Learning Jaws and the Keyboard


lauren
 

I was taught to type like a sighted person would learn. i never used any special keyboards or anything like that.


Dave...
 

Agree wholeheartedly.

What's the point in labeling the keys? If you should sit down at another
computer, you'd be complete lost without your crutch. Learn the home keys
(A S D F and J k L ;) and the proper fingers to use for moving above and
below.

Practice, practice, practice. Touch typing is easy once you force yourself
to follow the patterns.

Then the spell-checker is your next best friend.


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit

----- Original Message -----
From: "lauren" <childress54@...>
To: <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 21:41
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard


I was taught to type like a sighted person would learn. i never used
any special keyboards or anything like that.

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Cy Selfridge
 

Dave,
Excellent advice.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar Going 60
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 11:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard

Agree wholeheartedly.

What's the point in labeling the keys? If you should sit down at another
computer, you'd be complete lost without your crutch. Learn the home keys (A
S D F and J k L ;) and the proper fingers to use for moving above and below.

Practice, practice, practice. Touch typing is easy once you force yourself
to follow the patterns.

Then the spell-checker is your next best friend.


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "lauren" <childress54@...>
To: <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 21:41
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard


I was taught to type like a sighted person would learn. i never used
any special keyboards or anything like that.

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Dave...
 

Cy,

Thanks! And did you notice that even the spell-checker foiled me in my use
of the word "complete" where it should have been "completely"? Ah, well,
even if tastefully composed, not carefully composed enough, I guess.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit

----- Original Message -----
From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:11
Subject: RE: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard


Dave,
Excellent advice.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar Going 60
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 11:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard

Agree wholeheartedly.

What's the point in labeling the keys? If you should sit down at another
computer, you'd be complete lost without your crutch. Learn the home keys (A
S D F and J k L ;) and the proper fingers to use for moving above and below.

Practice, practice, practice. Touch typing is easy once you force yourself
to follow the patterns.

Then the spell-checker is your next best friend.


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "lauren" <childress54@...>
To: <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 21:41
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard


I was taught to type like a sighted person would learn. i never used
any special keyboards or anything like that.

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Marquette, Ed <Ed.Marquette@...>
 

I've stayed out of this, but couldn't resist any longer.
Blind people have some very distinct advantages. Among many, two are:
1. No temptation to look at your feet when ballroom dancing; and
2. No temptation to look at the keyboard while typing.
I actually became a much faster typist after I lost my sight. I learned (sort of) in high school. The course was offered in the "business" class, which was a euphemism for teaching secretaries. It was a great excuse to meet girls. I didn't learn much beyond the home row.
In those days, the challenge was to remember to change the ribbon promptly. I still remember, in horror, the couple of times that I typed a college essay only to be told by my reader that the ribbon had run out and that all I had were white pages with indentations. OUCH!
I cannot imagine how easy it would be to learn typing with JAWS running, or even with a Braille display. Just memorize the layout and, as Dave said, practice, practice, practice.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:19 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard

Cy,

Thanks! And did you notice that even the spell-checker foiled me in my use
of the word "complete" where it should have been "completely"? Ah, well,
even if tastefully composed, not carefully composed enough, I guess.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:11
Subject: RE: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard


Dave,
Excellent advice.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar Going 60
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 11:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard

Agree wholeheartedly.

What's the point in labeling the keys? If you should sit down at another
computer, you'd be complete lost without your crutch. Learn the home keys (A
S D F and J k L ;) and the proper fingers to use for moving above and below.

Practice, practice, practice. Touch typing is easy once you force yourself
to follow the patterns.

Then the spell-checker is your next best friend.


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "lauren" <childress54@...>
To: <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 21:41
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard


I was taught to type like a sighted person would learn. i never used
any special keyboards or anything like that.

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Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

We had a teacher who wrapped the knuckles of the sight savers (lovingly,
of course--she was gentle but firm), and enjoined them not to peak.
I've heard of student machines with blank caps.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Marquette, Ed
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 3:36 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard

I've stayed out of this, but couldn't resist any longer.
Blind people have some very distinct advantages. Among many, two are:
1. No temptation to look at your feet when ballroom dancing; and 2. No
temptation to look at the keyboard while typing.
I actually became a much faster typist after I lost my sight. I learned
(sort of) in high school. The course was offered in the "business"
class, which was a euphemism for teaching secretaries. It was a great
excuse to meet girls. I didn't learn much beyond the home row.
In those days, the challenge was to remember to change the ribbon
promptly. I still remember, in horror, the couple of times that I typed
a college essay only to be told by my reader that the ribbon had run out
and that all I had were white pages with indentations. OUCH!
I cannot imagine how easy it would be to learn typing with JAWS running,
or even with a Braille display. Just memorize the layout and, as Dave
said, practice, practice, practice.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:19 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard

Cy,

Thanks! And did you notice that even the spell-checker foiled me in my
use of the word "complete" where it should have been "completely"? Ah,
well, even if tastefully composed, not carefully composed enough, I
guess.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:11
Subject: RE: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard


Dave,
Excellent advice.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar Going 60
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 11:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard

Agree wholeheartedly.

