On 10/22/11, Dave Scrimenti <dscrimenti@comcast.net> wrote:

I know they don't care about us, but there may be some legal accessibility
requirements for certain government contracts that they do care about. Also,
if the corporate world rejects 8 like it did Vista, Microsoft will have to
keep 7 around longer than they want.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nickus de Vos" <bigboy529@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines

I don't have any details but I know it won't work with jaws as it
currently is maybe not even with jaws 13 and not at all with older
jaws like previous windows versions did with old and new jaws. There's
something some mirroring thing used in windows which is assential for
jaws to work and microsoft didn't use this mirroring thing in windows
8 and apparently jaws rely on it quite a lot. As far as I've heard it
will take a total redesign of jaws to make it work with win8. I know
that the free screen reader NVDA is already very accessible with win8,
they are already doing beta testing and adapting it and there's only
some stuff that's not working think the other day they said it's about
90% accessible. As for getting hold of win7 when 8 is out, yes if
microsoft continues as it does at the moment it won't be a problem As
for you saying we'll get it if windows 8 is not accessible, just
remember we are nothing to microsoft, they'll make no exceptions to a
bunch of blind users which makes out 0.000000001% of their user base
they can do without our money and won't give a damm about us not
beeing able to use windows 8.

On 10/21/11, Dave Scrimenti <dscrimenti@comcast.net> wrote:

I'm hoping Windows 8 will be accessible when it's finally officially
released. I don't know. Have you heard anything one way or the other? I
don't think we'll have too much trouble getting Win 7, especially if
there's
no good access for 8.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nickus de Vos" <bigboy529@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines

Ok I get what you guys are saying why fix something if it aint broken
and if it works for you I guess I'm just somewhat of a tech junky I
like the latest and the gratest if it works for me of caurse. I wasn't
implying that win7 would be the last accessible windows I only ment
that win8 won't be accessible imidietly and microsoft may stop people
from buying win7 once 8 is out and if you have a problem then, or have
to upgrade from xp then you're basically screwed. It is unlikely that
microsoft will stop you from buying 7 once 8 is out but you never
know, a lot of companies stop you from buying older versions of
software once the newer versions gets released, they force people to
buy the latest versions. Microsoft didn't do this in the past, we can
still go out and buy xp, vista or even win 98 if you can find it but
you never know they might change their tune.

On 10/21/11, Dave Scrimenti <dscrimenti@comcast.net> wrote:

I agree Ted. And as someone who uses Total Recorder daily to record TV
shows
etc, I'm much better off with XP than with 7. Besides, Nickus actually
makes
good arguments against his own position. He admits that 8 will be out
soon.
So why get 7? I could be wrong, but I assume 7 won't be the last
accessible
Windows version. He also says: "one of these days new programs will
start

having problems running on xp systems". That's true, but it's not
happening yet with anything I'm running. So why anticipate it? And
some
programs, such as the one I mentioned, Total Recorder, run better
under
XP. To me, the only reasons to upgrade are if you're running something
that doesn't work well on XP, or buying a new computer, because Unless
you

build it yourself, it will come with an OS, and that will be 7.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 10:09 AM
Subject: RE: What to do about XP machines

I don't feel a burning need to explain my buying decisions, but I guess
I figure if it's not broken don't fix it. I don't usually do what the
industry tells me, but rather what works. It has nothing to do with
7,
which I would probably enjoy, from all I've read; it has everything to
do with losing a convenient configuration to a total reformat. I
think
Tech Republic had a piece a while back on an upgrade scheme involving
a
dual boot arrangement. Once there, after making sure everything
works,
simply remove the old OS. If HP offered an OEM version, I might
consider that, but there's no such animal.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Nickus de Vos
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 4:17 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines

I personally don't know why people is still clinging to xp. I never
had problems with windows 7 and have been using it since its beta days
and it's really not such a big learning curve. If I were you guys
rather upgrade to windows 7 now before 8 comes out because right now
not even jaws 13 will work with windows 8 not even mentioning older
jaws versions and once windows 8 is out it might be difficult to get
hold of a copy of 7. I look at it this way, the world is moving on, so
should I. Adapt or die if technology moves on we as disabled people
can't stay behind. Plus, one of these days new programs will start
having problems running on xp systems, the developers won't put in
effort to make it work on a old windows version, if it works cool but
if not they won't brake their backs in trying to make it work.

On 10/19/11, Lisle, Ted <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov> wrote:

After reading the list of fixes, I've decided to take the plunge

again,

but I'm not going to go to the trouble until the product release. I

was

wondering if service packs might make a difference. I don't remember
what I have at home; it's 2 here. As I recall the differences
between

2

and 3 were supposed to be insignificant, and good luck finding a

service

pack for XP now.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Londa Peterson
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 2:46 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: What to do about XP machines

I have used JAWS 11, 12 and 13 on a Windows XP pro machine with
Office
2007.
I haven't really had any problems especially since I got my newer
machine.
I did have the problem with Excel 2007, but I was able to fix that.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 2:05 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: What to do about XP machines

Any of you guys using Office 2007 or later with XP Pro? Please

contact

me off list.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Robert Westfall
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 2:22 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: What to do about XP machines

Same here Jaws 12 latest build on an xp pro sp3 machine. All working
just
fine.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Pat Byrne
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 2:15 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines

Running JFW12 on an XP/SP3 machine with no difficulties.
Pat ByrneAt 11:38 AM 8/21/2011, you wrote:

Ok, Steve. ... Thanks for the response.

