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John Martyn
Hi all,
I will be among the beta testers out there. Is anyone else going to try out the beta that comes out next week? I have to since I write scripts. Does anyone have a list of changes they are making with JAWS 13? Thanks in advanced, John Martyn -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20110908/ed5b7576/attachment.html>
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Holger Fiallo <holgerfiallo@...>
I am. Could I use the scripts with 13?
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From: John Martyn Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:02 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list Subject: Jaws 13 out next week Hi all, I will be among the beta testers out there. Is anyone else going to try out the beta that comes out next week? I have to since I write scripts. Does anyone have a list of changes they are making with JAWS 13? Thanks in advanced, John Martyn -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20110908/ed5b7576/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com Holger Fiallo Kind Regard
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John Martyn
That's what we're about to find out actually. I am hoping there is no change to the scripts though. I'll especially need this beta to start working on my next project which I am not announcing yet.
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John
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From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:19 PM Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week I am. Could I use the scripts with 13?
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Alex Stone <alex.stone@...>
John, you can hope, but knowing fs, they'll have changed them just to piss
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you off. Cheers Alex
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of John Martyn Sent: 08 September 2011 23:24 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week That's what we're about to find out actually. I am hoping there is no change to the scripts though. I'll especially need this beta to start working on my next project which I am not announcing yet. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:19 PM Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week I am. Could I use the scripts with 13?<http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201109 08/ed5b7576/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Holger Fiallo <holgerfiallo@...>
why do not wait before making any comments.
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From: Alex Stone Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:28 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week John, you can hope, but knowing fs, they'll have changed them just to piss you off. Cheers Alex -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of John Martyn Sent: 08 September 2011 23:24 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week That's what we're about to find out actually. I am hoping there is no change to the scripts though. I'll especially need this beta to start working on my next project which I am not announcing yet. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:19 PM Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week I am. Could I use the scripts with 13?<http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201109 08/ed5b7576/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com Holger Fiallo Kind Regard
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Dave...
Holgar,
Because FS has a track record of breaking things that used to work, with each revision. Of course in addition to adding new features. But we can all hope. Dave Carlson From my Dell Latitude 630.----- Original Message ----- From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 15:43 Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week why do not wait before making any comments. -----Original Message----- From: Alex Stone Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:28 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week John, you can hope, but knowing fs, they'll have changed them just to piss you off. Cheers Alex -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of John Martyn Sent: 08 September 2011 23:24 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week That's what we're about to find out actually. I am hoping there is no change to the scripts though. I'll especially need this beta to start working on my next project which I am not announcing yet. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:19 PM Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week I am. Could I use the scripts with 13?<http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201109 08/ed5b7576/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com Holger Fiallo Kind Regard _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Holger Fiallo <holgerfiallo@...>
I got that. I had been using jaws since it came out. I suggest for those who love complaining to be beta testers to help. Also if someone does not like the product purchase another program.
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From: Farfar on Laptop Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:49 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week Holgar, Because FS has a track record of breaking things that used to work, with each revision. Of course in addition to adding new features. But we can all hope. Dave Carlson From my Dell Latitude 630.----- Original Message ----- From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 15:43 Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week why do not wait before making any comments. -----Original Message----- From: Alex Stone Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:28 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week John, you can hope, but knowing fs, they'll have changed them just to piss you off. Cheers Alex -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of John Martyn Sent: 08 September 2011 23:24 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week That's what we're about to find out actually. I am hoping there is no change to the scripts though. I'll especially need this beta to start working on my next project which I am not announcing yet. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:19 PM Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week I am. Could I use the scripts with 13?<http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201109 08/ed5b7576/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com Holger Fiallo Kind Regard _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com Holger Fiallo Kind Regard
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Alex Stone <alex.stone@...>
Holger, I hate to say this, but I thought you were the person that brought
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it up. Why shouldn't people make comments? Cheers Alex
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo Sent: 08 September 2011 23:44 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week why do not wait before making any comments. -----Original Message----- From: Alex Stone Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:28 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week John, you can hope, but knowing fs, they'll have changed them just to piss you off. Cheers Alex -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of John Martyn Sent: 08 September 2011 23:24 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week That's what we're about to find out actually. I am hoping there is no change to the scripts though. I'll especially need this beta to start working on my next project which I am not announcing yet. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:19 PM Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week I am. Could I use the scripts with 13?<http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201109 08/ed5b7576/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com Holger Fiallo Kind Regard _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Alex Stone <alex.stone@...>
Holger, I've been using JAWS since 3.30, how do I become a beta tester?
