[Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133


Dave...
 

Ed,

Very impressive! If I ever start getting arthritis, I'll consider this
seriously.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 14:44
Subject: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133


Hello everyone:
This message is being dictated using Dragon Naturally Speaking. I promised
everyone that I would post a message as soon as I had fully installed Dragon
Naturally Speaking.
I did absolutely no training. This is version 11.5, and I am amazed with
its accuracy. In fact, I am dictating this e-mail message using Naturally
Speaking.
Here are some tips:
first, if you are using a laptop, your built in sound card is probably an
adequate. I would encourage you to use a USB sound card.
Second, in order to keep the Dragon Toolbar out of the way, under "options,"
be sure to put Naturally Speaking in the system tray.
Third, under Options, be sure to go to the hotkeys tab. There, create a set
of hotkeys that makes sense to you.
For those of you who are looking for a dictation solution, I highly
recommend Dragon Naturally Speaking.
Just so you know, I made absolutely no edits to this e-mail message.


I. Edward Marquette
Direct Dial: 816.502.4646
Mobile: 816.812.0088
Google Voice: 408.692.5640
Facsimile: 816.960.0041
Kutak Rock LLP
1010 Grand Boulevard
Suite 500
Kansas City, MO 64106
ed.marquette@kutakrock.com




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REFERRED TO IN THE PROMOTING, MARKETING OR
RECOMMENDING OF ANY ENTITY, INVESTMENT PLAN OR ARRANGEMENT, AND SUCH ADVICE
IS NOT INTENDED OR WRITTEN TO BE USED,
AND CANNOT BE USED, BY A TAXPAYER FOR THE PURPOSE OF AVOIDING PENALTIES
UNDER THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE.
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Peter Holdstock <ptrholdstock@...>
 

Hi, I would suggest people try their onboard soundcards before going out and buying new ones as most laptops these days use either Intel or Realtek audio cards which have certainly worked fine for me. The headset is the main thing. I'm not sure what mine is but if I find out I'll pass it on. It works amazingly well out of the box. If you've got an Iphone you can even use that as the microphone and that works very well also.

peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 11:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

Ed,

Very impressive! If I ever start getting arthritis, I'll consider this
seriously.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 14:44
Subject: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133


Hello everyone:
This message is being dictated using Dragon Naturally Speaking. I promised
everyone that I would post a message as soon as I had fully installed Dragon
Naturally Speaking.
I did absolutely no training. This is version 11.5, and I am amazed with
its accuracy. In fact, I am dictating this e-mail message using Naturally
Speaking.
Here are some tips:
first, if you are using a laptop, your built in sound card is probably an
adequate. I would encourage you to use a USB sound card.
Second, in order to keep the Dragon Toolbar out of the way, under "options,"
be sure to put Naturally Speaking in the system tray.
Third, under Options, be sure to go to the hotkeys tab. There, create a set
of hotkeys that makes sense to you.
For those of you who are looking for a dictation solution, I highly
recommend Dragon Naturally Speaking.
Just so you know, I made absolutely no edits to this e-mail message.


I. Edward Marquette
Direct Dial: 816.502.4646
Mobile: 816.812.0088
Google Voice: 408.692.5640
Facsimile: 816.960.0041
Kutak Rock LLP
1010 Grand Boulevard
Suite 500
Kansas City, MO 64106
ed.marquette@kutakrock.com




#############################################################################################################
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REFERRED TO IN THE PROMOTING, MARKETING OR
RECOMMENDING OF ANY ENTITY, INVESTMENT PLAN OR ARRANGEMENT, AND SUCH ADVICE
IS NOT INTENDED OR WRITTEN TO BE USED,
AND CANNOT BE USED, BY A TAXPAYER FOR THE PURPOSE OF AVOIDING PENALTIES
UNDER THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE.
#############################################################################################################
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recipient(s) above and may contain information
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jeff worthington <jjwcristiano040106@...>
 

So, Just got Dragon for my birthday, Love my mom, and I'm geting it
out of the box. Just 2 questions. 1, do I need sighted help to instal
it with JFWS? and 2 is there anything I should know like anything to
charge or conect first, anything at all that could effect the
instalation? Doing it on my laptop because the desktop is geting
fixed. Thank you all and, seems real impresive what Dragon can do,
this will be great.

On 12/20/11, Peter Holdstock <ptrholdstock@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, I would suggest people try their onboard soundcards before going out and
buying new ones as most laptops these days use either Intel or Realtek audio
cards which have certainly worked fine for me. The headset is the main
thing. I'm not sure what mine is but if I find out I'll pass it on. It works
amazingly well out of the box. If you've got an Iphone you can even use that
as the microphone and that works very well also.

peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 11:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

Ed,

Very impressive! If I ever start getting arthritis, I'll consider this
seriously.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 14:44
Subject: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133


Hello everyone:
This message is being dictated using Dragon Naturally Speaking. I promised
everyone that I would post a message as soon as I had fully installed Dragon
Naturally Speaking.
I did absolutely no training. This is version 11.5, and I am amazed with
its accuracy. In fact, I am dictating this e-mail message using Naturally
Speaking.
Here are some tips:
first, if you are using a laptop, your built in sound card is probably an
adequate. I would encourage you to use a USB sound card.
Second, in order to keep the Dragon Toolbar out of the way, under "options,"
be sure to put Naturally Speaking in the system tray.
Third, under Options, be sure to go to the hotkeys tab. There, create a set
of hotkeys that makes sense to you.
For those of you who are looking for a dictation solution, I highly
recommend Dragon Naturally Speaking.
Just so you know, I made absolutely no edits to this e-mail message.


I. Edward Marquette
Direct Dial: 816.502.4646
Mobile: 816.812.0088
Google Voice: 408.692.5640
Facsimile: 816.960.0041
Kutak Rock LLP
1010 Grand Boulevard
Suite 500
Kansas City, MO 64106
ed.marquette@kutakrock.com




#############################################################################################################
ANY FEDERAL TAX ADVICE CONTAINED IN THIS MESSAGE SHOULD NOT BE USED OR
REFERRED TO IN THE PROMOTING, MARKETING OR
RECOMMENDING OF ANY ENTITY, INVESTMENT PLAN OR ARRANGEMENT, AND SUCH ADVICE
IS NOT INTENDED OR WRITTEN TO BE USED,
AND CANNOT BE USED, BY A TAXPAYER FOR THE PURPOSE OF AVOIDING PENALTIES
UNDER THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE.
#############################################################################################################
This E-mail message is confidential, is intended only for the named
recipient(s) above and may contain information
that is privileged, attorney work product or otherwise protected by
applicable law. If you have received this
message in error, please notify the sender at 402-346-6000 and delete this
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Thank you.
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Marquette, Ed <Ed.Marquette@...>
 

Hello:
Assuming you are installing this on your own machine and do not have to worry about an information technology department's oppressive security settings, everything should be pretty straightforward.
Sighted assistance is not necessary; however, it could be a comfort. You will be asked to identify your sound system. Dragon will help, but you should know something about your system.
Peter seems to have had good luck with the built in sound facility on his laptop. I have never been able to get a built-in sound system on a laptop to work; however, I have used nothing but ThinkPad laptops for the past 15 years. They are good machines, but this is not my choice.
Be sure to position the headset microphone properly. It should be in front of your mouth and about one inch away. A little variation doesn't matter, but if you have a swivel boom and the microphone is on top of your head, the results will be disastrous.
You will be asked to check the volume of your sound system. In that step of the installation, it really does not matter what you say. You can recite a nursery rhyme.
In the next step in the installation, the sound systems quality is checked. There, it is probably better to read what is on the screen. For this, you will need to use the JAWS cursor. The text is only about two sentences. So, this is not a big deal.
By far, the most important thing to remember is to go through the settings. You need to be sure that Dragon Naturally Speaking is running out of the system tray.
Most of the other settings are a matter of personal preference, and for many, the default settings work fine.
There is an option to turn on screen reader menus. Be sure that option is checked.
There is also a section to assign hotkeys. I do not particularly like the default hotkeys. I rarely use the "wake-up" and "go to sleep" commands. I usually turn the microphone on and off with a hotkey, in my case, shift plus F-11.
Where you encounter words that Dragon does not understand, be sure to highlight the word or phrase. Then, say "correct that." This should open up a dialogue box. The first item in the dialog box is an edit box. There, you can type in the correct spelling of the word that Dragon messed up. If you hit tab on the edit box, you will be presented with a list of choices. You can arrow down to the proper choice and hit enter, or you can simply say "choose one" or "choose three" or whatever the item you want to select is listed as.
I like to use the list when it works; however, for strange proper names, Dragon probably won't be able to suggest anything helpful. Then, when you type in the word, you can either just press enter or preferably, you should tab over to training. To start training, say the word, and then press on the "done" button.
Dragon will remember your word, even if it is a really strange one.
Remember, you can get help. Probably the easiest to remember is, "what can I say." I think you can also say "show me a list of commands" or "show me help."
Use the Jaws task switching key, shift plus F-10. The Dragon Side-Bar will show up. You can also just say "Dragon Side Bar," and that will bring it up. I know because while I was dictating it just now, I triggered the Dragon Side Bar.
The help facility is a kind of HTML display, and it works very well with Jaws.
I am sure others will have additional tips, but this should get you started.
By the way, I dictated this using Dragon Naturally Speaking.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of jeff worthington
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 4:48 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

So, Just got Dragon for my birthday, Love my mom, and I'm geting it
out of the box. Just 2 questions. 1, do I need sighted help to instal
it with JFWS? and 2 is there anything I should know like anything to
charge or conect first, anything at all that could effect the
instalation? Doing it on my laptop because the desktop is geting
fixed. Thank you all and, seems real impresive what Dragon can do,
this will be great.

