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No problem, Dave. I should have checked my saved JAWS discs before posting
from memory. It's nice to know that in this case, memory didn't fail me. As
Soronel wrote, we were both right.
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-----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Dave Durber Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 10:40 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Blatant Rant Adrian: Thank you for correcting me. If I remember correctly, I purchased an SMA when I upgraded to version 4.5 from the previous version. This is probably why I received the authorization CD and the printed and brailled copies of the code with version 7, which is when I next had to upgrade my SMA. Apologies to James, for saying what he wrote was misleading information. Sincerely: Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 10:25 AM Subject: RE: Blatant Rant Soronel and Dave,
I hate to clutter the list with an obscure point, but for the record,
you're
right, Soronel. Dave's message finally prompted me to get off my computer
chair and walk to the room where I keep my relevant JAWS discs. They are
JAWS 6, 13 and 14. JAWS 6 has the extra CD and the brailled authorization
code. I'm confident this was the first release with the then new JAWS
authorization system because I've been buying JAWS since version 2.
The authorization disc makes authorizing simple. I hope FS would supply
replacement authorization discs to anyone who has neglected to keep it.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Soronel
Haetir
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 9:19 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Blatant Rant
It depends on the version of jaws you started with so you are likely
both right. When you first purchase jaws you get a multiple CD pack
(mine is a tri fold but I don't know if people who first buy jaws now
get that or something else), one of which is the authorization disc so
that people who can't see can still perform the authorization. After
that however FreedomScientific only sends out single update discs as
part of the SMA process (maybe you get the multi-pack if your SMA
lapses, I haven't let that happen so don't know).
On 3/26/13, Dave Durber <d.durber@...> wrote:
Adrian:
Not to be picky, it was JFW, version 7.
I know this, because I had to authorize JAWS for a new Windows installation
the other day.
In fact, the authorization process was performed automatically, when you
inserted the Authorization CD and, all you had to do was press the SPACE
BAR
or press ENTER to activate the OK buttton, when the process was finished.
HTH
Sincerely:
Dave Durber
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 10:20 AM
Subject: RE: Blatant Rant
If I'm not mistaken, the authorization number and extra CD came with
JAWS
6.0. I've kept that version around here for that reason. I hope FS
provides
this info and CD whenever someone signs up for the first time. But I
agree,
we shouldn't have to rely on the packaging of a JAWS release from seven
versions ago, nor should we have to wait through a whole weekend to
obtain
such basic information.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Steve
Matzura
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 8:38 AM
To: jfw
Subject: Blatant Rant
I went to register JAWS yesterday and made a startling and annoying
discovery. In order to register and license your copy of JAWS using
the Internet License Management facility, you need an authorization
number which, according to Freedom Scientific's FS activation page, in
both print and braille on the sleeve of the installation program CD.
OH yeah? Then the dots must be hidden, and the print is either
white-on-white or black-on-black, because nobody in my house, blind or
not, could find such a thing, and we looked on two different versions
that came in two different packages.
I suspect that what's really going on here is that somewhere, way back
when I first got JAWS with the serial number I'm currently using,
which was new for version 4.0 which was the first one to run on
Windows NT and above, the box it came in definitely did have an
authorization number on a stick-on braille label. Of course, 4.0 is
long, long ago, and so is the packaging in which it came. Since then,
I'm sure when updates come out, they are delivered directly from the
company that stamps out and packages the distribution CD's, so they
can't possibly be personalized with your very own authorization
number. If that's correct, where are we supposed to find this thing?
Inquiring minds wanna know, and answers will be gotten tomorrow
morning when FS technical support opens for business.
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Adrian:
Thank you for correcting me.
If I remember correctly, I purchased an SMA when I upgraded to version 4.5 from the previous version. This is probably why I received the authorization CD and the printed and brailled copies of the code with version 7, which is when I next had to upgrade my SMA.
Apologies to James, for saying what he wrote was misleading information.
Sincerely:
Dave Durber
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 10:25 AM Subject: RE: Blatant Rant Soronel and Dave,
I hate to clutter the list with an obscure point, but for the record, you're
right, Soronel. Dave's message finally prompted me to get off my computer
chair and walk to the room where I keep my relevant JAWS discs. They are
JAWS 6, 13 and 14. JAWS 6 has the extra CD and the brailled authorization
code. I'm confident this was the first release with the then new JAWS
authorization system because I've been buying JAWS since version 2.
The authorization disc makes authorizing simple. I hope FS would supply
replacement authorization discs to anyone who has neglected to keep it.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 9:19 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Blatant Rant
It depends on the version of jaws you started with so you are likely
both right. When you first purchase jaws you get a multiple CD pack
(mine is a tri fold but I don't know if people who first buy jaws now
get that or something else), one of which is the authorization disc so
that people who can't see can still perform the authorization. After
that however FreedomScientific only sends out single update discs as
part of the SMA process (maybe you get the multi-pack if your SMA
lapses, I haven't let that happen so don't know).
On 3/26/13, Dave Durber <d.durber@...> wrote:
Adrian:
Not to be picky, it was JFW, version 7.
I know this, because I had to authorize JAWS for a new Windows installation
the other day.
In fact, the authorization process was performed automatically, when you
inserted the Authorization CD and, all you had to do was press the SPACE
BAR
or press ENTER to activate the OK buttton, when the process was finished.
HTH
Sincerely:
Dave Durber
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 10:20 AM
Subject: RE: Blatant Rant
If I'm not mistaken, the authorization number and extra CD came with JAWS
6.0. I've kept that version around here for that reason. I hope FS
provides
this info and CD whenever someone signs up for the first time. But I
agree,
we shouldn't have to rely on the packaging of a JAWS release from seven
versions ago, nor should we have to wait through a whole weekend to
obtain
such basic information.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Steve
Matzura
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 8:38 AM
To: jfw
Subject: Blatant Rant
I went to register JAWS yesterday and made a startling and annoying
discovery. In order to register and license your copy of JAWS using
the Internet License Management facility, you need an authorization
number which, according to Freedom Scientific's FS activation page, in
both print and braille on the sleeve of the installation program CD.
OH yeah? Then the dots must be hidden, and the print is either
white-on-white or black-on-black, because nobody in my house, blind or
not, could find such a thing, and we looked on two different versions
that came in two different packages.
