Portable Gps


Jamie Davis <jdmusicman1971@...>
 

Actually I was looking for a stand-alone gps that is accessible. As an
example, a Garmin. I'm not necessarily lookng for a Garmin, more or less a
gps where I don't have an extra unit, such as a Braille Note(which I don't
have), or a PacMate(which I do have). I know Freedom Scientific has the
Street Talk, and I have seen the Trecker Breeze. Not only am I looking for
a a one unit gps, but something that is more auditory. I read Braille, but
do more auditorily. I'm loking in to the Captain Mobility gps. Has anyone
ever heard about that or know anyone who has had one of those? It seems
that no matter what I do, for an accessible gps, I'm going to spend upwards
of $600. I can't afford that just now. I just started a part-time job and
it's not even enough to pay the bills. I have other sources which help in
that manner.



I had a question from a gentlemen when I was enquiring about the usb tv
tuners. The gentlemen said he had the Hauppauge usb tv tuenr. I am curious
as to what model you have. All of your feedback has been helpful thus far.
Thanks.



Jamie

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Cy Selfridge
 

Hi, I am sorry to tell you but that Kaptan Plus was not very well built and
is no longer made.
Your best bet is probably the Trekker Breeze. It is absolutely accessible,
reliable and all in one unit.
I believe I saw a used on for sale on Blind Bargains for around $350 or so.
Next choice would be an iPhone 4S or 5.
The GPS functions on it are quite good as well.
HTH,
Cy
cyselfridge@...

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Jamie Davis
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 5:54 PM
To: jfw@...
Subject: Portable Gps





Actually I was looking for a stand-alone gps that is accessible. As an
example, a Garmin. I'm not necessarily lookng for a Garmin, more or less a
gps where I don't have an extra unit, such as a Braille Note(which I don't
have), or a PacMate(which I do have). I know Freedom Scientific has the
Street Talk, and I have seen the Trecker Breeze. Not only am I looking for
a a one unit gps, but something that is more auditory. I read Braille, but
do more auditorily. I'm loking in to the Captain Mobility gps. Has anyone
ever heard about that or know anyone who has had one of those? It seems
that no matter what I do, for an accessible gps, I'm going to spend upwards
of $600. I can't afford that just now. I just started a part-time job and
it's not even enough to pay the bills. I have other sources which help in
that manner.



I had a question from a gentlemen when I was enquiring about the usb tv
tuners. The gentlemen said he had the Hauppauge usb tv tuenr. I am curious
as to what model you have. All of your feedback has been helpful thus far.
Thanks.



Jamie

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Dave...
 

Yes, agree with Cy about the iPhone. I think it's the best value now for the
money.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit

----- Original Message -----
From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 16:57
Subject: RE: Portable Gps


Hi, I am sorry to tell you but that Kaptan Plus was not very well built and
is no longer made.
Your best bet is probably the Trekker Breeze. It is absolutely accessible,
reliable and all in one unit.
I believe I saw a used on for sale on Blind Bargains for around $350 or so.
Next choice would be an iPhone 4S or 5.
The GPS functions on it are quite good as well.
HTH,
Cy
cyselfridge@...

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Jamie Davis
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 5:54 PM
To: jfw@...
Subject: Portable Gps





Actually I was looking for a stand-alone gps that is accessible. As an
example, a Garmin. I'm not necessarily lookng for a Garmin, more or less a
gps where I don't have an extra unit, such as a Braille Note(which I don't
have), or a PacMate(which I do have). I know Freedom Scientific has the
Street Talk, and I have seen the Trecker Breeze. Not only am I looking for
a a one unit gps, but something that is more auditory. I read Braille, but
do more auditorily. I'm loking in to the Captain Mobility gps. Has anyone
ever heard about that or know anyone who has had one of those? It seems
that no matter what I do, for an accessible gps, I'm going to spend upwards
of $600. I can't afford that just now. I just started a part-time job and
it's not even enough to pay the bills. I have other sources which help in
that manner.



I had a question from a gentlemen when I was enquiring about the usb tv
tuners. The gentlemen said he had the Hauppauge usb tv tuenr. I am curious
as to what model you have. All of your feedback has been helpful thus far.
Thanks.



Jamie

Linked IN Profile: <http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamiedavis2>
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Karen Hughes <khughes8@...>
 

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jamie Davis" <jdmusicman1971@...>
To: <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 7:53 PM
Subject: Portable Gps






Actually I was looking for a stand-alone gps that is accessible. As an
example, a Garmin. I'm not necessarily lookng for a Garmin, more or less a
gps where I don't have an extra unit, such as a Braille Note(which I don't
have), or a PacMate(which I do have). I know Freedom Scientific has the
Street Talk, and I have seen the Trecker Breeze. Not only am I looking for
a a one unit gps, but something that is more auditory. I read Braille, but
do more auditorily. I'm loking in to the Captain Mobility gps. Has anyone
ever heard about that or know anyone who has had one of those? It seems
that no matter what I do, for an accessible gps, I'm going to spend upwards
of $600. I can't afford that just now. I just started a part-time job and
it's not even enough to pay the bills. I have other sources which help in
that manner.



