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I doubt it, unless you enable the sticky keys feature in the accessibility
page, then carefully use that key sequence on Fn. However no guarantee that
sticky keys will work with Fn.
Dave Carlson
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Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit
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sticky keys don't work on the fn key I've tried it countless of times.
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Sort of what I thought.
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http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com Hi Kevin I think what you should do is activate sticky keys you can do this by pression the shift key six times and then it whenever Kievit you want stuck him twice and then type whatever you need to type with that key stuck I hope that helped
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Joseph Hudson <jhud7789@...>
Well you might be out of luck since it doesn't work
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-----Original Message----- From: Farfar Carlson
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 2:43 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick?
I doubt it, unless you enable the sticky keys feature in the accessibility
page, then carefully use that key sequence on Fn. However no guarantee that
sticky keys will work with Fn.
Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Lee" <kleeva5@gmail.com>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 14:23
Subject: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick?
is there a way to lock the FN key on the hp mini netbook like the caps
lock? its very ackward to press the fn key everytime I want to use the f
keys or the home, end, pg up, and dwn pg keys.
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This doesn't really have a whole lot to do with JAWS, really. Probably more
appropriate for the blindtech list. Just in case you weren't actually aiming
it at this list.
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-----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Hudson Sent: January-04-13 6:31 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick? Well you might be out of luck since it doesn't work Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2013, at 4:49 PM, "Kevin Lee" <kleeva5@gmail.com> wrote: sticky keys don't work on the fn key I've tried it countless of times.
-----Original Message----- From: Farfar Carlson
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 2:43 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick?
I doubt it, unless you enable the sticky keys feature in the
accessibility page, then carefully use that key sequence on Fn.
However no guarantee that sticky keys will work with Fn.
Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Lee" <kleeva5@gmail.com>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 14:23
Subject: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick?
is there a way to lock the FN key on the hp mini netbook like the
caps lock? its very ackward to press the fn key everytime I want to
use the f keys or the home, end, pg up, and dwn pg keys.
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Can you get to the windows Mobility Center and change settings for the function keys? Windows key x is supposed to do it, but it doesn't always.
The fn keys on standard lap tops are sometimes set for media and in the mobility center you can change them to another something instead. I would think that a netbook would be similar.
Maybe?
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James, yes it does, when using jaws in internet explorer you do the combo insert+f7 to get links, insert+f6 to get the headings. in order to get the insert key you must press the fn key because it is also the print screen key, also the f keys also have other functions and the fn key must be pressed in order to use the f keys.
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-----Original Message----- From: James Homuth Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 3:50 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick? This doesn't really have a whole lot to do with JAWS, really. Probably more appropriate for the blindtech list. Just in case you weren't actually aiming it at this list. James, List Admin -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Hudson Sent: January-04-13 6:31 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick? Well you might be out of luck since it doesn't work Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2013, at 4:49 PM, "Kevin Lee" <kleeva5@gmail.com> wrote: sticky keys don't work on the fn key I've tried it countless of times.
-----Original Message----- From: Farfar Carlson
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 2:43 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick?
I doubt it, unless you enable the sticky keys feature in the
accessibility page, then carefully use that key sequence on Fn.
However no guarantee that sticky keys will work with Fn.
Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Lee" <kleeva5@gmail.com>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 14:23
Subject: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick?
is there a way to lock the FN key on the hp mini netbook like the
caps lock? its very ackward to press the fn key everytime I want to
use the f keys or the home, end, pg up, and dwn pg keys.
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Are all HP laptops out there like this where the F keys are secondary to other functions, meaning you have to hit FN to use them? I'm looking into getting a new laptop because this mac book I've been running XP in boot camp on has the left and right arrow keys broken, so I've had to remap away the application key I was using to have right arrow. I'm looking to get something which doesn't have too odd of a keyboard layout though as I may need to bring this for temporary jobs, and trying to get a full size keyboard into a bag is difficult when the laptop will take up most of it.
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-----Original Message-----
From: James Homuth
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 3:50 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick?
