Jaws 13 out next week


John Martyn
 

Hi all,
I will be among the beta testers out there. Is anyone else going to try out the beta that comes out next week? I have to since I write scripts. Does anyone have a list of changes they are making with JAWS 13?
Thanks in advanced,
John Martyn
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Holger Fiallo <holgerfiallo@...>
 

I am. Could I use the scripts with 13?

-----Original Message-----
From: John Martyn
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: Jaws 13 out next week

Hi all,
I will be among the beta testers out there. Is anyone else going to try out the beta that comes out next week? I have to since I write scripts. Does anyone have a list of changes they are making with JAWS 13?
Thanks in advanced,
John Martyn
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John Martyn
 

That's what we're about to find out actually. I am hoping there is no change to the scripts though. I'll especially need this beta to start working on my next project which I am not announcing yet.
John

----- Original Message -----
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


I am. Could I use the scripts with 13?

-----Original Message-----
From: John Martyn
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: Jaws 13 out next week

Hi all,
I will be among the beta testers out there. Is anyone else going to try out the beta that comes out next week? I have to since I write scripts. Does anyone have a list of changes they are making with JAWS 13?
Thanks in advanced,
John Martyn
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Alex Stone <alex.stone@...>
 

John, you can hope, but knowing fs, they'll have changed them just to piss
you off.
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of John Martyn
Sent: 08 September 2011 23:24
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

That's what we're about to find out actually. I am hoping there is no change

to the scripts though. I'll especially need this beta to start working on my

next project which I am not announcing yet.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


I am. Could I use the scripts with 13?

-----Original Message-----
From: John Martyn
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: Jaws 13 out next week

Hi all,
I will be among the beta testers out there. Is anyone else going to try
out the beta that comes out next week? I have to since I write scripts.
Does anyone have a list of changes they are making with JAWS 13?
Thanks in advanced,
John Martyn
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why do not wait before making any comments.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Stone
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:28 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week

John, you can hope, but knowing fs, they'll have changed them just to piss
you off.
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of John Martyn
Sent: 08 September 2011 23:24
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

That's what we're about to find out actually. I am hoping there is no change

to the scripts though. I'll especially need this beta to start working on my

next project which I am not announcing yet.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


I am. Could I use the scripts with 13?

-----Original Message-----
From: John Martyn
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: Jaws 13 out next week

Hi all,
I will be among the beta testers out there. Is anyone else going to try
out the beta that comes out next week? I have to since I write scripts.
Does anyone have a list of changes they are making with JAWS 13?
Thanks in advanced,
John Martyn
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Dave...
 

Holgar,

Because FS has a track record of breaking things that used to work, with
each revision. Of course in addition to adding new features.

But we can all hope.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 15:43
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


why do not wait before making any comments.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Stone
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:28 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week

John, you can hope, but knowing fs, they'll have changed them just to piss
you off.
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of John Martyn
Sent: 08 September 2011 23:24
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

That's what we're about to find out actually. I am hoping there is no change

to the scripts though. I'll especially need this beta to start working on my

next project which I am not announcing yet.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


I am. Could I use the scripts with 13?

-----Original Message-----
From: John Martyn
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: Jaws 13 out next week

Hi all,
I will be among the beta testers out there. Is anyone else going to try
out the beta that comes out next week? I have to since I write scripts.
Does anyone have a list of changes they are making with JAWS 13?
Thanks in advanced,
John Martyn
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Holger Fiallo <holgerfiallo@...>
 

I got that. I had been using jaws since it came out. I suggest for those who love complaining to be beta testers to help. Also if someone does not like the product purchase another program.

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Holgar,

Because FS has a track record of breaking things that used to work, with
each revision. Of course in addition to adding new features.

But we can all hope.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 15:43
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


why do not wait before making any comments.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Stone
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:28 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week

John, you can hope, but knowing fs, they'll have changed them just to piss
you off.
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of John Martyn
Sent: 08 September 2011 23:24
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

That's what we're about to find out actually. I am hoping there is no change

to the scripts though. I'll especially need this beta to start working on my

next project which I am not announcing yet.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


I am. Could I use the scripts with 13?