On 12/20/11, Peter Holdstock <ptrholdstock@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, I would suggest people try their onboard soundcards before going out and
buying new ones as most laptops these days use either Intel or Realtek audio
cards which have certainly worked fine for me. The headset is the main
thing. I'm not sure what mine is but if I find out I'll pass it on. It works
amazingly well out of the box. If you've got an Iphone you can even use that
as the microphone and that works very well also.

peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 11:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

Ed,

Very impressive! If I ever start getting arthritis, I'll consider this
seriously.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 14:44
Subject: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133


Hello everyone:
This message is being dictated using Dragon Naturally Speaking. I promised
everyone that I would post a message as soon as I had fully installed Dragon
Naturally Speaking.
I did absolutely no training. This is version 11.5, and I am amazed with
its accuracy. In fact, I am dictating this e-mail message using Naturally
Speaking.
Here are some tips:
first, if you are using a laptop, your built in sound card is probably an
adequate. I would encourage you to use a USB sound card.
Second, in order to keep the Dragon Toolbar out of the way, under "options,"
be sure to put Naturally Speaking in the system tray.
Third, under Options, be sure to go to the hotkeys tab. There, create a set
of hotkeys that makes sense to you.
For those of you who are looking for a dictation solution, I highly
recommend Dragon Naturally Speaking.
Just so you know, I made absolutely no edits to this e-mail message.


I. Edward Marquette
Direct Dial: 816.502.4646
Mobile: 816.812.0088
Google Voice: 408.692.5640
Facsimile: 816.960.0041
Kutak Rock LLP
1010 Grand Boulevard
Suite 500
Kansas City, MO 64106
ed.marquette@kutakrock.com




#############################################################################################################
ANY FEDERAL TAX ADVICE CONTAINED IN THIS MESSAGE SHOULD NOT BE USED OR
REFERRED TO IN THE PROMOTING, MARKETING OR
RECOMMENDING OF ANY ENTITY, INVESTMENT PLAN OR ARRANGEMENT, AND SUCH ADVICE
IS NOT INTENDED OR WRITTEN TO BE USED,
AND CANNOT BE USED, BY A TAXPAYER FOR THE PURPOSE OF AVOIDING PENALTIES
UNDER THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE.
#############################################################################################################
This E-mail message is confidential, is intended only for the named
recipient(s) above and may contain information
that is privileged, attorney work product or otherwise protected by
applicable law. If you have received this
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Thank you.
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Peter Holdstock <ptrholdstock@...>
 

Hi, I installed it all using JAWS myself and haven't read any of the manuals or help files as it was all pretty easy to just follow. I'd suggest when doing any of the training (which is optional) that with JAWS coming in to the headset, you slow the speech right down to a speed that you can read it as that will reduce the number of pauses and errors you make whilst reading it. Fortunately the latest version doesn't mind waiting for the pauses and is quite forgiving. It also takes in to account corrections you make using the keyboard as well as your voice so is always learning.

peter

-----Original Message-----
From: jeff worthington
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 10:47 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

So, Just got Dragon for my birthday, Love my mom, and I'm geting it
out of the box. Just 2 questions. 1, do I need sighted help to instal
it with JFWS? and 2 is there anything I should know like anything to
charge or conect first, anything at all that could effect the
instalation? Doing it on my laptop because the desktop is geting
fixed. Thank you all and, seems real impresive what Dragon can do,
this will be great.

On 12/20/11, Peter Holdstock <ptrholdstock@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, I would suggest people try their onboard soundcards before going out and
buying new ones as most laptops these days use either Intel or Realtek audio
cards which have certainly worked fine for me. The headset is the main
thing. I'm not sure what mine is but if I find out I'll pass it on. It works
amazingly well out of the box. If you've got an Iphone you can even use that
as the microphone and that works very well also.

peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 11:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

Ed,

Very impressive! If I ever start getting arthritis, I'll consider this
seriously.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 14:44
Subject: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133


Hello everyone:
This message is being dictated using Dragon Naturally Speaking. I promised
everyone that I would post a message as soon as I had fully installed Dragon
Naturally Speaking.
I did absolutely no training. This is version 11.5, and I am amazed with
its accuracy. In fact, I am dictating this e-mail message using Naturally
Speaking.
Here are some tips:
first, if you are using a laptop, your built in sound card is probably an
adequate. I would encourage you to use a USB sound card.
Second, in order to keep the Dragon Toolbar out of the way, under "options,"
be sure to put Naturally Speaking in the system tray.
Third, under Options, be sure to go to the hotkeys tab. There, create a set
of hotkeys that makes sense to you.
For those of you who are looking for a dictation solution, I highly
recommend Dragon Naturally Speaking.
Just so you know, I made absolutely no edits to this e-mail message.


I. Edward Marquette
Direct Dial: 816.502.4646
Mobile: 816.812.0088
Google Voice: 408.692.5640
Facsimile: 816.960.0041
Kutak Rock LLP
1010 Grand Boulevard
Suite 500
Kansas City, MO 64106
ed.marquette@kutakrock.com




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REFERRED TO IN THE PROMOTING, MARKETING OR
RECOMMENDING OF ANY ENTITY, INVESTMENT PLAN OR ARRANGEMENT, AND SUCH ADVICE
IS NOT INTENDED OR WRITTEN TO BE USED,
AND CANNOT BE USED, BY A TAXPAYER FOR THE PURPOSE OF AVOIDING PENALTIES
UNDER THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE.
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recipient(s) above and may contain information
that is privileged, attorney work product or otherwise protected by
applicable law. If you have received this
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Thank you.
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Hi, I don't think the correction box is so important now that it learns from keyboard corrections i.e. just edit the word it got wrong in your document and it should learn that. I also found with JAWS 13 that the screen reader menu option didn't make any difference and it does say in the help to use that option if your having problems so see how you get on.

But great info so thanks for that.

Peter

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Marquette, Ed
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 8:07 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

Hello:
Assuming you are installing this on your own machine and do not have to worry about an information technology department's oppressive security settings, everything should be pretty straightforward.
Sighted assistance is not necessary; however, it could be a comfort. You will be asked to identify your sound system. Dragon will help, but you should know something about your system.
Peter seems to have had good luck with the built in sound facility on his laptop. I have never been able to get a built-in sound system on a laptop to work; however, I have used nothing but ThinkPad laptops for the past 15 years. They are good machines, but this is not my choice.
Be sure to position the headset microphone properly. It should be in front of your mouth and about one inch away. A little variation doesn't matter, but if you have a swivel boom and the microphone is on top of your head, the results will be disastrous.
You will be asked to check the volume of your sound system. In that step of the installation, it really does not matter what you say. You can recite a nursery rhyme.
In the next step in the installation, the sound systems quality is checked. There, it is probably better to read what is on the screen. For this, you will need to use the JAWS cursor. The text is only about two sentences. So, this is not a big deal.
By far, the most important thing to remember is to go through the settings. You need to be sure that Dragon Naturally Speaking is running out of the system tray.
Most of the other settings are a matter of personal preference, and for many, the default settings work fine.
There is an option to turn on screen reader menus. Be sure that option is checked.
There is also a section to assign hotkeys. I do not particularly like the default hotkeys. I rarely use the "wake-up" and "go to sleep" commands. I usually turn the microphone on and off with a hotkey, in my case, shift plus F-11.
Where you encounter words that Dragon does not understand, be sure to highlight the word or phrase. Then, say "correct that." This should open up a dialogue box. The first item in the dialog box is an edit box. There, you can type in the correct spelling of the word that Dragon messed up. If you hit tab on the edit box, you will be presented with a list of choices. You can arrow down to the proper choice and hit enter, or you can simply say "choose one" or "choose three" or whatever the item you want to select is listed as.
I like to use the list when it works; however, for strange proper names, Dragon probably won't be able to suggest anything helpful. Then, when you type in the word, you can either just press enter or preferably, you should tab over to training. To start training, say the word, and then press on the "done" button.
Dragon will remember your word, even if it is a really strange one.
Remember, you can get help. Probably the easiest to remember is, "what can I say." I think you can also say "show me a list of commands" or "show me help."
Use the Jaws task switching key, shift plus F-10. The Dragon Side-Bar will show up. You can also just say "Dragon Side Bar," and that will bring it up. I know because while I was dictating it just now, I triggered the Dragon Side Bar.
The help facility is a kind of HTML display, and it works very well with Jaws.
I am sure others will have additional tips, but this should get you started.
By the way, I dictated this using Dragon Naturally Speaking.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of jeff worthington
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 4:48 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

So, Just got Dragon for my birthday, Love my mom, and I'm geting it
out of the box. Just 2 questions. 1, do I need sighted help to instal
it with JFWS? and 2 is there anything I should know like anything to
charge or conect first, anything at all that could effect the
instalation? Doing it on my laptop because the desktop is geting
fixed. Thank you all and, seems real impresive what Dragon can do,
this will be great.

