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Brian Varner <bvarner05@...>

#18615

Hi all,

Does anyone have any suggestions on reading the gmail more
efficiently?  I have been jumping to a line but depending on how many
people are in the address line or how long the subject line is, or a
host of other stuff that differs from message to message, the first
line of the body of the email differs.  Thus, I hear stuff I don't
need to hear before the first line of the body of the email, or, I
jump past the first line.  Using "find" helps sometimes, but it would
be nice to have a placemarker that could be used with some
consistency.

Thanks,
Brian

Dave...

#18626

Brian,

Aren't there headers on the GMail site that you can use?
David G. Carlson
Marketing / Sales Engineer
RF Timing and Synchronization
dgcarlson@...

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian Varner" <bvarner05@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 6:23 AM
Subject: placemarker on gmail emails

Hi all,

Does anyone have any suggestions on reading the gmail more
efficiently?  I have been jumping to a line but depending on how many
people are in the address line or how long the subject line is, or a
host of other stuff that differs from message to message, the first
line of the body of the email differs.  Thus, I hear stuff I don't
need to hear before the first line of the body of the email, or, I
jump past the first line.  Using "find" helps sometimes, but it would
be nice to have a placemarker that could be used with some
consistency.

Thanks,
Brian

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Brian Varner <bvarner05@...>

#18629

Yes, there are headers, just too many.  I counted 9 times hitting h to
take me to the body of your reply.  Then, I tried a header list and
arrowed through that.  I guess I miss outlook express where you just
opened the email message and it popped you into the body of the email.
 Replying to gmail is cumbersome as well, hitting the tab key or arrow
key until you find the body of the email, and when you do find it, you
are at the bottom of the text.  So, to please those who prefer to see
the new text at the top and their old message after my new text, I
ctrl-home to put the cursor at the top of the body of the message.

Also, gmail doesn't include all the previous messages in the thread
when you first open a message someone has replied to.  To see the full
text, there is a "show original" button, but, when you use it, a new
window opens with all the gibberish marking the line breaks and
whatever all that other stuff is I don't need to hear.

Attaching stuff is cumbersome too.  I save music recordings from
chorus rehersal on my digital voice recorder, and sometimes will send
a few tracks to someone who missed a rehersal.  I always end up
hitting "send" before getting the attachment attached.  The prompts
for gmail with jaws are just not very intuitive.

Brian

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On 9/18/13, David G. Carlson <dgcarlson@...> wrote:
Brian,

Aren't there headers on the GMail site that you can use?
David G. Carlson
Marketing / Sales Engineer
RF Timing and Synchronization
dgcarlson@...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Varner" <bvarner05@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 6:23 AM
Subject: placemarker on gmail emails


Hi all,

Does anyone have any suggestions on reading the gmail more
efficiently?  I have been jumping to a line but depending on how many
people are in the address line or how long the subject line is, or a
host of other stuff that differs from message to message, the first
line of the body of the email differs.  Thus, I hear stuff I don't
need to hear before the first line of the body of the email, or, I
jump past the first line.  Using "find" helps sometimes, but it would
be nice to have a placemarker that could be used with some
consistency.

Thanks,
Brian

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Soronel Haetir

#18636

I use the heading level keys (1-6) rather than the generic heading key
(h).  From the top of the gmail page I hit 1 once and 2 three times.

Or I hit 'e' once or twince and then shift+2 or shift+3.

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On 9/18/13, Brian Varner <bvarner05@...> wrote:
Yes, there are headers, just too many.  I counted 9 times hitting h to
take me to the body of your reply.  Then, I tried a header list and
arrowed through that.  I guess I miss outlook express where you just
opened the email message and it popped you into the body of the email.
 Replying to gmail is cumbersome as well, hitting the tab key or arrow
key until you find the body of the email, and when you do find it, you
are at the bottom of the text.  So, to please those who prefer to see
the new text at the top and their old message after my new text, I
ctrl-home to put the cursor at the top of the body of the message.

Also, gmail doesn't include all the previous messages in the thread
when you first open a message someone has replied to.  To see the full
text, there is a "show original" button, but, when you use it, a new
window opens with all the gibberish marking the line breaks and
whatever all that other stuff is I don't need to hear.

Attaching stuff is cumbersome too.  I save music recordings from
chorus rehersal on my digital voice recorder, and sometimes will send
a few tracks to someone who missed a rehersal.  I always end up
hitting "send" before getting the attachment attached.  The prompts
for gmail with jaws are just not very intuitive.

Brian




On 9/18/13, David G. Carlson <dgcarlson@...> wrote:
Brian,

Aren't there headers on the GMail site that you can use?
David G. Carlson
Marketing / Sales Engineer
RF Timing and Synchronization
dgcarlson@...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Varner" <bvarner05@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 6:23 AM
Subject: placemarker on gmail emails


Hi all,

Does anyone have any suggestions on reading the gmail more
efficiently?  I have been jumping to a line but depending on how many
people are in the address line or how long the subject line is, or a
host of other stuff that differs from message to message, the first
line of the body of the email differs.  Thus, I hear stuff I don't
need to hear before the first line of the body of the email, or, I
jump past the first line.  Using "find" helps sometimes, but it would
be nice to have a placemarker that could be used with some
consistency.