I suspect that what's really going on here is that somewhere, way back
when I first got JAWS with the serial number I'm currently using,
which was new for version 4.0 which was the first one to run on
Windows NT and above, the box it came in definitely did have an
authorization number on a stick-on braille label. Of course, 4.0 is
long, long ago, and so is the packaging in which it came. Since then,
I'm sure when updates come out, they are delivered directly from the
company that stamps out and packages the distribution CD's, so they
can't possibly be personalized with your very own authorization
number. If that's correct, where are we supposed to find this thing?
Inquiring minds wanna know, and answers will be gotten tomorrow
morning when FS technical support opens for business.
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Hi,
They probably would give you an authorization CD if you request it, for a fee, of course.
Oh yeah, and by the way, I've allowed my SMA to lapse at least once or twice over the years since I got version 6.0, and my authorization code is still the same.
Tom
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 7:25 AM Subject: RE: Blatant Rant Soronel and Dave,
I hate to clutter the list with an obscure point, but for the record, you're
right, Soronel. Dave's message finally prompted me to get off my computer
chair and walk to the room where I keep my relevant JAWS discs. They are
JAWS 6, 13 and 14. JAWS 6 has the extra CD and the brailled authorization
code. I'm confident this was the first release with the then new JAWS
authorization system because I've been buying JAWS since version 2.
The authorization disc makes authorizing simple. I hope FS would supply
replacement authorization discs to anyone who has neglected to keep it.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 9:19 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Blatant Rant
It depends on the version of jaws you started with so you are likely
both right. When you first purchase jaws you get a multiple CD pack
(mine is a tri fold but I don't know if people who first buy jaws now
get that or something else), one of which is the authorization disc so
that people who can't see can still perform the authorization. After
that however FreedomScientific only sends out single update discs as
part of the SMA process (maybe you get the multi-pack if your SMA
lapses, I haven't let that happen so don't know).
On 3/26/13, Dave Durber <d.durber@...> wrote:
Adrian:
Not to be picky, it was JFW, version 7.
I know this, because I had to authorize JAWS for a new Windows installation
the other day.
In fact, the authorization process was performed automatically, when you
inserted the Authorization CD and, all you had to do was press the SPACE
BAR
or press ENTER to activate the OK buttton, when the process was finished.
HTH
Sincerely:
Dave Durber
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 10:20 AM
Subject: RE: Blatant Rant
If I'm not mistaken, the authorization number and extra CD came with JAWS
6.0. I've kept that version around here for that reason. I hope FS
provides
this info and CD whenever someone signs up for the first time. But I
agree,
we shouldn't have to rely on the packaging of a JAWS release from seven
versions ago, nor should we have to wait through a whole weekend to
obtain
such basic information.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Steve
Matzura
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 8:38 AM
To: jfw
Subject: Blatant Rant
I went to register JAWS yesterday and made a startling and annoying
discovery. In order to register and license your copy of JAWS using
the Internet License Management facility, you need an authorization
number which, according to Freedom Scientific's FS activation page, in
both print and braille on the sleeve of the installation program CD.
OH yeah? Then the dots must be hidden, and the print is either
white-on-white or black-on-black, because nobody in my house, blind or
not, could find such a thing, and we looked on two different versions
that came in two different packages.
I suspect that what's really going on here is that somewhere, way back
when I first got JAWS with the serial number I'm currently using,
which was new for version 4.0 which was the first one to run on
Windows NT and above, the box it came in definitely did have an
authorization number on a stick-on braille label. Of course, 4.0 is
long, long ago, and so is the packaging in which it came. Since then,
I'm sure when updates come out, they are delivered directly from the
company that stamps out and packages the distribution CD's, so they
can't possibly be personalized with your very own authorization
number. If that's correct, where are we supposed to find this thing?
Inquiring minds wanna know, and answers will be gotten tomorrow
morning when FS technical support opens for business.
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I stand corrected. It might just be if you don't have any of your current
information, then. I wouldn't know, as I've never been too far from at the
very least my serial number.
James,
List Admin
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-----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Dave Durber Sent: March 26, 2013 9:29 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Blatant Rant James: This is misleading information. When I had version 9, I did not update my version of JAWS until version 12 was released. and, at the same time, I purchased an SMA for the next two versions. At the time I purchased the upgrades, I was not given a new 20 digit code by the sales representative at Freedom Scientific. So, therefore, I am using the original 20 digit code Freedom Scientific issued to me when they released and sent me version 7. HTH Sincerely: Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Homuth" <james@...> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 2:30 PM Subject: RE: Blatant Rant Your authorization number only changes in the event you've let your SMA
lapse and need a new one. If you renew your existing one, you keep the
same
serial number and authorization number. I've had mine since I'm not
entirely
sure when and it's never changed. As for the authorization number, I think
FS will provide that to you over the phone if you ask for it. At least,
they
used to. That's kind of a non-issue over here since it's stored in a text
file, and that text file's in 5 or 6 different places, but I believe
that's
how I obtained it since, like you, I didn't keep the old install package
from a version of JAWS that was forever and a half ago, and I know I've
changed computers etc since then.
James,
List Admin
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Adrian
Spratt
Sent: March 24, 2013 2:25 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Blatant Rant
Different issue, Aidan. You're quite right that the number doesn't change.
I'm only agreeing with what I take to be Steve's point that we need
occasional reminders, such as each time a new version is shipped. I bet
most
JAWS users have trashed their old JAWS CD/DVD packages without remembering
that 6.0 had both a braille record of the authorization number and the
authorization disc.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Aidan Maher
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 10:26 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Blatant Rant
As far as I get it, you will only get a new number once you either
upgrade, or once you get a new SMA. So if you have a active SMA wich
run for 2 years, then after 1 year, you will not get a new number
because the SMA is stil running. So the 20 digit number only change
when you upgrrade or renew SMA.
On 24/03/2013, Adrian Spratt <Adrian@...> wrote:
If I'm not mistaken, the authorization number and extra CD came with JAWS
6.0. I've kept that version around here for that reason. I hope FS provides
this info and CD whenever someone signs up for the first time. But I agree,
we shouldn't have to rely on the packaging of a JAWS release from seven
versions ago, nor should we have to wait through a whole weekend to
obtain
such basic information.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 8:38 AM
To: jfw
Subject: Blatant Rant
I went to register JAWS yesterday and made a startling and annoying
discovery. In order to register and license your copy of JAWS using
the Internet License Management facility, you need an authorization
number which, according to Freedom Scientific's FS activation page, in
both print and braille on the sleeve of the installation program CD.
OH yeah? Then the dots must be hidden, and the print is either
white-on-white or black-on-black, because nobody in my house, blind or
not, could find such a thing, and we looked on two different versions
that came in two different packages.