What's the point in labeling the keys? If you should sit down at another
computer, you'd be complete lost without your crutch. Learn the home
keys (A
S D F and J k L ;) and the proper fingers to use for moving above and
below.

Practice, practice, practice. Touch typing is easy once you force
yourself
to follow the patterns.

Then the spell-checker is your next best friend.


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "lauren" <childress54@...>
To: <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 21:41
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard


I was taught to type like a sighted person would learn. i never used
any special keyboards or anything like that.

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Cy Selfridge
 

You can purchase those blank caps and that, for sure, eliminates any
possibility of peeking.
I admit that I had a whale of a time touch typing until I lost all of my
vision.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:04 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard

We had a teacher who wrapped the knuckles of the sight savers (lovingly, of
course--she was gentle but firm), and enjoined them not to peak.
I've heard of student machines with blank caps.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Marquette, Ed
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 3:36 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard

I've stayed out of this, but couldn't resist any longer.
Blind people have some very distinct advantages. Among many, two are:
1. No temptation to look at your feet when ballroom dancing; and 2. No
temptation to look at the keyboard while typing.
I actually became a much faster typist after I lost my sight. I learned
(sort of) in high school. The course was offered in the "business"
class, which was a euphemism for teaching secretaries. It was a great
excuse to meet girls. I didn't learn much beyond the home row.
In those days, the challenge was to remember to change the ribbon promptly.
I still remember, in horror, the couple of times that I typed a college
essay only to be told by my reader that the ribbon had run out and that all
I had were white pages with indentations. OUCH!
I cannot imagine how easy it would be to learn typing with JAWS running, or
even with a Braille display. Just memorize the layout and, as Dave said,
practice, practice, practice.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:19 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard

Cy,

Thanks! And did you notice that even the spell-checker foiled me in my use
of the word "complete" where it should have been "completely"? Ah, well,
even if tastefully composed, not carefully composed enough, I guess.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:11
Subject: RE: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard


Dave,
Excellent advice.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar Going 60
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 11:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard

Agree wholeheartedly.

What's the point in labeling the keys? If you should sit down at another
computer, you'd be complete lost without your crutch. Learn the home
keys (A
S D F and J k L ;) and the proper fingers to use for moving above and
below.

Practice, practice, practice. Touch typing is easy once you force
yourself
to follow the patterns.

Then the spell-checker is your next best friend.


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "lauren" <childress54@...>
To: <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 21:41
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard


I was taught to type like a sighted person would learn. i never used
any special keyboards or anything like that.

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Dave...
 

Ted,

Yes, I also recall typing class in middle school, and there was music played
so that we were forced to type the exercises to the beat, just to force
faster and faster reactions. Yes, and there were some social interaction
opportunities, but no dancing was allowed.

My problem with having had sight earlier is that I still crane my neck to
look at the display, when there is absolutely no reason any more to do so,
since my sight is totally gone. Old habits die hard. But the social
interaction skills remain.
some of the girls

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:35
Subject: RE: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard


I've stayed out of this, but couldn't resist any longer.
Blind people have some very distinct advantages. Among many, two are:
1. No temptation to look at your feet when ballroom dancing; and
2. No temptation to look at the keyboard while typing.
I actually became a much faster typist after I lost my sight. I learned
(sort of) in high school. The course was offered in the "business" class,
which was a euphemism for teaching secretaries. It was a great excuse to
meet girls. I didn't learn much beyond the home row.
In those days, the challenge was to remember to change the ribbon promptly.
I still remember, in horror, the couple of times that I typed a college
essay only to be told by my reader that the ribbon had run out and that all
I had were white pages with indentations. OUCH!
I cannot imagine how easy it would be to learn typing with JAWS running, or
even with a Braille display. Just memorize the layout and, as Dave said,
practice, practice, practice.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:19 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard

Cy,

Thanks! And did you notice that even the spell-checker foiled me in my use
of the word "complete" where it should have been "completely"? Ah, well,
even if tastefully composed, not carefully composed enough, I guess.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:11
Subject: RE: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard


Dave,
Excellent advice.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar Going 60
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 11:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard

Agree wholeheartedly.

What's the point in labeling the keys? If you should sit down at another
computer, you'd be complete lost without your crutch. Learn the home keys (A
S D F and J k L ;) and the proper fingers to use for moving above and below.

Practice, practice, practice. Touch typing is easy once you force yourself
to follow the patterns.

Then the spell-checker is your next best friend.


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "lauren" <childress54@...>
To: <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 21:41
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard


I was taught to type like a sighted person would learn. i never used
any special keyboards or anything like that.

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Cy Selfridge
 

On those old Underwood typewriters if you slightly pressed the backspace key
while doing the carriage return the thing would make a horrid noise.
(LOLLOLLOL
Also, on those old typewriters one could disable the carriage return stops
and when you slammed the carriage back it would just continue off the
typewriter and onto the floor. (sad face)
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:22 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard

Ted,

Yes, I also recall typing class in middle school, and there was music played
so that we were forced to type the exercises to the beat, just to force
faster and faster reactions. Yes, and there were some social interaction
opportunities, but no dancing was allowed.

