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Hi. I am posting to bring attention to what appears to be a very good dictionary that can be loaded onto a computer, thus avoiding the need of going online, and whose owner says it is open to accessibility improvements. The company has asked me to inform it of my experience, and I'm hoping that others on the list will find such a resource valuable enough to want to send along your own accessibility reports. The Sage dictionary is free, although we are ask to make a nominal contribution if we find it useful. Information and download links are here: http://www.sequencepublishing.com/thesage.html#download All I've done so far is figure out how to locate and read a definition. It requires turning off graphics and using the JAWS cursor. As some of you will realize from my many recent posts, I am buried in the tasks of learning Win7 and Office 2010, or else I would have delved deeper. Again, I'm hoping some of you share my interest in a quality, free or low-cost off-line dictionary and would be willing to assess and report other accessibility issues. The address to send comments to is: info@... To conclude, here's what a company representative named Frank wrote to me last night: Please let us know of your progress. We have long toyed with the idea of creating a macro-option that would automatically adjust all the individual options to values that are best suited to the visually impaired. Unfortunately, our lack of experience in this area is complete. You might want to know that a complete redesign of TheSage is in its preliminary stages. We don't have any dates yet but this could be a great opportunity to build in accessibility features from the start. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: < http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20130210/80a138fc/attachment.html>
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I installed the Sage Dictionary and took it for a spin. Switching graphics to None in Quick Settings gets rid of some of the clutter on the screen.
The most obvious problem is that there is no cursor in the definition section, so it doesn't get the focus when a definition is displayed. This means that you have to use the JAWS cursor to read the definition after you find it.
Looking up more than one word causes definitions to appear under multiple tabs. I'm not sure how useful this is. You can set the number of tabs you want in Options. I set this option to 1 until I find out what benefit multiple tabs would be to me. If you did want multiple tabs, you would want to be able to switch among them with Control plus Tab.
That's about all I've learned so far. It might be interesting to compare the definitions of several words to definitions in other dictionaries to get an idea of how good this dictionary is in areas other than accessibility.
Gary King
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 10:44 AM Subject: The Sage Dictionary Hi. I am posting to bring attention to what appears to be a very good
dictionary that can be loaded onto a computer, thus avoiding the need of
going online, and whose owner says it is open to accessibility improvements.
The company has asked me to inform it of my experience, and I'm hoping that
others on the list will find such a resource valuable enough to want to send
along your own accessibility reports.
The Sage dictionary is free, although we are ask to make a nominal
contribution if we find it useful. Information and download links are here:
http://www.sequencepublishing.com/thesage.html#download
All I've done so far is figure out how to locate and read a definition. It
requires turning off graphics and using the JAWS cursor. As some of you will
realize from my many recent posts, I am buried in the tasks of learning Win7
and Office 2010, or else I would have delved deeper. Again, I'm hoping some
of you share my interest in a quality, free or low-cost off-line dictionary
and would be willing to assess and report other accessibility issues.
The address to send comments to is:
info@...
To conclude, here's what a company representative named Frank wrote to me
last night:
Please let us know of your progress.
We have long toyed with the idea of creating a macro-option that would
automatically adjust all the individual options to values that are
best suited to the visually impaired. Unfortunately, our lack of experience
in this area is complete.
You might want to know that a complete redesign of TheSage is in its
preliminary stages. We don't have any dates yet but this could be a
great opportunity to build in accessibility features from the start.
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Yes, and because you need to use the JAWS cursor to read the definition, you
must virtualize the window with JAWS key+alt+w in order to make a copy.
Gary, do you know of any other good off-line dictionaries? With Windows XP,
I had the Webster's Random House, which I liked a lot, but it hasn't been
updated to work correctly with Win7.
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-----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Gary King Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 3:31 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: The Sage Dictionary I installed the Sage Dictionary and took it for a spin. Switching graphics to None in Quick Settings gets rid of some of the clutter on the screen. The most obvious problem is that there is no cursor in the definition section, so it doesn't get the focus when a definition is displayed. This means that you have to use the JAWS cursor to read the definition after you find it. Looking up more than one word causes definitions to appear under multiple tabs. I'm not sure how useful this is. You can set the number of tabs you want in Options. I set this option to 1 until I find out what benefit multiple tabs would be to me. If you did want multiple tabs, you would want to be able to switch among them with Control plus Tab. That's about all I've learned so far. It might be interesting to compare the definitions of several words to definitions in other dictionaries to get an idea of how good this dictionary is in areas other than accessibility. Gary King w4wkz@... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 10:44 AM Subject: The Sage Dictionary Hi. I am posting to bring attention to what appears to be a very good
dictionary that can be loaded onto a computer, thus avoiding the need of
going online, and whose owner says it is open to accessibility
improvements.
The company has asked me to inform it of my experience, and I'm hoping
that
others on the list will find such a resource valuable enough to want to
send
along your own accessibility reports.
The Sage dictionary is free, although we are ask to make a nominal
contribution if we find it useful. Information and download links are
here:
http://www.sequencepublishing.com/thesage.html#download
All I've done so far is figure out how to locate and read a definition. It
requires turning off graphics and using the JAWS cursor. As some of you
will
realize from my many recent posts, I am buried in the tasks of learning
Win7
and Office 2010, or else I would have delved deeper. Again, I'm hoping
some
of you share my interest in a quality, free or low-cost off-line
dictionary
and would be willing to assess and report other accessibility issues.
The address to send comments to is:
info@...
To conclude, here's what a company representative named Frank wrote to me
last night:
Please let us know of your progress.
We have long toyed with the idea of creating a macro-option that would
automatically adjust all the individual options to values that are
best suited to the visually impaired. Unfortunately, our lack of
experience
in this area is complete.
You might want to know that a complete redesign of TheSage is in its
preliminary stages. We don't have any dates yet but this could be a
great opportunity to build in accessibility features from the start.
