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Peter Holdstock <ptrholdstock@...> #4454 Dave, I realised that. I wasn't trying to pick at your suggestion, just giving a point as to why, if John wants to benefit the most people, scripting for the remote might not help him achieve that. Peter toggle quoted messageShow quoted text -----Original Message----- From: Farfar on Laptop Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 10:56 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application About $80 for the remote. John asked, and I answered. I wasn't trying to find one that might or might not have universal appeal or usefulness. Just know that this is one I'd personally like to have scripted. Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Holdstock" <ptrholdstock@gmail.com> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 11:47 Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application Do many VI people have those remotes? I don't and I'm not sure how many others will either. How much do they cost? I'm assuming not cheap and since the majortiy of blind people don't work I suspect uptake for this will be low. Of course I appreciate how it will be useful to those who do have the remotes though! Peter -----Original Message----- From: Farfar on Laptop Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 7:27 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application John, I'm struggling with the interface with Logitech Harmony Remote. It allows a single remote to be programmed to issue a series of commands in sequence, to simplify the control of separate audio/video components. The initial launch, installation, and the ultimate web interface are all very inaccessible, even with JAWS 13's OCR. Off-list I can "loan" you the files to install, but unfortunately in order to get it running, you need an actual Harmony remote connected via USB. A long shot, I know, but what a great tool to have for the VI. Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Martyn" <johnrobertmartyn@gmail.com> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 11:21 Subject: JAWS Scripting for a new application Hi all, While I wrap up some last minute scripting projects, I am looking for a new application to script. I won't be doing any financial applications or office applications this time, but any other suggestions are welcome. I've gotten rather quick at doing this so challenges are also welcome. John Martyn _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Dave... #4262 Peter, Grievance? Caused several other unnecessary messages? I'm just a poor sap who believes that a question asked deserves a coherent and relevant answer, that's all. No grievance. Clarity is essential if communication is to be successful. Sure, I'll drop it now, since you raised the question. And I'm a subscriber to the Blind Tunes list and use iTunes with the Blind Tunes scripts, so am familiar with his work on that application. Thanks for your reply. Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area toggle quoted messageShow quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Holdstock" <ptrholdstock@gmail.com> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 09:59 Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application Dave, the point about Iphones was not directly relevant to John's question, but it was relevant to many list members as many of his followers have come about due to his development of hte scripts for Itunes, many of whom have Apple devices. I'm sure John won't just be scripting to help those people with apple devices but for those people who may wish to switch email clients on the basis John does his scripts for it they may find it useful to know. It was one message to the list about something you might have thought was not relevent and now you have caused several other unnecessary messages to the list so why don't we just leave it there since I'm assuming that's what your grievance was? Peter -----Original Message----- From: Farfar on Laptop Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 3:12 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application Peter, Again why is that relevant to John's question about moving WLM Contacts to Outlook Express? Outlook Express does not run on an iPhone, and this is not an iPhone list -- at least not yet. Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Holdstock" <ptrholdstock@gmail.com> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 23:48 Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application Exactly what the message said. You can't move over your contacts on to the Iphone from WLM. That will matter to a lot of people since a large number of visually impaired people now have Iphones so it is relevent. Peter -----Original Message----- From: Farfar on Laptop Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 3:59 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application What does the iPhone have to do with Outlook Express and WLM? Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area ----- Original Message ----- From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 18:12 Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application if you use iPhone, you can not transfer your emails addresses. Only works for outlook. -----Original Message----- From: John Martyn Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 8:09 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: JAWS Scripting for a new application I could do WLM for fun while I am gearing up for the next application. I'm personally using Outlook 2010 and I hate it so perhaps I could make the switch. Does it import outlook express and outlook 2010 messages. What about profiles? Thanks, this will help me in the short run of things. John -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:05 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application There's a good idea John. WLM is used by many but has it's very silly querks and it would be great if we could get an email client working perfectly well with JAWS. I reckon it would only take you a day or so to fix everything as much of it is stupid stuff like graphics not been labelled so the user has to do it themselves so it will then identify unread messages, collapsed conversations etc and the calendar function isn't ideal. Could be a quick bit of work and create many happy JAWS users. That said I know I and many others have repeatedly reported these issues to FS including during the JAWS 13 beta so hopefully they'll get off their backsides and fix them. Peter -----Original Message----- From: Brandon Keith Biggs Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 9:54 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application Hello, Does anyone know if there are scripts for the new WLM? I'm running Windows Vista and Jaws 11 and I just installed WLM. It seems as if it is utilizing ribbons instead of a menu bar, so I'm stuck with a not-so-good way of changing my settings. Also the spell check is horrible because it just tells the word that it wants to change to, not the misspelled word. I don't think this problem was on the old Windows Live Mail but I don't know how to get an earlier version of WLM. Thanks, Brandon Keith Biggs -----Original Message----- From: Peter Holdstock Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 1:21 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application I think all of us agree that John should get some recompense for his work and I think many offered to pay something for the fnatastic Itunes scripts. Perhaps having a paypal link on his site would be a good idea for voluntary contributions although if he came up with realistic prices I'd be happy to consider whether I need the product or not. Peter -----Original Message----- From: Marquette, Ed Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 8:29 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: RE: JAWS Scripting for a new application At the risk of starting a conflagration of controversy, I would like to support the notion that John should get some remuneration for his hard work -- even if he charged for scripts. I know I would pay significantly for a set of scripts that made Google Docs accessable, though I think that is not feasible. The biggest single area of inaccessibility I encounter on my job is with respect to on-line collaboration. I have clients who regularly send invitations to go-to-meeting sessions where a document will be on the screen, albeit from the client's computer. We will be on the phone together, and sometimes the client will make edits he wants me to review, and sometimes he will say simply, "Here, I'll give you control. Why don't you revise this section on indemnification?" I accomplish this only with the assistance of my sighted secretary. Without her presence, I would be sunk. Serotek has something called Accessable Event, but that really doesn't cut it. Again, this may be an application of limited applicability, but I run into it all the time, and document collaboration is becoming more and more popular. I hear ads for Go-To-Meeting almost every time I tune into XM Radio, and note the popularity of Google Docs, not just because it is cheap, but also because it offers collaboration. This may simply be impossible and not everyone needs it, but if you need it, you need it bad. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Chris Smart Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 2:11 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application Ok, so with most of the Office applications scripted for, not to mention iTunes, and the various parts of Windows, what else would the masses of unemployed blind folks with limitted incomes like access to? With the basics that most people want to use daily covered, we're probably going to move into more specialized applications that not as many people require. If said application is something that some of us who work or are trying to find work need access to, maybe we should donate a little cash to John for his hard work and probably hundreds of hours spent scripting. Just a thought. 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Peter Holdstock <ptrholdstock@...> #4260 Dave, the point about Iphones was not directly relevant to John's question, but it was relevant to many list members as many of his followers have come about due to his development of hte scripts for Itunes, many of whom have Apple devices. I'm sure John won't just be scripting to help those people with apple devices but for those people who may wish to switch email clients on the basis John does his scripts for it they may find it useful to know. It was one message to the list about something you might have thought was not relevent and now you have caused several other unnecessary messages to the list so why don't we just leave it there since I'm assuming that's what your grievance was? Peter toggle quoted messageShow quoted text -----Original Message----- From: Farfar on Laptop Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 3:12 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application Peter, Again why is that relevant to John's question about moving WLM Contacts to Outlook Express? Outlook Express does not run on an iPhone, and this is not an iPhone list -- at least not yet. Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Holdstock" <ptrholdstock@gmail.com> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 23:48 Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application Exactly what the message said. You can't move over your contacts on to the Iphone from WLM. That will matter to a lot of people since a large number of visually impaired people now have Iphones so it is relevent. Peter -----Original Message----- From: Farfar on Laptop Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 3:59 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application What does the iPhone have to do with Outlook Express and WLM? Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area ----- Original Message ----- From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 18:12 Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application if you use iPhone, you can not transfer your emails addresses. Only works for outlook. -----Original Message----- From: John Martyn Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 8:09 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: JAWS Scripting for a new application I could do WLM for fun while I am gearing up for the next application. I'm personally using Outlook 2010 and I hate it so perhaps I could make the switch. Does it import outlook express and outlook 2010 messages. What about profiles? Thanks, this will help me in the short run of things. John -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:05 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application There's a good idea John. WLM is used by many but has it's very silly querks and it would be great if we could get an email client working perfectly well with JAWS. I reckon it would only take you a day or so to fix everything as much of it is stupid stuff like graphics not been labelled so the user has to do it themselves so it will then identify unread messages, collapsed conversations etc and the calendar function isn't ideal. Could be a quick bit of work and create many happy JAWS users. That said I know I and many others have repeatedly reported these issues to FS including during the JAWS 13 beta so hopefully they'll get off their backsides and fix them. Peter -----Original Message----- From: Brandon Keith Biggs Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 9:54 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application Hello, Does anyone know if there are scripts for the new WLM? I'm running Windows Vista and Jaws 11 and I just installed WLM. It seems as if it is utilizing ribbons instead of a menu bar, so I'm stuck with a not-so-good way of changing my settings. Also the spell check is horrible because it just tells the word that it wants to change to, not the misspelled word. I don't think this problem was on the old Windows Live Mail but I don't know how to get an earlier version of WLM. Thanks, Brandon Keith Biggs -----Original Message----- From: Peter Holdstock Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 1:21 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application I think all of us agree that John should get some recompense for his work and I think many offered to pay something for the fnatastic Itunes scripts. Perhaps having a paypal link on his site would be a good idea for voluntary contributions although if he came up with realistic prices I'd be happy to consider whether I need the product or not. Peter -----Original Message----- From: Marquette, Ed Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 8:29 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: RE: JAWS Scripting for a new application At the risk of starting a conflagration of controversy, I would like to support the notion that John should get some remuneration for his hard work -- even if he charged for scripts. I know I would pay significantly for a set of scripts that made Google Docs accessable, though I think that is not feasible. The biggest single area of inaccessibility I encounter on my job is with respect to on-line collaboration. I have clients who regularly send invitations to go-to-meeting sessions where a document will be on the screen, albeit from the client's computer. We will be on the phone together, and sometimes the client will make edits he wants me to review, and sometimes he will say simply, "Here, I'll give you control. Why don't you revise this section on indemnification?" I accomplish this only with the assistance of my sighted secretary. Without her presence, I would be sunk. Serotek has something called Accessable Event, but that really doesn't cut it. Again, this may be an application of limited applicability, but I run into it all the time, and document collaboration is becoming more and more popular. I hear ads for Go-To-Meeting almost every time I tune into XM Radio, and note the popularity of Google Docs, not just because it is cheap, but also because it offers collaboration. This may simply be impossible and not everyone needs it, but if you need it, you need it bad. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Chris Smart Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 2:11 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application Ok, so with most of the Office applications scripted for, not to mention iTunes, and the various parts of Windows, what else would the masses of unemployed blind folks with limitted incomes like access to? With the basics that most people want to use daily covered, we're probably going to move into more specialized applications that not as many people require. If said application is something that some of us who work or are trying to find work need access to, maybe we should donate a little cash to John for his hard work and probably hundreds of hours spent scripting. Just a thought. Of course, any donations would be voluntary. -------------------------------------------------- CTS MASTERING: PROFESSIONAL MIXING AND MASTERING Clear True Sound www.ctsmastering.com and be sure to "like us" on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/CTS-Mastering/139114066128698 _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ############################################################################ ################################# ANY FEDERAL TAX ADVICE CONTAINED IN THIS MESSAGE SHOULD NOT BE USED OR REFERRED TO IN THE PROMOTING, MARKETING OR RECOMMENDING OF ANY ENTITY, INVESTMENT PLAN OR ARRANGEMENT, AND SUCH ADVICE IS NOT INTENDED OR WRITTEN TO BE USED, AND CANNOT BE USED, BY A TAXPAYER FOR THE PURPOSE OF AVOIDING PENALTIES UNDER THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE. ############################################################################ ################################# This E-mail message is confidential, is intended only for the named recipient(s) above and may contain information that is privileged, attorney work product or otherwise protected by applicable law. 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Dave... #4250 Peter, Again why is that relevant to John's question about moving WLM Contacts to Outlook Express? Outlook Express does not run on an iPhone, and this is not an iPhone list -- at least not yet. Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area toggle quoted messageShow quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Holdstock" <ptrholdstock@gmail.com> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 23:48 Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application Exactly what the message said. You can't move over your contacts on to the Iphone from WLM. That will matter to a lot of people since a large number of visually impaired people now have Iphones so it is relevent. Peter -----Original Message----- From: Farfar on Laptop Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 3:59 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application What does the iPhone have to do with Outlook Express and WLM? Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area ----- Original Message ----- From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 18:12 Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application if you use iPhone, you can not transfer your emails addresses. Only works for outlook. -----Original Message----- From: John Martyn Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 8:09 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: JAWS Scripting for a new application I could do WLM for fun while I am gearing up for the next application. I'm personally using Outlook 2010 and I hate it so perhaps I could make the switch. Does it import outlook express and outlook 2010 messages. What about profiles? Thanks, this will help me in the short run of things. John -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:05 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application There's a good idea John. WLM is used by many but has it's very silly querks and it would be great if we could get an email client working perfectly well with JAWS. I reckon it would only take you a day or so to fix everything as much of it is stupid stuff like graphics not been labelled so the user has to do it themselves so it will then identify unread messages, collapsed conversations etc and the calendar function isn't ideal. Could be a quick bit of work and create many happy JAWS users. That said I know I and many others have repeatedly reported these issues to FS including during the JAWS 13 beta so hopefully they'll get off their backsides and fix them. Peter -----Original Message----- From: Brandon Keith Biggs Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 9:54 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application Hello, Does anyone know if there are scripts for the new WLM? I'm running Windows Vista and Jaws 11 and I just installed WLM. It seems as if it is utilizing ribbons instead of a menu bar, so I'm stuck with a not-so-good way of changing my settings. Also the spell check is horrible because it just tells the word that it wants to change to, not the misspelled word. I don't think this problem was on the old Windows Live Mail but I don't know how to get an earlier version of WLM. Thanks, Brandon Keith Biggs -----Original Message----- From: Peter Holdstock Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 1:21 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application I think all of us agree that John should get some recompense for his work and I think many offered to pay something for the fnatastic Itunes scripts. Perhaps having a paypal link on his site would be a good idea for voluntary contributions although if he came up with realistic prices I'd be happy to consider whether I need the product or not. Peter -----Original Message----- From: Marquette, Ed Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 8:29 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: RE: JAWS Scripting for a new application At the risk of starting a conflagration of controversy, I would like to support the notion that John should get some remuneration for his hard work -- even if he charged for scripts. I know I would pay significantly for a set of scripts that made Google Docs accessable, though I think that is not feasible. The biggest single area of inaccessibility I encounter on my job is with respect to on-line collaboration. I have clients who regularly send invitations to go-to-meeting sessions where a document will be on the screen, albeit from the client's computer. We will be on the phone together, and sometimes the client will make edits he wants me to review, and sometimes he will say simply, "Here, I'll give you control. Why don't you revise this section on indemnification?" I accomplish this only with the assistance of my sighted secretary. Without her presence, I would be sunk. Serotek has something called Accessable Event, but that really doesn't cut it. Again, this may be an application of limited applicability, but I run into it all the time, and document collaboration is becoming more and more popular. I hear ads for Go-To-Meeting almost every time I tune into XM Radio, and note the popularity of Google Docs, not just because it is cheap, but also because it offers collaboration. This may simply be impossible and not everyone needs it, but if you need it, you need it bad. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Chris Smart Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 2:11 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application Ok, so with most of the Office applications scripted for, not to mention iTunes, and the various parts of Windows, what else would the masses of unemployed blind folks with limitted incomes like access to? With the basics that most people want to use daily covered, we're probably going to move into more specialized applications that not as many people require. If said application is something that some of us who work or are trying to find work need access to, maybe we should donate a little cash to John for his hard work and probably hundreds of hours spent scripting. Just a thought. Of course, any donations would be voluntary. -------------------------------------------------- CTS MASTERING: PROFESSIONAL MIXING AND MASTERING Clear True Sound www.ctsmastering.com and be sure to "like us" on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/CTS-Mastering/139114066128698 _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ############################################################################ ################################# ANY FEDERAL TAX ADVICE CONTAINED IN THIS MESSAGE SHOULD NOT BE USED OR REFERRED TO IN THE PROMOTING, MARKETING OR RECOMMENDING OF ANY ENTITY, INVESTMENT PLAN OR ARRANGEMENT, AND SUCH ADVICE IS NOT INTENDED OR WRITTEN TO BE USED, AND CANNOT BE USED, BY A TAXPAYER FOR THE PURPOSE OF AVOIDING PENALTIES UNDER THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE. ############################################################################ ################################# This E-mail message is confidential, is intended only for the named recipient(s) above and may contain information that is privileged, attorney work product or otherwise protected by applicable law. 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Peter Holdstock <ptrholdstock@...> #4246 Exactly what the message said. You can't move over your contacts on to the Iphone from WLM. That will matter to a lot of people since a large number of visually impaired people now have Iphones so it is relevent. Peter toggle quoted messageShow quoted text -----Original Message----- From: Farfar on Laptop Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 3:59 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application What does the iPhone have to do with Outlook Express and WLM? Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area ----- Original Message ----- From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 18:12 Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application if you use iPhone, you can not transfer your emails addresses. Only works for outlook. -----Original Message----- From: John Martyn Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 8:09 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: JAWS Scripting for a new application I could do WLM for fun while I am gearing up for the next application. I'm personally using Outlook 2010 and I hate it so perhaps I could make the switch. Does it import outlook express and outlook 2010 messages. What about profiles? Thanks, this will help me in the short run of things. John -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:05 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application There's a good idea John. WLM is used by many but has it's very silly querks and it would be great if we could get an email client working perfectly well with JAWS. I reckon it would only take you a day or so to fix everything as much of it is stupid stuff like graphics not been labelled so the user has to do it themselves so it will then identify unread messages, collapsed conversations etc and the calendar function isn't ideal. Could be a quick bit of work and create many happy JAWS users. That said I know I and many others have repeatedly reported these issues to FS including during the JAWS 13 beta so hopefully they'll get off their backsides and fix them. Peter -----Original Message----- From: Brandon Keith Biggs Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 9:54 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application Hello, Does anyone know if there are scripts for the new WLM? I'm running Windows Vista and Jaws 11 and I just installed WLM. It seems as if it is utilizing ribbons instead of a menu bar, so I'm stuck with a not-so-good way of changing my settings. Also the spell check is horrible because it just tells the word that it wants to change to, not the misspelled word. I don't think this problem was on the old Windows Live Mail but I don't know how to get an earlier version of WLM. Thanks, Brandon Keith Biggs -----Original Message----- From: Peter Holdstock Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 1:21 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application I think all of us agree that John should get some recompense for his work and I think many offered to pay something for the fnatastic Itunes scripts. Perhaps having a paypal link on his site would be a good idea for voluntary contributions although if he came up with realistic prices I'd be happy to consider whether I need the product or not. Peter -----Original Message----- From: Marquette, Ed Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 8:29 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: RE: JAWS Scripting for a new application At the risk of starting a conflagration of controversy, I would like to support the notion that John should get some remuneration for his hard work -- even if he charged for scripts. I know I would pay significantly for a set of scripts that made Google Docs accessable, though I think that is not feasible. The biggest single area of inaccessibility I encounter on my job is with respect to on-line collaboration. I have clients who regularly send invitations to go-to-meeting sessions where a document will be on the screen, albeit from the client's computer. We will be on the phone together, and sometimes the client will make edits he wants me to review, and sometimes he will say simply, "Here, I'll give you control. Why don't you revise this section on indemnification?" I accomplish this only with the assistance of my sighted secretary. Without her presence, I would be sunk. Serotek has something called Accessable Event, but that really doesn't cut it. Again, this may be an application of limited applicability, but I run into it all the time, and document collaboration is becoming more and more popular. I hear ads for Go-To-Meeting almost every time I tune into XM Radio, and note the popularity of Google Docs, not just because it is cheap, but also because it offers collaboration. This may simply be impossible and not everyone needs it, but if you need it, you need it bad. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Chris Smart Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 2:11 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application Ok, so with most of the Office applications scripted for, not to mention iTunes, and the various parts of Windows, what else would the masses of unemployed blind folks with limitted incomes like access to? With the basics that most people want to use daily covered, we're probably going to move into more specialized applications that not as many people require. If said application is something that some of us who work or are trying to find work need access to, maybe we should donate a little cash to John for his hard work and probably hundreds of hours spent scripting. Just a thought. 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Peter Holdstock <ptrholdstock@...> #4244 Not sure sorry John. As I say WLM doesn't need huge improvements and if your last work was anything to go by you'll probably have it cleaned up in a matter of hours. If you'd find it useful for users to report the issues they have let us know. Peter Peter toggle quoted messageShow quoted text -----Original Message----- From: John Martyn Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 2:09 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: JAWS Scripting for a new application I could do WLM for fun while I am gearing up for the next application. I'm personally using Outlook 2010 and I hate it so perhaps I could make the switch. Does it import outlook express and outlook 2010 messages. What about profiles? Thanks, this will help me in the short run of things. John -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:05 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application There's a good idea John. WLM is used by many but has it's very silly querks and it would be great if we could get an email client working perfectly well with JAWS. I reckon it would only take you a day or so to fix everything as much of it is stupid stuff like graphics not been labelled so the user has to do it themselves so it will then identify unread messages, collapsed conversations etc and the calendar function isn't ideal. Could be a quick bit of work and create many happy JAWS users. That said I know I and many others have repeatedly reported these issues to FS including during the JAWS 13 beta so hopefully they'll get off their backsides and fix them. Peter -----Original Message----- From: Brandon Keith Biggs Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 9:54 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application Hello, Does anyone know if there are scripts for the new WLM? I'm running Windows Vista and Jaws 11 and I just installed WLM. It seems as if it is utilizing ribbons instead of a menu bar, so I'm stuck with a not-so-good way of changing my settings. Also the spell check is horrible because it just tells the word that it wants to change to, not the misspelled word. I don't think this problem was on the old Windows Live Mail but I don't know how to get an earlier version of WLM. Thanks, Brandon Keith Biggs -----Original Message----- From: Peter Holdstock Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 1:21 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application I think all of us agree that John should get some recompense for his work and I think many offered to pay something for the fnatastic Itunes scripts. Perhaps having a paypal link on his site would be a good idea for voluntary contributions although if he came up with realistic prices I'd be happy to consider whether I need the product or not. Peter -----Original Message----- From: Marquette, Ed Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 8:29 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: RE: JAWS Scripting for a new application At the risk of starting a conflagration of controversy, I would like to support the notion that John should get some remuneration for his hard work -- even if he charged for scripts. I know I would pay significantly for a set of scripts that made Google Docs accessable, though I think that is not feasible. The biggest single area of inaccessibility I encounter on my job is with respect to on-line collaboration. I have clients who regularly send invitations to go-to-meeting sessions where a document will be on the screen, albeit from the client's computer. We will be on the phone together, and sometimes the client will make edits he wants me to review, and sometimes he will say simply, "Here, I'll give you control. Why don't you revise this section on indemnification?" I accomplish this only with the assistance of my sighted secretary. Without her presence, I would be sunk. Serotek has something called Accessable Event, but that really doesn't cut it. Again, this may be an application of limited applicability, but I run into it all the time, and document collaboration is becoming more and more popular. I hear ads for Go-To-Meeting almost every time I tune into XM Radio, and note the popularity of Google Docs, not just because it is cheap, but also because it offers collaboration. This may simply be impossible and not everyone needs it, but if you need it, you need it bad. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Chris Smart Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 2:11 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application Ok, so with most of the Office applications scripted for, not to mention iTunes, and the various parts of Windows, what else would the masses of unemployed blind folks with limitted incomes like access to? With the basics that most people want to use daily covered, we're probably going to move into more specialized applications that not as many people require. If said application is something that some of us who work or are trying to find work need access to, maybe we should donate a little cash to John for his hard work and probably hundreds of hours spent scripting. Just a thought. 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Dave... #4243 What does the iPhone have to do with Outlook Express and WLM? Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area toggle quoted messageShow quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 18:12 Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application if you use iPhone, you can not transfer your emails addresses. Only works for outlook. -----Original Message----- From: John Martyn Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 8:09 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: JAWS Scripting for a new application I could do WLM for fun while I am gearing up for the next application. I'm personally using Outlook 2010 and I hate it so perhaps I could make the switch. Does it import outlook express and outlook 2010 messages. What about profiles? Thanks, this will help me in the short run of things. John -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:05 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application There's a good idea John. WLM is used by many but has it's very silly querks and it would be great if we could get an email client working perfectly well with JAWS. I reckon it would only take you a day or so to fix everything as much of it is stupid stuff like graphics not been labelled so the user has to do it themselves so it will then identify unread messages, collapsed conversations etc and the calendar function isn't ideal. Could be a quick bit of work and create many happy JAWS users. That said I know I and many others have repeatedly reported these issues to FS including during the JAWS 13 beta so hopefully they'll get off their backsides and fix them. Peter -----Original Message----- From: Brandon Keith Biggs Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 9:54 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application Hello, Does anyone know if there are scripts for the new WLM? I'm running Windows Vista and Jaws 11 and I just installed WLM. It seems as if it is utilizing ribbons instead of a menu bar, so I'm stuck with a not-so-good way of changing my settings. Also the spell check is horrible because it just tells the word that it wants to change to, not the misspelled word. I don't think this problem was on the old Windows Live Mail but I don't know how to get an earlier version of WLM. Thanks, Brandon Keith Biggs -----Original Message----- From: Peter Holdstock Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 1:21 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application I think all of us agree that John should get some recompense for his work and I think many offered to pay something for the fnatastic Itunes scripts. Perhaps having a paypal link on his site would be a good idea for voluntary contributions although if he came up with realistic prices I'd be happy to consider whether I need the product or not. Peter -----Original Message----- From: Marquette, Ed Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 8:29 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: RE: JAWS Scripting for a new application At the risk of starting a conflagration of controversy, I would like to support the notion that John should get some remuneration for his hard work -- even if he charged for scripts. I know I would pay significantly for a set of scripts that made Google Docs accessable, though I think that is not feasible. The biggest single area of inaccessibility I encounter on my job is with respect to on-line collaboration. I have clients who regularly send invitations to go-to-meeting sessions where a document will be on the screen, albeit from the client's computer. We will be on the phone together, and sometimes the client will make edits he wants me to review, and sometimes he will say simply, "Here, I'll give you control. Why don't you revise this section on indemnification?" I accomplish this only with the assistance of my sighted secretary. Without her presence, I would be sunk. Serotek has something called Accessable Event, but that really doesn't cut it. Again, this may be an application of limited applicability, but I run into it all the time, and document collaboration is becoming more and more popular. I hear ads for Go-To-Meeting almost every time I tune into XM Radio, and note the popularity of Google Docs, not just because it is cheap, but also because it offers collaboration. This may simply be impossible and not everyone needs it, but if you need it, you need it bad. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Chris Smart Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 2:11 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application Ok, so with most of the Office applications scripted for, not to mention iTunes, and the various parts of Windows, what else would the masses of unemployed blind folks with limitted incomes like access to? With the basics that most people want to use daily covered, we're probably going to move into more specialized applications that not as many people require. If said application is something that some of us who work or are trying to find work need access to, maybe we should donate a little cash to John for his hard work and probably hundreds of hours spent scripting. Just a thought. 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Dave... #4242 John, It will import Outlook Express messages and contact, but not any rules you may have created. If you export Outlook 2007 to the correct format, I think it will also import those, but have never had a reason to find out. Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area toggle quoted messageShow quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Martyn" <johnrobertmartyn@gmail.com> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 18:09 Subject: RE: JAWS Scripting for a new application I could do WLM for fun while I am gearing up for the next application. I'm personally using Outlook 2010 and I hate it so perhaps I could make the switch. Does it import outlook express and outlook 2010 messages. What about profiles? Thanks, this will help me in the short run of things. John -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:05 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application There's a good idea John. WLM is used by many but has it's very silly querks and it would be great if we could get an email client working perfectly well with JAWS. I reckon it would only take you a day or so to fix everything as much of it is stupid stuff like graphics not been labelled so the user has to do it themselves so it will then identify unread messages, collapsed conversations etc and the calendar function isn't ideal. Could be a quick bit of work and create many happy JAWS users. That said I know I and many others have repeatedly reported these issues to FS including during the JAWS 13 beta so hopefully they'll get off their backsides and fix them. Peter -----Original Message----- From: Brandon Keith Biggs Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 9:54 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application Hello, Does anyone know if there are scripts for the new WLM? I'm running Windows Vista and Jaws 11 and I just installed WLM. It seems as if it is utilizing ribbons instead of a menu bar, so I'm stuck with a not-so-good way of changing my settings. Also the spell check is horrible because it just tells the word that it wants to change to, not the misspelled word. I don't think this problem was on the old Windows Live Mail but I don't know how to get an earlier version of WLM. Thanks, Brandon Keith Biggs -----Original Message----- From: Peter Holdstock Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 1:21 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application I think all of us agree that John should get some recompense for his work and I think many offered to pay something for the fnatastic Itunes scripts. Perhaps having a paypal link on his site would be a good idea for voluntary contributions although if he came up with realistic prices I'd be happy to consider whether I need the product or not. Peter -----Original Message----- From: Marquette, Ed Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 8:29 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: RE: JAWS Scripting for a new application At the risk of starting a conflagration of controversy, I would like to support the notion that John should get some remuneration for his hard work -- even if he charged for scripts. I know I would pay significantly for a set of scripts that made Google Docs accessable, though I think that is not feasible. The biggest single area of inaccessibility I encounter on my job is with respect to on-line collaboration. I have clients who regularly send invitations to go-to-meeting sessions where a document will be on the screen, albeit from the client's computer. We will be on the phone together, and sometimes the client will make edits he wants me to review, and sometimes he will say simply, "Here, I'll give you control. Why don't you revise this section on indemnification?" I accomplish this only with the assistance of my sighted secretary. Without her presence, I would be sunk. Serotek has something called Accessable Event, but that really doesn't cut it. Again, this may be an application of limited applicability, but I run into it all the time, and document collaboration is becoming more and more popular. I hear ads for Go-To-Meeting almost every time I tune into XM Radio, and note the popularity of Google Docs, not just because it is cheap, but also because it offers collaboration. This may simply be impossible and not everyone needs it, but if you need it, you need it bad. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Chris Smart Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 2:11 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application Ok, so with most of the Office applications scripted for, not to mention iTunes, and the various parts of Windows, what else would the masses of unemployed blind folks with limitted incomes like access to? With the basics that most people want to use daily covered, we're probably going to move into more specialized applications that not as many people require. If said application is something that some of us who work or are trying to find work need access to, maybe we should donate a little cash to John for his hard work and probably hundreds of hours spent scripting. Just a thought. 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Holger Fiallo <holgerfiallo@...> #4241 if you use iPhone, you can not transfer your emails addresses. Only works for outlook. toggle quoted messageShow quoted text -----Original Message----- From: John Martyn Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 8:09 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: JAWS Scripting for a new application I could do WLM for fun while I am gearing up for the next application. I'm personally using Outlook 2010 and I hate it so perhaps I could make the switch. Does it import outlook express and outlook 2010 messages. What about profiles? Thanks, this will help me in the short run of things. John -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:05 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application There's a good idea John. WLM is used by many but has it's very silly querks and it would be great if we could get an email client working perfectly well with JAWS. I reckon it would only take you a day or so to fix everything as much of it is stupid stuff like graphics not been labelled so the user has to do it themselves so it will then identify unread messages, collapsed conversations etc and the calendar function isn't ideal. Could be a quick bit of work and create many happy JAWS users. That said I know I and many others have repeatedly reported these issues to FS including during the JAWS 13 beta so hopefully they'll get off their backsides and fix them. Peter -----Original Message----- From: Brandon Keith Biggs Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 9:54 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application Hello, Does anyone know if there are scripts for the new WLM? I'm running Windows Vista and Jaws 11 and I just installed WLM. It seems as if it is utilizing ribbons instead of a menu bar, so I'm stuck with a not-so-good way of changing my settings. Also the spell check is horrible because it just tells the word that it wants to change to, not the misspelled word. I don't think this problem was on the old Windows Live Mail but I don't know how to get an earlier version of WLM. Thanks, Brandon Keith Biggs -----Original Message----- From: Peter Holdstock Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 1:21 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application I think all of us agree that John should get some recompense for his work and I think many offered to pay something for the fnatastic Itunes scripts. Perhaps having a paypal link on his site would be a good idea for voluntary contributions although if he came up with realistic prices I'd be happy to consider whether I need the product or not. Peter -----Original Message----- From: Marquette, Ed Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 8:29 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: RE: JAWS Scripting for a new application At the risk of starting a conflagration of controversy, I would like to support the notion that John should get some remuneration for his hard work -- even if he charged for scripts. I know I would pay significantly for a set of scripts that made Google Docs accessable, though I think that is not feasible. The biggest single area of inaccessibility I encounter on my job is with respect to on-line collaboration. I have clients who regularly send invitations to go-to-meeting sessions where a document will be on the screen, albeit from the client's computer. We will be on the phone together, and sometimes the client will make edits he wants me to review, and sometimes he will say simply, "Here, I'll give you control. Why don't you revise this section on indemnification?" I accomplish this only with the assistance of my sighted secretary. Without her presence, I would be sunk. Serotek has something called Accessable Event, but that really doesn't cut it. Again, this may be an application of limited applicability, but I run into it all the time, and document collaboration is becoming more and more popular. I hear ads for Go-To-Meeting almost every time I tune into XM Radio, and note the popularity of Google Docs, not just because it is cheap, but also because it offers collaboration. This may simply be impossible and not everyone needs it, but if you need it, you need it bad. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Chris Smart Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 2:11 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application Ok, so with most of the Office applications scripted for, not to mention iTunes, and the various parts of Windows, what else would the masses of unemployed blind folks with limitted incomes like access to? With the basics that most people want to use daily covered, we're probably going to move into more specialized applications that not as many people require. If said application is something that some of us who work or are trying to find work need access to, maybe we should donate a little cash to John for his hard work and probably hundreds of hours spent scripting. Just a thought. Of course, any donations would be voluntary. -------------------------------------------------- CTS MASTERING: PROFESSIONAL MIXING AND MASTERING Clear True Sound www.ctsmastering.com and be sure to "like us" on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/CTS-Mastering/139114066128698 _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ############################################################################ ################################# ANY FEDERAL TAX ADVICE CONTAINED IN THIS MESSAGE SHOULD NOT BE USED OR REFERRED TO IN THE PROMOTING, MARKETING OR RECOMMENDING OF ANY ENTITY, INVESTMENT PLAN OR ARRANGEMENT, AND SUCH ADVICE IS NOT INTENDED OR WRITTEN TO BE USED, AND CANNOT BE USED, BY A TAXPAYER FOR THE PURPOSE OF AVOIDING PENALTIES UNDER THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE. ############################################################################ ################################# This E-mail message is confidential, is intended only for the named recipient(s) above and may contain information that is privileged, attorney work product or otherwise protected by applicable law. 