This doesn't really have a whole lot to do with JAWS, really. Probably more
appropriate for the blindtech list. Just in case you weren't actually aiming
it at this list.
James,
List Admin
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Hudson
Sent: January-04-13 6:31 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick?
Well you might be out of luck since it doesn't work
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 4, 2013, at 4:49 PM, "Kevin Lee" <kleeva5@gmail.com> wrote:
sticky keys don't work on the fn key I've tried it countless of times.
-----Original Message----- From: Farfar Carlson
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 2:43 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick?
I doubt it, unless you enable the sticky keys feature in the
accessibility page, then carefully use that key sequence on Fn.
However no guarantee that sticky keys will work with Fn.
Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Lee" <kleeva5@gmail.com>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 14:23
Subject: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick?
is there a way to lock the FN key on the hp mini netbook like the
caps lock? its very ackward to press the fn key everytime I want to
use the f keys or the home, end, pg up, and dwn pg keys.
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Kevin,
That's incredible, and I'd toss out that HP Laptop if it's really true that
you have to use the Fn key for any Insert + key operation, Why not use the
JAWS Laptop layout so that the Caps Lock key is the JAWS key? Would make a
lot more sense than what you're going through.
Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Lee" <kleeva5@gmail.com> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 19:28 Subject: Re: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick? James, yes it does, when using jaws in internet explorer you do the combo insert+f7 to get links, insert+f6 to get the headings. in order to get the insert key you must press the fn key because it is also the print screen key, also the f keys also have other functions and the fn key must be pressed in order to use the f keys. -----Original Message----- From: James Homuth Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 3:50 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick? This doesn't really have a whole lot to do with JAWS, really. Probably more appropriate for the blindtech list. Just in case you weren't actually aiming it at this list. James, List Admin -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Hudson Sent: January-04-13 6:31 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick? Well you might be out of luck since it doesn't work Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2013, at 4:49 PM, "Kevin Lee" <kleeva5@gmail.com> wrote: sticky keys don't work on the fn key I've tried it countless of times.
-----Original Message----- From: Farfar Carlson
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 2:43 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick?
I doubt it, unless you enable the sticky keys feature in the
accessibility page, then carefully use that key sequence on Fn.
However no guarantee that sticky keys will work with Fn.
Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Lee" <kleeva5@gmail.com>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 14:23
Subject: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick?
is there a way to lock the FN key on the hp mini netbook like the
caps lock? its very ackward to press the fn key everytime I want to
use the f keys or the home, end, pg up, and dwn pg keys.
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I'm aware of what you need to do to make use of JAWS with IE. However, this
does not directly impact your use of JAWS with IE. Therefore, this is not
appropriate for this list.
James,
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-----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Lee Sent: January-04-13 10:29 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick? James, yes it does, when using jaws in internet explorer you do the combo insert+f7 to get links, insert+f6 to get the headings. in order to get insert+the insert key you must press the fn key because it is also the print screen key, also the f keys also have other functions and the fn key must be pressed in order to use the f keys. -----Original Message----- From: James Homuth Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 3:50 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick? This doesn't really have a whole lot to do with JAWS, really. Probably more appropriate for the blindtech list. Just in case you weren't actually aiming it at this list. James, List Admin -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Hudson Sent: January-04-13 6:31 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick? Well you might be out of luck since it doesn't work Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2013, at 4:49 PM, "Kevin Lee" <kleeva5@gmail.com> wrote: sticky keys don't work on the fn key I've tried it countless of times.
-----Original Message----- From: Farfar Carlson
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 2:43 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick?
I doubt it, unless you enable the sticky keys feature in the
accessibility page, then carefully use that key sequence on Fn.
However no guarantee that sticky keys will work with Fn.
Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Lee" <kleeva5@gmail.com>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 14:23
Subject: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick?
is there a way to lock the FN key on the hp mini netbook like the
caps lock? its very ackward to press the fn key everytime I want to
use the f keys or the home, end, pg up, and dwn pg keys.
