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Robert Logue <bobcat11@...> #17263 I'd like to learn more about Jaws utility mode. I couldn't find it in Jaws help. I tried the keyboard combination Jawskey + win +numpad - but nothing happens. I remember they called this something else in older versions. Wasn't it used as a scripting tool? I never did get into Jaws scripting but am a bit curious. Bob toggle quoted message Show quoted text On 6/11/2013 5:07 PM, Soronel Haetir wrote: I know you can change the punctuation level if you have the utility mode on, but I'm not sure what effect that has, exactly. You can try it by: 1) Enter utility mode (jaws + win + mum pad -) 2) Use the up or down arrow keys to change to the punctuation level you want 3) Leave utility mode (jaws + win + num pad -) I just tried the above in a program that I have set to speak all punctuation, changed to none and then had it speak some text. As far as I can tell it didn't make any difference. Yet when I tried the same thing again it remembered the punctuation level I had set, perhaps it only applies the punctuation level to the utility mode. I'm certainly not aware of any other way to change the punctuation level without going through the voice profile screen. On 6/11/13, Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonkeithbiggs@...> wrote: Hello, character's \145 and \146 are defined as &rsquo. I was looking at an asky cheat sheet and both 145 and 146 are defined as an apostrophe. I have no idea how that happened but I think it is wrong. Thanks, Brandon Keith Biggs -----Original Message----- From: Farfar Carlson Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 3:28 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Jaws saying apostrophe too many times Soronel, By the way, isn't there a keystroke to dynamically change the punctuation I have no idea how to fix this. level? I sure can't remember it. And yes, his original message has the apostrophes embedded, but my speech does not read them unless I go character-by-character. Dave Carlson Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@...> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 15:09 Subject: Re: Jaws saying apostrophe too many times Why would that have jaws speak punctuation that isn't actually present though? On 6/11/13, Farfar Carlson <dgcarlson@...> wrote: Your punctuation is set to all or most. You need to set it to some. Dave Carlson Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonkeithbiggs@...> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 14:53 Subject: Jaws saying apostrophe too many times Hello, I think I posted this a while back, but I never figured out how to fix this. In every application, Jaws says Apostrophe too many times. for example 'hello' said john I hear: apostrophe hello Apostrophe Apostrophe said john. What gets really annoying is when you have something like: 'orange' 1 'apple' 2 'pizza' 3. There are way to many Apostrophes in there! Thanks, Brandon Keith Biggs _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com -- Soronel Haetir soronel.haetir@... _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Soronel Haetir #17269 There is some very basic material on the utility mode in the Basics of Scripting manual available at http://www.freedomscientific.com/PDF/visionloss/manuals/Basics_of_Scripting.exe It is under the Windows Program Structure section. And the prior name you are thinking of is "Home Row Utility". toggle quoted message Show quoted text On 6/12/13, Robert Logue <bobcat11@...> wrote: I'd like to learn more about Jaws utility mode. I couldn't find it in Jaws help. I tried the keyboard combination Jawskey + win +numpad - but nothing happens. I remember they called this something else in older versions. Wasn't it used as a scripting tool? I never did get into Jaws scripting but am a bit curious. Bob On 6/11/2013 5:07 PM, Soronel Haetir wrote: I know you can change the punctuation level if you have the utility mode on, but I'm not sure what effect that has, exactly. You can try it by: 1) Enter utility mode (jaws + win + mum pad -) 2) Use the up or down arrow keys to change to the punctuation level you want 3) Leave utility mode (jaws + win + num pad -) I just tried the above in a program that I have set to speak all punctuation, changed to none and then had it speak some text. As far as I can tell it didn't make any difference. Yet when I tried the same thing again it remembered the punctuation level I had set, perhaps it only applies the punctuation level to the utility mode. I'm certainly not aware of any other way to change the punctuation level without going through the voice profile screen. On 6/11/13, Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonkeithbiggs@...> wrote: Hello, character's \145 and \146 are defined as &rsquo. I was looking at an asky cheat sheet and both 145 and 146 are defined as an apostrophe. I have no idea how that happened but I think it is wrong. Thanks, Brandon Keith Biggs -----Original Message----- From: Farfar Carlson Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 3:28 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Jaws saying apostrophe too many times Soronel, By the way, isn't there a keystroke to dynamically change the punctuation I have no idea how to fix this. level? I sure can't remember it. And yes, his original message has the apostrophes embedded, but my speech does not read them unless I go character-by-character. Dave Carlson Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@...> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 15:09 Subject: Re: Jaws saying apostrophe too many times Why would that have jaws speak punctuation that isn't actually present though? On 6/11/13, Farfar Carlson <dgcarlson@...> wrote: Your punctuation is set to all or most. You need to set it to some. Dave Carlson Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonkeithbiggs@...> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 14:53 Subject: Jaws saying apostrophe too many times Hello, I think I posted this a while back, but I never figured out how to fix this. In every application, Jaws says Apostrophe too many times. for example 'hello' said john I hear: apostrophe hello Apostrophe Apostrophe said john. What gets really annoying is when you have something like: 'orange' 1 'apple' 2 'pizza' 3. There are way to many Apostrophes in there! Thanks, Brandon Keith Biggs _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com -- Soronel Haetir soronel.haetir@... _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com -- Soronel Haetir soronel.haetir@...