My problem with having had sight earlier is that I still crane my neck to
look at the display, when there is absolutely no reason any more to do so,
since my sight is totally gone. Old habits die hard. But the social
interaction skills remain.
some of the girls

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:35
Subject: RE: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard


I've stayed out of this, but couldn't resist any longer.
Blind people have some very distinct advantages. Among many, two are:
1. No temptation to look at your feet when ballroom dancing; and
2. No temptation to look at the keyboard while typing.
I actually became a much faster typist after I lost my sight. I learned
(sort of) in high school. The course was offered in the "business" class,
which was a euphemism for teaching secretaries. It was a great excuse to
meet girls. I didn't learn much beyond the home row.
In those days, the challenge was to remember to change the ribbon promptly.
I still remember, in horror, the couple of times that I typed a college
essay only to be told by my reader that the ribbon had run out and that all
I had were white pages with indentations. OUCH!
I cannot imagine how easy it would be to learn typing with JAWS running, or
even with a Braille display. Just memorize the layout and, as Dave said,
practice, practice, practice.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:19 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard

Cy,

Thanks! And did you notice that even the spell-checker foiled me in my use
of the word "complete" where it should have been "completely"? Ah, well,
even if tastefully composed, not carefully composed enough, I guess.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:11
Subject: RE: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard


Dave,
Excellent advice.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar Going 60
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 11:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard

Agree wholeheartedly.

What's the point in labeling the keys? If you should sit down at another
computer, you'd be complete lost without your crutch. Learn the home keys (A
S D F and J k L ;) and the proper fingers to use for moving above and below.

Practice, practice, practice. Touch typing is easy once you force yourself
to follow the patterns.

Then the spell-checker is your next best friend.


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 21:41
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard


I was taught to type like a sighted person would learn. i never used
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Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Ah yes, rhythm work. One of our favorites was a big band remake of "In
the Mood." I remember a good country 78 by Bryant and West as well--two
of the hottest cats on the West Coast, for those who don't remember. I
guess I've disturbed enough dust for now.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 4:22 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard

Ted,

Yes, I also recall typing class in middle school, and there was music
played so that we were forced to type the exercises to the beat, just to
force faster and faster reactions. Yes, and there were some social
interaction opportunities, but no dancing was allowed.

My problem with having had sight earlier is that I still crane my neck
to look at the display, when there is absolutely no reason any more to
do so, since my sight is totally gone. Old habits die hard. But the
social interaction skills remain.
some of the girls

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:35
Subject: RE: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard


I've stayed out of this, but couldn't resist any longer.
Blind people have some very distinct advantages. Among many, two are:
1. No temptation to look at your feet when ballroom dancing; and
2. No temptation to look at the keyboard while typing.
I actually became a much faster typist after I lost my sight. I learned

(sort of) in high school. The course was offered in the "business"
class,
which was a euphemism for teaching secretaries. It was a great excuse
to
meet girls. I didn't learn much beyond the home row.
In those days, the challenge was to remember to change the ribbon
promptly.
I still remember, in horror, the couple of times that I typed a college
essay only to be told by my reader that the ribbon had run out and that
all
I had were white pages with indentations. OUCH!
I cannot imagine how easy it would be to learn typing with JAWS running,
or
even with a Braille display. Just memorize the layout and, as Dave
said,
practice, practice, practice.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:19 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard

Cy,

Thanks! And did you notice that even the spell-checker foiled me in my
use
of the word "complete" where it should have been "completely"? Ah, well,
even if tastefully composed, not carefully composed enough, I guess.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:11
Subject: RE: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard


Dave,
Excellent advice.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar Going 60
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 11:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard

Agree wholeheartedly.

What's the point in labeling the keys? If you should sit down at another
computer, you'd be complete lost without your crutch. Learn the home
keys (A
S D F and J k L ;) and the proper fingers to use for moving above and
below.

Practice, practice, practice. Touch typing is easy once you force
yourself
to follow the patterns.

Then the spell-checker is your next best friend.


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "lauren" <childress54@...>
To: <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 21:41
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard


I was taught to type like a sighted person would learn. i never used
any special keyboards or anything like that.

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Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Lord, it sounds like a Hall throwing its band. As you didn't grow up
blind, I may have to explain that one off list. A Hall brailler was one
of the ugliest pieces of equipment you'll ever see, but fairly
functional.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Cy Selfridge
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 4:26 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard

On those old Underwood typewriters if you slightly pressed the backspace
key while doing the carriage return the thing would make a horrid noise.
(LOLLOLLOL
Also, on those old typewriters one could disable the carriage return
stops and when you slammed the carriage back it would just continue off
the typewriter and onto the floor. (sad face) Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:22 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard

Ted,

Yes, I also recall typing class in middle school, and there was music
played so that we were forced to type the exercises to the beat, just to
force faster and faster reactions. Yes, and there were some social
interaction opportunities, but no dancing was allowed.