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Cheers Alex
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo Sent: 08 September 2011 23:58 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week I got that. I had been using jaws since it came out. I suggest for those who love complaining to be beta testers to help. Also if someone does not like the product purchase another program. -----Original Message----- From: Farfar on Laptop Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:49 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week Holgar, Because FS has a track record of breaking things that used to work, with each revision. Of course in addition to adding new features. But we can all hope. Dave Carlson From my Dell Latitude 630.----- Original Message ----- From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 15:43 Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week why do not wait before making any comments. -----Original Message----- From: Alex Stone Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:28 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week John, you can hope, but knowing fs, they'll have changed them just to piss you off. Cheers Alex -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of John Martyn Sent: 08 September 2011 23:24 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week That's what we're about to find out actually. I am hoping there is no change to the scripts though. I'll especially need this beta to start working on my next project which I am not announcing yet. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:19 PM Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week I am. Could I use the scripts with 13?<http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201109 08/ed5b7576/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com Holger Fiallo Kind Regard _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com Holger Fiallo Kind Regard _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Holger Fiallo <holgerfiallo@...>
when it comes out next week, just download it. play with it and report problems. The more people do so it will be better.
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From: Alex Stone Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 6:04 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week Holger, I've been using JAWS since 3.30, how do I become a beta tester? Cheers Alex -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo Sent: 08 September 2011 23:58 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week I got that. I had been using jaws since it came out. I suggest for those who love complaining to be beta testers to help. Also if someone does not like the product purchase another program. -----Original Message----- From: Farfar on Laptop Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:49 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week Holgar, Because FS has a track record of breaking things that used to work, with each revision. Of course in addition to adding new features. But we can all hope. Dave Carlson From my Dell Latitude 630.----- Original Message ----- From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 15:43 Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week why do not wait before making any comments. -----Original Message----- From: Alex Stone Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:28 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week John, you can hope, but knowing fs, they'll have changed them just to piss you off. Cheers Alex -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of John Martyn Sent: 08 September 2011 23:24 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week That's what we're about to find out actually. I am hoping there is no change to the scripts though. I'll especially need this beta to start working on my next project which I am not announcing yet. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:19 PM Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week I am. Could I use the scripts with 13?<http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201109 08/ed5b7576/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com Holger Fiallo Kind Regard _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com Holger Fiallo Kind Regard _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com Holger Fiallo Kind Regard
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don wardlow <wardlows97@...>
Will it be free to download and play with?
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I thought 13 would be one we had to pay for. I think beta-testing is a good idea. If my wife had let me beta-test her, I'd still be single! lol Don
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 7:08 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week when it comes out next week, just download it. play with it and report problems. The more people do so it will be better. -----Original Message----- From: Alex Stone Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 6:04 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week Holger, I've been using JAWS since 3.30, how do I become a beta tester? Cheers Alex -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo Sent: 08 September 2011 23:58 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week I got that. I had been using jaws since it came out. I suggest for those who love complaining to be beta testers to help. Also if someone does not like the product purchase another program. -----Original Message----- From: Farfar on Laptop Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:49 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week Holgar, Because FS has a track record of breaking things that used to work, with each revision. Of course in addition to adding new features. But we can all hope. Dave Carlson From my Dell Latitude 630.----- Original Message ----- From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 15:43 Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week why do not wait before making any comments. -----Original Message----- From: Alex Stone Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:28 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week John, you can hope, but knowing fs, they'll have changed them just to piss you off. Cheers Alex -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of John Martyn Sent: 08 September 2011 23:24 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week That's what we're about to find out actually. I am hoping there is no change to the scripts though. I'll especially need this beta to start working on my next project which I am not announcing yet. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:19 PM Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week I am. Could I use the scripts with 13?<http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201109 08/ed5b7576/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com Holger Fiallo Kind Regard _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com Holger Fiallo Kind Regard _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com Holger Fiallo Kind Regard _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Dave...
