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JAWS Scripting for a new application


Peter Holdstock <ptrholdstock@...>
 

Dave, I realised that. I wasn't trying to pick at your suggestion, just giving a point as to why, if John wants to benefit the most people, scripting for the remote might not help him achieve that.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 10:56 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

About $80 for the remote. John asked, and I answered. I wasn't trying to
find one that might or might not have universal appeal or usefulness. Just
know that this is one I'd personally like to have scripted.

Dave Carlson
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Holdstock" <ptrholdstock@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 11:47
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application


Do many VI people have those remotes? I don't and I'm not sure how many
others will either. How much do they cost? I'm assuming not cheap and since
the majortiy of blind people don't work I suspect uptake for this will be
low. Of course I appreciate how it will be useful to those who do have the
remotes though!

Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 7:27 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

John,

I'm struggling with the interface with Logitech Harmony Remote. It allows a
single remote to be programmed to issue a series of commands in sequence, to
simplify the control of separate audio/video components.

The initial launch, installation, and the ultimate web interface are all
very inaccessible, even with JAWS 13's OCR.

Off-list I can "loan" you the files to install, but unfortunately in order
to get it running, you need an actual Harmony remote connected via USB. A
long shot, I know, but what a great tool to have for the VI.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Martyn" <johnrobertmartyn@gmail.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 11:21
Subject: JAWS Scripting for a new application


Hi all,
While I wrap up some last minute scripting projects, I am looking for a new
application to script. I won't be doing any financial applications or office
applications this time, but any other suggestions are welcome.
I've gotten rather quick at doing this so challenges are also welcome.
John Martyn



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Dave...
 

Peter,

Grievance? Caused several other unnecessary messages? I'm just a poor sap
who believes that a question asked deserves a coherent and relevant answer,
that's all. No grievance. Clarity is essential if communication is to be
successful.

Sure, I'll drop it now, since you raised the question. And I'm a subscriber
to the Blind Tunes list and use iTunes with the Blind Tunes scripts, so am
familiar with his work on that application.

Thanks for your reply.

Dave Carlson
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Holdstock" <ptrholdstock@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 09:59
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application


Dave, the point about Iphones was not directly relevant to John's question,
but it was relevant to many list members as many of his followers have come
about due to his development of hte scripts for Itunes, many of whom have
Apple devices. I'm sure John won't just be scripting to help those people
with apple devices but for those people who may wish to switch email clients
on the basis John does his scripts for it they may find it useful to know.

It was one message to the list about something you might have thought was
not relevent and now you have caused several other unnecessary messages to
the list so why don't we just leave it there since I'm assuming that's what
your grievance was?

Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 3:12 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

Peter,

Again why is that relevant to John's question about moving WLM Contacts to
Outlook Express? Outlook Express does not run on an iPhone, and this is not
an iPhone list -- at least not yet.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Holdstock" <ptrholdstock@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 23:48
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application


Exactly what the message said. You can't move over your contacts on to the
Iphone from WLM. That will matter to a lot of people since a large number of
visually impaired people now have Iphones so it is relevent.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 3:59 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

What does the iPhone have to do with Outlook Express and WLM?

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 18:12
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application


if you use iPhone, you can not transfer your emails addresses. Only works
for outlook.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Martyn
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 8:09 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: JAWS Scripting for a new application

I could do WLM for fun while I am gearing up for the next application. I'm
personally using Outlook 2010 and I hate it so perhaps I could make the
switch. Does it import outlook express and outlook 2010 messages. What about
profiles?
Thanks, this will help me in the short run of things.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:05 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

There's a good idea John. WLM is used by many but has it's very silly querks
and it would be great if we could get an email client working perfectly well
with JAWS. I reckon it would only take you a day or so to fix everything as
much of it is stupid stuff like graphics not been labelled so the user has
to do it themselves so it will then identify unread messages, collapsed
conversations etc and the calendar function isn't ideal. Could be a quick
bit of work and create many happy JAWS users. That said I know I and many
others have repeatedly reported these issues to FS including during the JAWS
13 beta so hopefully they'll get off their backsides and fix them.

Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 9:54 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

Hello,
Does anyone know if there are scripts for the new WLM?
I'm running Windows Vista and Jaws 11 and I just installed WLM. It seems as
if it is utilizing ribbons instead of a menu bar, so I'm stuck with a
not-so-good way of changing my settings. Also the spell check is horrible
because it just tells the word that it wants to change to, not the
misspelled word.
I don't think this problem was on the old Windows Live Mail but I don't know
how to get an earlier version of WLM.
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Holdstock
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 1:21 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

I think all of us agree that John should get some recompense for his work
and I think many offered to pay something for the fnatastic Itunes scripts.
Perhaps having a paypal link on his site would be a good idea for voluntary
contributions although if he came up with realistic prices I'd be happy to
consider whether I need the product or not.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Marquette, Ed
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 8:29 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: JAWS Scripting for a new application

At the risk of starting a conflagration of controversy, I would like to
support the notion that John should get some remuneration for his hard work
-- even if he charged for scripts.
I know I would pay significantly for a set of scripts that made Google Docs
accessable, though I think that is not feasible.
The biggest single area of inaccessibility I encounter on my job is with
respect to on-line collaboration. I have clients who regularly send
invitations to go-to-meeting sessions where a document will be on the
screen, albeit from the client's computer. We will be on the phone
together, and sometimes the client will make edits he wants me to review,
and sometimes he will say simply, "Here, I'll give you control. Why don't
you revise this section on indemnification?"
I accomplish this only with the assistance of my sighted secretary. Without
her presence, I would be sunk.
Serotek has something called Accessable Event, but that really doesn't cut
it.
Again, this may be an application of limited applicability, but I run into
it all the time, and document collaboration is becoming more and more
popular. I hear ads for Go-To-Meeting almost every time I tune into XM
Radio, and note the popularity of Google Docs, not just because it is cheap,
but also because it offers collaboration.
This may simply be impossible and not everyone needs it, but if you need it,
you need it bad.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 2:11 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application


Ok, so with most of the Office applications scripted for, not to
mention iTunes, and the various parts of Windows, what else would the
masses of unemployed blind folks with limitted incomes like access to?
With the basics that most people want to use daily covered, we're probably
going to move into more specialized applications that not as many people
require. If said application is something that some of us who work or are
trying to find work need access to, maybe we should donate a little cash to
John for his hard work and probably hundreds of hours spent scripting. Just
a thought. Of course, any donations would be voluntary.





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Peter Holdstock <ptrholdstock@...>
 

Dave, the point about Iphones was not directly relevant to John's question, but it was relevant to many list members as many of his followers have come about due to his development of hte scripts for Itunes, many of whom have Apple devices. I'm sure John won't just be scripting to help those people with apple devices but for those people who may wish to switch email clients on the basis John does his scripts for it they may find it useful to know.

It was one message to the list about something you might have thought was not relevent and now you have caused several other unnecessary messages to the list so why don't we just leave it there since I'm assuming that's what your grievance was?

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 3:12 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

Peter,

Again why is that relevant to John's question about moving WLM Contacts to
Outlook Express? Outlook Express does not run on an iPhone, and this is not
an iPhone list -- at least not yet.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Holdstock" <ptrholdstock@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 23:48
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application


Exactly what the message said. You can't move over your contacts on to the
Iphone from WLM. That will matter to a lot of people since a large number of
visually impaired people now have Iphones so it is relevent.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 3:59 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

What does the iPhone have to do with Outlook Express and WLM?

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 18:12
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application


if you use iPhone, you can not transfer your emails addresses. Only works
for outlook.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Martyn
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 8:09 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: JAWS Scripting for a new application

I could do WLM for fun while I am gearing up for the next application. I'm
personally using Outlook 2010 and I hate it so perhaps I could make the
switch. Does it import outlook express and outlook 2010 messages. What about
profiles?
Thanks, this will help me in the short run of things.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:05 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

There's a good idea John. WLM is used by many but has it's very silly querks
and it would be great if we could get an email client working perfectly well
with JAWS. I reckon it would only take you a day or so to fix everything as
much of it is stupid stuff like graphics not been labelled so the user has
to do it themselves so it will then identify unread messages, collapsed
conversations etc and the calendar function isn't ideal. Could be a quick
bit of work and create many happy JAWS users. That said I know I and many
others have repeatedly reported these issues to FS including during the JAWS
13 beta so hopefully they'll get off their backsides and fix them.

Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 9:54 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

Hello,
Does anyone know if there are scripts for the new WLM?
I'm running Windows Vista and Jaws 11 and I just installed WLM. It seems as
if it is utilizing ribbons instead of a menu bar, so I'm stuck with a
not-so-good way of changing my settings. Also the spell check is horrible
because it just tells the word that it wants to change to, not the
misspelled word.
I don't think this problem was on the old Windows Live Mail but I don't know
how to get an earlier version of WLM.
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Holdstock
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 1:21 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

I think all of us agree that John should get some recompense for his work
and I think many offered to pay something for the fnatastic Itunes scripts.
Perhaps having a paypal link on his site would be a good idea for voluntary
contributions although if he came up with realistic prices I'd be happy to
consider whether I need the product or not.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Marquette, Ed
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 8:29 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: JAWS Scripting for a new application

At the risk of starting a conflagration of controversy, I would like to
support the notion that John should get some remuneration for his hard work
-- even if he charged for scripts.
I know I would pay significantly for a set of scripts that made Google Docs
accessable, though I think that is not feasible.
The biggest single area of inaccessibility I encounter on my job is with
respect to on-line collaboration. I have clients who regularly send
invitations to go-to-meeting sessions where a document will be on the
screen, albeit from the client's computer. We will be on the phone
together, and sometimes the client will make edits he wants me to review,
and sometimes he will say simply, "Here, I'll give you control. Why don't
you revise this section on indemnification?"
I accomplish this only with the assistance of my sighted secretary. Without
her presence, I would be sunk.
Serotek has something called Accessable Event, but that really doesn't cut
it.
Again, this may be an application of limited applicability, but I run into
it all the time, and document collaboration is becoming more and more
popular. I hear ads for Go-To-Meeting almost every time I tune into XM
Radio, and note the popularity of Google Docs, not just because it is cheap,
but also because it offers collaboration.
This may simply be impossible and not everyone needs it, but if you need it,
you need it bad.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 2:11 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application


Ok, so with most of the Office applications scripted for, not to
mention iTunes, and the various parts of Windows, what else would the
masses of unemployed blind folks with limitted incomes like access to?
With the basics that most people want to use daily covered, we're probably
going to move into more specialized applications that not as many people
require. If said application is something that some of us who work or are
trying to find work need access to, maybe we should donate a little cash to
John for his hard work and probably hundreds of hours spent scripting. Just
a thought. Of course, any donations would be voluntary.





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Dave...
 

Peter,

Again why is that relevant to John's question about moving WLM Contacts to
Outlook Express? Outlook Express does not run on an iPhone, and this is not
an iPhone list -- at least not yet.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Holdstock" <ptrholdstock@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 23:48
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application


Exactly what the message said. You can't move over your contacts on to the
Iphone from WLM. That will matter to a lot of people since a large number of
visually impaired people now have Iphones so it is relevent.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 3:59 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

What does the iPhone have to do with Outlook Express and WLM?