My problem with having had sight earlier is that I still crane my neck
to look at the display, when there is absolutely no reason any more to
do so, since my sight is totally gone. Old habits die hard. But the
social interaction skills remain.
some of the girls

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:35
Subject: RE: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard


I've stayed out of this, but couldn't resist any longer.
Blind people have some very distinct advantages. Among many, two are:
1. No temptation to look at your feet when ballroom dancing; and
2. No temptation to look at the keyboard while typing.
I actually became a much faster typist after I lost my sight. I learned

(sort of) in high school. The course was offered in the "business"
class,
which was a euphemism for teaching secretaries. It was a great excuse
to
meet girls. I didn't learn much beyond the home row.
In those days, the challenge was to remember to change the ribbon
promptly.
I still remember, in horror, the couple of times that I typed a college
essay only to be told by my reader that the ribbon had run out and that
all
I had were white pages with indentations. OUCH!
I cannot imagine how easy it would be to learn typing with JAWS running,
or
even with a Braille display. Just memorize the layout and, as Dave
said,
practice, practice, practice.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:19 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard

Cy,

Thanks! And did you notice that even the spell-checker foiled me in my
use
of the word "complete" where it should have been "completely"? Ah, well,
even if tastefully composed, not carefully composed enough, I guess.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:11
Subject: RE: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard


Dave,
Excellent advice.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar Going 60
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 11:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard

Agree wholeheartedly.

What's the point in labeling the keys? If you should sit down at another
computer, you'd be complete lost without your crutch. Learn the home
keys (A
S D F and J k L ;) and the proper fingers to use for moving above and
below.

Practice, practice, practice. Touch typing is easy once you force
yourself
to follow the patterns.

Then the spell-checker is your next best friend.


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "lauren" <childress54@...>
To: <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 21:41
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard


I was taught to type like a sighted person would learn. i never used
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Angel
 

They were work horses too. I have one, and still use it.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 4:35 PM
Subject: RE: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard


Lord, it sounds like a Hall throwing its band. As you didn't grow up
blind, I may have to explain that one off list. A Hall brailler was one
of the ugliest pieces of equipment you'll ever see, but fairly
functional.
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Cy Selfridge
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 4:26 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard
On those old Underwood typewriters if you slightly pressed the backspace
key while doing the carriage return the thing would make a horrid noise.
(LOLLOLLOL
Also, on those old typewriters one could disable the carriage return
stops and when you slammed the carriage back it would just continue off
the typewriter and onto the floor. (sad face) Cy
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:22 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard
Ted,
Yes, I also recall typing class in middle school, and there was music
played so that we were forced to type the exercises to the beat, just to
force faster and faster reactions. Yes, and there were some social
interaction opportunities, but no dancing was allowed.
My problem with having had sight earlier is that I still crane my neck
to look at the display, when there is absolutely no reason any more to
do so, since my sight is totally gone. Old habits die hard. But the
social interaction skills remain.
some of the girls
Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:35
Subject: RE: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard
I've stayed out of this, but couldn't resist any longer.
Blind people have some very distinct advantages. Among many, two are:
1. No temptation to look at your feet when ballroom dancing; and
2. No temptation to look at the keyboard while typing.
I actually became a much faster typist after I lost my sight. I learned
(sort of) in high school. The course was offered in the "business"
class, which was a euphemism for teaching secretaries. It was a great excuse
to meet girls. I didn't learn much beyond the home row.
In those days, the challenge was to remember to change the ribbon
promptly. I still remember, in horror, the couple of times that I typed a college essay only to be told by my reader that the ribbon had run out and that
all I had were white pages with indentations. OUCH!
I cannot imagine how easy it would be to learn typing with JAWS running,
or even with a Braille display. Just memorize the layout and, as Dave
said, practice, practice, practice.
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:19 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard
Cy,
Thanks! And did you notice that even the spell-checker foiled me in my
use
of the word "complete" where it should have been "completely"? Ah, well,
even if tastefully composed, not carefully composed enough, I guess.
Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:11
Subject: RE: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard
Dave,
Excellent advice.
Cy
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar Going 60
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 11:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard
Agree wholeheartedly.
What's the point in labeling the keys? If you should sit down at another
computer, you'd be complete lost without your crutch. Learn the home
keys (A
S D F and J k L ;) and the proper fingers to use for moving above and
below.
Practice, practice, practice. Touch typing is easy once you force
yourself
to follow the patterns.
Then the spell-checker is your next best friend.
Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit
----- Original Message -----
From: "lauren" <childress54@...>
To: <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 21:41
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard
I was taught to type like a sighted person would learn. i never used
any special keyboards or anything like that.
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Richard Holloway
 

I think the point is to allow speed and/or convenience on your primary computer. There are a LOT of unique features on my own computer that I don't have elsewhere. That doesn't mean I cannot work on another computer. I just work best on my own machine.

At home, my daughter prefers a Braille keyboard for most JAWS work, but will jump to her qwerty keyboard for certain functions. At school it is qwerty only as they don't maintain the extra keyboard for her on a PC (mostly she uses a Braille keyboarded notetaker at school).

By your logic, she shouldn't use an improved (for her) Braille keyboard at home since she may not be as fast on other computers because she uses qwerty less at home.

I realize many users on this list may not be mouse users, or may not use them a great deal, but sighted users, especially artists, draftsmen, and such have countless mouses, trackballs, pen and stylus devices, track pads... You name it! Again, these people just know on other machines it may be they have to revert to a basic el-cheapo mouse. Why limit JAWS users options?

