, and you
can use the usual windows download process.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Marianne
Denning
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 1:57 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Movies for the blind

I did get the free version. I will never ever do it again!!! It put
something on my computer that really messed everything up. It changed
my search engine from Google, messed up a lot of other internet things
and took me many weeks to clean up.

On 4/5/14, Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS) <Tim.Ford@...> wrote:
For Send Space, you can use the free option, which eliminates the
need
to install any software. At the free level, you can do only one
download at a time, and it is limited to 80 KBS. At that speed, it
takes about 15-20 minutes to download a full length movie. If you
pay, it is something like
$7.95 a month for the Send Space Pro level, you can download several
at a time, and the download time for a movie drops to maybe 5 minutes
or less, depending upon Internet traffic.. I have done it both ways
and the free level is fine if you are downloading only a couple of
items. If you want to do a bunch of download, then you can pay the
$7.95 for a single month and download to your hearts content. I want
to emphasize that the $7.95 monthly charge for the Pro level is money
going directly to Send Space, not Blind Mice.

Tim Ford


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces+tim.ford=cdph.ca.gov@...]
On Behalf Of Marianne Denning
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 7:09 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Movies for the blind

Be extremely careful if you choose to use the movie vault from Blind
Mice. They use Send Space. When I installed Sendspace on my
computer
recently it put all kinds of stuff I didn't want on my computer. Be
sure to use custom install for it. I did email Blind Mice about this
but did not receive any response.

On 4/5/14, Nicole Massey <nyyki@...> wrote:
I've had great luck with AMC here in Texas. They set the headset the
right way all the time.
One note, though -- most of the time the headphones on these systems
are not the best. Many of the receiver boxes use a standard
headphone
jack, so you can bring your own higher quality headphones. I've
found
this improves the sound quality a lot.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw
[mailto:jfw-bounces+nyyki=gypsyheir.com@...]
On Behalf Of Richard Holloway
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 9:43 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Movies for the blind

This site (below) tracks current releases of DVD's with Audio
Description as well as TV schedules for many described programs on
TV and helps to explain how to access the alternative audio on
these
broadcasts:
http://www.acb.org/adp/ad.html

This site (also below) tracks movies in theaters showing with Audio
Description and various captioning options. As the name would
imply,
their original focus was apparently for hearing impaired
individuals, so you will need to be certain to select the
"Descriptive Video"
filter, or you'll get a mixture of results with both DVS and for
the
hearing impaired (some movies have both at once). The hearing
impaired solutions vary from headphones that make things louder, to
open captions which all sighted guests can see, to rear displayed
captions where sighted moviegoers can put a mirror into a cup
holder
and read the captions from the back wall (they are shown in reverse
and the mirror fixes that.) As a general rule, Regal theaters
offers
the vast majority of their films with DVS- probably more than 90%:
http://www.captionfish.com

The big shift at Regal happened when they went all-digital. Since
movies all come over the internet, there is no hassle with sending
along the DVS. AMC used (may still use) an older system where they
have to send a CD or DVD with the DVS and any captioning on it, and
then they have to load the right disk with the movie, and it was
rarely offered and then hardly ever worked correctly. This was back
when most theaters still showed actual films. I had assumed AMC
would be the first to use the digital DVS system, but so far, I am
only aware of the strong DVS offering by Regal and a few of their
affiliated companies.

If you are new to this, briefly, for DVD's you select an
alternative
language in the setup menu, just like selecting French, Spanish,
etc., On television broadcasts, you do likewise, but the odd part
is
there is place where DVS is listed in some systems, and that is not
where the audio description tends to run. You will most often find
it under "Spanish", though one network- I think it was TBS, tends
to
show only actual Spanish under Spanish, and uses another language-
I
think it was Portuguese (?) for English DVS.

What you get on DVD, and with Broadcast TV is description in
quieter
parts of a show or over music (rarely over dialogue) and they tend
to "dip" (make quieter) the background audio as they speak when
possible.
In a theater, they cannot dip the background audio, but you wear
headphones tied to a receiver that plays ONLY the description in
the
same quieter places in the show and you listen to the movie (apart
from the description) along with everyone else in the theater.