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Robert Logue <bobcat11@...> #17338 Thank you Soronel. I'll check that material out. Bob toggle quoted message Show quoted text On 6/12/2013 9:20 PM, Soronel Haetir wrote: There is some very basic material on the utility mode in the Basics of Scripting manual available at http://www.freedomscientific.com/PDF/visionloss/manuals/Basics_of_Scripting.exe It is under the Windows Program Structure section. And the prior name you are thinking of is "Home Row Utility". On 6/12/13, Robert Logue <bobcat11@...> wrote: I'd like to learn more about Jaws utility mode. I couldn't find it in Jaws help. I tried the keyboard combination Jawskey + win +numpad - but nothing happens. I remember they called this something else in older versions. Wasn't it used as a scripting tool? I never did get into Jaws scripting but am a bit curious. Bob On 6/11/2013 5:07 PM, Soronel Haetir wrote: I know you can change the punctuation level if you have the utility mode on, but I'm not sure what effect that has, exactly. You can try it by: 1) Enter utility mode (jaws + win + mum pad -) 2) Use the up or down arrow keys to change to the punctuation level you want 3) Leave utility mode (jaws + win + num pad -) I just tried the above in a program that I have set to speak all punctuation, changed to none and then had it speak some text. As far as I can tell it didn't make any difference. Yet when I tried the same thing again it remembered the punctuation level I had set, perhaps it only applies the punctuation level to the utility mode. I'm certainly not aware of any other way to change the punctuation level without going through the voice profile screen. On 6/11/13, Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonkeithbiggs@...> wrote: Hello, character's \145 and \146 are defined as &rsquo. I was looking at an asky cheat sheet and both 145 and 146 are defined as an apostrophe. I have no idea how that happened but I think it is wrong. Thanks, Brandon Keith Biggs -----Original Message----- From: Farfar Carlson Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 3:28 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Jaws saying apostrophe too many times Soronel, By the way, isn't there a keystroke to dynamically change the punctuation I have no idea how to fix this. level? I sure can't remember it. And yes, his original message has the apostrophes embedded, but my speech does not read them unless I go character-by-character. Dave Carlson Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@...> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 15:09 Subject: Re: Jaws saying apostrophe too many times Why would that have jaws speak punctuation that isn't actually present though? On 6/11/13, Farfar Carlson <dgcarlson@...> wrote: Your punctuation is set to all or most. You need to set it to some. Dave Carlson Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonkeithbiggs@...> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 14:53 Subject: Jaws saying apostrophe too many times Hello, I think I posted this a while back, but I never figured out how to fix this. In every application, Jaws says Apostrophe too many times. for example 'hello' said john I hear: apostrophe hello Apostrophe Apostrophe said john. What gets really annoying is when you have something like: 'orange' 1 'apple' 2 'pizza' 3. There are way to many Apostrophes in there! Thanks, Brandon Keith Biggs _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com -- Soronel Haetir soronel.haetir@... _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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