Is Research It really necessary?


Adrian Spratt
 

I recently came across a list of Google search suggestions that ought to
save JAWS users from getting agitated every time Research It breaks down, as
it invariably does. Below is a list of search functions that I've just
tested. I am based in the US, so some suggestions will be different for
versions of Google in other countries. For example, we in the US will need
to add a state or country after the place name "London," but users of
Google.co.uk won't when searching for the capital. Unlike Research It,
google isn't US-centric.

1. To find the weather in a particular location, type the city's name
followed by the word "weather." Thus:

san francisco weather

Note. I avoid using uppercase when doing Google searches.

the first Google result lists today's conditions and those for the days
upcoming.

Here are the terms I entered to find out the weather in Prague, Czech
Republic:

prague czech weather

2. Time works in much the same way. Type the location followed by the word
"time" (not in quotations). Thus:

san francisco time

3. For a word's definition, type the word "definition" followed by a colon
and immediately by the word in question. Thus:

definition:arbitrary

An advantage google has is that if you misspell a word, it automatically
offers a correction.

4. For currency conversion, the crucial word is "in." Beyond that, Google is
flexible. I obtained conversions for the following search terms:

$1 in sterling

1 eur in usd

These are just two examples.

5. Google will perform math operations, thus saving you from having to open
a calculator. The article gave as an example a sine problem. For my test, I
typed the following in the search field:

(2+3)*5

Google promptly reported the correct answer, 25.

6. As for sports, the article's author is based in India, and the examples
he gave involved cricket. Through a bit of tweaking, I tested Google's
ability to produce baseball results. The terms

baseball scores

produced all of yesterday's results. It's morning here, so today's games
haven't been played.

Note. The list of results I got begins with one result from Monday, April
23. A glitch, but a tiny one.

7. I know from past experience that entering just the tracking number of a
UPS shipment in the google search field will provide the information I need,
although I add "ups" as a second term to make sure.

This list is hardly exhaustive. Other simple searches for other functions
can be interpolated from these examples.

Conclusion, and relevancy to this JAWS list: FS should divert its resources
from Research It to applications needed for the workplace.
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Soronel Haetir
 

I've pretty much thought that RS was a piece of trash since it was
added to jaws. I would have much rather they had done the OCR bit
versions earlier than they did rather than spend any effort on RS.
There are simply so many alternatives to what RS does that it's almost
a "what's the point?" sort of thing.

On 4/25/12, Adrian Spratt <Adrian@adrianspratt.com> wrote:
I recently came across a list of Google search suggestions that ought to
save JAWS users from getting agitated every time Research It breaks down,
as
it invariably does. Below is a list of search functions that I've just
tested. I am based in the US, so some suggestions will be different for
versions of Google in other countries. For example, we in the US will need
to add a state or country after the place name "London," but users of
Google.co.uk won't when searching for the capital. Unlike Research It,
google isn't US-centric.

1. To find the weather in a particular location, type the city's name
followed by the word "weather." Thus:

san francisco weather

Note. I avoid using uppercase when doing Google searches.

the first Google result lists today's conditions and those for the days
upcoming.

Here are the terms I entered to find out the weather in Prague, Czech
Republic:

prague czech weather

2. Time works in much the same way. Type the location followed by the word
"time" (not in quotations). Thus:

san francisco time

3. For a word's definition, type the word "definition" followed by a colon
and immediately by the word in question. Thus:

definition:arbitrary

An advantage google has is that if you misspell a word, it automatically
offers a correction.

4. For currency conversion, the crucial word is "in." Beyond that, Google
is
flexible. I obtained conversions for the following search terms:

$1 in sterling

1 eur in usd

These are just two examples.

5. Google will perform math operations, thus saving you from having to open
a calculator. The article gave as an example a sine problem. For my test, I
typed the following in the search field:

(2+3)*5

Google promptly reported the correct answer, 25.

6. As for sports, the article's author is based in India, and the examples
he gave involved cricket. Through a bit of tweaking, I tested Google's
ability to produce baseball results. The terms

baseball scores

produced all of yesterday's results. It's morning here, so today's games
haven't been played.

Note. The list of results I got begins with one result from Monday, April
23. A glitch, but a tiny one.

7. I know from past experience that entering just the tracking number of a
UPS shipment in the google search field will provide the information I
need,
although I add "ups" as a second term to make sure.

This list is hardly exhaustive. Other simple searches for other functions
can be interpolated from these examples.

Conclusion, and relevancy to this JAWS list: FS should divert its resources
from Research It to applications needed for the workplace.
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Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
 

A couple more:
Google will also look up the latest quote for a stock symbol, and convert between imperial and metric.
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I sent Adrian's message on to FS. Perhaps a few others should as well, once we add more easy google search examples to the list.
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Dave...
 

Adrian,

Bravo! And I see that Chris Smart made you famous (or infamous) in the eyes
of FS. Amazing what tools we have out there, just waiting for someone
dedicated to discover, organize, and share. Thanks. I may have to switch my
default home page to Google instead of Yahoo.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit

----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 08:14
Subject: Is Research It really necessary?


I recently came across a list of Google search suggestions that ought to
save JAWS users from getting agitated every time Research It breaks down, as
it invariably does. Below is a list of search functions that I've just
tested. I am based in the US, so some suggestions will be different for
versions of Google in other countries. For example, we in the US will need
to add a state or country after the place name "London," but users of
Google.co.uk won't when searching for the capital. Unlike Research It,
google isn't US-centric.

1. To find the weather in a particular location, type the city's name
followed by the word "weather." Thus:

san francisco weather

Note. I avoid using uppercase when doing Google searches.

the first Google result lists today's conditions and those for the days
upcoming.

Here are the terms I entered to find out the weather in Prague, Czech
Republic:

prague czech weather

2. Time works in much the same way. Type the location followed by the word
"time" (not in quotations). Thus:

san francisco time

3. For a word's definition, type the word "definition" followed by a colon
and immediately by the word in question. Thus:

definition:arbitrary

An advantage google has is that if you misspell a word, it automatically
offers a correction.

4. For currency conversion, the crucial word is "in." Beyond that, Google is
flexible. I obtained conversions for the following search terms:

$1 in sterling

1 eur in usd

These are just two examples.

5. Google will perform math operations, thus saving you from having to open
a calculator. The article gave as an example a sine problem. For my test, I
typed the following in the search field:

(2+3)*5

Google promptly reported the correct answer, 25.

6. As for sports, the article's author is based in India, and the examples
he gave involved cricket. Through a bit of tweaking, I tested Google's
ability to produce baseball results. The terms

baseball scores

produced all of yesterday's results. It's morning here, so today's games
haven't been played.

Note. The list of results I got begins with one result from Monday, April
23. A glitch, but a tiny one.

7. I know from past experience that entering just the tracking number of a
UPS shipment in the google search field will provide the information I need,
although I add "ups" as a second term to make sure.

This list is hardly exhaustive. Other simple searches for other functions
can be interpolated from these examples.

Conclusion, and relevancy to this JAWS list: FS should divert its resources
from Research It to applications needed for the workplace.
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http://www.google.com/help/features.html

for yet more easy things to find through Google. Note the sports scores item.


At 12:44 PM 4/25/2012, you wrote:
Adrian,

Bravo! And I see that Chris Smart made you famous (or infamous) in the eyes
of FS. Amazing what tools we have out there, just waiting for someone
dedicated to discover, organize, and share. Thanks. I may have to switch my
default home page to Google instead of Yahoo.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 08:14
Subject: Is Research It really necessary?


I recently came across a list of Google search suggestions that ought to
save JAWS users from getting agitated every time Research It breaks down, as
it invariably does. Below is a list of search functions that I've just
tested. I am based in the US, so some suggestions will be different for
versions of Google in other countries. For example, we in the US will need
to add a state or country after the place name "London," but users of
Google.co.uk won't when searching for the capital. Unlike Research It,
google isn't US-centric.

1. To find the weather in a particular location, type the city's name
followed by the word "weather." Thus:

san francisco weather

Note. I avoid using uppercase when doing Google searches.

the first Google result lists today's conditions and those for the days
upcoming.

Here are the terms I entered to find out the weather in Prague, Czech
Republic:

prague czech weather

2. Time works in much the same way. Type the location followed by the word
"time" (not in quotations). Thus:

san francisco time

3. For a word's definition, type the word "definition" followed by a colon
and immediately by the word in question. Thus:

definition:arbitrary

An advantage google has is that if you misspell a word, it automatically
offers a correction.

4. For currency conversion, the crucial word is "in." Beyond that, Google is
flexible. I obtained conversions for the following search terms:

$1 in sterling

1 eur in usd

These are just two examples.

