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Karoline Bourdeau <karoline.bourdeau@...>
I am not sure how to fix this. When I am in a window say reading the web,
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Dave...
Yes, Happens to me a lot, even if the page is completely loaded. Alt+tab a
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couple times, and even sometimes need to minimize IE and maximize again to get it focused. And I always have to press Ctrl+F6 to get out of the upper address/favorites/search section. Very easy to get stuck in that tar-baby of IE. And yes, it's frustrating. In some particularly severe cases I even need to use my JAWS cursor to find some text on the web page and press left click to "wake up" the page into focus. JAWS 13 and 14 both do this. Using IE8. Windows 7. Dave Carlson Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit
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From: "Karoline Bourdeau" <karoline.bourdeau@gmail.com> To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 15:20 Subject: JAWS losing focus? I am not sure how to fix this. When I am in a window say reading the web, JAWS would lose focus. I have to shift tab twice to get back to where I was. Anyone else? Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20121129/8c014b41/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Abby Vincent <aevincent@...>
This happens to me often. I lose focus especially just after I've entered
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something, such as in an edit box. I haven't tried lately, but earlier this year, FS tech support said it's a windows problem. I did have a sighted person try the same action without using JAWS. No loss of focus. I hope someone on the list will have a fix, but I'm pretty sure it's an issue that JAWS needs to address. Abby
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 3:48 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS losing focus? Yes, Happens to me a lot, even if the page is completely loaded. Alt+tab a couple times, and even sometimes need to minimize IE and maximize again to get it focused. And I always have to press Ctrl+F6 to get out of the upper address/favorites/search section. Very easy to get stuck in that tar-baby of IE. And yes, it's frustrating. In some particularly severe cases I even need to use my JAWS cursor to find some text on the web page and press left click to "wake up" the page into focus. JAWS 13 and 14 both do this. Using IE8. Windows 7. Dave Carlson Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karoline Bourdeau" <karoline.bourdeau@gmail.com> To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 15:20 Subject: JAWS losing focus? I am not sure how to fix this. When I am in a window say reading the web, JAWS would lose focus. I have to shift tab twice to get back to where I was. Anyone else? Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201211 29/8c014b41/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Dave...
They said it was a Windows problem? I find that almost humorous. That's like
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blaming the ocean for getting you wet when you swim in it. JAWS is supposed to work with Windows, not in spite of it. I wonder which Tech had the audacity to suggest that? Dave Carlson Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit
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From: "Abby Vincent" <aevincent@ca.rr.com> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 15:59 Subject: RE: JAWS losing focus? This happens to me often. I lose focus especially just after I've entered something, such as in an edit box. I haven't tried lately, but earlier this year, FS tech support said it's a windows problem. I did have a sighted person try the same action without using JAWS. No loss of focus. I hope someone on the list will have a fix, but I'm pretty sure it's an issue that JAWS needs to address. Abby -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 3:48 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS losing focus? Yes, Happens to me a lot, even if the page is completely loaded. Alt+tab a couple times, and even sometimes need to minimize IE and maximize again to get it focused. And I always have to press Ctrl+F6 to get out of the upper address/favorites/search section. Very easy to get stuck in that tar-baby of IE. And yes, it's frustrating. In some particularly severe cases I even need to use my JAWS cursor to find some text on the web page and press left click to "wake up" the page into focus. JAWS 13 and 14 both do this. Using IE8. Windows 7. Dave Carlson Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karoline Bourdeau" <karoline.bourdeau@gmail.com> To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 15:20 Subject: JAWS losing focus? I am not sure how to fix this. When I am in a window say reading the web, JAWS would lose focus. I have to shift tab twice to get back to where I was. Anyone else? Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201211 29/8c014b41/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Dave...