-----Original Message-----
From: John Martyn
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: Jaws 13 out next week

Hi all,
I will be among the beta testers out there. Is anyone else going to try
out the beta that comes out next week? I have to since I write scripts.
Does anyone have a list of changes they are making with JAWS 13?
Thanks in advanced,
John Martyn
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Alex Stone <alex.stone@...>
 

Holger, I hate to say this, but I thought you were the person that brought
it up. Why shouldn't people make comments?
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: 08 September 2011 23:44
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

why do not wait before making any comments.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Stone
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:28 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week

John, you can hope, but knowing fs, they'll have changed them just to piss
you off.
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of John Martyn
Sent: 08 September 2011 23:24
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

That's what we're about to find out actually. I am hoping there is no change

to the scripts though. I'll especially need this beta to start working on my

next project which I am not announcing yet.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


I am. Could I use the scripts with 13?

-----Original Message-----
From: John Martyn
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: Jaws 13 out next week

Hi all,
I will be among the beta testers out there. Is anyone else going to try
out the beta that comes out next week? I have to since I write scripts.
Does anyone have a list of changes they are making with JAWS 13?
Thanks in advanced,
John Martyn
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Alex Stone <alex.stone@...>
 

Holger, I've been using JAWS since 3.30, how do I become a beta tester?
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: 08 September 2011 23:58
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

I got that. I had been using jaws since it came out. I suggest for those who

love complaining to be beta testers to help. Also if someone does not like
the product purchase another program.

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Holgar,

Because FS has a track record of breaking things that used to work, with
each revision. Of course in addition to adding new features.

But we can all hope.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 15:43
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


why do not wait before making any comments.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Stone
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:28 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week

John, you can hope, but knowing fs, they'll have changed them just to piss
you off.
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of John Martyn
Sent: 08 September 2011 23:24
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

That's what we're about to find out actually. I am hoping there is no change

to the scripts though. I'll especially need this beta to start working on my

next project which I am not announcing yet.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


I am. Could I use the scripts with 13?

-----Original Message-----
From: John Martyn
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: Jaws 13 out next week

Hi all,
I will be among the beta testers out there. Is anyone else going to try
out the beta that comes out next week? I have to since I write scripts.
Does anyone have a list of changes they are making with JAWS 13?
Thanks in advanced,
John Martyn
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when it comes out next week, just download it. play with it and report problems. The more people do so it will be better.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Stone
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 6:04 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week

Holger, I've been using JAWS since 3.30, how do I become a beta tester?
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: 08 September 2011 23:58
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

I got that. I had been using jaws since it came out. I suggest for those who

love complaining to be beta testers to help. Also if someone does not like
the product purchase another program.

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Holgar,

Because FS has a track record of breaking things that used to work, with
each revision. Of course in addition to adding new features.

But we can all hope.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 15:43
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


why do not wait before making any comments.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Stone
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:28 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week

John, you can hope, but knowing fs, they'll have changed them just to piss
you off.
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of John Martyn
Sent: 08 September 2011 23:24
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

That's what we're about to find out actually. I am hoping there is no change

to the scripts though. I'll especially need this beta to start working on my

next project which I am not announcing yet.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


I am. Could I use the scripts with 13?

-----Original Message-----
From: John Martyn
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: Jaws 13 out next week

Hi all,
I will be among the beta testers out there. Is anyone else going to try
out the beta that comes out next week? I have to since I write scripts.
Does anyone have a list of changes they are making with JAWS 13?
Thanks in advanced,
John Martyn
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don wardlow <wardlows97@...>
 

Will it be free to download and play with?
I thought 13 would be one we had to pay for.

I think beta-testing is a good idea. If my wife had let me beta-test her,
I'd still be single! lol

Don

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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 7:08 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

when it comes out next week, just download it. play with it and report
problems. The more people do so it will be better.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Stone
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 6:04 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week

Holger, I've been using JAWS since 3.30, how do I become a beta tester?
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: 08 September 2011 23:58
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

I got that. I had been using jaws since it came out. I suggest for those who

love complaining to be beta testers to help. Also if someone does not like
the product purchase another program.

