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Dondi
Hello,
Does anyone have any opinions about this new JAWS version 13? Is this a winner and considered a must have? zidnod -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20111027/32d556dc/attachment.html>
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Loreal Lavigna <Llavigna2@...>
I would highly recommend this, yes!!! I currently am a JAWS user and
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upgraded my SMA about 2 years ago . I have the latest build of JAWS 13 that was released and would highly recommend it especially for its OCR feature (new to this version only!) Loreal
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dondi Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 8:00 AM To: JAWS mailing list Subject: JAWS 13 Hello, Does anyone have any opinions about this new JAWS version 13? Is this a winner and considered a must have? zidnod -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201110 27/32d556dc/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Dave...
Opinions...
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1. The JAWS 13 release version is a bit unstable, compared to the last JAWS 13 beta before release. A couple lockups, and one stuttering crash. Never had a stuttering crash with JAWS 12. 2. Notice that when closing the first html message after a launch of Outlook 2007 there is a very noticeable delay of 5 to 10 seconds before JAWS comes back speaking. Have noticed this also after closing the first PDF document after loading Acrobat, as well. Seems like JAWS 13 needs to do some housekeeping to get things organized. Quad core CPU, by the way. 3. Convenient OCR is pretty good, but not a panacea. I've not have any success using it to identify a single control, but it has helped when reading window/screen with some installation programs. Try it with Adobe Flash the next time it comes up. Don't bother using it for captchas. 4. Stock quotes work again. Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
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From: "Dondi" <zidnod63@gmail.com> To: "JAWS mailing list" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 04:59 Subject: JAWS 13 Hello, Does anyone have any opinions about this new JAWS version 13? Is this a winner and considered a must have? zidnod -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20111027/32d556dc/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Charles Coe
Yes I would wait awhile until FS gets the bugs out. I am sure there will be
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upgrades in this one. Charles
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dondi Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 5:00 AM To: JAWS mailing list Subject: JAWS 13 Hello, Does anyone have any opinions about this new JAWS version 13? Is this a winner and considered a must have? zidnod -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201110 27/32d556dc/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Charles Coe
Are these opinions being directed to FS as well?
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Charles
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 7:02 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS 13 Opinions... 1. The JAWS 13 release version is a bit unstable, compared to the last JAWS 13 beta before release. A couple lockups, and one stuttering crash. Never had a stuttering crash with JAWS 12. 2. Notice that when closing the first html message after a launch of Outlook 2007 there is a very noticeable delay of 5 to 10 seconds before JAWS comes back speaking. Have noticed this also after closing the first PDF document after loading Acrobat, as well. Seems like JAWS 13 needs to do some housekeeping to get things organized. Quad core CPU, by the way. 3. Convenient OCR is pretty good, but not a panacea. I've not have any success using it to identify a single control, but it has helped when reading window/screen with some installation programs. Try it with Adobe Flash the next time it comes up. Don't bother using it for captchas. 4. Stock quotes work again. Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dondi" <zidnod63@gmail.com> To: "JAWS mailing list" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 04:59 Subject: JAWS 13 Hello, Does anyone have any opinions about this new JAWS version 13? Is this a winner and considered a must have? zidnod -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201110 27/32d556dc/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Cristóbal
I am noticing that the newer versions of JFW 13 including the final release
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is having more issues with Firefox again. I even did those steps in the FS bulletin, but Firefox still goes unresponsive and still crashes with Jaws going quiet. This wasn't as much the case in the first one or two beta releases.
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Charles Coe Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 7:25 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: JAWS 13 Yes I would wait awhile until FS gets the bugs out. I am sure there will be upgrades in this one. Charles -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dondi Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 5:00 AM To: JAWS mailing list Subject: JAWS 13 Hello, Does anyone have any opinions about this new JAWS version 13? Is this a winner and considered a must have? zidnod -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201110 27/32d556dc/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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dennis <dennis.cornelison@...>
well i'm using it on two xp pro machines and am having no trouble what so ever.