I suspect that what's really going on here is that somewhere, way back
when I first got JAWS with the serial number I'm currently using,
which was new for version 4.0 which was the first one to run on
Windows NT and above, the box it came in definitely did have an
authorization number on a stick-on braille label. Of course, 4.0 is
long, long ago, and so is the packaging in which it came. Since then,
I'm sure when updates come out, they are delivered directly from the
company that stamps out and packages the distribution CD's, so they
can't possibly be personalized with your very own authorization
number. If that's correct, where are we supposed to find this thing?
Inquiring minds wanna know, and answers will be gotten tomorrow
morning when FS technical support opens for business.
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When you come right down to it, the SMA always expires before I purchase a new one. I mean, that's the whole point. Admittedly, this time I'm later than I've ever been, but our purchasing folks and I are now getting it together. I didn't' see the form last year, simple as that.
Ted
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-----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Dave Durber Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 9:29 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Blatant Rant James: This is misleading information. When I had version 9, I did not update my version of JAWS until version 12 was released. and, at the same time, I purchased an SMA for the next two versions. At the time I purchased the upgrades, I was not given a new 20 digit code by the sales representative at Freedom Scientific. So, therefore, I am using the original 20 digit code Freedom Scientific issued to me when they released and sent me version 7. HTH Sincerely: Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Homuth" <james@...> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 2:30 PM Subject: RE: Blatant Rant Your authorization number only changes in the event you've let your SMA
lapse and need a new one. If you renew your existing one, you keep the
same
serial number and authorization number. I've had mine since I'm not
entirely
sure when and it's never changed. As for the authorization number, I think
FS will provide that to you over the phone if you ask for it. At least,
they
used to. That's kind of a non-issue over here since it's stored in a text
file, and that text file's in 5 or 6 different places, but I believe
that's
how I obtained it since, like you, I didn't keep the old install package
from a version of JAWS that was forever and a half ago, and I know I've
changed computers etc since then.
James,
List Admin
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Adrian
Spratt
Sent: March 24, 2013 2:25 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Blatant Rant
Different issue, Aidan. You're quite right that the number doesn't change.
I'm only agreeing with what I take to be Steve's point that we need
occasional reminders, such as each time a new version is shipped. I bet
most
JAWS users have trashed their old JAWS CD/DVD packages without remembering
that 6.0 had both a braille record of the authorization number and the
authorization disc.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Aidan Maher
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 10:26 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Blatant Rant
As far as I get it, you will only get a new number once you either
upgrade, or once you get a new SMA. So if you have a active SMA wich
run for 2 years, then after 1 year, you will not get a new number
because the SMA is stil running. So the 20 digit number only change
when you upgrrade or renew SMA.
On 24/03/2013, Adrian Spratt <Adrian@...> wrote:
If I'm not mistaken, the authorization number and extra CD came with JAWS
6.0. I've kept that version around here for that reason. I hope FS provides
this info and CD whenever someone signs up for the first time. But I agree,
we shouldn't have to rely on the packaging of a JAWS release from seven
versions ago, nor should we have to wait through a whole weekend to
obtain
such basic information.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 8:38 AM
To: jfw
Subject: Blatant Rant
I went to register JAWS yesterday and made a startling and annoying
discovery. In order to register and license your copy of JAWS using
the Internet License Management facility, you need an authorization
number which, according to Freedom Scientific's FS activation page, in
both print and braille on the sleeve of the installation program CD.
OH yeah? Then the dots must be hidden, and the print is either
white-on-white or black-on-black, because nobody in my house, blind or
not, could find such a thing, and we looked on two different versions
that came in two different packages.
I suspect that what's really going on here is that somewhere, way back
when I first got JAWS with the serial number I'm currently using,
which was new for version 4.0 which was the first one to run on
Windows NT and above, the box it came in definitely did have an
authorization number on a stick-on braille label. Of course, 4.0 is
long, long ago, and so is the packaging in which it came. Since then,
I'm sure when updates come out, they are delivered directly from the
company that stamps out and packages the distribution CD's, so they
can't possibly be personalized with your very own authorization
number. If that's correct, where are we supposed to find this thing?
Inquiring minds wanna know, and answers will be gotten tomorrow
morning when FS technical support opens for business.
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Soronel and Dave,
I hate to clutter the list with an obscure point, but for the record, you're
right, Soronel. Dave's message finally prompted me to get off my computer
chair and walk to the room where I keep my relevant JAWS discs. They are
JAWS 6, 13 and 14. JAWS 6 has the extra CD and the brailled authorization
code. I'm confident this was the first release with the then new JAWS
authorization system because I've been buying JAWS since version 2.
The authorization disc makes authorizing simple. I hope FS would supply
replacement authorization discs to anyone who has neglected to keep it.
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-----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 9:19 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Blatant Rant It depends on the version of jaws you started with so you are likely both right. When you first purchase jaws you get a multiple CD pack (mine is a tri fold but I don't know if people who first buy jaws now get that or something else), one of which is the authorization disc so that people who can't see can still perform the authorization. After that however FreedomScientific only sends out single update discs as part of the SMA process (maybe you get the multi-pack if your SMA lapses, I haven't let that happen so don't know). On 3/26/13, Dave Durber <d.durber@...> wrote: Adrian:
Not to be picky, it was JFW, version 7.
I know this, because I had to authorize JAWS for a new Windows installation
the other day.
In fact, the authorization process was performed automatically, when you
inserted the Authorization CD and, all you had to do was press the SPACE
BAR
or press ENTER to activate the OK buttton, when the process was finished.
HTH
Sincerely:
Dave Durber
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 10:20 AM
Subject: RE: Blatant Rant
If I'm not mistaken, the authorization number and extra CD came with JAWS
6.0. I've kept that version around here for that reason. I hope FS
provides
this info and CD whenever someone signs up for the first time. But I
agree,
we shouldn't have to rely on the packaging of a JAWS release from seven
versions ago, nor should we have to wait through a whole weekend to
obtain
such basic information.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Steve
Matzura
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 8:38 AM
To: jfw
Subject: Blatant Rant
I went to register JAWS yesterday and made a startling and annoying
discovery. In order to register and license your copy of JAWS using
the Internet License Management facility, you need an authorization
number which, according to Freedom Scientific's FS activation page, in
both print and braille on the sleeve of the installation program CD.
OH yeah? Then the dots must be hidden, and the print is either
white-on-white or black-on-black, because nobody in my house, blind or
not, could find such a thing, and we looked on two different versions
that came in two different packages.