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Holgar,

Because FS has a track record of breaking things that used to work, with
each revision. Of course in addition to adding new features.

But we can all hope.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 15:43
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


why do not wait before making any comments.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Stone
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:28 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week

John, you can hope, but knowing fs, they'll have changed them just to piss
you off.
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of John Martyn
Sent: 08 September 2011 23:24
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

That's what we're about to find out actually. I am hoping there is no change

to the scripts though. I'll especially need this beta to start working on my

next project which I am not announcing yet.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


I am. Could I use the scripts with 13?

-----Original Message-----
From: John Martyn
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: Jaws 13 out next week

Hi all,
I will be among the beta testers out there. Is anyone else going to try
out the beta that comes out next week? I have to since I write scripts.
Does anyone have a list of changes they are making with JAWS 13?
Thanks in advanced,
John Martyn
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Dave...
 

Holgar,

If I were a true beta tester the product would never get released. I'm too
critical of flaws.

And mind your sharp tongue, young man! There is no shame in pointing out
flaws in a product, even if there is no other reasonable substitute.


Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 15:58
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


I got that. I had been using jaws since it came out. I suggest for those who
love complaining to be beta testers to help. Also if someone does not like
the product purchase another program.

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Holgar,

Because FS has a track record of breaking things that used to work, with
each revision. Of course in addition to adding new features.

But we can all hope.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 15:43
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


why do not wait before making any comments.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Stone
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:28 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week

John, you can hope, but knowing fs, they'll have changed them just to piss
you off.
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of John Martyn
Sent: 08 September 2011 23:24
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

That's what we're about to find out actually. I am hoping there is no change

to the scripts though. I'll especially need this beta to start working on my

next project which I am not announcing yet.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


I am. Could I use the scripts with 13?

-----Original Message-----
From: John Martyn
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: Jaws 13 out next week

Hi all,
I will be among the beta testers out there. Is anyone else going to try
out the beta that comes out next week? I have to since I write scripts.
Does anyone have a list of changes they are making with JAWS 13?
Thanks in advanced,
John Martyn
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Dave...
 

Holgar,

That's not a true beta test in the sense I mean. A true beta test is to have
a team of internal Freedom Scientific power-users who are assigned specific
features and test specific applications on a new platform, trying all sorts
of combinations and permutations, then feeding the results back to the
development team. This ensures that all aspects of the software, both new
features and original features are tested to make sure they all play
together.

What FS does is actually a disservice to the customers, as it really says
that they don't have the resources or patience to do all the necessary
brute-force testing inside their walls. Instead they push out the product
and hope that the general user population will somehow catch the bugs they
could not.

And in fact the testing done by the general public is not structured so not
a chance that it will cover all the areas that need testing. I would expect
that most of the public beta-so-called-testers are just users who want an
early copy to try out and start using, and don't bother wringing out all the
capabilities and combinations of applications for integrity. It's a lot like
shooting craps, and hoping that you eventually cover all the possible bets
in a single evening.


Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 16:08
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


when it comes out next week, just download it. play with it and report
problems. The more people do so it will be better.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Stone
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 6:04 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week

Holger, I've been using JAWS since 3.30, how do I become a beta tester?
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: 08 September 2011 23:58
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

I got that. I had been using jaws since it came out. I suggest for those who

love complaining to be beta testers to help. Also if someone does not like
the product purchase another program.

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Holgar,

Because FS has a track record of breaking things that used to work, with
each revision. Of course in addition to adding new features.

But we can all hope.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 15:43
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


why do not wait before making any comments.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Stone
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:28 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week

John, you can hope, but knowing fs, they'll have changed them just to piss
you off.
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of John Martyn
Sent: 08 September 2011 23:24
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

That's what we're about to find out actually. I am hoping there is no change

to the scripts though. I'll especially need this beta to start working on my

next project which I am not announcing yet.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


I am. Could I use the scripts with 13?