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Dave:
I have an HP laptop which has a built-in number pad.
Regardless of that, I still use the JAWS laptop keyboard layout for all my screen-reading functions.
In fact, I use the JAWS laptop keyboard with my desktop as well. That way, I do not have to keep thinking which keystrokes I need to press when I use a laptop.
So, when I use a laptop without a built-in keyboard, the only key I really need to worry about, is where is the INSERT key located for that particular model laptop.
Sincerely:
Dave durber
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That's incredible, and I'd toss out that HP Laptop if it's really true that
you have to use the Fn key for any Insert + key operation, Why not use the
JAWS Laptop layout so that the Caps Lock key is the JAWS key? Would make a
lot more sense than what you're going through.
Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Lee" <kleeva5@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 19:28
Subject: Re: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick?
James, yes it does, when using jaws in internet explorer you do the combo
insert+f7 to get links, insert+f6 to get the headings. in order to get the
insert key you must press the fn key because it is also the print screen
key, also the f keys also have other functions and the fn key must be
pressed in order to use the f keys.
-----Original Message-----
From: James Homuth
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 3:50 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick?
This doesn't really have a whole lot to do with JAWS, really. Probably more
appropriate for the blindtech list. Just in case you weren't actually aiming
it at this list.
James,
List Admin
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Hudson
Sent: January-04-13 6:31 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick?
Well you might be out of luck since it doesn't work
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 4, 2013, at 4:49 PM, "Kevin Lee" <kleeva5@gmail.com> wrote:
sticky keys don't work on the fn key I've tried it countless of times.
-----Original Message----- From: Farfar Carlson
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 2:43 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick?
I doubt it, unless you enable the sticky keys feature in the
accessibility page, then carefully use that key sequence on Fn.
However no guarantee that sticky keys will work with Fn.
Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Lee" <kleeva5@gmail.com>
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Subject: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick?
is there a way to lock the FN key on the hp mini netbook like the
caps lock? its very ackward to press the fn key everytime I want to
use the f keys or the home, end, pg up, and dwn pg keys.
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Aidan Maher <aidan.smarttalk@...>
Its mostly netbooks that behave that way, but there should be a way to
remap the fn keys, I heard it must be done in the bios but I don't no.
Just wild guessing here.
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On 05/01/2013, Dave Durber <d.durber@gmail.com> wrote: Dave:
I have an HP laptop which has a built-in number pad.
Regardless of that, I still use the JAWS laptop keyboard layout for all my
screen-reading functions.
In fact, I use the JAWS laptop keyboard with my desktop as well. That way,
I do not have to keep thinking which keystrokes I need to press when I use a
laptop.
So, when I use a laptop without a built-in keyboard, the only key I really
need to worry about, is where is the INSERT key located for that particular
model laptop.
Sincerely:
Dave durber
----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar Carlson" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2013 12:01 AM
Subject: Re: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick?
Kevin,
That's incredible, and I'd toss out that HP Laptop if it's really true
that
you have to use the Fn key for any Insert + key operation, Why not use
the
JAWS Laptop layout so that the Caps Lock key is the JAWS key? Would make
a
lot more sense than what you're going through.
Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Lee" <kleeva5@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 19:28
Subject: Re: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick?
James, yes it does, when using jaws in internet explorer you do the combo
insert+f7 to get links, insert+f6 to get the headings. in order to get
the
insert key you must press the fn key because it is also the print screen
key, also the f keys also have other functions and the fn key must be
pressed in order to use the f keys.
-----Original Message-----
From: James Homuth
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 3:50 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick?
This doesn't really have a whole lot to do with JAWS, really. Probably
more
appropriate for the blindtech list. Just in case you weren't actually
aiming
it at this list.
James,
List Admin
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Joseph
Hudson
Sent: January-04-13 6:31 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick?
Well you might be out of luck since it doesn't work
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 4, 2013, at 4:49 PM, "Kevin Lee" <kleeva5@gmail.com> wrote:
sticky keys don't work on the fn key I've tried it countless of times.