I suspect that what's really going on here is that somewhere, way back
when I first got JAWS with the serial number I'm currently using,
which was new for version 4.0 which was the first one to run on
Windows NT and above, the box it came in definitely did have an
authorization number on a stick-on braille label. Of course, 4.0 is
long, long ago, and so is the packaging in which it came. Since then,
I'm sure when updates come out, they are delivered directly from the
company that stamps out and packages the distribution CD's, so they
can't possibly be personalized with your very own authorization
number. If that's correct, where are we supposed to find this thing?
Inquiring minds wanna know, and answers will be gotten tomorrow
morning when FS technical support opens for business.
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James:
This is misleading information.
When I had version 9, I did not update my version of JAWS until version 12 was released. and, at the same time, I purchased an SMA for the next two versions.
At the time I purchased the upgrades, I was not given a new 20 digit code by the sales representative at Freedom Scientific. So, therefore, I am using the original 20 digit code Freedom Scientific issued to me when they released and sent me version 7.
HTH
Sincerely:
Dave Durber
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----- Original Message ----- From: "James Homuth" <james@...> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 2:30 PM Subject: RE: Blatant Rant Your authorization number only changes in the event you've let your SMA
lapse and need a new one. If you renew your existing one, you keep the same
serial number and authorization number. I've had mine since I'm not entirely
sure when and it's never changed. As for the authorization number, I think
FS will provide that to you over the phone if you ask for it. At least, they
used to. That's kind of a non-issue over here since it's stored in a text
file, and that text file's in 5 or 6 different places, but I believe that's
how I obtained it since, like you, I didn't keep the old install package
from a version of JAWS that was forever and a half ago, and I know I've
changed computers etc since then.
James,
List Admin
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: March 24, 2013 2:25 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Blatant Rant
Different issue, Aidan. You're quite right that the number doesn't change.
I'm only agreeing with what I take to be Steve's point that we need
occasional reminders, such as each time a new version is shipped. I bet most
JAWS users have trashed their old JAWS CD/DVD packages without remembering
that 6.0 had both a braille record of the authorization number and the
authorization disc.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Aidan Maher
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 10:26 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Blatant Rant
As far as I get it, you will only get a new number once you either
upgrade, or once you get a new SMA. So if you have a active SMA wich
run for 2 years, then after 1 year, you will not get a new number
because the SMA is stil running. So the 20 digit number only change
when you upgrrade or renew SMA.
On 24/03/2013, Adrian Spratt <Adrian@...> wrote:
If I'm not mistaken, the authorization number and extra CD came with JAWS
6.0. I've kept that version around here for that reason. I hope FS provides
this info and CD whenever someone signs up for the first time. But I agree,
we shouldn't have to rely on the packaging of a JAWS release from seven
versions ago, nor should we have to wait through a whole weekend to obtain
such basic information.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 8:38 AM
To: jfw
Subject: Blatant Rant
I went to register JAWS yesterday and made a startling and annoying
discovery. In order to register and license your copy of JAWS using
the Internet License Management facility, you need an authorization
number which, according to Freedom Scientific's FS activation page, in
both print and braille on the sleeve of the installation program CD.
OH yeah? Then the dots must be hidden, and the print is either
white-on-white or black-on-black, because nobody in my house, blind or
not, could find such a thing, and we looked on two different versions
that came in two different packages.
I suspect that what's really going on here is that somewhere, way back
when I first got JAWS with the serial number I'm currently using,
which was new for version 4.0 which was the first one to run on
Windows NT and above, the box it came in definitely did have an
authorization number on a stick-on braille label. Of course, 4.0 is
long, long ago, and so is the packaging in which it came. Since then,
I'm sure when updates come out, they are delivered directly from the
company that stamps out and packages the distribution CD's, so they
can't possibly be personalized with your very own authorization
number. If that's correct, where are we supposed to find this thing?
Inquiring minds wanna know, and answers will be gotten tomorrow
morning when FS technical support opens for business.
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It depends on the version of jaws you started with so you are likely
both right. When you first purchase jaws you get a multiple CD pack
(mine is a tri fold but I don't know if people who first buy jaws now
get that or something else), one of which is the authorization disc so
that people who can't see can still perform the authorization. After
that however FreedomScientific only sends out single update discs as
part of the SMA process (maybe you get the multi-pack if your SMA
lapses, I haven't let that happen so don't know).
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On 3/26/13, Dave Durber <d.durber@...> wrote: Adrian:
Not to be picky, it was JFW, version 7.
I know this, because I had to authorize JAWS for a new Windows installation
the other day.
In fact, the authorization process was performed automatically, when you
inserted the Authorization CD and, all you had to do was press the SPACE BAR
or press ENTER to activate the OK buttton, when the process was finished.
HTH
Sincerely:
Dave Durber
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 10:20 AM
Subject: RE: Blatant Rant
If I'm not mistaken, the authorization number and extra CD came with JAWS
6.0. I've kept that version around here for that reason. I hope FS
provides
this info and CD whenever someone signs up for the first time. But I
agree,
we shouldn't have to rely on the packaging of a JAWS release from seven
versions ago, nor should we have to wait through a whole weekend to
obtain
such basic information.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Steve
Matzura
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 8:38 AM
To: jfw
Subject: Blatant Rant
I went to register JAWS yesterday and made a startling and annoying
discovery. In order to register and license your copy of JAWS using
the Internet License Management facility, you need an authorization
number which, according to Freedom Scientific's FS activation page, in
both print and braille on the sleeve of the installation program CD.
OH yeah? Then the dots must be hidden, and the print is either
white-on-white or black-on-black, because nobody in my house, blind or
not, could find such a thing, and we looked on two different versions
that came in two different packages.
I suspect that what's really going on here is that somewhere, way back
when I first got JAWS with the serial number I'm currently using,
which was new for version 4.0 which was the first one to run on
Windows NT and above, the box it came in definitely did have an
authorization number on a stick-on braille label. Of course, 4.0 is
long, long ago, and so is the packaging in which it came. Since then,
I'm sure when updates come out, they are delivered directly from the
company that stamps out and packages the distribution CD's, so they
can't possibly be personalized with your very own authorization
number. If that's correct, where are we supposed to find this thing?
Inquiring minds wanna know, and answers will be gotten tomorrow
morning when FS technical support opens for business.
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Hello Aiden:
You get the 20 digit code on the day that JAWS is purchased. That 20 number stays with that licensed copy of JAWS. It does not change.