-----Original Message-----
From: John Martyn
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: Jaws 13 out next week

Hi all,
I will be among the beta testers out there. Is anyone else going to try
out the beta that comes out next week? I have to since I write scripts.
Does anyone have a list of changes they are making with JAWS 13?
Thanks in advanced,
John Martyn
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Dave...
 

Don,

That's funny! I actually was a beta-tester in that sense, and still got
married.

In any case, you can download a "beta" from FS and use it as long as the
version is not released. Once it's released, the "beta" is supposed to
expire and you will need to either use up an SMA or purchase.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "don wardlow" <wardlows97@bellsouth.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 16:17
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week


Will it be free to download and play with?
I thought 13 would be one we had to pay for.

I think beta-testing is a good idea. If my wife had let me beta-test her,
I'd still be single! lol

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 7:08 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

when it comes out next week, just download it. play with it and report
problems. The more people do so it will be better.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Stone
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 6:04 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week

Holger, I've been using JAWS since 3.30, how do I become a beta tester?
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: 08 September 2011 23:58
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

I got that. I had been using jaws since it came out. I suggest for those who

love complaining to be beta testers to help. Also if someone does not like
the product purchase another program.

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Holgar,

Because FS has a track record of breaking things that used to work, with
each revision. Of course in addition to adding new features.

But we can all hope.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 15:43
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


why do not wait before making any comments.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Stone
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:28 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week

John, you can hope, but knowing fs, they'll have changed them just to piss
you off.
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of John Martyn
Sent: 08 September 2011 23:24
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

That's what we're about to find out actually. I am hoping there is no change

to the scripts though. I'll especially need this beta to start working on my

next project which I am not announcing yet.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


I am. Could I use the scripts with 13?

-----Original Message-----
From: John Martyn
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: Jaws 13 out next week

Hi all,
I will be among the beta testers out there. Is anyone else going to try
out the beta that comes out next week? I have to since I write scripts.
Does anyone have a list of changes they are making with JAWS 13?
Thanks in advanced,
John Martyn
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Paul Faucheux
 

On 9/8/2011 5:02 PM, John Martyn wrote:
Hi all,
I will be among the beta testers out there. Is anyone else going to try out the beta that comes out next week? I have to since I write scripts. Does anyone have a list of changes they are making with JAWS 13?
Thanks in advanced,
John Martyn
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hi john martin i am going to test it also next week!!!!!


don wardlow <wardlows97@...>
 

Your beta test must have been more successful than what I was grudgingly
allowed to do after we exchanged vows.

I might try the download, then see if I can hit up my family for the $$ to
buy it for real, since I doubt my state will help.

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 8:47 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Don,

That's funny! I actually was a beta-tester in that sense, and still got
married.

In any case, you can download a "beta" from FS and use it as long as the
version is not released. Once it's released, the "beta" is supposed to
expire and you will need to either use up an SMA or purchase.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "don wardlow" <wardlows97@bellsouth.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 16:17
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week


Will it be free to download and play with?
I thought 13 would be one we had to pay for.

I think beta-testing is a good idea. If my wife had let me beta-test her,
I'd still be single! lol

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 7:08 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

when it comes out next week, just download it. play with it and report
problems. The more people do so it will be better.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Stone
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 6:04 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week

Holger, I've been using JAWS since 3.30, how do I become a beta tester?
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: 08 September 2011 23:58
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

I got that. I had been using jaws since it came out. I suggest for those who

love complaining to be beta testers to help. Also if someone does not like
the product purchase another program.

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Holgar,

Because FS has a track record of breaking things that used to work, with
each revision. Of course in addition to adding new features.

But we can all hope.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 15:43
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


why do not wait before making any comments.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Stone
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:28 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week

John, you can hope, but knowing fs, they'll have changed them just to piss
you off.
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of John Martyn
Sent: 08 September 2011 23:24
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

That's what we're about to find out actually. I am hoping there is no change

to the scripts though. I'll especially need this beta to start working on my

next project which I am not announcing yet.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


I am. Could I use the scripts with 13?