I had a question from a gentlemen when I was enquiring about the usb tv
tuners. The gentlemen said he had the Hauppauge usb tv tuenr. I am curious
as to what model you have. All of your feedback has been helpful thus far.
Thanks.



Jamie

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Jennifer Tissot
 

I haven't heard of Captain Mobility before. will have to look it up.

Trekker Breeze is strictly auditory but can't hook up to a Packmate as
you know. IT does give you which streets are in what direction and
more details if you set a route, and will redirect you if you go
off-route. IT's rather accurate and landmarks are excellent as far a
location goes while passing a particular place.

Unfortunately, it seems that everyone has the standard $700 or so when
it comes to the latest GPS. I had to save a llong time to get mine. Do
you have a Lion's Club where you can inquire about a grant? If you
give a good cause to why you need the device, they most often would be
happy to assist in the funds to get it for you. IT may take some
time--sometimes months before you hear back from them--but I have been
successful in obtaining a few adaptive pieces of tech from them. I
understand about thethe finantial cost. Very high for such rather
essential equipment for most of us.
Jen

On 2/11/13, Karen Hughes <khughes8@...> wrote:
I TOO WAS LOOKING AND TOLD BY MY ADVISOR THE cCAPTAIN WAS A POOR CHOICE.
GOOD LUCK, KAREN

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jamie Davis" <jdmusicman1971@...>
To: <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 7:53 PM
Subject: Portable Gps






Actually I was looking for a stand-alone gps that is accessible. As an
example, a Garmin. I'm not necessarily lookng for a Garmin, more or less

a
gps where I don't have an extra unit, such as a Braille Note(which I
don't
have), or a PacMate(which I do have). I know Freedom Scientific has the
Street Talk, and I have seen the Trecker Breeze. Not only am I looking
for
a a one unit gps, but something that is more auditory. I read Braille,
but
do more auditorily. I'm loking in to the Captain Mobility gps. Has
anyone
ever heard about that or know anyone who has had one of those? It seems
that no matter what I do, for an accessible gps, I'm going to spend
upwards
of $600. I can't afford that just now. I just started a part-time job
and
it's not even enough to pay the bills. I have other sources which help
in
that manner.



I had a question from a gentlemen when I was enquiring about the usb tv
tuners. The gentlemen said he had the Hauppauge usb tv tuenr. I am
curious
as to what model you have. All of your feedback has been helpful thus
far.
Thanks.



Jamie

Linked IN Profile: <http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamiedavis2>
http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamiedavis2



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Cy Selfridge
 

They no longer make the Kaptan Plus. It did not hold up very well.
I understand that they were working on a new model but it is going to be in
the same price range as the Breez.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Jennifer
Tissot
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 6:55 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Portable Gps

I haven't heard of Captain Mobility before. will have to look it up.

Trekker Breeze is strictly auditory but can't hook up to a Packmate as you
know. IT does give you which streets are in what direction and more details
if you set a route, and will redirect you if you go off-route. IT's rather
accurate and landmarks are excellent as far a location goes while passing a
particular place.

Unfortunately, it seems that everyone has the standard $700 or so when it
comes to the latest GPS. I had to save a llong time to get mine. Do you have
a Lion's Club where you can inquire about a grant? If you give a good cause
to why you need the device, they most often would be happy to assist in the
funds to get it for you. IT may take some time--sometimes months before you
hear back from them--but I have been successful in obtaining a few adaptive
pieces of tech from them. I understand about thethe finantial cost. Very
high for such rather essential equipment for most of us.
Jen
On 2/11/13, Karen Hughes <khughes8@...> wrote:
I TOO WAS LOOKING AND TOLD BY MY ADVISOR THE cCAPTAIN WAS A POOR CHOICE.
GOOD LUCK, KAREN

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jamie Davis" <jdmusicman1971@...>
To: <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 7:53 PM
Subject: Portable Gps






Actually I was looking for a stand-alone gps that is accessible. As
an example, a Garmin. I'm not necessarily lookng for a Garmin, more
or less

a
gps where I don't have an extra unit, such as a Braille Note(which I
don't have), or a PacMate(which I do have). I know Freedom
Scientific has the Street Talk, and I have seen the Trecker Breeze.
Not only am I looking for a a one unit gps, but something that is
more auditory. I read Braille, but do more auditorily. I'm loking
in to the Captain Mobility gps. Has anyone ever heard about that or
know anyone who has had one of those? It seems that no matter what I
do, for an accessible gps, I'm going to spend upwards of $600. I
can't afford that just now. I just started a part-time job and it's
not even enough to pay the bills. I have other sources which help in
that manner.