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John Martyn #4240 I could do WLM for fun while I am gearing up for the next application. I'm personally using Outlook 2010 and I hate it so perhaps I could make the switch. Does it import outlook express and outlook 2010 messages. What about profiles? Thanks, this will help me in the short run of things. John toggle quoted messageShow quoted text -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:05 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application There's a good idea John. WLM is used by many but has it's very silly querks and it would be great if we could get an email client working perfectly well with JAWS. I reckon it would only take you a day or so to fix everything as much of it is stupid stuff like graphics not been labelled so the user has to do it themselves so it will then identify unread messages, collapsed conversations etc and the calendar function isn't ideal. Could be a quick bit of work and create many happy JAWS users. That said I know I and many others have repeatedly reported these issues to FS including during the JAWS 13 beta so hopefully they'll get off their backsides and fix them. Peter -----Original Message----- From: Brandon Keith Biggs Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 9:54 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application Hello, Does anyone know if there are scripts for the new WLM? I'm running Windows Vista and Jaws 11 and I just installed WLM. It seems as if it is utilizing ribbons instead of a menu bar, so I'm stuck with a not-so-good way of changing my settings. Also the spell check is horrible because it just tells the word that it wants to change to, not the misspelled word. I don't think this problem was on the old Windows Live Mail but I don't know how to get an earlier version of WLM. Thanks, Brandon Keith Biggs -----Original Message----- From: Peter Holdstock Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 1:21 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application I think all of us agree that John should get some recompense for his work and I think many offered to pay something for the fnatastic Itunes scripts. Perhaps having a paypal link on his site would be a good idea for voluntary contributions although if he came up with realistic prices I'd be happy to consider whether I need the product or not. Peter -----Original Message----- From: Marquette, Ed Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 8:29 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: RE: JAWS Scripting for a new application At the risk of starting a conflagration of controversy, I would like to support the notion that John should get some remuneration for his hard work -- even if he charged for scripts. I know I would pay significantly for a set of scripts that made Google Docs accessable, though I think that is not feasible. The biggest single area of inaccessibility I encounter on my job is with respect to on-line collaboration. I have clients who regularly send invitations to go-to-meeting sessions where a document will be on the screen, albeit from the client's computer. We will be on the phone together, and sometimes the client will make edits he wants me to review, and sometimes he will say simply, "Here, I'll give you control. Why don't you revise this section on indemnification?" I accomplish this only with the assistance of my sighted secretary. Without her presence, I would be sunk. Serotek has something called Accessable Event, but that really doesn't cut it. Again, this may be an application of limited applicability, but I run into it all the time, and document collaboration is becoming more and more popular. I hear ads for Go-To-Meeting almost every time I tune into XM Radio, and note the popularity of Google Docs, not just because it is cheap, but also because it offers collaboration. This may simply be impossible and not everyone needs it, but if you need it, you need it bad. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Chris Smart Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 2:11 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application Ok, so with most of the Office applications scripted for, not to mention iTunes, and the various parts of Windows, what else would the masses of unemployed blind folks with limitted incomes like access to? With the basics that most people want to use daily covered, we're probably going to move into more specialized applications that not as many people require. If said application is something that some of us who work or are trying to find work need access to, maybe we should donate a little cash to John for his hard work and probably hundreds of hours spent scripting. Just a thought. 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John Martyn #4239 Not really, I have a slew of tools I have scripted for myself and use the JAWS cursor to move about to see what's there. John toggle quoted messageShow quoted text -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 2:35 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application Do you need to be sighted to be able to script efficiently? I'm assuming it depends on what level the scripting is required i.e. at work we use an application which requires every form field on the scrreen to be input including it's location, size, type etc and that's the more basic stuff. I'm assuming to be able to do that you would physically need to be able to see the screen? Peter -----Original Message----- From: Debbie Kessler Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 9:50 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application This is an area that Rehab should have looked into a long time ago; funding for small businesses to get their proprietary programs scripted. A lot of money has been spent through schools to have people trained only to have much unaccessible because of specialty programs. Debbie, Chaz & Jessie e-mail: jessesgirl@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Smart" <csmart8@cogeco.ca> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 12:10 PM Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application Ok, so with most of the Office applications scripted for, not to mention iTunes, and the various parts of Windows, what else would the masses of unemployed blind folks with limitted incomes like access to? With the basics that most people want to use daily covered, we're probably going to move into more specialized applications that not as many people require. If said application is something that some of us who work or are trying to find work need access to, maybe we should donate a little cash to John for his hard work and probably hundreds of hours spent scripting. Just a thought. Of course, any donations would be voluntary. -------------------------------------------------- CTS MASTERING: PROFESSIONAL MIXING AND MASTERING Clear True Sound www.ctsmastering.com and be sure to "like us" on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/CTS-Mastering/139114066128698 _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Peter Holdstock <ptrholdstock@...> #4231 Cheers John. Even you just talking to them about it might embaress them a little enough to get them to make the changes. Peter toggle quoted messageShow quoted text -----Original Message----- From: John Martyn Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 9:06 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: JAWS Scripting for a new application That is a great suggestion. I'll talk to FS about this. John -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:05 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application There's a good idea John. WLM is used by many but has it's very silly querks and it would be great if we could get an email client working perfectly well with JAWS. I reckon it would only take you a day or so to fix everything as much of it is stupid stuff like graphics not been labelled so the user has to do it themselves so it will then identify unread messages, collapsed conversations etc and the calendar function isn't ideal. Could be a quick bit of work and create many happy JAWS users. That said I know I and many others have repeatedly reported these issues to FS including during the JAWS 13 beta so hopefully they'll get off their backsides and fix them. Peter -----Original Message----- From: Brandon Keith Biggs Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 9:54 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application Hello, Does anyone know if there are scripts for the new WLM? I'm running Windows Vista and Jaws 11 and I just installed WLM. It seems as if it is utilizing ribbons instead of a menu bar, so I'm stuck with a not-so-good way of changing my settings. Also the spell check is horrible because it just tells the word that it wants to change to, not the misspelled word. I don't think this problem was on the old Windows Live Mail but I don't know how to get an earlier version of WLM. Thanks, Brandon Keith Biggs -----Original Message----- From: Peter Holdstock Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 1:21 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application I think all of us agree that John should get some recompense for his work and I think many offered to pay something for the fnatastic Itunes scripts. Perhaps having a paypal link on his site would be a good idea for voluntary contributions although if he came up with realistic prices I'd be happy to consider whether I need the product or not. Peter -----Original Message----- From: Marquette, Ed Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 8:29 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: RE: JAWS Scripting for a new application At the risk of starting a conflagration of controversy, I would like to support the notion that John should get some remuneration for his hard work -- even if he charged for scripts. I know I would pay significantly for a set of scripts that made Google Docs accessable, though I think that is not feasible. The biggest single area of inaccessibility I encounter on my job is with respect to on-line collaboration. I have clients who regularly send invitations to go-to-meeting sessions where a document will be on the screen, albeit from the client's computer. We will be on the phone together, and sometimes the client will make edits he wants me to review, and sometimes he will say simply, "Here, I'll give you control. Why don't you revise this section on indemnification?" I accomplish this only with the assistance of my sighted secretary. Without her presence, I would be sunk. Serotek has something called Accessable Event, but that really doesn't cut it. Again, this may be an application of limited applicability, but I run into it all the time, and document collaboration is becoming more and more popular. I hear ads for Go-To-Meeting almost every time I tune into XM Radio, and note the popularity of Google Docs, not just because it is cheap, but also because it offers collaboration. This may simply be impossible and not everyone needs it, but if you need it, you need it bad. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Chris Smart Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 2:11 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application Ok, so with most of the Office applications scripted for, not to mention iTunes, and the various parts of Windows, what else would the masses of unemployed blind folks with limitted incomes like access to? With the basics that most people want to use daily covered, we're probably going to move into more specialized applications that not as many people require. If said application is something that some of us who work or are trying to find work need access to, maybe we should donate a little cash to John for his hard work and probably hundreds of hours spent scripting. Just a thought. Of course, any donations would be voluntary. -------------------------------------------------- CTS MASTERING: PROFESSIONAL MIXING AND MASTERING Clear True Sound www.ctsmastering.com and be sure to "like us" on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/CTS-Mastering/139114066128698 _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ############################################################################ ################################# ANY FEDERAL TAX ADVICE CONTAINED IN THIS MESSAGE SHOULD NOT BE USED OR REFERRED TO IN THE PROMOTING, MARKETING OR RECOMMENDING OF ANY ENTITY, INVESTMENT PLAN OR ARRANGEMENT, AND SUCH ADVICE IS NOT INTENDED OR WRITTEN TO BE USED, AND CANNOT BE USED, BY A TAXPAYER FOR THE PURPOSE OF AVOIDING PENALTIES UNDER THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE. ############################################################################ ################################# This E-mail message is confidential, is intended only for the named recipient(s) above and may contain information that is privileged, attorney work product or otherwise protected by applicable law. 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Peter Holdstock <ptrholdstock@...> #4228 Do you need to be sighted to be able to script efficiently? I'm assuming it depends on what level the scripting is required i.e. at work we use an application which requires every form field on the scrreen to be input including it's location, size, type etc and that's the more basic stuff. I'm assuming to be able to do that you would physically need to be able to see the screen? Peter toggle quoted messageShow quoted text -----Original Message----- From: Debbie Kessler Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 9:50 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application This is an area that Rehab should have looked into a long time ago; funding for small businesses to get their proprietary programs scripted. A lot of money has been spent through schools to have people trained only to have much unaccessible because of specialty programs. Debbie, Chaz & Jessie e-mail: jessesgirl@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Smart" <csmart8@cogeco.ca> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 12:10 PM Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application Ok, so with most of the Office applications scripted for, not to mention iTunes, and the various parts of Windows, what else would the masses of unemployed blind folks with limitted incomes like access to? With the basics that most people want to use daily covered, we're probably going to move into more specialized applications that not as many people require. If said application is something that some of us who work or are trying to find work need access to, maybe we should donate a little cash to John for his hard work and probably hundreds of hours spent scripting. Just a thought. Of course, any donations would be voluntary. -------------------------------------------------- CTS MASTERING: PROFESSIONAL MIXING AND MASTERING Clear True Sound www.ctsmastering.com and be sure to "like us" on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/CTS-Mastering/139114066128698 _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Debbie Kessler #4226 This is an area that Rehab should have looked into a long time ago; funding for small businesses to get their proprietary programs scripted. A lot of money has been spent through schools to have people trained only to have much unaccessible because of specialty programs. Debbie, Chaz & Jessie e-mail: jessesgirl@earthlink.net toggle quoted messageShow quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Smart" <csmart8@cogeco.ca> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 