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 18:12
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application


if you use iPhone, you can not transfer your emails addresses. Only works
for outlook.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Martyn
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 8:09 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: JAWS Scripting for a new application

I could do WLM for fun while I am gearing up for the next application. I'm
personally using Outlook 2010 and I hate it so perhaps I could make the
switch. Does it import outlook express and outlook 2010 messages. What about
profiles?
Thanks, this will help me in the short run of things.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:05 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

There's a good idea John. WLM is used by many but has it's very silly querks
and it would be great if we could get an email client working perfectly well
with JAWS. I reckon it would only take you a day or so to fix everything as
much of it is stupid stuff like graphics not been labelled so the user has
to do it themselves so it will then identify unread messages, collapsed
conversations etc and the calendar function isn't ideal. Could be a quick
bit of work and create many happy JAWS users. That said I know I and many
others have repeatedly reported these issues to FS including during the JAWS
13 beta so hopefully they'll get off their backsides and fix them.

Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 9:54 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

Hello,
Does anyone know if there are scripts for the new WLM?
I'm running Windows Vista and Jaws 11 and I just installed WLM. It seems as
if it is utilizing ribbons instead of a menu bar, so I'm stuck with a
not-so-good way of changing my settings. Also the spell check is horrible
because it just tells the word that it wants to change to, not the
misspelled word.
I don't think this problem was on the old Windows Live Mail but I don't know
how to get an earlier version of WLM.
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Holdstock
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 1:21 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

I think all of us agree that John should get some recompense for his work
and I think many offered to pay something for the fnatastic Itunes scripts.
Perhaps having a paypal link on his site would be a good idea for voluntary
contributions although if he came up with realistic prices I'd be happy to
consider whether I need the product or not.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Marquette, Ed
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 8:29 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: JAWS Scripting for a new application

At the risk of starting a conflagration of controversy, I would like to
support the notion that John should get some remuneration for his hard work
-- even if he charged for scripts.
I know I would pay significantly for a set of scripts that made Google Docs
accessable, though I think that is not feasible.
The biggest single area of inaccessibility I encounter on my job is with
respect to on-line collaboration. I have clients who regularly send
invitations to go-to-meeting sessions where a document will be on the
screen, albeit from the client's computer. We will be on the phone
together, and sometimes the client will make edits he wants me to review,
and sometimes he will say simply, "Here, I'll give you control. Why don't
you revise this section on indemnification?"
I accomplish this only with the assistance of my sighted secretary. Without
her presence, I would be sunk.
Serotek has something called Accessable Event, but that really doesn't cut
it.
Again, this may be an application of limited applicability, but I run into
it all the time, and document collaboration is becoming more and more
popular. I hear ads for Go-To-Meeting almost every time I tune into XM
Radio, and note the popularity of Google Docs, not just because it is cheap,
but also because it offers collaboration.
This may simply be impossible and not everyone needs it, but if you need it,
you need it bad.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 2:11 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application


Ok, so with most of the Office applications scripted for, not to
mention iTunes, and the various parts of Windows, what else would the
masses of unemployed blind folks with limitted incomes like access to?
With the basics that most people want to use daily covered, we're probably
going to move into more specialized applications that not as many people
require. If said application is something that some of us who work or are
trying to find work need access to, maybe we should donate a little cash to
John for his hard work and probably hundreds of hours spent scripting. Just
a thought. Of course, any donations would be voluntary.





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Peter Holdstock <ptrholdstock@...>
 

Exactly what the message said. You can't move over your contacts on to the Iphone from WLM. That will matter to a lot of people since a large number of visually impaired people now have Iphones so it is relevent.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 3:59 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

What does the iPhone have to do with Outlook Express and WLM?

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 18:12
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application


if you use iPhone, you can not transfer your emails addresses. Only works
for outlook.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Martyn
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 8:09 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: JAWS Scripting for a new application

I could do WLM for fun while I am gearing up for the next application. I'm
personally using Outlook 2010 and I hate it so perhaps I could make the
switch. Does it import outlook express and outlook 2010 messages. What about
profiles?
Thanks, this will help me in the short run of things.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:05 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

There's a good idea John. WLM is used by many but has it's very silly querks
and it would be great if we could get an email client working perfectly well
with JAWS. I reckon it would only take you a day or so to fix everything as
much of it is stupid stuff like graphics not been labelled so the user has
to do it themselves so it will then identify unread messages, collapsed
conversations etc and the calendar function isn't ideal. Could be a quick
bit of work and create many happy JAWS users. That said I know I and many
others have repeatedly reported these issues to FS including during the JAWS
13 beta so hopefully they'll get off their backsides and fix them.

Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 9:54 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

Hello,
Does anyone know if there are scripts for the new WLM?
I'm running Windows Vista and Jaws 11 and I just installed WLM. It seems as
if it is utilizing ribbons instead of a menu bar, so I'm stuck with a
not-so-good way of changing my settings. Also the spell check is horrible
because it just tells the word that it wants to change to, not the
misspelled word.
I don't think this problem was on the old Windows Live Mail but I don't know
how to get an earlier version of WLM.
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Holdstock
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 1:21 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

I think all of us agree that John should get some recompense for his work
and I think many offered to pay something for the fnatastic Itunes scripts.
Perhaps having a paypal link on his site would be a good idea for voluntary
contributions although if he came up with realistic prices I'd be happy to
consider whether I need the product or not.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Marquette, Ed
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 8:29 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: JAWS Scripting for a new application

At the risk of starting a conflagration of controversy, I would like to
support the notion that John should get some remuneration for his hard work
-- even if he charged for scripts.
I know I would pay significantly for a set of scripts that made Google Docs
accessable, though I think that is not feasible.
The biggest single area of inaccessibility I encounter on my job is with
respect to on-line collaboration. I have clients who regularly send
invitations to go-to-meeting sessions where a document will be on the
screen, albeit from the client's computer. We will be on the phone
together, and sometimes the client will make edits he wants me to review,
and sometimes he will say simply, "Here, I'll give you control. Why don't
you revise this section on indemnification?"
I accomplish this only with the assistance of my sighted secretary. Without
her presence, I would be sunk.
Serotek has something called Accessable Event, but that really doesn't cut
it.
Again, this may be an application of limited applicability, but I run into
it all the time, and document collaboration is becoming more and more
popular. I hear ads for Go-To-Meeting almost every time I tune into XM
Radio, and note the popularity of Google Docs, not just because it is cheap,
but also because it offers collaboration.
This may simply be impossible and not everyone needs it, but if you need it,
you need it bad.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 2:11 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application


Ok, so with most of the Office applications scripted for, not to
mention iTunes, and the various parts of Windows, what else would the
masses of unemployed blind folks with limitted incomes like access to?
With the basics that most people want to use daily covered, we're probably
going to move into more specialized applications that not as many people
require. If said application is something that some of us who work or are
trying to find work need access to, maybe we should donate a little cash to
John for his hard work and probably hundreds of hours spent scripting. Just
a thought. Of course, any donations would be voluntary.





--------------------------------------------------
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Peter Holdstock <ptrholdstock@...>
 

Not sure sorry John. As I say WLM doesn't need huge improvements and if your last work was anything to go by you'll probably have it cleaned up in a matter of hours. If you'd find it useful for users to report the issues they have let us know.

Peter

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: John Martyn
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 2:09 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: JAWS Scripting for a new application

I could do WLM for fun while I am gearing up for the next application. I'm
personally using Outlook 2010 and I hate it so perhaps I could make the
switch. Does it import outlook express and outlook 2010 messages. What about
profiles?
Thanks, this will help me in the short run of things.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:05 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

There's a good idea John. WLM is used by many but has it's very silly querks
and it would be great if we could get an email client working perfectly well
with JAWS. I reckon it would only take you a day or so to fix everything as
much of it is stupid stuff like graphics not been labelled so the user has
to do it themselves so it will then identify unread messages, collapsed
conversations etc and the calendar function isn't ideal. Could be a quick
bit of work and create many happy JAWS users. That said I know I and many
others have repeatedly reported these issues to FS including during the JAWS
13 beta so hopefully they'll get off their backsides and fix them.

Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 9:54 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

Hello,
Does anyone know if there are scripts for the new WLM?
I'm running Windows Vista and Jaws 11 and I just installed WLM. It seems as
if it is utilizing ribbons instead of a menu bar, so I'm stuck with a
not-so-good way of changing my settings. Also the spell check is horrible
because it just tells the word that it wants to change to, not the
misspelled word.
I don't think this problem was on the old Windows Live Mail but I don't know
how to get an earlier version of WLM.
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Holdstock
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 1:21 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

I think all of us agree that John should get some recompense for his work
and I think many offered to pay something for the fnatastic Itunes scripts.
Perhaps having a paypal link on his site would be a good idea for voluntary
contributions although if he came up with realistic prices I'd be happy to
consider whether I need the product or not.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Marquette, Ed
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 8:29 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: JAWS Scripting for a new application

At the risk of starting a conflagration of controversy, I would like to
support the notion that John should get some remuneration for his hard work
-- even if he charged for scripts.
I know I would pay significantly for a set of scripts that made Google Docs
accessable, though I think that is not feasible.
The biggest single area of inaccessibility I encounter on my job is with
respect to on-line collaboration. I have clients who regularly send
invitations to go-to-meeting sessions where a document will be on the
screen, albeit from the client's computer. We will be on the phone
together, and sometimes the client will make edits he wants me to review,
and sometimes he will say simply, "Here, I'll give you control. Why don't
you revise this section on indemnification?"
I accomplish this only with the assistance of my sighted secretary. Without
her presence, I would be sunk.
Serotek has something called Accessable Event, but that really doesn't cut
it.
Again, this may be an application of limited applicability, but I run into
it all the time, and document collaboration is becoming more and more
popular. I hear ads for Go-To-Meeting almost every time I tune into XM
Radio, and note the popularity of Google Docs, not just because it is cheap,
but also because it offers collaboration.
This may simply be impossible and not everyone needs it, but if you need it,
you need it bad.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 2:11 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application


Ok, so with most of the Office applications scripted for, not to
mention iTunes, and the various parts of Windows, what else would the
masses of unemployed blind folks with limitted incomes like access to?
With the basics that most people want to use daily covered, we're probably
going to move into more specialized applications that not as many people
require. If said application is something that some of us who work or are
trying to find work need access to, maybe we should donate a little cash to
John for his hard work and probably hundreds of hours spent scripting. Just
a thought. Of course, any donations would be voluntary.





--------------------------------------------------
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www.ctsmastering.com and be sure to "like us" on Facebook:
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What does the iPhone have to do with Outlook Express and WLM?

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area

----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 18:12
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application


if you use iPhone, you can not transfer your emails addresses. Only works
for outlook.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Martyn
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 8:09 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: JAWS Scripting for a new application

I could do WLM for fun while I am gearing up for the next application. I'm
personally using Outlook 2010 and I hate it so perhaps I could make the
switch. Does it import outlook express and outlook 2010 messages. What about
profiles?
Thanks, this will help me in the short run of things.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:05 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

There's a good idea John. WLM is used by many but has it's very silly querks
and it would be great if we could get an email client working perfectly well
with JAWS. I reckon it would only take you a day or so to fix everything as
much of it is stupid stuff like graphics not been labelled so the user has
to do it themselves so it will then identify unread messages, collapsed
conversations etc and the calendar function isn't ideal. Could be a quick
bit of work and create many happy JAWS users. That said I know I and many
others have repeatedly reported these issues to FS including during the JAWS
13 beta so hopefully they'll get off their backsides and fix them.

Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 9:54 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

Hello,
Does anyone know if there are scripts for the new WLM?
I'm running Windows Vista and Jaws 11 and I just installed WLM. It seems as
if it is utilizing ribbons instead of a menu bar, so I'm stuck with a
not-so-good way of changing my settings. Also the spell check is horrible
because it just tells the word that it wants to change to, not the
misspelled word.
I don't think this problem was on the old Windows Live Mail but I don't know
how to get an earlier version of WLM.
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Holdstock
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 1:21 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

I think all of us agree that John should get some recompense for his work
and I think many offered to pay something for the fnatastic Itunes scripts.
Perhaps having a paypal link on his site would be a good idea for voluntary
contributions although if he came up with realistic prices I'd be happy to
consider whether I need the product or not.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Marquette, Ed
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 8:29 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: JAWS Scripting for a new application

At the risk of starting a conflagration of controversy, I would like to
support the notion that John should get some remuneration for his hard work
-- even if he charged for scripts.
I know I would pay significantly for a set of scripts that made Google Docs
accessable, though I think that is not feasible.
The biggest single area of inaccessibility I encounter on my job is with
respect to on-line collaboration. I have clients who regularly send
invitations to go-to-meeting sessions where a document will be on the
screen, albeit from the client's computer. We will be on the phone
together, and sometimes the client will make edits he wants me to review,
and sometimes he will say simply, "Here, I'll give you control. Why don't
you revise this section on indemnification?"
I accomplish this only with the assistance of my sighted secretary. Without
her presence, I would be sunk.
Serotek has something called Accessable Event, but that really doesn't cut
it.
Again, this may be an application of limited applicability, but I run into
it all the time, and document collaboration is becoming more and more
popular. I hear ads for Go-To-Meeting almost every time I tune into XM
Radio, and note the popularity of Google Docs, not just because it is cheap,
but also because it offers collaboration.
This may simply be impossible and not everyone needs it, but if you need it,
you need it bad.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 2:11 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application


Ok, so with most of the Office applications scripted for, not to
mention iTunes, and the various parts of Windows, what else would the
masses of unemployed blind folks with limitted incomes like access to?
With the basics that most people want to use daily covered, we're probably
going to move into more specialized applications that not as many people
require. If said application is something that some of us who work or are
trying to find work need access to, maybe we should donate a little cash to
John for his hard work and probably hundreds of hours spent scripting. Just
a thought. Of course, any donations would be voluntary.





--------------------------------------------------
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www.ctsmastering.com and be sure to "like us" on Facebook:
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Dave...
 

John,

It will import Outlook Express messages and contact, but not any rules you
may have created.

If you export Outlook 2007 to the correct format, I think it will also
import those, but have never had a reason to find out.

Dave Carlson
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----- Original Message -----
From: "John Martyn" <johnrobertmartyn@gmail.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 18:09
Subject: RE: JAWS Scripting for a new application


I could do WLM for fun while I am gearing up for the next application. I'm
personally using Outlook 2010 and I hate it so perhaps I could make the
switch. Does it import outlook express and outlook 2010 messages. What about
profiles?
Thanks, this will help me in the short run of things.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:05 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

There's a good idea John. WLM is used by many but has it's very silly querks
and it would be great if we could get an email client working perfectly well
with JAWS. I reckon it would only take you a day or so to fix everything as
much of it is stupid stuff like graphics not been labelled so the user has
to do it themselves so it will then identify unread messages, collapsed
conversations etc and the calendar function isn't ideal. Could be a quick
bit of work and create many happy JAWS users. That said I know I and many
others have repeatedly reported these issues to FS including during the JAWS
13 beta so hopefully they'll get off their backsides and fix them.

Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 9:54 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

Hello,
Does anyone know if there are scripts for the new WLM?
I'm running Windows Vista and Jaws 11 and I just installed WLM. It seems as
if it is utilizing ribbons instead of a menu bar, so I'm stuck with a
not-so-good way of changing my settings. Also the spell check is horrible
because it just tells the word that it wants to change to, not the
misspelled word.
I don't think this problem was on the old Windows Live Mail but I don't know
how to get an earlier version of WLM.
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Holdstock
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 1:21 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

I think all of us agree that John should get some recompense for his work
and I think many offered to pay something for the fnatastic Itunes scripts.
Perhaps having a paypal link on his site would be a good idea for voluntary
contributions although if he came up with realistic prices I'd be happy to
consider whether I need the product or not.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Marquette, Ed
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 8:29 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: JAWS Scripting for a new application

At the risk of starting a conflagration of controversy, I would like to
support the notion that John should get some remuneration for his hard work
-- even if he charged for scripts.
I know I would pay significantly for a set of scripts that made Google Docs
accessable, though I think that is not feasible.
The biggest single area of inaccessibility I encounter on my job is with
respect to on-line collaboration. I have clients who regularly send
invitations to go-to-meeting sessions where a document will be on the
screen, albeit from the client's computer. We will be on the phone
together, and sometimes the client will make edits he wants me to review,
and sometimes he will say simply, "Here, I'll give you control. Why don't
you revise this section on indemnification?"
I accomplish this only with the assistance of my sighted secretary. Without
her presence, I would be sunk.
Serotek has something called Accessable Event, but that really doesn't cut
it.
Again, this may be an application of limited applicability, but I run into
it all the time, and document collaboration is becoming more and more
popular. I hear ads for Go-To-Meeting almost every time I tune into XM
Radio, and note the popularity of Google Docs, not just because it is cheap,
but also because it offers collaboration.
This may simply be impossible and not everyone needs it, but if you need it,
you need it bad.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 2:11 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application


Ok, so with most of the Office applications scripted for, not to
mention iTunes, and the various parts of Windows, what else would the
masses of unemployed blind folks with limitted incomes like access to?
With the basics that most people want to use daily covered, we're probably
going to move into more specialized applications that not as many people
require. If said application is something that some of us who work or are
trying to find work need access to, maybe we should donate a little cash to
John for his hard work and probably hundreds of hours spent scripting. Just
a thought. Of course, any donations would be voluntary.





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if you use iPhone, you can not transfer your emails addresses. Only works for outlook.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Martyn
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 8:09 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: JAWS Scripting for a new application

I could do WLM for fun while I am gearing up for the next application. I'm
personally using Outlook 2010 and I hate it so perhaps I could make the
switch. Does it import outlook express and outlook 2010 messages. What about
profiles?
Thanks, this will help me in the short run of things.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:05 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

There's a good idea John. WLM is used by many but has it's very silly querks
and it would be great if we could get an email client working perfectly well
with JAWS. I reckon it would only take you a day or so to fix everything as
much of it is stupid stuff like graphics not been labelled so the user has
to do it themselves so it will then identify unread messages, collapsed
conversations etc and the calendar function isn't ideal. Could be a quick
bit of work and create many happy JAWS users. That said I know I and many
others have repeatedly reported these issues to FS including during the JAWS
13 beta so hopefully they'll get off their backsides and fix them.

Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 9:54 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

Hello,
Does anyone know if there are scripts for the new WLM?
I'm running Windows Vista and Jaws 11 and I just installed WLM. It seems as
if it is utilizing ribbons instead of a menu bar, so I'm stuck with a
not-so-good way of changing my settings. Also the spell check is horrible
because it just tells the word that it wants to change to, not the
misspelled word.
I don't think this problem was on the old Windows Live Mail but I don't know
how to get an earlier version of WLM.
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Holdstock
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 1:21 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

I think all of us agree that John should get some recompense for his work
and I think many offered to pay something for the fnatastic Itunes scripts.
Perhaps having a paypal link on his site would be a good idea for voluntary
contributions although if he came up with realistic prices I'd be happy to
consider whether I need the product or not.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Marquette, Ed
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 8:29 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: JAWS Scripting for a new application

At the risk of starting a conflagration of controversy, I would like to
support the notion that John should get some remuneration for his hard work
-- even if he charged for scripts.
I know I would pay significantly for a set of scripts that made Google Docs
accessable, though I think that is not feasible.
The biggest single area of inaccessibility I encounter on my job is with
respect to on-line collaboration. I have clients who regularly send
invitations to go-to-meeting sessions where a document will be on the
screen, albeit from the client's computer. We will be on the phone
together, and sometimes the client will make edits he wants me to review,
and sometimes he will say simply, "Here, I'll give you control. Why don't
you revise this section on indemnification?"
I accomplish this only with the assistance of my sighted secretary. Without
her presence, I would be sunk.
Serotek has something called Accessable Event, but that really doesn't cut
it.
Again, this may be an application of limited applicability, but I run into
it all the time, and document collaboration is becoming more and more
popular. I hear ads for Go-To-Meeting almost every time I tune into XM
Radio, and note the popularity of Google Docs, not just because it is cheap,
but also because it offers collaboration.
This may simply be impossible and not everyone needs it, but if you need it,
you need it bad.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 2:11 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application


Ok, so with most of the Office applications scripted for, not to
mention iTunes, and the various parts of Windows, what else would the
masses of unemployed blind folks with limitted incomes like access to?
With the basics that most people want to use daily covered, we're probably
going to move into more specialized applications that not as many people
require. If said application is something that some of us who work or are
trying to find work need access to, maybe we should donate a little cash to
John for his hard work and probably hundreds of hours spent scripting. Just
a thought. Of course, any donations would be voluntary.





--------------------------------------------------
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www.ctsmastering.com and be sure to "like us" on Facebook:
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John Martyn
 

I could do WLM for fun while I am gearing up for the next application. I'm
personally using Outlook 2010 and I hate it so perhaps I could make the
switch. Does it import outlook express and outlook 2010 messages. What about
profiles?
Thanks, this will help me in the short run of things.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:05 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

There's a good idea John. WLM is used by many but has it's very silly querks
and it would be great if we could get an email client working perfectly well
with JAWS. I reckon it would only take you a day or so to fix everything as
much of it is stupid stuff like graphics not been labelled so the user has
to do it themselves so it will then identify unread messages, collapsed
conversations etc and the calendar function isn't ideal. Could be a quick
bit of work and create many happy JAWS users. That said I know I and many
others have repeatedly reported these issues to FS including during the JAWS
13 beta so hopefully they'll get off their backsides and fix them.

Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 9:54 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

Hello,
Does anyone know if there are scripts for the new WLM?
I'm running Windows Vista and Jaws 11 and I just installed WLM. It seems as
if it is utilizing ribbons instead of a menu bar, so I'm stuck with a
not-so-good way of changing my settings. Also the spell check is horrible
because it just tells the word that it wants to change to, not the
misspelled word.
I don't think this problem was on the old Windows Live Mail but I don't know
how to get an earlier version of WLM.
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Holdstock
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 1:21 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

I think all of us agree that John should get some recompense for his work
and I think many offered to pay something for the fnatastic Itunes scripts.
Perhaps having a paypal link on his site would be a good idea for voluntary
contributions although if he came up with realistic prices I'd be happy to
consider whether I need the product or not.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Marquette, Ed
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 8:29 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: JAWS Scripting for a new application

At the risk of starting a conflagration of controversy, I would like to
support the notion that John should get some remuneration for his hard work
-- even if he charged for scripts.
I know I would pay significantly for a set of scripts that made Google Docs
accessable, though I think that is not feasible.
The biggest single area of inaccessibility I encounter on my job is with
respect to on-line collaboration. I have clients who regularly send
invitations to go-to-meeting sessions where a document will be on the
screen, albeit from the client's computer. We will be on the phone
together, and sometimes the client will make edits he wants me to review,
and sometimes he will say simply, "Here, I'll give you control. Why don't
you revise this section on indemnification?"
I accomplish this only with the assistance of my sighted secretary. Without
her presence, I would be sunk.
Serotek has something called Accessable Event, but that really doesn't cut
it.
Again, this may be an application of limited applicability, but I run into
it all the time, and document collaboration is becoming more and more
popular. I hear ads for Go-To-Meeting almost every time I tune into XM
Radio, and note the popularity of Google Docs, not just because it is cheap,
but also because it offers collaboration.
This may simply be impossible and not everyone needs it, but if you need it,
you need it bad.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 2:11 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application


Ok, so with most of the Office applications scripted for, not to
mention iTunes, and the various parts of Windows, what else would the
masses of unemployed blind folks with limitted incomes like access to?
With the basics that most people want to use daily covered, we're probably
going to move into more specialized applications that not as many people
require. If said application is something that some of us who work or are
trying to find work need access to, maybe we should donate a little cash to
John for his hard work and probably hundreds of hours spent scripting. Just
a thought. Of course, any donations would be voluntary.