5. Google will perform math operations, thus saving you from having to open
a calculator. The article gave as an example a sine problem. For my test, I
typed the following in the search field:

(2+3)*5

Google promptly reported the correct answer, 25.

6. As for sports, the article's author is based in India, and the examples
he gave involved cricket. Through a bit of tweaking, I tested Google's
ability to produce baseball results. The terms

baseball scores

produced all of yesterday's results. It's morning here, so today's games
haven't been played.

Note. The list of results I got begins with one result from Monday, April
23. A glitch, but a tiny one.

7. I know from past experience that entering just the tracking number of a
UPS shipment in the google search field will provide the information I need,
although I add "ups" as a second term to make sure.

This list is hardly exhaustive. Other simple searches for other functions
can be interpolated from these examples.

Conclusion, and relevancy to this JAWS list: FS should divert its resources
from Research It to applications needed for the workplace.
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Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonboy13@...>
 

Hello,
Google can answer just about any question if you type it into the search box. It might not be by Google, but the results will bring up the best results.
Just click on the first or second result and you have it!
Example:
Why is the sky blue?
http://www.sciencemadesimple.com/sky_blue.html
How do you say dance in Italian
http://translate.google.com/translate_t?hl=en&q=dance&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sl=en&tl=it&sa=X&ei=jDGYT84GxJmJAvnk7NMP&ved=0CCoQrgYwAA#

The only question I haven't been able to find an answer to is:
Can I buy a laptop without a screen

For some reason no one seems to be asking that question anywhere in the world...
And if that's a dumb question:
What color are Dorothy's red shoes
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_color_were_Dorothy's_slippers_in_'The_Wonderful_Wizard_of_Oz'

So any research function is mitigated by Google's superior searching power.
What's the meaning of life?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meaning_of_life
4+9-100000000*2.48485921+0.000001*3^5(2*5.09876)-(5.0129)
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&biw=837&bih=443&q=4%2B9-100000000*2.48485921%2B0.000001*3+square+root+5%282*5.09876%29-%285.0129%29&oq=4%2B9-100000000*2.48485921%2B0.000001*3+square+root+5%282*5.09876%29-%285.0129%29&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_nf=1&gs_l=serp.3...20649.20838.0.21686.2.2.0.0.0.0.183.342.0j2.2.0.Q6z3iZmw3jw

Sooo, unless research it is better than Google calculator or Microsoft calculator, I think it's totally useless. I've never found a need to use it.
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar,Thinking it's Time for a Long Vacation
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 9:44 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Is Research It really necessary?

Adrian,

Bravo! And I see that Chris Smart made you famous (or infamous) in the eyes
of FS. Amazing what tools we have out there, just waiting for someone
dedicated to discover, organize, and share. Thanks. I may have to switch my
default home page to Google instead of Yahoo.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 08:14
Subject: Is Research It really necessary?


I recently came across a list of Google search suggestions that ought to
save JAWS users from getting agitated every time Research It breaks down, as
it invariably does. Below is a list of search functions that I've just
tested. I am based in the US, so some suggestions will be different for
versions of Google in other countries. For example, we in the US will need
to add a state or country after the place name "London," but users of
Google.co.uk won't when searching for the capital. Unlike Research It,
google isn't US-centric.

1. To find the weather in a particular location, type the city's name
followed by the word "weather." Thus:

san francisco weather

Note. I avoid using uppercase when doing Google searches.

the first Google result lists today's conditions and those for the days
upcoming.

Here are the terms I entered to find out the weather in Prague, Czech
Republic:

prague czech weather

2. Time works in much the same way. Type the location followed by the word
"time" (not in quotations). Thus:

san francisco time

3. For a word's definition, type the word "definition" followed by a colon
and immediately by the word in question. Thus:

definition:arbitrary

An advantage google has is that if you misspell a word, it automatically
offers a correction.

4. For currency conversion, the crucial word is "in." Beyond that, Google is
flexible. I obtained conversions for the following search terms:

$1 in sterling

1 eur in usd

These are just two examples.

5. Google will perform math operations, thus saving you from having to open
a calculator. The article gave as an example a sine problem. For my test, I
typed the following in the search field:

(2+3)*5

Google promptly reported the correct answer, 25.

6. As for sports, the article's author is based in India, and the examples
he gave involved cricket. Through a bit of tweaking, I tested Google's
ability to produce baseball results. The terms

baseball scores

produced all of yesterday's results. It's morning here, so today's games
haven't been played.

Note. The list of results I got begins with one result from Monday, April
23. A glitch, but a tiny one.

7. I know from past experience that entering just the tracking number of a
UPS shipment in the google search field will provide the information I need,
although I add "ups" as a second term to make sure.

This list is hardly exhaustive. Other simple searches for other functions
can be interpolated from these examples.

Conclusion, and relevancy to this JAWS list: FS should divert its resources
from Research It to applications needed for the workplace.
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Dave...
 

Interesting. Since I use Yahoo Search, I tried several of these and got the
same results. So I don't need to switch, I just need to learn and explore.
Very nice. ResearchIt? What ResearchIt? We don't got no ResearchIt! We don't
need no stinkin' ResearchIt! Vamanos!

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Smart" <csmart8@cogeco.ca>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 10:01
Subject: Re: Is Research It really necessary?


http://www.google.com/help/features.html

for yet more easy things to find through Google. Note the sports
scores item.


At 12:44 PM 4/25/2012, you wrote:
Adrian,

Bravo! And I see that Chris Smart made you famous (or infamous)
in the eyes
of FS. Amazing what tools we have out there, just waiting for someone
dedicated to discover, organize, and share. Thanks. I may have to
switch my
default home page to Google instead of Yahoo.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 08:14
Subject: Is Research It really necessary?


I recently came across a list of Google search suggestions that
ought to
save JAWS users from getting agitated every time Research It
breaks down, as
it invariably does. Below is a list of search functions that I've just
tested. I am based in the US, so some suggestions will be
different for
versions of Google in other countries. For example, we in the US
will need
to add a state or country after the place name "London," but users of
Google.co.uk won't when searching for the capital. Unlike Research It,
google isn't US-centric.

1. To find the weather in a particular location, type the city's name
followed by the word "weather." Thus:

san francisco weather

Note. I avoid using uppercase when doing Google searches.

the first Google result lists today's conditions and those for the
days
upcoming.

Here are the terms I entered to find out the weather in Prague, Czech
Republic:

prague czech weather

2. Time works in much the same way. Type the location followed by
the word
"time" (not in quotations). Thus:

san francisco time

3. For a word's definition, type the word "definition" followed by
a colon
and immediately by the word in question. Thus:

definition:arbitrary

An advantage google has is that if you misspell a word, it
automatically
offers a correction.

4. For currency conversion, the crucial word is "in." Beyond that,
Google is
flexible. I obtained conversions for the following search terms:

$1 in sterling

1 eur in usd

These are just two examples.

5. Google will perform math operations, thus saving you from
having to open
a calculator. The article gave as an example a sine problem. For
my test, I
typed the following in the search field:

(2+3)*5

Google promptly reported the correct answer, 25.

6. As for sports, the article's author is based in India, and the
examples
he gave involved cricket. Through a bit of tweaking, I tested Google's
ability to produce baseball results. The terms

baseball scores

produced all of yesterday's results. It's morning here, so today's
games
haven't been played.

Note. The list of results I got begins with one result from
Monday, April
23. A glitch, but a tiny one.

7. I know from past experience that entering just the tracking
number of a
UPS shipment in the google search field will provide the
information I need,
although I add "ups" as a second term to make sure.

This list is hardly exhaustive. Other simple searches for other
functions
can be interpolated from these examples.