12:10 PM Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application Ok, so with most of the Office applications scripted for, not to mention iTunes, and the various parts of Windows, what else would the masses of unemployed blind folks with limitted incomes like access to? With the basics that most people want to use daily covered, we're probably going to move into more specialized applications that not as many people require. If said application is something that some of us who work or are trying to find work need access to, maybe we should donate a little cash to John for his hard work and probably hundreds of hours spent scripting. Just a thought. Of course, any donations would be voluntary. -------------------------------------------------- CTS MASTERING: PROFESSIONAL MIXING AND MASTERING Clear True Sound www.ctsmastering.com and be sure to "like us" on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/CTS-Mastering/139114066128698 _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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John Martyn #4225 That is a great suggestion. I'll talk to FS about this. John toggle quoted messageShow quoted text -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:05 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application There's a good idea John. WLM is used by many but has it's very silly querks and it would be great if we could get an email client working perfectly well with JAWS. I reckon it would only take you a day or so to fix everything as much of it is stupid stuff like graphics not been labelled so the user has to do it themselves so it will then identify unread messages, collapsed conversations etc and the calendar function isn't ideal. Could be a quick bit of work and create many happy JAWS users. That said I know I and many others have repeatedly reported these issues to FS including during the JAWS 13 beta so hopefully they'll get off their backsides and fix them. Peter -----Original Message----- From: Brandon Keith Biggs Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 9:54 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application Hello, Does anyone know if there are scripts for the new WLM? I'm running Windows Vista and Jaws 11 and I just installed WLM. It seems as if it is utilizing ribbons instead of a menu bar, so I'm stuck with a not-so-good way of changing my settings. Also the spell check is horrible because it just tells the word that it wants to change to, not the misspelled word. I don't think this problem was on the old Windows Live Mail but I don't know how to get an earlier version of WLM. Thanks, Brandon Keith Biggs -----Original Message----- From: Peter Holdstock Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 1:21 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application I think all of us agree that John should get some recompense for his work and I think many offered to pay something for the fnatastic Itunes scripts. Perhaps having a paypal link on his site would be a good idea for voluntary contributions although if he came up with realistic prices I'd be happy to consider whether I need the product or not. Peter -----Original Message----- From: Marquette, Ed Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 8:29 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: RE: JAWS Scripting for a new application At the risk of starting a conflagration of controversy, I would like to support the notion that John should get some remuneration for his hard work -- even if he charged for scripts. I know I would pay significantly for a set of scripts that made Google Docs accessable, though I think that is not feasible. The biggest single area of inaccessibility I encounter on my job is with respect to on-line collaboration. I have clients who regularly send invitations to go-to-meeting sessions where a document will be on the screen, albeit from the client's computer. We will be on the phone together, and sometimes the client will make edits he wants me to review, and sometimes he will say simply, "Here, I'll give you control. Why don't you revise this section on indemnification?" I accomplish this only with the assistance of my sighted secretary. Without her presence, I would be sunk. Serotek has something called Accessable Event, but that really doesn't cut it. Again, this may be an application of limited applicability, but I run into it all the time, and document collaboration is becoming more and more popular. I hear ads for Go-To-Meeting almost every time I tune into XM Radio, and note the popularity of Google Docs, not just because it is cheap, but also because it offers collaboration. This may simply be impossible and not everyone needs it, but if you need it, you need it bad. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Chris Smart Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 2:11 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application Ok, so with most of the Office applications scripted for, not to mention iTunes, and the various parts of Windows, what else would the masses of unemployed blind folks with limitted incomes like access to? With the basics that most people want to use daily covered, we're probably going to move into more specialized applications that not as many people require. If said application is something that some of us who work or are trying to find work need access to, maybe we should donate a little cash to John for his hard work and probably hundreds of hours spent scripting. Just a thought. 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Chris Smart <csmart8@...> #4221 Hi Dave. Ok, your point is well-taken. I guess I'll amend my comment to say that if you were going to learn a first programming language, Jaws scripting would be an easy one, compared to say C, especially with the Script manager and other things helping you generate the necessary code. Chris -------------------------------------------------- CTS MASTERING: PROFESSIONAL MIXING AND MASTERING Clear True Sound www.ctsmastering.com and be sure to "like us" on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/CTS-Mastering/139114066128698
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Peter Holdstock <ptrholdstock@...> #4220 C Cleaner is already fully accessible! Peter toggle quoted messageShow quoted text -----Original Message----- From: kaveinthran Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 5:25 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application hi sir, You can try adobe audition or CCleaner or, even audacity On 10/24/2011 2:21 AM, John Martyn wrote: Hi all, While I wrap up some last minute scripting projects, I am looking for a new application to script. I won't be doing any financial applications or office applications this time, but any other suggestions are welcome. I've gotten rather quick at doing this so challenges are also welcome. John Martyn _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonboy13@...> #4252 Oh, thank you! I had no idea about that command! Jaws doesn't look more complicated than scripting for any other application. You just need to have a deep understanding of Jaws and a good understanding of the application you want to script. Then you have to grasp the fact that scripting is not programing, because you aren’t creating anything new. You are just telling Jaws what to do. Then you need to read and memorize all the formatting issues you have to cover in your lines of script, then you have to have your reference guide up every time you want to script because I've herd Jaws is harder than normal to write. (you have to learn what "include", "let" "string" "Function Retrieve", "Handle" "int" and all those single words or abbreviations stand for and what they do. If you are willing to do that than scripting shouldn't be too difficult. Thanks, P.S. Does anyone know if Jaws has a record command function? So you can create strings of commands Jaws will execute with an alias? Or I think that's called macroing or Aliasing. Because that would be the only time I'd ever feel worth learning another scripting language. Thanks, Brandon Keith Biggs toggle quoted messageShow quoted text -----Original Message----- From: Dave Scrimenti Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 9:35 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application Perhaps I'm overestimating the difficulty, but I certainly wouldn't want to do scripting without knowing programming. If you want to know what it's like, hit jaws key plus zero in a scripted application to read the scripts. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Smart" <csmart8@cogeco.ca> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 9:39 AM Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application Go into Start Menu, Jaws, Explore Jaws, and press ENTER on Explore the Manuals. That will open a folder. Press ENTER on. No you don't need a programming background to get started. Chris At 02:51 AM 10/24/2011, you wrote: Hello, From where we can get these scripts? Can anyone work on, with the scripts to make an application accessible? How can I learnthis, so that I can do scripting? Does scripting require any programming background? Thank you in advance. ----- Original Message ----- From: "kaveinthran" <kavein2211@gmail.com> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 9:55 AM Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application hi sir, You can try adobe audition or CCleaner or, even audacity On 10/24/2011 2:21 AM, John Martyn wrote: Hi all, While I wrap up some last minute scripting projects, I am looking for a new application to script. I won't be doing any financial applications or office applications this time, but any other suggestions are welcome. 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In your browser, press and hold INSERT and press F1 twice quickly. Once JAWS help is open, press F6 to move to the help topic window. General Go Back a Page ALT+LEFT ARROW or BACKSPACE Go Forward a Page ALT+RIGHT ARROW Go to Home Page ALT+HOME Read Address Bar INSERT+A Next Link TAB Prior Link SHIFT+TAB Open Link ENTER List Frames INSERT+F9 List Links INSERT+F7 List Headings INSERT+F6 Heading at Level 1 through 6 Personalized Web Settings SHIFT+INSERT+V Virtual HTML Features INSERT+F3 Activate Mouse Over CTRL+INSERT+ENTER Move to Next Clickable Element SLASH Move to Previous Clickable Element SHIFT+SLASH Select Clickable Element INSERT+CTRL+SLASH Select a Mouse Over Element INSERT+WINDOWS KEY+SEMICOLON JAWS Find Next and Previous F3 and SHIFT+F3 (Internet Explorer only) Assign Custom Label CTRL+INSERT+TAB Move to Next Landmark SEMICOLON Move to Previous Landmark SHIFT+SEMICOLON Select a Landmark INSERT+CTRL+SEMICOLON ARIA Drag-and-Drop WINDOWS Key+CTRL+EQUALS ARIA Live Region Text Filter WINDOWS Key+CTRL+DASH Tabbed Browsing Quick Keys Open a New Tab CTRL+T Open a New Tab from the Address Bar ALT+ENTER (on address bar) Open a New Tab from the Toolbar Search Box ALT+ENTER (on address bar) View List of Open Tabs CTRL+SHIFT+Q Toggle Quick Tabs (Thumbnail View) CTRL+Q Switch to the Next Tab CTRL+TAB Switch to the Previous Tab CTRL+SHIFT+TAB Switch to a Specific Tab Number CTRL+n, where n is a digit from 1 through 8 Switch to Last Tab CTRL+9 Close Current Tab CTRL+W or CTRL+F4 Close All Tabs ALT+F4 Close Other Tabs CTRL+ALT+F4 Open Links in a New Tab in the Background CTRL+ENTER Open Links in a New Tab in the Foreground CTRL+SHIFT+ENTER Opens and places focus on the Feeds tree view CTRL+J Subscribe to Feeds or Web Slices ALT+J (Internet Explorer 8 or later for Web Slices) Navigation Quick Keys Tip: If you hold down SHIFT before pressing one of the following Navigation Quick Keys, you can move to the previous instance of that element, for example, press A to move to the next anchor, press SHIFT+A to move to the previous anchor. In addition, if you hold down CTRL+INSERT while pressing keystrokes with an asterisk () next to them, JAWS displays a list of those elements on the page. Next Anchor A Next Button B* Next Combo Box C* Next Different Element D Next Edit Box E* Next Form Control F Next Graphic G* Next Heading H Next Item in a List I Jump to Line J* Next PlaceMarker K* Next List L* Next Frame M Skip Past Links N Next Object Tag O Next Paragraph P* Next Quote Q* Next Radio Button R* Next Same Element S Next Table T* Next Unvisited Link U Next Visited Link V Next Check Box X* Next Division Z* Next Element SHIFT+PERIOD Previous Element SHIFT+COMMA Forms Enter Forms Mode ENTER Exit Forms Mode NUM PAD PLUS List Form Fields INSERT+F5 First Form Field INSERT+CTRL+HOME Next Form Field F Prior Form Field SHIFT+F Last Form Field INSERT+CTRL+END Next Button B Prior Button SHIFT+B List Buttons CTRL+INSERT+B Next Combo Box C Prior Combo Box SHIFT+C List Combo Boxes CTRL+INSERT+C Next Edit Box E Prior Edit Box SHIFT+E List Edit Boxes CTRL+INSERT+E Next Radio Button R Prior Radio Button SHIFT+R List Radio Buttons CTRL+INSERT+R Next Check Box X Prior Check Box SHIFT+X List Check Boxes CTRL+INSERT+X Tables Next Table T Prior Table SHIFT+T Select Table F8 Next Row WINDOWS KEY+ALT+DOWN ARROW Prior Row WINDOWS KEY+ALT+UP ARROW Read Row WINDOWS KEY+COMMA or WINDOWS KEY+NUM PAD 5 Next Column WINDOWS KEY+ALT+RIGHT ARROW Prior Column WINDOWS KEY+ALT+LEFT ARROW Read Column WINDOWS KEY+PERIOD Next Cell in Row ALT+CTRL+RIGHT ARROW Prior Cell in Row ALT+CTRL+LEFT ARROW Cell Below in Column ALT+CTRL+DOWN ARROW Cell Above in Column ALT+CTRL+UP ARROW Jump to Table Cell CTRL+WINDOWS KEY+J Return to Previous Cell CTRL+WINDOWS KEY+SHIFT+J PlaceMarkers Set Temporary PlaceMarker (Permanent Marker for Word) CTRL+WINDOWS Key+K Add, Delete, Edit, or Rename Permanent PlaceMarkers CTRL+SHIFT+K Move