I'm going to play it cool for a while here and see what other
feedback

I
get.

Actually, I think my time and energy this week will be spent getting
Jaws 12 up and running on the new Windows 7 laptop the University
will be giving me, so the XP thing can wait for a bit.

Tom in Michigan


----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve" <k8sp@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines

Tom,

While several people have reported issues, I've not had any and I
am running XP here with Jaws 12 Pro.

Steve,
Lansing, MI

----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Behler"
<tombehler@gmail.com>
To: "Jaws users e-mail list" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:27 AM
Subject: What to do about XP machines

Hello, everyone.

In a recent post, I believe Adrian said the following:

"Many listers have reported flaws in JAWS 12,
possibly because it is more directed to Windows 7 than XP. ... I
still use XP Pro,
and the warnings on this list have convinced me to stay with JAWS

11,

even

though my SMA entitles me to JAWS 12."

The timing for this comment couldn't have been better in my case.

Although this is likely to change soon as my University switches
us all completely over to Windows 7, my desktop at work is still
an XP machine, and still has Jaws 11. The back-up PC I have at
home is an XP machine, and that too has Jaws 11.

So, is the collective wisdom of the group to keep things as they
are now on the XP machines, rather than installing Jaws 12 which
seems to be geared more to Windows 7?

If this is true, you guys have just saved me some head-aches with
my remaining XP computers, and I thank you sincerely for that.

I'll save my headaches for installing Jaws 12 on the new Windows 7
laptop the University will give me this week. (smile)

Tom in Michigan


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----- Original Message -----
From: "Nickus de Vos" <bigboy529@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines

I don't have any details but I know it won't work with jaws as it
currently is maybe not even with jaws 13 and not at all with older
jaws like previous windows versions did with old and new jaws. There's
something some mirroring thing used in windows which is assential for
jaws to work and microsoft didn't use this mirroring thing in windows
8 and apparently jaws rely on it quite a lot. As far as I've heard it
will take a total redesign of jaws to make it work with win8. I know
that the free screen reader NVDA is already very accessible with win8,
they are already doing beta testing and adapting it and there's only
some stuff that's not working think the other day they said it's about
90% accessible. As for getting hold of win7 when 8 is out, yes if
microsoft continues as it does at the moment it won't be a problem As
for you saying we'll get it if windows 8 is not accessible, just
remember we are nothing to microsoft, they'll make no exceptions to a
bunch of blind users which makes out 0.000000001% of their user base
they can do without our money and won't give a damm about us not
beeing able to use windows 8.

On 10/21/11, Dave Scrimenti <dscrimenti@comcast.net> wrote:

I'm hoping Windows 8 will be accessible when it's finally officially
released. I don't know. Have you heard anything one way or the other? I
don't think we'll have too much trouble getting Win 7, especially if there's
no good access for 8.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nickus de Vos" <bigboy529@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines

Ok I get what you guys are saying why fix something if it aint broken
and if it works for you I guess I'm just somewhat of a tech junky I
like the latest and the gratest if it works for me of caurse. I wasn't
implying that win7 would be the last accessible windows I only ment
that win8 won't be accessible imidietly and microsoft may stop people
from buying win7 once 8 is out and if you have a problem then, or have
to upgrade from xp then you're basically screwed. It is unlikely that
microsoft will stop you from buying 7 once 8 is out but you never
know, a lot of companies stop you from buying older versions of
software once the newer versions gets released, they force people to
buy the latest versions. Microsoft didn't do this in the past, we can
still go out and buy xp, vista or even win 98 if you can find it but
you never know they might change their tune.

On 10/21/11, Dave Scrimenti <dscrimenti@comcast.net> wrote:

I agree Ted. And as someone who uses Total Recorder daily to record TV
shows
etc, I'm much better off with XP than with 7. Besides, Nickus actually
makes
good arguments against his own position. He admits that 8 will be out
soon.
So why get 7? I could be wrong, but I assume 7 won't be the last
accessible
Windows version. He also says: "one of these days new programs will start

having problems running on xp systems". That's true, but it's not
happening yet with anything I'm running. So why anticipate it? And some
programs, such as the one I mentioned, Total Recorder, run better under
XP. To me, the only reasons to upgrade are if you're running something
that doesn't work well on XP, or buying a new computer, because Unless
you

build it yourself, it will come with an OS, and that will be 7.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 10:09 AM
Subject: RE: What to do about XP machines

I don't feel a burning need to explain my buying decisions, but I guess
I figure if it's not broken don't fix it. I don't usually do what the
industry tells me, but rather what works. It has nothing to do with 7,
which I would probably enjoy, from all I've read; it has everything to
do with losing a convenient configuration to a total reformat. I think
Tech Republic had a piece a while back on an upgrade scheme involving a
dual boot arrangement. Once there, after making sure everything works,
simply remove the old OS. If HP offered an OEM version, I might
consider that, but there's no such animal.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Nickus de Vos
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 4:17 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines

I personally don't know why people is still clinging to xp. I never
had problems with windows 7 and have been using it since its beta days
and it's really not such a big learning curve. If I were you guys
rather upgrade to windows 7 now before 8 comes out because right now
not even jaws 13 will work with windows 8 not even mentioning older
jaws versions and once windows 8 is out it might be difficult to get
hold of a copy of 7. I look at it this way, the world is moving on, so
should I. Adapt or die if technology moves on we as disabled people
can't stay behind. Plus, one of these days new programs will start
having problems running on xp systems, the developers won't put in
effort to make it work on a old windows version, if it works cool but
if not they won't brake their backs in trying to make it work.

On 10/19/11, Lisle, Ted <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov> wrote:

After reading the list of fixes, I've decided to take the plunge

again,

but I'm not going to go to the trouble until the product release. I

was

wondering if service packs might make a difference. I don't remember
what I have at home; it's 2 here. As I recall the differences between

2

and 3 were supposed to be insignificant, and good luck finding a

service

pack for XP now.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Londa Peterson
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 2:46 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: What to do about XP machines

I have used JAWS 11, 12 and 13 on a Windows XP pro machine with Office
2007.
I haven't really had any problems especially since I got my newer
machine.
I did have the problem with Excel 2007, but I was able to fix that.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 2:05 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: What to do about XP machines

Any of you guys using Office 2007 or later with XP Pro? Please

contact

me off list.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Robert Westfall
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 2:22 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: What to do about XP machines

Same here Jaws 12 latest build on an xp pro sp3 machine. All working
just
fine.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Pat Byrne
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 2:15 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines

Running JFW12 on an XP/SP3 machine with no difficulties.
Pat ByrneAt 11:38 AM 8/21/2011, you wrote:

Ok, Steve. ... Thanks for the response.

I'm going to play it cool for a while here and see what other feedback

I
get.

Actually, I think my time and energy this week will be spent getting
Jaws 12 up and running on the new Windows 7 laptop the University
will be giving me, so the XP thing can wait for a bit.

Tom in Michigan


----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve" <k8sp@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines

Tom,

While several people have reported issues, I've not had any and I
am running XP here with Jaws 12 Pro.

Steve,
Lansing, MI

----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: "Jaws users e-mail list" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:27 AM
Subject: What to do about XP machines

Hello, everyone.

In a recent post, I believe Adrian said the following:

"Many listers have reported flaws in JAWS 12,
possibly because it is more directed to Windows 7 than XP. ... I
still use XP Pro,
and the warnings on this list have convinced me to stay with JAWS

11,

even

though my SMA entitles me to JAWS 12."

The timing for this comment couldn't have been better in my case.

Although this is likely to change soon as my University switches
us all completely over to Windows 7, my desktop at work is still
an XP machine, and still has Jaws 11. The back-up PC I have at
home is an XP machine, and that too has Jaws 11.

So, is the collective wisdom of the group to keep things as they
are now on the XP machines, rather than installing Jaws 12 which
seems to be geared more to Windows 7?

If this is true, you guys have just saved me some head-aches with
my remaining XP computers, and I thank you sincerely for that.

I'll save my headaches for installing Jaws 12 on the new Windows 7
laptop the University will give me this week. (smile)

Tom in Michigan


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On 10/21/11, Dave Scrimenti <dscrimenti@comcast.net> wrote:

I'm hoping Windows 8 will be accessible when it's finally officially
released. I don't know. Have you heard anything one way or the other? I
don't think we'll have too much trouble getting Win 7, especially if there's
no good access for 8.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nickus de Vos" <bigboy529@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines

Ok I get what you guys are saying why fix something if it aint broken
and if it works for you I guess I'm just somewhat of a tech junky I
like the latest and the gratest if it works for me of caurse. I wasn't
implying that win7 would be the last accessible windows I only ment
that win8 won't be accessible imidietly and microsoft may stop people
from buying win7 once 8 is out and if you have a problem then, or have
to upgrade from xp then you're basically screwed. It is unlikely that
microsoft will stop you from buying 7 once 8 is out but you never
know, a lot of companies stop you from buying older versions of
software once the newer versions gets released, they force people to
buy the latest versions. Microsoft didn't do this in the past, we can
still go out and buy xp, vista or even win 98 if you can find it but
you never know they might change their tune.