On 12/20/11, Peter Holdstock <ptrholdstock@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, I would suggest people try their onboard soundcards before going out and
buying new ones as most laptops these days use either Intel or Realtek audio
cards which have certainly worked fine for me. The headset is the main
thing. I'm not sure what mine is but if I find out I'll pass it on. It works
amazingly well out of the box. If you've got an Iphone you can even use that
as the microphone and that works very well also.

peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 11:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

Ed,

Very impressive! If I ever start getting arthritis, I'll consider this
seriously.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 14:44
Subject: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133


Hello everyone:
This message is being dictated using Dragon Naturally Speaking. I promised
everyone that I would post a message as soon as I had fully installed Dragon
Naturally Speaking.
I did absolutely no training. This is version 11.5, and I am amazed with
its accuracy. In fact, I am dictating this e-mail message using Naturally
Speaking.
Here are some tips:
first, if you are using a laptop, your built in sound card is probably an
adequate. I would encourage you to use a USB sound card.
Second, in order to keep the Dragon Toolbar out of the way, under "options,"
be sure to put Naturally Speaking in the system tray.
Third, under Options, be sure to go to the hotkeys tab. There, create a set
of hotkeys that makes sense to you.
For those of you who are looking for a dictation solution, I highly
recommend Dragon Naturally Speaking.
Just so you know, I made absolutely no edits to this e-mail message.


I. Edward Marquette
Direct Dial: 816.502.4646
Mobile: 816.812.0088
Google Voice: 408.692.5640
Facsimile: 816.960.0041
Kutak Rock LLP
1010 Grand Boulevard
Suite 500
Kansas City, MO 64106
ed.marquette@kutakrock.com




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I would like to try the Dragon. Which version would be the one for my purposes? Home, Preferred, or Professional and what version number? Would be using it with MS Word and E Mail along with Jaws version 13.
Thanks, Tom

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 12:07 AM
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133


Hello:
Assuming you are installing this on your own machine and do not have to worry about an information technology department's oppressive security settings, everything should be pretty straightforward.
Sighted assistance is not necessary; however, it could be a comfort. You will be asked to identify your sound system. Dragon will help, but you should know something about your system.
Peter seems to have had good luck with the built in sound facility on his laptop. I have never been able to get a built-in sound system on a laptop to work; however, I have used nothing but ThinkPad laptops for the past 15 years. They are good machines, but this is not my choice.
Be sure to position the headset microphone properly. It should be in front of your mouth and about one inch away. A little variation doesn't matter, but if you have a swivel boom and the microphone is on top of your head, the results will be disastrous.
You will be asked to check the volume of your sound system. In that step of the installation, it really does not matter what you say. You can recite a nursery rhyme.
In the next step in the installation, the sound systems quality is checked. There, it is probably better to read what is on the screen. For this, you will need to use the JAWS cursor. The text is only about two sentences. So, this is not a big deal.
By far, the most important thing to remember is to go through the settings. You need to be sure that Dragon Naturally Speaking is running out of the system tray.
Most of the other settings are a matter of personal preference, and for many, the default settings work fine.
There is an option to turn on screen reader menus. Be sure that option is checked.
There is also a section to assign hotkeys. I do not particularly like the default hotkeys. I rarely use the "wake-up" and "go to sleep" commands. I usually turn the microphone on and off with a hotkey, in my case, shift plus F-11.
Where you encounter words that Dragon does not understand, be sure to highlight the word or phrase. Then, say "correct that." This should open up a dialogue box. The first item in the dialog box is an edit box. There, you can type in the correct spelling of the word that Dragon messed up. If you hit tab on the edit box, you will be presented with a list of choices. You can arrow down to the proper choice and hit enter, or you can simply say "choose one" or "choose three" or whatever the item you want to select is listed as.
I like to use the list when it works; however, for strange proper names, Dragon probably won't be able to suggest anything helpful. Then, when you type in the word, you can either just press enter or preferably, you should tab over to training. To start training, say the word, and then press on the "done" button.
Dragon will remember your word, even if it is a really strange one.
Remember, you can get help. Probably the easiest to remember is, "what can I say." I think you can also say "show me a list of commands" or "show me help."
Use the Jaws task switching key, shift plus F-10. The Dragon Side-Bar will show up. You can also just say "Dragon Side Bar," and that will bring it up. I know because while I was dictating it just now, I triggered the Dragon Side Bar.
The help facility is a kind of HTML display, and it works very well with Jaws.
I am sure others will have additional tips, but this should get you started.
By the way, I dictated this using Dragon Naturally Speaking.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of jeff worthington
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 4:48 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

So, Just got Dragon for my birthday, Love my mom, and I'm geting it
out of the box. Just 2 questions. 1, do I need sighted help to instal
it with JFWS? and 2 is there anything I should know like anything to
charge or conect first, anything at all that could effect the
instalation? Doing it on my laptop because the desktop is geting
fixed. Thank you all and, seems real impresive what Dragon can do,
this will be great.

On 12/20/11, Peter Holdstock <ptrholdstock@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, I would suggest people try their onboard soundcards before going out and
buying new ones as most laptops these days use either Intel or Realtek audio
cards which have certainly worked fine for me. The headset is the main
thing. I'm not sure what mine is but if I find out I'll pass it on. It works
amazingly well out of the box. If you've got an Iphone you can even use that
as the microphone and that works very well also.

peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 11:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

Ed,

Very impressive! If I ever start getting arthritis, I'll consider this
seriously.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 14:44
Subject: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133


Hello everyone:
This message is being dictated using Dragon Naturally Speaking. I promised
everyone that I would post a message as soon as I had fully installed Dragon
Naturally Speaking.
I did absolutely no training. This is version 11.5, and I am amazed with
its accuracy. In fact, I am dictating this e-mail message using Naturally
Speaking.
Here are some tips:
first, if you are using a laptop, your built in sound card is probably an
adequate. I would encourage you to use a USB sound card.
Second, in order to keep the Dragon Toolbar out of the way, under "options,"
be sure to put Naturally Speaking in the system tray.
Third, under Options, be sure to go to the hotkeys tab. There, create a set
of hotkeys that makes sense to you.
For those of you who are looking for a dictation solution, I highly
recommend Dragon Naturally Speaking.
Just so you know, I made absolutely no edits to this e-mail message.


I. Edward Marquette
Direct Dial: 816.502.4646
Mobile: 816.812.0088
Google Voice: 408.692.5640
Facsimile: 816.960.0041
Kutak Rock LLP
1010 Grand Boulevard
Suite 500
Kansas City, MO 64106
ed.marquette@kutakrock.com




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AND CANNOT BE USED, BY A TAXPAYER FOR THE PURPOSE OF AVOIDING PENALTIES
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Marquette, Ed <Ed.Marquette@...>
 

I'm using the Professional, but I doubt that is required. It was required when I used J_Say, which is the only reason I have the Professional version.
Of course, I'm not using J_Say any more.
Please check first, but I think that if you get the Preferred, you will get to use what you paid as an upgrade to the Professional version.
Plus, once you are on the Nuance mailing list, you get contacted for "special" deals, and I've known people who upgraded for a fraction of the cost using a Nuance "special offer."

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of tcivi31
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 5:26 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

I would like to try the Dragon. Which version would be the one for my
purposes? Home, Preferred, or Professional and what version number? Would
be using it with MS Word and E Mail along with Jaws version 13.
Thanks, Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 12:07 AM
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133


Hello:
Assuming you are installing this on your own machine and do not have to
worry about an information technology department's oppressive security
settings, everything should be pretty straightforward.
Sighted assistance is not necessary; however, it could be a comfort. You
will be asked to identify your sound system. Dragon will help, but you
should know something about your system.
Peter seems to have had good luck with the built in sound facility on his
laptop. I have never been able to get a built-in sound system on a laptop
to work; however, I have used nothing but ThinkPad laptops for the past 15
years. They are good machines, but this is not my choice.
Be sure to position the headset microphone properly. It should be in
front of your mouth and about one inch away. A little variation doesn't
matter, but if you have a swivel boom and the microphone is on top of your
head, the results will be disastrous.
You will be asked to check the volume of your sound system. In that step
of the installation, it really does not matter what you say. You can
recite a nursery rhyme.
In the next step in the installation, the sound systems quality is
checked. There, it is probably better to read what is on the screen. For
this, you will need to use the JAWS cursor. The text is only about two
sentences. So, this is not a big deal.
By far, the most important thing to remember is to go through the
settings. You need to be sure that Dragon Naturally Speaking is running
out of the system tray.
Most of the other settings are a matter of personal preference, and for
many, the default settings work fine.
There is an option to turn on screen reader menus. Be sure that option is
checked.
There is also a section to assign hotkeys. I do not particularly like the
default hotkeys. I rarely use the "wake-up" and "go to sleep" commands.
I usually turn the microphone on and off with a hotkey, in my case, shift
plus F-11.
Where you encounter words that Dragon does not understand, be sure to
highlight the word or phrase. Then, say "correct that." This should open
up a dialogue box. The first item in the dialog box is an edit box.
There, you can type in the correct spelling of the word that Dragon messed
up. If you hit tab on the edit box, you will be presented with a list of
choices. You can arrow down to the proper choice and hit enter, or you
can simply say "choose one" or "choose three" or whatever the item you
want to select is listed as.
I like to use the list when it works; however, for strange proper names,
Dragon probably won't be able to suggest anything helpful. Then, when you
type in the word, you can either just press enter or preferably, you
should tab over to training. To start training, say the word, and then
press on the "done" button.
Dragon will remember your word, even if it is a really strange one.
Remember, you can get help. Probably the easiest to remember is, "what
can I say." I think you can also say "show me a list of commands" or
"show me help."
Use the Jaws task switching key, shift plus F-10. The Dragon Side-Bar
will show up. You can also just say "Dragon Side Bar," and that will
bring it up. I know because while I was dictating it just now, I
triggered the Dragon Side Bar.
The help facility is a kind of HTML display, and it works very well with
Jaws.
I am sure others will have additional tips, but this should get you
started.
By the way, I dictated this using Dragon Naturally Speaking.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of jeff worthington
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 4:48 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

So, Just got Dragon for my birthday, Love my mom, and I'm geting it
out of the box. Just 2 questions. 1, do I need sighted help to instal
it with JFWS? and 2 is there anything I should know like anything to
charge or conect first, anything at all that could effect the
instalation? Doing it on my laptop because the desktop is geting
fixed. Thank you all and, seems real impresive what Dragon can do,
this will be great.