Thanks,
Brian

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Dave...

#18639

Use the place markers feature to mark the header just before the text of 
interest.
David G. Carlson
Marketing / Sales Engineer
RF Timing and Synchronization
dgcarlson@...

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian Varner" <bvarner05@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: placemarker on gmail emails

Yes, there are headers, just too many.  I counted 9 times hitting h to
take me to the body of your reply.  Then, I tried a header list and
arrowed through that.  I guess I miss outlook express where you just
opened the email message and it popped you into the body of the email.
 Replying to gmail is cumbersome as well, hitting the tab key or arrow
key until you find the body of the email, and when you do find it, you
are at the bottom of the text.  So, to please those who prefer to see
the new text at the top and their old message after my new text, I
ctrl-home to put the cursor at the top of the body of the message.

Also, gmail doesn't include all the previous messages in the thread
when you first open a message someone has replied to.  To see the full
text, there is a "show original" button, but, when you use it, a new
window opens with all the gibberish marking the line breaks and
whatever all that other stuff is I don't need to hear.

Attaching stuff is cumbersome too.  I save music recordings from
chorus rehersal on my digital voice recorder, and sometimes will send
a few tracks to someone who missed a rehersal.  I always end up
hitting "send" before getting the attachment attached.  The prompts
for gmail with jaws are just not very intuitive.

Brian

On 9/18/13, David G. Carlson <dgcarlson@...> wrote:
Brian,

Aren't there headers on the GMail site that you can use?
David G. Carlson
Marketing / Sales Engineer
RF Timing and Synchronization
dgcarlson@...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Varner" <bvarner05@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 6:23 AM
Subject: placemarker on gmail emails

Hi all,

Does anyone have any suggestions on reading the gmail more
efficiently?  I have been jumping to a line but depending on how many
people are in the address line or how long the subject line is, or a
host of other stuff that differs from message to message, the first
line of the body of the email differs.  Thus, I hear stuff I don't
need to hear before the first line of the body of the email, or, I
jump past the first line.  Using "find" helps sometimes, but it would
be nice to have a placemarker that could be used with some
consistency.

Thanks,
Brian

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Brian Varner <bvarner05@...>

#18664

I've tried that using ctrl-shitf-k but when I open a new email and hit
k, I hear "no place marker found."  I'm using jaws 11.  again, I'm
using gmail (webmail) and need a way to navigate directly to the body
of the text in a new email.

Show quoted text

On 9/18/13, David G. Carlson <dgcarlson@...> wrote:
Use the place markers feature to mark the header just before the text of
interest.
David G. Carlson
Marketing / Sales Engineer
RF Timing and Synchronization
dgcarlson@...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Varner" <bvarner05@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: placemarker on gmail emails


Yes, there are headers, just too many.  I counted 9 times hitting h to
take me to the body of your reply.  Then, I tried a header list and
arrowed through that.  I guess I miss outlook express where you just
opened the email message and it popped you into the body of the email.
 Replying to gmail is cumbersome as well, hitting the tab key or arrow
key until you find the body of the email, and when you do find it, you
are at the bottom of the text.  So, to please those who prefer to see
the new text at the top and their old message after my new text, I
ctrl-home to put the cursor at the top of the body of the message.

Also, gmail doesn't include all the previous messages in the thread
when you first open a message someone has replied to.  To see the full
text, there is a "show original" button, but, when you use it, a new
window opens with all the gibberish marking the line breaks and
whatever all that other stuff is I don't need to hear.

Attaching stuff is cumbersome too.  I save music recordings from
chorus rehersal on my digital voice recorder, and sometimes will send
a few tracks to someone who missed a rehersal.  I always end up
hitting "send" before getting the attachment attached.  The prompts
for gmail with jaws are just not very intuitive.

Brian




On 9/18/13, David G. Carlson <dgcarlson@...> wrote:
Brian,

Aren't there headers on the GMail site that you can use?
David G. Carlson
Marketing / Sales Engineer
RF Timing and Synchronization
dgcarlson@...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Varner" <bvarner05@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 6:23 AM
Subject: placemarker on gmail emails


Hi all,

Does anyone have any suggestions on reading the gmail more
efficiently?  I have been jumping to a line but depending on how many
people are in the address line or how long the subject line is, or a
host of other stuff that differs from message to message, the first
line of the body of the email differs.  Thus, I hear stuff I don't
need to hear before the first line of the body of the email, or, I
jump past the first line.  Using "find" helps sometimes, but it would
be nice to have a placemarker that could be used with some
consistency.

Thanks,
Brian

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dennis

#18665

have you tried hitting the n key to jump to the body. this works in other html email clients that i use.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian Varner" <bvarner05@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: placemarker on gmail emails

I've tried that using ctrl-shitf-k but when I open a new email and hit
k, I hear "no place marker found."  I'm using jaws 11.  again, I'm
using gmail (webmail) and need a way to navigate directly to the body
of the text in a new email.