And Abbie, I'm not saying you're wrong -- I actually believe that someone in
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Tech Support told you that. Dave Carlson Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit
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From: "Abby Vincent" <aevincent@ca.rr.com> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 15:59 Subject: RE: JAWS losing focus? This happens to me often. I lose focus especially just after I've entered something, such as in an edit box. I haven't tried lately, but earlier this year, FS tech support said it's a windows problem. I did have a sighted person try the same action without using JAWS. No loss of focus. I hope someone on the list will have a fix, but I'm pretty sure it's an issue that JAWS needs to address. Abby -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 3:48 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS losing focus? Yes, Happens to me a lot, even if the page is completely loaded. Alt+tab a couple times, and even sometimes need to minimize IE and maximize again to get it focused. And I always have to press Ctrl+F6 to get out of the upper address/favorites/search section. Very easy to get stuck in that tar-baby of IE. And yes, it's frustrating. In some particularly severe cases I even need to use my JAWS cursor to find some text on the web page and press left click to "wake up" the page into focus. JAWS 13 and 14 both do this. Using IE8. Windows 7. Dave Carlson Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karoline Bourdeau" <karoline.bourdeau@gmail.com> To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 15:20 Subject: JAWS losing focus? I am not sure how to fix this. When I am in a window say reading the web, JAWS would lose focus. I have to shift tab twice to get back to where I was. Anyone else? Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201211 29/8c014b41/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Lisa Larges
I've experienced this as well -- some with Internet Explorer, but especially
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with FireFox. In fact, I just opened FireFox to check which version I had, and there it was again. This seems to happen more with JAWS14. In general I've found that JAWS14 and FireFox don't play as well together as JAWS13 did. Along with JAWS14 I'm running FireFox 16.02 and IE 8. I downgraded from IE9 to IE8 and found that it's a bit more stable.
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 5:48 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. ubject: Re: JAWS losing focus? Yes, Happens to me a lot, even if the page is completely loaded. Alt+tab a couple times, and even sometimes need to minimize IE and maximize again to get it focused. And I always have to press Ctrl+F6 to get out of the upper address/favorites/search section. Very easy to get stuck in that tar-baby of IE. And yes, it's frustrating. In some particularly severe cases I even need to use my JAWS cursor to find some text on the web page and press left click to "wake up" the page into focus. JAWS 13 and 14 both do this. Using IE8. Windows 7. Dave Carlson Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karoline Bourdeau" <karoline.bourdeau@gmail.com> To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 15:20 Subject: JAWS losing focus? I am not sure how to fix this. When I am in a window say reading the web, JAWS would lose focus. I have to shift tab twice to get back to where I was. Anyone else? Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201211 29/8c014b41/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Abby Vincent <aevincent@...>
Is the address/search tar baby part of IE or Google? I have the same
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problem of getting stuck. I did manage to remove it, but when I went to the IE page again, it came back up. The JAWS cursor and ctrl-f6 methods do work, but I'd really like to get rid of it completely. As far as I know, it does nothing that can't be done in a less annoying way. Abby
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 3:48 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS losing focus? Yes, Happens to me a lot, even if the page is completely loaded. Alt+tab a couple times, and even sometimes need to minimize IE and maximize again to get it focused. And I always have to press Ctrl+F6 to get out of the upper address/favorites/search section. Very easy to get stuck in that tar-baby of IE. And yes, it's frustrating. In some particularly severe cases I even need to use my JAWS cursor to find some text on the web page and press left click to "wake up" the page into focus. JAWS 13 and 14 both do this. Using IE8. Windows 7. Dave Carlson Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karoline Bourdeau" <karoline.bourdeau@gmail.com> To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 15:20 Subject: JAWS losing focus? I am not sure how to fix this. When I am in a window say reading the web, JAWS would lose focus. I have to shift tab twice to get back to where I was. Anyone else? Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201211 29/8c014b41/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Dave...