Sent from my iPad

On Jun 26, 2012, at 1:07 AM, "Farfar Going 60" <dgcarlson@...> wrote:

Agree wholeheartedly.

What's the point in labeling the keys? If you should sit down at another
computer, you'd be complete lost without your crutch. Learn the home keys
(A S D F and J k L ;) and the proper fingers to use for moving above and
below.

Practice, practice, practice. Touch typing is easy once you force yourself
to follow the patterns.

Then the spell-checker is your next best friend.


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
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To: <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 21:41
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard


I was taught to type like a sighted person would learn. i never used
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Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Hmmm, you can't reply directly to sender on this list; it's not just me.
I remember my dad brought several of those things home and modified
them, replacing the stretchy cloth bands with thin steel cables. You
can bet those bad boys stayed put after that. Of course A Perkins has
its own problems with tension, especially the back space key.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Angel
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 6:48 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard

They were work horses too. I have one, and still use it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 4:35 PM
Subject: RE: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard


Lord, it sounds like a Hall throwing its band. As you didn't grow up
blind, I may have to explain that one off list. A Hall brailler was
one
of the ugliest pieces of equipment you'll ever see, but fairly
functional.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Cy Selfridge
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 4:26 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard

On those old Underwood typewriters if you slightly pressed the
backspace
key while doing the carriage return the thing would make a horrid
noise.
(LOLLOLLOL
Also, on those old typewriters one could disable the carriage return
stops and when you slammed the carriage back it would just continue
off
the typewriter and onto the floor. (sad face) Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:22 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard

Ted,

Yes, I also recall typing class in middle school, and there was music
played so that we were forced to type the exercises to the beat, just
to
force faster and faster reactions. Yes, and there were some social
interaction opportunities, but no dancing was allowed.

My problem with having had sight earlier is that I still crane my neck
to look at the display, when there is absolutely no reason any more to
do so, since my sight is totally gone. Old habits die hard. But the
social interaction skills remain.
some of the girls

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:35
Subject: RE: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard


I've stayed out of this, but couldn't resist any longer.
Blind people have some very distinct advantages. Among many, two are:
1. No temptation to look at your feet when ballroom dancing; and
2. No temptation to look at the keyboard while typing.
I actually became a much faster typist after I lost my sight. I
learned

(sort of) in high school. The course was offered in the "business"
class,
which was a euphemism for teaching secretaries. It was a great excuse
to
meet girls. I didn't learn much beyond the home row.
In those days, the challenge was to remember to change the ribbon
promptly.
I still remember, in horror, the couple of times that I typed a
college
essay only to be told by my reader that the ribbon had run out and
that
all
I had were white pages with indentations. OUCH!
I cannot imagine how easy it would be to learn typing with JAWS
running,
or
even with a Braille display. Just memorize the layout and, as Dave
said,
practice, practice, practice.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:19 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard

Cy,

Thanks! And did you notice that even the spell-checker foiled me in my
use
of the word "complete" where it should have been "completely"? Ah,
well,
even if tastefully composed, not carefully composed enough, I guess.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:11
Subject: RE: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard


Dave,
Excellent advice.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar Going 60
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 11:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard

Agree wholeheartedly.

What's the point in labeling the keys? If you should sit down at
another
computer, you'd be complete lost without your crutch. Learn the home
keys (A
S D F and J k L ;) and the proper fingers to use for moving above and
below.

Practice, practice, practice. Touch typing is easy once you force
yourself
to follow the patterns.

Then the spell-checker is your next best friend.


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "lauren" <childress54@...>
To: <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 21:41
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard


I was taught to type like a sighted person would learn. i never used
any special keyboards or anything like that.

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Adrian Spratt
 

Actually, Ted, it's another inconsistency. I can reply off-list to
individual posts.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 7:57 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard

Hmmm, you can't reply directly to sender on this list; it's not just me.
I remember my dad brought several of those things home and modified them,
replacing the stretchy cloth bands with thin steel cables. You can bet
those bad boys stayed put after that. Of course A Perkins has its own
problems with tension, especially the back space key.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Angel
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 6:48 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard

They were work horses too. I have one, and still use it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 4:35 PM
Subject: RE: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard


Lord, it sounds like a Hall throwing its band. As you didn't grow up
blind, I may have to explain that one off list. A Hall brailler was
one
of the ugliest pieces of equipment you'll ever see, but fairly
functional.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Cy Selfridge
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 4:26 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard

On those old Underwood typewriters if you slightly pressed the
backspace
key while doing the carriage return the thing would make a horrid
noise.
(LOLLOLLOL
Also, on those old typewriters one could disable the carriage return
stops and when you slammed the carriage back it would just continue
off
the typewriter and onto the floor. (sad face) Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:22 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard

Ted,

Yes, I also recall typing class in middle school, and there was music
played so that we were forced to type the exercises to the beat, just
to
force faster and faster reactions. Yes, and there were some social
interaction opportunities, but no dancing was allowed.