Conclusion, and relevancy to this JAWS list: FS should divert its
resources
from Research It to applications needed for the workplace.
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I've tried finding a laptop without a screen as well, also pretty much
without success

On 4/25/12, Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonboy13@comcast.net> wrote:
Hello,
Google can answer just about any question if you type it into the search
box. It might not be by Google, but the results will bring up the best
results.
Just click on the first or second result and you have it!
Example:
Why is the sky blue?
http://www.sciencemadesimple.com/sky_blue.html
How do you say dance in Italian
http://translate.google.com/translate_t?hl=en&q=dance&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sl=en&tl=it&sa=X&ei=jDGYT84GxJmJAvnk7NMP&ved=0CCoQrgYwAA#

The only question I haven't been able to find an answer to is:
Can I buy a laptop without a screen

For some reason no one seems to be asking that question anywhere in the
world...
And if that's a dumb question:
What color are Dorothy's red shoes
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_color_were_Dorothy's_slippers_in_'The_Wonderful_Wizard_of_Oz'

So any research function is mitigated by Google's superior searching power.
What's the meaning of life?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meaning_of_life
4+9-100000000*2.48485921+0.000001*3^5(2*5.09876)-(5.0129)
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&biw=837&bih=443&q=4%2B9-100000000*2.48485921%2B0.000001*3+square+root+5%282*5.09876%29-%285.0129%29&oq=4%2B9-100000000*2.48485921%2B0.000001*3+square+root+5%282*5.09876%29-%285.0129%29&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_nf=1&gs_l=serp.3...20649.20838.0.21686.2.2.0.0.0.0.183.342.0j2.2.0.Q6z3iZmw3jw

Sooo, unless research it is better than Google calculator or Microsoft
calculator, I think it's totally useless. I've never found a need to use
it.
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar,Thinking it's Time for a Long Vacation
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 9:44 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Is Research It really necessary?

Adrian,

Bravo! And I see that Chris Smart made you famous (or infamous) in the
eyes
of FS. Amazing what tools we have out there, just waiting for someone
dedicated to discover, organize, and share. Thanks. I may have to switch my
default home page to Google instead of Yahoo.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 08:14
Subject: Is Research It really necessary?


I recently came across a list of Google search suggestions that ought to
save JAWS users from getting agitated every time Research It breaks down,
as
it invariably does. Below is a list of search functions that I've just
tested. I am based in the US, so some suggestions will be different for
versions of Google in other countries. For example, we in the US will need
to add a state or country after the place name "London," but users of
Google.co.uk won't when searching for the capital. Unlike Research It,
google isn't US-centric.

1. To find the weather in a particular location, type the city's name
followed by the word "weather." Thus:

san francisco weather

Note. I avoid using uppercase when doing Google searches.

the first Google result lists today's conditions and those for the days
upcoming.

Here are the terms I entered to find out the weather in Prague, Czech
Republic:

prague czech weather

2. Time works in much the same way. Type the location followed by the word
"time" (not in quotations). Thus:

san francisco time

3. For a word's definition, type the word "definition" followed by a colon
and immediately by the word in question. Thus:

definition:arbitrary

An advantage google has is that if you misspell a word, it automatically
offers a correction.

4. For currency conversion, the crucial word is "in." Beyond that, Google
is
flexible. I obtained conversions for the following search terms:

$1 in sterling

1 eur in usd

These are just two examples.

5. Google will perform math operations, thus saving you from having to open
a calculator. The article gave as an example a sine problem. For my test, I
typed the following in the search field:

(2+3)*5

Google promptly reported the correct answer, 25.

6. As for sports, the article's author is based in India, and the examples
he gave involved cricket. Through a bit of tweaking, I tested Google's
ability to produce baseball results. The terms

baseball scores

produced all of yesterday's results. It's morning here, so today's games
haven't been played.

Note. The list of results I got begins with one result from Monday, April
23. A glitch, but a tiny one.

7. I know from past experience that entering just the tracking number of a
UPS shipment in the google search field will provide the information I
need,
although I add "ups" as a second term to make sure.

This list is hardly exhaustive. Other simple searches for other functions
can be interpolated from these examples.

Conclusion, and relevancy to this JAWS list: FS should divert its resources
from Research It to applications needed for the workplace.
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Dave...
 

Brandon,

w/r your question on buying a laptop without a screen...if you are posing a
serious question and not just toying with Google, it occurs to me that a
laptop without a screen would be one without a cover. If you're wanting to
cut down on power consumption you do have the alternative to turn down the
brightness, turn off Wi-Fi, and other things like Bluetooth. And if you want
longer operation, you can with some models like Dell purchase battery packs
with more cells for greater capacity, and with Dell, even additional battery
"slices" to insert/affix to increase even more. Not all models, however.

The Dell Latitude D6xx series have a media slot that you can use for a
CD/DVD or remove it and add another battery. The E6520 I'm using has a slice
battery you can connect to the docking area for additional life.

I can get over 10 hours with Wi-Fi and normal screen brightness with the
9-cell battery and the additional slice. Enough for a full day's work while
flying to Europe.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonboy13@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 10:40
Subject: Re: Is Research It really necessary?


Hello,
Google can answer just about any question if you type it into the search
box. It might not be by Google, but the results will bring up the best
results.
Just click on the first or second result and you have it!
Example:
Why is the sky blue?
http://www.sciencemadesimple.com/sky_blue.html
How do you say dance in Italian
http://translate.google.com/translate_t?hl=en&q=dance&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sl=en&tl=it&sa=X&ei=jDGYT84GxJmJAvnk7NMP&ved=0CCoQrgYwAA#

The only question I haven't been able to find an answer to is:
Can I buy a laptop without a screen

For some reason no one seems to be asking that question anywhere in the
world...
And if that's a dumb question:
What color are Dorothy's red shoes
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_color_were_Dorothy's_slippers_in_'The_Wonderful_Wizard_of_Oz'

So any research function is mitigated by Google's superior searching power.
What's the meaning of life?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meaning_of_life
4+9-100000000*2.48485921+0.000001*3^5(2*5.09876)-(5.0129)
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&biw=837&bih=443&q=4%2B9-100000000*2.48485921%2B0.000001*3+square+root+5%282*5.09876%29-%285.0129%29&oq=4%2B9-100000000*2.48485921%2B0.000001*3+square+root+5%282*5.09876%29-%285.0129%29&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_nf=1&gs_l=serp.3...20649.20838.0.21686.2.2.0.0.0.0.183.342.0j2.2.0.Q6z3iZmw3jw

Sooo, unless research it is better than Google calculator or Microsoft
calculator, I think it's totally useless. I've never found a need to use it.
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar,Thinking it's Time for a Long Vacation
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 9:44 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Is Research It really necessary?

Adrian,

Bravo! And I see that Chris Smart made you famous (or infamous) in the eyes
of FS. Amazing what tools we have out there, just waiting for someone
dedicated to discover, organize, and share. Thanks. I may have to switch my
default home page to Google instead of Yahoo.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 08:14
Subject: Is Research It really necessary?


I recently came across a list of Google search suggestions that ought to
save JAWS users from getting agitated every time Research It breaks down, as
it invariably does. Below is a list of search functions that I've just
tested. I am based in the US, so some suggestions will be different for
versions of Google in other countries. For example, we in the US will need
to add a state or country after the place name "London," but users of
Google.co.uk won't when searching for the capital. Unlike Research It,
google isn't US-centric.

1. To find the weather in a particular location, type the city's name
followed by the word "weather." Thus:

san francisco weather

Note. I avoid using uppercase when doing Google searches.

the first Google result lists today's conditions and those for the days
upcoming.

Here are the terms I entered to find out the weather in Prague, Czech
Republic:

prague czech weather

2. Time works in much the same way. Type the location followed by the word
"time" (not in quotations). Thus:

san francisco time

3. For a word's definition, type the word "definition" followed by a colon
and immediately by the word in question. Thus:

definition:arbitrary

An advantage google has is that if you misspell a word, it automatically
offers a correction.

4. For currency conversion, the crucial word is "in." Beyond that, Google is
flexible. I obtained conversions for the following search terms:

$1 in sterling

1 eur in usd

These are just two examples.

5. Google will perform math operations, thus saving you from having to open
a calculator. The article gave as an example a sine problem. For my test, I
typed the following in the search field:

(2+3)*5

Google promptly reported the correct answer, 25.

6. As for sports, the article's author is based in India, and the examples
he gave involved cricket. Through a bit of tweaking, I tested Google's
ability to produce baseball results. The terms

baseball scores

produced all of yesterday's results. It's morning here, so today's games
haven't been played.

Note. The list of results I got begins with one result from Monday, April
23. A glitch, but a tiny one.

7. I know from past experience that entering just the tracking number of a
UPS shipment in the google search field will provide the information I need,
although I add "ups" as a second term to make sure.

This list is hardly exhaustive. Other simple searches for other functions
can be interpolated from these examples.

Conclusion, and relevancy to this JAWS list: FS should divert its resources
from Research It to applications needed for the workplace.
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Soronel Haetir
 

I want to get rid of the screen for reasons of weight far more than
reasons of battery life at this point. Adding more batteries or
turning the screen down don't really solve that problem.

I am actually somewhat surprised that there doesn't seem to be a thin
battery powered computer with built-in keyboard that the manufacturer
expects to be used with an external display, which would basically be
a laptop without a screen.

Unfortunately, given how tablets seem to be the push of the future I
do not expect portable accessibility to improve over the near to
medium term.