Abby,
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I know of no way to remove that stuff. Agree that it's superfluous, and just a tool for folks with vision. But no joy, I think we're never going to find a way to remove it, unless someone clever can find a way to exorcised it from the registry or create an add-on that squelches it. Dave Carlson Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit
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From: "Abby Vincent" <aevincent@ca.rr.com> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 16:24 Subject: RE: JAWS losing focus? Is the address/search tar baby part of IE or Google? I have the same problem of getting stuck. I did manage to remove it, but when I went to the IE page again, it came back up. The JAWS cursor and ctrl-f6 methods do work, but I'd really like to get rid of it completely. As far as I know, it does nothing that can't be done in a less annoying way. Abby -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 3:48 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS losing focus? Yes, Happens to me a lot, even if the page is completely loaded. Alt+tab a couple times, and even sometimes need to minimize IE and maximize again to get it focused. And I always have to press Ctrl+F6 to get out of the upper address/favorites/search section. Very easy to get stuck in that tar-baby of IE. And yes, it's frustrating. In some particularly severe cases I even need to use my JAWS cursor to find some text on the web page and press left click to "wake up" the page into focus. JAWS 13 and 14 both do this. Using IE8. Windows 7. Dave Carlson Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karoline Bourdeau" <karoline.bourdeau@gmail.com> To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 15:20 Subject: JAWS losing focus? I am not sure how to fix this. When I am in a window say reading the web, JAWS would lose focus. I have to shift tab twice to get back to where I was. Anyone else? Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201211 29/8c014b41/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Try one of the after-market uninstall programs like Revo Uninstall, an app mentioned by several of us on this list. I somehow picked up a Google bar (sounds like something with chocolate and nuts, doesn't it?), and that program nixed it.
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Abby Vincent Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 7:25 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: JAWS losing focus? Is the address/search tar baby part of IE or Google? I have the same problem of getting stuck. I did manage to remove it, but when I went to the IE page again, it came back up. The JAWS cursor and ctrl-f6 methods do work, but I'd really like to get rid of it completely. As far as I know, it does nothing that can't be done in a less annoying way. Abby -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 3:48 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS losing focus? Yes, Happens to me a lot, even if the page is completely loaded. Alt+tab a couple times, and even sometimes need to minimize IE and maximize again to get it focused. And I always have to press Ctrl+F6 to get out of the upper address/favorites/search section. Very easy to get stuck in that tar-baby of IE. And yes, it's frustrating. In some particularly severe cases I even need to use my JAWS cursor to find some text on the web page and press left click to "wake up" the page into focus. JAWS 13 and 14 both do this. Using IE8. Windows 7. Dave Carlson Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karoline Bourdeau" <karoline.bourdeau@gmail.com> To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 15:20 Subject: JAWS losing focus? I am not sure how to fix this. When I am in a window say reading the web, JAWS would lose focus. I have to shift tab twice to get back to where I was. Anyone else? Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201211 29/8c014b41/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Dave...
Ted,
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Worth a try, but I suspect that revo uninstall just removes tool bars, and not the entire address bar - favorites bar - search bar area. Dave Carlson Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit
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From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 05:13 Subject: RE: JAWS losing focus? Try one of the after-market uninstall programs like Revo Uninstall, an app mentioned by several of us on this list. I somehow picked up a Google bar (sounds like something with chocolate and nuts, doesn't it?), and that program nixed it. Ted -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Abby Vincent Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 7:25 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: JAWS losing focus? Is the address/search tar baby part of IE or Google? I have the same problem of getting stuck. I did manage to remove it, but when I went to the IE page again, it came back up. The JAWS cursor and ctrl-f6 methods do work, but I'd really like to get rid of it completely. As far as I know, it does nothing that can't be done in a less annoying way. Abby -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 3:48 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS losing focus? Yes, Happens to me a lot, even if the page is completely loaded. Alt+tab a couple times, and even sometimes need to minimize IE and maximize again to get it focused. And I always have to press Ctrl+F6 to get out of the upper address/favorites/search section. Very easy to get stuck in that tar-baby of IE. And yes, it's frustrating. In some particularly severe cases I even need to use my JAWS cursor to find some text on the web page and press left click to "wake up" the page into focus. JAWS 13 and 14 both do this. Using IE8. Windows 7. Dave Carlson Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karoline Bourdeau" <karoline.bourdeau@gmail.com> To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 15:20 Subject: JAWS losing focus? I am not sure how to fix this. When I am in a window say reading the web, JAWS would lose focus. I have to shift tab twice to get back to where I was. Anyone else? Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201211 29/8c014b41/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
You never can tell. I don't use them for anything save the occasional query, and didn't even know the fool thing was there, until I check the list of potential programs.
