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Tusing <ptusing@...>
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I would invite any one to find a long article on the N Y Times let's say under health and Try to read it with JAWS (10 and 12). The articles all get interrupted by "flash movie start" and then the entire page refreshes back to the top. I have "suppress all refreshes" checked. Yes, one can find "print" and the Timeswill Present the entire article perfectly. But I want to know why JAWS cannot read the entire article as happens on other newspaper sites without refreshing back to the beginning. Thanks to the excellent person who wrote me privately. Freedom Scientific did not as of now answer my query. Thanksto all.
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Adrian Spratt
The NY Times has been "improving" its website and emails. Last week they
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reformatted their daily headlines email so that headlines are no longer marked as headers. Before, I could skip from story to story by pressing 3 for header at level 3. Now I have to press 4 for the reporter's byline, then arrow up twice to the actual headline. Still worse, the layout isn't consistent, and this method sometimes skips over material. I've written to the Times to ask them to reinstate the header format for headlines. Their first response was thanks for my opinion. I followed up, and this time got an assurance that my request had been forwarded to Development. To address your concern here, I find that the webpages on the website are no longer as stable. I can't say I've experienced what you describe because I automatically go right to the print version. However, it's sometimes difficult to pin down the print link. You've probably noticed that sometimes an ad will pop up as a webpage appears to be opening. The usual solution in this case is to go to the top of the page and arrow down once. Here there's a link for skipping the ad. Press enter on this, and the webpage I want stays in place. You might want to bring your experience to the attention of the Times. As I tried to suggest, you might need to be persistent. Past problems with the newspaper have always been fixed. I'm using JAWS 14, Win7 and IE9. I find that JAWS 14 handles the Internet better than previous versions of JAWS.
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Tusing Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 12:47 PM To: jfw@... Subject: reading N Y Times articles Hi, I would invite any one to find a long article on the N Y Times let's say under health and Try to read it with JAWS (10 and 12). The articles all get interrupted by "flash movie start" and then the entire page refreshes back to the top. I have "suppress all refreshes" checked. Yes, one can find "print" and the Timeswill Present the entire article perfectly. But I want to know why JAWS cannot read the entire article as happens on other newspaper sites without refreshing back to the beginning. Thanks to the excellent person who wrote me privately. Freedom Scientific did not as of now answer my query. Thanksto all. _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Gerald Levy
The easiest way to read the New York Times, or any other major newspaper, for that matter, is to access it using NFB Newsline Online, rather than trying to access it directly from the paper's web site. All articles on NFB Newsline are arranged alphabetically by headline within section, and of course, there are no annoying pop-ups or flash content to deal with.
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Gerald
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From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 2:01 PM Subject: RE: reading N Y Times articles The NY Times has been "improving" its website and emails. Last week they
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David Hardingham
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lHow do you access this newsline? I am not a member of the nfb. Thanks, David
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From: Gerald Levy Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 2:42 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: reading N Y Times articles The easiest way to read the New York Times, or any other major newspaper, for that matter, is to access it using NFB Newsline Online, rather than trying to access it directly from the paper's web site. All articles on NFB Newsline are arranged alphabetically by headline within section, and of course, there are no annoying pop-ups or flash content to deal with. Gerald ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 2:01 PM Subject: RE: reading N Y Times articles The NY Times has been "improving" its website and emails. Last week they _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Gerald Levy
You do not need to be a member of the NFB to register for NFB Newsline. As long as you are legally blind, you are eligible for service. If you are already a patron of the NLS Talking Book program, you are automatically eligible. NFB Newsline currently has over 300 newspapers, magazines and periodicals available . You can either read them online using your screen reader or by calling a toll-free access number and listening to them over the phone using your choice of synthetic voices. Daily newspapers like the New York Times are posted before the print version hits the newsstands, so you can read the news first thing in the morning if you like. To learn more visit:
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https://nfb.org/audio-newspaper-service Gerald
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From: "David Hardingham" <jarhead55@...> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 3:30 PM Subject: Re: reading N Y Times articles Hi,
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Bill Spiry
I use JAWS to read news on the web from time to time but find it is