Holgar,
If I were a true beta tester the product would never get released. I'm too critical of flaws. And mind your sharp tongue, young man! There is no shame in pointing out flaws in a product, even if there is no other reasonable substitute. Dave Carlson From my Dell Latitude 630.----- Original Message ----- From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 15:58 Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week I got that. I had been using jaws since it came out. I suggest for those who love complaining to be beta testers to help. Also if someone does not like the product purchase another program. -----Original Message----- From: Farfar on Laptop Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:49 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week Holgar, Because FS has a track record of breaking things that used to work, with each revision. Of course in addition to adding new features. But we can all hope. Dave Carlson From my Dell Latitude 630.----- Original Message ----- From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 15:43 Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week why do not wait before making any comments. -----Original Message----- From: Alex Stone Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:28 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week John, you can hope, but knowing fs, they'll have changed them just to piss you off. Cheers Alex -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of John Martyn Sent: 08 September 2011 23:24 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week That's what we're about to find out actually. I am hoping there is no change to the scripts though. I'll especially need this beta to start working on my next project which I am not announcing yet. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:19 PM Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week I am. Could I use the scripts with 13?<http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201109 08/ed5b7576/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com Holger Fiallo Kind Regard _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com Holger Fiallo Kind Regard _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Dave...
Holgar,
That's not a true beta test in the sense I mean. A true beta test is to have a team of internal Freedom Scientific power-users who are assigned specific features and test specific applications on a new platform, trying all sorts of combinations and permutations, then feeding the results back to the development team. This ensures that all aspects of the software, both new features and original features are tested to make sure they all play together. What FS does is actually a disservice to the customers, as it really says that they don't have the resources or patience to do all the necessary brute-force testing inside their walls. Instead they push out the product and hope that the general user population will somehow catch the bugs they could not. And in fact the testing done by the general public is not structured so not a chance that it will cover all the areas that need testing. I would expect that most of the public beta-so-called-testers are just users who want an early copy to try out and start using, and don't bother wringing out all the capabilities and combinations of applications for integrity. It's a lot like shooting craps, and hoping that you eventually cover all the possible bets in a single evening. Dave Carlson From my Dell Latitude 630.----- Original Message ----- From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 16:08 Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week when it comes out next week, just download it. play with it and report problems. The more people do so it will be better. -----Original Message----- From: Alex Stone Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 6:04 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week Holger, I've been using JAWS since 3.30, how do I become a beta tester? Cheers Alex -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo Sent: 08 September 2011 23:58 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week I got that. I had been using jaws since it came out. I suggest for those who love complaining to be beta testers to help. Also if someone does not like the product purchase another program. -----Original Message----- From: Farfar on Laptop Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:49 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week Holgar, Because FS has a track record of breaking things that used to work, with each revision. Of course in addition to adding new features. But we can all hope. Dave Carlson From my Dell Latitude 630.----- Original Message ----- From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 15:43 Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week why do not wait before making any comments. -----Original Message----- From: Alex Stone Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:28 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week John, you can hope, but knowing fs, they'll have changed them just to piss you off. Cheers Alex -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of John Martyn Sent: 08 September 2011 23:24 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week That's what we're about to find out actually. I am hoping there is no change to the scripts though. I'll especially need this beta to start working on my next project which I am not announcing yet. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:19 PM Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week I am. 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Dave...