On 9/18/13, David G. Carlson <dgcarlson@...> wrote:
Use the place markers feature to mark the header just before the text of
interest.
David G. Carlson
Marketing / Sales Engineer
RF Timing and Synchronization
dgcarlson@...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Varner" <bvarner05@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: placemarker on gmail emails

Yes, there are headers, just too many.  I counted 9 times hitting h to
take me to the body of your reply.  Then, I tried a header list and
arrowed through that.  I guess I miss outlook express where you just
opened the email message and it popped you into the body of the email.
 Replying to gmail is cumbersome as well, hitting the tab key or arrow
key until you find the body of the email, and when you do find it, you
are at the bottom of the text.  So, to please those who prefer to see
the new text at the top and their old message after my new text, I
ctrl-home to put the cursor at the top of the body of the message.

Also, gmail doesn't include all the previous messages in the thread
when you first open a message someone has replied to.  To see the full
text, there is a "show original" button, but, when you use it, a new
window opens with all the gibberish marking the line breaks and
whatever all that other stuff is I don't need to hear.

Attaching stuff is cumbersome too.  I save music recordings from
chorus rehersal on my digital voice recorder, and sometimes will send
a few tracks to someone who missed a rehersal.  I always end up
hitting "send" before getting the attachment attached.  The prompts
for gmail with jaws are just not very intuitive.

Brian

On 9/18/13, David G. Carlson <dgcarlson@...> wrote:
Brian,

Aren't there headers on the GMail site that you can use?
David G. Carlson
Marketing / Sales Engineer
RF Timing and Synchronization
dgcarlson@...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Varner" <bvarner05@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 6:23 AM
Subject: placemarker on gmail emails

Hi all,

Does anyone have any suggestions on reading the gmail more
efficiently?  I have been jumping to a line but depending on how many
people are in the address line or how long the subject line is, or a
host of other stuff that differs from message to message, the first
line of the body of the email differs.  Thus, I hear stuff I don't
need to hear before the first line of the body of the email, or, I
jump past the first line.  Using "find" helps sometimes, but it would
be nice to have a placemarker that could be used with some
consistency.

Thanks,
Brian

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Brian Varner <bvarner05@...>

#18708

Hitting the n key (for next element on the page is how I think of that
command) isn't anymore helpful than the h key (for header).  There
needs to be some sort of coding jaws recognizes, like a frame or
something.  I did add a placemarker at the "show original" link, and
will see if that's any quicker.  It seems to be the last link before
the body of the email.   By the way, I am using the html version of
gmail as the standard version is pretty much impossible to use with
jaws 11.

Brian

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On 9/19/13, dennis <dennisc67@...> wrote:
have you tried hitting the n key to jump to the body. this works in other
html email clients that i use.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Varner" <bvarner05@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: placemarker on gmail emails

I've tried that using ctrl-shitf-k but when I open a new email and hit
k, I hear "no place marker found."  I'm using jaws 11.  again, I'm
using gmail (webmail) and need a way to navigate directly to the body
of the text in a new email.

On 9/18/13, David G. Carlson <dgcarlson@...> wrote:
Use the place markers feature to mark the header just before the text of
interest.
David G. Carlson
Marketing / Sales Engineer
RF Timing and Synchronization
dgcarlson@...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Varner" <bvarner05@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: placemarker on gmail emails

Yes, there are headers, just too many.  I counted 9 times hitting h to
take me to the body of your reply.  Then, I tried a header list and
arrowed through that.  I guess I miss outlook express where you just
opened the email message and it popped you into the body of the email.
 Replying to gmail is cumbersome as well, hitting the tab key or arrow
key until you find the body of the email, and when you do find it, you
are at the bottom of the text.  So, to please those who prefer to see
the new text at the top and their old message after my new text, I
ctrl-home to put the cursor at the top of the body of the message.

Also, gmail doesn't include all the previous messages in the thread
when you first open a message someone has replied to.  To see the full
text, there is a "show original" button, but, when you use it, a new
window opens with all the gibberish marking the line breaks and
whatever all that other stuff is I don't need to hear.

Attaching stuff is cumbersome too.  I save music recordings from
chorus rehersal on my digital voice recorder, and sometimes will send
a few tracks to someone who missed a rehersal.  I always end up
hitting "send" before getting the attachment attached.  The prompts
for gmail with jaws are just not very intuitive.

Brian

On 9/18/13, David G. Carlson <dgcarlson@...> wrote:
Brian,

Aren't there headers on the GMail site that you can use?
David G. Carlson
Marketing / Sales Engineer
RF Timing and Synchronization
dgcarlson@...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Varner" <bvarner05@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 6:23 AM
Subject: placemarker on gmail emails

Hi all,

Does anyone have any suggestions on reading the gmail more
efficiently?  I have been jumping to a line but depending on how many
people are in the address line or how long the subject line is, or a
host of other stuff that differs from message to message, the first
line of the body of the email differs.  Thus, I hear stuff I don't
need to hear before the first line of the body of the email, or, I
jump past the first line.  Using "find" helps sometimes, but it would
be nice to have a placemarker that could be used with some
consistency.

Thanks,
Brian

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