On 10/21/11, Dave Scrimenti <dscrimenti@comcast.net> wrote:

I agree Ted. And as someone who uses Total Recorder daily to record TV
shows
etc, I'm much better off with XP than with 7. Besides, Nickus actually
makes
good arguments against his own position. He admits that 8 will be out
soon.
So why get 7? I could be wrong, but I assume 7 won't be the last
accessible
Windows version. He also says: "one of these days new programs will start

having problems running on xp systems". That's true, but it's not
happening yet with anything I'm running. So why anticipate it? And some
programs, such as the one I mentioned, Total Recorder, run better under
XP. To me, the only reasons to upgrade are if you're running something
that doesn't work well on XP, or buying a new computer, because Unless
you

build it yourself, it will come with an OS, and that will be 7.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 10:09 AM
Subject: RE: What to do about XP machines

I don't feel a burning need to explain my buying decisions, but I guess
I figure if it's not broken don't fix it. I don't usually do what the
industry tells me, but rather what works. It has nothing to do with 7,
which I would probably enjoy, from all I've read; it has everything to
do with losing a convenient configuration to a total reformat. I think
Tech Republic had a piece a while back on an upgrade scheme involving a
dual boot arrangement. Once there, after making sure everything works,
simply remove the old OS. If HP offered an OEM version, I might
consider that, but there's no such animal.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Nickus de Vos
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 4:17 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines

I personally don't know why people is still clinging to xp. I never
had problems with windows 7 and have been using it since its beta days
and it's really not such a big learning curve. If I were you guys
rather upgrade to windows 7 now before 8 comes out because right now
not even jaws 13 will work with windows 8 not even mentioning older
jaws versions and once windows 8 is out it might be difficult to get
hold of a copy of 7. I look at it this way, the world is moving on, so
should I. Adapt or die if technology moves on we as disabled people
can't stay behind. Plus, one of these days new programs will start
having problems running on xp systems, the developers won't put in
effort to make it work on a old windows version, if it works cool but
if not they won't brake their backs in trying to make it work.

On 10/19/11, Lisle, Ted <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov> wrote:

After reading the list of fixes, I've decided to take the plunge

again,

but I'm not going to go to the trouble until the product release. I

was

wondering if service packs might make a difference. I don't remember
what I have at home; it's 2 here. As I recall the differences between

2

and 3 were supposed to be insignificant, and good luck finding a

service

pack for XP now.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Londa Peterson
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 2:46 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: What to do about XP machines

I have used JAWS 11, 12 and 13 on a Windows XP pro machine with Office
2007.
I haven't really had any problems especially since I got my newer
machine.
I did have the problem with Excel 2007, but I was able to fix that.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 2:05 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: What to do about XP machines

Any of you guys using Office 2007 or later with XP Pro? Please

contact

me off list.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Robert Westfall
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 2:22 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: What to do about XP machines

Same here Jaws 12 latest build on an xp pro sp3 machine. All working
just
fine.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Pat Byrne
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 2:15 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines

Running JFW12 on an XP/SP3 machine with no difficulties.
Pat ByrneAt 11:38 AM 8/21/2011, you wrote:

Ok, Steve. ... Thanks for the response.

I'm going to play it cool for a while here and see what other feedback

I
get.

Actually, I think my time and energy this week will be spent getting
Jaws 12 up and running on the new Windows 7 laptop the University
will be giving me, so the XP thing can wait for a bit.

Tom in Michigan


----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve" <k8sp@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines

Tom,

While several people have reported issues, I've not had any and I
am running XP here with Jaws 12 Pro.

Steve,
Lansing, MI

----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: "Jaws users e-mail list" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:27 AM
Subject: What to do about XP machines

Hello, everyone.

In a recent post, I believe Adrian said the following:

"Many listers have reported flaws in JAWS 12,
possibly because it is more directed to Windows 7 than XP. ... I
still use XP Pro,
and the warnings on this list have convinced me to stay with JAWS

11,

even

though my SMA entitles me to JAWS 12."

The timing for this comment couldn't have been better in my case.

Although this is likely to change soon as my University switches
us all completely over to Windows 7, my desktop at work is still
an XP machine, and still has Jaws 11. The back-up PC I have at
home is an XP machine, and that too has Jaws 11.

So, is the collective wisdom of the group to keep things as they
are now on the XP machines, rather than installing Jaws 12 which
seems to be geared more to Windows 7?

If this is true, you guys have just saved me some head-aches with
my remaining XP computers, and I thank you sincerely for that.

I'll save my headaches for installing Jaws 12 on the new Windows 7
laptop the University will give me this week. (smile)

Tom in Michigan


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----- Original Message -----
From: "Nickus de Vos" <bigboy529@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines

Ok I get what you guys are saying why fix something if it aint broken
and if it works for you I guess I'm just somewhat of a tech junky I
like the latest and the gratest if it works for me of caurse. I wasn't
implying that win7 would be the last accessible windows I only ment
that win8 won't be accessible imidietly and microsoft may stop people
from buying win7 once 8 is out and if you have a problem then, or have
to upgrade from xp then you're basically screwed. It is unlikely that
microsoft will stop you from buying 7 once 8 is out but you never
know, a lot of companies stop you from buying older versions of
software once the newer versions gets released, they force people to
buy the latest versions. Microsoft didn't do this in the past, we can
still go out and buy xp, vista or even win 98 if you can find it but
you never know they might change their tune.