-----Original Message-----
From: John Martyn
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: Jaws 13 out next week

Hi all,
I will be among the beta testers out there. Is anyone else going to try
out the beta that comes out next week? I have to since I write scripts.
Does anyone have a list of changes they are making with JAWS 13?
Thanks in advanced,
John Martyn
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Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

I hear that! I have to pay out of pocket now seeing as my case closed with
the state two weeks ago. I hope its worth it before I make the final leap to
purchase 13 and the SMA...

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of don wardlow
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 6:24 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week

Your beta test must have been more successful than what I was grudgingly
allowed to do after we exchanged vows.

I might try the download, then see if I can hit up my family for the $$ to
buy it for real, since I doubt my state will help.

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 8:47 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Don,

That's funny! I actually was a beta-tester in that sense, and still got
married.

In any case, you can download a "beta" from FS and use it as long as the
version is not released. Once it's released, the "beta" is supposed to
expire and you will need to either use up an SMA or purchase.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "don wardlow" <wardlows97@bellsouth.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 16:17
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week


Will it be free to download and play with?
I thought 13 would be one we had to pay for.

I think beta-testing is a good idea. If my wife had let me beta-test her,
I'd still be single! lol

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 7:08 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

when it comes out next week, just download it. play with it and report
problems. The more people do so it will be better.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Stone
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 6:04 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week

Holger, I've been using JAWS since 3.30, how do I become a beta tester?
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: 08 September 2011 23:58
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

I got that. I had been using jaws since it came out. I suggest for those who

love complaining to be beta testers to help. Also if someone does not like
the product purchase another program.

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Holgar,

Because FS has a track record of breaking things that used to work, with
each revision. Of course in addition to adding new features.

But we can all hope.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 15:43
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


why do not wait before making any comments.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Stone
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:28 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week

John, you can hope, but knowing fs, they'll have changed them just to piss
you off.
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of John Martyn
Sent: 08 September 2011 23:24
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

That's what we're about to find out actually. I am hoping there is no change

to the scripts though. I'll especially need this beta to start working on my

next project which I am not announcing yet.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


I am. Could I use the scripts with 13?

-----Original Message-----
From: John Martyn
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: Jaws 13 out next week

Hi all,
I will be among the beta testers out there. Is anyone else going to try
out the beta that comes out next week? I have to since I write scripts.
Does anyone have a list of changes they are making with JAWS 13?
Thanks in advanced,
John Martyn
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Dave...
 

Don,

Unless you are time-constrained to purchase a new version, I'd wait for a
while and watch this list to see what the users have to say about the new
release. No point in paying for something that either broke what you had
before, or didn't add anything you care about.

Again presuming that you don't have an SMA clock ticking.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "don wardlow" <wardlows97@bellsouth.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 18:23
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week


Your beta test must have been more successful than what I was grudgingly
allowed to do after we exchanged vows.

I might try the download, then see if I can hit up my family for the $$ to
buy it for real, since I doubt my state will help.

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 8:47 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Don,

That's funny! I actually was a beta-tester in that sense, and still got
married.

In any case, you can download a "beta" from FS and use it as long as the
version is not released. Once it's released, the "beta" is supposed to
expire and you will need to either use up an SMA or purchase.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "don wardlow" <wardlows97@bellsouth.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 16:17
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week


Will it be free to download and play with?
I thought 13 would be one we had to pay for.

I think beta-testing is a good idea. If my wife had let me beta-test her,
I'd still be single! lol

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 7:08 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

when it comes out next week, just download it. play with it and report
problems. The more people do so it will be better.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Stone
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 6:04 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week

Holger, I've been using JAWS since 3.30, how do I become a beta tester?
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: 08 September 2011 23:58
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

I got that. I had been using jaws since it came out. I suggest for those who

love complaining to be beta testers to help. Also if someone does not like
the product purchase another program.

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Holgar,

Because FS has a track record of breaking things that used to work, with
each revision. Of course in addition to adding new features.