One important note. The Regal theaters use the same headsets for
hearing impaired and blind patrons. The select a specific channel
for the theater where you will watch, and they have to select if it
us for hearing impaired or blind. Hearing impaired seems to be more
common, and often they set things incorrectly. The hearing impaired
assistance, in this case, it to let you play the sound louder-
that's it. We have found they do not run preview audio through the
headset for DVS, so the headphones won't do anything until the
movie
starts. If you're hearing coming attraction audio over the headset,
go to customer service and have them fix the setting.

Do not assume that your white cane will clue them in at all. About
2/3 of the time, when they bring the headset to us (in three
different theaters where we have attended, in two different states)
they generally have the thing set wrong, so when they bring the
headset, your better off to just ask again- did you set this for
AUDIO DESCRIPTION? NOT TO JUST MAKE THE SHOW LOUDER? More often
than
not, we get an embarrassed groan and an apology, with a quick
adjustment, and an "Enjoy the show!"

Sorry if that is TMI, but I hope that helps.



On Apr 4, 2014, at 5:31 PM, Sharon <mt281820@...> wrote:

Samnet


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw
[mailto:jfw-bounces+mt281820=comcast.net@...]
On Behalf Of John Chan
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 3:06 PM
To: Jaws Mailing List
Subject: Movies for the blind

Where cn i find movies fo the blind?Sent from my iPhone

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Sharon
 

You have to pay a subscription fee. There are thousands of movies and many
many other cook things to listen to and participate in.
Sharon

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Paul Lemm
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 12:47 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Movies for the blind

Hi

Thanks for the recommendation of 'Samnet' I took a look but couldn't see
anything about if they have audio described movies to listen to. if I sign
up do they have a list of movies to download?
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces+paul.lemm=sky.com@...] On Behalf
Of Sharon
Sent: 04 April 2014 22:32
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Movies for the blind

Samnet


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces+mt281820=comcast.net@...] On
Behalf Of John Chan
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 3:06 PM
To: Jaws Mailing List
Subject: Movies for the blind

Where cn i find movies fo the blind?Sent from my iPhone

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Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Shane. First you have to set up an account with blind mice mart. After that, you click on the Blind Mice Movie Vault, and the links to the movies are on that page.
Bill White billwhite92701@...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Shane Clark" <hshaneclark@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 3:23 PM
Subject: RE: Movies for the blind


Hi guys,
Ok, so could someone please repost the lik again to search for descriptive movies? I went to blindmicemeggamall.com, and couldn't find anything on it. Then I did a Google search, and I saw something about getting them from blindmicemart.com. so not sure whre to go here.
Thanks for any help.
Shane.

"Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS)" <Tim.Ford@...> wrote:
Boy, don't you hate that!

Now I remember. Part of the free package includes the option of
installing the Sendspace wizard. That is where all that junk got
installed on your machine. The wizard is not at all needed, and you
can use the usual windows download process.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Marianne
Denning
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 1:57 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Movies for the blind

I did get the free version. I will never ever do it again!!! It put
something on my computer that really messed everything up. It changed
my search engine from Google, messed up a lot of other internet things
and took me many weeks to clean up.

On 4/5/14, Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS) <Tim.Ford@...> wrote:
For Send Space, you can use the free option, which eliminates the
need
to install any software. At the free level, you can do only one
download at a time, and it is limited to 80 KBS. At that speed, it
takes about 15-20 minutes to download a full length movie. If you
pay, it is something like
$7.95 a month for the Send Space Pro level, you can download several
at a time, and the download time for a movie drops to maybe 5 minutes
or less, depending upon Internet traffic.. I have done it both ways
and the free level is fine if you are downloading only a couple of
items. If you want to do a bunch of download, then you can pay the
$7.95 for a single month and download to your hearts content. I want
to emphasize that the $7.95 monthly charge for the Pro level is money
going directly to Send Space, not Blind Mice.

Tim Ford


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces+tim.ford=cdph.ca.gov@...]
On Behalf Of Marianne Denning
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 7:09 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Movies for the blind

Be extremely careful if you choose to use the movie vault from Blind
Mice. They use Send Space. When I installed Sendspace on my
computer
recently it put all kinds of stuff I didn't want on my computer. Be
sure to use custom install for it. I did email Blind Mice about this
but did not receive any response.