Freedom Scientific began issuing the 20 digit codes, when they switched from the old licensing management scheme, to the Internet License Management (ILM) scheme, starting with version 7.
HTH
Sincerely:
Dave Durber
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Aidan Maher" <aidan.smarttalk@...> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 10:25 AM Subject: Re: Blatant Rant As far as I get it, you will only get a new number once you either
upgrade, or once you get a new SMA. So if you have a active SMA wich
run for 2 years, then after 1 year, you will not get a new number
because the SMA is stil running. So the 20 digit number only change
when you upgrrade or renew SMA.
On 24/03/2013, Adrian Spratt <Adrian@...> wrote:
If I'm not mistaken, the authorization number and extra CD came with JAWS
6.0. I've kept that version around here for that reason. I hope FS provides
this info and CD whenever someone signs up for the first time. But I agree,
we shouldn't have to rely on the packaging of a JAWS release from seven
versions ago, nor should we have to wait through a whole weekend to obtain
such basic information.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 8:38 AM
To: jfw
Subject: Blatant Rant
I went to register JAWS yesterday and made a startling and annoying
discovery. In order to register and license your copy of JAWS using
the Internet License Management facility, you need an authorization
number which, according to Freedom Scientific's FS activation page, in
both print and braille on the sleeve of the installation program CD.
OH yeah? Then the dots must be hidden, and the print is either
white-on-white or black-on-black, because nobody in my house, blind or
not, could find such a thing, and we looked on two different versions
that came in two different packages.
I suspect that what's really going on here is that somewhere, way back
when I first got JAWS with the serial number I'm currently using,
which was new for version 4.0 which was the first one to run on
Windows NT and above, the box it came in definitely did have an
authorization number on a stick-on braille label. Of course, 4.0 is
long, long ago, and so is the packaging in which it came. Since then,
I'm sure when updates come out, they are delivered directly from the
company that stamps out and packages the distribution CD's, so they
can't possibly be personalized with your very own authorization
number. If that's correct, where are we supposed to find this thing?
Inquiring minds wanna know, and answers will be gotten tomorrow
morning when FS technical support opens for business.
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Adrian:
Not to be picky, it was JFW, version 7.
I know this, because I had to authorize JAWS for a new Windows installation the other day.
In fact, the authorization process was performed automatically, when you inserted the Authorization CD and, all you had to do was press the SPACE BAR or press ENTER to activate the OK buttton, when the process was finished.
HTH
Sincerely:
Dave Durber
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 10:20 AM Subject: RE: Blatant Rant If I'm not mistaken, the authorization number and extra CD came with JAWS
6.0. I've kept that version around here for that reason. I hope FS provides
this info and CD whenever someone signs up for the first time. But I agree,
we shouldn't have to rely on the packaging of a JAWS release from seven
versions ago, nor should we have to wait through a whole weekend to obtain
such basic information.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 8:38 AM
To: jfw
Subject: Blatant Rant
I went to register JAWS yesterday and made a startling and annoying
discovery. In order to register and license your copy of JAWS using
the Internet License Management facility, you need an authorization
number which, according to Freedom Scientific's FS activation page, in
both print and braille on the sleeve of the installation program CD.
OH yeah? Then the dots must be hidden, and the print is either
white-on-white or black-on-black, because nobody in my house, blind or
not, could find such a thing, and we looked on two different versions
that came in two different packages.
I suspect that what's really going on here is that somewhere, way back
when I first got JAWS with the serial number I'm currently using,
which was new for version 4.0 which was the first one to run on
Windows NT and above, the box it came in definitely did have an
authorization number on a stick-on braille label. Of course, 4.0 is
long, long ago, and so is the packaging in which it came. Since then,
I'm sure when updates come out, they are delivered directly from the
company that stamps out and packages the distribution CD's, so they
can't possibly be personalized with your very own authorization
number. If that's correct, where are we supposed to find this thing?
Inquiring minds wanna know, and answers will be gotten tomorrow
morning when FS technical support opens for business.
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Jfw mailing list
Jfw@...
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I'm not sure about the locking code, but the auth number does not change. If you're doing a new installation on a JAWS machine, you don't need the CD, as the auth code is already on the drive. When you start fresh, you need either the CD, or a text string that can be pasted into the provided box.
Ted
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-----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Aidan Maher Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 10:26 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Blatant Rant As far as I get it, you will only get a new number once you either upgrade, or once you get a new SMA. So if you have a active SMA wich run for 2 years, then after 1 year, you will not get a new number because the SMA is stil running. So the 20 digit number only change when you upgrrade or renew SMA. On 24/03/2013, Adrian Spratt <Adrian@...> wrote: If I'm not mistaken, the authorization number and extra CD came with
JAWS 6.0. I've kept that version around here for that reason. I hope
FS provides this info and CD whenever someone signs up for the first
time. But I agree, we shouldn't have to rely on the packaging of a
JAWS release from seven versions ago, nor should we have to wait
through a whole weekend to obtain such basic information.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Steve
Matzura
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 8:38 AM
To: jfw
Subject: Blatant Rant
I went to register JAWS yesterday and made a startling and annoying
discovery. In order to register and license your copy of JAWS using
the Internet License Management facility, you need an authorization
number which, according to Freedom Scientific's FS activation page, in
both print and braille on the sleeve of the installation program CD.
OH yeah? Then the dots must be hidden, and the print is either
white-on-white or black-on-black, because nobody in my house, blind or
not, could find such a thing, and we looked on two different versions
that came in two different packages.
I suspect that what's really going on here is that somewhere, way back
when I first got JAWS with the serial number I'm currently using,
which was new for version 4.0 which was the first one to run on
Windows NT and above, the box it came in definitely did have an
authorization number on a stick-on braille label. Of course, 4.0 is
long, long ago, and so is the packaging in which it came. Since then,
I'm sure when updates come out, they are delivered directly from the
company that stamps out and packages the distribution CD's, so they
can't possibly be personalized with your very own authorization
number. If that's correct, where are we supposed to find this thing?
Inquiring minds wanna know, and answers will be gotten tomorrow
morning when FS technical support opens for business.
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And of course, that was back in the good old days when computers actually
came with floppy drives as a standard feature. You'll note today most of
them don't. Also yes, if you've authorized a computer before or you have the
CD handy, it will remember your code. But if you don't have your CD and it's
a new machine that's never seen the light of JAWS, well, then you've got a
problem.