-----Original Message----- From: Farfar Carlson
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 2:43 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick?
I doubt it, unless you enable the sticky keys feature in the
accessibility page, then carefully use that key sequence on Fn.
However no guarantee that sticky keys will work with Fn.
Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit
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Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 14:23
Subject: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick?
is there a way to lock the FN key on the hp mini netbook like the
caps lock? its very ackward to press the fn key everytime I want to
use the f keys or the home, end, pg up, and dwn pg keys.
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Kevin, try this. You may need some sighted help to do this, but you'll only have to do it once.
1.. Press the power button to turn on the computer.
2.. Press the f10 key to open the BIOS setup window.
3.. Use the right-arrow or left-arrow keys to navigate to the System Configuration option.
4.. Use the up-arrow or down-arrow keys to navigate to the Action Keys Mode option, and then press the enter key to display the Enable / Disable menu.
5.. Select the desired mode:
a.. Disabled : Requires pressing fn key + f1 through f12 to use the action as indicated on the action key.
For example, if Disabled , pressing fn + f11 will mute the sound as indicated on the key on this model PC. Alternatively, pressing f11 only will minimize and maximize a web browser if open.
The action keys may vary depending on the model of notebook.
b.. Enabled : Requires pressing only f1 through f12 to use the action as indicated on the action keys.
For example, if Enabled , pressing f11 only will mute the sound as indicated on the key on this model PC. Alternatively, pressing fn + f11 will minimize and maximize a web browser if open.
The action keys may vary depending on the model of notebook.
6.. Press f10 key to save the selection and restart the computer.
The function key (fn) option can be reset at any time.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar Carlson
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 2:43 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick?
I doubt it, unless you enable the sticky keys feature in the accessibility
page, then carefully use that key sequence on Fn. However no guarantee that
sticky keys will work with Fn.
Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 14:23
Subject: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick?
is there a way to lock the FN key on the hp mini netbook like the caps
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If I were you, I would steer clear of HP laptops. I use one at work, and my wife bought me one for my birthday. It's very fast, but it has its hang-ups. One particular issue that I hate, is when IE crashes, it locks up JAWS, and the only way I can get it to start talking again, is to either restart it, or have a sighted person help me figure out what the message is, and click on it. Then and only then, JAWS will start working again. This is not a JAWS issue because it doesn't happen on other computers that I use.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Brent Harding" <brent@hostany.net> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 9:57 PM Subject: Re: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick? Are all HP laptops out there like this where the F keys are secondary to other functions, meaning you have to hit FN to use them? I'm looking into getting a new laptop because this mac book I've been running XP in boot camp on has the left and right arrow keys broken, so I've had to remap away the application key I was using to have right arrow. I'm looking to get something which doesn't have too odd of a keyboard layout though as I may need to bring this for temporary jobs, and trying to get a full size keyboard into a bag is difficult when the laptop will take up most of it.
----- Original Message -----
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 9:28 PM
Subject: Re: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick?
James, yes it does, when using jaws in internet explorer you do the combo insert+f7 to get links, insert+f6 to get the headings. in order to get the insert key you must press the fn key because it is also the print screen key, also the f keys also have other functions and the fn key must be pressed in order to use the f keys.
-----Original Message-----
From: James Homuth
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 3:50 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick?
This doesn't really have a whole lot to do with JAWS, really. Probably more
appropriate for the blindtech list. Just in case you weren't actually aiming
it at this list.
James,
List Admin
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Hudson
Sent: January-04-13 6:31 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick?
Well you might be out of luck since it doesn't work
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 4, 2013, at 4:49 PM, "Kevin Lee" <kleeva5@gmail.com> wrote:
sticky keys don't work on the fn key I've tried it countless of times.
-----Original Message----- From: Farfar Carlson
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 2:43 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick?
I doubt it, unless you enable the sticky keys feature in the
accessibility page, then carefully use that key sequence on Fn.
However no guarantee that sticky keys will work with Fn.
Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Lee" <kleeva5@gmail.com>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 14:23
Subject: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick?
is there a way to lock the FN key on the hp mini netbook like the
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Aidan Maher <aidan.smarttalk@...>
My hp netbook is also setup that way, but jaws work wel there. What
problems do you have when the keys function as media keys wich is not
good for jaws?
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On 05/01/2013, Mike Mote <miketmote73@gmail.com> wrote: Dave, I had the same problem. HP sets up their computers so that the
function keys act as media controls, volume, fast forward, etc. You have to
disable it in the Bios. After that, JAWS functionality is much better.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar Carlson" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 11:01 PM
Subject: Re: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick?
Kevin,
That's incredible, and I'd toss out that HP Laptop if it's really true
that
you have to use the Fn key for any Insert + key operation, Why not use
the
JAWS Laptop layout so that the Caps Lock key is the JAWS key? Would make
a
lot more sense than what you're going through.
Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Lee" <kleeva5@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 19:28
Subject: Re: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick?
James, yes it does, when using jaws in internet explorer you do the combo
insert+f7 to get links, insert+f6 to get the headings. in order to get
the
insert key you must press the fn key because it is also the print screen
key, also the f keys also have other functions and the fn key must be
pressed in order to use the f keys.
-----Original Message-----
From: James Homuth
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 3:50 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick?
This doesn't really have a whole lot to do with JAWS, really. Probably
more
appropriate for the blindtech list. Just in case you weren't actually
aiming
it at this list.
James,
List Admin
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Joseph
Hudson
Sent: January-04-13 6:31 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick?
Well you might be out of luck since it doesn't work
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 4, 2013, at 4:49 PM, "Kevin Lee" <kleeva5@gmail.com> wrote:
sticky keys don't work on the fn key I've tried it countless of times.
-----Original Message----- From: Farfar Carlson
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 2:43 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick?
I doubt it, unless you enable the sticky keys feature in the
accessibility page, then carefully use that key sequence on Fn.
However no guarantee that sticky keys will work with Fn.
Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Lee" <kleeva5@gmail.com>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 14:23
Subject: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick?
is there a way to lock the FN key on the hp mini netbook like the
caps lock? its very ackward to press the fn key everytime I want to
use the f keys or the home, end, pg up, and dwn pg keys.
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Dave, I had the same problem. HP sets up their computers so that the function keys act as media controls, volume, fast forward, etc. You have to disable it in the Bios. After that, JAWS functionality is much better.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Farfar Carlson" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 11:01 PM Subject: Re: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick? Kevin,
That's incredible, and I'd toss out that HP Laptop if it's really true that
you have to use the Fn key for any Insert + key operation, Why not use the
JAWS Laptop layout so that the Caps Lock key is the JAWS key? Would make a
lot more sense than what you're going through.
Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Lee" <kleeva5@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 19:28
Subject: Re: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick?
James, yes it does, when using jaws in internet explorer you do the combo
insert+f7 to get links, insert+f6 to get the headings. in order to get the
insert key you must press the fn key because it is also the print screen
key, also the f keys also have other functions and the fn key must be
pressed in order to use the f keys.
-----Original Message-----
From: James Homuth
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 3:50 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick?
This doesn't really have a whole lot to do with JAWS, really. Probably more
appropriate for the blindtech list. Just in case you weren't actually aiming
it at this list.
James,
List Admin
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Hudson
Sent: January-04-13 6:31 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick?
Well you might be out of luck since it doesn't work
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 4, 2013, at 4:49 PM, "Kevin Lee" <kleeva5@gmail.com> wrote:
sticky keys don't work on the fn key I've tried it countless of times.
-----Original Message----- From: Farfar Carlson
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 2:43 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick?
I doubt it, unless you enable the sticky keys feature in the
accessibility page, then carefully use that key sequence on Fn.
However no guarantee that sticky keys will work with Fn.
Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Lee" <kleeva5@gmail.com>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 14:23
Subject: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick?
is there a way to lock the FN key on the hp mini netbook like the
caps lock? its very ackward to press the fn key everytime I want to
use the f keys or the home, end, pg up, and dwn pg keys.