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Adrian,
I haven't really needed an off-line dictionary since I bought Open Book. It includes the American Heritage Dictionary. If I need something more portable, I grab my little Franklin Language Master that I've had for about 20 years.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 3:07 PM Subject: RE: The Sage Dictionary Yes, and because you need to use the JAWS cursor to read the definition, you
must virtualize the window with JAWS key+alt+w in order to make a copy.
Gary, do you know of any other good off-line dictionaries? With Windows XP,
I had the Webster's Random House, which I liked a lot, but it hasn't been
updated to work correctly with Win7.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Gary King
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 3:31 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: The Sage Dictionary
I installed the Sage Dictionary and took it for a spin. Switching graphics
to None in Quick Settings gets rid of some of the clutter on the screen.
The most obvious problem is that there is no cursor in the definition
section, so it doesn't get the focus when a definition is displayed. This
means that you have to use the JAWS cursor to read the definition after you
find it.
Looking up more than one word causes definitions to appear under multiple
tabs. I'm not sure how useful this is. You can set the number of tabs you
want in Options. I set this option to 1 until I find out what benefit
multiple tabs would be to me. If you did want multiple tabs, you would want
to be able to switch among them with Control plus Tab.
That's about all I've learned so far. It might be interesting to compare
the definitions of several words to definitions in other dictionaries to get
an idea of how good this dictionary is in areas other than accessibility.
Gary King
w4wkz@...
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From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 10:44 AM
Subject: The Sage Dictionary
Hi. I am posting to bring attention to what appears to be a very good
dictionary that can be loaded onto a computer, thus avoiding the need of
going online, and whose owner says it is open to accessibility
improvements.
The company has asked me to inform it of my experience, and I'm hoping
that
others on the list will find such a resource valuable enough to want to
send
along your own accessibility reports.
The Sage dictionary is free, although we are ask to make a nominal
contribution if we find it useful. Information and download links are
here:
http://www.sequencepublishing.com/thesage.html#download
All I've done so far is figure out how to locate and read a definition. It
requires turning off graphics and using the JAWS cursor. As some of you
will
realize from my many recent posts, I am buried in the tasks of learning
Win7
and Office 2010, or else I would have delved deeper. Again, I'm hoping
some
of you share my interest in a quality, free or low-cost off-line
dictionary
and would be willing to assess and report other accessibility issues.
The address to send comments to is:
info@...
To conclude, here's what a company representative named Frank wrote to me
last night:
Please let us know of your progress.
We have long toyed with the idea of creating a macro-option that would
automatically adjust all the individual options to values that are
best suited to the visually impaired. Unfortunately, our lack of
experience
in this area is complete.
You might want to know that a complete redesign of TheSage is in its
preliminary stages. We don't have any dates yet but this could be a
great opportunity to build in accessibility features from the start.
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You gave me a lead to the AHD, which I would love to have. Since I don't
have Openbook, I just now googled it and determined two things:
1. The version (4) that might be usable in Win7 has navigation issues even
for sighted people , and
2. It may not work in 64-bit systems even though it should on 32-bit Win7.
I guess I'm curious if you know whether the version on OpenBook is 4. Beyond
that, I suggest you hang on to Openbook and your AHD through thick and thin.
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-----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Gary King Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 4:59 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: The Sage Dictionary Adrian, I haven't really needed an off-line dictionary since I bought Open Book. It includes the American Heritage Dictionary. If I need something more portable, I grab my little Franklin Language Master that I've had for about 20 years. Gary King w4wkz@... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 3:07 PM Subject: RE: The Sage Dictionary Yes, and because you need to use the JAWS cursor to read the definition,
you
must virtualize the window with JAWS key+alt+w in order to make a copy.
Gary, do you know of any other good off-line dictionaries? With Windows
XP,
I had the Webster's Random House, which I liked a lot, but it hasn't been
updated to work correctly with Win7.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Gary King
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 3:31 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: The Sage Dictionary
I installed the Sage Dictionary and took it for a spin. Switching
graphics
to None in Quick Settings gets rid of some of the clutter on the screen.
The most obvious problem is that there is no cursor in the definition
section, so it doesn't get the focus when a definition is displayed. This
means that you have to use the JAWS cursor to read the definition after
you
find it.
Looking up more than one word causes definitions to appear under multiple
tabs. I'm not sure how useful this is. You can set the number of tabs
you
want in Options. I set this option to 1 until I find out what benefit
multiple tabs would be to me. If you did want multiple tabs, you would
want
to be able to switch among them with Control plus Tab.
That's about all I've learned so far. It might be interesting to compare
the definitions of several words to definitions in other dictionaries to
get
an idea of how good this dictionary is in areas other than accessibility.
Gary King
w4wkz@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 10:44 AM
Subject: The Sage Dictionary
Hi. I am posting to bring attention to what appears to be a very good
dictionary that can be loaded onto a computer, thus avoiding the need of
going online, and whose owner says it is open to accessibility
improvements.
The company has asked me to inform it of my experience, and I'm hoping
that
others on the list will find such a resource valuable enough to want to
send
along your own accessibility reports.
The Sage dictionary is free, although we are ask to make a nominal
contribution if we find it useful. Information and download links are
here:
http://www.sequencepublishing.com/thesage.html#download
All I've done so far is figure out how to locate and read a definition.
It
requires turning off graphics and using the JAWS cursor. As some of you
will
realize from my many recent posts, I am buried in the tasks of learning
Win7
and Office 2010, or else I would have delved deeper. Again, I'm hoping
some
of you share my interest in a quality, free or low-cost off-line
dictionary
and would be willing to assess and report other accessibility issues.
The address to send comments to is:
info@...
To conclude, here's what a company representative named Frank wrote to me
last night:
Please let us know of your progress.
We have long toyed with the idea of creating a macro-option that would
automatically adjust all the individual options to values that are
best suited to the visually impaired. Unfortunately, our lack of
experience
in this area is complete.