to the Next or Prior PlaceMarker K or SHIFT+K Read Text at PlaceMarkers 1 through 4 Number Row Keys 7 through 0 Move to PlaceMarker 1 through 4 SHIFT+ number row keys 7 through 0 Return to PlaceMarker in Word WINDOWS Key+K Select Text from PlaceMarker to Cursor Position in Word INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by M Frames Next Frame M Prior Frame SHIFT+M List Frames INSERT+F9 Elements Next Same Element S Prior Same Element SHIFT+S Next Different Element D Prior Different Element SHIFT+D Next Element SHIFT+PERIOD Prior Element SHIFT+COMMA Select Entire Element F8 Display Entire Element SHIFT+INSERT+F1 Display Detailed Element Information CTRL+SHIFT+INSERT+F1 Activate Mouse Over INSERT+CTRL+ENTER Desktop Keystrokes For Reading Text Say Character NUM PAD 5 Say Character Phonetically NUM PAD 5 twice quickly Say Prior Character LEFT ARROW Say Next Character RIGHT ARROW Say Word INSERT+NUM PAD 5 Spell Word INSERT+NUM PAD 5 twice quickly Say Prior Word INSERT+LEFT ARROW Say Next Word INSERT+RIGHT ARROW Say Line INSERT+UP ARROW Spell Line INSERT+UP ARROW twice quickly Say Prior Line UP ARROW Say Next Line DOWN ARROW Say Sentence ALT+NUM PAD 5 Say Prior Sentence ALT+UP ARROW Say Next Sentence ALT+DOWN ARROW Say Paragraph CTRL+NUM PAD 5 Say Prior Paragraph CTRL+UP ARROW Say Next Paragraph CTRL+DOWN ARROW Say to Cursor INSERT+HOME Say from Cursor INSERT+PAGE UP Say All INSERT+DOWN ARROW Rewind During Say All LEFT ARROW Fast Forward During Say All RIGHT ARROW Say Color INSERT+5 on the numbers row Increase Voice Rate During Say All PAGE UP Decrease Voice Rate During Say All PAGE DOWN Increase Voice Rate When Not in Say All ALT+CTRL+PAGE UP Decrease Voice Rate When Not in Say All ALT+CTRL+PAGE DOWN Screen Refresh INSERT+ESC Start Skim Reading CTRL+INSERT+DOWN ARROW Change Skim Reading Preferences CTRL+SHIFT+INSERT+DOWN ARROW Display Skim Reading Summary INSERT+WINDOWS KEY+DOWN ARROW Toggle Speech On and Off INSERT+SPACEBAR, followed by S Informational Interrupt Speech CTRL Say Font INSERT+F Say Window Title INSERT+T Say Window Prompt and Text INSERT+TAB JAWS Find CTRL+INSERT+F JAWS Find Next INSERT+F3 JAWS Find Previous INSERT+SHIFT+F3 Say Top Line of Window INSERT+END Say Bottom Line of Window INSERT+PAGE DOWN Say Selected Text INSERT+SHIFT+ DOWN ARROW Get Application Version CTRL+INSERT+V For Cursors and Mouse PC Cursor NUM PAD PLUS JAWS Cursor NUM PAD MINUS Route PC Cursor to JAWS Cursor INSERT+NUM PAD PLUS Route JAWS Cursor to PC Cursor INSERT+NUM PAD MINUS Left Mouse Button NUM PAD SLASH Right Mouse Button NUM PAD STAR Drag and Drop CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH Restrict JAWS Cursor INSERT+R For Dialog Boxes Say Default Button of Dialog Box INSERT+E Read Window from Top to Bottom INSERT+B Read Word in Context INSERT+C Say Current Control Hot Key SHIFT+NUM PAD 5 Open Combo Box ALT+DOWN ARROW Close Combo Box ALT+UP ARROW Announce Progress Bar Status INSERT+TAB For Help Context Sensitive Help INSERT+F1 Keyboard Help INSERT+1 JAWS Help for Applications INSERT+F1 twice quickly Hot Key Help INSERT+H Windows Key Help INSERT+W Miscellaneous JAWS Window INSERT+J Refresh Screen INSERT+ESC Adjust JAWS Options INSERT+V Run JAWS Manager INSERT+F2 Shut Down JAWS INSERT+F4 Window List Dialog INSERT+F10 Select a System Tray Icon Dialog INSERT+F11 Say System Time INSERT+F12 Graphics Labeler INSERT+G Auto Graphics Labeler CTRL+INSERT+G Pass Key Through INSERT+3 on the numbers row Virtualize Window ALT+INSERT+W Virtualize Current Control ALT+SHIFT+INSERT+W Select Scheme ALT+INSERT+S Select Language CTRL+WINDOWS KEY+L Select Synthesizer CTRL+INSERT+S Read Columns 1 through 10 of a List View CTRL+INSERT+n, where n is a value from 1, 2, 3 through 0 Copy Selected Text to FSClipboard WINDOWS KEY+C For Frames Frame Get Top Left CTRL+SHIFT+LEFT BRACKET Frame Get Bottom Right CTRL+SHIFT+RIGHT BRACKET Frame Set to Window CTRL+SHIFT+LEFT BRACKET twice quickly For JAWS Tandem Ends JAWS Tandem Session INSERT+ALT+T Toggle Between Target and Controller Desktop (Controller User only) INSERT+ALT+TAB Toggle Video On or Off on Controller (Controller User only) INSERT+CTRL+SHIFT+V For Research It Open Research It INSERT+SPACEBAR, followed by R Launch Research It Using the Primary Lookup Source INSERT+WINDOWS Key+R Laptop Keystrokes For Reading Text Say Character CAPS LOCK+COMMA Say Character Phonetically CAPS LOCK+COMMA twice quickly Say Prior Character CAPS LOCK+M Say Next Character CAPS LOCK+PERIOD Say Word CAPS LOCK+K Spell Word CAPS LOCK+K twice quickly Say Prior Word CAPS LOCK+J Say Next Word CAPS LOCK+L Say Line CAPS LOCK+I Spell Line CAPS LOCK+I twice quickly Say Prior Line CAPS LOCK+U Say Next Line CAPS LOCK+O Say Sentence CAPS LOCK+H Say Prior Sentence CAPS LOCK+Y Say Next Sentence CAPS LOCK+N Say Paragraph CAPS LOCK+CTRL+I Say Prior Paragraph CAPS LOCK+CTRL+U Say Next Paragraph CAPS LOCK+CTRL+O Say to Cursor CAPS LOCK+SHIFT+J Say from Cursor CAPS LOCK+SHIFT+L Say All CAPS LOCK+A Rewind During a Say All LEFT ARROW Fast Forward During a Say All RIGHT ARROW Say Color CAPS LOCK+5 Increase Voice Rate During Say All PAGE UP Decrease Voice Rate During Say All PAGE DOWN Increase Voice Rate When Not in Say All ALT+CTRL+PAGE UP Decrease Voice Rate When Not in Say All ALT+CTRL+PAGE DOWN Screen Refresh CAPS LOCK+ESC Start Skim Reading CAPS LOCK+CTRL+DOWN ARROW Change Skim Reading Preferences CAPS LOCK+CTRL+SHIFT+ DOWN ARROW Display Skim Reading Summary CAPS LOCK+WINDOWS KEY+DOWN ARROW Toggle Speech On and Off CAPS LOCK+SPACEBAR, followed by S Informational Interrupt Speech CTRL Say Font CAPS LOCK+F Say Window Title CAPS LOCK+T Say Window Prompt and Text CAPS LOCK+TAB JAWS Find CAPS LOCK+ CTRL+F JAWS Find Next CAPS LOCK+F3 JAWS Find Previous CAPS LOCK+SHIFT+F3 Say Top Line of Window CAPS LOCK+SHIFT+Y Say Bottom Line of Window CAPS LOCK+SHIFT+N Say Selected Text CAPS LOCK+SHIFT+A Get Application Version CAPS LOCK+CTRL+V For Cursors and Mouse PC Cursor CAPS LOCK+SEMICOLON JAWS Cursor CAPS LOCK+P Route PC Cursor to JAWS Cursor CAPS LOCK+APOSTROPHE Route JAWS Cursor to PC Cursor CAPS LOCK+LEFT BRACKET Left Mouse Button CAPS LOCK+8 Right Mouse Button CAPS LOCK+9 Left Mouse Button Lock CTRL+WINDOWS KEY+8 Right Mouse Button Lock CTRL+WINDOWS KEY+9 Drag and Drop CAPS LOCK+CTRL+8 Restrict JAWS Cursor CAPS LOCK+R For Dialog Boxes Say Default Button of Dialog CAPS LOCK+E Read Window in Tab Order CAPS LOCK+B Read Word in Context CAPS LOCK+C Say Current Control Hot Key CAPS LOCK+SHIFT+COMMA Open Combo Box ALT+DOWN ARROW Close Combo Box ALT+UP ARROW Announce Progress Bar Status CAPS LOCK+TAB For Help Context Sensitive Help CAPS LOCK+F1 Keyboard Help CAPS LOCK+1 JAWS Help for Applications CAPS LOCK+F1 twice quickly Hot Key Help INSERT+H Windows Key Help CAPS LOCK+W Miscellaneous JAWS Window INSERT+J Refresh Screen CAPS LOCK+ESC Adjust JAWS Options CAPS LOCK+V Run JAWS Manager CAPS LOCK+F2 Shut Down JAWS CAPS LOCK+F4 Window List Dialog CAPS LOCK+F10 Select a System Tray Icon Dialog CAPS LOCK+F11 Say System Time CAPS LOCK+F12 Graphics Labeler CAPS LOCK+G Auto Graphics Labeler CAPS LOCK+CTRL+G Pass Key Through CAPS LOCK+3 Read Columns 1 through 10 of a List View CTRL+INSERT+n, where n is a value from 1, 2, 3, through 0 Copy Selected Text to FSClipboard WINDOWS KEY+C For Frames Frame Get Top Left CTRL+SHIFT+LEFT BRACKET Frame Get Bottom Right CTRL+SHIFT+RIGHT BRACKET Frame Set to Window CTRL+SHIFT+LEFT BRACKET twice quickly For JAWS Tandem Ends JAWS Tandem Session INSERT+ALT+T Toggle Between Target and Controller Desktop (Controller User only) INSERT+ALT+TAB Toggle Video On or Off on Controller (Controller User only) INSERT+CTRL+SHIFT+V For Research It Open Research It CAPS LOCK+SPACEBAR, followed by R Launch Research It Using the Primary Lookup Source CAPS LOCK+WINDOWS Key+R Windows Keystrokes General Get Help F1 Open the Start menu CTRL+ESC Open Windows Explorer WINDOWS KEY+E Open Run Dialog WINDOWS KEY+R Find File or Folder from Desktop F3 Minimize All Applications WINDOWS KEY+M Switch Between Open Applications ALT+TAB Quit the Active Application ALT+F4 For Windows and Menus Open the Application Control Menu ALT+SPACEBAR Move to Current Application?s Menu Bar ALT Choose a Menu Item ENTER Move Between Menus ALT, ARROW KEYS Cancel or Close a Menu ESC Cancel or Close a Cascading Menu ALT Open 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Peter Holdstock <ptrholdstock@...> #4215 There's a good idea John. WLM is used by many but has it's very silly querks and it would be great if we could get an email client working perfectly well with JAWS. I reckon it would only take you a day or so to fix everything as much of it is stupid stuff like graphics not been labelled so the user has to do it themselves so it will then identify unread messages, collapsed conversations etc and the calendar function isn't ideal. Could be a quick bit of work and create many happy JAWS users. That said I know I and many others have repeatedly reported these issues to FS including during the JAWS 13 beta so hopefully they'll get off their backsides and fix them. Peter toggle quoted messageShow quoted text -----Original Message----- From: Brandon Keith Biggs Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 9:54 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application Hello, Does anyone know if there are scripts for the new WLM? I'm running Windows Vista and Jaws 11 and I just installed WLM. It seems as if it is utilizing ribbons instead of a menu bar, so I'm stuck with a not-so-good way of changing my settings. Also the spell check is horrible because it just tells the word that it wants to change to, not the misspelled word. I don't think this problem was on the old Windows Live Mail but I don't know how to get an earlier version of WLM. Thanks, Brandon Keith Biggs -----Original Message----- From: Peter Holdstock Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 1:21 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application I think all of us agree that John should get some recompense for his work and I think many offered to pay something for the fnatastic Itunes scripts. Perhaps having a paypal link on his site would be a good idea for voluntary contributions although if he came up with realistic prices I'd be happy to consider whether I need the product or not. Peter -----Original Message----- From: Marquette, Ed Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 8:29 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: RE: JAWS Scripting for a new application At the risk of starting a conflagration of controversy, I would like to support the notion that John should get some remuneration for his hard work -- even if he charged for scripts. I know I would pay significantly for a set of scripts that made Google Docs accessable, though I think that is not feasible. The biggest single area of inaccessibility I encounter on my job is with respect to on-line collaboration. I have clients who regularly send invitations to go-to-meeting sessions where a document will be on the screen, albeit from the client's computer. We will be on the phone together, and sometimes the client will make edits he wants me to review, and sometimes he will say simply, "Here, I'll give you control. Why don't you revise this section on indemnification?" I accomplish this only with the assistance of my sighted secretary. Without her presence, I would be sunk. Serotek has something called Accessable Event, but that really doesn't cut it. Again, this may be an application of limited applicability, but I run into it all the time, and document collaboration is becoming more and more popular. I hear ads for Go-To-Meeting almost every time I tune into XM Radio, and note the popularity of Google Docs, not just because it is cheap, but also because it offers collaboration. This may simply be impossible and not everyone needs it, but if you need it, you need it bad. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Chris Smart Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 2:11 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application Ok, so with most of the Office applications scripted for, not to mention iTunes, and the various parts of Windows, what else would the masses of unemployed blind folks with limitted incomes like access to? With the basics that most people want to use daily covered, we're probably going to move into more specialized applications that not as many people require. If said application is something that some of us who work or are trying to find work need access to, maybe we should donate a little cash to John for his hard work and probably hundreds of hours spent scripting. Just a thought. 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Dave Scrimenti <dscrimenti@...> #4212 Perhaps I'm overestimating the difficulty, but I certainly wouldn't want to do scripting without knowing programming. If you want to know what it's like, hit jaws key plus zero in a scripted application to read the scripts. toggle quoted messageShow quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Smart" <csmart8@cogeco.ca> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 9:39 AM Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application Go into Start Menu, Jaws, Explore Jaws, and press ENTER on Explore the Manuals. That will open a folder. Press ENTER on. No you don't need a programming background to get started. Chris At 02:51 AM 10/24/2011, you wrote: Hello, From where we can get these scripts? Can anyone work on, with the scripts to make an application accessible? How can I learnthis, so that I can do scripting? Does scripting require any programming background? Thank you in advance. ----- Original Message ----- From: "kaveinthran" <kavein2211@gmail.com> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 9:55 AM Subject: Re: JAWS Scripting for a new application hi sir, You can try adobe audition or CCleaner or, even audacity On 10/24/2011 2:21 AM, John Martyn wrote: Hi all, While I wrap up some last minute scripting projects, I am looking for a new application to script. I won't be doing any financial applications or office applications this time, but any other suggestions are welcome. I've gotten rather quick at doing this so challenges are also welcome. 