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 8:19 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS losing focus? Ted, Worth a try, but I suspect that revo uninstall just removes tool bars, and not the entire address bar - favorites bar - search bar area. Dave Carlson Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 05:13 Subject: RE: JAWS losing focus? Try one of the after-market uninstall programs like Revo Uninstall, an app mentioned by several of us on this list. I somehow picked up a Google bar (sounds like something with chocolate and nuts, doesn't it?), and that program nixed it. Ted -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Abby Vincent Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 7:25 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: JAWS losing focus? Is the address/search tar baby part of IE or Google? I have the same problem of getting stuck. I did manage to remove it, but when I went to the IE page again, it came back up. The JAWS cursor and ctrl-f6 methods do work, but I'd really like to get rid of it completely. As far as I know, it does nothing that can't be done in a less annoying way. Abby -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 3:48 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS losing focus? Yes, Happens to me a lot, even if the page is completely loaded. Alt+tab a couple times, and even sometimes need to minimize IE and maximize again to get it focused. And I always have to press Ctrl+F6 to get out of the upper address/favorites/search section. Very easy to get stuck in that tar-baby of IE. And yes, it's frustrating. In some particularly severe cases I even need to use my JAWS cursor to find some text on the web page and press left click to "wake up" the page into focus. JAWS 13 and 14 both do this. Using IE8. Windows 7. Dave Carlson Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karoline Bourdeau" <karoline.bourdeau@gmail.com> To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 15:20 Subject: JAWS losing focus? I am not sure how to fix this. When I am in a window say reading the web, JAWS would lose focus. I have to shift tab twice to get back to where I was. Anyone else? Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201211 29/8c014b41/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
Hi Ted & Dave,
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The Google toolbar can be removed through the control panel. Also, the revo uninstaller will remove any leftover remnants of a program / toolbar, such as crap that a program will leave in the registry or in folders like the application folder in your name or owner folder on the root of the C drive. Take care. Mike This email was sent from my, iBarstool.
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From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 5:35 AM Subject: RE: JAWS losing focus? You never can tell. I don't use them for anything save the occasional query, and didn't even know the fool thing was there, until I check the list of potential programs. Ted -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 8:19 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS losing focus? Ted, Worth a try, but I suspect that revo uninstall just removes tool bars, and not the entire address bar - favorites bar - search bar area. Dave Carlson Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 05:13 Subject: RE: JAWS losing focus? Try one of the after-market uninstall programs like Revo Uninstall, an app mentioned by several of us on this list. I somehow picked up a Google bar (sounds like something with chocolate and nuts, doesn't it?), and that program nixed it. Ted -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Abby Vincent Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 7:25 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: JAWS losing focus? Is the address/search tar baby part of IE or Google? I have the same problem of getting stuck. I did manage to remove it, but when I went to the IE page again, it came back up. The JAWS cursor and ctrl-f6 methods do work, but I'd really like to get rid of it completely. As far as I know, it does nothing that can't be done in a less annoying way. Abby -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 3:48 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS losing focus? Yes, Happens to me a lot, even if the page is completely loaded. Alt+tab a couple times, and even sometimes need to minimize IE and maximize again to get it focused. And I always have to press Ctrl+F6 to get out of the upper address/favorites/search section. Very easy to get stuck in that tar-baby of IE. And yes, it's frustrating. In some particularly severe cases I even need to use my JAWS cursor to find some text on the web page and press left click to "wake up" the page into focus. JAWS 13 and 14 both do this. Using IE8. Windows 7. Dave Carlson Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karoline Bourdeau" <karoline.bourdeau@gmail.com> To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 15:20 Subject: JAWS losing focus? I am not sure how to fix this. When I am in a window say reading the web, JAWS would lose focus. I have to shift tab twice to get back to where I was. Anyone else? Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201211 29/8c014b41/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20121130/cebce61f/attachment.html>
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dave grossoehme
Good Morning: I'm not surprised about Freedom Scientific's response on this