On 12/20/11, Peter Holdstock <ptrholdstock@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, I would suggest people try their onboard soundcards before going out
and
buying new ones as most laptops these days use either Intel or Realtek
audio
cards which have certainly worked fine for me. The headset is the main
thing. I'm not sure what mine is but if I find out I'll pass it on. It
works
amazingly well out of the box. If you've got an Iphone you can even use
that
as the microphone and that works very well also.

peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 11:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

Ed,

Very impressive! If I ever start getting arthritis, I'll consider this
seriously.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 14:44
Subject: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133


Hello everyone:
This message is being dictated using Dragon Naturally Speaking. I
promised
everyone that I would post a message as soon as I had fully installed
Dragon
Naturally Speaking.
I did absolutely no training. This is version 11.5, and I am amazed with
its accuracy. In fact, I am dictating this e-mail message using
Naturally
Speaking.
Here are some tips:
first, if you are using a laptop, your built in sound card is probably an
adequate. I would encourage you to use a USB sound card.
Second, in order to keep the Dragon Toolbar out of the way, under
"options,"
be sure to put Naturally Speaking in the system tray.
Third, under Options, be sure to go to the hotkeys tab. There, create a
set
of hotkeys that makes sense to you.
For those of you who are looking for a dictation solution, I highly
recommend Dragon Naturally Speaking.
Just so you know, I made absolutely no edits to this e-mail message.


I. Edward Marquette
Direct Dial: 816.502.4646
Mobile: 816.812.0088
Google Voice: 408.692.5640
Facsimile: 816.960.0041
Kutak Rock LLP
1010 Grand Boulevard
Suite 500
Kansas City, MO 64106
ed.marquette@kutakrock.com




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AND CANNOT BE USED, BY A TAXPAYER FOR THE PURPOSE OF AVOIDING PENALTIES
UNDER THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE.
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RJ Sandefur
 

Are you keeping your j-say? RJ

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 7:31 PM
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133


I'm using the Professional, but I doubt that is required. It was required when I used J_Say, which is the only reason I have the Professional version.
Of course, I'm not using J_Say any more.
Please check first, but I think that if you get the Preferred, you will get to use what you paid as an upgrade to the Professional version.
Plus, once you are on the Nuance mailing list, you get contacted for "special" deals, and I've known people who upgraded for a fraction of the cost using a Nuance "special offer."


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of tcivi31
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 5:26 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

I would like to try the Dragon. Which version would be the one for my
purposes? Home, Preferred, or Professional and what version number? Would
be using it with MS Word and E Mail along with Jaws version 13.
Thanks, Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 12:07 AM
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133


Hello:
Assuming you are installing this on your own machine and do not have to
worry about an information technology department's oppressive security
settings, everything should be pretty straightforward.
Sighted assistance is not necessary; however, it could be a comfort. You
will be asked to identify your sound system. Dragon will help, but you
should know something about your system.
Peter seems to have had good luck with the built in sound facility on his
laptop. I have never been able to get a built-in sound system on a laptop
to work; however, I have used nothing but ThinkPad laptops for the past 15
years. They are good machines, but this is not my choice.
Be sure to position the headset microphone properly. It should be in
front of your mouth and about one inch away. A little variation doesn't
matter, but if you have a swivel boom and the microphone is on top of your
head, the results will be disastrous.
You will be asked to check the volume of your sound system. In that step
of the installation, it really does not matter what you say. You can
recite a nursery rhyme.
In the next step in the installation, the sound systems quality is
checked. There, it is probably better to read what is on the screen. For
this, you will need to use the JAWS cursor. The text is only about two
sentences. So, this is not a big deal.
By far, the most important thing to remember is to go through the
settings. You need to be sure that Dragon Naturally Speaking is running
out of the system tray.
Most of the other settings are a matter of personal preference, and for
many, the default settings work fine.
There is an option to turn on screen reader menus. Be sure that option is
checked.
There is also a section to assign hotkeys. I do not particularly like the
default hotkeys. I rarely use the "wake-up" and "go to sleep" commands.
I usually turn the microphone on and off with a hotkey, in my case, shift
plus F-11.
Where you encounter words that Dragon does not understand, be sure to
highlight the word or phrase. Then, say "correct that." This should open
up a dialogue box. The first item in the dialog box is an edit box.
There, you can type in the correct spelling of the word that Dragon messed
up. If you hit tab on the edit box, you will be presented with a list of
choices. You can arrow down to the proper choice and hit enter, or you
can simply say "choose one" or "choose three" or whatever the item you
want to select is listed as.
I like to use the list when it works; however, for strange proper names,
Dragon probably won't be able to suggest anything helpful. Then, when you
type in the word, you can either just press enter or preferably, you
should tab over to training. To start training, say the word, and then
press on the "done" button.
Dragon will remember your word, even if it is a really strange one.
Remember, you can get help. Probably the easiest to remember is, "what
can I say." I think you can also say "show me a list of commands" or
"show me help."
Use the Jaws task switching key, shift plus F-10. The Dragon Side-Bar
will show up. You can also just say "Dragon Side Bar," and that will
bring it up. I know because while I was dictating it just now, I
triggered the Dragon Side Bar.
The help facility is a kind of HTML display, and it works very well with
Jaws.
I am sure others will have additional tips, but this should get you
started.
By the way, I dictated this using Dragon Naturally Speaking.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of jeff worthington
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 4:48 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

So, Just got Dragon for my birthday, Love my mom, and I'm geting it
out of the box. Just 2 questions. 1, do I need sighted help to instal
it with JFWS? and 2 is there anything I should know like anything to
charge or conect first, anything at all that could effect the
instalation? Doing it on my laptop because the desktop is geting
fixed. Thank you all and, seems real impresive what Dragon can do,
this will be great.

On 12/20/11, Peter Holdstock <ptrholdstock@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, I would suggest people try their onboard soundcards before going out
and
buying new ones as most laptops these days use either Intel or Realtek
audio
cards which have certainly worked fine for me. The headset is the main
thing. I'm not sure what mine is but if I find out I'll pass it on. It
works
amazingly well out of the box. If you've got an Iphone you can even use
that
as the microphone and that works very well also.

peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 11:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

Ed,

Very impressive! If I ever start getting arthritis, I'll consider this
seriously.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 14:44
Subject: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133


Hello everyone:
This message is being dictated using Dragon Naturally Speaking. I
promised
everyone that I would post a message as soon as I had fully installed
Dragon
Naturally Speaking.
I did absolutely no training. This is version 11.5, and I am amazed with
its accuracy. In fact, I am dictating this e-mail message using
Naturally
Speaking.
Here are some tips:
first, if you are using a laptop, your built in sound card is probably an
adequate. I would encourage you to use a USB sound card.
Second, in order to keep the Dragon Toolbar out of the way, under
"options,"
be sure to put Naturally Speaking in the system tray.
Third, under Options, be sure to go to the hotkeys tab. There, create a
set
of hotkeys that makes sense to you.
For those of you who are looking for a dictation solution, I highly
recommend Dragon Naturally Speaking.
Just so you know, I made absolutely no edits to this e-mail message.


I. Edward Marquette
Direct Dial: 816.502.4646
Mobile: 816.812.0088
Google Voice: 408.692.5640
Facsimile: 816.960.0041
Kutak Rock LLP
1010 Grand Boulevard
Suite 500
Kansas City, MO 64106
ed.marquette@kutakrock.com




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Been so long since I used it that I doubt it will work. I have not used it since JAWS 7. Plus, I don't think I have the materials any longer.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of RJ Sandefur
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 6:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

Are you keeping your j-say? RJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 7:31 PM
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133


I'm using the Professional, but I doubt that is required. It was required
when I used J_Say, which is the only reason I have the Professional
version.
Of course, I'm not using J_Say any more.
Please check first, but I think that if you get the Preferred, you will
get to use what you paid as an upgrade to the Professional version.
Plus, once you are on the Nuance mailing list, you get contacted for
"special" deals, and I've known people who upgraded for a fraction of the
cost using a Nuance "special offer."