On 10/21/11, Dave Scrimenti <dscrimenti@comcast.net> wrote:

I agree Ted. And as someone who uses Total Recorder daily to record TV shows
etc, I'm much better off with XP than with 7. Besides, Nickus actually makes
good arguments against his own position. He admits that 8 will be out soon.
So why get 7? I could be wrong, but I assume 7 won't be the last accessible
Windows version. He also says: "one of these days new programs will start

having problems running on xp systems". That's true, but it's not
happening yet with anything I'm running. So why anticipate it? And some
programs, such as the one I mentioned, Total Recorder, run better under
XP. To me, the only reasons to upgrade are if you're running something
that doesn't work well on XP, or buying a new computer, because Unless you

build it yourself, it will come with an OS, and that will be 7.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 10:09 AM
Subject: RE: What to do about XP machines

I don't feel a burning need to explain my buying decisions, but I guess
I figure if it's not broken don't fix it. I don't usually do what the
industry tells me, but rather what works. It has nothing to do with 7,
which I would probably enjoy, from all I've read; it has everything to
do with losing a convenient configuration to a total reformat. I think
Tech Republic had a piece a while back on an upgrade scheme involving a
dual boot arrangement. Once there, after making sure everything works,
simply remove the old OS. If HP offered an OEM version, I might
consider that, but there's no such animal.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Nickus de Vos
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 4:17 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines

I personally don't know why people is still clinging to xp. I never
had problems with windows 7 and have been using it since its beta days
and it's really not such a big learning curve. If I were you guys
rather upgrade to windows 7 now before 8 comes out because right now
not even jaws 13 will work with windows 8 not even mentioning older
jaws versions and once windows 8 is out it might be difficult to get
hold of a copy of 7. I look at it this way, the world is moving on, so
should I. Adapt or die if technology moves on we as disabled people
can't stay behind. Plus, one of these days new programs will start
having problems running on xp systems, the developers won't put in
effort to make it work on a old windows version, if it works cool but
if not they won't brake their backs in trying to make it work.

On 10/19/11, Lisle, Ted <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov> wrote:

After reading the list of fixes, I've decided to take the plunge

again,

but I'm not going to go to the trouble until the product release. I

was

wondering if service packs might make a difference. I don't remember
what I have at home; it's 2 here. As I recall the differences between

2

and 3 were supposed to be insignificant, and good luck finding a

service

pack for XP now.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Londa Peterson
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 2:46 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: What to do about XP machines

I have used JAWS 11, 12 and 13 on a Windows XP pro machine with Office
2007.
I haven't really had any problems especially since I got my newer
machine.
I did have the problem with Excel 2007, but I was able to fix that.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 2:05 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: What to do about XP machines

Any of you guys using Office 2007 or later with XP Pro? Please

contact

me off list.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Robert Westfall
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 2:22 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: What to do about XP machines

Same here Jaws 12 latest build on an xp pro sp3 machine. All working
just
fine.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Pat Byrne
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 2:15 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines

Running JFW12 on an XP/SP3 machine with no difficulties.
Pat ByrneAt 11:38 AM 8/21/2011, you wrote:

Ok, Steve. ... Thanks for the response.

I'm going to play it cool for a while here and see what other feedback

I
get.

Actually, I think my time and energy this week will be spent getting
Jaws 12 up and running on the new Windows 7 laptop the University
will be giving me, so the XP thing can wait for a bit.

Tom in Michigan


----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve" <k8sp@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines

Tom,

While several people have reported issues, I've not had any and I
am running XP here with Jaws 12 Pro.

Steve,
Lansing, MI

----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: "Jaws users e-mail list" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:27 AM
Subject: What to do about XP machines

Hello, everyone.

In a recent post, I believe Adrian said the following:

"Many listers have reported flaws in JAWS 12,
possibly because it is more directed to Windows 7 than XP. ... I
still use XP Pro,
and the warnings on this list have convinced me to stay with JAWS

11,

even

though my SMA entitles me to JAWS 12."

The timing for this comment couldn't have been better in my case.

Although this is likely to change soon as my University switches
us all completely over to Windows 7, my desktop at work is still
an XP machine, and still has Jaws 11. The back-up PC I have at
home is an XP machine, and that too has Jaws 11.

So, is the collective wisdom of the group to keep things as they
are now on the XP machines, rather than installing Jaws 12 which
seems to be geared more to Windows 7?

If this is true, you guys have just saved me some head-aches with
my remaining XP computers, and I thank you sincerely for that.

I'll save my headaches for installing Jaws 12 on the new Windows 7
laptop the University will give me this week. (smile)

Tom in Michigan


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On 10/21/11, Dave Scrimenti <dscrimenti@comcast.net> wrote:

I agree Ted. And as someone who uses Total Recorder daily to record TV shows
etc, I'm much better off with XP than with 7. Besides, Nickus actually makes
good arguments against his own position. He admits that 8 will be out soon.
So why get 7? I could be wrong, but I assume 7 won't be the last accessible
Windows version. He also says: "one of these days new programs will start

having problems running on xp systems". That's true, but it's not
happening yet with anything I'm running. So why anticipate it? And some
programs, such as the one I mentioned, Total Recorder, run better under
XP. To me, the only reasons to upgrade are if you're running something
that doesn't work well on XP, or buying a new computer, because Unless you

build it yourself, it will come with an OS, and that will be 7.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 10:09 AM
Subject: RE: What to do about XP machines