I had a question from a gentlemen when I was enquiring about the usb
tv tuners. The gentlemen said he had the Hauppauge usb tv tuenr. I
am curious as to what model you have. All of your feedback has been
helpful thus far.
Thanks.



Jamie

Linked IN Profile: <http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamiedavis2>
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Adrian Spratt
 

Here in New York city, when I was wanting to buy a GPS device, an
organization conducted a demonstration of the Trekker Breeze. It
misidentified nearby streets and couldn't estimate the distance to
intersections. I was left with a sense that it doesn't pick up the necessary
satellite signal in an environment of tall buildings. I think it's a
question any city resident considering buying a Breeze might look into
first. A friend has used the iPhone (I believe 4S) in Washington D.C. with
more success, so perhaps the app designed for it is a better bet in an urban
environment. This is hardly a good sample size, but the demonstration ended
my interest in the Breeze.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Jennifer
Tissot
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 8:55 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Portable Gps

I haven't heard of Captain Mobility before. will have to look it up.

Trekker Breeze is strictly auditory but can't hook up to a Packmate as
you know. IT does give you which streets are in what direction and
more details if you set a route, and will redirect you if you go
off-route. IT's rather accurate and landmarks are excellent as far a
location goes while passing a particular place.

Unfortunately, it seems that everyone has the standard $700 or so when
it comes to the latest GPS. I had to save a llong time to get mine. Do
you have a Lion's Club where you can inquire about a grant? If you
give a good cause to why you need the device, they most often would be
happy to assist in the funds to get it for you. IT may take some
time--sometimes months before you hear back from them--but I have been
successful in obtaining a few adaptive pieces of tech from them. I
understand about thethe finantial cost. Very high for such rather
essential equipment for most of us.
Jen
On 2/11/13, Karen Hughes <khughes8@...> wrote:
I TOO WAS LOOKING AND TOLD BY MY ADVISOR THE cCAPTAIN WAS A POOR CHOICE.
GOOD LUCK, KAREN

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jamie Davis" <jdmusicman1971@...>
To: <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 7:53 PM
Subject: Portable Gps






Actually I was looking for a stand-alone gps that is accessible. As an
example, a Garmin. I'm not necessarily lookng for a Garmin, more or less

a
gps where I don't have an extra unit, such as a Braille Note(which I
don't
have), or a PacMate(which I do have). I know Freedom Scientific has the
Street Talk, and I have seen the Trecker Breeze. Not only am I looking
for
a a one unit gps, but something that is more auditory. I read Braille,
but
do more auditorily. I'm loking in to the Captain Mobility gps. Has
anyone
ever heard about that or know anyone who has had one of those? It seems
that no matter what I do, for an accessible gps, I'm going to spend
upwards
of $600. I can't afford that just now. I just started a part-time job
and
it's not even enough to pay the bills. I have other sources which help
in
that manner.



I had a question from a gentlemen when I was enquiring about the usb tv
tuners. The gentlemen said he had the Hauppauge usb tv tuenr. I am
curious
as to what model you have. All of your feedback has been helpful thus
far.
Thanks.



Jamie

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Dave...
 

Adrian, yes GPS can be an issue in those urban canyons with all the
multi-path bouncing of the signal off tall vertical structures. However
there must be better technology in the GPS receivers for the mainstream
market, or too many taxi drivers would complain on those same streets. I
suspect that the GPS engine used in the Trekker could be replaced (by them,
of course) with a more technically-savvy GPS engine that uses better
algorithms to calculate and interpolate position where so much multi-path
interference abounds. Most cities today also have a ground-based enhanced
GPS network (called WAAS) with fixed base points usually installed on cell
towers, that significantly improve GPS navigation. In fact, I'm surprised
that Trekker did so poorly in these times when Garmin and Tom-Tom seem to
have no problems at all. My wife and I used a handheld Garmin when we
visited NYC last year, and it was very accurate in describing the street
intersections and locations of addresses.

Your review of Trekker's performance should have caused the makers of
Trekker to go back to their drawing boards and improve the product.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit

----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 18:37
Subject: RE: Portable Gps


Here in New York city, when I was wanting to buy a GPS device, an
organization conducted a demonstration of the Trekker Breeze. It
misidentified nearby streets and couldn't estimate the distance to
intersections. I was left with a sense that it doesn't pick up the necessary
satellite signal in an environment of tall buildings. I think it's a
question any city resident considering buying a Breeze might look into
first. A friend has used the iPhone (I believe 4S) in Washington D.C. with
more success, so perhaps the app designed for it is a better bet in an urban
environment. This is hardly a good sample size, but the demonstration ended
my interest in the Breeze.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Jennifer
Tissot
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 8:55 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Portable Gps

I haven't heard of Captain Mobility before. will have to look it up.

