Karen:
Yesterday, if you remember, I assigned CTRL+ALT+J to JAWS 10 first and then JAWS 11. I then unloaded JAWS 10 and pressed the shortcut key combination to see which version of JAWS Windows would launch. In that instance, JAWS 11 was launched over JAWS 10.
Following your comments in your reply, I reversed the actions of my experiment, to see whether Windows reversed its action, that is, launch JAWS 10 over JAWS11.
I first deleted the CTRL+ALT+J shortcut key combination for JAWS 10 and JAWS 11.
I then assigned the shortcut key to JAWS 11 first and did the same with JAWS 10.
I then unloaded JAWS 10 and pressed CTRL+ALT+J and waited to see which version of JAWS would be loaded.
Well, surprise, surprise, Windows did reverse its action and launched JAWS 10 over JAWS 11.
It appears that if you assign the same shortcut key to more than one application, Windows will launch the last program to which you assigned the shortcut key combination, that is, the application which has the latest updated date and time stamps.
HTH
Sincerely:
Dave Durber
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Hughes" <khughes8@cogeco.ca> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 8:24 AM Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11toJaws12 dave if yuou assign a short cut then do the same action again using a different version of jaws. would it not react to the last request. this would eliminate the first request of the same thing. just a thought. please advise, karen
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@gmail.com> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11toJaws 12
Dave and everyone:
From what I can tell, the JAWS installation does not automatically assign CTRL+ALT+J, as a short cut to start JAWS.
I was using JAWS 10 at the time. As an experiment, I assigned CTRL+ALT+J, to both JAWS 10 and 11. Windows did not complain that I had assigned the short cut to two applications. I unloaded JAWS 10 and press CTRL+ALT+J and waited to see which version of JAWS would be loaded. Well, in my example, JAWS 11 was loaded.
It would help, if Windows allowed only one occurrence of a short cut key combination to be allowed to launch a program. So, if you tried to assign a short cut combination that was already assigned to a program to another program, Windows would tell you that this was the case and give you another opportunity to choose another short cut combination for the other program.
Sincerely:
Dave Durber
----- Original Message ----- From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 10:44 AM Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11 toJaws 12
Mike,
Not quite.
Checking the "Start JAWS automatically" just ensure that JAWS will start up on boot of the computer.
When installing a new version (say from 11 to 12) a shortcut will be added to the desktop with the version number (e.g. JAWS 12) and it may or may not have the Ctrl+alt+J keystroke assigned.
If you have more than one major version of JAWS (9, 10, 11, 12) you could end up with a desktop shortcut for each, and usually the first one with the hotkey.
Users like Tom need to edit the shortcut preferences for the old version and the new to ensure that only one has the hotkey assigned.
Dave Carlson From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my comfort to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll try to remedy that situation.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" <mb69mach1@charter.net> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 5:14 Subject: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11 to Jaws 12
Hi Tom,
There is no need to transfer the alt, control, + J, keystroke. That is the default shortcut keystroke for all versions of Jaws. What you need to do is go to the Jaws12 context menu / options / basics and check the box to have Jaws12 start automatically. By checking this box in any version of Jaws, tells Jaws to use this particular keystroke as the shortcut keystroke. Hope this helps. Take care. Mike
----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Behler To: Jaws users e-mail list Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 12:17 AM Subject: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11 to Jaws 12
Hi, again.
I just thought of one more question here.
What is the best way to transfer the Alt Control J shortcut to Jaws 12 from Jaws 11, when doing the upgrade process?
I seem to recall having a problem with this once before in earlier upgrades, and can't remember how to resolve it.
All I remember is that I had great difficulty transferring the shortcut over to the new version of Jaws from the earlier version.
I would have thought that the "merge utilities" function would have taken care of this, but it didn't in my earlier upgrade efforts.
Thanks for putting up with all my questions lately.
Tom in Michigan
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Not necessarily. Assuming JAWS 11 is the latest version installed on your computer, it was automatically assigned the hot key Alt-Control-J when it was originally installed. Unless you delete this "hidden" hot key, it will always launch JAWS 11, even if you create the user-defined hot key Alt-Control-J for JAWS 10. As a rule, hot keys automatically assigned by an application take precedence over hot keys defined by the user. You can use Hot Key Detective to determine whether a particular hot key is application assigned or user assigned. When I installed the demo version of JAWS 10, Alt-Control-J, which had been created automatically when I originally installed JAWS 9, was automatically reassigned to JAWS 10. In order to reassign Alt-Control-J back to JAWS 9, my default version of JAWS, I had to use Hot Key Detective to delete Alt-Control-J from JAWS 10 and then use the Properties dialog of JAWS 9 to re-create it as a user-assigned hot key.
