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64 v. 32 Bit Computers for Peachtree Accounting
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Richard B. McDonald
Hi!
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just to chime-in here, there is no requirement for a 64-bit system for a smooth operation of Peachtree Complete Accounting. In fact, the vast majority of testing has been on 32-bit systems. That said, as noted below, 64-bit is far faster. One ought to note that even now the most resource intensive applications come in 64-bit versions e.g., (Windows 7, JAWS, Internet Explorer). Whenever possible, I always go for the 64-bit version. RAM, is, however, the key ingredient for everything; is it not? Indeed, I believe Microsoft itself strongly recommends at least six gigabytes of RAM just to satisfy Windows 7's needs. Anyway, Peachtree works great on a 32-bit machine; but if a user has less than six gigabytes of RAM it will be slow. All the best, Richard
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of epierce@surewest.net Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 10:00 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: No, Thanks -- Live, Free Telephone Helpfor setting-up Peachtree Complete Accounting I would encourage you to lobby them to get 64 bit Windows 7 for you, especially if you need to run something beastly like Peachtree. There are some disadvantages to a 64 bit OS. 64 bit drivers for older peripherals such as a printers/scanners can be harder to find than 32 bit drivers. Some legacy software might run better in 32 bit "compatibility" mode. If you do not have to worry about old legacy software or old peripherals, 64 bit and >= 6GB RAM is probably an excellent choice for people seeking performance improvements. At some point in the future 32 bit software will be obsolete, just as 16 bit and 8 bit software is now almost completely obsolete. If I remember correctly, Windows Server 2008 does not have a 32 bit version. ---- Original message ---- Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 09:43:48 -0700_______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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epierce@...
Microsoft does not require 6GB for Windows 7. They might recommend it for demanding applications, as they should.
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For sighted users on medium powered CPUs, the best performance increases I've seen are from using a nice video card on sale for < $125 and 6GB on the 64 bit versions of Windows 7. A registry cleaner and aggressive disk defragmenter will keep the inevitable Windows performance slowdowns somewhat manageable. After training on VAX/VMS mimicomputers, I started working in IT with: Oracle 5 server on Netware 2.x. The single CPU server (286?) was probably 1% of today's standard laptop in power, the RAM requirements for Oracle were, for that time, very high: 64KB. Yes, KB. Not MB. Not GB. Spacious hard drives were 5MB. Not GB. I think the software was 8bit, but it might have been 16bit. Microsoft's operating system architecture is appallingly bad in many ways, but somewhat better than it used to be. Best wishes and good luck with your business.
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Dave...
Richard,
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I usually don't get into an on-line disagreement, but I sense a lot of Marketing Hoo-hah going on here and believe me I know all about that in my 20+ years in Sales and Marketing. You write: ...RAM, is, however, the key ingredient for everything; is it not? Indeed, I believe Microsoft itself strongly recommends at least six gigabytes of RAM just to satisfy Windows 7's needs. You use words like "I believe" and "strongly suggests", which ring alarm bells in my cynical head. I'd like you to cite just where MS says this. For a 32-bit operating system Windows 7 Professional, 4 G of Ram is perfectly adequate and I am satisfied with the performance over XP Pro. I know that Peachtree + JAWS is happier on a system with 8 G of RAM and 64-bit operation, as it was surely very unhappy with my 32-bit 4G system. All I'm saying is that you need to put up front exactly what the Peachtree + JAWS combination requires and let it go at that. Let the users and buyers decide if they want to invest in that hardware to work in a very professional (as I'm sure it is) accounting package. Believe me, I'm sorry it didn't work for me, as I was thinking of using it to run my property management business accounting expenses, income, payroll, and taxes. But for now I'll continue to use Excel until something else comes forward. Dave Carlson Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit
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From: "Richard B McDonald" <richardbmcdonald@gmail.com> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 18:50 Subject: RE: 64 v. 32 Bit Computers for Peachtree Accounting Hi! just to chime-in here, there is no requirement for a 64-bit system for a smooth operation of Peachtree Complete Accounting. In fact, the vast majority of testing has been on 32-bit systems. That said, as noted below, 64-bit is far faster. One ought to note that even now the most resource intensive applications come in 64-bit versions e.g., (Windows 7, JAWS, Internet Explorer). Whenever possible, I always go for the 64-bit version. RAM, is, however, the key ingredient for everything; is it not? Indeed, I believe Microsoft itself strongly recommends at least six gigabytes of RAM just to satisfy Windows 7's needs. Anyway, Peachtree works great on a 32-bit machine; but if a user has less than six gigabytes of RAM it will be slow. All the best, Richard -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of epierce@surewest.net Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 10:00 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: No, Thanks -- Live, Free Telephone Helpfor setting-up Peachtree Complete Accounting I would encourage you to lobby them to get 64 bit Windows 7 for you, especially if you need to run something beastly like Peachtree. There are some disadvantages to a 64 bit OS. 64 bit drivers for older peripherals such as a printers/scanners can be harder to find than 32 bit drivers. Some legacy software might run better in 32 bit "compatibility" mode. If you do not have to worry about old legacy software or old peripherals, 64 bit and >= 6GB RAM is probably an excellent choice for people seeking performance improvements. At some point in the future 32 bit software will be obsolete, just as 16 bit and 8 bit software is now almost completely obsolete. If I remember correctly, Windows Server 2008 does not have a 32 bit version. ---- Original message ---- Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 09:43:48 -0700_______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
That's interesting, because the early buzz on 7 was it was not a resource hog, and would be an easy upgrade for most machines. I don't know how much I have in this box, but, based on experience, I'll bet a nickel it's not more than 2GB.
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Ted
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Richard B McDonald Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 9:50 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: 64 v. 32 Bit Computers for Peachtree Accounting Hi! just to chime-in here, there is no requirement for a 64-bit system for a smooth operation of Peachtree Complete Accounting. In fact, the vast majority of testing has been on 32-bit systems. That said, as noted below, 64-bit is far faster. One ought to note that even now the most resource intensive applications come in 64-bit versions e.g., (Windows 7, JAWS, Internet Explorer). Whenever possible, I always go for the 64-bit version. RAM, is, however, the key ingredient for everything; is it not? Indeed, I believe Microsoft itself strongly recommends at least six gigabytes of RAM just to satisfy Windows 7's needs. Anyway, Peachtree works great on a 32-bit machine; but if a user has less than six gigabytes of RAM it will be slow. All the best, Richard -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of epierce@surewest.net Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 10:00 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: No, Thanks -- Live, Free Telephone Helpfor setting-up Peachtree Complete Accounting I would encourage you to lobby them to get 64 bit Windows 7 for you, especially if you need to run something beastly like Peachtree. There are some disadvantages to a 64 bit OS. 64 bit drivers for older peripherals such as a printers/scanners can be harder to find than 32 bit drivers. Some legacy software might run better in 32 bit "compatibility" mode. If you do not have to worry about old legacy software or old peripherals, 64 bit and >= 6GB RAM is probably an excellent choice for people seeking performance improvements. At some point in the future 32 bit software will be obsolete, just as 16 bit and 8 bit software is now almost completely obsolete. If I remember correctly, Windows Server 2008 does not have a 32 bit version. ---- Original message ---- Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 09:43:48 -0700_______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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