Trekker Breeze is strictly auditory but can't hook up to a Packmate as
you know. IT does give you which streets are in what direction and
more details if you set a route, and will redirect you if you go
off-route. IT's rather accurate and landmarks are excellent as far a
location goes while passing a particular place.

Unfortunately, it seems that everyone has the standard $700 or so when
it comes to the latest GPS. I had to save a llong time to get mine. Do
you have a Lion's Club where you can inquire about a grant? If you
give a good cause to why you need the device, they most often would be
happy to assist in the funds to get it for you. IT may take some
time--sometimes months before you hear back from them--but I have been
successful in obtaining a few adaptive pieces of tech from them. I
understand about thethe finantial cost. Very high for such rather
essential equipment for most of us.
Jen
On 2/11/13, Karen Hughes <khughes8@...> wrote:
I TOO WAS LOOKING AND TOLD BY MY ADVISOR THE cCAPTAIN WAS A POOR CHOICE.
GOOD LUCK, KAREN

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jamie Davis" <jdmusicman1971@...>
To: <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 7:53 PM
Subject: Portable Gps






Actually I was looking for a stand-alone gps that is accessible. As an
example, a Garmin. I'm not necessarily lookng for a Garmin, more or less

a
gps where I don't have an extra unit, such as a Braille Note(which I
don't
have), or a PacMate(which I do have). I know Freedom Scientific has the
Street Talk, and I have seen the Trecker Breeze. Not only am I looking
for
a a one unit gps, but something that is more auditory. I read Braille,
but
do more auditorily. I'm loking in to the Captain Mobility gps. Has
anyone
ever heard about that or know anyone who has had one of those? It seems
that no matter what I do, for an accessible gps, I'm going to spend
upwards
of $600. I can't afford that just now. I just started a part-time job
and
it's not even enough to pay the bills. I have other sources which help
in
that manner.



I had a question from a gentlemen when I was enquiring about the usb tv
tuners. The gentlemen said he had the Hauppauge usb tv tuenr. I am
curious
as to what model you have. All of your feedback has been helpful thus
far.
Thanks.



Jamie

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Richard Holloway
 

If memory serves, iPhones, at least at one point, were using a database of known wifi reference points to enhance navigation. I also have no doubt cell-based devices can be set to use tower reference points to gain accuracy as mentioned.

The more open the sky view, the more GPS satellites can be tracked by a GPS to gain accuracy, but if a device lacks a cellular connection or wifi with an associated database, options get fewer and fewer, especially for a handheld unit.

One other item of possible interest (thinking of the taxi comment)-- a built in GPS in a car will, at least in some cases, use extra tricks, most notably the antilock brake sensors, to count wheel revolutions and the speedometer when GPS signals gets lost (especially in say, a tunnel) and estimate position based on that. It can be pretty accurate because when you turn the wheels, there is differential between the left and right wheel speeds. (I think that's called the yaw rate.) That trick won't work so well when someone is walking with a handheld. I believe many portable car units will similarly assume continued constant velocity at least for a short time upon signal loss. I have no idea what a Trekker can do in such a situation.

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 11, 2013, at 9:37 PM, Adrian Spratt <Adrian@...> wrote:

Here in New York city, when I was wanting to buy a GPS device, an
organization conducted a demonstration of the Trekker Breeze. It
misidentified nearby streets and couldn't estimate the distance to
intersections. I was left with a sense that it doesn't pick up the necessary
satellite signal in an environment of tall buildings. I think it's a
question any city resident considering buying a Breeze might look into
first. A friend has used the iPhone (I believe 4S) in Washington D.C. with
more success, so perhaps the app designed for it is a better bet in an urban
environment. This is hardly a good sample size, but the demonstration ended
my interest in the Breeze.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Jennifer
Tissot
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 8:55 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Portable Gps

I haven't heard of Captain Mobility before. will have to look it up.

Trekker Breeze is strictly auditory but can't hook up to a Packmate as
you know. IT does give you which streets are in what direction and
more details if you set a route, and will redirect you if you go
off-route. IT's rather accurate and landmarks are excellent as far a
location goes while passing a particular place.