Gerald
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@gmail.com> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 12:02 PM Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11toJaws12 Karen:
Yesterday, if you remember, I assigned CTRL+ALT+J to JAWS 10 first and then JAWS 11. I then unloaded JAWS 10 and pressed the shortcut key combination to see which version of JAWS Windows would launch. In that instance, JAWS 11 was launched over JAWS 10.
Following your comments in your reply, I reversed the actions of my experiment, to see whether Windows reversed its action, that is, launch JAWS 10 over JAWS11.
I first deleted the CTRL+ALT+J shortcut key combination for JAWS 10 and JAWS 11.
I then assigned the shortcut key to JAWS 11 first and did the same with JAWS 10.
I then unloaded JAWS 10 and pressed CTRL+ALT+J and waited to see which version of JAWS would be loaded.
Well, surprise, surprise, Windows did reverse its action and launched JAWS 10 over JAWS 11.
It appears that if you assign the same shortcut key to more than one application, Windows will launch the last program to which you assigned the shortcut key combination, that is, the application which has the latest updated date and time stamps.
HTH
Sincerely:
Dave Durber
----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Hughes" <khughes8@cogeco.ca> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 8:24 AM Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11toJaws12
dave if yuou assign a short cut then do the same action again using a different version of jaws. would it not react to the last request. this would eliminate the first request of the same thing. just a thought. please advise, karen
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@gmail.com> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11toJaws 12
Dave and everyone:
From what I can tell, the JAWS installation does not automatically assign CTRL+ALT+J, as a short cut to start JAWS.
I was using JAWS 10 at the time. As an experiment, I assigned CTRL+ALT+J, to both JAWS 10 and 11. Windows did not complain that I had assigned the short cut to two applications. I unloaded JAWS 10 and press CTRL+ALT+J and waited to see which version of JAWS would be loaded. Well, in my example, JAWS 11 was loaded.
It would help, if Windows allowed only one occurrence of a short cut key combination to be allowed to launch a program. So, if you tried to assign a short cut combination that was already assigned to a program to another program, Windows would tell you that this was the case and give you another opportunity to choose another short cut combination for the other program.
Sincerely:
Dave Durber
----- Original Message ----- From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 10:44 AM Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11 toJaws 12
Mike,
Not quite.
Checking the "Start JAWS automatically" just ensure that JAWS will start up on boot of the computer.
When installing a new version (say from 11 to 12) a shortcut will be added to the desktop with the version number (e.g. JAWS 12) and it may or may not have the Ctrl+alt+J keystroke assigned.
If you have more than one major version of JAWS (9, 10, 11, 12) you could end up with a desktop shortcut for each, and usually the first one with the hotkey.
Users like Tom need to edit the shortcut preferences for the old version and the new to ensure that only one has the hotkey assigned.
Dave Carlson From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my comfort to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll try to remedy that situation.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" <mb69mach1@charter.net> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 5:14 Subject: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11 to Jaws 12
Hi Tom,
There is no need to transfer the alt, control, + J, keystroke. That is the default shortcut keystroke for all versions of Jaws. What you need to do is go to the Jaws12 context menu / options / basics and check the box to have Jaws12 start automatically. By checking this box in any version of Jaws, tells Jaws to use this particular keystroke as the shortcut keystroke. Hope this helps. Take care. Mike
----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Behler To: Jaws users e-mail list Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 12:17 AM Subject: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11 to Jaws 12
Hi, again.
I just thought of one more question here.
What is the best way to transfer the Alt Control J shortcut to Jaws 12 from Jaws 11, when doing the upgrade process?
I seem to recall having a problem with this once before in earlier upgrades, and can't remember how to resolve it.
All I remember is that I had great difficulty transferring the shortcut over to the new version of Jaws from the earlier version.
I would have thought that the "merge utilities" function would have taken care of this, but it didn't in my earlier upgrade efforts.
Thanks for putting up with all my questions lately.
Tom in Michigan
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