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of tcivi31
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 5:26 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

I would like to try the Dragon. Which version would be the one for my
purposes? Home, Preferred, or Professional and what version number? Would
be using it with MS Word and E Mail along with Jaws version 13.
Thanks, Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 12:07 AM
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133


Hello:
Assuming you are installing this on your own machine and do not have to
worry about an information technology department's oppressive security
settings, everything should be pretty straightforward.
Sighted assistance is not necessary; however, it could be a comfort. You
will be asked to identify your sound system. Dragon will help, but you
should know something about your system.
Peter seems to have had good luck with the built in sound facility on his
laptop. I have never been able to get a built-in sound system on a
laptop
to work; however, I have used nothing but ThinkPad laptops for the past
15
years. They are good machines, but this is not my choice.
Be sure to position the headset microphone properly. It should be in
front of your mouth and about one inch away. A little variation doesn't
matter, but if you have a swivel boom and the microphone is on top of
your
head, the results will be disastrous.
You will be asked to check the volume of your sound system. In that step
of the installation, it really does not matter what you say. You can
recite a nursery rhyme.
In the next step in the installation, the sound systems quality is
checked. There, it is probably better to read what is on the screen.
For
this, you will need to use the JAWS cursor. The text is only about two
sentences. So, this is not a big deal.
By far, the most important thing to remember is to go through the
settings. You need to be sure that Dragon Naturally Speaking is running
out of the system tray.
Most of the other settings are a matter of personal preference, and for
many, the default settings work fine.
There is an option to turn on screen reader menus. Be sure that option
is
checked.
There is also a section to assign hotkeys. I do not particularly like
the
default hotkeys. I rarely use the "wake-up" and "go to sleep" commands.
I usually turn the microphone on and off with a hotkey, in my case, shift
plus F-11.
Where you encounter words that Dragon does not understand, be sure to
highlight the word or phrase. Then, say "correct that." This should
open
up a dialogue box. The first item in the dialog box is an edit box.
There, you can type in the correct spelling of the word that Dragon
messed
up. If you hit tab on the edit box, you will be presented with a list of
choices. You can arrow down to the proper choice and hit enter, or you
can simply say "choose one" or "choose three" or whatever the item you
want to select is listed as.
I like to use the list when it works; however, for strange proper names,
Dragon probably won't be able to suggest anything helpful. Then, when
you
type in the word, you can either just press enter or preferably, you
should tab over to training. To start training, say the word, and then
press on the "done" button.
Dragon will remember your word, even if it is a really strange one.
Remember, you can get help. Probably the easiest to remember is, "what
can I say." I think you can also say "show me a list of commands" or
"show me help."
Use the Jaws task switching key, shift plus F-10. The Dragon Side-Bar
will show up. You can also just say "Dragon Side Bar," and that will
bring it up. I know because while I was dictating it just now, I
triggered the Dragon Side Bar.
The help facility is a kind of HTML display, and it works very well with
Jaws.
I am sure others will have additional tips, but this should get you
started.
By the way, I dictated this using Dragon Naturally Speaking.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of jeff worthington
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 4:48 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

So, Just got Dragon for my birthday, Love my mom, and I'm geting it
out of the box. Just 2 questions. 1, do I need sighted help to instal
it with JFWS? and 2 is there anything I should know like anything to
charge or conect first, anything at all that could effect the
instalation? Doing it on my laptop because the desktop is geting
fixed. Thank you all and, seems real impresive what Dragon can do,
this will be great.

On 12/20/11, Peter Holdstock <ptrholdstock@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, I would suggest people try their onboard soundcards before going out
and
buying new ones as most laptops these days use either Intel or Realtek
audio
cards which have certainly worked fine for me. The headset is the main
thing. I'm not sure what mine is but if I find out I'll pass it on. It
works
amazingly well out of the box. If you've got an Iphone you can even use
that
as the microphone and that works very well also.

peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 11:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

Ed,

Very impressive! If I ever start getting arthritis, I'll consider this
seriously.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 14:44
Subject: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133


Hello everyone:
This message is being dictated using Dragon Naturally Speaking. I
promised
everyone that I would post a message as soon as I had fully installed
Dragon
Naturally Speaking.
I did absolutely no training. This is version 11.5, and I am amazed
with
its accuracy. In fact, I am dictating this e-mail message using
Naturally
Speaking.
Here are some tips:
first, if you are using a laptop, your built in sound card is probably
an
adequate. I would encourage you to use a USB sound card.
Second, in order to keep the Dragon Toolbar out of the way, under
"options,"
be sure to put Naturally Speaking in the system tray.
Third, under Options, be sure to go to the hotkeys tab. There, create a
set
of hotkeys that makes sense to you.
For those of you who are looking for a dictation solution, I highly
recommend Dragon Naturally Speaking.
Just so you know, I made absolutely no edits to this e-mail message.


I. Edward Marquette
Direct Dial: 816.502.4646
Mobile: 816.812.0088
Google Voice: 408.692.5640
Facsimile: 816.960.0041
Kutak Rock LLP
1010 Grand Boulevard
Suite 500
Kansas City, MO 64106
ed.marquette@kutakrock.com




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RECOMMENDING OF ANY ENTITY, INVESTMENT PLAN OR ARRANGEMENT, AND SUCH
ADVICE
IS NOT INTENDED OR WRITTEN TO BE USED,
AND CANNOT BE USED, BY A TAXPAYER FOR THE PURPOSE OF AVOIDING PENALTIES
UNDER THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE.
#############################################################################################################
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recipient(s) above and may contain information
that is privileged, attorney work product or otherwise protected by
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Does it come on a CD? RJ

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 8:11 PM
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133


Been so long since I used it that I doubt it will work. I have not used it since JAWS 7. Plus, I don't think I have the materials any longer.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of RJ Sandefur
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 6:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

Are you keeping your j-say? RJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 7:31 PM
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133


I'm using the Professional, but I doubt that is required. It was required
when I used J_Say, which is the only reason I have the Professional
version.
Of course, I'm not using J_Say any more.
Please check first, but I think that if you get the Preferred, you will
get to use what you paid as an upgrade to the Professional version.
Plus, once you are on the Nuance mailing list, you get contacted for
"special" deals, and I've known people who upgraded for a fraction of the
cost using a Nuance "special offer."


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of tcivi31
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 5:26 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

I would like to try the Dragon. Which version would be the one for my
purposes? Home, Preferred, or Professional and what version number? Would
be using it with MS Word and E Mail along with Jaws version 13.
Thanks, Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 12:07 AM
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133


Hello:
Assuming you are installing this on your own machine and do not have to
worry about an information technology department's oppressive security
settings, everything should be pretty straightforward.
Sighted assistance is not necessary; however, it could be a comfort. You
will be asked to identify your sound system. Dragon will help, but you
should know something about your system.
Peter seems to have had good luck with the built in sound facility on his
laptop. I have never been able to get a built-in sound system on a
laptop
to work; however, I have used nothing but ThinkPad laptops for the past
15
years. They are good machines, but this is not my choice.
Be sure to position the headset microphone properly. It should be in
front of your mouth and about one inch away. A little variation doesn't
matter, but if you have a swivel boom and the microphone is on top of
your
head, the results will be disastrous.
You will be asked to check the volume of your sound system. In that step
of the installation, it really does not matter what you say. You can
recite a nursery rhyme.
In the next step in the installation, the sound systems quality is
checked. There, it is probably better to read what is on the screen.
For
this, you will need to use the JAWS cursor. The text is only about two
sentences. So, this is not a big deal.
By far, the most important thing to remember is to go through the
settings. You need to be sure that Dragon Naturally Speaking is running
out of the system tray.
Most of the other settings are a matter of personal preference, and for
many, the default settings work fine.
There is an option to turn on screen reader menus. Be sure that option
is
checked.
There is also a section to assign hotkeys. I do not particularly like
the
default hotkeys. I rarely use the "wake-up" and "go to sleep" commands.
I usually turn the microphone on and off with a hotkey, in my case, shift
plus F-11.
Where you encounter words that Dragon does not understand, be sure to
highlight the word or phrase. Then, say "correct that." This should
open
up a dialogue box. The first item in the dialog box is an edit box.
There, you can type in the correct spelling of the word that Dragon
messed
up. If you hit tab on the edit box, you will be presented with a list of
choices. You can arrow down to the proper choice and hit enter, or you
can simply say "choose one" or "choose three" or whatever the item you
want to select is listed as.
I like to use the list when it works; however, for strange proper names,
Dragon probably won't be able to suggest anything helpful. Then, when
you
type in the word, you can either just press enter or preferably, you
should tab over to training. To start training, say the word, and then
press on the "done" button.
Dragon will remember your word, even if it is a really strange one.
Remember, you can get help. Probably the easiest to remember is, "what
can I say." I think you can also say "show me a list of commands" or
"show me help."
Use the Jaws task switching key, shift plus F-10. The Dragon Side-Bar
will show up. You can also just say "Dragon Side Bar," and that will
bring it up. I know because while I was dictating it just now, I
triggered the Dragon Side Bar.
The help facility is a kind of HTML display, and it works very well with
Jaws.
I am sure others will have additional tips, but this should get you
started.
By the way, I dictated this using Dragon Naturally Speaking.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of jeff worthington
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 4:48 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

So, Just got Dragon for my birthday, Love my mom, and I'm geting it
out of the box. Just 2 questions. 1, do I need sighted help to instal
it with JFWS? and 2 is there anything I should know like anything to
charge or conect first, anything at all that could effect the
instalation? Doing it on my laptop because the desktop is geting
fixed. Thank you all and, seems real impresive what Dragon can do,
this will be great.