On 4/5/14, Nicole Massey <nyyki@...> wrote:
I've had great luck with AMC here in Texas. They set the headset the
right way all the time.
One note, though -- most of the time the headphones on these systems
are not the best. Many of the receiver boxes use a standard
headphone
jack, so you can bring your own higher quality headphones. I've
found
this improves the sound quality a lot.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw
[mailto:jfw-bounces+nyyki=gypsyheir.com@...]
On Behalf Of Richard Holloway
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 9:43 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Movies for the blind

This site (below) tracks current releases of DVD's with Audio
Description as well as TV schedules for many described programs on
TV and helps to explain how to access the alternative audio on
these
broadcasts:
http://www.acb.org/adp/ad.html

This site (also below) tracks movies in theaters showing with Audio
Description and various captioning options. As the name would
imply,
their original focus was apparently for hearing impaired
individuals, so you will need to be certain to select the
"Descriptive Video"
filter, or you'll get a mixture of results with both DVS and for
the
hearing impaired (some movies have both at once). The hearing
impaired solutions vary from headphones that make things louder, to
open captions which all sighted guests can see, to rear displayed
captions where sighted moviegoers can put a mirror into a cup
holder
and read the captions from the back wall (they are shown in reverse
and the mirror fixes that.) As a general rule, Regal theaters
offers
the vast majority of their films with DVS- probably more than 90%:
http://www.captionfish.com

The big shift at Regal happened when they went all-digital. Since
movies all come over the internet, there is no hassle with sending
along the DVS. AMC used (may still use) an older system where they
have to send a CD or DVD with the DVS and any captioning on it, and
then they have to load the right disk with the movie, and it was
rarely offered and then hardly ever worked correctly. This was back
when most theaters still showed actual films. I had assumed AMC
would be the first to use the digital DVS system, but so far, I am
only aware of the strong DVS offering by Regal and a few of their
affiliated companies.

If you are new to this, briefly, for DVD's you select an
alternative
language in the setup menu, just like selecting French, Spanish,
etc., On television broadcasts, you do likewise, but the odd part
is
there is place where DVS is listed in some systems, and that is not
where the audio description tends to run. You will most often find
it under "Spanish", though one network- I think it was TBS, tends
to
show only actual Spanish under Spanish, and uses another language-
I
think it was Portuguese (?) for English DVS.

What you get on DVD, and with Broadcast TV is description in
quieter
parts of a show or over music (rarely over dialogue) and they tend
to "dip" (make quieter) the background audio as they speak when
possible.
In a theater, they cannot dip the background audio, but you wear
headphones tied to a receiver that plays ONLY the description in
the
same quieter places in the show and you listen to the movie (apart
from the description) along with everyone else in the theater.

One important note. The Regal theaters use the same headsets for
hearing impaired and blind patrons. The select a specific channel
for the theater where you will watch, and they have to select if it
us for hearing impaired or blind. Hearing impaired seems to be more
common, and often they set things incorrectly. The hearing impaired
assistance, in this case, it to let you play the sound louder-
that's it. We have found they do not run preview audio through the
headset for DVS, so the headphones won't do anything until the
movie
starts. If you're hearing coming attraction audio over the headset,
go to customer service and have them fix the setting.

Do not assume that your white cane will clue them in at all. About
2/3 of the time, when they bring the headset to us (in three
different theaters where we have attended, in two different states)
they generally have the thing set wrong, so when they bring the
headset, your better off to just ask again- did you set this for
AUDIO DESCRIPTION? NOT TO JUST MAKE THE SHOW LOUDER? More often
than
not, we get an embarrassed groan and an apology, with a quick
adjustment, and an "Enjoy the show!"

Sorry if that is TMI, but I hope that helps.



On Apr 4, 2014, at 5:31 PM, Sharon <mt281820@...> wrote:

Samnet


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw
[mailto:jfw-bounces+mt281820=comcast.net@...]
On Behalf Of John Chan
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 3:06 PM
To: Jaws Mailing List
Subject: Movies for the blind

Where cn i find movies fo the blind?Sent from my iPhone

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