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problem. Loosing focus goes back several versions in different applications. The earliest version of Jaws was back in version 6 that this problem started showing up for me. Sometimes you can alt+tab a time or more to get rid of the problem. At times you are forced to shut Jaws down and restart it. In version 13/14 I'm noticed it the worst, where you are forced to shutdown and restart the computer to regain sound when reading messages in Outlook 10 with Windows 7 on an Hp computer. Considering I have had this problem on many different applications on my work computer I didn't even think about reporting the problem. Your Friend Dave
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Abby Vincent Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 6:00 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: JAWS losing focus? This happens to me often. I lose focus especially just after I've entered something, such as in an edit box. I haven't tried lately, but earlier this year, FS tech support said it's a windows problem. I did have a sighted person try the same action without using JAWS. No loss of focus. I hope someone on the list will have a fix, but I'm pretty sure it's an issue that JAWS needs to address. Abby -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 3:48 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS losing focus? Yes, Happens to me a lot, even if the page is completely loaded. Alt+tab a couple times, and even sometimes need to minimize IE and maximize again to get it focused. And I always have to press Ctrl+F6 to get out of the upper address/favorites/search section. Very easy to get stuck in that tar-baby of IE. And yes, it's frustrating. In some particularly severe cases I even need to use my JAWS cursor to find some text on the web page and press left click to "wake up" the page into focus. JAWS 13 and 14 both do this. Using IE8. Windows 7. Dave Carlson Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karoline Bourdeau" <karoline.bourdeau@gmail.com> To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 15:20 Subject: JAWS losing focus? I am not sure how to fix this. When I am in a window say reading the web, JAWS would lose focus. I have to shift tab twice to get back to where I was. Anyone else? Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201211 29/8c014b41/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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George Marshall
I have this los of focus each time I enter Outlook 2003.
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George R. Marshall marshall.geoma4@gmail.com
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Karoline Bourdeau Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 6:20 PM To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Subject: JAWS losing focus? I am not sure how to fix this. When I am in a window say reading the web, JAWS would lose focus. I have to shift tab twice to get back to where I was. Anyone else? Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201211 29/8c014b41/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Aidan Maher <aidan.smarttalk@...>
Is this focus thing jaws fault, or the actual programs you are using
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fault? Just wunder about that? How do we make sure of that? Quite tricky.
On 30/11/2012, George Marshall <marshall.geoma4@gmail.com> wrote:
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Adrian Spratt
Not tricky at all. If such a problem occurs with JAWS and not otherwise,
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probabilities are high that it's JAWS. A more difficult question is why JAWS acts this way on some systems but not on others. I do not experience JAWS losing focus as I switch in and out of Outlook 2003, but many people do. The answers must lie with the video drivers or other computer-specific hardware or programming. I wish FS were willing to publish a list of computer parts that work or don't work with JAWS based on in-house tests and user reports.
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Aidan Maher Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 1:45 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS losing focus? Is this focus thing jaws fault, or the actual programs you are using fault? Just wunder about that? How do we make sure of that? Quite tricky. On 30/11/2012, George Marshall <marshall.geoma4@gmail.com> wrote: I have this los of focus each time I enter Outlook 2003._______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Dave...
Aidan,
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Since the whole concept of "focus" is related to JAWS being focused in a particular application, I think it's safe to say that it's related to JAWS and not the application. After all, a person with sight can see the application, unless they are not wearing their glasses. Dave Carlson Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit
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From: "Aidan Maher" <aidan.smarttalk@gmail.com> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 10:45 Subject: Re: JAWS losing focus? Is this focus thing jaws fault, or the actual programs you are using fault? Just wunder about that? How do we make sure of that? Quite tricky. On 30/11/2012, George Marshall <marshall.geoma4@gmail.com> wrote: I have this los of focus each time I enter Outlook 2003._______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Dave...