You might want to know that a complete redesign of TheSage is in its
preliminary stages. We don't have any dates yet but this could be a
great opportunity to build in accessibility features from the start.
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Don't forget Wordweb that in its basic version is free and accessible out of the box. It is a wonderful dictionary and thesaurus for the English language that I have been using since before I lost my sight in 1998.
I have not used the Sage dictionary though I think I have a copy of it flying around here somewhere.
Cheers,
Doris
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I haven't really needed an off-line dictionary since I bought Open Book. It includes the American Heritage Dictionary. If I need something more portable, I grab my little Franklin Language Master that I've had for about 20 years.
Gary King
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 3:07 PM
Subject: RE: The Sage Dictionary
Yes, and because you need to use the JAWS cursor to read the definition, you
must virtualize the window with JAWS key+alt+w in order to make a copy.
Gary, do you know of any other good off-line dictionaries? With Windows XP,
I had the Webster's Random House, which I liked a lot, but it hasn't been
updated to work correctly with Win7.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Gary King
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 3:31 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: The Sage Dictionary
I installed the Sage Dictionary and took it for a spin. Switching graphics
to None in Quick Settings gets rid of some of the clutter on the screen.
The most obvious problem is that there is no cursor in the definition
section, so it doesn't get the focus when a definition is displayed. This
means that you have to use the JAWS cursor to read the definition after you
find it.
Looking up more than one word causes definitions to appear under multiple
tabs. I'm not sure how useful this is. You can set the number of tabs you
want in Options. I set this option to 1 until I find out what benefit
multiple tabs would be to me. If you did want multiple tabs, you would want
to be able to switch among them with Control plus Tab.
That's about all I've learned so far. It might be interesting to compare
the definitions of several words to definitions in other dictionaries to get
an idea of how good this dictionary is in areas other than accessibility.
Gary King
w4wkz@...
----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 10:44 AM
Subject: The Sage Dictionary
Hi. I am posting to bring attention to what appears to be a very good
dictionary that can be loaded onto a computer, thus avoiding the need of
going online, and whose owner says it is open to accessibility
improvements.
The company has asked me to inform it of my experience, and I'm hoping
that
others on the list will find such a resource valuable enough to want to
send
along your own accessibility reports.
The Sage dictionary is free, although we are ask to make a nominal
contribution if we find it useful. Information and download links are
here:
http://www.sequencepublishing.com/thesage.html#download
All I've done so far is figure out how to locate and read a definition. It
requires turning off graphics and using the JAWS cursor. As some of you
will
realize from my many recent posts, I am buried in the tasks of learning
Win7
and Office 2010, or else I would have delved deeper. Again, I'm hoping
some
of you share my interest in a quality, free or low-cost off-line
dictionary
and would be willing to assess and report other accessibility issues.
The address to send comments to is:
info@...
To conclude, here's what a company representative named Frank wrote to me
last night:
Please let us know of your progress.
We have long toyed with the idea of creating a macro-option that would
automatically adjust all the individual options to values that are
best suited to the visually impaired. Unfortunately, our lack of
experience
in this area is complete.
You might want to know that a complete redesign of TheSage is in its
preliminary stages. We don't have any dates yet but this could be a
great opportunity to build in accessibility features from the start.
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I suspect that FS put their own user interface on the dictionary no matter what version they are using. They are using commercially available OCR engines with Open Book, but the user interface is quite different.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 5:34 PM Subject: RE: The Sage Dictionary You gave me a lead to the AHD, which I would love to have. Since I don't
have Openbook, I just now googled it and determined two things:
1. The version (4) that might be usable in Win7 has navigation issues even
for sighted people , and
2. It may not work in 64-bit systems even though it should on 32-bit Win7.
I guess I'm curious if you know whether the version on OpenBook is 4. Beyond
that, I suggest you hang on to Openbook and your AHD through thick and thin.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Gary King
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 4:59 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: The Sage Dictionary
Adrian,
I haven't really needed an off-line dictionary since I bought Open Book. It
includes the American Heritage Dictionary. If I need something more
portable, I grab my little Franklin Language Master that I've had for about
20 years.
Gary King
w4wkz@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 3:07 PM
Subject: RE: The Sage Dictionary
Yes, and because you need to use the JAWS cursor to read the definition,
you
must virtualize the window with JAWS key+alt+w in order to make a copy.
Gary, do you know of any other good off-line dictionaries? With Windows
XP,
I had the Webster's Random House, which I liked a lot, but it hasn't been
updated to work correctly with Win7.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Gary King
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 3:31 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: The Sage Dictionary
I installed the Sage Dictionary and took it for a spin. Switching
graphics
to None in Quick Settings gets rid of some of the clutter on the screen.
The most obvious problem is that there is no cursor in the definition
section, so it doesn't get the focus when a definition is displayed. This
means that you have to use the JAWS cursor to read the definition after
you
find it.
Looking up more than one word causes definitions to appear under multiple
tabs. I'm not sure how useful this is. You can set the number of tabs
you
want in Options. I set this option to 1 until I find out what benefit
multiple tabs would be to me. If you did want multiple tabs, you would
want
to be able to switch among them with Control plus Tab.
That's about all I've learned so far. It might be interesting to compare
the definitions of several words to definitions in other dictionaries to
get
an idea of how good this dictionary is in areas other than accessibility.
Gary King
w4wkz@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 10:44 AM
Subject: The Sage Dictionary
Hi. I am posting to bring attention to what appears to be a very good
dictionary that can be loaded onto a computer, thus avoiding the need of
going online, and whose owner says it is open to accessibility
improvements.
The company has asked me to inform it of my experience, and I'm hoping
that
others on the list will find such a resource valuable enough to want to
send
along your own accessibility reports.
The Sage dictionary is free, although we are ask to make a nominal
contribution if we find it useful. Information and download links are
here:
http://www.sequencepublishing.com/thesage.html#download
All I've done so far is figure out how to locate and read a definition.