I don't feel a burning need to explain my buying decisions, but I guess
I figure if it's not broken don't fix it. I don't usually do what the
industry tells me, but rather what works. It has nothing to do with 7,
which I would probably enjoy, from all I've read; it has everything to
do with losing a convenient configuration to a total reformat. I think
Tech Republic had a piece a while back on an upgrade scheme involving a
dual boot arrangement. Once there, after making sure everything works,
simply remove the old OS. If HP offered an OEM version, I might
consider that, but there's no such animal.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Nickus de Vos
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 4:17 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines

I personally don't know why people is still clinging to xp. I never
had problems with windows 7 and have been using it since its beta days
and it's really not such a big learning curve. If I were you guys
rather upgrade to windows 7 now before 8 comes out because right now
not even jaws 13 will work with windows 8 not even mentioning older
jaws versions and once windows 8 is out it might be difficult to get
hold of a copy of 7. I look at it this way, the world is moving on, so
should I. Adapt or die if technology moves on we as disabled people
can't stay behind. Plus, one of these days new programs will start
having problems running on xp systems, the developers won't put in
effort to make it work on a old windows version, if it works cool but
if not they won't brake their backs in trying to make it work.

On 10/19/11, Lisle, Ted <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov> wrote:

After reading the list of fixes, I've decided to take the plunge

again,

but I'm not going to go to the trouble until the product release. I

was

wondering if service packs might make a difference. I don't remember
what I have at home; it's 2 here. As I recall the differences between

2

and 3 were supposed to be insignificant, and good luck finding a

service

pack for XP now.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Londa Peterson
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 2:46 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: What to do about XP machines

I have used JAWS 11, 12 and 13 on a Windows XP pro machine with Office
2007.
I haven't really had any problems especially since I got my newer
machine.
I did have the problem with Excel 2007, but I was able to fix that.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 2:05 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: What to do about XP machines

Any of you guys using Office 2007 or later with XP Pro? Please

contact

me off list.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Robert Westfall
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 2:22 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: What to do about XP machines

Same here Jaws 12 latest build on an xp pro sp3 machine. All working
just
fine.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Pat Byrne
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 2:15 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines

Running JFW12 on an XP/SP3 machine with no difficulties.
Pat ByrneAt 11:38 AM 8/21/2011, you wrote:

Ok, Steve. ... Thanks for the response.

I'm going to play it cool for a while here and see what other feedback

I
get.

Actually, I think my time and energy this week will be spent getting
Jaws 12 up and running on the new Windows 7 laptop the University
will be giving me, so the XP thing can wait for a bit.

Tom in Michigan


----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve" <k8sp@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines

Tom,

While several people have reported issues, I've not had any and I
am running XP here with Jaws 12 Pro.

Steve,
Lansing, MI

----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: "Jaws users e-mail list" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:27 AM
Subject: What to do about XP machines

Hello, everyone.

In a recent post, I believe Adrian said the following:

"Many listers have reported flaws in JAWS 12,
possibly because it is more directed to Windows 7 than XP. ... I
still use XP Pro,
and the warnings on this list have convinced me to stay with JAWS

11,

even

though my SMA entitles me to JAWS 12."

The timing for this comment couldn't have been better in my case.

Although this is likely to change soon as my University switches
us all completely over to Windows 7, my desktop at work is still
an XP machine, and still has Jaws 11. The back-up PC I have at
home is an XP machine, and that too has Jaws 11.

So, is the collective wisdom of the group to keep things as they
are now on the XP machines, rather than installing Jaws 12 which
seems to be geared more to Windows 7?

If this is true, you guys have just saved me some head-aches with
my remaining XP computers, and I thank you sincerely for that.

I'll save my headaches for installing Jaws 12 on the new Windows 7
laptop the University will give me this week. (smile)

Tom in Michigan


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-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Nickus de Vos
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 4:17 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines

I personally don't know why people is still clinging to xp. I never
had problems with windows 7 and have been using it since its beta days
and it's really not such a big learning curve. If I were you guys
rather upgrade to windows 7 now before 8 comes out because right now
not even jaws 13 will work with windows 8 not even mentioning older
jaws versions and once windows 8 is out it might be difficult to get
hold of a copy of 7. I look at it this way, the world is moving on, so
should I. Adapt or die if technology moves on we as disabled people
can't stay behind. Plus, one of these days new programs will start
having problems running on xp systems, the developers won't put in
effort to make it work on a old windows version, if it works cool but
if not they won't brake their backs in trying to make it work.

On 10/19/11, Lisle, Ted <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov> wrote:

After reading the list of fixes, I've decided to take the plunge

again,

but I'm not going to go to the trouble until the product release. I

was

wondering if service packs might make a difference. I don't remember
what I have at home; it's 2 here. As I recall the differences between

2

and 3 were supposed to be insignificant, and good luck finding a

service

pack for XP now.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Londa Peterson
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 2:46 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: What to do about XP machines

I have used JAWS 11, 12 and 13 on a Windows XP pro machine with Office
2007.
I haven't really had any problems especially since I got my newer
machine.
I did have the problem with Excel 2007, but I was able to fix that.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 2:05 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: What to do about XP machines

Any of you guys using Office 2007 or later with XP Pro? Please

contact

me off list.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Robert Westfall
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 2:22 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: What to do about XP machines

Same here Jaws 12 latest build on an xp pro sp3 machine. All working
just
fine.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Pat Byrne
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 2:15 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines

Running JFW12 on an XP/SP3 machine with no difficulties.
Pat ByrneAt 11:38 AM 8/21/2011, you wrote:

Ok, Steve. ... Thanks for the response.