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In your browser, press and hold INSERT and press F1 twice quickly. Once JAWS help is open, press F6 to move to the help topic window. General Go Back a Page ALT+LEFT ARROW or BACKSPACE Go Forward a Page ALT+RIGHT ARROW Go to Home Page ALT+HOME Read Address Bar INSERT+A Next Link TAB Prior Link SHIFT+TAB Open Link ENTER List Frames INSERT+F9 List Links INSERT+F7 List Headings INSERT+F6 Heading at Level 1 through 6 Personalized Web Settings SHIFT+INSERT+V Virtual HTML Features INSERT+F3 Activate Mouse Over CTRL+INSERT+ENTER Move to Next Clickable Element SLASH Move to Previous Clickable Element SHIFT+SLASH Select Clickable Element INSERT+CTRL+SLASH Select a Mouse Over Element INSERT+WINDOWS KEY+SEMICOLON JAWS Find Next and Previous F3 and SHIFT+F3 (Internet Explorer only) Assign Custom Label CTRL+INSERT+TAB Move to Next Landmark SEMICOLON Move to Previous Landmark SHIFT+SEMICOLON Select a Landmark INSERT+CTRL+SEMICOLON ARIA Drag-and-Drop WINDOWS Key+CTRL+EQUALS ARIA Live Region Text Filter WINDOWS Key+CTRL+DASH Tabbed Browsing Quick Keys Open a New Tab CTRL+T Open a New Tab from the Address Bar ALT+ENTER (on address bar) Open a New Tab from the Toolbar Search Box ALT+ENTER (on address bar) View List of Open Tabs CTRL+SHIFT+Q Toggle Quick Tabs (Thumbnail View) CTRL+Q Switch to the Next Tab CTRL+TAB Switch to the Previous Tab CTRL+SHIFT+TAB Switch to a Specific Tab Number CTRL+n, where n is a digit from 1 through 8 Switch to Last Tab CTRL+9 Close Current Tab CTRL+W or CTRL+F4 Close All Tabs ALT+F4 Close Other Tabs CTRL+ALT+F4 Open Links in a New Tab in the Background CTRL+ENTER Open Links in a New Tab in the Foreground CTRL+SHIFT+ENTER Opens and places focus on the Feeds tree view CTRL+J Subscribe to Feeds or Web Slices ALT+J (Internet Explorer 8 or later for Web Slices) Navigation Quick Keys Tip: If you hold down SHIFT before pressing one of the following Navigation Quick Keys, you can move to the previous instance of that element, for example, press A to move to the next anchor, press SHIFT+A to move to the previous anchor. In addition, if you hold down CTRL+INSERT while pressing keystrokes with an asterisk () next to them, JAWS displays a list of those elements on the page. Next Anchor A Next Button B* Next Combo Box C* Next Different Element D Next Edit Box E* Next Form Control F Next Graphic G* Next Heading H Next Item in a List I Jump to Line J* Next PlaceMarker K* Next List L* Next Frame M Skip Past Links N Next Object Tag O Next Paragraph P* Next Quote Q* Next Radio Button R* Next Same Element S Next Table T* Next Unvisited Link U Next Visited Link V Next Check Box X* Next Division Z* Next Element SHIFT+PERIOD Previous Element SHIFT+COMMA Forms Enter Forms Mode ENTER Exit Forms Mode NUM PAD PLUS List Form Fields INSERT+F5 First Form Field INSERT+CTRL+HOME Next Form Field F Prior Form Field SHIFT+F Last Form Field INSERT+CTRL+END Next Button B Prior Button SHIFT+B List Buttons CTRL+INSERT+B Next Combo Box C Prior Combo Box SHIFT+C List Combo Boxes CTRL+INSERT+C Next Edit Box E Prior Edit Box SHIFT+E List Edit Boxes CTRL+INSERT+E Next Radio Button R Prior Radio Button SHIFT+R List Radio Buttons CTRL+INSERT+R Next Check Box X Prior Check Box SHIFT+X List Check Boxes CTRL+INSERT+X Tables Next Table T Prior Table SHIFT+T Select Table F8 Next Row WINDOWS KEY+ALT+DOWN ARROW Prior Row WINDOWS KEY+ALT+UP ARROW Read Row WINDOWS KEY+COMMA or WINDOWS KEY+NUM PAD 5 Next Column WINDOWS KEY+ALT+RIGHT ARROW Prior Column WINDOWS KEY+ALT+LEFT ARROW Read Column WINDOWS KEY+PERIOD Next Cell in Row ALT+CTRL+RIGHT ARROW Prior Cell in Row ALT+CTRL+LEFT ARROW Cell Below in Column ALT+CTRL+DOWN ARROW Cell Above in Column ALT+CTRL+UP ARROW Jump to Table Cell CTRL+WINDOWS KEY+J Return to Previous Cell CTRL+WINDOWS KEY+SHIFT+J PlaceMarkers Set Temporary PlaceMarker (Permanent Marker for Word) CTRL+WINDOWS Key+K Add, Delete, Edit, or Rename Permanent PlaceMarkers CTRL+SHIFT+K Move to the Next or Prior PlaceMarker K or SHIFT+K Read Text at PlaceMarkers 1 through 4 Number Row Keys 7 through 0 Move to PlaceMarker 1 through 4 SHIFT+ number row keys 7 through 0 Return to PlaceMarker in Word WINDOWS Key+K Select Text from PlaceMarker to Cursor Position in Word INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by M Frames Next Frame M Prior Frame SHIFT+M List Frames INSERT+F9 Elements Next Same Element S Prior Same Element SHIFT+S Next Different Element D Prior Different Element SHIFT+D Next Element SHIFT+PERIOD Prior Element SHIFT+COMMA Select Entire Element F8 Display Entire Element SHIFT+INSERT+F1 Display Detailed Element Information CTRL+SHIFT+INSERT+F1 Activate Mouse Over INSERT+CTRL+ENTER Desktop Keystrokes For Reading Text Say Character NUM PAD 5 Say Character Phonetically NUM PAD 5 twice quickly Say Prior Character LEFT ARROW Say Next Character RIGHT ARROW Say Word INSERT+NUM PAD 5 Spell Word INSERT+NUM PAD 5 twice quickly Say Prior Word INSERT+LEFT ARROW Say Next Word INSERT+RIGHT ARROW Say Line INSERT+UP ARROW Spell Line INSERT+UP ARROW twice quickly Say Prior Line UP ARROW Say Next Line DOWN ARROW Say Sentence ALT+NUM PAD 5 Say Prior Sentence ALT+UP ARROW Say Next Sentence ALT+DOWN ARROW Say Paragraph CTRL+NUM PAD 5 Say Prior Paragraph CTRL+UP ARROW Say Next Paragraph CTRL+DOWN ARROW Say to Cursor INSERT+HOME Say from Cursor INSERT+PAGE UP Say All INSERT+DOWN ARROW Rewind During Say All LEFT ARROW Fast Forward During Say All RIGHT ARROW Say Color INSERT+5 on the numbers row Increase Voice Rate During Say All PAGE UP Decrease Voice Rate During Say All PAGE DOWN Increase Voice Rate When Not in Say All ALT+CTRL+PAGE UP Decrease Voice Rate When Not in Say All ALT+CTRL+PAGE DOWN Screen Refresh INSERT+ESC Start Skim Reading CTRL+INSERT+DOWN ARROW Change Skim Reading Preferences CTRL+SHIFT+INSERT+DOWN ARROW Display Skim Reading Summary INSERT+WINDOWS KEY+DOWN ARROW Toggle Speech On and Off INSERT+SPACEBAR, followed by S Informational Interrupt Speech CTRL Say Font INSERT+F Say Window Title INSERT+T Say Window Prompt and Text INSERT+TAB JAWS Find CTRL+INSERT+F JAWS Find Next INSERT+F3 JAWS Find Previous INSERT+SHIFT+F3 Say Top Line of Window INSERT+END Say Bottom Line of Window INSERT+PAGE DOWN Say Selected Text INSERT+SHIFT+ DOWN ARROW Get Application Version CTRL+INSERT+V For Cursors and Mouse PC Cursor NUM PAD PLUS JAWS Cursor NUM PAD MINUS Route PC Cursor to JAWS Cursor INSERT+NUM PAD PLUS Route JAWS Cursor to PC Cursor INSERT+NUM PAD MINUS Left Mouse Button NUM PAD SLASH Right Mouse Button NUM PAD STAR Drag and Drop CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH Restrict JAWS Cursor INSERT+R For Dialog Boxes Say Default Button of Dialog Box INSERT+E Read Window from Top to Bottom INSERT+B Read Word in Context INSERT+C Say Current Control Hot Key SHIFT+NUM PAD 5 Open Combo Box ALT+DOWN ARROW Close Combo Box ALT+UP ARROW Announce Progress Bar Status INSERT+TAB For Help Context Sensitive Help INSERT+F1 Keyboard Help INSERT+1 JAWS Help for Applications INSERT+F1 twice quickly Hot Key Help INSERT+H Windows Key Help INSERT+W Miscellaneous JAWS Window INSERT+J Refresh Screen INSERT+ESC Adjust JAWS Options INSERT+V Run JAWS Manager INSERT+F2 Shut Down JAWS INSERT+F4 Window List Dialog INSERT+F10 Select a System Tray Icon Dialog INSERT+F11 Say System Time INSERT+F12 Graphics Labeler INSERT+G Auto Graphics Labeler CTRL+INSERT+G Pass Key Through INSERT+3 on the numbers row Virtualize Window ALT+INSERT+W Virtualize Current Control ALT+SHIFT+INSERT+W Select Scheme ALT+INSERT+S Select Language CTRL+WINDOWS KEY+L Select Synthesizer CTRL+INSERT+S Read Columns 1 through 10 of a List View CTRL+INSERT+n, where n is a value from 1, 2, 3 through 0 Copy Selected Text to FSClipboard WINDOWS KEY+C For Frames Frame Get Top Left CTRL+SHIFT+LEFT BRACKET Frame Get Bottom Right CTRL+SHIFT+RIGHT BRACKET Frame Set to Window CTRL+SHIFT+LEFT BRACKET twice quickly For JAWS Tandem Ends JAWS Tandem Session INSERT+ALT+T Toggle Between Target and Controller Desktop (Controller User only) INSERT+ALT+TAB Toggle Video On or Off on Controller (Controller User only) INSERT+CTRL+SHIFT+V For Research It Open Research It INSERT+SPACEBAR, followed by R Launch Research It Using the Primary Lookup Source INSERT+WINDOWS Key+R Laptop Keystrokes For Reading Text Say Character CAPS LOCK+COMMA Say Character Phonetically CAPS LOCK+COMMA twice quickly Say Prior Character CAPS LOCK+M Say Next Character CAPS LOCK+PERIOD Say Word CAPS LOCK+K Spell Word CAPS LOCK+K twice quickly Say Prior Word CAPS LOCK+J Say Next Word CAPS LOCK+L Say Line CAPS LOCK+I Spell Line CAPS LOCK+I twice quickly Say Prior Line CAPS LOCK+U Say Next Line CAPS LOCK+O Say Sentence CAPS LOCK+H Say Prior Sentence CAPS LOCK+Y Say Next Sentence CAPS LOCK+N Say Paragraph CAPS LOCK+CTRL+I Say Prior Paragraph CAPS LOCK+CTRL+U Say Next Paragraph CAPS LOCK+CTRL+O Say to Cursor CAPS LOCK+SHIFT+J Say from Cursor CAPS LOCK+SHIFT+L Say All CAPS LOCK+A Rewind During a Say All LEFT ARROW Fast Forward During a Say All RIGHT ARROW Say Color CAPS LOCK+5 Increase Voice Rate During Say All PAGE UP Decrease Voice Rate During Say All PAGE DOWN Increase Voice Rate When Not in Say All ALT+CTRL+PAGE UP Decrease Voice Rate When Not in Say All ALT+CTRL+PAGE DOWN Screen Refresh CAPS LOCK+ESC Start Skim Reading CAPS LOCK+CTRL+DOWN ARROW Change Skim Reading Preferences CAPS LOCK+CTRL+SHIFT+ DOWN ARROW Display Skim Reading Summary CAPS LOCK+WINDOWS KEY+DOWN ARROW Toggle Speech On and Off CAPS LOCK+SPACEBAR, followed by S Informational Interrupt Speech CTRL Say Font CAPS LOCK+F Say Window Title CAPS LOCK+T Say Window Prompt and Text CAPS LOCK+TAB JAWS Find CAPS LOCK+ CTRL+F JAWS Find Next CAPS LOCK+F3 JAWS Find Previous CAPS LOCK+SHIFT+F3 Say Top Line of Window CAPS LOCK+SHIFT+Y Say Bottom Line of Window CAPS LOCK+SHIFT+N Say Selected Text CAPS LOCK+SHIFT+A Get Application Version CAPS LOCK+CTRL+V For Cursors and Mouse PC Cursor CAPS LOCK+SEMICOLON JAWS Cursor CAPS LOCK+P Route PC Cursor to JAWS Cursor CAPS LOCK+APOSTROPHE Route JAWS Cursor to PC Cursor CAPS LOCK+LEFT BRACKET Left Mouse Button CAPS LOCK+8 Right Mouse Button CAPS LOCK+9 Left Mouse Button Lock CTRL+WINDOWS KEY+8 Right Mouse Button Lock CTRL+WINDOWS KEY+9 Drag and Drop CAPS LOCK+CTRL+8 Restrict JAWS Cursor CAPS LOCK+R For Dialog Boxes Say Default Button of Dialog CAPS LOCK+E Read Window in Tab Order CAPS LOCK+B Read Word in Context CAPS LOCK+C Say Current Control Hot Key CAPS LOCK+SHIFT+COMMA Open Combo Box ALT+DOWN ARROW Close Combo Box ALT+UP ARROW Announce Progress Bar Status CAPS LOCK+TAB For Help Context Sensitive Help CAPS LOCK+F1 Keyboard Help CAPS LOCK+1 JAWS Help for Applications CAPS LOCK+F1 twice quickly Hot Key Help INSERT+H Windows Key Help CAPS LOCK+W Miscellaneous JAWS Window INSERT+J Refresh Screen CAPS LOCK+ESC Adjust JAWS Options CAPS LOCK+V Run JAWS Manager CAPS LOCK+F2 Shut Down JAWS CAPS LOCK+F4 Window List Dialog CAPS LOCK+F10 Select a System Tray Icon Dialog CAPS LOCK+F11 Say System Time CAPS LOCK+F12 Graphics Labeler CAPS LOCK+G Auto Graphics Labeler CAPS LOCK+CTRL+G Pass Key Through CAPS LOCK+3 Read Columns 1 through 10 of a List View CTRL+INSERT+n, where n is a value from 1, 2, 3, through 0 Copy Selected Text to FSClipboard WINDOWS KEY+C For Frames Frame Get Top Left CTRL+SHIFT+LEFT BRACKET Frame Get Bottom Right CTRL+SHIFT+RIGHT BRACKET Frame Set to Window CTRL+SHIFT+LEFT BRACKET twice quickly For JAWS Tandem Ends JAWS Tandem Session INSERT+ALT+T Toggle Between Target and Controller Desktop (Controller User only) INSERT+ALT+TAB Toggle Video On or Off on Controller (Controller User only) INSERT+CTRL+SHIFT+V For Research It Open Research It CAPS LOCK+SPACEBAR, followed by R Launch Research It Using the Primary Lookup Source CAPS LOCK+WINDOWS Key+R Windows Keystrokes General Get Help F1 Open the Start menu CTRL+ESC Open Windows Explorer WINDOWS KEY+E Open Run Dialog WINDOWS KEY+R Find File or Folder from Desktop F3 Minimize All Applications WINDOWS KEY+M Switch Between Open Applications ALT+TAB Quit the Active Application ALT+F4 For Windows and Menus Open the Application Control Menu ALT+SPACEBAR Move to Current Application?s Menu Bar ALT Choose a Menu Item ENTER Move Between Menus ALT, ARROW KEYS Cancel or Close a Menu ESC Cancel or Close a Cascading Menu ALT Open a Child Window Control Menu ALT+DASH Close a Child Window CTRL+F4 Open the Context Menu APPLICATIONS KEY or SHIFT+F10 For Dialog Boxes Move Through Dialog Controls TAB Move Backward Through Dialog Controls SHIFT+TAB Move to Another Page CTRL+TAB Reverse Direction Through Pages CTRL+SHIFT+TAB Select or Deselect in List View SPACEBAR or CTRL+SPACEBAR Toggle a Check Box On/Off SPACEBAR For Reading Text Move One Character Left LEFT ARROW Move One Character Right RIGHT ARROW Move One Word Left CTRL+LEFT ARROW Move One Word Right CTRL+RIGHT ARROW Move to Beginning of Line HOME Move to End of Line END Move One Paragraph Up CTRL+UP ARROW Move One Paragraph Down CTRL+DOWN ARROW Scroll Up One Screen PAGE UP Scroll Down One Screen PAGE DOWN Move to Beginning CTRL+HOME Move to End CTRL+END For Editing Text Copy CTRL+C Cut CTRL+X Paste CTRL+V Read Clipboard Contents (Desktop or Laptop Layout) WINDOWS KEY+INSERT+X or WINDOWS KEY+CAPS LOCK+X Undo CTRL+Z Delete Current Character DELETE Delete Prior 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