Unfortunately, it seems that everyone has the standard $700 or so when
it comes to the latest GPS. I had to save a llong time to get mine. Do
you have a Lion's Club where you can inquire about a grant? If you
give a good cause to why you need the device, they most often would be
happy to assist in the funds to get it for you. IT may take some
time--sometimes months before you hear back from them--but I have been
successful in obtaining a few adaptive pieces of tech from them. I
understand about thethe finantial cost. Very high for such rather
essential equipment for most of us.
Jen
On 2/11/13, Karen Hughes <khughes8@...> wrote:
I TOO WAS LOOKING AND TOLD BY MY ADVISOR THE cCAPTAIN WAS A POOR CHOICE.
GOOD LUCK, KAREN

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jamie Davis" <jdmusicman1971@...>
To: <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 7:53 PM
Subject: Portable Gps






Actually I was looking for a stand-alone gps that is accessible. As an
example, a Garmin. I'm not necessarily lookng for a Garmin, more or less

a
gps where I don't have an extra unit, such as a Braille Note(which I
don't
have), or a PacMate(which I do have). I know Freedom Scientific has the
Street Talk, and I have seen the Trecker Breeze. Not only am I looking
for
a a one unit gps, but something that is more auditory. I read Braille,
but
do more auditorily. I'm loking in to the Captain Mobility gps. Has
anyone
ever heard about that or know anyone who has had one of those? It seems
that no matter what I do, for an accessible gps, I'm going to spend
upwards
of $600. I can't afford that just now. I just started a part-time job
and
it's not even enough to pay the bills. I have other sources which help
in
that manner.



I had a question from a gentlemen when I was enquiring about the usb tv
tuners. The gentlemen said he had the Hauppauge usb tv tuenr. I am
curious
as to what model you have. All of your feedback has been helpful thus
far.
Thanks.



Jamie

Linked IN Profile: <http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamiedavis2>
http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamiedavis2



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Cynthia Bruce
 

Hi All,

Really interesting discussion about portable GPS systems. I have an Iphone 4s, so I am wondering what the app would be for me to use as a portable gps?

Cynthia

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Holloway
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 2:19 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Portable Gps

If memory serves, iPhones, at least at one point, were using a database of known wifi reference points to enhance navigation. I also have no doubt cell-based devices can be set to use tower reference points to gain accuracy as mentioned.

The more open the sky view, the more GPS satellites can be tracked by a GPS to gain accuracy, but if a device lacks a cellular connection or wifi with an associated database, options get fewer and fewer, especially for a handheld unit.

One other item of possible interest (thinking of the taxi comment)-- a built in GPS in a car will, at least in some cases, use extra tricks, most notably the antilock brake sensors, to count wheel revolutions and the speedometer when GPS signals gets lost (especially in say, a tunnel) and estimate position based on that. It can be pretty accurate because when you turn the wheels, there is differential between the left and right wheel speeds. (I think that's called the yaw rate.) That trick won't work so well when someone is walking with a handheld. I believe many portable car units will similarly assume continued constant velocity at least for a short time upon signal loss. I have no idea what a Trekker can do in such a situation.

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 11, 2013, at 9:37 PM, Adrian Spratt <Adrian@...> wrote:

Here in New York city, when I was wanting to buy a GPS device, an
organization conducted a demonstration of the Trekker Breeze. It
misidentified nearby streets and couldn't estimate the distance to
intersections. I was left with a sense that it doesn't pick up the necessary
satellite signal in an environment of tall buildings. I think it's a
question any city resident considering buying a Breeze might look into
first. A friend has used the iPhone (I believe 4S) in Washington D.C. with
more success, so perhaps the app designed for it is a better bet in an urban
environment. This is hardly a good sample size, but the demonstration ended
my interest in the Breeze.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Jennifer
Tissot
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 8:55 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Portable Gps

I haven't heard of Captain Mobility before. will have to look it up.

Trekker Breeze is strictly auditory but can't hook up to a Packmate as
you know. IT does give you which streets are in what direction and
more details if you set a route, and will redirect you if you go
off-route. IT's rather accurate and landmarks are excellent as far a
location goes while passing a particular place.

Unfortunately, it seems that everyone has the standard $700 or so when
it comes to the latest GPS. I had to save a llong time to get mine. Do
you have a Lion's Club where you can inquire about a grant? If you
give a good cause to why you need the device, they most often would be
happy to assist in the funds to get it for you. IT may take some
time--sometimes months before you hear back from them--but I have been
successful in obtaining a few adaptive pieces of tech from them. I
understand about thethe finantial cost. Very high for such rather
essential equipment for most of us.
Jen
On 2/11/13, Karen Hughes <khughes8@...> wrote:
I TOO WAS LOOKING AND TOLD BY MY ADVISOR THE cCAPTAIN WAS A POOR CHOICE.
GOOD LUCK, KAREN

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jamie Davis" <jdmusicman1971@...>
To: <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 7:53 PM
Subject: Portable Gps






Actually I was looking for a stand-alone gps that is accessible. As an
example, a Garmin. I'm not necessarily lookng for a Garmin, more or less

a
gps where I don't have an extra unit, such as a Braille Note(which I
don't
have), or a PacMate(which I do have). I know Freedom Scientific has the
Street Talk, and I have seen the Trecker Breeze. Not only am I looking
for
a a one unit gps, but something that is more auditory. I read Braille,
but
do more auditorily. I'm loking in to the Captain Mobility gps. Has
anyone
ever heard about that or know anyone who has had one of those? It seems
that no matter what I do, for an accessible gps, I'm going to spend
upwards
of $600. I can't afford that just now. I just started a part-time job
and
it's not even enough to pay the bills. I have other sources which help
in
that manner.