On 4/25/12, Farfar, Thinking it's Time for a Long Vacation
<dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Brandon,

w/r your question on buying a laptop without a screen...if you are posing a

serious question and not just toying with Google, it occurs to me that a
laptop without a screen would be one without a cover. If you're wanting to
cut down on power consumption you do have the alternative to turn down the
brightness, turn off Wi-Fi, and other things like Bluetooth. And if you want

longer operation, you can with some models like Dell purchase battery packs

with more cells for greater capacity, and with Dell, even additional battery

"slices" to insert/affix to increase even more. Not all models, however.

The Dell Latitude D6xx series have a media slot that you can use for a
CD/DVD or remove it and add another battery. The E6520 I'm using has a slice

battery you can connect to the docking area for additional life.

I can get over 10 hours with Wi-Fi and normal screen brightness with the
9-cell battery and the additional slice. Enough for a full day's work while

flying to Europe.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonboy13@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 10:40
Subject: Re: Is Research It really necessary?


Hello,
Google can answer just about any question if you type it into the search
box. It might not be by Google, but the results will bring up the best
results.
Just click on the first or second result and you have it!
Example:
Why is the sky blue?
http://www.sciencemadesimple.com/sky_blue.html
How do you say dance in Italian
http://translate.google.com/translate_t?hl=en&q=dance&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sl=en&tl=it&sa=X&ei=jDGYT84GxJmJAvnk7NMP&ved=0CCoQrgYwAA#

The only question I haven't been able to find an answer to is:
Can I buy a laptop without a screen

For some reason no one seems to be asking that question anywhere in the
world...
And if that's a dumb question:
What color are Dorothy's red shoes
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_color_were_Dorothy's_slippers_in_'The_Wonderful_Wizard_of_Oz'

So any research function is mitigated by Google's superior searching power.
What's the meaning of life?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meaning_of_life
4+9-100000000*2.48485921+0.000001*3^5(2*5.09876)-(5.0129)
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&biw=837&bih=443&q=4%2B9-100000000*2.48485921%2B0.000001*3+square+root+5%282*5.09876%29-%285.0129%29&oq=4%2B9-100000000*2.48485921%2B0.000001*3+square+root+5%282*5.09876%29-%285.0129%29&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_nf=1&gs_l=serp.3...20649.20838.0.21686.2.2.0.0.0.0.183.342.0j2.2.0.Q6z3iZmw3jw

Sooo, unless research it is better than Google calculator or Microsoft
calculator, I think it's totally useless. I've never found a need to use
it.
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar,Thinking it's Time for a Long Vacation
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 9:44 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Is Research It really necessary?

Adrian,

Bravo! And I see that Chris Smart made you famous (or infamous) in the
eyes
of FS. Amazing what tools we have out there, just waiting for someone
dedicated to discover, organize, and share. Thanks. I may have to switch my
default home page to Google instead of Yahoo.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 08:14
Subject: Is Research It really necessary?


I recently came across a list of Google search suggestions that ought to
save JAWS users from getting agitated every time Research It breaks down,
as
it invariably does. Below is a list of search functions that I've just
tested. I am based in the US, so some suggestions will be different for
versions of Google in other countries. For example, we in the US will need
to add a state or country after the place name "London," but users of
Google.co.uk won't when searching for the capital. Unlike Research It,
google isn't US-centric.

1. To find the weather in a particular location, type the city's name
followed by the word "weather." Thus:

san francisco weather

Note. I avoid using uppercase when doing Google searches.

the first Google result lists today's conditions and those for the days
upcoming.

Here are the terms I entered to find out the weather in Prague, Czech
Republic:

prague czech weather

2. Time works in much the same way. Type the location followed by the word
"time" (not in quotations). Thus:

san francisco time

3. For a word's definition, type the word "definition" followed by a colon
and immediately by the word in question. Thus:

definition:arbitrary

An advantage google has is that if you misspell a word, it automatically
offers a correction.

4. For currency conversion, the crucial word is "in." Beyond that, Google
is
flexible. I obtained conversions for the following search terms:

$1 in sterling

1 eur in usd

These are just two examples.

5. Google will perform math operations, thus saving you from having to open
a calculator. The article gave as an example a sine problem. For my test, I
typed the following in the search field:

(2+3)*5

Google promptly reported the correct answer, 25.

6. As for sports, the article's author is based in India, and the examples
he gave involved cricket. Through a bit of tweaking, I tested Google's
ability to produce baseball results. The terms

baseball scores

produced all of yesterday's results. It's morning here, so today's games
haven't been played.

Note. The list of results I got begins with one result from Monday, April
23. A glitch, but a tiny one.

7. I know from past experience that entering just the tracking number of a
UPS shipment in the google search field will provide the information I
need,
although I add "ups" as a second term to make sure.

This list is hardly exhaustive. Other simple searches for other functions
can be interpolated from these examples.

Conclusion, and relevancy to this JAWS list: FS should divert its resources
from Research It to applications needed for the workplace.
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Adrian Spratt
 

I wonder if any of HumanWare's products would serve Brandon's needs.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar, Thinking it's Time for a Long Vacation
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 4:00 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Is Research It really necessary?

Brandon,

w/r your question on buying a laptop without a screen...if you are posing a
serious question and not just toying with Google, it occurs to me that a
laptop without a screen would be one without a cover. If you're wanting to
cut down on power consumption you do have the alternative to turn down the
brightness, turn off Wi-Fi, and other things like Bluetooth. And if you want
longer operation, you can with some models like Dell purchase battery packs
with more cells for greater capacity, and with Dell, even additional battery
"slices" to insert/affix to increase even more. Not all models, however.

The Dell Latitude D6xx series have a media slot that you can use for a
CD/DVD or remove it and add another battery. The E6520 I'm using has a slice
battery you can connect to the docking area for additional life.

I can get over 10 hours with Wi-Fi and normal screen brightness with the
9-cell battery and the additional slice. Enough for a full day's work while
flying to Europe.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonboy13@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 10:40
Subject: Re: Is Research It really necessary?


Hello,
Google can answer just about any question if you type it into the search
box. It might not be by Google, but the results will bring up the best
results.
Just click on the first or second result and you have it!
Example:
Why is the sky blue?
http://www.sciencemadesimple.com/sky_blue.html
How do you say dance in Italian
http://translate.google.com/translate_t?hl=en&q=dance&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sl=en&tl
=it&sa=X&ei=jDGYT84GxJmJAvnk7NMP&ved=0CCoQrgYwAA#

The only question I haven't been able to find an answer to is:
Can I buy a laptop without a screen

For some reason no one seems to be asking that question anywhere in the
world...
And if that's a dumb question:
What color are Dorothy's red shoes
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_color_were_Dorothy's_slippers_in_'The_Wonderf
ul_Wizard_of_Oz'

So any research function is mitigated by Google's superior searching power.
What's the meaning of life?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meaning_of_life
4+9-100000000*2.48485921+0.000001*3^5(2*5.09876)-(5.0129)
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&biw=837&bih=443&q=4%2B9-100000000*2.4848
5921%2B0.000001*3+square+root+5%282*5.09876%29-%285.0129%29&oq=4%2B9-1000000
00*2.48485921%2B0.000001*3+square+root+5%282*5.09876%29-%285.0129%29&aq=f&aq
i=&aql=&gs_nf=1&gs_l=serp.3...20649.20838.0.21686.2.2.0.0.0.0.183.342.0j2.2.
0.Q6z3iZmw3jw

Sooo, unless research it is better than Google calculator or Microsoft
calculator, I think it's totally useless. I've never found a need to use it.
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar,Thinking it's Time for a Long Vacation
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 9:44 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Is Research It really necessary?

Adrian,

Bravo! And I see that Chris Smart made you famous (or infamous) in the eyes
of FS. Amazing what tools we have out there, just waiting for someone
dedicated to discover, organize, and share. Thanks. I may have to switch my
default home page to Google instead of Yahoo.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 08:14
Subject: Is Research It really necessary?


I recently came across a list of Google search suggestions that ought to
save JAWS users from getting agitated every time Research It breaks down, as
it invariably does. Below is a list of search functions that I've just
tested. I am based in the US, so some suggestions will be different for
versions of Google in other countries. For example, we in the US will need
to add a state or country after the place name "London," but users of
Google.co.uk won't when searching for the capital. Unlike Research It,
google isn't US-centric.

1. To find the weather in a particular location, type the city's name
followed by the word "weather." Thus:

san francisco weather

Note. I avoid using uppercase when doing Google searches.

the first Google result lists today's conditions and those for the days
upcoming.