It
requires turning off graphics and using the JAWS cursor. As some of you
will
realize from my many recent posts, I am buried in the tasks of learning
Win7
and Office 2010, or else I would have delved deeper. Again, I'm hoping
some
of you share my interest in a quality, free or low-cost off-line
dictionary
and would be willing to assess and report other accessibility issues.
The address to send comments to is:
info@...
To conclude, here's what a company representative named Frank wrote to me
last night:
Please let us know of your progress.
We have long toyed with the idea of creating a macro-option that would
automatically adjust all the individual options to values that are
best suited to the visually impaired. Unfortunately, our lack of
experience
in this area is complete.
You might want to know that a complete redesign of TheSage is in its
preliminary stages. We don't have any dates yet but this could be a
great opportunity to build in accessibility features from the start.
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Where can i get it?
Is it possible to use it off line?
Thanks.
Angela from Italy.
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-----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Doris and Chris Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 1:19 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: The Sage Dictionary Don't forget Wordweb that in its basic version is free and accessible out of the box. It is a wonderful dictionary and thesaurus for the English language that I have been using since before I lost my sight in 1998. I have not used the Sage dictionary though I think I have a copy of it flying around here somewhere. Cheers, Doris At 03:59 PM 2/10/2013 -0600, you wrote: Adrian,
I haven't really needed an off-line dictionary since I bought Open
Book. It includes the American Heritage Dictionary. If I need
something more portable, I grab my little Franklin Language Master that
I've had for about 20 years.
Gary King
w4wkz@...
----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Spratt"
<Adrian@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 3:07 PM
Subject: RE: The Sage Dictionary
Yes, and because you need to use the JAWS cursor to read the
definition, you must virtualize the window with JAWS key+alt+w in order to make a copy.
Gary, do you know of any other good off-line dictionaries? With
Windows XP, I had the Webster's Random House, which I liked a lot, but
it hasn't been updated to work correctly with Win7.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Gary
King
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 3:31 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: The Sage Dictionary
I installed the Sage Dictionary and took it for a spin. Switching
graphics to None in Quick Settings gets rid of some of the clutter on the
screen.
The most obvious problem is that there is no cursor in the definition
section, so it doesn't get the focus when a definition is displayed.
This means that you have to use the JAWS cursor to read the definition
after you find it.
Looking up more than one word causes definitions to appear under
multiple tabs. I'm not sure how useful this is. You can set the
number of tabs you want in Options. I set this option to 1 until I
find out what benefit multiple tabs would be to me. If you did want
multiple tabs, you would want
to be able to switch among them with Control plus Tab.
That's about all I've learned so far. It might be interesting to
compare the definitions of several words to definitions in other
dictionaries to get
an idea of how good this dictionary is in areas other than accessibility.
Gary King
w4wkz@...
----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Spratt"
<Adrian@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 10:44 AM
Subject: The Sage Dictionary
Hi. I am posting to bring attention to what appears to be a very good
dictionary that can be loaded onto a computer, thus avoiding the need
of going online, and whose owner says it is open to accessibility
improvements.
The company has asked me to inform it of my experience, and I'm
hoping that others on the list will find such a resource valuable
enough to want to send along your own accessibility reports.
The Sage dictionary is free, although we are ask to make a nominal
contribution if we find it useful. Information and download links are
here:
http://www.sequencepublishing.com/thesage.html#download
All I've done so far is figure out how to locate and read a
definition. It requires turning off graphics and using the JAWS
cursor. As some of you will realize from my many recent posts, I am
buried in the tasks of learning
Win7
and Office 2010, or else I would have delved deeper. Again, I'm
hoping some of you share my interest in a quality, free or low-cost
off-line dictionary and would be willing to assess and report other
accessibility issues.
The address to send comments to is:
info@...
To conclude, here's what a company representative named Frank wrote
to me last night:
Please let us know of your progress.
We have long toyed with the idea of creating a macro-option that
would automatically adjust all the individual options to values that
are
best suited to the visually impaired. Unfortunately, our lack of
experience in this area is complete.
You might want to know that a complete redesign of TheSage is in
its preliminary stages. We don't have any dates yet but this could be
a
great opportunity to build in accessibility features from the start.
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-----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Angela Delicata Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 11:18 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: The Sage Dictionary Where can i get it? Is it possible to use it off line? Thanks. Angela from Italy. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Doris and Chris Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 1:19 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: The Sage Dictionary Don't forget Wordweb that in its basic version is free and accessible out of the box. It is a wonderful dictionary and thesaurus for the English language that I have been using since before I lost my sight in 1998. I have not used the Sage dictionary though I think I have a copy of it flying around here somewhere. Cheers, Doris At 03:59 PM 2/10/2013 -0600, you wrote: Adrian,
I haven't really needed an off-line dictionary since I bought Open
Book. It includes the American Heritage Dictionary. If I need
something more portable, I grab my little Franklin Language Master that
I've had for about 20 years.
Gary King
w4wkz@...
----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Spratt"
<Adrian@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 3:07 PM
Subject: RE: The Sage Dictionary
Yes, and because you need to use the JAWS cursor to read the
definition, you must virtualize the window with JAWS key+alt+w in
order to make a copy.
Gary, do you know of any other good off-line dictionaries? With
Windows XP, I had the Webster's Random House, which I liked a lot, but
it hasn't been updated to work correctly with Win7.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Gary
King
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 3:31 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: The Sage Dictionary
I installed the Sage Dictionary and took it for a spin. Switching
graphics to None in Quick Settings gets rid of some of the clutter on
the
screen.
The most obvious problem is that there is no cursor in the definition
section, so it doesn't get the focus when a definition is displayed.
This means that you have to use the JAWS cursor to read the definition
after you find it.
Looking up more than one word causes definitions to appear under
multiple tabs. I'm not sure how useful this is. You can set the
number of tabs you want in Options. I set this option to 1 until I
find out what benefit multiple tabs would be to me. If you did want
multiple tabs, you would want
to be able to switch among them with Control plus Tab.