I had a question from a gentlemen when I was enquiring about the usb tv
tuners. The gentlemen said he had the Hauppauge usb tv tuenr. I am
curious
as to what model you have. All of your feedback has been helpful thus
far.
Thanks.



Jamie

Linked IN Profile: <http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamiedavis2>
http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamiedavis2



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James Homuth
 

Folks,

I hate to break up a thread, but we've gone from vaguely remotely JAWS/FS
related to well off the beaten path on this one. Let's us maybe consider
shutting it down here, or taking it to a more suitable list. Either the
blindtech list or, for some aspects, the ViPhone Google group. Thanks much.

James,
List Admin

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Cynthia Bruce
Sent: February-12-13 8:00 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Portable Gps

Hi All,

Really interesting discussion about portable GPS systems. I have an Iphone
4s, so I am wondering what the app would be for me to use as a portable gps?

Cynthia

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Holloway
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 2:19 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Portable Gps

If memory serves, iPhones, at least at one point, were using a database of
known wifi reference points to enhance navigation. I also have no doubt
cell-based devices can be set to use tower reference points to gain accuracy
as mentioned.

The more open the sky view, the more GPS satellites can be tracked by a GPS
to gain accuracy, but if a device lacks a cellular connection or wifi with
an associated database, options get fewer and fewer, especially for a
handheld unit.

One other item of possible interest (thinking of the taxi comment)-- a built
in GPS in a car will, at least in some cases, use extra tricks, most notably
the antilock brake sensors, to count wheel revolutions and the speedometer
when GPS signals gets lost (especially in say, a tunnel) and estimate
position based on that. It can be pretty accurate because when you turn the
wheels, there is differential between the left and right wheel speeds. (I
think that's called the yaw rate.) That trick won't work so well when
someone is walking with a handheld. I believe many portable car units will
similarly assume continued constant velocity at least for a short time upon
signal loss. I have no idea what a Trekker can do in such a situation.

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 11, 2013, at 9:37 PM, Adrian Spratt <Adrian@...> wrote:

Here in New York city, when I was wanting to buy a GPS device, an
organization conducted a demonstration of the Trekker Breeze. It
misidentified nearby streets and couldn't estimate the distance to
intersections. I was left with a sense that it doesn't pick up the
necessary satellite signal in an environment of tall buildings. I
think it's a question any city resident considering buying a Breeze
might look into first. A friend has used the iPhone (I believe 4S) in
Washington D.C. with more success, so perhaps the app designed for it
is a better bet in an urban environment. This is hardly a good sample
size, but the demonstration ended my interest in the Breeze.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Jennifer
Tissot
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 8:55 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Portable Gps

I haven't heard of Captain Mobility before. will have to look it up.

Trekker Breeze is strictly auditory but can't hook up to a Packmate as
you know. IT does give you which streets are in what direction and
more details if you set a route, and will redirect you if you go
off-route. IT's rather accurate and landmarks are excellent as far a
location goes while passing a particular place.

Unfortunately, it seems that everyone has the standard $700 or so when
it comes to the latest GPS. I had to save a llong time to get mine. Do
you have a Lion's Club where you can inquire about a grant? If you
give a good cause to why you need the device, they most often would be
happy to assist in the funds to get it for you. IT may take some
time--sometimes months before you hear back from them--but I have been
successful in obtaining a few adaptive pieces of tech from them. I
understand about thethe finantial cost. Very high for such rather
essential equipment for most of us.
Jen
On 2/11/13, Karen Hughes <khughes8@...> wrote:
I TOO WAS LOOKING AND TOLD BY MY ADVISOR THE cCAPTAIN WAS A POOR CHOICE.
GOOD LUCK, KAREN

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jamie Davis" <jdmusicman1971@...>
To: <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 7:53 PM
Subject: Portable Gps






Actually I was looking for a stand-alone gps that is accessible. As
an example, a Garmin. I'm not necessarily lookng for a Garmin, more
or less

a
gps where I don't have an extra unit, such as a Braille Note(which I
don't have), or a PacMate(which I do have). I know Freedom
Scientific has the Street Talk, and I have seen the Trecker Breeze.
Not only am I looking for a a one unit gps, but something that is
more auditory. I read Braille, but do more auditorily. I'm loking
in to the Captain Mobility gps. Has anyone ever heard about that or
know anyone who has had one of those? It seems that no matter what
I do, for an accessible gps, I'm going to spend upwards of $600. I
can't afford that just now. I just started a part-time job and it's
not even enough to pay the bills. I have other sources which help
in that manner.