Here are the terms I entered to find out the weather in Prague, Czech
Republic:

prague czech weather

2. Time works in much the same way. Type the location followed by the word
"time" (not in quotations). Thus:

san francisco time

3. For a word's definition, type the word "definition" followed by a colon
and immediately by the word in question. Thus:

definition:arbitrary

An advantage google has is that if you misspell a word, it automatically
offers a correction.

4. For currency conversion, the crucial word is "in." Beyond that, Google is
flexible. I obtained conversions for the following search terms:

$1 in sterling

1 eur in usd

These are just two examples.

5. Google will perform math operations, thus saving you from having to open
a calculator. The article gave as an example a sine problem. For my test, I
typed the following in the search field:

(2+3)*5

Google promptly reported the correct answer, 25.

6. As for sports, the article's author is based in India, and the examples
he gave involved cricket. Through a bit of tweaking, I tested Google's
ability to produce baseball results. The terms

baseball scores

produced all of yesterday's results. It's morning here, so today's games
haven't been played.

Note. The list of results I got begins with one result from Monday, April
23. A glitch, but a tiny one.

7. I know from past experience that entering just the tracking number of a
UPS shipment in the google search field will provide the information I need,
although I add "ups" as a second term to make sure.

This list is hardly exhaustive. Other simple searches for other functions
can be interpolated from these examples.

Conclusion, and relevancy to this JAWS list: FS should divert its resources
from Research It to applications needed for the workplace.
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Dave...
 

Soronel,

I'm skeptical that there will ever be such a machine. Point is, that the
mere fact of portability means that a sighted user will want to have some
way to see the display away from the desk, and not having one just makes
this a portable keyboard with a processor and memory -- and useless to the
majority of computer purchasers.

Now if there was a transmitter built in that would convert any display or
glass surface within 5 feet of the device into a display, well then we have
something phenomenal. Just think -- I'm standing near a storefront, and want
to look up something. I face the window glass, and the glass becomes opaque
enough to display what the handheld keyboard/computer is showing. Hey, a
person wearing eyeglasses could have the image showing on the inside of
their lens. What a concept, and that makes sense now.

Not very useful to us, but perhaps the next logical step in portable
computers. The cloud connects to the device and the image shows on a nearby
surface.

Apple, are you listening? Steve Jobs is talking to you from the cloud, and
saying "Yes, Farfar has a great idea!"

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit

----- Original Message -----
From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 13:36
Subject: Re: Is Research It really necessary?


I want to get rid of the screen for reasons of weight far more than
reasons of battery life at this point. Adding more batteries or
turning the screen down don't really solve that problem.

I am actually somewhat surprised that there doesn't seem to be a thin
battery powered computer with built-in keyboard that the manufacturer
expects to be used with an external display, which would basically be
a laptop without a screen.

Unfortunately, given how tablets seem to be the push of the future I
do not expect portable accessibility to improve over the near to
medium term.

On 4/25/12, Farfar, Thinking it's Time for a Long Vacation
<dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Brandon,

w/r your question on buying a laptop without a screen...if you are posing
a

serious question and not just toying with Google, it occurs to me that a
laptop without a screen would be one without a cover. If you're wanting to
cut down on power consumption you do have the alternative to turn down the
brightness, turn off Wi-Fi, and other things like Bluetooth. And if you
want

longer operation, you can with some models like Dell purchase battery
packs

with more cells for greater capacity, and with Dell, even additional
battery

"slices" to insert/affix to increase even more. Not all models, however.

The Dell Latitude D6xx series have a media slot that you can use for a
CD/DVD or remove it and add another battery. The E6520 I'm using has a
slice

battery you can connect to the docking area for additional life.

I can get over 10 hours with Wi-Fi and normal screen brightness with the
9-cell battery and the additional slice. Enough for a full day's work
while

flying to Europe.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonboy13@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 10:40
Subject: Re: Is Research It really necessary?


Hello,
Google can answer just about any question if you type it into the search
box. It might not be by Google, but the results will bring up the best
results.
Just click on the first or second result and you have it!
Example:
Why is the sky blue?
http://www.sciencemadesimple.com/sky_blue.html
How do you say dance in Italian
http://translate.google.com/translate_t?hl=en&q=dance&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sl=en&tl=it&sa=X&ei=jDGYT84GxJmJAvnk7NMP&ved=0CCoQrgYwAA#

The only question I haven't been able to find an answer to is:
Can I buy a laptop without a screen

For some reason no one seems to be asking that question anywhere in the
world...
And if that's a dumb question:
What color are Dorothy's red shoes
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_color_were_Dorothy's_slippers_in_'The_Wonderful_Wizard_of_Oz'

So any research function is mitigated by Google's superior searching
power.
What's the meaning of life?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meaning_of_life
4+9-100000000*2.48485921+0.000001*3^5(2*5.09876)-(5.0129)
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&biw=837&bih=443&q=4%2B9-100000000*2.48485921%2B0.000001*3+square+root+5%282*5.09876%29-%285.0129%29&oq=4%2B9-100000000*2.48485921%2B0.000001*3+square+root+5%282*5.09876%29-%285.0129%29&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_nf=1&gs_l=serp.3...20649.20838.0.21686.2.2.0.0.0.0.183.342.0j2.2.0.Q6z3iZmw3jw

Sooo, unless research it is better than Google calculator or Microsoft
calculator, I think it's totally useless. I've never found a need to use
it.
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar,Thinking it's Time for a Long Vacation
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 9:44 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Is Research It really necessary?

Adrian,

Bravo! And I see that Chris Smart made you famous (or infamous) in the
eyes
of FS. Amazing what tools we have out there, just waiting for someone
dedicated to discover, organize, and share. Thanks. I may have to switch
my
default home page to Google instead of Yahoo.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 08:14
Subject: Is Research It really necessary?


I recently came across a list of Google search suggestions that ought to
save JAWS users from getting agitated every time Research It breaks down,
as
it invariably does. Below is a list of search functions that I've just
tested. I am based in the US, so some suggestions will be different for
versions of Google in other countries. For example, we in the US will need
to add a state or country after the place name "London," but users of
Google.co.uk won't when searching for the capital. Unlike Research It,
google isn't US-centric.

1. To find the weather in a particular location, type the city's name
followed by the word "weather." Thus:

san francisco weather

Note. I avoid using uppercase when doing Google searches.

the first Google result lists today's conditions and those for the days
upcoming.

Here are the terms I entered to find out the weather in Prague, Czech
Republic:

prague czech weather

2. Time works in much the same way. Type the location followed by the word
"time" (not in quotations). Thus:

san francisco time

3. For a word's definition, type the word "definition" followed by a colon
and immediately by the word in question. Thus:

definition:arbitrary

An advantage google has is that if you misspell a word, it automatically
offers a correction.

4. For currency conversion, the crucial word is "in." Beyond that, Google
is
flexible. I obtained conversions for the following search terms:

$1 in sterling

1 eur in usd

These are just two examples.

5. Google will perform math operations, thus saving you from having to
open
a calculator. The article gave as an example a sine problem. For my test,
I
typed the following in the search field:

(2+3)*5

Google promptly reported the correct answer, 25.

6. As for sports, the article's author is based in India, and the examples
he gave involved cricket. Through a bit of tweaking, I tested Google's
ability to produce baseball results. The terms

baseball scores

produced all of yesterday's results. It's morning here, so today's games
haven't been played.

Note. The list of results I got begins with one result from Monday, April
23. A glitch, but a tiny one.

7. I know from past experience that entering just the tracking number of a
UPS shipment in the google search field will provide the information I
need,
although I add "ups" as a second term to make sure.

This list is hardly exhaustive. Other simple searches for other functions
can be interpolated from these examples.

Conclusion, and relevancy to this JAWS list: FS should divert its
resources
from Research It to applications needed for the workplace.
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Hi Dave.

Actually, don't Google have glasses for sale that display things now? I heard something about that on the news recently.
That's all we need, another reason for distracted people to not see us coming on the sidewalk. *LOL*

But I agree with you. Go to Dell or Compaq and say "hey, you really should make something with no visual display". Good luck with that.

Wasn't there a machine like this built for blind folks back in the 1990's, called David? I seem to remember something like that existing at one time.