On 12/20/11, Peter Holdstock <ptrholdstock@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, I would suggest people try their onboard soundcards before going out
and
buying new ones as most laptops these days use either Intel or Realtek
audio
cards which have certainly worked fine for me. The headset is the main
thing. I'm not sure what mine is but if I find out I'll pass it on. It
works
amazingly well out of the box. If you've got an Iphone you can even use
that
as the microphone and that works very well also.

peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 11:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

Ed,

Very impressive! If I ever start getting arthritis, I'll consider this
seriously.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 14:44
Subject: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133


Hello everyone:
This message is being dictated using Dragon Naturally Speaking. I
promised
everyone that I would post a message as soon as I had fully installed
Dragon
Naturally Speaking.
I did absolutely no training. This is version 11.5, and I am amazed
with
its accuracy. In fact, I am dictating this e-mail message using
Naturally
Speaking.
Here are some tips:
first, if you are using a laptop, your built in sound card is probably
an
adequate. I would encourage you to use a USB sound card.
Second, in order to keep the Dragon Toolbar out of the way, under
"options,"
be sure to put Naturally Speaking in the system tray.
Third, under Options, be sure to go to the hotkeys tab. There, create a
set
of hotkeys that makes sense to you.
For those of you who are looking for a dictation solution, I highly
recommend Dragon Naturally Speaking.
Just so you know, I made absolutely no edits to this e-mail message.


I. Edward Marquette
Direct Dial: 816.502.4646
Mobile: 816.812.0088
Google Voice: 408.692.5640
Facsimile: 816.960.0041
Kutak Rock LLP
1010 Grand Boulevard
Suite 500
Kansas City, MO 64106
ed.marquette@kutakrock.com




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REFERRED TO IN THE PROMOTING, MARKETING OR
RECOMMENDING OF ANY ENTITY, INVESTMENT PLAN OR ARRANGEMENT, AND SUCH
ADVICE
IS NOT INTENDED OR WRITTEN TO BE USED,
AND CANNOT BE USED, BY A TAXPAYER FOR THE PURPOSE OF AVOIDING PENALTIES
UNDER THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE.
#############################################################################################################
This E-mail message is confidential, is intended only for the named
recipient(s) above and may contain information
that is privileged, attorney work product or otherwise protected by
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It used to, but it has been a long time.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of RJ Sandefur
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 7:25 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

Does it come on a CD? RJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 8:11 PM
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133


Been so long since I used it that I doubt it will work. I have not used
it since JAWS 7. Plus, I don't think I have the materials any longer.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of RJ Sandefur
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 6:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

Are you keeping your j-say? RJ
----- Original Message -----
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 7:31 PM
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133


I'm using the Professional, but I doubt that is required. It was
required
when I used J_Say, which is the only reason I have the Professional
version.
Of course, I'm not using J_Say any more.
Please check first, but I think that if you get the Preferred, you will
get to use what you paid as an upgrade to the Professional version.
Plus, once you are on the Nuance mailing list, you get contacted for
"special" deals, and I've known people who upgraded for a fraction of the
cost using a Nuance "special offer."


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of tcivi31
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 5:26 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

I would like to try the Dragon. Which version would be the one for my
purposes? Home, Preferred, or Professional and what version number?
Would
be using it with MS Word and E Mail along with Jaws version 13.
Thanks, Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 12:07 AM
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133


Hello:
Assuming you are installing this on your own machine and do not have to
worry about an information technology department's oppressive security
settings, everything should be pretty straightforward.
Sighted assistance is not necessary; however, it could be a comfort.
You
will be asked to identify your sound system. Dragon will help, but you
should know something about your system.
Peter seems to have had good luck with the built in sound facility on
his
laptop. I have never been able to get a built-in sound system on a
laptop
to work; however, I have used nothing but ThinkPad laptops for the past
15
years. They are good machines, but this is not my choice.
Be sure to position the headset microphone properly. It should be in
front of your mouth and about one inch away. A little variation doesn't
matter, but if you have a swivel boom and the microphone is on top of
your
head, the results will be disastrous.
You will be asked to check the volume of your sound system. In that
step
of the installation, it really does not matter what you say. You can
recite a nursery rhyme.
In the next step in the installation, the sound systems quality is
checked. There, it is probably better to read what is on the screen.
For
this, you will need to use the JAWS cursor. The text is only about two
sentences. So, this is not a big deal.
By far, the most important thing to remember is to go through the
settings. You need to be sure that Dragon Naturally Speaking is running
out of the system tray.
Most of the other settings are a matter of personal preference, and for
many, the default settings work fine.
There is an option to turn on screen reader menus. Be sure that option
is
checked.
There is also a section to assign hotkeys. I do not particularly like
the
default hotkeys. I rarely use the "wake-up" and "go to sleep" commands.
I usually turn the microphone on and off with a hotkey, in my case,
shift
plus F-11.
Where you encounter words that Dragon does not understand, be sure to
highlight the word or phrase. Then, say "correct that." This should
open
up a dialogue box. The first item in the dialog box is an edit box.
There, you can type in the correct spelling of the word that Dragon
messed
up. If you hit tab on the edit box, you will be presented with a list
of
choices. You can arrow down to the proper choice and hit enter, or you
can simply say "choose one" or "choose three" or whatever the item you
want to select is listed as.
I like to use the list when it works; however, for strange proper names,
Dragon probably won't be able to suggest anything helpful. Then, when
you
type in the word, you can either just press enter or preferably, you
should tab over to training. To start training, say the word, and then
press on the "done" button.
Dragon will remember your word, even if it is a really strange one.
Remember, you can get help. Probably the easiest to remember is, "what
can I say." I think you can also say "show me a list of commands" or
"show me help."
Use the Jaws task switching key, shift plus F-10. The Dragon Side-Bar
will show up. You can also just say "Dragon Side Bar," and that will
bring it up. I know because while I was dictating it just now, I
triggered the Dragon Side Bar.
The help facility is a kind of HTML display, and it works very well with
Jaws.
I am sure others will have additional tips, but this should get you
started.
By the way, I dictated this using Dragon Naturally Speaking.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of jeff worthington
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 4:48 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

So, Just got Dragon for my birthday, Love my mom, and I'm geting it
out of the box. Just 2 questions. 1, do I need sighted help to instal
it with JFWS? and 2 is there anything I should know like anything to
charge or conect first, anything at all that could effect the
instalation? Doing it on my laptop because the desktop is geting
fixed. Thank you all and, seems real impresive what Dragon can do,
this will be great.

On 12/20/11, Peter Holdstock <ptrholdstock@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, I would suggest people try their onboard soundcards before going
out
and
buying new ones as most laptops these days use either Intel or Realtek
audio
cards which have certainly worked fine for me. The headset is the main
thing. I'm not sure what mine is but if I find out I'll pass it on. It
works
amazingly well out of the box. If you've got an Iphone you can even use
that
as the microphone and that works very well also.

peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 11:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

Ed,

Very impressive! If I ever start getting arthritis, I'll consider this
seriously.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay
Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 14:44
Subject: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133


Hello everyone:
This message is being dictated using Dragon Naturally Speaking. I
promised
everyone that I would post a message as soon as I had fully installed
Dragon
Naturally Speaking.
I did absolutely no training. This is version 11.5, and I am amazed
with
its accuracy. In fact, I am dictating this e-mail message using
Naturally
Speaking.
Here are some tips:
first, if you are using a laptop, your built in sound card is probably
an
adequate. I would encourage you to use a USB sound card.
Second, in order to keep the Dragon Toolbar out of the way, under
"options,"
be sure to put Naturally Speaking in the system tray.
Third, under Options, be sure to go to the hotkeys tab. There, create
a
set
of hotkeys that makes sense to you.
For those of you who are looking for a dictation solution, I highly
recommend Dragon Naturally Speaking.
Just so you know, I made absolutely no edits to this e-mail message.


I. Edward Marquette
Direct Dial: 816.502.4646
Mobile: 816.812.0088
Google Voice: 408.692.5640
Facsimile: 816.960.0041
Kutak Rock LLP
1010 Grand Boulevard
Suite 500
Kansas City, MO 64106
ed.marquette@kutakrock.com




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Bhavesh
 

Hay folks,

Happy 2012!
coming to the point, can anyone point me to a good text/audio tutorial
for how to use dragg and naturally speaking?
Thanks and regards,
Bhavesh.

On 1/1/12, Marquette, Ed <Ed.Marquette@kutakrock.com> wrote:
It used to, but it has been a long time.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of RJ Sandefur
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 7:25 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

Does it come on a CD? RJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 8:11 PM
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133


Been so long since I used it that I doubt it will work. I have not used
it since JAWS 7. Plus, I don't think I have the materials any longer.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]

On Behalf Of RJ Sandefur
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 6:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

Are you keeping your j-say? RJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 7:31 PM
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133


I'm using the Professional, but I doubt that is required. It was
required
when I used J_Say, which is the only reason I have the Professional
version.
Of course, I'm not using J_Say any more.
Please check first, but I think that if you get the Preferred, you will
get to use what you paid as an upgrade to the Professional version.
Plus, once you are on the Nuance mailing list, you get contacted for
"special" deals, and I've known people who upgraded for a fraction of the
cost using a Nuance "special offer."