--------------------------------------------------
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www.ctsmastering.com and be sure to "like us" on Facebook:
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John Martyn
 

Not really, I have a slew of tools I have scripted for myself and use the
JAWS cursor to move about to see what's there.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 2:35 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

Do you need to be sighted to be able to script efficiently? I'm assuming it
depends on what level the scripting is required i.e. at work we use an
application which requires every form field on the scrreen to be input
including it's location, size, type etc and that's the more basic stuff. I'm
assuming to be able to do that you would physically need to be able to see
the screen?

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Debbie Kessler
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 9:50 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

This is an area that Rehab should have looked into a long time ago; funding
for small businesses to get their proprietary programs scripted. A lot of
money has been spent through schools to have people trained only to have
much unaccessible because of specialty programs.
Debbie, Chaz & Jessie
e-mail: jessesgirl@earthlink.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Smart" <csmart8@cogeco.ca>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application



Ok, so with most of the Office applications scripted for, not to
mention iTunes, and the various parts of Windows, what else would
the masses of unemployed blind folks with limitted incomes like
access to?
With the basics that most people want to use daily covered, we're
probably going to move into more specialized applications that not
as many people require. If said application is something that some
of us who work or are trying to find work need access to, maybe we
should donate a little cash to John for his hard work and probably
hundreds of hours spent scripting. Just a thought. Of course, any
donations would be voluntary.





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Peter Holdstock <ptrholdstock@...>
 

Cheers John. Even you just talking to them about it might embaress them a little enough to get them to make the changes.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: John Martyn
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 9:06 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: JAWS Scripting for a new application

That is a great suggestion. I'll talk to FS about this.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:05 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

There's a good idea John. WLM is used by many but has it's very silly querks
and it would be great if we could get an email client working perfectly well
with JAWS. I reckon it would only take you a day or so to fix everything as
much of it is stupid stuff like graphics not been labelled so the user has
to do it themselves so it will then identify unread messages, collapsed
conversations etc and the calendar function isn't ideal. Could be a quick
bit of work and create many happy JAWS users. That said I know I and many
others have repeatedly reported these issues to FS including during the JAWS
13 beta so hopefully they'll get off their backsides and fix them.

Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 9:54 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

Hello,
Does anyone know if there are scripts for the new WLM?
I'm running Windows Vista and Jaws 11 and I just installed WLM. It seems as
if it is utilizing ribbons instead of a menu bar, so I'm stuck with a
not-so-good way of changing my settings. Also the spell check is horrible
because it just tells the word that it wants to change to, not the
misspelled word.
I don't think this problem was on the old Windows Live Mail but I don't know
how to get an earlier version of WLM.
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Holdstock
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 1:21 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

I think all of us agree that John should get some recompense for his work
and I think many offered to pay something for the fnatastic Itunes scripts.
Perhaps having a paypal link on his site would be a good idea for voluntary
contributions although if he came up with realistic prices I'd be happy to
consider whether I need the product or not.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Marquette, Ed
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 8:29 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: JAWS Scripting for a new application

At the risk of starting a conflagration of controversy, I would like to
support the notion that John should get some remuneration for his hard work
-- even if he charged for scripts.
I know I would pay significantly for a set of scripts that made Google Docs
accessable, though I think that is not feasible.
The biggest single area of inaccessibility I encounter on my job is with
respect to on-line collaboration. I have clients who regularly send
invitations to go-to-meeting sessions where a document will be on the
screen, albeit from the client's computer. We will be on the phone
together, and sometimes the client will make edits he wants me to review,
and sometimes he will say simply, "Here, I'll give you control. Why don't
you revise this section on indemnification?"
I accomplish this only with the assistance of my sighted secretary. Without
her presence, I would be sunk.
Serotek has something called Accessable Event, but that really doesn't cut
it.
Again, this may be an application of limited applicability, but I run into
it all the time, and document collaboration is becoming more and more
popular. I hear ads for Go-To-Meeting almost every time I tune into XM
Radio, and note the popularity of Google Docs, not just because it is cheap,
but also because it offers collaboration.
This may simply be impossible and not everyone needs it, but if you need it,
you need it bad.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 2:11 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application


Ok, so with most of the Office applications scripted for, not to
mention iTunes, and the various parts of Windows, what else would the
masses of unemployed blind folks with limitted incomes like access to?
With the basics that most people want to use daily covered, we're probably
going to move into more specialized applications that not as many people
require. If said application is something that some of us who work or are
trying to find work need access to, maybe we should donate a little cash to
John for his hard work and probably hundreds of hours spent scripting. Just
a thought. Of course, any donations would be voluntary.





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Peter Holdstock <ptrholdstock@...>
 

Do you need to be sighted to be able to script efficiently? I'm assuming it depends on what level the scripting is required i.e. at work we use an application which requires every form field on the scrreen to be input including it's location, size, type etc and that's the more basic stuff. I'm assuming to be able to do that you would physically need to be able to see the screen?

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Debbie Kessler
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 9:50 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

This is an area that Rehab should have looked into a long time ago; funding
for small businesses to get their proprietary programs scripted. A lot of
money has been spent through schools to have people trained only to have
much unaccessible because of specialty programs.
Debbie, Chaz & Jessie
e-mail: jessesgirl@earthlink.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Smart" <csmart8@cogeco.ca>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application



Ok, so with most of the Office applications scripted for, not to
mention iTunes, and the various parts of Windows, what else would
the masses of unemployed blind folks with limitted incomes like
access to?
With the basics that most people want to use daily covered, we're
probably going to move into more specialized applications that not
as many people require. If said application is something that some
of us who work or are trying to find work need access to, maybe we
should donate a little cash to John for his hard work and probably
hundreds of hours spent scripting. Just a thought. Of course, any
donations would be voluntary.





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This is an area that Rehab should have looked into a long time ago; funding
for small businesses to get their proprietary programs scripted. A lot of
money has been spent through schools to have people trained only to have
much unaccessible because of specialty programs.
Debbie, Chaz & Jessie
e-mail: jessesgirl@earthlink.net

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Smart" <csmart8@cogeco.ca>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application



Ok, so with most of the Office applications scripted for, not to
mention iTunes, and the various parts of Windows, what else would
the masses of unemployed blind folks with limitted incomes like
access to?
With the basics that most people want to use daily covered, we're
probably going to move into more specialized applications that not
as many people require. If said application is something that some
of us who work or are trying to find work need access to, maybe we
should donate a little cash to John for his hard work and probably
hundreds of hours spent scripting. Just a thought. Of course, any
donations would be voluntary.





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John Martyn
 

That is a great suggestion. I'll talk to FS about this.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:05 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

There's a good idea John. WLM is used by many but has it's very silly querks
and it would be great if we could get an email client working perfectly well
with JAWS. I reckon it would only take you a day or so to fix everything as
much of it is stupid stuff like graphics not been labelled so the user has
to do it themselves so it will then identify unread messages, collapsed
conversations etc and the calendar function isn't ideal. Could be a quick
bit of work and create many happy JAWS users. That said I know I and many
others have repeatedly reported these issues to FS including during the JAWS
13 beta so hopefully they'll get off their backsides and fix them.

Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 9:54 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

Hello,
Does anyone know if there are scripts for the new WLM?
I'm running Windows Vista and Jaws 11 and I just installed WLM. It seems as
if it is utilizing ribbons instead of a menu bar, so I'm stuck with a
not-so-good way of changing my settings. Also the spell check is horrible
because it just tells the word that it wants to change to, not the
misspelled word.
I don't think this problem was on the old Windows Live Mail but I don't know
how to get an earlier version of WLM.
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Holdstock
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 1:21 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

I think all of us agree that John should get some recompense for his work
and I think many offered to pay something for the fnatastic Itunes scripts.
Perhaps having a paypal link on his site would be a good idea for voluntary
contributions although if he came up with realistic prices I'd be happy to
consider whether I need the product or not.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Marquette, Ed
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 8:29 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: JAWS Scripting for a new application

At the risk of starting a conflagration of controversy, I would like to
support the notion that John should get some remuneration for his hard work
-- even if he charged for scripts.
I know I would pay significantly for a set of scripts that made Google Docs
accessable, though I think that is not feasible.
The biggest single area of inaccessibility I encounter on my job is with
respect to on-line collaboration. I have clients who regularly send
invitations to go-to-meeting sessions where a document will be on the
screen, albeit from the client's computer. We will be on the phone
together, and sometimes the client will make edits he wants me to review,
and sometimes he will say simply, "Here, I'll give you control. Why don't
you revise this section on indemnification?"
I accomplish this only with the assistance of my sighted secretary. Without
her presence, I would be sunk.
Serotek has something called Accessable Event, but that really doesn't cut
it.
Again, this may be an application of limited applicability, but I run into
it all the time, and document collaboration is becoming more and more
popular. I hear ads for Go-To-Meeting almost every time I tune into XM
Radio, and note the popularity of Google Docs, not just because it is cheap,
but also because it offers collaboration.
This may simply be impossible and not everyone needs it, but if you need it,
you need it bad.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 2:11 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application


Ok, so with most of the Office applications scripted for, not to
mention iTunes, and the various parts of Windows, what else would the
masses of unemployed blind folks with limitted incomes like access to?
With the basics that most people want to use daily covered, we're probably
going to move into more specialized applications that not as many people
require. If said application is something that some of us who work or are
trying to find work need access to, maybe we should donate a little cash to
John for his hard work and probably hundreds of hours spent scripting. Just
a thought. Of course, any donations would be voluntary.





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Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
 

Hi Dave.
Ok, your point is well-taken. I guess I'll amend my comment to say that if you were going to learn a first programming language, Jaws scripting would be an easy one, compared to say C, especially with the Script manager and other things helping you generate the necessary code.

Chris






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C Cleaner is already fully accessible!