James,
List Admin
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-----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Cy Selfridge Sent: March 25, 2013 2:00 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: Blatant Rant Hmm, I have always just told JAWS to confirm my authorization on-line and didn't have to mess with that idiot long number/. Somehow this whole authorization scheme really sucks. Back in the good old days you had a disk with the blamed code on it and you knew how many codes you had on it. You could remove the code from the computer and put it back on the "floppy" when you were going to do things which would probably wipe out your code. Cy -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 11:31 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Blatant Rant Steve, And of course, you'll write this number into a text file that you can find in the future, correct? Dave Carlson Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Matzura" <number6@...> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 05:44 Subject: Re: Blatant Rant Exactly my plan. I was discussing this with another local JAWS user, and we both agreed we haven't seen that number on any packaging since versiion 7. On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 06:32:30 -0700, you wrote: Since you didn't record that number in a file somewhere, you will need to
wait until tomorrow, when you can call FS and ask them.
Annoying, but resolved with keeping a list of all your relevant
authorization, CD key, serial numbers, etc. in a text file somewhere.
Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit
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From: "Steve Matzura" <number6@...>
To: "jfw" <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 05:38
Subject: Blatant Rant
I went to register JAWS yesterday and made a startling and annoying
discovery. In order to register and license your copy of JAWS using
the Internet License Management facility, you need an authorization
number which, according to Freedom Scientific's FS activation page, in
both print and braille on the sleeve of the installation program CD.
OH yeah? Then the dots must be hidden, and the print is either
white-on-white or black-on-black, because nobody in my house, blind or
not, could find such a thing, and we looked on two different versions
that came in two different packages.
I suspect that what's really going on here is that somewhere, way back
when I first got JAWS with the serial number I'm currently using,
which was new for version 4.0 which was the first one to run on
Windows NT and above, the box it came in definitely did have an
authorization number on a stick-on braille label. Of course, 4.0 is
long, long ago, and so is the packaging in which it came. Since then,
I'm sure when updates come out, they are delivered directly from the
company that stamps out and packages the distribution CD's, so they
can't possibly be personalized with your very own authorization
number. If that's correct, where are we supposed to find this thing?
Inquiring minds wanna know, and answers will be gotten tomorrow
morning when FS technical support opens for business.
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It very likely is in the registry somewhere, but if FS is being smart about
it, it's encripted. So assuming you can figure out the variable that's
housing it, that's about as far as you're getting. Remember it's also used
to retrieve a license code that's 1: at least 100 characters long and 2: is
already I believe also encripted, so that would actually make something
vaguely resembling sense.
James,
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-----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura Sent: March 25, 2013 3:07 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Blatant Rant I got the ID, and it is not in the registry stored as plain text. It might just be stored as numeric strings represented by the base10 versions of the hex digits. I'm frankly not that interested in this spelunking expedition, I'm just glad I have the information now. On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 08:44:19 -0400, you wrote: Tom, I said the same thing last night to my local JAWS-using friend. I
have now spent over half an hour trying to find it and have come up
empty-handed. I don't know if it's obfuscated, or I'm just not looking
for the right thing. Either way, I'm off to get the info I need from
the horse's mouth. Then maybe I'll search the registry for that
specific piece of information. If I find it, I'll let you know where
it can be found in there.
On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 10:16:29 -0700, you wrote:
Hi,
I'd be willing to bet that the full 20-character authorization key is somewhere in the Registry, and that there's got to be some way to find it if you're (a) knowledgeable about navigating it and (b) willing to do some digging. That information should be stored in some sort of registry variable and, if so, using regedit's search capability should let you find it. Can any of you out there confirm this?
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On Mar 24, 2013, at 7:20 AM, Adrian Spratt <Adrian@...>
wrote:
If I'm not mistaken, the authorization number and extra CD came with
JAWS 6.0. I've kept that version around here for that reason. I hope FS
provides this info and CD whenever someone signs up for the first time. But I
agree, we shouldn't have to rely on the packaging of a JAWS release from seven
versions ago, nor should we have to wait through a whole weekend to
obtain such basic information.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Steve
Matzura Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 8:38 AM
To: jfw
Subject: Blatant Rant
I went to register JAWS yesterday and made a startling and annoying
discovery. In order to register and license your copy of JAWS using
the Internet License Management facility, you need an authorization
number which, according to Freedom Scientific's FS activation page, in
both print and braille on the sleeve of the installation program CD.
OH yeah? Then the dots must be hidden, and the print is either
white-on-white or black-on-black, because nobody in my house, blind or
not, could find such a thing, and we looked on two different versions
that came in two different packages.
I suspect that what's really going on here is that somewhere, way back
when I first got JAWS with the serial number I'm currently using,
which was new for version 4.0 which was the first one to run on
Windows NT and above, the box it came in definitely did have an
authorization number on a stick-on braille label. Of course, 4.0 is
long, long ago, and so is the packaging in which it came. Since then,
I'm sure when updates come out, they are delivered directly from the
company that stamps out and packages the distribution CD's, so they
can't possibly be personalized with your very own authorization
number. If that's correct, where are we supposed to find this thing?
Inquiring minds wanna know, and answers will be gotten tomorrow
morning when FS technical support opens for business.
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I got the ID, and it is not in the registry stored as plain text. It
might just be stored as numeric strings represented by the base10
versions of the hex digits. I'm frankly not that interested in this
spelunking expedition, I'm just glad I have the information now.
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On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 08:44:19 -0400, you wrote: Tom, I said the same thing last night to my local JAWS-using friend. I
have now spent over half an hour trying to find it and have come up
empty-handed. I don't know if it's obfuscated, or I'm just not looking
for the right thing. Either way, I'm off to get the info I need from
the horse's mouth. Then maybe I'll search the registry for that
specific piece of information. If I find it, I'll let you know where
it can be found in there.
On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 10:16:29 -0700, you wrote:
Hi,
I'd be willing to bet that the full 20-character authorization key is somewhere in the Registry, and that there's got to be some way to find it if you're (a) knowledgeable about navigating it and (b) willing to do some digging. That information should be stored in some sort of registry variable and, if so, using regedit's search capability should let you find it. Can any of you out there confirm this?
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On Mar 24, 2013, at 7:20 AM, Adrian Spratt <Adrian@...> wrote:
If I'm not mistaken, the authorization number and extra CD came with JAWS
6.0. I've kept that version around here for that reason. I hope FS provides
this info and CD whenever someone signs up for the first time. But I agree,
we shouldn't have to rely on the packaging of a JAWS release from seven
versions ago, nor should we have to wait through a whole weekend to obtain
such basic information.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 8:38 AM
To: jfw
Subject: Blatant Rant
I went to register JAWS yesterday and made a startling and annoying
discovery. In order to register and license your copy of JAWS using
the Internet License Management facility, you need an authorization
number which, according to Freedom Scientific's FS activation page, in
both print and braille on the sleeve of the installation program CD.