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of tcivi31
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 5:26 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

I would like to try the Dragon. Which version would be the one for my
purposes? Home, Preferred, or Professional and what version number?
Would
be using it with MS Word and E Mail along with Jaws version 13.
Thanks, Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 12:07 AM
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133


Hello:
Assuming you are installing this on your own machine and do not have to
worry about an information technology department's oppressive security
settings, everything should be pretty straightforward.
Sighted assistance is not necessary; however, it could be a comfort.
You
will be asked to identify your sound system. Dragon will help, but you
should know something about your system.
Peter seems to have had good luck with the built in sound facility on
his
laptop. I have never been able to get a built-in sound system on a
laptop
to work; however, I have used nothing but ThinkPad laptops for the past
15
years. They are good machines, but this is not my choice.
Be sure to position the headset microphone properly. It should be in
front of your mouth and about one inch away. A little variation doesn't
matter, but if you have a swivel boom and the microphone is on top of
your
head, the results will be disastrous.
You will be asked to check the volume of your sound system. In that
step
of the installation, it really does not matter what you say. You can
recite a nursery rhyme.
In the next step in the installation, the sound systems quality is
checked. There, it is probably better to read what is on the screen.
For
this, you will need to use the JAWS cursor. The text is only about two
sentences. So, this is not a big deal.
By far, the most important thing to remember is to go through the
settings. You need to be sure that Dragon Naturally Speaking is running
out of the system tray.
Most of the other settings are a matter of personal preference, and for
many, the default settings work fine.
There is an option to turn on screen reader menus. Be sure that option
is
checked.
There is also a section to assign hotkeys. I do not particularly like
the
default hotkeys. I rarely use the "wake-up" and "go to sleep" commands.
I usually turn the microphone on and off with a hotkey, in my case,
shift
plus F-11.
Where you encounter words that Dragon does not understand, be sure to
highlight the word or phrase. Then, say "correct that." This should
open
up a dialogue box. The first item in the dialog box is an edit box.
There, you can type in the correct spelling of the word that Dragon
messed
up. If you hit tab on the edit box, you will be presented with a list
of
choices. You can arrow down to the proper choice and hit enter, or you
can simply say "choose one" or "choose three" or whatever the item you
want to select is listed as.
I like to use the list when it works; however, for strange proper names,
Dragon probably won't be able to suggest anything helpful. Then, when
you
type in the word, you can either just press enter or preferably, you
should tab over to training. To start training, say the word, and then
press on the "done" button.
Dragon will remember your word, even if it is a really strange one.
Remember, you can get help. Probably the easiest to remember is, "what
can I say." I think you can also say "show me a list of commands" or
"show me help."
Use the Jaws task switching key, shift plus F-10. The Dragon Side-Bar
will show up. You can also just say "Dragon Side Bar," and that will
bring it up. I know because while I was dictating it just now, I
triggered the Dragon Side Bar.
The help facility is a kind of HTML display, and it works very well with
Jaws.
I am sure others will have additional tips, but this should get you
started.
By the way, I dictated this using Dragon Naturally Speaking.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of jeff worthington
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 4:48 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

So, Just got Dragon for my birthday, Love my mom, and I'm geting it
out of the box. Just 2 questions. 1, do I need sighted help to instal
it with JFWS? and 2 is there anything I should know like anything to
charge or conect first, anything at all that could effect the
instalation? Doing it on my laptop because the desktop is geting
fixed. Thank you all and, seems real impresive what Dragon can do,
this will be great.

On 12/20/11, Peter Holdstock <ptrholdstock@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, I would suggest people try their onboard soundcards before going
out
and
buying new ones as most laptops these days use either Intel or Realtek
audio
cards which have certainly worked fine for me. The headset is the main
thing. I'm not sure what mine is but if I find out I'll pass it on. It
works
amazingly well out of the box. If you've got an Iphone you can even use
that
as the microphone and that works very well also.

peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 11:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

Ed,

Very impressive! If I ever start getting arthritis, I'll consider this
seriously.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay
Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 14:44
Subject: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133


Hello everyone:
This message is being dictated using Dragon Naturally Speaking. I
promised
everyone that I would post a message as soon as I had fully installed
Dragon
Naturally Speaking.
I did absolutely no training. This is version 11.5, and I am amazed
with
its accuracy. In fact, I am dictating this e-mail message using
Naturally
Speaking.
Here are some tips:
first, if you are using a laptop, your built in sound card is probably
an
adequate. I would encourage you to use a USB sound card.
Second, in order to keep the Dragon Toolbar out of the way, under
"options,"
be sure to put Naturally Speaking in the system tray.
Third, under Options, be sure to go to the hotkeys tab. There, create
a
set
of hotkeys that makes sense to you.
For those of you who are looking for a dictation solution, I highly
recommend Dragon Naturally Speaking.
Just so you know, I made absolutely no edits to this e-mail message.


I. Edward Marquette
Direct Dial: 816.502.4646
Mobile: 816.812.0088
Google Voice: 408.692.5640
Facsimile: 816.960.0041
Kutak Rock LLP
1010 Grand Boulevard
Suite 500
Kansas City, MO 64106
ed.marquette@kutakrock.com




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AND CANNOT BE USED, BY A TAXPAYER FOR THE PURPOSE OF AVOIDING PENALTIES
UNDER THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE.
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jeff worthington <jjwcristiano040106@...>
 

Major issue with dragon and JAWs. Can't read training dragon, Can't
find any setings, can't regester product as it says something about
the scedualer not set right, Should I remove dragon and reinstal? Jaws
doesn't seem to be working with it. It's Jaws 13 and Dragon 11.5, Any
help would be great. Thank you all and happy new year to everyone and
thank you for all your help last year.

On 1/1/12, BHAVESH <charmingbhavesh@gmail.com> wrote:
Hay folks,

Happy 2012!
coming to the point, can anyone point me to a good text/audio tutorial
for how to use dragg and naturally speaking?
Thanks and regards,
Bhavesh.

On 1/1/12, Marquette, Ed <Ed.Marquette@kutakrock.com> wrote:
It used to, but it has been a long time.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of RJ Sandefur
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 7:25 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

Does it come on a CD? RJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 8:11 PM
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133


Been so long since I used it that I doubt it will work. I have not used
it since JAWS 7. Plus, I don't think I have the materials any longer.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]

On Behalf Of RJ Sandefur
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 6:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

Are you keeping your j-say? RJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 7:31 PM
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133


I'm using the Professional, but I doubt that is required. It was
required
when I used J_Say, which is the only reason I have the Professional
version.
Of course, I'm not using J_Say any more.
Please check first, but I think that if you get the Preferred, you will
get to use what you paid as an upgrade to the Professional version.
Plus, once you are on the Nuance mailing list, you get contacted for
"special" deals, and I've known people who upgraded for a fraction of
the
cost using a Nuance "special offer."


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of tcivi31
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 5:26 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

I would like to try the Dragon. Which version would be the one for my
purposes? Home, Preferred, or Professional and what version number?
Would
be using it with MS Word and E Mail along with Jaws version 13.
Thanks, Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 12:07 AM
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133


Hello:
Assuming you are installing this on your own machine and do not have to
worry about an information technology department's oppressive security
settings, everything should be pretty straightforward.
Sighted assistance is not necessary; however, it could be a comfort.
You
will be asked to identify your sound system. Dragon will help, but you
should know something about your system.
Peter seems to have had good luck with the built in sound facility on
his
laptop. I have never been able to get a built-in sound system on a
laptop
to work; however, I have used nothing but ThinkPad laptops for the past
15
years. They are good machines, but this is not my choice.
Be sure to position the headset microphone properly. It should be in
front of your mouth and about one inch away. A little variation
doesn't
matter, but if you have a swivel boom and the microphone is on top of
your
head, the results will be disastrous.
You will be asked to check the volume of your sound system. In that
step
of the installation, it really does not matter what you say. You can
recite a nursery rhyme.
In the next step in the installation, the sound systems quality is
checked. There, it is probably better to read what is on the screen.
For
this, you will need to use the JAWS cursor. The text is only about two
sentences. So, this is not a big deal.
By far, the most important thing to remember is to go through the
settings. You need to be sure that Dragon Naturally Speaking is
running
out of the system tray.
Most of the other settings are a matter of personal preference, and for
many, the default settings work fine.
There is an option to turn on screen reader menus. Be sure that option
is
checked.
There is also a section to assign hotkeys. I do not particularly like
the
default hotkeys. I rarely use the "wake-up" and "go to sleep"
commands.
I usually turn the microphone on and off with a hotkey, in my case,
shift
plus F-11.
Where you encounter words that Dragon does not understand, be sure to
highlight the word or phrase. Then, say "correct that." This should
open
up a dialogue box. The first item in the dialog box is an edit box.
There, you can type in the correct spelling of the word that Dragon
messed
up. If you hit tab on the edit box, you will be presented with a list
of
choices. You can arrow down to the proper choice and hit enter, or you
can simply say "choose one" or "choose three" or whatever the item you
want to select is listed as.
I like to use the list when it works; however, for strange proper
names,
Dragon probably won't be able to suggest anything helpful. Then, when
you
type in the word, you can either just press enter or preferably, you
should tab over to training. To start training, say the word, and then
press on the "done" button.
Dragon will remember your word, even if it is a really strange one.
Remember, you can get help. Probably the easiest to remember is, "what
can I say." I think you can also say "show me a list of commands" or
"show me help."
Use the Jaws task switching key, shift plus F-10. The Dragon Side-Bar
will show up. You can also just say "Dragon Side Bar," and that will
bring it up. I know because while I was dictating it just now, I
triggered the Dragon Side Bar.
The help facility is a kind of HTML display, and it works very well
with
Jaws.
I am sure others will have additional tips, but this should get you
started.
By the way, I dictated this using Dragon Naturally Speaking.