I'm going to play it cool for a while here and see what other feedback

I
get.

Actually, I think my time and energy this week will be spent getting
Jaws 12 up and running on the new Windows 7 laptop the University
will be giving me, so the XP thing can wait for a bit.

Tom in Michigan


----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve" <k8sp@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines

Tom,

While several people have reported issues, I've not had any and I
am running XP here with Jaws 12 Pro.

Steve,
Lansing, MI

----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: "Jaws users e-mail list" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:27 AM
Subject: What to do about XP machines

Hello, everyone.

In a recent post, I believe Adrian said the following:

"Many listers have reported flaws in JAWS 12,
possibly because it is more directed to Windows 7 than XP. ... I
still use XP Pro,
and the warnings on this list have convinced me to stay with JAWS

11,

even

though my SMA entitles me to JAWS 12."

The timing for this comment couldn't have been better in my case.

Although this is likely to change soon as my University switches
us all completely over to Windows 7, my desktop at work is still
an XP machine, and still has Jaws 11. The back-up PC I have at
home is an XP machine, and that too has Jaws 11.

So, is the collective wisdom of the group to keep things as they
are now on the XP machines, rather than installing Jaws 12 which
seems to be geared more to Windows 7?

If this is true, you guys have just saved me some head-aches with
my remaining XP computers, and I thank you sincerely for that.

I'll save my headaches for installing Jaws 12 on the new Windows 7
laptop the University will give me this week. (smile)

Tom in Michigan


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On 10/19/11, Lisle, Ted <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov> wrote:

After reading the list of fixes, I've decided to take the plunge again,
but I'm not going to go to the trouble until the product release. I was
wondering if service packs might make a difference. I don't remember
what I have at home; it's 2 here. As I recall the differences between 2
and 3 were supposed to be insignificant, and good luck finding a service
pack for XP now.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Londa Peterson
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 2:46 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: What to do about XP machines

I have used JAWS 11, 12 and 13 on a Windows XP pro machine with Office
2007.
I haven't really had any problems especially since I got my newer
machine.
I did have the problem with Excel 2007, but I was able to fix that.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 2:05 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: What to do about XP machines

Any of you guys using Office 2007 or later with XP Pro? Please contact
me off list.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Robert Westfall
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 2:22 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: What to do about XP machines

Same here Jaws 12 latest build on an xp pro sp3 machine. All working
just
fine.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Pat Byrne
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 2:15 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines

Running JFW12 on an XP/SP3 machine with no difficulties.
Pat ByrneAt 11:38 AM 8/21/2011, you wrote:

Ok, Steve. ... Thanks for the response.

I'm going to play it cool for a while here and see what other feedback

I
get.

Actually, I think my time and energy this week will be spent getting
Jaws 12 up and running on the new Windows 7 laptop the University
will be giving me, so the XP thing can wait for a bit.

Tom in Michigan


----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve" <k8sp@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines

Tom,

While several people have reported issues, I've not had any and I
am running XP here with Jaws 12 Pro.

Steve,
Lansing, MI

----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: "Jaws users e-mail list" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:27 AM
Subject: What to do about XP machines

Hello, everyone.

In a recent post, I believe Adrian said the following:

"Many listers have reported flaws in JAWS 12,
possibly because it is more directed to Windows 7 than XP. ... I
still use XP Pro,
and the warnings on this list have convinced me to stay with JAWS 11,

even

though my SMA entitles me to JAWS 12."

The timing for this comment couldn't have been better in my case.

Although this is likely to change soon as my University switches
us all completely over to Windows 7, my desktop at work is still
an XP machine, and still has Jaws 11. The back-up PC I have at
home is an XP machine, and that too has Jaws 11.

So, is the collective wisdom of the group to keep things as they
are now on the XP machines, rather than installing Jaws 12 which
seems to be geared more to Windows 7?

If this is true, you guys have just saved me some head-aches with
my remaining XP computers, and I thank you sincerely for that.

I'll save my headaches for installing Jaws 12 on the new Windows 7
laptop the University will give me this week. (smile)

Tom in Michigan


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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Londa Peterson
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 2:46 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: What to do about XP machines

I have used JAWS 11, 12 and 13 on a Windows XP pro machine with Office
2007.
I haven't really had any problems especially since I got my newer
machine.
I did have the problem with Excel 2007, but I was able to fix that.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 2:05 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: What to do about XP machines

Any of you guys using Office 2007 or later with XP Pro? Please contact
me off list.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Robert Westfall
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 2:22 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: What to do about XP machines

Same here Jaws 12 latest build on an xp pro sp3 machine. All working
just
fine.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Pat Byrne
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 2:15 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines

Running JFW12 on an XP/SP3 machine with no difficulties.
Pat ByrneAt 11:38 AM 8/21/2011, you wrote:

Ok, Steve. ... Thanks for the response.