That's about all I've learned so far. It might be interesting to
compare the definitions of several words to definitions in other
dictionaries to get
an idea of how good this dictionary is in areas other than accessibility.
Gary King
w4wkz@...
----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Spratt"
<Adrian@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 10:44 AM
Subject: The Sage Dictionary
Hi. I am posting to bring attention to what appears to be a very good
dictionary that can be loaded onto a computer, thus avoiding the need
of going online, and whose owner says it is open to accessibility
improvements.
The company has asked me to inform it of my experience, and I'm
hoping that others on the list will find such a resource valuable
enough to want to send along your own accessibility reports.
The Sage dictionary is free, although we are ask to make a nominal
contribution if we find it useful. Information and download links are
here:
http://www.sequencepublishing.com/thesage.html#download
All I've done so far is figure out how to locate and read a
definition. It requires turning off graphics and using the JAWS
cursor. As some of you will realize from my many recent posts, I am
buried in the tasks of learning
Win7
and Office 2010, or else I would have delved deeper. Again, I'm
hoping some of you share my interest in a quality, free or low-cost
off-line dictionary and would be willing to assess and report other
accessibility issues.
The address to send comments to is:
info@...
To conclude, here's what a company representative named Frank wrote
to me last night:
Please let us know of your progress.
We have long toyed with the idea of creating a macro-option that
would automatically adjust all the individual options to values that
are
best suited to the visually impaired. Unfortunately, our lack of
experience in this area is complete.
You might want to know that a complete redesign of TheSage is in
its preliminary stages. We don't have any dates yet but this could be
a
great opportunity to build in accessibility features from the start.
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I haven't really needed an off-line dictionary since I bought Open
Book. It includes the American Heritage Dictionary. If I need
something more portable, I grab my little Franklin Language Master that
I've had for about 20 years.
Gary King
w4wkz@...
----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Spratt"
<Adrian@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 3:07 PM
Subject: RE: The Sage Dictionary
Yes, and because you need to use the JAWS cursor to read the
definition, you must virtualize the window with JAWS key+alt+w in
order to make a copy.
Gary, do you know of any other good off-line dictionaries? With
Windows XP, I had the Webster's Random House, which I liked a lot, but
it hasn't been updated to work correctly with Win7.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Gary
King
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 3:31 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: The Sage Dictionary
I installed the Sage Dictionary and took it for a spin. Switching
graphics to None in Quick Settings gets rid of some of the clutter on
the
screen.
The most obvious problem is that there is no cursor in the definition
section, so it doesn't get the focus when a definition is displayed.
This means that you have to use the JAWS cursor to read the definition
after you find it.
Looking up more than one word causes definitions to appear under
multiple tabs. I'm not sure how useful this is. You can set the
number of tabs you want in Options. I set this option to 1 until I
find out what benefit multiple tabs would be to me. If you did want
multiple tabs, you would want
to be able to switch among them with Control plus Tab.
That's about all I've learned so far. It might be interesting to
compare the definitions of several words to definitions in other
dictionaries to get
an idea of how good this dictionary is in areas other than accessibility.
Gary King
w4wkz@...
----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Spratt"
<Adrian@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 10:44 AM
Subject: The Sage Dictionary
Hi. I am posting to bring attention to what appears to be a very good
dictionary that can be loaded onto a computer, thus avoiding the need
of going online, and whose owner says it is open to accessibility
improvements.
The company has asked me to inform it of my experience, and I'm
hoping that others on the list will find such a resource valuable
enough to want to send along your own accessibility reports.
The Sage dictionary is free, although we are ask to make a nominal
contribution if we find it useful. Information and download links are
here:
http://www.sequencepublishing.com/thesage.html#download
All I've done so far is figure out how to locate and read a
definition. It requires turning off graphics and using the JAWS
cursor. As some of you will realize from my many recent posts, I am
buried in the tasks of learning
Win7
and Office 2010, or else I would have delved deeper. Again, I'm
hoping some of you share my interest in a quality, free or low-cost
off-line dictionary and would be willing to assess and report other
accessibility issues.
The address to send comments to is:
info@...
To conclude, here's what a company representative named Frank wrote
to me last night:
Please let us know of your progress.
We have long toyed with the idea of creating a macro-option that
would automatically adjust all the individual options to values that
are
best suited to the visually impaired. Unfortunately, our lack of
experience in this area is complete.
You might want to know that a complete redesign of TheSage is in
its preliminary stages. We don't have any dates yet but this could be
a
great opportunity to build in accessibility features from the start.
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Frank at Sequence Publishing would like to make the Sage Dictionary accessible. He is leaning toward a Screen Reader Mode that would switch to a more accessible configuration. He would like to see an example of such a program. I looked through the programs on my Windows 7 computer and couldn't find an example. I was also checking my computer for programs that were screen reader friendly without the use of scripts or JAWS configuration changes, but I couldn't really find any examples either. If anyone has suggestions of programs, preferably free or shareware, that Frank could look at for good examples of accessibility, pass them along.
Gary King
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary King" <w4wkz@...> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 2:30 PM Subject: Re: The Sage Dictionary I installed the Sage Dictionary and took it for a spin. Switching graphics to None in Quick Settings gets rid of some of the clutter on the screen.
The most obvious problem is that there is no cursor in the definition section, so it doesn't get the focus when a definition is displayed. This means that you have to use the JAWS cursor to read the definition after you find it.
Looking up more than one word causes definitions to appear under multiple tabs. I'm not sure how useful this is. You can set the number of tabs you want in Options. I set this option to 1 until I find out what benefit multiple tabs would be to me. If you did want multiple tabs, you would want to be able to switch among them with Control plus Tab.
That's about all I've learned so far. It might be interesting to compare the definitions of several words to definitions in other dictionaries to get an idea of how good this dictionary is in areas other than accessibility.