-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of jeff worthington
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 4:48 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

So, Just got Dragon for my birthday, Love my mom, and I'm geting it
out of the box. Just 2 questions. 1, do I need sighted help to instal
it with JFWS? and 2 is there anything I should know like anything to
charge or conect first, anything at all that could effect the
instalation? Doing it on my laptop because the desktop is geting
fixed. Thank you all and, seems real impresive what Dragon can do,
this will be great.

On 12/20/11, Peter Holdstock <ptrholdstock@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, I would suggest people try their onboard soundcards before going
out
and
buying new ones as most laptops these days use either Intel or Realtek
audio
cards which have certainly worked fine for me. The headset is the main
thing. I'm not sure what mine is but if I find out I'll pass it on. It
works
amazingly well out of the box. If you've got an Iphone you can even
use
that
as the microphone and that works very well also.

peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 11:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

Ed,

Very impressive! If I ever start getting arthritis, I'll consider this
seriously.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay
Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 14:44
Subject: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133


Hello everyone:
This message is being dictated using Dragon Naturally Speaking. I
promised
everyone that I would post a message as soon as I had fully installed
Dragon
Naturally Speaking.
I did absolutely no training. This is version 11.5, and I am amazed
with
its accuracy. In fact, I am dictating this e-mail message using
Naturally
Speaking.
Here are some tips:
first, if you are using a laptop, your built in sound card is probably
an
adequate. I would encourage you to use a USB sound card.
Second, in order to keep the Dragon Toolbar out of the way, under
"options,"
be sure to put Naturally Speaking in the system tray.
Third, under Options, be sure to go to the hotkeys tab. There, create
a
set
of hotkeys that makes sense to you.
For those of you who are looking for a dictation solution, I highly
recommend Dragon Naturally Speaking.
Just so you know, I made absolutely no edits to this e-mail message.


I. Edward Marquette
Direct Dial: 816.502.4646
Mobile: 816.812.0088
Google Voice: 408.692.5640
Facsimile: 816.960.0041
Kutak Rock LLP
1010 Grand Boulevard
Suite 500
Kansas City, MO 64106
ed.marquette@kutakrock.com




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Peter Holdstock <ptrholdstock@...>
 

Hi, to read the training you do have to use the jaws cursor I seem to recall. I didn't have any problems with the registration but I can't remember what was involved. JAWS won't read back commands as you make them or read text without you first selecting the text using dragon. It works great once you get used to it.

Peter

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: jeff worthington
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2012 2:39 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

Major issue with dragon and JAWs. Can't read training dragon, Can't
find any setings, can't regester product as it says something about
the scedualer not set right, Should I remove dragon and reinstal? Jaws
doesn't seem to be working with it. It's Jaws 13 and Dragon 11.5, Any
help would be great. Thank you all and happy new year to everyone and
thank you for all your help last year.

On 1/1/12, BHAVESH <charmingbhavesh@gmail.com> wrote:
Hay folks,

Happy 2012!
coming to the point, can anyone point me to a good text/audio tutorial
for how to use dragg and naturally speaking?
Thanks and regards,
Bhavesh.

On 1/1/12, Marquette, Ed <Ed.Marquette@kutakrock.com> wrote:
It used to, but it has been a long time.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of RJ Sandefur
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 7:25 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

Does it come on a CD? RJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 8:11 PM
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133


Been so long since I used it that I doubt it will work. I have not used
it since JAWS 7. Plus, I don't think I have the materials any longer.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]

On Behalf Of RJ Sandefur
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 6:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

Are you keeping your j-say? RJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 7:31 PM
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133


I'm using the Professional, but I doubt that is required. It was
required
when I used J_Say, which is the only reason I have the Professional
version.
Of course, I'm not using J_Say any more.
Please check first, but I think that if you get the Preferred, you will
get to use what you paid as an upgrade to the Professional version.
Plus, once you are on the Nuance mailing list, you get contacted for
"special" deals, and I've known people who upgraded for a fraction of
the
cost using a Nuance "special offer."


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of tcivi31
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 5:26 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

I would like to try the Dragon. Which version would be the one for my
purposes? Home, Preferred, or Professional and what version number?
Would
be using it with MS Word and E Mail along with Jaws version 13.
Thanks, Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 12:07 AM
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133


Hello:
Assuming you are installing this on your own machine and do not have to
worry about an information technology department's oppressive security
settings, everything should be pretty straightforward.
Sighted assistance is not necessary; however, it could be a comfort.
You
will be asked to identify your sound system. Dragon will help, but you
should know something about your system.
Peter seems to have had good luck with the built in sound facility on
his
laptop. I have never been able to get a built-in sound system on a
laptop
to work; however, I have used nothing but ThinkPad laptops for the past
15
years. They are good machines, but this is not my choice.
Be sure to position the headset microphone properly. It should be in
front of your mouth and about one inch away. A little variation
doesn't
matter, but if you have a swivel boom and the microphone is on top of
your
head, the results will be disastrous.
You will be asked to check the volume of your sound system. In that
step
of the installation, it really does not matter what you say. You can
recite a nursery rhyme.
In the next step in the installation, the sound systems quality is
checked. There, it is probably better to read what is on the screen.
For
this, you will need to use the JAWS cursor. The text is only about two
sentences. So, this is not a big deal.
By far, the most important thing to remember is to go through the
settings. You need to be sure that Dragon Naturally Speaking is
running
out of the system tray.
Most of the other settings are a matter of personal preference, and for
many, the default settings work fine.
There is an option to turn on screen reader menus. Be sure that option
is
checked.
There is also a section to assign hotkeys. I do not particularly like
the
default hotkeys. I rarely use the "wake-up" and "go to sleep"
commands.
I usually turn the microphone on and off with a hotkey, in my case,
shift
plus F-11.
Where you encounter words that Dragon does not understand, be sure to
highlight the word or phrase. Then, say "correct that." This should
open
up a dialogue box. The first item in the dialog box is an edit box.
There, you can type in the correct spelling of the word that Dragon
messed
up. If you hit tab on the edit box, you will be presented with a list
of
choices. You can arrow down to the proper choice and hit enter, or you
can simply say "choose one" or "choose three" or whatever the item you
want to select is listed as.
I like to use the list when it works; however, for strange proper
names,
Dragon probably won't be able to suggest anything helpful. Then, when
you
type in the word, you can either just press enter or preferably, you
should tab over to training. To start training, say the word, and then
press on the "done" button.
Dragon will remember your word, even if it is a really strange one.
Remember, you can get help. Probably the easiest to remember is, "what
can I say." I think you can also say "show me a list of commands" or
"show me help."
Use the Jaws task switching key, shift plus F-10. The Dragon Side-Bar
will show up. You can also just say "Dragon Side Bar," and that will
bring it up. I know because while I was dictating it just now, I
triggered the Dragon Side Bar.
The help facility is a kind of HTML display, and it works very well
with
Jaws.
I am sure others will have additional tips, but this should get you
started.
By the way, I dictated this using Dragon Naturally Speaking.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of jeff worthington
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 4:48 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

So, Just got Dragon for my birthday, Love my mom, and I'm geting it
out of the box. Just 2 questions. 1, do I need sighted help to instal
it with JFWS? and 2 is there anything I should know like anything to
charge or conect first, anything at all that could effect the
instalation? Doing it on my laptop because the desktop is geting
fixed. Thank you all and, seems real impresive what Dragon can do,
this will be great.

On 12/20/11, Peter Holdstock <ptrholdstock@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, I would suggest people try their onboard soundcards before going
out
and
buying new ones as most laptops these days use either Intel or Realtek
audio
cards which have certainly worked fine for me. The headset is the main
thing. I'm not sure what mine is but if I find out I'll pass it on. It
works
amazingly well out of the box. If you've got an Iphone you can even
use
that
as the microphone and that works very well also.

peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 11:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

Ed,

Very impressive! If I ever start getting arthritis, I'll consider this
seriously.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay
Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 14:44
Subject: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133


Hello everyone:
This message is being dictated using Dragon Naturally Speaking. I
promised
everyone that I would post a message as soon as I had fully installed
Dragon
Naturally Speaking.
I did absolutely no training. This is version 11.5, and I am amazed
with
its accuracy. In fact, I am dictating this e-mail message using
Naturally
Speaking.
Here are some tips:
first, if you are using a laptop, your built in sound card is probably
an
adequate. I would encourage you to use a USB sound card.
Second, in order to keep the Dragon Toolbar out of the way, under
"options,"
be sure to put Naturally Speaking in the system tray.
Third, under Options, be sure to go to the hotkeys tab. There, create
a
set
of hotkeys that makes sense to you.
For those of you who are looking for a dictation solution, I highly
recommend Dragon Naturally Speaking.
Just so you know, I made absolutely no edits to this e-mail message.


I. Edward Marquette
Direct Dial: 816.502.4646
Mobile: 816.812.0088
Google Voice: 408.692.5640
Facsimile: 816.960.0041
Kutak Rock LLP
1010 Grand Boulevard
Suite 500
Kansas City, MO 64106
ed.marquette@kutakrock.com




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ADVICE
IS NOT INTENDED OR WRITTEN TO BE USED,
AND CANNOT BE USED, BY A TAXPAYER FOR THE PURPOSE OF AVOIDING
PENALTIES
UNDER THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE.
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