Don,
That's funny! I actually was a beta-tester in that sense, and still got married. In any case, you can download a "beta" from FS and use it as long as the version is not released. Once it's released, the "beta" is supposed to expire and you will need to either use up an SMA or purchase. Dave Carlson From my Dell Latitude 630.----- Original Message ----- From: "don wardlow" <wardlows97@bellsouth.net> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 16:17 Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week Will it be free to download and play with? I thought 13 would be one we had to pay for. I think beta-testing is a good idea. If my wife had let me beta-test her, I'd still be single! lol Don -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 7:08 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week when it comes out next week, just download it. play with it and report problems. The more people do so it will be better. -----Original Message----- From: Alex Stone Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 6:04 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week Holger, I've been using JAWS since 3.30, how do I become a beta tester? Cheers Alex -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo Sent: 08 September 2011 23:58 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week I got that. I had been using jaws since it came out. I suggest for those who love complaining to be beta testers to help. Also if someone does not like the product purchase another program. -----Original Message----- From: Farfar on Laptop Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:49 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week Holgar, Because FS has a track record of breaking things that used to work, with each revision. Of course in addition to adding new features. But we can all hope. Dave Carlson From my Dell Latitude 630.----- Original Message ----- From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 15:43 Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week why do not wait before making any comments. -----Original Message----- From: Alex Stone Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:28 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week John, you can hope, but knowing fs, they'll have changed them just to piss you off. Cheers Alex -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of John Martyn Sent: 08 September 2011 23:24 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week That's what we're about to find out actually. I am hoping there is no change to the scripts though. I'll especially need this beta to start working on my next project which I am not announcing yet. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:19 PM Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week I am. Could I use the scripts with 13?<http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201109 08/ed5b7576/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com Holger Fiallo Kind Regard _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com Holger Fiallo Kind Regard _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com Holger Fiallo Kind Regard _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Paul Faucheux
On 9/8/2011 5:02 PM, John Martyn wrote:
Hi all,hi john martin i am going to test it also next week!!!!!
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don wardlow <wardlows97@...>
Your beta test must have been more successful than what I was grudgingly
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allowed to do after we exchanged vows. I might try the download, then see if I can hit up my family for the $$ to buy it for real, since I doubt my state will help. Don
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 8:47 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week Don, That's funny! I actually was a beta-tester in that sense, and still got married. In any case, you can download a "beta" from FS and use it as long as the version is not released. Once it's released, the "beta" is supposed to expire and you will need to either use up an SMA or purchase. Dave Carlson From my Dell Latitude 630.----- Original Message ----- From: "don wardlow" <wardlows97@bellsouth.net> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 16:17 Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week Will it be free to download and play with? I thought 13 would be one we had to pay for. I think beta-testing is a good idea. If my wife had let me beta-test her, I'd still be single! lol Don -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 7:08 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week when it comes out next week, just download it. play with it and report problems. The more people do so it will be better. -----Original Message----- From: Alex Stone Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 6:04 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week Holger, I've been using JAWS since 3.30, how do I become a beta tester? Cheers Alex -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo Sent: 08 September 2011 23:58 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week I got that. I had been using jaws since it came out. I suggest for those who love complaining to be beta testers to help. Also if someone does not like the product purchase another program. -----Original Message----- From: Farfar on Laptop Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:49 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week Holgar, Because FS has a track record of breaking things that used to work, with each revision. Of course in addition to adding new features. But we can all hope. Dave Carlson From my Dell Latitude 630.----- Original Message ----- From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 15:43 Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week why do not wait before making any comments. -----Original Message----- From: Alex Stone Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:28 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week John, you can hope, but knowing fs, they'll have changed them just to piss you off. Cheers Alex -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of John Martyn Sent: 08 September 2011 23:24 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week That's what we're about to find out actually. I am hoping there is no change to the scripts though. I'll especially need this beta to start working on my next project which I am not announcing yet. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:19 PM Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week I am. 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Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
I hear that! I have to pay out of pocket now seeing as my case closed with
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the state two weeks ago. I hope its worth it before I make the final leap to purchase 13 and the SMA...