Gary King
w4wkz@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 10:44 AM
Subject: The Sage Dictionary
Hi. I am posting to bring attention to what appears to be a very good
dictionary that can be loaded onto a computer, thus avoiding the need of
going online, and whose owner says it is open to accessibility improvements.
The company has asked me to inform it of my experience, and I'm hoping that
others on the list will find such a resource valuable enough to want to send
along your own accessibility reports.
The Sage dictionary is free, although we are ask to make a nominal
contribution if we find it useful. Information and download links are here:
http://www.sequencepublishing.com/thesage.html#download
All I've done so far is figure out how to locate and read a definition. It
requires turning off graphics and using the JAWS cursor. As some of you will
realize from my many recent posts, I am buried in the tasks of learning Win7
and Office 2010, or else I would have delved deeper. Again, I'm hoping some
of you share my interest in a quality, free or low-cost off-line dictionary
and would be willing to assess and report other accessibility issues.
The address to send comments to is:
info@...
To conclude, here's what a company representative named Frank wrote to me
last night:
Please let us know of your progress.
We have long toyed with the idea of creating a macro-option that would
automatically adjust all the individual options to values that are
best suited to the visually impaired. Unfortunately, our lack of experience
in this area is complete.
You might want to know that a complete redesign of TheSage is in its
preliminary stages. We don't have any dates yet but this could be a
great opportunity to build in accessibility features from the start.
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Looking at the files in the sage directory it appears that they are
using a very old version of MFC.
Under that environment the best I could suggest would be to always use
standard controls and let accessibility take care of itself.
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On 2/11/13, Gary King <w4wkz@...> wrote: Frank at Sequence Publishing would like to make the Sage Dictionary
accessible. He is leaning toward a Screen Reader Mode that would switch to
a more accessible configuration. He would like to see an example of such a
program. I looked through the programs on my Windows 7 computer and
couldn't find an example. I was also checking my computer for programs that
were screen reader friendly without the use of scripts or JAWS configuration
changes, but I couldn't really find any examples either. If anyone has
suggestions of programs, preferably free or shareware, that Frank could look
at for good examples of accessibility, pass them along.
Gary King
w4wkz@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary King" <w4wkz@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 2:30 PM
Subject: Re: The Sage Dictionary
I installed the Sage Dictionary and took it for a spin. Switching graphics
to None in Quick Settings gets rid of some of the clutter on the screen.
The most obvious problem is that there is no cursor in the definition
section, so it doesn't get the focus when a definition is displayed. This
means that you have to use the JAWS cursor to read the definition after
you find it.
Looking up more than one word causes definitions to appear under multiple
tabs. I'm not sure how useful this is. You can set the number of tabs
you want in Options. I set this option to 1 until I find out what benefit
multiple tabs would be to me. If you did want multiple tabs, you would
want to be able to switch among them with Control plus Tab.
That's about all I've learned so far. It might be interesting to compare
the definitions of several words to definitions in other dictionaries to
get an idea of how good this dictionary is in areas other than
accessibility.
Gary King
w4wkz@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 10:44 AM
Subject: The Sage Dictionary
Hi. I am posting to bring attention to what appears to be a very good
dictionary that can be loaded onto a computer, thus avoiding the need of
going online, and whose owner says it is open to accessibility
improvements.
The company has asked me to inform it of my experience, and I'm hoping
that
others on the list will find such a resource valuable enough to want to
send
along your own accessibility reports.
The Sage dictionary is free, although we are ask to make a nominal
contribution if we find it useful. Information and download links are
here:
http://www.sequencepublishing.com/thesage.html#download
All I've done so far is figure out how to locate and read a definition.
It
requires turning off graphics and using the JAWS cursor. As some of you
will
realize from my many recent posts, I am buried in the tasks of learning
Win7
and Office 2010, or else I would have delved deeper. Again, I'm hoping
some
of you share my interest in a quality, free or low-cost off-line
dictionary
and would be willing to assess and report other accessibility issues.
The address to send comments to is:
info@...
To conclude, here's what a company representative named Frank wrote to
me
last night:
Please let us know of your progress.
We have long toyed with the idea of creating a macro-option that would
automatically adjust all the individual options to values that are
best suited to the visually impaired. Unfortunately, our lack of
experience
in this area is complete.
You might want to know that a complete redesign of TheSage is in its
preliminary stages. We don't have any dates yet but this could be a
great opportunity to build in accessibility features from the start.
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Doris,
I took your advice and downloaded Wordweb. It is easy to understand and
navigate. It ought to meet my needs for an off-line dictionary. For me, and
others, it has only one problem that I've noticed so far, but it's a very
distracting one. Each time I open a definition, JAWS says, "Read only edit."
Each time I arrow down through the definition, I get the same verbalization:
"Read only edit. Read only edit."
Have you experienced this? If so, have you solved it?
I'm using Win7 with JAWS 14. I've tested a few options in the quick settings
dialog, but without success. I virtualized the definition window and
switched off the meddlesome graphics, but other random words entered into
the window and disrupted the flow.
So far, Wordweb is the best option, but I think "Read only edit" is going to
haunt my dreams and prevent me from taking advantage of it unless you or
someone else tells me how to make it go away.
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-----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Doris and Chris Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 7:19 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: The Sage Dictionary Don't forget Wordweb that in its basic version is free and accessible out of the box. It is a wonderful dictionary and thesaurus for the English language that I have been using since before I lost my sight in 1998. I have not used the Sage dictionary though I think I have a copy of it flying around here somewhere. Cheers, Doris At 03:59 PM 2/10/2013 -0600, you wrote: Adrian,
I haven't really needed an off-line dictionary since I bought Open
Book. It includes the American Heritage Dictionary. If I need
something more portable, I grab my little Franklin Language Master
that I've had for about 20 years.