If you ask me, we've never had more access than we do now. Don't want a blind-specific note taker from Freedom Scientific, HumanWare, Hims, etc. you can use an iPhone or iPad right out of the box. Connect a Blutooth keyboard to an iPhone and you have a heck of a lot in your pocket, not to mention Blutooth braille displays.
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Not to mention those times where you're working on an important document and
for whatever reason Jaws isn't responding or there's some sort of other
issue with the computer where Narrator or NVDA isn't goiing to help and just
randomly closing windows and pressing buttons is not what you want to do.
My old Toshiba laptop's screen gave out about 2 weeks before I was able to
get my new Windows 7 system and instead of forking out the $200.00 or so I
was quoted to replace the screen, I went without the screen. It worked fine
since I have no use for it, but there were times where my sighted wife was
pressed up against the laptop screen with a flash light trying to make out
whatever error message or some other diagnostic text she could. There were
some stressful times in deed and even though I in theory didn't need the
screen, it sure is helpful to have one for just those occasions.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar, Thinking it's Time for a Long Vacation
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 1:48 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Is Research It really necessary?

Soronel,

I'm skeptical that there will ever be such a machine. Point is, that the
mere fact of portability means that a sighted user will want to have some
way to see the display away from the desk, and not having one just makes
this a portable keyboard with a processor and memory -- and useless to the
majority of computer purchasers.

Now if there was a transmitter built in that would convert any display or
glass surface within 5 feet of the device into a display, well then we have
something phenomenal. Just think -- I'm standing near a storefront, and want
to look up something. I face the window glass, and the glass becomes opaque
enough to display what the handheld keyboard/computer is showing. Hey, a
person wearing eyeglasses could have the image showing on the inside of
their lens. What a concept, and that makes sense now.

Not very useful to us, but perhaps the next logical step in portable
computers. The cloud connects to the device and the image shows on a nearby
surface.

Apple, are you listening? Steve Jobs is talking to you from the cloud, and
saying "Yes, Farfar has a great idea!"

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 13:36
Subject: Re: Is Research It really necessary?


I want to get rid of the screen for reasons of weight far more than
reasons of battery life at this point. Adding more batteries or
turning the screen down don't really solve that problem.

I am actually somewhat surprised that there doesn't seem to be a thin
battery powered computer with built-in keyboard that the manufacturer
expects to be used with an external display, which would basically be
a laptop without a screen.

Unfortunately, given how tablets seem to be the push of the future I
do not expect portable accessibility to improve over the near to
medium term.

On 4/25/12, Farfar, Thinking it's Time for a Long Vacation
<dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Brandon,

w/r your question on buying a laptop without a screen...if you are posing
a

serious question and not just toying with Google, it occurs to me that a
laptop without a screen would be one without a cover. If you're wanting to
cut down on power consumption you do have the alternative to turn down the
brightness, turn off Wi-Fi, and other things like Bluetooth. And if you
want

longer operation, you can with some models like Dell purchase battery
packs

with more cells for greater capacity, and with Dell, even additional
battery

"slices" to insert/affix to increase even more. Not all models, however.

The Dell Latitude D6xx series have a media slot that you can use for a
CD/DVD or remove it and add another battery. The E6520 I'm using has a
slice

battery you can connect to the docking area for additional life.

I can get over 10 hours with Wi-Fi and normal screen brightness with the
9-cell battery and the additional slice. Enough for a full day's work
while

flying to Europe.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonboy13@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 10:40
Subject: Re: Is Research It really necessary?


Hello,
Google can answer just about any question if you type it into the search
box. It might not be by Google, but the results will bring up the best
results.
Just click on the first or second result and you have it!
Example:
Why is the sky blue?
http://www.sciencemadesimple.com/sky_blue.html
How do you say dance in Italian
http://translate.google.com/translate_t?hl=en&q=dance&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sl=en&tl
=it&sa=X&ei=jDGYT84GxJmJAvnk7NMP&ved=0CCoQrgYwAA#

The only question I haven't been able to find an answer to is:
Can I buy a laptop without a screen

For some reason no one seems to be asking that question anywhere in the
world...
And if that's a dumb question:
What color are Dorothy's red shoes
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_color_were_Dorothy's_slippers_in_'The_Wonderf
ul_Wizard_of_Oz'

So any research function is mitigated by Google's superior searching
power.
What's the meaning of life?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meaning_of_life
4+9-100000000*2.48485921+0.000001*3^5(2*5.09876)-(5.0129)
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&biw=837&bih=443&q=4%2B9-100000000*2.4848
5921%2B0.000001*3+square+root+5%282*5.09876%29-%285.0129%29&oq=4%2B9-1000000
00*2.48485921%2B0.000001*3+square+root+5%282*5.09876%29-%285.0129%29&aq=f&aq
i=&aql=&gs_nf=1&gs_l=serp.3...20649.20838.0.21686.2.2.0.0.0.0.183.342.0j2.2.
0.Q6z3iZmw3jw

Sooo, unless research it is better than Google calculator or Microsoft
calculator, I think it's totally useless. I've never found a need to use
it.
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar,Thinking it's Time for a Long Vacation
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 9:44 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Is Research It really necessary?

Adrian,

Bravo! And I see that Chris Smart made you famous (or infamous) in the
eyes
of FS. Amazing what tools we have out there, just waiting for someone
dedicated to discover, organize, and share. Thanks. I may have to switch
my
default home page to Google instead of Yahoo.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 08:14
Subject: Is Research It really necessary?


I recently came across a list of Google search suggestions that ought to
save JAWS users from getting agitated every time Research It breaks down,
as
it invariably does. Below is a list of search functions that I've just
tested. I am based in the US, so some suggestions will be different for
versions of Google in other countries. For example, we in the US will need
to add a state or country after the place name "London," but users of
Google.co.uk won't when searching for the capital. Unlike Research It,
google isn't US-centric.

1. To find the weather in a particular location, type the city's name
followed by the word "weather." Thus:

san francisco weather

Note. I avoid using uppercase when doing Google searches.

the first Google result lists today's conditions and those for the days
upcoming.

Here are the terms I entered to find out the weather in Prague, Czech
Republic:

prague czech weather

2. Time works in much the same way. Type the location followed by the word
"time" (not in quotations). Thus:

san francisco time

3. For a word's definition, type the word "definition" followed by a colon
and immediately by the word in question. Thus:

definition:arbitrary

An advantage google has is that if you misspell a word, it automatically
offers a correction.

4. For currency conversion, the crucial word is "in." Beyond that, Google
is
flexible. I obtained conversions for the following search terms:

$1 in sterling

1 eur in usd

These are just two examples.

5. Google will perform math operations, thus saving you from having to
open
a calculator. The article gave as an example a sine problem. For my test,
I
typed the following in the search field:

(2+3)*5

Google promptly reported the correct answer, 25.

6. As for sports, the article's author is based in India, and the examples
he gave involved cricket. Through a bit of tweaking, I tested Google's
ability to produce baseball results. The terms

baseball scores

produced all of yesterday's results. It's morning here, so today's games
haven't been played.

Note. The list of results I got begins with one result from Monday, April
23. A glitch, but a tiny one.

7. I know from past experience that entering just the tracking number of a
UPS shipment in the google search field will provide the information I
need,
although I add "ups" as a second term to make sure.

This list is hardly exhaustive. Other simple searches for other functions
can be interpolated from these examples.

Conclusion, and relevancy to this JAWS list: FS should divert its
resources
from Research It to applications needed for the workplace.
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Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonboy13@...>
 

Hello,
The Human wear products and FS products are not laptops by any stretch of the imagination.
Perhaps when you can download programs and drivers on the cloud then run them on those note-takers you can call them Laptops. But frankly I only get a fraction of the functionality I get from a laptop on any Note taker. Perhaps a phone will be better, but again, it only has 2 gigs of ram if that and I really like my speed.
My screen costs a huge amount, adds to the weight and requires all kinds of stuff that I just don't want to give.
I once gave a speech on how useless and how many negative things happen when you have a computer screen, including the fact that so many people get tendinitis from using the mouse and not moving their hands around the keyboard like we do.
The only rebuttal sighted people were able to come up with was: "But I like my screen..."
If I was Spock I'd say there was a serious problem with putting screens on every computer!
And it's because of screens that we don't have as much accessibility. The screen is the source of most computer evils! :O :P
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs

-----Original Message-----
From: Cristobal
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 2:00 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Is Research It really necessary?

Not to mention those times where you're working on an important document and
for whatever reason Jaws isn't responding or there's some sort of other
issue with the computer where Narrator or NVDA isn't goiing to help and just
randomly closing windows and pressing buttons is not what you want to do.
My old Toshiba laptop's screen gave out about 2 weeks before I was able to
get my new Windows 7 system and instead of forking out the $200.00 or so I
was quoted to replace the screen, I went without the screen. It worked fine
since I have no use for it, but there were times where my sighted wife was
pressed up against the laptop screen with a flash light trying to make out
whatever error message or some other diagnostic text she could. There were
some stressful times in deed and even though I in theory didn't need the
screen, it sure is helpful to have one for just those occasions.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar, Thinking it's Time for a Long Vacation
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 1:48 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Is Research It really necessary?