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: kaveinthran
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 5:25 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

hi sir,

You can try adobe audition or CCleaner

or, even audacity

On 10/24/2011 2:21 AM, John Martyn wrote:
Hi all,
While I wrap up some last minute scripting projects, I am looking for a new
application to script. I won't be doing any financial applications or office
applications this time, but any other suggestions are welcome.
I've gotten rather quick at doing this so challenges are also welcome.
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Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonboy13@...>
 

Oh, thank you! I had no idea about that command!
Jaws doesn't look more complicated than scripting for any other application.
You just need to have a deep understanding of Jaws and a good understanding of the application you want to script.
Then you have to grasp the fact that scripting is not programing, because you aren’t creating anything new. You are just telling Jaws what to do. Then you need to read and memorize all the formatting issues you have to cover in your lines of script, then you have to have your reference guide up every time you want to script because I've herd Jaws is harder than normal to write. (you have to learn what "include", "let" "string" "Function Retrieve", "Handle" "int" and all those single words or abbreviations stand for and what they do.
If you are willing to do that than scripting shouldn't be too difficult.
Thanks,

P.S. Does anyone know if Jaws has a record command function? So you can create strings of commands Jaws will execute with an alias? Or I think that's called macroing or Aliasing.
Because that would be the only time I'd ever feel worth learning another scripting language.
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Scrimenti
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 9:35 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

Perhaps I'm overestimating the difficulty, but I certainly wouldn't want to
do scripting without knowing programming. If you want to know what it's
like, hit jaws key plus zero in a scripted application to read the scripts.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Smart" <csmart8@cogeco.ca>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application


Go into Start Menu, Jaws, Explore Jaws, and press ENTER on Explore the Manuals. That will open a folder. Press ENTER on.
No you don't need a programming background to get started.
Chris

At 02:51 AM 10/24/2011, you wrote:
Hello,
From where we can get these scripts?
Can anyone work on, with the scripts to make an application accessible?
How can I learnthis, so that I can do scripting?
Does scripting require any programming background?
Thank you in advance.

----- Original Message ----- From: "kaveinthran" <kavein2211@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 9:55 AM
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application


hi sir,

You can try adobe audition or CCleaner

or, even audacity

On 10/24/2011 2:21 AM, John Martyn wrote:
Hi all,
While I wrap up some last minute scripting projects, I am looking for a new
application to script. I won't be doing any financial applications or office
applications this time, but any other suggestions are welcome.
I've gotten rather quick at doing this so challenges are also welcome.
John Martyn



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Keystrokes


Internet Explorer Keystrokes
Note: The JAWS help system includes detailed information about using Internet Explorer. In your browser, press and hold INSERT and press F1 twice quickly. Once JAWS help is open, press F6 to move to the help topic window.


General
Go Back a Page
ALT+LEFT ARROW or BACKSPACE

Go Forward a Page
ALT+RIGHT ARROW

Go to Home Page
ALT+HOME

Read Address Bar
INSERT+A

Next Link
TAB

Prior Link
SHIFT+TAB

Open Link
ENTER

List Frames
INSERT+F9

List Links
INSERT+F7

List Headings
INSERT+F6

Heading at Level
1 through 6

Personalized Web Settings
SHIFT+INSERT+V

Virtual HTML Features
INSERT+F3

Activate Mouse Over
CTRL+INSERT+ENTER

Move to Next Clickable Element
SLASH

Move to Previous Clickable Element
SHIFT+SLASH

Select Clickable Element
INSERT+CTRL+SLASH

Select a Mouse Over Element
INSERT+WINDOWS KEY+SEMICOLON

JAWS Find Next and Previous F3 and SHIFT+F3 (Internet Explorer only)

Assign Custom Label
CTRL+INSERT+TAB

Move to Next Landmark
SEMICOLON

Move to Previous Landmark
SHIFT+SEMICOLON

Select a Landmark
INSERT+CTRL+SEMICOLON

ARIA Drag-and-Drop
WINDOWS Key+CTRL+EQUALS

ARIA Live Region Text Filter
WINDOWS Key+CTRL+DASH


Tabbed Browsing Quick Keys
Open a New Tab
CTRL+T

Open a New Tab from the Address Bar
ALT+ENTER (on address bar)

Open a New Tab from the Toolbar Search Box
ALT+ENTER (on address bar)

View List of Open Tabs
CTRL+SHIFT+Q

Toggle Quick Tabs (Thumbnail View)
CTRL+Q

Switch to the Next Tab
CTRL+TAB
Switch to the Previous Tab
CTRL+SHIFT+TAB

Switch to a Specific Tab Number
CTRL+n, where n is a digit from 1 through 8

Switch to Last Tab
CTRL+9

Close Current Tab
CTRL+W or CTRL+F4

Close All Tabs
ALT+F4

Close Other Tabs
CTRL+ALT+F4

Open Links in a New Tab in the Background
CTRL+ENTER

Open Links in a New Tab in the Foreground
CTRL+SHIFT+ENTER

Opens and places focus on the Feeds tree view
CTRL+J
Subscribe to Feeds or Web Slices
ALT+J (Internet Explorer 8 or later for Web Slices)


Navigation Quick Keys
Tip: If you hold down SHIFT before pressing one of the following Navigation Quick Keys, you can move to the previous instance of that element, for example, press A to move to the next anchor, press SHIFT+A to move to the previous anchor. In addition, if you hold down CTRL+INSERT while pressing keystrokes with an asterisk (*) next to them, JAWS displays a list of those elements on the page.

Next Anchor
A*

Next Button
B*

Next Combo Box
C*

Next Different Element
D

Next Edit Box
E*

Next Form Control
F

Next Graphic
G*

Next Heading
H

Next Item in a List
I

Jump to Line
J*

Next PlaceMarker
K*

Next List
L*

Next Frame
M

Skip Past Links
N

Next Object Tag
O

Next Paragraph
P*

Next Quote
Q*

Next Radio Button
R*

Next Same Element
S

Next Table
T*

Next Unvisited Link
U

Next Visited Link
V

Next Check Box
X*

Next Division
Z*

Next Element
SHIFT+PERIOD

Previous Element
SHIFT+COMMA

Forms
Enter Forms Mode
ENTER

Exit Forms Mode
NUM PAD PLUS

List Form Fields
INSERT+F5

First Form Field
INSERT+CTRL+HOME

Next Form Field
F

Prior Form Field
SHIFT+F

Last Form Field
INSERT+CTRL+END

Next Button
B

Prior Button
SHIFT+B

List Buttons
CTRL+INSERT+B

Next Combo Box
C

Prior Combo Box
SHIFT+C

List Combo Boxes
CTRL+INSERT+C

Next Edit Box E
Prior Edit Box SHIFT+E

List Edit Boxes
CTRL+INSERT+E

Next Radio Button
R

Prior Radio Button
SHIFT+R

List Radio Buttons
CTRL+INSERT+R

Next Check Box
X

Prior Check Box
SHIFT+X

List Check Boxes
CTRL+INSERT+X


Tables
Next Table
T

Prior Table
SHIFT+T

Select Table
F8

Next Row
WINDOWS KEY+ALT+DOWN ARROW

Prior Row
WINDOWS KEY+ALT+UP ARROW

Read Row
WINDOWS KEY+COMMA or WINDOWS KEY+NUM PAD 5

Next Column
WINDOWS KEY+ALT+RIGHT ARROW

Prior Column
WINDOWS KEY+ALT+LEFT ARROW

Read Column
WINDOWS KEY+PERIOD

Next Cell in Row
ALT+CTRL+RIGHT ARROW

Prior Cell in Row
ALT+CTRL+LEFT ARROW

Cell Below in Column
ALT+CTRL+DOWN ARROW

Cell Above in Column
ALT+CTRL+UP ARROW

Jump to Table Cell
CTRL+WINDOWS KEY+J
Return to Previous Cell
CTRL+WINDOWS KEY+SHIFT+J

PlaceMarkers
Set Temporary PlaceMarker (Permanent Marker for Word)
CTRL+WINDOWS Key+K

Add, Delete, Edit, or Rename Permanent PlaceMarkers
CTRL+SHIFT+K

Move to the Next or Prior PlaceMarker
K or SHIFT+K

Read Text at PlaceMarkers 1 through 4
Number Row Keys 7 through 0

Move to PlaceMarker 1 through 4
SHIFT+ number row keys 7 through 0

Return to PlaceMarker in Word
WINDOWS Key+K

Select Text from PlaceMarker to Cursor Position in Word
INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by M