Gary King
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 3:07 PM
Subject: RE: The Sage Dictionary
Yes, and because you need to use the JAWS cursor to read the definition, you must virtualize the window with JAWS key+alt+w in order to make a copy.
Gary, do you know of any other good off-line dictionaries? With Windows
XP, I had the Webster's Random House, which I liked a lot, but it hasn't been
updated to work correctly with Win7.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Gary King
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 3:31 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: The Sage Dictionary
I installed the Sage Dictionary and took it for a spin. Switching
graphics to None in Quick Settings gets rid of some of the clutter on the screen.
The most obvious problem is that there is no cursor in the definition
section, so it doesn't get the focus when a definition is displayed. This
means that you have to use the JAWS cursor to read the definition after
you find it.
Looking up more than one word causes definitions to appear under multiple
tabs. I'm not sure how useful this is. You can set the number of tabs
you want in Options. I set this option to 1 until I find out what benefit
multiple tabs would be to me. If you did want multiple tabs, you would
want
to be able to switch among them with Control plus Tab.
That's about all I've learned so far. It might be interesting to compare
the definitions of several words to definitions in other dictionaries to
get
an idea of how good this dictionary is in areas other than accessibility.
Gary King
w4wkz@...
----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Spratt"
<Adrian@...> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 10:44 AM
Subject: The Sage Dictionary
Hi. I am posting to bring attention to what appears to be a very good
dictionary that can be loaded onto a computer, thus avoiding the need of
going online, and whose owner says it is open to accessibility
improvements.
The company has asked me to inform it of my experience, and I'm hoping
that
others on the list will find such a resource valuable enough to want to
send
along your own accessibility reports.
The Sage dictionary is free, although we are ask to make a nominal
contribution if we find it useful. Information and download links are
here:
http://www.sequencepublishing.com/thesage.html#download
All I've done so far is figure out how to locate and read a definition.
It requires turning off graphics and using the JAWS cursor. As some of you
will
realize from my many recent posts, I am buried in the tasks of learning
Win7
and Office 2010, or else I would have delved deeper. Again, I'm hoping
some
of you share my interest in a quality, free or low-cost off-line
dictionary
and would be willing to assess and report other accessibility issues.
The address to send comments to is:
info@...
To conclude, here's what a company representative named Frank wrote to me
last night:
Please let us know of your progress.
We have long toyed with the idea of creating a macro-option that would
automatically adjust all the individual options to values that are
best suited to the visually impaired. Unfortunately, our lack of
experience
in this area is complete.
You might want to know that a complete redesign of TheSage is in its
preliminary stages. We don't have any dates yet but this could be a
great opportunity to build in accessibility features from the start.
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You could replace the words "read only edit" through the Jaws dictionary
manager--(alt d) to enter the manager and simply replace those words with a
space. This is the default entry that will be active across all
applications. You could also use the app-specific dictionary manager.
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-----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: February-13-13 7:42 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: The Sage Dictionary Doris, I took your advice and downloaded Wordweb. It is easy to understand and navigate. It ought to meet my needs for an off-line dictionary. For me, and others, it has only one problem that I've noticed so far, but it's a very distracting one. Each time I open a definition, JAWS says, "Read only edit." Each time I arrow down through the definition, I get the same verbalization: "Read only edit. Read only edit." Have you experienced this? If so, have you solved it? I'm using Win7 with JAWS 14. I've tested a few options in the quick settings dialog, but without success. I virtualized the definition window and switched off the meddlesome graphics, but other random words entered into the window and disrupted the flow. So far, Wordweb is the best option, but I think "Read only edit" is going to haunt my dreams and prevent me from taking advantage of it unless you or someone else tells me how to make it go away. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Doris and Chris Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 7:19 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: The Sage Dictionary Don't forget Wordweb that in its basic version is free and accessible out of the box. It is a wonderful dictionary and thesaurus for the English language that I have been using since before I lost my sight in 1998. I have not used the Sage dictionary though I think I have a copy of it flying around here somewhere. Cheers, Doris At 03:59 PM 2/10/2013 -0600, you wrote: Adrian,
I haven't really needed an off-line dictionary since I bought Open
Book. It includes the American Heritage Dictionary. If I need
something more portable, I grab my little Franklin Language Master that
I've had for about 20 years.
Gary King
w4wkz@...
----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 3:07 PM
Subject: RE: The Sage Dictionary
Yes, and because you need to use the JAWS cursor to read the
definition, you must virtualize the window with JAWS key+alt+w in order to make a copy.
Gary, do you know of any other good off-line dictionaries? With
Windows
XP, I had the Webster's Random House, which I liked a lot, but it hasn't
been updated to work correctly with Win7.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Gary
King
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 3:31 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: The Sage Dictionary
I installed the Sage Dictionary and took it for a spin. Switching
graphics to None in Quick Settings gets rid of some of the clutter on the screen.
The most obvious problem is that there is no cursor in the definition
section, so it doesn't get the focus when a definition is displayed.
This means that you have to use the JAWS cursor to read the definition
after
you find it.
Looking up more than one word causes definitions to appear under
multiple tabs. I'm not sure how useful this is. You can set the
number of tabs
you want in Options. I set this option to 1 until I find out what benefit
multiple tabs would be to me. If you did want multiple tabs, you
would
want
to be able to switch among them with Control plus Tab.
That's about all I've learned so far. It might be interesting to
compare the definitions of several words to definitions in other
dictionaries to
get
an idea of how good this dictionary is in areas other than accessibility.
Gary King
w4wkz@...
----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Spratt"
<Adrian@...> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 10:44 AM
Subject: The Sage Dictionary
Hi. I am posting to bring attention to what appears to be a very good
dictionary that can be loaded onto a computer, thus avoiding the need
of going online, and whose owner says it is open to accessibility
improvements.
The company has asked me to inform it of my experience, and I'm
hoping that others on the list will find such a resource valuable
enough to want to send along your own accessibility reports.