I had a question from a gentlemen when I was enquiring about the usb
tv tuners. The gentlemen said he had the Hauppauge usb tv tuenr. I
am curious as to what model you have. All of your feedback has been
helpful thus far.
Thanks.



Jamie

Linked IN Profile: <http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamiedavis2>
http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamiedavis2



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Dave...
 

Ariadne is good for telling you where you are. Also Sendero Lookaround for
nearest street intersections. For trip planning, MotionX GPS Drive works
quite well.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit

----- Original Message -----
From: "Cynthia Bruce" <cynthia.bruce@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 04:59
Subject: Re: Portable Gps


Hi All,

Really interesting discussion about portable GPS systems. I have an Iphone
4s, so I am wondering what the app would be for me to use as a portable gps?

Cynthia

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Holloway
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 2:19 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Portable Gps

If memory serves, iPhones, at least at one point, were using a database of
known wifi reference points to enhance navigation. I also have no doubt
cell-based devices can be set to use tower reference points to gain accuracy
as mentioned.

The more open the sky view, the more GPS satellites can be tracked by a GPS
to gain accuracy, but if a device lacks a cellular connection or wifi with
an associated database, options get fewer and fewer, especially for a
handheld unit.

One other item of possible interest (thinking of the taxi comment)-- a built
in GPS in a car will, at least in some cases, use extra tricks, most notably
the antilock brake sensors, to count wheel revolutions and the speedometer
when GPS signals gets lost (especially in say, a tunnel) and estimate
position based on that. It can be pretty accurate because when you turn the
wheels, there is differential between the left and right wheel speeds. (I
think that's called the yaw rate.) That trick won't work so well when
someone is walking with a handheld. I believe many portable car units will
similarly assume continued constant velocity at least for a short time upon
signal loss. I have no idea what a Trekker can do in such a situation.

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 11, 2013, at 9:37 PM, Adrian Spratt <Adrian@...> wrote:

Here in New York city, when I was wanting to buy a GPS device, an
organization conducted a demonstration of the Trekker Breeze. It
misidentified nearby streets and couldn't estimate the distance to
intersections. I was left with a sense that it doesn't pick up the
necessary
satellite signal in an environment of tall buildings. I think it's a
question any city resident considering buying a Breeze might look into
first. A friend has used the iPhone (I believe 4S) in Washington D.C. with
more success, so perhaps the app designed for it is a better bet in an
urban
environment. This is hardly a good sample size, but the demonstration
ended
my interest in the Breeze.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Jennifer
Tissot
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 8:55 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Portable Gps

I haven't heard of Captain Mobility before. will have to look it up.

Trekker Breeze is strictly auditory but can't hook up to a Packmate as
you know. IT does give you which streets are in what direction and
more details if you set a route, and will redirect you if you go
off-route. IT's rather accurate and landmarks are excellent as far a
location goes while passing a particular place.

Unfortunately, it seems that everyone has the standard $700 or so when
it comes to the latest GPS. I had to save a llong time to get mine. Do
you have a Lion's Club where you can inquire about a grant? If you
give a good cause to why you need the device, they most often would be
happy to assist in the funds to get it for you. IT may take some
time--sometimes months before you hear back from them--but I have been
successful in obtaining a few adaptive pieces of tech from them. I
understand about thethe finantial cost. Very high for such rather
essential equipment for most of us.
Jen
On 2/11/13, Karen Hughes <khughes8@...> wrote:
I TOO WAS LOOKING AND TOLD BY MY ADVISOR THE cCAPTAIN WAS A POOR CHOICE.
GOOD LUCK, KAREN

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jamie Davis" <jdmusicman1971@...>
To: <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 7:53 PM
Subject: Portable Gps






Actually I was looking for a stand-alone gps that is accessible. As an
example, a Garmin. I'm not necessarily lookng for a Garmin, more or
less

a
gps where I don't have an extra unit, such as a Braille Note(which I
don't
have), or a PacMate(which I do have). I know Freedom Scientific has the
Street Talk, and I have seen the Trecker Breeze. Not only am I looking
for
a a one unit gps, but something that is more auditory. I read Braille,
but
do more auditorily. I'm loking in to the Captain Mobility gps. Has
anyone
ever heard about that or know anyone who has had one of those? It seems
that no matter what I do, for an accessible gps, I'm going to spend
upwards
of $600. I can't afford that just now. I just started a part-time job
and
it's not even enough to pay the bills. I have other sources which help
in
that manner.