My problem with having had sight earlier is that I still crane my neck
to look at the display, when there is absolutely no reason any more to
do so, since my sight is totally gone. Old habits die hard. But the
social interaction skills remain.
some of the girls

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:35
Subject: RE: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard


I've stayed out of this, but couldn't resist any longer.
Blind people have some very distinct advantages. Among many, two are:
1. No temptation to look at your feet when ballroom dancing; and 2.
No temptation to look at the keyboard while typing.
I actually became a much faster typist after I lost my sight. I
learned

(sort of) in high school. The course was offered in the "business"
class,
which was a euphemism for teaching secretaries. It was a great excuse
to meet girls. I didn't learn much beyond the home row.
In those days, the challenge was to remember to change the ribbon
promptly.
I still remember, in horror, the couple of times that I typed a
college
essay only to be told by my reader that the ribbon had run out and
that
all
I had were white pages with indentations. OUCH!
I cannot imagine how easy it would be to learn typing with JAWS
running,
or
even with a Braille display. Just memorize the layout and, as Dave
said, practice, practice, practice.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:19 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard

Cy,

Thanks! And did you notice that even the spell-checker foiled me in my
use of the word "complete" where it should have been "completely"? Ah,
well,
even if tastefully composed, not carefully composed enough, I guess.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:11
Subject: RE: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard


Dave,
Excellent advice.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar Going 60
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 11:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard

Agree wholeheartedly.

What's the point in labeling the keys? If you should sit down at
another
computer, you'd be complete lost without your crutch. Learn the home
keys (A S D F and J k L ;) and the proper fingers to use for moving
above and below.

Practice, practice, practice. Touch typing is easy once you force
yourself to follow the patterns.

Then the spell-checker is your next best friend.


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "lauren" <childress54@...>
To: <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 21:41
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard


I was taught to type like a sighted person would learn. i never used
any special keyboards or anything like that.

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Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

I believe that. That feature has always been as quirky as the dickens.
I'm sure I sent a reply off list a few days ago.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 8:24 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard

Actually, Ted, it's another inconsistency. I can reply off-list to
individual posts.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 7:57 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard

Hmmm, you can't reply directly to sender on this list; it's not just me.
I remember my dad brought several of those things home and modified
them, replacing the stretchy cloth bands with thin steel cables. You
can bet those bad boys stayed put after that. Of course A Perkins has
its own problems with tension, especially the back space key.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Angel
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 6:48 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard

They were work horses too. I have one, and still use it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 4:35 PM
Subject: RE: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard


Lord, it sounds like a Hall throwing its band. As you didn't grow up
blind, I may have to explain that one off list. A Hall brailler was
one
of the ugliest pieces of equipment you'll ever see, but fairly
functional.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Cy Selfridge
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 4:26 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard

On those old Underwood typewriters if you slightly pressed the
backspace
key while doing the carriage return the thing would make a horrid
noise.
(LOLLOLLOL
Also, on those old typewriters one could disable the carriage return
stops and when you slammed the carriage back it would just continue
off
the typewriter and onto the floor. (sad face) Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:22 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard

Ted,

Yes, I also recall typing class in middle school, and there was music
played so that we were forced to type the exercises to the beat, just
to
force faster and faster reactions. Yes, and there were some social
interaction opportunities, but no dancing was allowed.

My problem with having had sight earlier is that I still crane my neck
to look at the display, when there is absolutely no reason any more to
do so, since my sight is totally gone. Old habits die hard. But the
social interaction skills remain.
some of the girls

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:35
Subject: RE: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard


I've stayed out of this, but couldn't resist any longer.
Blind people have some very distinct advantages. Among many, two are:
1. No temptation to look at your feet when ballroom dancing; and 2.
No temptation to look at the keyboard while typing.
I actually became a much faster typist after I lost my sight. I
learned

(sort of) in high school. The course was offered in the "business"
class,
which was a euphemism for teaching secretaries. It was a great excuse
to meet girls. I didn't learn much beyond the home row.
In those days, the challenge was to remember to change the ribbon
promptly.
I still remember, in horror, the couple of times that I typed a
college
essay only to be told by my reader that the ribbon had run out and
that
all
I had were white pages with indentations. OUCH!
I cannot imagine how easy it would be to learn typing with JAWS
running,
or
even with a Braille display. Just memorize the layout and, as Dave
said, practice, practice, practice.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:19 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard

Cy,

Thanks! And did you notice that even the spell-checker foiled me in my
use of the word "complete" where it should have been "completely"? Ah,
well,
even if tastefully composed, not carefully composed enough, I guess.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:11
Subject: RE: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard


Dave,
Excellent advice.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar Going 60
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 11:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard

Agree wholeheartedly.

What's the point in labeling the keys? If you should sit down at
another
computer, you'd be complete lost without your crutch. Learn the home
keys (A S D F and J k L ;) and the proper fingers to use for moving
above and below.

Practice, practice, practice. Touch typing is easy once you force
yourself to follow the patterns.

Then the spell-checker is your next best friend.


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "lauren" <childress54@...>
To: <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 21:41
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard


I was taught to type like a sighted person would learn. i never used
any special keyboards or anything like that.

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Dave...
 

Replying directly to sender works fine. Insert+Shift+R. Perhaps it's a
matter of which E-Mail program, which operating system, which version of
JAWS, and which type of keyboard layout is being used.