The Sage dictionary is free, although we are ask to make a nominal
contribution if we find it useful. Information and download links are
here:
http://www.sequencepublishing.com/thesage.html#download
All I've done so far is figure out how to locate and read a definition.
It requires turning off graphics and using the JAWS cursor. As some of
you will realize from my many recent posts, I am buried in the tasks
of learning
Win7
and Office 2010, or else I would have delved deeper. Again, I'm
hoping some of you share my interest in a quality, free or low-cost
off-line dictionary and would be willing to assess and report other
accessibility issues.
The address to send comments to is:
info@...
To conclude, here's what a company representative named Frank wrote
to me last night:
Please let us know of your progress.
We have long toyed with the idea of creating a macro-option that
would automatically adjust all the individual options to values that
are
best suited to the visually impaired. Unfortunately, our lack of
experience in this area is complete.
You might want to know that a complete redesign of TheSage is in
its preliminary stages. We don't have any dates yet but this could be
a
great opportunity to build in accessibility features from the start.
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Thanks to Tom, Doris and Robert. Now "Read only edit" is vanquished.
I'd tried both your suggestion, Tom (great minds!), but they didn't work.
I've just done as Robert suggested, and so far so good. Note that you enter
the JAWS dictionary with JAWS key+d. I'm so accustomed to pressing
control-shift-d for the JAWS dictionary's global setting that I forgot the
default is to limit pronunciation changes to the open application.
Doris, thanks for alerting me to the scripts, which I'll be looking into.
However, I'm not sure they're needed because I've been able to access each
of the Wordweb functions I've tried so far.
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-----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of robert hebert Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 12:38 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: The Sage Dictionary You could replace the words "read only edit" through the Jaws dictionary manager--(alt d) to enter the manager and simply replace those words with a space. This is the default entry that will be active across all applications. You could also use the app-specific dictionary manager. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: February-13-13 7:42 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: The Sage Dictionary Doris, I took your advice and downloaded Wordweb. It is easy to understand and navigate. It ought to meet my needs for an off-line dictionary. For me, and others, it has only one problem that I've noticed so far, but it's a very distracting one. Each time I open a definition, JAWS says, "Read only edit." Each time I arrow down through the definition, I get the same verbalization: "Read only edit. Read only edit." Have you experienced this? If so, have you solved it? I'm using Win7 with JAWS 14. I've tested a few options in the quick settings dialog, but without success. I virtualized the definition window and switched off the meddlesome graphics, but other random words entered into the window and disrupted the flow. So far, Wordweb is the best option, but I think "Read only edit" is going to haunt my dreams and prevent me from taking advantage of it unless you or someone else tells me how to make it go away. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Doris and Chris Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 7:19 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: The Sage Dictionary Don't forget Wordweb that in its basic version is free and accessible out of the box. It is a wonderful dictionary and thesaurus for the English language that I have been using since before I lost my sight in 1998. I have not used the Sage dictionary though I think I have a copy of it flying around here somewhere. Cheers, Doris At 03:59 PM 2/10/2013 -0600, you wrote: Adrian,
I haven't really needed an off-line dictionary since I bought Open
Book. It includes the American Heritage Dictionary. If I need
something more portable, I grab my little Franklin Language Master that
I've had for about 20 years.
Gary King
w4wkz@...
----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 3:07 PM
Subject: RE: The Sage Dictionary
Yes, and because you need to use the JAWS cursor to read the
definition, you must virtualize the window with JAWS key+alt+w in order to make a copy.
Gary, do you know of any other good off-line dictionaries? With
Windows
XP, I had the Webster's Random House, which I liked a lot, but it hasn't
been updated to work correctly with Win7.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Gary
King
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 3:31 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: The Sage Dictionary
I installed the Sage Dictionary and took it for a spin. Switching
graphics to None in Quick Settings gets rid of some of the clutter on the screen.
The most obvious problem is that there is no cursor in the definition
section, so it doesn't get the focus when a definition is displayed.
This means that you have to use the JAWS cursor to read the definition
after
you find it.
Looking up more than one word causes definitions to appear under
multiple tabs. I'm not sure how useful this is. You can set the
number of tabs
you want in Options. I set this option to 1 until I find out what benefit
multiple tabs would be to me. If you did want multiple tabs, you
would
want
to be able to switch among them with Control plus Tab.
That's about all I've learned so far. It might be interesting to
compare the definitions of several words to definitions in other
dictionaries to
get
an idea of how good this dictionary is in areas other than accessibility.
Gary King
w4wkz@...
----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Spratt"
<Adrian@...> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 10:44 AM
Subject: The Sage Dictionary
Hi. I am posting to bring attention to what appears to be a very good
dictionary that can be loaded onto a computer, thus avoiding the need
of going online, and whose owner says it is open to accessibility
improvements.
The company has asked me to inform it of my experience, and I'm
hoping that others on the list will find such a resource valuable
enough to want to send along your own accessibility reports.
The Sage dictionary is free, although we are ask to make a nominal
contribution if we find it useful. Information and download links are
here:
http://www.sequencepublishing.com/thesage.html#download
All I've done so far is figure out how to locate and read a definition.
It requires turning off graphics and using the JAWS cursor. As some of
you will realize from my many recent posts, I am buried in the tasks
of learning
Win7
and Office 2010, or else I would have delved deeper. Again, I'm
hoping some of you share my interest in a quality, free or low-cost
off-line dictionary and would be willing to assess and report other
accessibility issues.
The address to send comments to is:
info@...
To conclude, here's what a company representative named Frank wrote
to me last night:
Please let us know of your progress.
We have long toyed with the idea of creating a macro-option that
would automatically adjust all the individual options to values that
are
best suited to the visually impaired. Unfortunately, our lack of
experience in this area is complete.
You might want to know that a complete redesign of TheSage is in
its preliminary stages. We don't have any dates yet but this could be
a
great opportunity to build in accessibility features from the start.
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