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of don wardlow Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 6:24 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week Your beta test must have been more successful than what I was grudgingly allowed to do after we exchanged vows. I might try the download, then see if I can hit up my family for the $$ to buy it for real, since I doubt my state will help. Don -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 8:47 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week Don, That's funny! I actually was a beta-tester in that sense, and still got married. In any case, you can download a "beta" from FS and use it as long as the version is not released. Once it's released, the "beta" is supposed to expire and you will need to either use up an SMA or purchase. Dave Carlson From my Dell Latitude 630.----- Original Message ----- From: "don wardlow" <wardlows97@bellsouth.net> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 16:17 Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week Will it be free to download and play with? I thought 13 would be one we had to pay for. I think beta-testing is a good idea. If my wife had let me beta-test her, I'd still be single! lol Don -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 7:08 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week when it comes out next week, just download it. play with it and report problems. The more people do so it will be better. -----Original Message----- From: Alex Stone Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 6:04 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week Holger, I've been using JAWS since 3.30, how do I become a beta tester? Cheers Alex -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo Sent: 08 September 2011 23:58 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week I got that. I had been using jaws since it came out. I suggest for those who love complaining to be beta testers to help. Also if someone does not like the product purchase another program. -----Original Message----- From: Farfar on Laptop Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:49 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week Holgar, Because FS has a track record of breaking things that used to work, with each revision. Of course in addition to adding new features. But we can all hope. Dave Carlson From my Dell Latitude 630.----- Original Message ----- From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 15:43 Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week why do not wait before making any comments. -----Original Message----- From: Alex Stone Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:28 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week John, you can hope, but knowing fs, they'll have changed them just to piss you off. Cheers Alex -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of John Martyn Sent: 08 September 2011 23:24 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week That's what we're about to find out actually. I am hoping there is no change to the scripts though. I'll especially need this beta to start working on my next project which I am not announcing yet. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:19 PM Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week I am. Could I use the scripts with 13?<http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201109 08/ed5b7576/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com Holger Fiallo Kind Regard _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com Holger Fiallo Kind Regard _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com Holger Fiallo Kind Regard _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Dave...
Don,
Unless you are time-constrained to purchase a new version, I'd wait for a while and watch this list to see what the users have to say about the new release. No point in paying for something that either broke what you had before, or didn't add anything you care about. Again presuming that you don't have an SMA clock ticking. Dave Carlson From my Dell Latitude 630.----- Original Message ----- From: "don wardlow" <wardlows97@bellsouth.net> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 18:23 Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week Your beta test must have been more successful than what I was grudgingly allowed to do after we exchanged vows. I might try the download, then see if I can hit up my family for the $$ to buy it for real, since I doubt my state will help. Don -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 8:47 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week Don, That's funny! I actually was a beta-tester in that sense, and still got married. In any case, you can download a "beta" from FS and use it as long as the version is not released. Once it's released, the "beta" is supposed to expire and you will need to either use up an SMA or purchase. Dave Carlson From my Dell Latitude 630.----- Original Message ----- From: "don wardlow" <wardlows97@bellsouth.net> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 16:17 Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week Will it be free to download and play with? I thought 13 would be one we had to pay for. I think beta-testing is a good idea. If my wife had let me beta-test her, I'd still be single! lol Don -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 7:08 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week when it comes out next week, just download it. play with it and report problems. The more people do so it will be better. -----Original Message----- From: Alex Stone Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 6:04 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week Holger, I've been using JAWS since 3.30, how do I become a beta tester? Cheers Alex -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo Sent: 08 September 2011 23:58 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week I got that. I had been using jaws since it came out. I suggest for those who love complaining to be beta testers to help. Also if someone does not like the product purchase another program. -----Original Message----- From: Farfar on Laptop Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:49 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week Holgar, Because FS has a track record of breaking things that used to work, with each revision. Of course in addition to adding new features. But we can all hope. Dave Carlson From my Dell Latitude 630.----- Original Message ----- From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 15:43 Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week why do not wait before making any comments. -----Original Message----- From: Alex Stone Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:28 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week John, you can hope, but knowing fs, they'll have changed them just to piss you off. Cheers Alex -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of John Martyn Sent: 08 September 2011 23:24 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week That's what we're about to find out actually. I am hoping there is no change to the scripts though. I'll especially need this beta to start working on my next project which I am not announcing yet. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:19 PM Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week I am. Could I use the scripts with 13?<http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201109 08/ed5b7576/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com Holger Fiallo Kind Regard _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com Holger Fiallo Kind Regard _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com Holger Fiallo Kind Regard _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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don wardlow <wardlows97@...>
No SMA clock. In fact, if I spend the long green, I mean to buy an SMA.