Frames
Next Frame
M

Prior Frame
SHIFT+M

List Frames
INSERT+F9


Elements
Next Same Element
S

Prior Same Element
SHIFT+S

Next Different Element
D

Prior Different Element
SHIFT+D

Next Element
SHIFT+PERIOD

Prior Element
SHIFT+COMMA

Select Entire Element
F8

Display Entire Element
SHIFT+INSERT+F1

Display Detailed Element Information
CTRL+SHIFT+INSERT+F1

Activate Mouse Over
INSERT+CTRL+ENTER


Desktop Keystrokes
For Reading Text
Say Character
NUM PAD 5

Say Character Phonetically
NUM PAD 5 twice quickly

Say Prior Character
LEFT ARROW

Say Next Character
RIGHT ARROW

Say Word
INSERT+NUM PAD 5

Spell Word
INSERT+NUM PAD 5 twice quickly

Say Prior Word
INSERT+LEFT ARROW

Say Next Word
INSERT+RIGHT ARROW

Say Line
INSERT+UP ARROW

Spell Line
INSERT+UP ARROW twice quickly

Say Prior Line
UP ARROW

Say Next Line
DOWN ARROW

Say Sentence
ALT+NUM PAD 5

Say Prior Sentence
ALT+UP ARROW

Say Next Sentence
ALT+DOWN ARROW

Say Paragraph
CTRL+NUM PAD 5

Say Prior Paragraph
CTRL+UP ARROW

Say Next Paragraph
CTRL+DOWN ARROW

Say to Cursor
INSERT+HOME

Say from Cursor
INSERT+PAGE UP

Say All
INSERT+DOWN ARROW

Rewind During Say All
LEFT ARROW

Fast Forward During Say All
RIGHT ARROW

Say Color
INSERT+5 on the numbers row

Increase Voice Rate During Say All
PAGE UP

Decrease Voice Rate During Say All
PAGE DOWN

Increase Voice Rate When Not in Say All
ALT+CTRL+PAGE UP

Decrease Voice Rate When Not in Say All
ALT+CTRL+PAGE DOWN

Screen Refresh
INSERT+ESC

Start Skim Reading
CTRL+INSERT+DOWN ARROW

Change Skim Reading Preferences
CTRL+SHIFT+INSERT+DOWN ARROW

Display Skim Reading Summary
INSERT+WINDOWS KEY+DOWN ARROW

Toggle Speech On and Off
INSERT+SPACEBAR, followed by S


Informational
Interrupt Speech
CTRL

Say Font
INSERT+F

Say Window Title
INSERT+T

Say Window Prompt and Text
INSERT+TAB

JAWS Find
CTRL+INSERT+F

JAWS Find Next
INSERT+F3

JAWS Find Previous
INSERT+SHIFT+F3

Say Top Line of Window
INSERT+END

Say Bottom Line of Window
INSERT+PAGE DOWN

Say Selected Text
INSERT+SHIFT+ DOWN ARROW

Get Application Version
CTRL+INSERT+V


For Cursors and Mouse
PC Cursor
NUM PAD PLUS

JAWS Cursor
NUM PAD MINUS

Route PC Cursor to JAWS Cursor
INSERT+NUM PAD PLUS

Route JAWS Cursor to PC Cursor
INSERT+NUM PAD MINUS

Left Mouse Button
NUM PAD SLASH

Right Mouse Button
NUM PAD STAR

Drag and Drop
CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH

Restrict JAWS Cursor
INSERT+R


For Dialog Boxes
Say Default Button of Dialog Box
INSERT+E

Read Window from Top to Bottom
INSERT+B

Read Word in Context
INSERT+C

Say Current Control Hot Key
SHIFT+NUM PAD 5

Open Combo Box
ALT+DOWN ARROW

Close Combo Box
ALT+UP ARROW

Announce Progress Bar Status
INSERT+TAB


For Help
Context Sensitive Help
INSERT+F1

Keyboard Help
INSERT+1

JAWS Help for Applications
INSERT+F1 twice quickly

Hot Key Help
INSERT+H

Windows Key Help
INSERT+W


Miscellaneous
JAWS Window
INSERT+J

Refresh Screen
INSERT+ESC

Adjust JAWS Options
INSERT+V

Run JAWS Manager
INSERT+F2

Shut Down JAWS
INSERT+F4

Window List Dialog
INSERT+F10

Select a System Tray Icon Dialog
INSERT+F11

Say System Time
INSERT+F12

Graphics Labeler
INSERT+G

Auto Graphics Labeler
CTRL+INSERT+G

Pass Key Through
INSERT+3 on the numbers row

Virtualize Window
ALT+INSERT+W

Virtualize Current Control
ALT+SHIFT+INSERT+W

Select Scheme
ALT+INSERT+S

Select Language
CTRL+WINDOWS KEY+L

Select Synthesizer CTRL+INSERT+S

Read Columns 1 through 10 of a List View

CTRL+INSERT+n, where n is a value from 1, 2, 3 through 0

Copy Selected Text to FSClipboard
WINDOWS KEY+C


For Frames
Frame Get Top Left
CTRL+SHIFT+LEFT BRACKET

Frame Get Bottom Right
CTRL+SHIFT+RIGHT BRACKET

Frame Set to Window
CTRL+SHIFT+LEFT BRACKET twice quickly


For JAWS Tandem
Ends JAWS Tandem Session INSERT+ALT+T

Toggle Between Target and Controller Desktop (Controller User only)
INSERT+ALT+TAB

Toggle Video On or Off on Controller (Controller User only)
INSERT+CTRL+SHIFT+V


For Research It
Open Research It
INSERT+SPACEBAR, followed by R

Launch Research It Using the Primary Lookup Source INSERT+WINDOWS Key+R


Laptop Keystrokes
For Reading Text
Say Character
CAPS LOCK+COMMA

Say Character Phonetically
CAPS LOCK+COMMA twice quickly

Say Prior Character
CAPS LOCK+M

Say Next Character
CAPS LOCK+PERIOD

Say Word
CAPS LOCK+K

Spell Word
CAPS LOCK+K twice quickly
Say Prior Word
CAPS LOCK+J

Say Next Word
CAPS LOCK+L

Say Line
CAPS LOCK+I

Spell Line
CAPS LOCK+I twice quickly

Say Prior Line
CAPS LOCK+U

Say Next Line
CAPS LOCK+O

Say Sentence
CAPS LOCK+H

Say Prior Sentence
CAPS LOCK+Y

Say Next Sentence
CAPS LOCK+N

Say Paragraph
CAPS LOCK+CTRL+I

Say Prior Paragraph
CAPS LOCK+CTRL+U

Say Next Paragraph
CAPS LOCK+CTRL+O

Say to Cursor
CAPS LOCK+SHIFT+J

Say from Cursor
CAPS LOCK+SHIFT+L

Say All
CAPS LOCK+A

Rewind During a Say All
LEFT ARROW

Fast Forward During a Say All
RIGHT ARROW

Say Color
CAPS LOCK+5

Increase Voice Rate During Say All
PAGE UP

Decrease Voice Rate During Say All
PAGE DOWN

Increase Voice Rate When Not in Say All
ALT+CTRL+PAGE UP

Decrease Voice Rate When Not in Say All
ALT+CTRL+PAGE DOWN

Screen Refresh
CAPS LOCK+ESC

Start Skim Reading
CAPS LOCK+CTRL+DOWN ARROW

Change Skim Reading Preferences
CAPS LOCK+CTRL+SHIFT+ DOWN ARROW

Display Skim Reading Summary
CAPS LOCK+WINDOWS KEY+DOWN ARROW

Toggle Speech On and Off
CAPS LOCK+SPACEBAR, followed by S


Informational
Interrupt Speech
CTRL

Say Font
CAPS LOCK+F

Say Window Title
CAPS LOCK+T

Say Window Prompt and Text
CAPS LOCK+TAB

JAWS Find
CAPS LOCK+ CTRL+F

JAWS Find Next
CAPS LOCK+F3

JAWS Find Previous
CAPS LOCK+SHIFT+F3

Say Top Line of Window
CAPS LOCK+SHIFT+Y

Say Bottom Line of Window
CAPS LOCK+SHIFT+N

Say Selected Text
CAPS LOCK+SHIFT+A

Get Application Version
CAPS LOCK+CTRL+V


For Cursors and Mouse
PC Cursor
CAPS LOCK+SEMICOLON

JAWS Cursor
CAPS LOCK+P

Route PC Cursor to JAWS Cursor
CAPS LOCK+APOSTROPHE

Route JAWS Cursor to PC Cursor
CAPS LOCK+LEFT BRACKET

Left Mouse Button
CAPS LOCK+8

Right Mouse Button
CAPS LOCK+9

Left Mouse Button Lock
CTRL+WINDOWS KEY+8

Right Mouse Button Lock
CTRL+WINDOWS KEY+9

Drag and Drop
CAPS LOCK+CTRL+8

Restrict JAWS Cursor
CAPS LOCK+R


For Dialog Boxes
Say Default Button of Dialog
CAPS LOCK+E

Read Window in Tab Order
CAPS LOCK+B

Read Word in Context
CAPS LOCK+C

Say Current Control Hot Key
CAPS LOCK+SHIFT+COMMA

Open Combo Box
ALT+DOWN ARROW

Close Combo Box
ALT+UP ARROW

Announce Progress Bar Status
CAPS LOCK+TAB


For Help
Context Sensitive Help
CAPS LOCK+F1

Keyboard Help
CAPS LOCK+1

JAWS Help for Applications
CAPS LOCK+F1 twice quickly

Hot Key Help
INSERT+H

Windows Key Help
CAPS LOCK+W


Miscellaneous
JAWS Window
INSERT+J

Refresh Screen
CAPS LOCK+ESC

Adjust JAWS Options
CAPS LOCK+V

Run JAWS Manager
CAPS LOCK+F2

Shut Down JAWS
CAPS LOCK+F4

Window List Dialog
CAPS LOCK+F10

Select a System Tray Icon Dialog
CAPS LOCK+F11

Say System Time
CAPS LOCK+F12

Graphics Labeler
CAPS LOCK+G

Auto Graphics Labeler
CAPS LOCK+CTRL+G

Pass Key Through
CAPS LOCK+3

Read Columns 1 through 10 of a List View
CTRL+INSERT+n, where n is a value from 1, 2, 3, through 0

Copy Selected Text to FSClipboard
WINDOWS KEY+C


For Frames
Frame Get Top Left
CTRL+SHIFT+LEFT BRACKET

Frame Get Bottom Right
CTRL+SHIFT+RIGHT BRACKET

Frame Set to Window
CTRL+SHIFT+LEFT BRACKET twice quickly


For JAWS Tandem
Ends JAWS Tandem Session INSERT+ALT+T

Toggle Between Target and Controller Desktop (Controller User only)
INSERT+ALT+TAB

Toggle Video On or Off on Controller (Controller User only)
INSERT+CTRL+SHIFT+V


For Research It
Open Research It
CAPS LOCK+SPACEBAR, followed by R

Launch Research It Using the Primary Lookup Source CAPS LOCK+WINDOWS Key+R


Windows Keystrokes
General
Get Help
F1

Open the Start menu
CTRL+ESC

Open Windows Explorer
WINDOWS KEY+E
Open Run Dialog
WINDOWS KEY+R

Find File or Folder from Desktop
F3

Minimize All Applications
WINDOWS KEY+M

Switch Between Open Applications
ALT+TAB

Quit the Active Application
ALT+F4


For Windows and Menus
Open the Application Control Menu
ALT+SPACEBAR

Move to Current Application?s Menu Bar
ALT

Choose a Menu Item
ENTER

Move Between Menus
ALT, ARROW KEYS

Cancel or Close a Menu
ESC

Cancel or Close a Cascading Menu
ALT

Open a Child Window Control Menu
ALT+DASH

Close a Child Window
CTRL+F4

Open the Context Menu
APPLICATIONS KEY or SHIFT+F10


For Dialog Boxes
Move Through Dialog Controls
TAB

Move Backward Through Dialog Controls
SHIFT+TAB

Move to Another Page
CTRL+TAB

Reverse Direction Through Pages
CTRL+SHIFT+TAB

Select or Deselect in List View
SPACEBAR or CTRL+SPACEBAR

Toggle a Check Box On/Off
SPACEBAR


For Reading Text
Move One Character Left
LEFT ARROW

Move One Character Right
RIGHT ARROW

Move One Word Left
CTRL+LEFT ARROW

Move One Word Right
CTRL+RIGHT ARROW

Move to Beginning of Line
HOME

Move to End of Line
END

Move One Paragraph Up
CTRL+UP ARROW

Move One Paragraph Down
CTRL+DOWN ARROW

Scroll Up One Screen
PAGE UP

Scroll Down One Screen
PAGE DOWN

Move to Beginning
CTRL+HOME

Move to End
CTRL+END


For Editing Text
Copy
CTRL+C

Cut
CTRL+X

Paste
CTRL+V

Read Clipboard Contents (Desktop or Laptop Layout)
WINDOWS KEY+INSERT+X or WINDOWS KEY+CAPS LOCK+X

Undo
CTRL+Z

Delete Current Character
DELETE

Delete Prior Character
BACKSPACE

Select One Character Left
SHIFT+LEFT ARROW

Select One Character Right
SHIFT+RIGHT ARROW

Select One Word Left
CTRL+SHIFT+LEFT ARROW

Select One Word Right
CTRL+SHIFT+RIGHT ARROW

Select to Beginning of Line
SHIFT+HOME

Select to End of Line
SHIFT+END

Select to Beginning
CTRL+SHIFT+HOME

Select to End
CTRL+SHIFT+END

Select All
CTRL+A


For Windows Explorer
Delete files
DELETE

Rename a file or folder
F2

Open Properties for Selected File or Folder
ALT+ENTER

Refresh a window
F5

Switch between panes
TAB and SHIFT+TAB

Go up one level
BACKSPACE
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Peter Holdstock <ptrholdstock@...>
 

There's a good idea John. WLM is used by many but has it's very silly querks and it would be great if we could get an email client working perfectly well with JAWS. I reckon it would only take you a day or so to fix everything as much of it is stupid stuff like graphics not been labelled so the user has to do it themselves so it will then identify unread messages, collapsed conversations etc and the calendar function isn't ideal. Could be a quick bit of work and create many happy JAWS users. That said I know I and many others have repeatedly reported these issues to FS including during the JAWS 13 beta so hopefully they'll get off their backsides and fix them.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 9:54 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

Hello,
Does anyone know if there are scripts for the new WLM?
I'm running Windows Vista and Jaws 11 and I just installed WLM. It seems as
if it is utilizing ribbons instead of a menu bar, so I'm stuck with a
not-so-good way of changing my settings. Also the spell check is horrible
because it just tells the word that it wants to change to, not the
misspelled word.
I don't think this problem was on the old Windows Live Mail but I don't know
how to get an earlier version of WLM.
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Holdstock
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 1:21 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application