I had a question from a gentlemen when I was enquiring about the usb tv
tuners. The gentlemen said he had the Hauppauge usb tv tuenr. I am
curious
as to what model you have. All of your feedback has been helpful thus
far.
Thanks.



Jamie

Linked IN Profile: <http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamiedavis2>
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Rose Combs <rosecombs@...>
 

Join the iPhone list on Google groups, then look at the archives, there are
loads of messes on GPS, with lots of opinions about what works. I use my
iPhone 4S with some of these programs to get information.


Rose Combs
rosecombs@Q.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Cynthia Bruce
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 6:00 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Portable Gps

Hi All,

Really interesting discussion about portable GPS systems. I have an Iphone
4s, so I am wondering what the app would be for me to use as a portable gps?

Cynthia

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Holloway
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 2:19 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Portable Gps

If memory serves, iPhones, at least at one point, were using a database of
known wifi reference points to enhance navigation. I also have no doubt
cell-based devices can be set to use tower reference points to gain accuracy

as mentioned.

The more open the sky view, the more GPS satellites can be tracked by a GPS
to gain accuracy, but if a device lacks a cellular connection or wifi with
an associated database, options get fewer and fewer, especially for a
handheld unit.

One other item of possible interest (thinking of the taxi comment)-- a built

in GPS in a car will, at least in some cases, use extra tricks, most notably

the antilock brake sensors, to count wheel revolutions and the speedometer
when GPS signals gets lost (especially in say, a tunnel) and estimate
position based on that. It can be pretty accurate because when you turn the
wheels, there is differential between the left and right wheel speeds. (I
think that's called the yaw rate.) That trick won't work so well when
someone is walking with a handheld. I believe many portable car units will
similarly assume continued constant velocity at least for a short time upon
signal loss. I have no idea what a Trekker can do in such a situation.

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 11, 2013, at 9:37 PM, Adrian Spratt <Adrian@...> wrote:

Here in New York city, when I was wanting to buy a GPS device, an
organization conducted a demonstration of the Trekker Breeze. It
misidentified nearby streets and couldn't estimate the distance to
intersections. I was left with a sense that it doesn't pick up the
necessary
satellite signal in an environment of tall buildings. I think it's a
question any city resident considering buying a Breeze might look into
first. A friend has used the iPhone (I believe 4S) in Washington D.C. with
more success, so perhaps the app designed for it is a better bet in an
urban
environment. This is hardly a good sample size, but the demonstration
ended
my interest in the Breeze.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Jennifer
Tissot
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 8:55 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Portable Gps

I haven't heard of Captain Mobility before. will have to look it up.

Trekker Breeze is strictly auditory but can't hook up to a Packmate as
you know. IT does give you which streets are in what direction and
more details if you set a route, and will redirect you if you go
off-route. IT's rather accurate and landmarks are excellent as far a
location goes while passing a particular place.

Unfortunately, it seems that everyone has the standard $700 or so when
it comes to the latest GPS. I had to save a llong time to get mine. Do
you have a Lion's Club where you can inquire about a grant? If you
give a good cause to why you need the device, they most often would be
happy to assist in the funds to get it for you. IT may take some
time--sometimes months before you hear back from them--but I have been
successful in obtaining a few adaptive pieces of tech from them. I
understand about thethe finantial cost. Very high for such rather
essential equipment for most of us.
Jen
On 2/11/13, Karen Hughes <khughes8@...> wrote:
I TOO WAS LOOKING AND TOLD BY MY ADVISOR THE cCAPTAIN WAS A POOR CHOICE.
GOOD LUCK, KAREN

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jamie Davis" <jdmusicman1971@...>
To: <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 7:53 PM
Subject: Portable Gps






Actually I was looking for a stand-alone gps that is accessible. As an
example, a Garmin. I'm not necessarily lookng for a Garmin, more or
less

a
gps where I don't have an extra unit, such as a Braille Note(which I
don't
have), or a PacMate(which I do have). I know Freedom Scientific has the
Street Talk, and I have seen the Trecker Breeze. Not only am I looking
for
a a one unit gps, but something that is more auditory. I read Braille,
but
do more auditorily. I'm loking in to the Captain Mobility gps. Has
anyone
ever heard about that or know anyone who has had one of those? It seems
that no matter what I do, for an accessible gps, I'm going to spend
upwards
of $600. I can't afford that just now. I just started a part-time job
and
it's not even enough to pay the bills. I have other sources which help
in
that manner.



I had a question from a gentlemen when I was enquiring about the usb tv
tuners. The gentlemen said he had the Hauppauge usb tv tuenr. I am
curious
as to what model you have. All of your feedback has been helpful thus
far.
Thanks.



Jamie

Linked IN Profile: <http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamiedavis2>
http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamiedavis2



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