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 04:57
Subject: RE: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard


Hmmm, you can't reply directly to sender on this list; it's not just me.
I remember my dad brought several of those things home and modified
them, replacing the stretchy cloth bands with thin steel cables. You
can bet those bad boys stayed put after that. Of course A Perkins has
its own problems with tension, especially the back space key.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Angel
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 6:48 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard

They were work horses too. I have one, and still use it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 4:35 PM
Subject: RE: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard


Lord, it sounds like a Hall throwing its band. As you didn't grow up
blind, I may have to explain that one off list. A Hall brailler was
one
of the ugliest pieces of equipment you'll ever see, but fairly
functional.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Cy Selfridge
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 4:26 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard

On those old Underwood typewriters if you slightly pressed the
backspace
key while doing the carriage return the thing would make a horrid
noise.
(LOLLOLLOL
Also, on those old typewriters one could disable the carriage return
stops and when you slammed the carriage back it would just continue
off
the typewriter and onto the floor. (sad face) Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:22 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard

Ted,

Yes, I also recall typing class in middle school, and there was music
played so that we were forced to type the exercises to the beat, just
to
force faster and faster reactions. Yes, and there were some social
interaction opportunities, but no dancing was allowed.

My problem with having had sight earlier is that I still crane my neck
to look at the display, when there is absolutely no reason any more to
do so, since my sight is totally gone. Old habits die hard. But the
social interaction skills remain.
some of the girls

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:35
Subject: RE: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard


I've stayed out of this, but couldn't resist any longer.
Blind people have some very distinct advantages. Among many, two are:
1. No temptation to look at your feet when ballroom dancing; and
2. No temptation to look at the keyboard while typing.
I actually became a much faster typist after I lost my sight. I
learned

(sort of) in high school. The course was offered in the "business"
class,
which was a euphemism for teaching secretaries. It was a great excuse
to
meet girls. I didn't learn much beyond the home row.
In those days, the challenge was to remember to change the ribbon
promptly.
I still remember, in horror, the couple of times that I typed a
college
essay only to be told by my reader that the ribbon had run out and
that
all
I had were white pages with indentations. OUCH!
I cannot imagine how easy it would be to learn typing with JAWS
running,
or
even with a Braille display. Just memorize the layout and, as Dave
said,
practice, practice, practice.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:19 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard

Cy,

Thanks! And did you notice that even the spell-checker foiled me in my
use
of the word "complete" where it should have been "completely"? Ah,
well,
even if tastefully composed, not carefully composed enough, I guess.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:11
Subject: RE: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard


Dave,
Excellent advice.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar Going 60
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 11:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard

Agree wholeheartedly.

What's the point in labeling the keys? If you should sit down at
another
computer, you'd be complete lost without your crutch. Learn the home
keys (A
S D F and J k L ;) and the proper fingers to use for moving above and
below.

Practice, practice, practice. Touch typing is easy once you force
yourself
to follow the patterns.

Then the spell-checker is your next best friend.


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "lauren" <childress54@...>
To: <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 21:41
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard


I was taught to type like a sighted person would learn. i never used
any special keyboards or anything like that.

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Cy Selfridge
 

Dave,
Well, the reply to sender also depends on the phase of the moon and the
barometric pressure. (LOLLOLLOL)
I have W7, Office 2007, JAWS 11 and sometimes it works and sometimes it does
not.
Always check the "to" address after requesting the reply to sender. Even
though JAWS faithfully announces that it has done what you asked the address
generated may well still be the group address.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 8:03 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard

Replying directly to sender works fine. Insert+Shift+R. Perhaps it's a
matter of which E-Mail program, which operating system, which version of
JAWS, and which type of keyboard layout is being used.


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 04:57
Subject: RE: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard


Hmmm, you can't reply directly to sender on this list; it's not just me.
I remember my dad brought several of those things home and modified
them, replacing the stretchy cloth bands with thin steel cables. You
can bet those bad boys stayed put after that. Of course A Perkins has
its own problems with tension, especially the back space key.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Angel
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 6:48 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard

They were work horses too. I have one, and still use it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 4:35 PM
Subject: RE: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard


Lord, it sounds like a Hall throwing its band. As you didn't grow up
blind, I may have to explain that one off list. A Hall brailler was
one
of the ugliest pieces of equipment you'll ever see, but fairly
functional.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Cy Selfridge
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 4:26 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard

On those old Underwood typewriters if you slightly pressed the
backspace
key while doing the carriage return the thing would make a horrid
noise.
(LOLLOLLOL
Also, on those old typewriters one could disable the carriage return
stops and when you slammed the carriage back it would just continue
off
the typewriter and onto the floor. (sad face) Cy

-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:22 PM
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Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard

Ted,

Yes, I also recall typing class in middle school, and there was music
played so that we were forced to type the exercises to the beat, just
to
force faster and faster reactions. Yes, and there were some social
interaction opportunities, but no dancing was allowed.