I think all of us agree that John should get some recompense for his work
and I think many offered to pay something for the fnatastic Itunes scripts.
Perhaps having a paypal link on his site would be a good idea for voluntary
contributions although if he came up with realistic prices I'd be happy to
consider whether I need the product or not.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Marquette, Ed
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 8:29 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: JAWS Scripting for a new application

At the risk of starting a conflagration of controversy, I would like to
support the notion that John should get some remuneration for his hard
work -- even if he charged for scripts.
I know I would pay significantly for a set of scripts that made Google Docs
accessable, though I think that is not feasible.
The biggest single area of inaccessibility I encounter on my job is with
respect to on-line collaboration. I have clients who regularly send
invitations to go-to-meeting sessions where a document will be on the
screen, albeit from the client's computer. We will be on the phone
together, and sometimes the client will make edits he wants me to review,
and sometimes he will say simply, "Here, I'll give you control. Why don't
you revise this section on indemnification?"
I accomplish this only with the assistance of my sighted secretary. Without
her presence, I would be sunk.
Serotek has something called Accessable Event, but that really doesn't cut
it.
Again, this may be an application of limited applicability, but I run into
it all the time, and document collaboration is becoming more and more
popular. I hear ads for Go-To-Meeting almost every time I tune into XM
Radio, and note the popularity of Google Docs, not just because it is cheap,
but also because it offers collaboration.
This may simply be impossible and not everyone needs it, but if you need it,
you need it bad.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 2:11 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application


Ok, so with most of the Office applications scripted for, not to
mention iTunes, and the various parts of Windows, what else would
the masses of unemployed blind folks with limitted incomes like
access to?
With the basics that most people want to use daily covered, we're
probably going to move into more specialized applications that not
as many people require. If said application is something that some
of us who work or are trying to find work need access to, maybe we
should donate a little cash to John for his hard work and probably
hundreds of hours spent scripting. Just a thought. Of course, any
donations would be voluntary.





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Perhaps I'm overestimating the difficulty, but I certainly wouldn't want to do scripting without knowing programming. If you want to know what it's like, hit jaws key plus zero in a scripted application to read the scripts.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Smart" <csmart8@cogeco.ca>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application


Go into Start Menu, Jaws, Explore Jaws, and press ENTER on Explore the Manuals. That will open a folder. Press ENTER on.
No you don't need a programming background to get started.
Chris

At 02:51 AM 10/24/2011, you wrote:
Hello,
From where we can get these scripts?
Can anyone work on, with the scripts to make an application accessible?
How can I learnthis, so that I can do scripting?
Does scripting require any programming background?
Thank you in advance.

----- Original Message ----- From: "kaveinthran" <kavein2211@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 9:55 AM
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application


hi sir,

You can try adobe audition or CCleaner

or, even audacity

On 10/24/2011 2:21 AM, John Martyn wrote:
Hi all,
While I wrap up some last minute scripting projects, I am looking for a new
application to script. I won't be doing any financial applications or office
applications this time, but any other suggestions are welcome.
I've gotten rather quick at doing this so challenges are also welcome.
John Martyn



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Keystrokes


Internet Explorer Keystrokes
Note: The JAWS help system includes detailed information about using Internet Explorer. In your browser, press and hold INSERT and press F1 twice quickly. Once JAWS help is open, press F6 to move to the help topic window.


General
Go Back a Page
ALT+LEFT ARROW or BACKSPACE

Go Forward a Page
ALT+RIGHT ARROW

Go to Home Page
ALT+HOME

Read Address Bar
INSERT+A

Next Link
TAB

Prior Link
SHIFT+TAB

Open Link
ENTER

List Frames
INSERT+F9

List Links
INSERT+F7

List Headings
INSERT+F6

Heading at Level
1 through 6

Personalized Web Settings
SHIFT+INSERT+V

Virtual HTML Features
INSERT+F3

Activate Mouse Over
CTRL+INSERT+ENTER

Move to Next Clickable Element
SLASH

Move to Previous Clickable Element
SHIFT+SLASH

Select Clickable Element
INSERT+CTRL+SLASH

Select a Mouse Over Element
INSERT+WINDOWS KEY+SEMICOLON

JAWS Find Next and Previous F3 and SHIFT+F3 (Internet Explorer only)

Assign Custom Label
CTRL+INSERT+TAB

Move to Next Landmark
SEMICOLON

Move to Previous Landmark
SHIFT+SEMICOLON

Select a Landmark
INSERT+CTRL+SEMICOLON

ARIA Drag-and-Drop
WINDOWS Key+CTRL+EQUALS

ARIA Live Region Text Filter
WINDOWS Key+CTRL+DASH


Tabbed Browsing Quick Keys
Open a New Tab
CTRL+T

Open a New Tab from the Address Bar
ALT+ENTER (on address bar)

Open a New Tab from the Toolbar Search Box
ALT+ENTER (on address bar)

View List of Open Tabs
CTRL+SHIFT+Q

Toggle Quick Tabs (Thumbnail View)
CTRL+Q

Switch to the Next Tab
CTRL+TAB
Switch to the Previous Tab
CTRL+SHIFT+TAB

Switch to a Specific Tab Number
CTRL+n, where n is a digit from 1 through 8

Switch to Last Tab
CTRL+9

Close Current Tab
CTRL+W or CTRL+F4

Close All Tabs
ALT+F4

Close Other Tabs
CTRL+ALT+F4

Open Links in a New Tab in the Background
CTRL+ENTER

Open Links in a New Tab in the Foreground
CTRL+SHIFT+ENTER

Opens and places focus on the Feeds tree view
CTRL+J
Subscribe to Feeds or Web Slices
ALT+J (Internet Explorer 8 or later for Web Slices)


Navigation Quick Keys
Tip: If you hold down SHIFT before pressing one of the following Navigation Quick Keys, you can move to the previous instance of that element, for example, press A to move to the next anchor, press SHIFT+A to move to the previous anchor. In addition, if you hold down CTRL+INSERT while pressing keystrokes with an asterisk (*) next to them, JAWS displays a list of those elements on the page.

Next Anchor
A*

Next Button
B*

Next Combo Box
C*

Next Different Element
D

Next Edit Box
E*

Next Form Control
F

Next Graphic
G*

Next Heading
H

Next Item in a List
I

Jump to Line
J*

Next PlaceMarker
K*

Next List
L*

Next Frame
M

Skip Past Links
N

Next Object Tag
O

Next Paragraph
P*

Next Quote
Q*

Next Radio Button
R*

Next Same Element
S

Next Table
T*

Next Unvisited Link
U

Next Visited Link
V

Next Check Box
X*

Next Division
Z*

Next Element
SHIFT+PERIOD

Previous Element
SHIFT+COMMA

Forms
Enter Forms Mode
ENTER

Exit Forms Mode
NUM PAD PLUS

List Form Fields
INSERT+F5

First Form Field
INSERT+CTRL+HOME

Next Form Field
F

Prior Form Field
SHIFT+F

Last Form Field
INSERT+CTRL+END

Next Button
B

Prior Button
SHIFT+B

List Buttons
CTRL+INSERT+B

Next Combo Box
C

Prior Combo Box
SHIFT+C

List Combo Boxes
CTRL+INSERT+C

Next Edit Box E
Prior Edit Box SHIFT+E

List Edit Boxes
CTRL+INSERT+E

Next Radio Button
R

Prior Radio Button
SHIFT+R

List Radio Buttons
CTRL+INSERT+R

Next Check Box
X

Prior Check Box
SHIFT+X

List Check Boxes
CTRL+INSERT+X


Tables
Next Table
T

Prior Table
SHIFT+T

Select Table
F8

Next Row
WINDOWS KEY+ALT+DOWN ARROW

Prior Row
WINDOWS KEY+ALT+UP ARROW

Read Row
WINDOWS KEY+COMMA or WINDOWS KEY+NUM PAD 5

Next Column
WINDOWS KEY+ALT+RIGHT ARROW

Prior Column
WINDOWS KEY+ALT+LEFT ARROW

Read Column
WINDOWS KEY+PERIOD

Next Cell in Row
ALT+CTRL+RIGHT ARROW

Prior Cell in Row
ALT+CTRL+LEFT ARROW

Cell Below in Column
ALT+CTRL+DOWN ARROW

Cell Above in Column
ALT+CTRL+UP ARROW

Jump to Table Cell
CTRL+WINDOWS KEY+J
Return to Previous Cell
CTRL+WINDOWS KEY+SHIFT+J

PlaceMarkers
Set Temporary PlaceMarker (Permanent Marker for Word)
CTRL+WINDOWS Key+K

Add, Delete, Edit, or Rename Permanent PlaceMarkers
CTRL+SHIFT+K

Move to the Next or Prior PlaceMarker
K or SHIFT+K

Read Text at PlaceMarkers 1 through 4
Number Row Keys 7 through 0

Move to PlaceMarker 1 through 4
SHIFT+ number row keys 7 through 0

Return to PlaceMarker in Word
WINDOWS Key+K

Select Text from PlaceMarker to Cursor Position in Word
INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by M