OH yeah? Then the dots must be hidden, and the print is either
white-on-white or black-on-black, because nobody in my house, blind or
not, could find such a thing, and we looked on two different versions
that came in two different packages.
I suspect that what's really going on here is that somewhere, way back
when I first got JAWS with the serial number I'm currently using,
which was new for version 4.0 which was the first one to run on
Windows NT and above, the box it came in definitely did have an
authorization number on a stick-on braille label. Of course, 4.0 is
long, long ago, and so is the packaging in which it came. Since then,
I'm sure when updates come out, they are delivered directly from the
company that stamps out and packages the distribution CD's, so they
can't possibly be personalized with your very own authorization
number. If that's correct, where are we supposed to find this thing?
Inquiring minds wanna know, and answers will be gotten tomorrow
morning when FS technical support opens for business.
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Hmm, I have always just told JAWS to confirm my authorization on-line and
didn't have to mess with that idiot long number/.
Somehow this whole authorization scheme really sucks.
Back in the good old days you had a disk with the blamed code on it and you
knew how many codes you had on it. You could remove the code from the
computer and put it back on the "floppy" when you were going to do things
which would probably wipe out your code.
Cy
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-----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 11:31 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Blatant Rant Steve, And of course, you'll write this number into a text file that you can find in the future, correct? Dave Carlson Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Matzura" <number6@...> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 05:44 Subject: Re: Blatant Rant Exactly my plan. I was discussing this with another local JAWS user, and we both agreed we haven't seen that number on any packaging since versiion 7. On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 06:32:30 -0700, you wrote: Since you didn't record that number in a file somewhere, you will need to
wait until tomorrow, when you can call FS and ask them.
Annoying, but resolved with keeping a list of all your relevant
authorization, CD key, serial numbers, etc. in a text file somewhere.
Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Matzura" <number6@...>
To: "jfw" <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 05:38
Subject: Blatant Rant
I went to register JAWS yesterday and made a startling and annoying
discovery. In order to register and license your copy of JAWS using
the Internet License Management facility, you need an authorization
number which, according to Freedom Scientific's FS activation page, in
both print and braille on the sleeve of the installation program CD.
OH yeah? Then the dots must be hidden, and the print is either
white-on-white or black-on-black, because nobody in my house, blind or
not, could find such a thing, and we looked on two different versions
that came in two different packages.
I suspect that what's really going on here is that somewhere, way back
when I first got JAWS with the serial number I'm currently using,
which was new for version 4.0 which was the first one to run on
Windows NT and above, the box it came in definitely did have an
authorization number on a stick-on braille label. Of course, 4.0 is
long, long ago, and so is the packaging in which it came. Since then,
I'm sure when updates come out, they are delivered directly from the
company that stamps out and packages the distribution CD's, so they
can't possibly be personalized with your very own authorization
number. If that's correct, where are we supposed to find this thing?
Inquiring minds wanna know, and answers will be gotten tomorrow
morning when FS technical support opens for business.
_______________________________________________
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@...
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Steve,
And of course, you'll write this number into a text file that you can find
in the future, correct?
Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Matzura" <number6@...> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 05:44 Subject: Re: Blatant Rant Exactly my plan. I was discussing this with another local JAWS user, and we both agreed we haven't seen that number on any packaging since versiion 7. On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 06:32:30 -0700, you wrote: Since you didn't record that number in a file somewhere, you will need to
wait until tomorrow, when you can call FS and ask them.
Annoying, but resolved with keeping a list of all your relevant
authorization, CD key, serial numbers, etc. in a text file somewhere.
Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Matzura" <number6@...>
To: "jfw" <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 05:38
Subject: Blatant Rant
I went to register JAWS yesterday and made a startling and annoying
discovery. In order to register and license your copy of JAWS using
the Internet License Management facility, you need an authorization
number which, according to Freedom Scientific's FS activation page, in
both print and braille on the sleeve of the installation program CD.
OH yeah? Then the dots must be hidden, and the print is either
white-on-white or black-on-black, because nobody in my house, blind or
not, could find such a thing, and we looked on two different versions
that came in two different packages.
I suspect that what's really going on here is that somewhere, way back
when I first got JAWS with the serial number I'm currently using,
which was new for version 4.0 which was the first one to run on
Windows NT and above, the box it came in definitely did have an
authorization number on a stick-on braille label. Of course, 4.0 is
long, long ago, and so is the packaging in which it came. Since then,
I'm sure when updates come out, they are delivered directly from the
company that stamps out and packages the distribution CD's, so they
can't possibly be personalized with your very own authorization
number. If that's correct, where are we supposed to find this thing?
Inquiring minds wanna know, and answers will be gotten tomorrow
morning when FS technical support opens for business.
_______________________________________________
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@...
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Jfw@...
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I have a copy of my authorization number brailled out in my rolodex along
with a text file saved in my dropbox folder because of this exact reason.
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-----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 5:44 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Blatant Rant Exactly the purpose of my rant. On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 10:20:32 -0400, you wrote: If I'm not mistaken, the authorization number and extra CD came with
JAWS 6.0. I've kept that version around here for that reason. I hope FS
provides this info and CD whenever someone signs up for the first time.
But I agree, we shouldn't have to rely on the packaging of a JAWS
release from seven versions ago, nor should we have to wait through a
whole weekend to obtain such basic information.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Steve
Matzura
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 8:38 AM
To: jfw
Subject: Blatant Rant
I went to register JAWS yesterday and made a startling and annoying
discovery. In order to register and license your copy of JAWS using the
Internet License Management facility, you need an authorization number
which, according to Freedom Scientific's FS activation page, in both
print and braille on the sleeve of the installation program CD.
OH yeah? Then the dots must be hidden, and the print is either
white-on-white or black-on-black, because nobody in my house, blind or
not, could find such a thing, and we looked on two different versions
that came in two different packages.
I suspect that what's really going on here is that somewhere, way back
when I first got JAWS with the serial number I'm currently using, which
was new for version 4.0 which was the first one to run on Windows NT
and above, the box it came in definitely did have an authorization
number on a stick-on braille label. Of course, 4.0 is long, long ago,
and so is the packaging in which it came. Since then, I'm sure when
updates come out, they are delivered directly from the company that
stamps out and packages the distribution CD's, so they can't possibly
be personalized with your very own authorization number. If that's
correct, where are we supposed to find this thing?