My problem with having had sight earlier is that I still crane my neck
to look at the display, when there is absolutely no reason any more to
do so, since my sight is totally gone. Old habits die hard. But the
social interaction skills remain.
some of the girls

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:35
Subject: RE: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard


I've stayed out of this, but couldn't resist any longer.
Blind people have some very distinct advantages. Among many, two are:
1. No temptation to look at your feet when ballroom dancing; and
2. No temptation to look at the keyboard while typing.
I actually became a much faster typist after I lost my sight. I
learned

(sort of) in high school. The course was offered in the "business"
class,
which was a euphemism for teaching secretaries. It was a great excuse
to
meet girls. I didn't learn much beyond the home row.
In those days, the challenge was to remember to change the ribbon
promptly.
I still remember, in horror, the couple of times that I typed a
college
essay only to be told by my reader that the ribbon had run out and
that
all
I had were white pages with indentations. OUCH!
I cannot imagine how easy it would be to learn typing with JAWS
running,
or
even with a Braille display. Just memorize the layout and, as Dave
said,
practice, practice, practice.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:19 PM
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Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard

Cy,

Thanks! And did you notice that even the spell-checker foiled me in my
use
of the word "complete" where it should have been "completely"? Ah,
well,
even if tastefully composed, not carefully composed enough, I guess.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:11
Subject: RE: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard


Dave,
Excellent advice.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar Going 60
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 11:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard

Agree wholeheartedly.

What's the point in labeling the keys? If you should sit down at
another
computer, you'd be complete lost without your crutch. Learn the home
keys (A
S D F and J k L ;) and the proper fingers to use for moving above and
below.

Practice, practice, practice. Touch typing is easy once you force
yourself
to follow the patterns.

Then the spell-checker is your next best friend.


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "lauren" <childress54@...>
To: <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 21:41
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard


I was taught to type like a sighted person would learn. i never used
any special keyboards or anything like that.

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Cy Selfridge
 

Well, as I just said on an earlier post, sometimes it works and other times,
nope.
I just tried the insert+shift+R and, I'll be switched, it worked.
Oh well, makes one scratch one's head in wonderment.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 6:24 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard

Actually, Ted, it's another inconsistency. I can reply off-list to
individual posts.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 7:57 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard

Hmmm, you can't reply directly to sender on this list; it's not just me.
I remember my dad brought several of those things home and modified them,
replacing the stretchy cloth bands with thin steel cables. You can bet
those bad boys stayed put after that. Of course A Perkins has its own
problems with tension, especially the back space key.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Angel
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 6:48 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard

They were work horses too. I have one, and still use it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 4:35 PM
Subject: RE: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard


Lord, it sounds like a Hall throwing its band. As you didn't grow up
blind, I may have to explain that one off list. A Hall brailler was
one
of the ugliest pieces of equipment you'll ever see, but fairly
functional.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Cy Selfridge
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 4:26 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard

On those old Underwood typewriters if you slightly pressed the
backspace
key while doing the carriage return the thing would make a horrid
noise.
(LOLLOLLOL
Also, on those old typewriters one could disable the carriage return
stops and when you slammed the carriage back it would just continue
off
the typewriter and onto the floor. (sad face) Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:22 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard

Ted,

Yes, I also recall typing class in middle school, and there was music
played so that we were forced to type the exercises to the beat, just
to
force faster and faster reactions. Yes, and there were some social
interaction opportunities, but no dancing was allowed.

My problem with having had sight earlier is that I still crane my neck
to look at the display, when there is absolutely no reason any more to
do so, since my sight is totally gone. Old habits die hard. But the
social interaction skills remain.
some of the girls

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:35
Subject: RE: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard


I've stayed out of this, but couldn't resist any longer.
Blind people have some very distinct advantages. Among many, two are:
1. No temptation to look at your feet when ballroom dancing; and 2.
No temptation to look at the keyboard while typing.
I actually became a much faster typist after I lost my sight. I
learned

(sort of) in high school. The course was offered in the "business"
class,
which was a euphemism for teaching secretaries. It was a great excuse
to meet girls. I didn't learn much beyond the home row.
In those days, the challenge was to remember to change the ribbon
promptly.
I still remember, in horror, the couple of times that I typed a
college
essay only to be told by my reader that the ribbon had run out and
that
all
I had were white pages with indentations. OUCH!
I cannot imagine how easy it would be to learn typing with JAWS
running,
or
even with a Braille display. Just memorize the layout and, as Dave
said, practice, practice, practice.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:19 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard

Cy,

Thanks! And did you notice that even the spell-checker foiled me in my
use of the word "complete" where it should have been "completely"? Ah,
well,
even if tastefully composed, not carefully composed enough, I guess.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:11
Subject: RE: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard


Dave,
Excellent advice.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar Going 60
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 11:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard

Agree wholeheartedly.

What's the point in labeling the keys? If you should sit down at
another
computer, you'd be complete lost without your crutch. Learn the home
keys (A S D F and J k L ;) and the proper fingers to use for moving
above and below.

Practice, practice, practice. Touch typing is easy once you force
yourself to follow the patterns.

Then the spell-checker is your next best friend.


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "lauren" <childress54@...>
To: <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 21:41
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws and the Keyboard


I was taught to type like a sighted person would learn. i never used
any special keyboards or anything like that.

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