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limiting. The NY Times is paywalled online via my PC but interestingly, it's not paywalled via mobil access. If you use an iOS device, an app called "Earl" is another fully accessible alternative for access to the New York Times and hundreds of other English language newspapers and periodicals from around the world. The interface is voice controlled and all the content is read to you using your choice of the five very high quality TTS voices built into Earl. Just double-tap your screen, listen for the tone, speak a few straightforward commands and Earl will read articles you select from nearly 300 newspapers and periodicals, without ever having to see the screen. Earl works equally well with or without Voice Over since it uses it's own VUI and TTS system. Find Earl in the app store at: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/Earl/id573701016?ls=1&mt=8 you can find an extensive FAQ/user guide, demo and tutorial podcasts, and other info about Earl at the home page: www.EarlSpeech.com/ If you want to learn more about Earl, there are a couple of podcasts you can check out. First, a walk through demo on AppleVis.com: http://www.applevis.com/sites/default/files/podcasts/applevisPodcast335.mp3 and an interview & demo on Blind Bargains from CSun 2013: http://www.blindbargains.com/audio.php?m=8169 Contact Earl customer support any time with questions or feedback at: support@... Best Bill
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 11:42 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: reading N Y Times articles The easiest way to read the New York Times, or any other major newspaper, for that matter, is to access it using NFB Newsline Online, rather than trying to access it directly from the paper's web site. All articles on NFB Newsline are arranged alphabetically by headline within section, and of course, there are no annoying pop-ups or flash content to deal with. Gerald ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 2:01 PM Subject: RE: reading N Y Times articles The NY Times has been "improving" its website and emails. Last week they _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Bill Spiry
I use JAWS to read news on the web from time to time but find it is
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limiting. The NY Times is paywalled online via my PC but interestingly, it's not paywalled via mobil access. If you use an iOS device, an app called "Earl" is another fully accessible alternative for access to the New York Times and hundreds of other English language newspapers and periodicals from around the world. The interface is voice controlled and all the content is read to you using your choice of the five very high quality TTS voices built into Earl. Just double-tap your screen, listen for the tone, speak a few straightforward commands and Earl will read articles you select from nearly 300 newspapers and periodicals, without ever having to see the screen. Earl works equally well with or without Voice Over since it uses it's own VUI and TTS system. Find Earl in the app store at: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/Earl/id573701016?ls=1&mt=8 you can find an extensive FAQ/user guide, demo and tutorial podcasts, and other info about Earl at the home page: www.EarlSpeech.com/ If you want to learn more about Earl, there are a couple of podcasts you can check out. First, a walk through demo on AppleVis.com: http://www.applevis.com/sites/default/files/podcasts/applevisPodcast335.mp3 and an interview & demo on Blind Bargains from CSun 2013: http://www.blindbargains.com/audio.php?m=8169 Contact Earl customer support any time with questions or feedback at: support@... Best Bill
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of David Hardingham Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 12:30 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: reading N Y Times articles Hi, lHow do you access this newsline? I am not a member of the nfb. Thanks, David -----Original Message----- From: Gerald Levy Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 2:42 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: reading N Y Times articles The easiest way to read the New York Times, or any other major newspaper, for that matter, is to access it using NFB Newsline Online, rather than trying to access it directly from the paper's web site. All articles on NFB Newsline are arranged alphabetically by headline within section, and of course, there are no annoying pop-ups or flash content to deal with. Gerald ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 2:01 PM Subject: RE: reading N Y Times articles The NY Times has been "improving" its website and emails. Last week they _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Adrian Spratt
Perhaps it is the easiest way to read the New York Times, but it may not be
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the best. For one thing, the Times provides links within articles that are often useful. Second, you cannot send a friend a link to an article in the NFB edition. There are other factors, but they might be more debatable. For anyone who doesn't read in a strictly linear way and wishes to exchange views with the outside world, the NFB edition is constrictive. I'm glad both versions exist, though I find I keep reverting to the NY Times website and haven't even opened the NFB version for months.
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 2:42 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: reading N Y Times articles The easiest way to read the New York Times, or any other major newspaper, for that matter, is to access it using NFB Newsline Online, rather than trying to access it directly from the paper's web site. All articles on NFB Newsline are arranged alphabetically by headline within section, and of course, there are no annoying pop-ups or flash content to deal with. Gerald ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 2:01 PM Subject: RE: reading N Y Times articles The NY Times has been "improving" its website and emails. Last week they _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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