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From: "CrisMunoz54" <crismunoz54@gmail.com> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 9:31 AM Subject: RE: JAWS 13 I am noticing that the newer versions of JFW 13 including the final release
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Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
i think it's worth it for the many fixes with the Office applications, the OCR function etc.
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chris hallsworth <christopherh40@...>
It's pretty good, however I have better things to spend my money on so will not upgrade or renew my SMA at this time. Let's just say the new features are what should have been in JAWS 11 or 12 instead of Research It lol. Only joking of course. But yes JAWS 13 is a pretty decent release so far for what I use it for.
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Chris Hallsworth Sent from Thunderbird
On 27/10/2011 12:59, Dondi wrote:
Hello,
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Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
At the suggestion of the list, I looked at thunder. Limited as it is,
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it may just be the little engine that could on Access. It can't read column headers, but JFW can, so bring on 13!
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Chris Smart Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 11:00 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS 13 i think it's worth it for the many fixes with the Office applications, the OCR function etc. At 07:59 AM 10/27/2011, you wrote: Hello,0111027/32d556dc/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ -------------------------------------------------- CTS MASTERING: PROFESSIONAL MIXING AND MASTERING Clear True Sound www.ctsmastering.com and be sure to "like us" on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/CTS-Mastering/139114066128698 _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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dave grossoehme
It's nice to know that I'm not the only person with a problem with Jaws 13. I co ntacted Freedom Scientific about my problem this molrn ing and had to leave a voice message. I've received no response from them yet. I can't even get Jaws 13 to go out of bata mode. I checked with them on my SMa and it's suppose to be good for 13 and 14 yet. I even tried to reinstall the program a second time to no avail. Their authorization program does no good either. Has anyone else come across this problem?
Your Friend Dave -------------------------------------------------- From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 9:01 AM To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Subject: Re: JAWS 13 Opinions...
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Dave...
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I recommend: 1. Download the new JAWS 13 from the FS web site and put on your hard drive. 2. remove JAWS 13 and go back to your previous version. Do not remove shared components. 3. Run the executable JAWS 13 file and do a clean install. JAWS 13 should automatically use your current authorization and not require you to re-authorize. Good luck, and next time don't leave a message for FS tech support -- stay on the line until you get someone. Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
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From: "dave grossoehme" <davegross1@cox.net> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 13:06 Subject: Re: JAWS 13 It's nice to know that I'm not the only person with a problem with Jaws 13. I co ntacted Freedom Scientific about my problem this molrn ing and had to leave a voice message. I've received no response from them yet. I can't even get Jaws 13 to go out of bata mode. I checked with them on my SMa and it's suppose to be good for 13 and 14 yet. I even tried to reinstall the program a second time to no avail. Their authorization program does no good either. Has anyone else come across this problem? Your Friend Dave -------------------------------------------------- From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 9:01 AM To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Subject: Re: JAWS 13 Opinions... _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Curtis Delzer
While I am reading messages in Eudora, when I delete the first message, it re-reads the last line I am focused on in the message before beginning to read the next message. If I tap the "next sentence" key while auto-reading, (the right shift key), it often stops and then goes to the next message, but it is kind of problematic when I do that.
If I change the view to Eudora's internal viewer, it matters not, still the same behavior. This did not happen in the betas, only with the full release of JAWS13. It does not happen using JAWS12 or earlier. Curtis Delzer W B 6 H E F At 06:59 AM 10/27/2011, you wrote: Hello,-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20111028/86fe8e3b/attachment.html>
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Dave...