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Of course, I'll try to lean on my state person. I won't spend a dime on JAWS without at least one screaming argument with that party. Don
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 1:11 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week Don, Unless you are time-constrained to purchase a new version, I'd wait for a while and watch this list to see what the users have to say about the new release. No point in paying for something that either broke what you had before, or didn't add anything you care about. Again presuming that you don't have an SMA clock ticking. Dave Carlson From my Dell Latitude 630.----- Original Message ----- From: "don wardlow" <wardlows97@bellsouth.net> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 18:23 Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week Your beta test must have been more successful than what I was grudgingly allowed to do after we exchanged vows. I might try the download, then see if I can hit up my family for the $$ to buy it for real, since I doubt my state will help. Don -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 8:47 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week Don, That's funny! I actually was a beta-tester in that sense, and still got married. In any case, you can download a "beta" from FS and use it as long as the version is not released. Once it's released, the "beta" is supposed to expire and you will need to either use up an SMA or purchase. Dave Carlson From my Dell Latitude 630.----- Original Message ----- From: "don wardlow" <wardlows97@bellsouth.net> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 16:17 Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week Will it be free to download and play with? I thought 13 would be one we had to pay for. I think beta-testing is a good idea. If my wife had let me beta-test her, I'd still be single! lol Don -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 7:08 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week when it comes out next week, just download it. play with it and report problems. The more people do so it will be better. -----Original Message----- From: Alex Stone Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 6:04 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week Holger, I've been using JAWS since 3.30, how do I become a beta tester? Cheers Alex -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo Sent: 08 September 2011 23:58 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week I got that. I had been using jaws since it came out. I suggest for those who love complaining to be beta testers to help. Also if someone does not like the product purchase another program. -----Original Message----- From: Farfar on Laptop Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:49 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week Holgar, Because FS has a track record of breaking things that used to work, with each revision. Of course in addition to adding new features. But we can all hope. Dave Carlson From my Dell Latitude 630.----- Original Message ----- From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 15:43 Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week why do not wait before making any comments. -----Original Message----- From: Alex Stone Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:28 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week John, you can hope, but knowing fs, they'll have changed them just to piss you off. Cheers Alex -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of John Martyn Sent: 08 September 2011 23:24 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week That's what we're about to find out actually. I am hoping there is no change to the scripts though. I'll especially need this beta to start working on my next project which I am not announcing yet. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:19 PM Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week I am. 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John Martyn
God I hope not. I will be testing out more than just my scripts. I have office 2010 and office 2007 so I'd like to see what it does to them. Not to mention internet explorer and firefox.
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From: "Alex Stone" <alex.stone@gmail.com> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:28 PM Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week John, you can hope, but knowing fs, they'll have changed them just to piss
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