But we can all hope.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 15:43
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


why do not wait before making any comments.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Stone
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:28 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week

John, you can hope, but knowing fs, they'll have changed them just to piss
you off.
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of John Martyn
Sent: 08 September 2011 23:24
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

That's what we're about to find out actually. I am hoping there is no change

to the scripts though. I'll especially need this beta to start working on my

next project which I am not announcing yet.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


I am. Could I use the scripts with 13?

-----Original Message-----
From: John Martyn
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: Jaws 13 out next week

Hi all,
I will be among the beta testers out there. Is anyone else going to try
out the beta that comes out next week? I have to since I write scripts.
Does anyone have a list of changes they are making with JAWS 13?
Thanks in advanced,
John Martyn
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don wardlow <wardlows97@...>
 

No SMA clock. In fact, if I spend the long green, I mean to buy an SMA.
Of course, I'll try to lean on my state person. I won't spend a dime on JAWS
without at least one screaming argument with that party.

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 1:11 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Don,

Unless you are time-constrained to purchase a new version, I'd wait for a
while and watch this list to see what the users have to say about the new
release. No point in paying for something that either broke what you had
before, or didn't add anything you care about.

Again presuming that you don't have an SMA clock ticking.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "don wardlow" <wardlows97@bellsouth.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 18:23
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week


Your beta test must have been more successful than what I was grudgingly
allowed to do after we exchanged vows.

I might try the download, then see if I can hit up my family for the $$ to
buy it for real, since I doubt my state will help.

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 8:47 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Don,

That's funny! I actually was a beta-tester in that sense, and still got
married.

In any case, you can download a "beta" from FS and use it as long as the
version is not released. Once it's released, the "beta" is supposed to
expire and you will need to either use up an SMA or purchase.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "don wardlow" <wardlows97@bellsouth.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 16:17
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week


Will it be free to download and play with?
I thought 13 would be one we had to pay for.

I think beta-testing is a good idea. If my wife had let me beta-test her,
I'd still be single! lol

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 7:08 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

when it comes out next week, just download it. play with it and report
problems. The more people do so it will be better.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Stone
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 6:04 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week

Holger, I've been using JAWS since 3.30, how do I become a beta tester?
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: 08 September 2011 23:58
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

I got that. I had been using jaws since it came out. I suggest for those who

love complaining to be beta testers to help. Also if someone does not like
the product purchase another program.

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Holgar,

Because FS has a track record of breaking things that used to work, with
each revision. Of course in addition to adding new features.

But we can all hope.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 15:43
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


why do not wait before making any comments.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Stone
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:28 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week

John, you can hope, but knowing fs, they'll have changed them just to piss
you off.
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of John Martyn
Sent: 08 September 2011 23:24
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

That's what we're about to find out actually. I am hoping there is no change

to the scripts though. I'll especially need this beta to start working on my

next project which I am not announcing yet.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


I am. Could I use the scripts with 13?

-----Original Message-----
From: John Martyn
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: Jaws 13 out next week

Hi all,
I will be among the beta testers out there. Is anyone else going to try
out the beta that comes out next week? I have to since I write scripts.
Does anyone have a list of changes they are making with JAWS 13?
Thanks in advanced,
John Martyn
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God I hope not. I will be testing out more than just my scripts. I have office 2010 and office 2007 so I'd like to see what it does to them. Not to mention internet explorer and firefox.
John

----- Original Message -----
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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:28 PM
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week


John, you can hope, but knowing fs, they'll have changed them just to piss
you off.
Cheers
Alex

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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of John Martyn
Sent: 08 September 2011 23:24
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

That's what we're about to find out actually. I am hoping there is no change

to the scripts though. I'll especially need this beta to start working on my

next project which I am not announcing yet.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


I am. Could I use the scripts with 13?

-----Original Message-----
From: John Martyn
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: Jaws 13 out next week

Hi all,
I will be among the beta testers out there. Is anyone else going to try
out the beta that comes out next week? I have to since I write scripts.
Does anyone have a list of changes they are making with JAWS 13?
Thanks in advanced,
John Martyn
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