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Mike,
Then I'm glad I've never had to deal with one.
Dave Carlson
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Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Mote" <miketmote73@gmail.com> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2013 05:44 Subject: Re: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick? Dave, I had the same problem. HP sets up their computers so that the function keys act as media controls, volume, fast forward, etc. You have to disable it in the Bios. After that, JAWS functionality is much better. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Farfar Carlson" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 11:01 PM Subject: Re: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick? Kevin,
That's incredible, and I'd toss out that HP Laptop if it's really true
that
you have to use the Fn key for any Insert + key operation, Why not use the
JAWS Laptop layout so that the Caps Lock key is the JAWS key? Would make a
lot more sense than what you're going through.
Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Lee" <kleeva5@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 19:28
Subject: Re: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick?
James, yes it does, when using jaws in internet explorer you do the combo
insert+f7 to get links, insert+f6 to get the headings. in order to get
the
insert key you must press the fn key because it is also the print screen
key, also the f keys also have other functions and the fn key must be
pressed in order to use the f keys.
-----Original Message-----
From: James Homuth
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 3:50 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick?
This doesn't really have a whole lot to do with JAWS, really. Probably
more
appropriate for the blindtech list. Just in case you weren't actually
aiming
it at this list.
James,
List Admin
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Joseph
Hudson
Sent: January-04-13 6:31 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick?
Well you might be out of luck since it doesn't work
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 4, 2013, at 4:49 PM, "Kevin Lee" <kleeva5@gmail.com> wrote:
sticky keys don't work on the fn key I've tried it countless of times.
-----Original Message----- From: Farfar Carlson
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 2:43 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick?
I doubt it, unless you enable the sticky keys feature in the
accessibility page, then carefully use that key sequence on Fn.
However no guarantee that sticky keys will work with Fn.
Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Lee" <kleeva5@gmail.com>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 14:23
Subject: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick?
is there a way to lock the FN key on the hp mini netbook like the
caps lock? its very ackward to press the fn key everytime I want to
use the f keys or the home, end, pg up, and dwn pg keys.
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This is interesting. My wife's HP Notebook came with the media setting on
those function keys.
If I need to use her computer I use an USB keyboaard and the function keys
on the USB keyboard work normally.
My HP does not have this problem, thankfully.
Cy
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-----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 10:01 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick? Kevin, That's incredible, and I'd toss out that HP Laptop if it's really true that you have to use the Fn key for any Insert + key operation, Why not use the JAWS Laptop layout so that the Caps Lock key is the JAWS key? Would make a lot more sense than what you're going through. Dave Carlson Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Lee" <kleeva5@gmail.com> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 19:28 Subject: Re: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick? James, yes it does, when using jaws in internet explorer you do the combo insert+f7 to get links, insert+f6 to get the headings. in order to get the insert key you must press the fn key because it is also the print screen key, also the f keys also have other functions and the fn key must be pressed in order to use the f keys. -----Original Message----- From: James Homuth Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 3:50 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick? This doesn't really have a whole lot to do with JAWS, really. Probably more appropriate for the blindtech list. Just in case you weren't actually aiming it at this list. James, List Admin -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Hudson Sent: January-04-13 6:31 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick? Well you might be out of luck since it doesn't work Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2013, at 4:49 PM, "Kevin Lee" <kleeva5@gmail.com> wrote: sticky keys don't work on the fn key I've tried it countless of times.
-----Original Message----- From: Farfar Carlson
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 2:43 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick?
I doubt it, unless you enable the sticky keys feature in the
accessibility page, then carefully use that key sequence on Fn.
However no guarantee that sticky keys will work with Fn.
Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Lee" <kleeva5@gmail.com>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 14:23
Subject: make the FN key on the hp mini netbook stick?
is there a way to lock the FN key on the hp mini netbook like the
caps lock? its very ackward to press the fn key everytime I want to
use the f keys or the home, end, pg up, and dwn pg keys.
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