Soronel,

I'm skeptical that there will ever be such a machine. Point is, that the
mere fact of portability means that a sighted user will want to have some
way to see the display away from the desk, and not having one just makes
this a portable keyboard with a processor and memory -- and useless to the
majority of computer purchasers.

Now if there was a transmitter built in that would convert any display or
glass surface within 5 feet of the device into a display, well then we have
something phenomenal. Just think -- I'm standing near a storefront, and want
to look up something. I face the window glass, and the glass becomes opaque
enough to display what the handheld keyboard/computer is showing. Hey, a
person wearing eyeglasses could have the image showing on the inside of
their lens. What a concept, and that makes sense now.

Not very useful to us, but perhaps the next logical step in portable
computers. The cloud connects to the device and the image shows on a nearby
surface.

Apple, are you listening? Steve Jobs is talking to you from the cloud, and
saying "Yes, Farfar has a great idea!"

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 13:36
Subject: Re: Is Research It really necessary?


I want to get rid of the screen for reasons of weight far more than
reasons of battery life at this point. Adding more batteries or
turning the screen down don't really solve that problem.

I am actually somewhat surprised that there doesn't seem to be a thin
battery powered computer with built-in keyboard that the manufacturer
expects to be used with an external display, which would basically be
a laptop without a screen.

Unfortunately, given how tablets seem to be the push of the future I
do not expect portable accessibility to improve over the near to
medium term.

On 4/25/12, Farfar, Thinking it's Time for a Long Vacation
<dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Brandon,

w/r your question on buying a laptop without a screen...if you are posing
a

serious question and not just toying with Google, it occurs to me that a
laptop without a screen would be one without a cover. If you're wanting to
cut down on power consumption you do have the alternative to turn down the
brightness, turn off Wi-Fi, and other things like Bluetooth. And if you
want

longer operation, you can with some models like Dell purchase battery
packs

with more cells for greater capacity, and with Dell, even additional
battery

"slices" to insert/affix to increase even more. Not all models, however.

The Dell Latitude D6xx series have a media slot that you can use for a
CD/DVD or remove it and add another battery. The E6520 I'm using has a
slice

battery you can connect to the docking area for additional life.

I can get over 10 hours with Wi-Fi and normal screen brightness with the
9-cell battery and the additional slice. Enough for a full day's work
while

flying to Europe.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonboy13@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 10:40
Subject: Re: Is Research It really necessary?


Hello,
Google can answer just about any question if you type it into the search
box. It might not be by Google, but the results will bring up the best
results.
Just click on the first or second result and you have it!
Example:
Why is the sky blue?
http://www.sciencemadesimple.com/sky_blue.html
How do you say dance in Italian
http://translate.google.com/translate_t?hl=en&q=dance&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sl=en&tl
=it&sa=X&ei=jDGYT84GxJmJAvnk7NMP&ved=0CCoQrgYwAA#

The only question I haven't been able to find an answer to is:
Can I buy a laptop without a screen

For some reason no one seems to be asking that question anywhere in the
world...
And if that's a dumb question:
What color are Dorothy's red shoes
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_color_were_Dorothy's_slippers_in_'The_Wonderf
ul_Wizard_of_Oz'

So any research function is mitigated by Google's superior searching
power.
What's the meaning of life?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meaning_of_life
4+9-100000000*2.48485921+0.000001*3^5(2*5.09876)-(5.0129)
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&biw=837&bih=443&q=4%2B9-100000000*2.4848
5921%2B0.000001*3+square+root+5%282*5.09876%29-%285.0129%29&oq=4%2B9-1000000
00*2.48485921%2B0.000001*3+square+root+5%282*5.09876%29-%285.0129%29&aq=f&aq
i=&aql=&gs_nf=1&gs_l=serp.3...20649.20838.0.21686.2.2.0.0.0.0.183.342.0j2.2.
0.Q6z3iZmw3jw

Sooo, unless research it is better than Google calculator or Microsoft
calculator, I think it's totally useless. I've never found a need to use
it.
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar,Thinking it's Time for a Long Vacation
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 9:44 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Is Research It really necessary?

Adrian,

Bravo! And I see that Chris Smart made you famous (or infamous) in the
eyes
of FS. Amazing what tools we have out there, just waiting for someone
dedicated to discover, organize, and share. Thanks. I may have to switch
my
default home page to Google instead of Yahoo.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 08:14
Subject: Is Research It really necessary?


I recently came across a list of Google search suggestions that ought to
save JAWS users from getting agitated every time Research It breaks down,
as
it invariably does. Below is a list of search functions that I've just
tested. I am based in the US, so some suggestions will be different for
versions of Google in other countries. For example, we in the US will need
to add a state or country after the place name "London," but users of
Google.co.uk won't when searching for the capital. Unlike Research It,
google isn't US-centric.

1. To find the weather in a particular location, type the city's name
followed by the word "weather." Thus:

san francisco weather

Note. I avoid using uppercase when doing Google searches.

the first Google result lists today's conditions and those for the days
upcoming.

Here are the terms I entered to find out the weather in Prague, Czech
Republic:

prague czech weather

2. Time works in much the same way. Type the location followed by the word
"time" (not in quotations). Thus:

san francisco time

3. For a word's definition, type the word "definition" followed by a colon
and immediately by the word in question. Thus:

definition:arbitrary

An advantage google has is that if you misspell a word, it automatically
offers a correction.

4. For currency conversion, the crucial word is "in." Beyond that, Google
is
flexible. I obtained conversions for the following search terms:

$1 in sterling

1 eur in usd

These are just two examples.

5. Google will perform math operations, thus saving you from having to
open
a calculator. The article gave as an example a sine problem. For my test,
I
typed the following in the search field:

(2+3)*5

Google promptly reported the correct answer, 25.

6. As for sports, the article's author is based in India, and the examples
he gave involved cricket. Through a bit of tweaking, I tested Google's
ability to produce baseball results. The terms

baseball scores

produced all of yesterday's results. It's morning here, so today's games
haven't been played.

Note. The list of results I got begins with one result from Monday, April
23. A glitch, but a tiny one.

7. I know from past experience that entering just the tracking number of a
UPS shipment in the google search field will provide the information I
need,
although I add "ups" as a second term to make sure.

This list is hardly exhaustive. Other simple searches for other functions
can be interpolated from these examples.

Conclusion, and relevancy to this JAWS list: FS should divert its
resources
from Research It to applications needed for the workplace.
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At 05:52 PM 4/25/2012, Brandon Said:

The only rebuttal sighted people were able to come up with was: "But I like my screen..."
And you like your speech output. Do sighted people need it? Not really. I honestly don't know what your point is here.

If I was Spock I'd say there was a serious problem with putting screens on every computer!
You're part of a small minority who may not need a screen most of the time. But lucky for the sighted majority, you aren't making decisions that affect computing trends.

And it's because of screens that we don't have as much accessibility. The screen is the source of most computer evils! :O :P
No, inattention to or ignorance of accessibility concerns on the part of software developers cause our problems. Sorry for a bad pun, but I think your thinking on this is miopic.


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Hey Brandon, why not develop your screenless laptop? The parts all exist out there and are used in the mainstream laptops.. just find someone to build them for you - maybe call it the BlindBook.

I'm not sure how much money we will save by not including the display, but who knows. You may have a niche market there, blind folks who want a laptop but who have some aversion to screens.

I'm guessing you'd only save maybe $50 a unit removing the display and that this isn't an issue for most of us, but I might be totally wrong.

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Build Or Create Your Own Laptop Or Notebook Computer:
http://computershopper.com/feature/build-your-own-laptop

You'll need to find a case that doesn't have two halves, one half being for the traditional display, but heck, you can get those manufactured overseas once you have some financial backing for this project, right?


At 07:20 PM 4/25/2012, you wrote:
Hey Brandon, why not develop your screenless laptop? The parts all exist out there and are used in the mainstream laptops.. just find someone to build them for you - maybe call it the BlindBook.

I'm not sure how much money we will save by not including the display, but who knows. You may have a niche market there, blind folks who want a laptop but who have some aversion to screens.

I'm guessing you'd only save maybe $50 a unit removing the display and that this isn't an issue for most of us, but I might be totally wrong.

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Brandon,

I'm afraid that you sound like you have tunnel vision. Why would anyone with
eyesight give up having a screen? It's impractical. That's the most
efficient method they have for receiving information from the computer, via
their eyes.