Mike,
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Yes, and I can remove the Google Toolbar and other toolbars very easily using Add/Remove programs in the control panel or in the Programs and Features dialog. What I'm referring to is the area in IE where you find the address, favorites bar, the search field and search preference, and the tab for the current page. How do I get rid of all that cr**p so I don't get stuck in there? Dave Carlson Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit
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From: "Mike B." <mb69mach1@charter.net> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 06:51 Subject: Re: JAWS losing focus? Hi Ted & Dave, The Google toolbar can be removed through the control panel. Also, the revo uninstaller will remove any leftover remnants of a program / toolbar, such as crap that a program will leave in the registry or in folders like the application folder in your name or owner folder on the root of the C drive. Take care. Mike This email was sent from my, iBarstool. ----- Original Message ----- From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 5:35 AM Subject: RE: JAWS losing focus? You never can tell. I don't use them for anything save the occasional query, and didn't even know the fool thing was there, until I check the list of potential programs. Ted -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 8:19 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS losing focus? Ted, Worth a try, but I suspect that revo uninstall just removes tool bars, and not the entire address bar - favorites bar - search bar area. Dave Carlson Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 05:13 Subject: RE: JAWS losing focus? Try one of the after-market uninstall programs like Revo Uninstall, an app mentioned by several of us on this list. I somehow picked up a Google bar (sounds like something with chocolate and nuts, doesn't it?), and that program nixed it. Ted -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Abby Vincent Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 7:25 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: JAWS losing focus? Is the address/search tar baby part of IE or Google? I have the same problem of getting stuck. I did manage to remove it, but when I went to the IE page again, it came back up. The JAWS cursor and ctrl-f6 methods do work, but I'd really like to get rid of it completely. As far as I know, it does nothing that can't be done in a less annoying way. Abby -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 3:48 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS losing focus? Yes, Happens to me a lot, even if the page is completely loaded. Alt+tab a couple times, and even sometimes need to minimize IE and maximize again to get it focused. And I always have to press Ctrl+F6 to get out of the upper address/favorites/search section. Very easy to get stuck in that tar-baby of IE. And yes, it's frustrating. In some particularly severe cases I even need to use my JAWS cursor to find some text on the web page and press left click to "wake up" the page into focus. JAWS 13 and 14 both do this. Using IE8. Windows 7. Dave Carlson Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karoline Bourdeau" <karoline.bourdeau@gmail.com> To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 15:20 Subject: JAWS losing focus? I am not sure how to fix this. When I am in a window say reading the web, JAWS would lose focus. I have to shift tab twice to get back to where I was. Anyone else? Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Aidan Maher <aidan.smarttalk@...>
Maybe try to disable them from the tools menu. I agree that freedom
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should actually provide more info about components to avoid and wich works best. I've learned that any gigabite component could cause problems so I rather stay away from it.
On 01/12/2012, Farfar Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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dave grossoehme
Good Day George: If you have the option for Jaws turned on you can hear
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Jaws say no focus. After you hear that spoken Jaws goes quiet. I've had many different sighted people standing at my side when this happens and they see no difference in the screen. We even have a scripter that works with Jaws on a daily basis of which his name is Larry Gasmann. I've work with this problem in different ways in order to get rid of it. Sometimes the refresh keys ofJaws will work, or using the esc key sometimes, but neither of these options work with Jaws 14 in Windows7 and Outlook 10. Your Friend Dave
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Aidan Maher Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 12:45 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS losing focus? Is this focus thing jaws fault, or the actual programs you are using fault? Just wunder about that? How do we make sure of that? Quite tricky. On 30/11/2012, George Marshall <marshall.geoma4@gmail.com> wrote: I have this los of focus each time I enter Outlook 2003._______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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