Inquiring minds wanna know, and answers will be gotten tomorrow morning
when FS technical support opens for business.
_______________________________________________
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@...
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Well that makes about as much sense as a screen door on a submarine.
Not to mention the fact that in my hand right thi second, I hold a
sleeve containing a version 14 installation CD, and on thesleeve in
braille it says "JAWS 14 SMA". What exactly is that even supposed to
mean? Does it mean this is my last version before an SMA renewal is
required? Does it mean the sleeve contains the SMA renewal disk like
the old days? Neither is true. The sleeve actually contains the
version 14 installation disk.
Well, it's just after 8:30 Eastern Time, I'll let you all know how
this shakes out after I call down there and learn what's what.
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On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 16:25:35 +0200, you wrote: As far as I get it, you will only get a new number once you either
upgrade, or once you get a new SMA. So if you have a active SMA wich
run for 2 years, then after 1 year, you will not get a new number
because the SMA is stil running. So the 20 digit number only change
when you upgrrade or renew SMA.
On 24/03/2013, Adrian Spratt <Adrian@...> wrote:
If I'm not mistaken, the authorization number and extra CD came with JAWS
6.0. I've kept that version around here for that reason. I hope FS provides
this info and CD whenever someone signs up for the first time. But I agree,
we shouldn't have to rely on the packaging of a JAWS release from seven
versions ago, nor should we have to wait through a whole weekend to obtain
such basic information.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 8:38 AM
To: jfw
Subject: Blatant Rant
I went to register JAWS yesterday and made a startling and annoying
discovery. In order to register and license your copy of JAWS using
the Internet License Management facility, you need an authorization
number which, according to Freedom Scientific's FS activation page, in
both print and braille on the sleeve of the installation program CD.
OH yeah? Then the dots must be hidden, and the print is either
white-on-white or black-on-black, because nobody in my house, blind or
not, could find such a thing, and we looked on two different versions
that came in two different packages.
I suspect that what's really going on here is that somewhere, way back
when I first got JAWS with the serial number I'm currently using,
which was new for version 4.0 which was the first one to run on
Windows NT and above, the box it came in definitely did have an
authorization number on a stick-on braille label. Of course, 4.0 is
long, long ago, and so is the packaging in which it came. Since then,
I'm sure when updates come out, they are delivered directly from the
company that stamps out and packages the distribution CD's, so they
can't possibly be personalized with your very own authorization
number. If that's correct, where are we supposed to find this thing?
Inquiring minds wanna know, and answers will be gotten tomorrow
morning when FS technical support opens for business.
_______________________________________________
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@...
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Tom, I said the same thing last night to my local JAWS-using friend. I
have now spent over half an hour trying to find it and have come up
empty-handed. I don't know if it's obfuscated, or I'm just not looking
for the right thing. Either way, I'm off to get the info I need from
the horse's mouth. Then maybe I'll search the registry for that
specific piece of information. If I find it, I'll let you know where
it can be found in there.
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On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 10:16:29 -0700, you wrote: Hi,
I'd be willing to bet that the full 20-character authorization key is somewhere in the Registry, and that there's got to be some way to find it if you're (a) knowledgeable about navigating it and (b) willing to do some digging. That information should be stored in some sort of registry variable and, if so, using regedit's search capability should let you find it. Can any of you out there confirm this?
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On Mar 24, 2013, at 7:20 AM, Adrian Spratt <Adrian@...> wrote:
If I'm not mistaken, the authorization number and extra CD came with JAWS
6.0. I've kept that version around here for that reason. I hope FS provides
this info and CD whenever someone signs up for the first time. But I agree,
we shouldn't have to rely on the packaging of a JAWS release from seven
versions ago, nor should we have to wait through a whole weekend to obtain
such basic information.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 8:38 AM
To: jfw
Subject: Blatant Rant
I went to register JAWS yesterday and made a startling and annoying
discovery. In order to register and license your copy of JAWS using
the Internet License Management facility, you need an authorization
number which, according to Freedom Scientific's FS activation page, in
both print and braille on the sleeve of the installation program CD.
OH yeah? Then the dots must be hidden, and the print is either
white-on-white or black-on-black, because nobody in my house, blind or
not, could find such a thing, and we looked on two different versions
that came in two different packages.
I suspect that what's really going on here is that somewhere, way back
when I first got JAWS with the serial number I'm currently using,
which was new for version 4.0 which was the first one to run on
Windows NT and above, the box it came in definitely did have an
authorization number on a stick-on braille label. Of course, 4.0 is
long, long ago, and so is the packaging in which it came. Since then,
I'm sure when updates come out, they are delivered directly from the
company that stamps out and packages the distribution CD's, so they
can't possibly be personalized with your very own authorization
number. If that's correct, where are we supposed to find this thing?
Inquiring minds wanna know, and answers will be gotten tomorrow
morning when FS technical support opens for business.
_______________________________________________
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@...
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Exactly the purpose of my rant.
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On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 10:20:32 -0400, you wrote: If I'm not mistaken, the authorization number and extra CD came with JAWS
6.0. I've kept that version around here for that reason. I hope FS provides
this info and CD whenever someone signs up for the first time. But I agree,
we shouldn't have to rely on the packaging of a JAWS release from seven
versions ago, nor should we have to wait through a whole weekend to obtain
such basic information.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 8:38 AM
To: jfw
Subject: Blatant Rant
I went to register JAWS yesterday and made a startling and annoying
discovery. In order to register and license your copy of JAWS using
the Internet License Management facility, you need an authorization
number which, according to Freedom Scientific's FS activation page, in
both print and braille on the sleeve of the installation program CD.
OH yeah? Then the dots must be hidden, and the print is either
white-on-white or black-on-black, because nobody in my house, blind or
not, could find such a thing, and we looked on two different versions
that came in two different packages.
I suspect that what's really going on here is that somewhere, way back
when I first got JAWS with the serial number I'm currently using,
which was new for version 4.0 which was the first one to run on
Windows NT and above, the box it came in definitely did have an
authorization number on a stick-on braille label. Of course, 4.0 is
long, long ago, and so is the packaging in which it came. Since then,
I'm sure when updates come out, they are delivered directly from the
company that stamps out and packages the distribution CD's, so they
can't possibly be personalized with your very own authorization
number. If that's correct, where are we supposed to find this thing?
Inquiring minds wanna know, and answers will be gotten tomorrow
morning when FS technical support opens for business.
_______________________________________________
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@...
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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