Frames
Next Frame
M

Prior Frame
SHIFT+M

List Frames
INSERT+F9


Elements
Next Same Element
S

Prior Same Element
SHIFT+S

Next Different Element
D

Prior Different Element
SHIFT+D

Next Element
SHIFT+PERIOD

Prior Element
SHIFT+COMMA

Select Entire Element
F8

Display Entire Element
SHIFT+INSERT+F1

Display Detailed Element Information
CTRL+SHIFT+INSERT+F1

Activate Mouse Over
INSERT+CTRL+ENTER


Desktop Keystrokes
For Reading Text
Say Character
NUM PAD 5

Say Character Phonetically
NUM PAD 5 twice quickly

Say Prior Character
LEFT ARROW

Say Next Character
RIGHT ARROW

Say Word
INSERT+NUM PAD 5

Spell Word
INSERT+NUM PAD 5 twice quickly

Say Prior Word
INSERT+LEFT ARROW

Say Next Word
INSERT+RIGHT ARROW

Say Line
INSERT+UP ARROW

Spell Line
INSERT+UP ARROW twice quickly

Say Prior Line
UP ARROW

Say Next Line
DOWN ARROW

Say Sentence
ALT+NUM PAD 5

Say Prior Sentence
ALT+UP ARROW

Say Next Sentence
ALT+DOWN ARROW

Say Paragraph
CTRL+NUM PAD 5

Say Prior Paragraph
CTRL+UP ARROW

Say Next Paragraph
CTRL+DOWN ARROW

Say to Cursor
INSERT+HOME

Say from Cursor
INSERT+PAGE UP

Say All
INSERT+DOWN ARROW

Rewind During Say All
LEFT ARROW

Fast Forward During Say All
RIGHT ARROW

Say Color
INSERT+5 on the numbers row

Increase Voice Rate During Say All
PAGE UP

Decrease Voice Rate During Say All
PAGE DOWN

Increase Voice Rate When Not in Say All
ALT+CTRL+PAGE UP

Decrease Voice Rate When Not in Say All
ALT+CTRL+PAGE DOWN

Screen Refresh
INSERT+ESC

Start Skim Reading
CTRL+INSERT+DOWN ARROW

Change Skim Reading Preferences
CTRL+SHIFT+INSERT+DOWN ARROW

Display Skim Reading Summary
INSERT+WINDOWS KEY+DOWN ARROW

Toggle Speech On and Off
INSERT+SPACEBAR, followed by S


Informational
Interrupt Speech
CTRL

Say Font
INSERT+F

Say Window Title
INSERT+T

Say Window Prompt and Text
INSERT+TAB

JAWS Find
CTRL+INSERT+F

JAWS Find Next
INSERT+F3

JAWS Find Previous
INSERT+SHIFT+F3

Say Top Line of Window
INSERT+END

Say Bottom Line of Window
INSERT+PAGE DOWN

Say Selected Text
INSERT+SHIFT+ DOWN ARROW

Get Application Version
CTRL+INSERT+V


For Cursors and Mouse
PC Cursor
NUM PAD PLUS

JAWS Cursor
NUM PAD MINUS

Route PC Cursor to JAWS Cursor
INSERT+NUM PAD PLUS

Route JAWS Cursor to PC Cursor
INSERT+NUM PAD MINUS

Left Mouse Button
NUM PAD SLASH

Right Mouse Button
NUM PAD STAR

Drag and Drop
CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH

Restrict JAWS Cursor
INSERT+R


For Dialog Boxes
Say Default Button of Dialog Box
INSERT+E

Read Window from Top to Bottom
INSERT+B

Read Word in Context
INSERT+C

Say Current Control Hot Key
SHIFT+NUM PAD 5

Open Combo Box
ALT+DOWN ARROW

Close Combo Box
ALT+UP ARROW

Announce Progress Bar Status
INSERT+TAB


For Help
Context Sensitive Help
INSERT+F1

Keyboard Help
INSERT+1

JAWS Help for Applications
INSERT+F1 twice quickly

Hot Key Help
INSERT+H

Windows Key Help
INSERT+W


Miscellaneous
JAWS Window
INSERT+J

Refresh Screen
INSERT+ESC

Adjust JAWS Options
INSERT+V

Run JAWS Manager
INSERT+F2

Shut Down JAWS
INSERT+F4

Window List Dialog
INSERT+F10

Select a System Tray Icon Dialog
INSERT+F11

Say System Time
INSERT+F12

Graphics Labeler
INSERT+G

Auto Graphics Labeler
CTRL+INSERT+G

Pass Key Through
INSERT+3 on the numbers row

Virtualize Window
ALT+INSERT+W

Virtualize Current Control
ALT+SHIFT+INSERT+W

Select Scheme
ALT+INSERT+S

Select Language
CTRL+WINDOWS KEY+L

Select Synthesizer CTRL+INSERT+S

Read Columns 1 through 10 of a List View

CTRL+INSERT+n, where n is a value from 1, 2, 3 through 0

Copy Selected Text to FSClipboard
WINDOWS KEY+C


For Frames
Frame Get Top Left
CTRL+SHIFT+LEFT BRACKET

Frame Get Bottom Right
CTRL+SHIFT+RIGHT BRACKET

Frame Set to Window
CTRL+SHIFT+LEFT BRACKET twice quickly


For JAWS Tandem
Ends JAWS Tandem Session INSERT+ALT+T

Toggle Between Target and Controller Desktop (Controller User only)
INSERT+ALT+TAB

Toggle Video On or Off on Controller (Controller User only)
INSERT+CTRL+SHIFT+V


For Research It
Open Research It
INSERT+SPACEBAR, followed by R

Launch Research It Using the Primary Lookup Source INSERT+WINDOWS Key+R


Laptop Keystrokes
For Reading Text
Say Character
CAPS LOCK+COMMA

Say Character Phonetically
CAPS LOCK+COMMA twice quickly

Say Prior Character
CAPS LOCK+M

Say Next Character
CAPS LOCK+PERIOD

Say Word
CAPS LOCK+K

Spell Word
CAPS LOCK+K twice quickly
Say Prior Word
CAPS LOCK+J

Say Next Word
CAPS LOCK+L

Say Line
CAPS LOCK+I

Spell Line
CAPS LOCK+I twice quickly

Say Prior Line
CAPS LOCK+U

Say Next Line
CAPS LOCK+O

Say Sentence
CAPS LOCK+H

Say Prior Sentence
CAPS LOCK+Y

Say Next Sentence
CAPS LOCK+N

Say Paragraph
CAPS LOCK+CTRL+I

Say Prior Paragraph
CAPS LOCK+CTRL+U

Say Next Paragraph
CAPS LOCK+CTRL+O

Say to Cursor
CAPS LOCK+SHIFT+J

Say from Cursor
CAPS LOCK+SHIFT+L

Say All
CAPS LOCK+A

Rewind During a Say All
LEFT ARROW

Fast Forward During a Say All
RIGHT ARROW

Say Color
CAPS LOCK+5

Increase Voice Rate During Say All
PAGE UP

Decrease Voice Rate During Say All
PAGE DOWN

Increase Voice Rate When Not in Say All
ALT+CTRL+PAGE UP

Decrease Voice Rate When Not in Say All
ALT+CTRL+PAGE DOWN

Screen Refresh
CAPS LOCK+ESC

Start Skim Reading
CAPS LOCK+CTRL+DOWN ARROW

Change Skim Reading Preferences
CAPS LOCK+CTRL+SHIFT+ DOWN ARROW

Display Skim Reading Summary
CAPS LOCK+WINDOWS KEY+DOWN ARROW

Toggle Speech On and Off
CAPS LOCK+SPACEBAR, followed by S


Informational
Interrupt Speech
CTRL

Say Font
CAPS LOCK+F

Say Window Title
CAPS LOCK+T

Say Window Prompt and Text
CAPS LOCK+TAB

JAWS Find
CAPS LOCK+ CTRL+F

JAWS Find Next
CAPS LOCK+F3

JAWS Find Previous
CAPS LOCK+SHIFT+F3

Say Top Line of Window
CAPS LOCK+SHIFT+Y

Say Bottom Line of Window
CAPS LOCK+SHIFT+N

Say Selected Text
CAPS LOCK+SHIFT+A

Get Application Version
CAPS LOCK+CTRL+V


For Cursors and Mouse
PC Cursor
CAPS LOCK+SEMICOLON

JAWS Cursor
CAPS LOCK+P

Route PC Cursor to JAWS Cursor
CAPS LOCK+APOSTROPHE

Route JAWS Cursor to PC Cursor
CAPS LOCK+LEFT BRACKET

Left Mouse Button
CAPS LOCK+8

Right Mouse Button
CAPS LOCK+9

Left Mouse Button Lock
CTRL+WINDOWS KEY+8

Right Mouse Button Lock
CTRL+WINDOWS KEY+9

Drag and Drop
CAPS LOCK+CTRL+8

Restrict JAWS Cursor
CAPS LOCK+R


For Dialog Boxes
Say Default Button of Dialog
CAPS LOCK+E

Read Window in Tab Order
CAPS LOCK+B

Read Word in Context
CAPS LOCK+C

Say Current Control Hot Key
CAPS LOCK+SHIFT+COMMA

Open Combo Box
ALT+DOWN ARROW

Close Combo Box
ALT+UP ARROW

Announce Progress Bar Status
CAPS LOCK+TAB


For Help
Context Sensitive Help
CAPS LOCK+F1

Keyboard Help
CAPS LOCK+1

JAWS Help for Applications
CAPS LOCK+F1 twice quickly

Hot Key Help
INSERT+H

Windows Key Help
CAPS LOCK+W


Miscellaneous
JAWS Window
INSERT+J

Refresh Screen
CAPS LOCK+ESC

Adjust JAWS Options
CAPS LOCK+V

Run JAWS Manager
CAPS LOCK+F2

Shut Down JAWS
CAPS LOCK+F4

Window List Dialog
CAPS LOCK+F10

Select a System Tray Icon Dialog
CAPS LOCK+F11

Say System Time
CAPS LOCK+F12

Graphics Labeler
CAPS LOCK+G

Auto Graphics Labeler
CAPS LOCK+CTRL+G

Pass Key Through
CAPS LOCK+3

Read Columns 1 through 10 of a List View
CTRL+INSERT+n, where n is a value from 1, 2, 3, through 0

Copy Selected Text to FSClipboard
WINDOWS KEY+C


For Frames
Frame Get Top Left
CTRL+SHIFT+LEFT BRACKET

Frame Get Bottom Right
CTRL+SHIFT+RIGHT BRACKET

Frame Set to Window
CTRL+SHIFT+LEFT BRACKET twice quickly


For JAWS Tandem
Ends JAWS Tandem Session INSERT+ALT+T

Toggle Between Target and Controller Desktop (Controller User only)
INSERT+ALT+TAB

Toggle Video On or Off on Controller (Controller User only)
INSERT+CTRL+SHIFT+V


For Research It
Open Research It
CAPS LOCK+SPACEBAR, followed by R

Launch Research It Using the Primary Lookup Source CAPS LOCK+WINDOWS Key+R


Windows Keystrokes
General
Get Help
F1

Open the Start menu
CTRL+ESC

Open Windows Explorer
WINDOWS KEY+E
Open Run Dialog
WINDOWS KEY+R

Find File or Folder from Desktop
F3

Minimize All Applications
WINDOWS KEY+M

Switch Between Open Applications
ALT+TAB

Quit the Active Application
ALT+F4


For Windows and Menus
Open the Application Control Menu
ALT+SPACEBAR

Move to Current Application?s Menu Bar
ALT

Choose a Menu Item
ENTER

Move Between Menus
ALT, ARROW KEYS

Cancel or Close a Menu
ESC

Cancel or Close a Cascading Menu
ALT

Open a Child Window Control Menu
ALT+DASH

Close a Child Window
CTRL+F4

Open the Context Menu
APPLICATIONS KEY or SHIFT+F10


For Dialog Boxes
Move Through Dialog Controls
TAB

Move Backward Through Dialog Controls
SHIFT+TAB

Move to Another Page
CTRL+TAB

Reverse Direction Through Pages
CTRL+SHIFT+TAB

Select or Deselect in List View
SPACEBAR or CTRL+SPACEBAR

Toggle a Check Box On/Off
SPACEBAR


For Reading Text
Move One Character Left
LEFT ARROW

Move One Character Right
RIGHT ARROW

Move One Word Left
CTRL+LEFT ARROW

Move One Word Right
CTRL+RIGHT ARROW

Move to Beginning of Line
HOME

Move to End of Line
END

Move One Paragraph Up
CTRL+UP ARROW

Move One Paragraph Down
CTRL+DOWN ARROW

Scroll Up One Screen
PAGE UP

Scroll Down One Screen
PAGE DOWN

Move to Beginning
CTRL+HOME

Move to End
CTRL+END


For Editing Text
Copy
CTRL+C

Cut
CTRL+X

Paste
CTRL+V

Read Clipboard Contents (Desktop or Laptop Layout)
WINDOWS KEY+INSERT+X or WINDOWS KEY+CAPS LOCK+X

Undo
CTRL+Z

Delete Current Character
DELETE

Delete Prior Character
BACKSPACE

Select One Character Left
SHIFT+LEFT ARROW

Select One Character Right
SHIFT+RIGHT ARROW

Select One Word Left
CTRL+SHIFT+LEFT ARROW

Select One Word Right
CTRL+SHIFT+RIGHT ARROW

Select to Beginning of Line
SHIFT+HOME

Select to End of Line
SHIFT+END

Select to Beginning
CTRL+SHIFT+HOME

Select to End
CTRL+SHIFT+END

Select All
CTRL+A


For Windows Explorer
Delete files
DELETE

Rename a file or folder
F2

Open Properties for Selected File or Folder
ALT+ENTER

Refresh a window
F5

Switch between panes
TAB and SHIFT+TAB

Go up one level
BACKSPACE
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