Curtis,
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I've had a similar issue with the JAWS 13 release vs. the last beta, in Excel. Have you reported your issue to FS? Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
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From: "Curtis Delzer" <curtis@calweb.com> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 22:55 Subject: Re: JAWS 13 While I am reading messages in Eudora, when I delete the first message, it re-reads the last line I am focused on in the message before beginning to read the next message. If I tap the "next sentence" key while auto-reading, (the right shift key), it often stops and then goes to the next message, but it is kind of problematic when I do that. If I change the view to Eudora's internal viewer, it matters not, still the same behavior. This did not happen in the betas, only with the full release of JAWS13. It does not happen using JAWS12 or earlier. Curtis Delzer W B 6 H E F At 06:59 AM 10/27/2011, you wrote: Hello,-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20111028/86fe8e3b/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Curtis Delzer
I believe it has been reported, though they "don't support Eudora" since it is not updated since 2006.
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Dave...
Curtis,
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That's not surprising. Same attitude w/r MS-Access. Interestingly also the same attitude w/r XP Mode in Windows 7 -- not supported. But works with a major competitor, I've heard. Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
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From: "Curtis Delzer" <curtis@calweb.com> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 08:03 Subject: Re: JAWS 13 I believe it has been reported, though they "don't support Eudora" since it is not updated since 2006. At 07:10 AM 10/28/2011, you wrote: Curtis,-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20111028/c2fd6ff1/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Charles Coe
Hi,
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If FS does not support Eudora then why do they list it as one of the 174 applications that work with JAWS? (refer to setting center) Charles
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 9:14 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS 13 Curtis, That's not surprising. Same attitude w/r MS-Access. Interestingly also the same attitude w/r XP Mode in Windows 7 -- not supported. But works with a major competitor, I've heard. Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area ----- Original Message ----- From: "Curtis Delzer" <curtis@calweb.com> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 08:03 Subject: Re: JAWS 13 I believe it has been reported, though they "don't support Eudora" since it is not updated since 2006. At 07:10 AM 10/28/2011, you wrote: Curtis,028/86fe8e3b/attachment.html> _______________________________________________-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201110 28/c2fd6ff1/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Dave...
Well, I guess "works with" and "works correctly with" are two different
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viewpoints. Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
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From: "Charles Coe" <charlesmar@comcast.net> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 09:44 Subject: RE: JAWS 13 Hi, If FS does not support Eudora then why do they list it as one of the 174 applications that work with JAWS? (refer to setting center) Charles -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 9:14 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS 13 Curtis, That's not surprising. Same attitude w/r MS-Access. Interestingly also the same attitude w/r XP Mode in Windows 7 -- not supported. But works with a major competitor, I've heard. Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area ----- Original Message ----- From: "Curtis Delzer" <curtis@calweb.com> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 08:03 Subject: Re: JAWS 13 I believe it has been reported, though they "don't support Eudora" since it is not updated since 2006. At 07:10 AM 10/28/2011, you wrote: Curtis,028/86fe8e3b/attachment.html> _______________________________________________-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201110 28/c2fd6ff1/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Charles Coe
Hi Dave,
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Actually, under JAWS Help Eudora is listed as supported, well at least versions 6.x and 7.x while support for other versions may vary. Charles
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 9:47 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS 13 Well, I guess "works with" and "works correctly with" are two different viewpoints. Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Coe" <charlesmar@comcast.net> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 09:44 Subject: RE: JAWS 13 Hi, If FS does not support Eudora then why do they list it as one of the 174 applications that work with JAWS? (refer to setting center) Charles -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 9:14 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS 13 Curtis, That's not surprising. Same attitude w/r MS-Access. Interestingly also the same attitude w/r XP Mode in Windows 7 -- not supported. But works with a major competitor, I've heard. Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area ----- Original Message ----- From: "Curtis Delzer" <curtis@calweb.com> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 08:03 Subject: Re: JAWS 13 I believe it has been reported, though they "don't support Eudora" since it is not updated since 2006. At 07:10 AM 10/28/2011, you wrote: Curtis,028/86fe8e3b/attachment.html> _______________________________________________-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201110 28/c2fd6ff1/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
there are lots of older programs listed there; the Cakewalk Sonar item is probably out of date too.
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