Constraining them to a non-visual output format similar to what we use is
just butting your head against common sense.

Of course I wouldn't disagree that a laptop without a display would be
lighter weight, less energy-consuming, and simpler, but the market for that
device would be prohibitively small.

Why not just purchase a cheap laptop yourself and remove the cover/display?
I'm sure they can be removed somehow.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonboy13@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 14:52
Subject: Re: Is Research It really necessary?


Hello,
The Human wear products and FS products are not laptops by any stretch of
the imagination.
Perhaps when you can download programs and drivers on the cloud then run
them on those note-takers you can call them Laptops. But frankly I only get
a fraction of the functionality I get from a laptop on any Note taker.
Perhaps a phone will be better, but again, it only has 2 gigs of ram if that
and I really like my speed.
My screen costs a huge amount, adds to the weight and requires all kinds of
stuff that I just don't want to give.
I once gave a speech on how useless and how many negative things happen when
you have a computer screen, including the fact that so many people get
tendinitis from using the mouse and not moving their hands around the
keyboard like we do.
The only rebuttal sighted people were able to come up with was: "But I like
my screen..."
If I was Spock I'd say there was a serious problem with putting screens on
every computer!
And it's because of screens that we don't have as much accessibility. The
screen is the source of most computer evils! :O :P
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Cristobal
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 2:00 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Is Research It really necessary?

Not to mention those times where you're working on an important document and
for whatever reason Jaws isn't responding or there's some sort of other
issue with the computer where Narrator or NVDA isn't goiing to help and just
randomly closing windows and pressing buttons is not what you want to do.
My old Toshiba laptop's screen gave out about 2 weeks before I was able to
get my new Windows 7 system and instead of forking out the $200.00 or so I
was quoted to replace the screen, I went without the screen. It worked fine
since I have no use for it, but there were times where my sighted wife was
pressed up against the laptop screen with a flash light trying to make out
whatever error message or some other diagnostic text she could. There were
some stressful times in deed and even though I in theory didn't need the
screen, it sure is helpful to have one for just those occasions.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar, Thinking it's Time for a Long Vacation
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 1:48 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Is Research It really necessary?

Soronel,

I'm skeptical that there will ever be such a machine. Point is, that the
mere fact of portability means that a sighted user will want to have some
way to see the display away from the desk, and not having one just makes
this a portable keyboard with a processor and memory -- and useless to the
majority of computer purchasers.

Now if there was a transmitter built in that would convert any display or
glass surface within 5 feet of the device into a display, well then we have
something phenomenal. Just think -- I'm standing near a storefront, and want
to look up something. I face the window glass, and the glass becomes opaque
enough to display what the handheld keyboard/computer is showing. Hey, a
person wearing eyeglasses could have the image showing on the inside of
their lens. What a concept, and that makes sense now.

Not very useful to us, but perhaps the next logical step in portable
computers. The cloud connects to the device and the image shows on a nearby
surface.

Apple, are you listening? Steve Jobs is talking to you from the cloud, and
saying "Yes, Farfar has a great idea!"

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 13:36
Subject: Re: Is Research It really necessary?


I want to get rid of the screen for reasons of weight far more than
reasons of battery life at this point. Adding more batteries or
turning the screen down don't really solve that problem.

I am actually somewhat surprised that there doesn't seem to be a thin
battery powered computer with built-in keyboard that the manufacturer
expects to be used with an external display, which would basically be
a laptop without a screen.

Unfortunately, given how tablets seem to be the push of the future I
do not expect portable accessibility to improve over the near to
medium term.

On 4/25/12, Farfar, Thinking it's Time for a Long Vacation
<dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Brandon,

w/r your question on buying a laptop without a screen...if you are posing
a

serious question and not just toying with Google, it occurs to me that a
laptop without a screen would be one without a cover. If you're wanting to
cut down on power consumption you do have the alternative to turn down the
brightness, turn off Wi-Fi, and other things like Bluetooth. And if you
want

longer operation, you can with some models like Dell purchase battery
packs

with more cells for greater capacity, and with Dell, even additional
battery

"slices" to insert/affix to increase even more. Not all models, however.

The Dell Latitude D6xx series have a media slot that you can use for a
CD/DVD or remove it and add another battery. The E6520 I'm using has a
slice

battery you can connect to the docking area for additional life.

I can get over 10 hours with Wi-Fi and normal screen brightness with the
9-cell battery and the additional slice. Enough for a full day's work
while

flying to Europe.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


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From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonboy13@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 10:40
Subject: Re: Is Research It really necessary?


Hello,
Google can answer just about any question if you type it into the search
box. It might not be by Google, but the results will bring up the best
results.
Just click on the first or second result and you have it!
Example:
Why is the sky blue?
http://www.sciencemadesimple.com/sky_blue.html
How do you say dance in Italian
http://translate.google.com/translate_t?hl=en&q=dance&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sl=en&tl
=it&sa=X&ei=jDGYT84GxJmJAvnk7NMP&ved=0CCoQrgYwAA#

The only question I haven't been able to find an answer to is:
Can I buy a laptop without a screen

For some reason no one seems to be asking that question anywhere in the
world...
And if that's a dumb question:
What color are Dorothy's red shoes
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_color_were_Dorothy's_slippers_in_'The_Wonderf
ul_Wizard_of_Oz'

So any research function is mitigated by Google's superior searching
power.
What's the meaning of life?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meaning_of_life
4+9-100000000*2.48485921+0.000001*3^5(2*5.09876)-(5.0129)
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&biw=837&bih=443&q=4%2B9-100000000*2.4848
5921%2B0.000001*3+square+root+5%282*5.09876%29-%285.0129%29&oq=4%2B9-1000000
00*2.48485921%2B0.000001*3+square+root+5%282*5.09876%29-%285.0129%29&aq=f&aq
i=&aql=&gs_nf=1&gs_l=serp.3...20649.20838.0.21686.2.2.0.0.0.0.183.342.0j2.2.
0.Q6z3iZmw3jw

Sooo, unless research it is better than Google calculator or Microsoft
calculator, I think it's totally useless. I've never found a need to use
it.
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar,Thinking it's Time for a Long Vacation
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 9:44 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Is Research It really necessary?

Adrian,

Bravo! And I see that Chris Smart made you famous (or infamous) in the
eyes
of FS. Amazing what tools we have out there, just waiting for someone
dedicated to discover, organize, and share. Thanks. I may have to switch
my
default home page to Google instead of Yahoo.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 08:14
Subject: Is Research It really necessary?


I recently came across a list of Google search suggestions that ought to
save JAWS users from getting agitated every time Research It breaks down,
as
it invariably does. Below is a list of search functions that I've just
tested. I am based in the US, so some suggestions will be different for
versions of Google in other countries. For example, we in the US will need
to add a state or country after the place name "London," but users of
Google.co.uk won't when searching for the capital. Unlike Research It,
google isn't US-centric.

1. To find the weather in a particular location, type the city's name
followed by the word "weather." Thus:

san francisco weather

Note. I avoid using uppercase when doing Google searches.

the first Google result lists today's conditions and those for the days
upcoming.

Here are the terms I entered to find out the weather in Prague, Czech
Republic:

prague czech weather

2. Time works in much the same way. Type the location followed by the word
"time" (not in quotations). Thus:

san francisco time

3. For a word's definition, type the word "definition" followed by a colon
and immediately by the word in question. Thus:

definition:arbitrary

An advantage google has is that if you misspell a word, it automatically
offers a correction.

4. For currency conversion, the crucial word is "in." Beyond that, Google
is
flexible. I obtained conversions for the following search terms:

$1 in sterling

1 eur in usd

These are just two examples.

5. Google will perform math operations, thus saving you from having to
open
a calculator. The article gave as an example a sine problem. For my test,
I
typed the following in the search field:

(2+3)*5

Google promptly reported the correct answer, 25.

6. As for sports, the article's author is based in India, and the examples
he gave involved cricket. Through a bit of tweaking, I tested Google's
ability to produce baseball results. The terms

baseball scores

produced all of yesterday's results. It's morning here, so today's games
haven't been played.

Note. The list of results I got begins with one result from Monday, April
23. A glitch, but a tiny one.

7. I know from past experience that entering just the tracking number of a
UPS shipment in the google search field will provide the information I
need,
although I add "ups" as a second term to make sure.

This list is hardly exhaustive. Other simple searches for other functions
can be interpolated from these examples.

Conclusion, and relevancy to this JAWS list: FS should divert its
resources
from Research It to applications needed for the workplace.
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