I'm going to play it cool for a while here and see what other feedback

I
get.

Actually, I think my time and energy this week will be spent getting
Jaws 12 up and running on the new Windows 7 laptop the University
will be giving me, so the XP thing can wait for a bit.

Tom in Michigan


----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve" <k8sp@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines

Tom,

While several people have reported issues, I've not had any and I
am running XP here with Jaws 12 Pro.

Steve,
Lansing, MI

----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: "Jaws users e-mail list" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:27 AM
Subject: What to do about XP machines

Hello, everyone.

In a recent post, I believe Adrian said the following:

"Many listers have reported flaws in JAWS 12,
possibly because it is more directed to Windows 7 than XP. ... I
still use XP Pro,
and the warnings on this list have convinced me to stay with JAWS 11,

even

though my SMA entitles me to JAWS 12."

The timing for this comment couldn't have been better in my case.

Although this is likely to change soon as my University switches
us all completely over to Windows 7, my desktop at work is still
an XP machine, and still has Jaws 11. The back-up PC I have at
home is an XP machine, and that too has Jaws 11.

So, is the collective wisdom of the group to keep things as they
are now on the XP machines, rather than installing Jaws 12 which
seems to be geared more to Windows 7?

If this is true, you guys have just saved me some head-aches with
my remaining XP computers, and I thank you sincerely for that.

I'll save my headaches for installing Jaws 12 on the new Windows 7
laptop the University will give me this week. (smile)

Tom in Michigan


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----- Original Message -----
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 11:04 AM
Subject: RE: What to do about XP machines

Any of you guys using Office 2007 or later with XP Pro? Please contact
me off list.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Robert Westfall
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 2:22 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: What to do about XP machines

Same here Jaws 12 latest build on an xp pro sp3 machine. All working
just
fine.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Pat Byrne
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 2:15 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines

Running JFW12 on an XP/SP3 machine with no difficulties.
Pat ByrneAt 11:38 AM 8/21/2011, you wrote:

Ok, Steve. ... Thanks for the response.

I'm going to play it cool for a while here and see what other feedback

I
get.

Actually, I think my time and energy this week will be spent getting
Jaws 12 up and running on the new Windows 7 laptop the University
will be giving me, so the XP thing can wait for a bit.

Tom in Michigan


----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve" <k8sp@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines

Tom,

While several people have reported issues, I've not had any and I
am running XP here with Jaws 12 Pro.

Steve,
Lansing, MI

----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: "Jaws users e-mail list" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:27 AM
Subject: What to do about XP machines

Hello, everyone.

In a recent post, I believe Adrian said the following:

"Many listers have reported flaws in JAWS 12,
possibly because it is more directed to Windows 7 than XP. ... I
still use XP Pro,
and the warnings on this list have convinced me to stay with JAWS 11,

even

though my SMA entitles me to JAWS 12."

The timing for this comment couldn't have been better in my case.

Although this is likely to change soon as my University switches
us all completely over to Windows 7, my desktop at work is still
an XP machine, and still has Jaws 11. The back-up PC I have at
home is an XP machine, and that too has Jaws 11.

So, is the collective wisdom of the group to keep things as they
are now on the XP machines, rather than installing Jaws 12 which
seems to be geared more to Windows 7?

If this is true, you guys have just saved me some head-aches with
my remaining XP computers, and I thank you sincerely for that.

I'll save my headaches for installing Jaws 12 on the new Windows 7
laptop the University will give me this week. (smile)

Tom in Michigan


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On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 3:30 PM
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Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines

did she say anything about Excel?

At 03:33 PM 10/5/2011, you wrote:

How interesting many have had problems using excell with jaws 12
and xp how did you fix that? thanks dorothy
----- Original Message ----- From: "Londa Peterson"
<lpeterson@tricountyblind.org>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 7:45 PM
Subject: RE: What to do about XP machines

I have used JAWS 11, 12 and 13 on a Windows XP pro machine with
Office 2007.
I haven't really had any problems especially since I got my newer
machine.
I did have the problem with Excel 2007, but I was able to fix that.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 2:05 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: What to do about XP machines

Any of you guys using Office 2007 or later with XP Pro? Please
contact
me off list.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Robert Westfall
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 2:22 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: What to do about XP machines

Same here Jaws 12 latest build on an xp pro sp3 machine. All working
just
fine.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Pat Byrne
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 2:15 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines

Running JFW12 on an XP/SP3 machine with no difficulties.
Pat ByrneAt 11:38 AM 8/21/2011, you wrote:

Ok, Steve. ... Thanks for the response.

I'm going to play it cool for a while here and see what other
feedback

I
get.

Actually, I think my time and energy this week will be spent getting
Jaws 12 up and running on the new Windows 7 laptop the University
will be giving me, so the XP thing can wait for a bit.

Tom in Michigan


----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve" <k8sp@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines

Tom,

While several people have reported issues, I've not had any and I
am running XP here with Jaws 12 Pro.

Steve,
Lansing, MI

----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Behler"
<tombehler@gmail.com>
To: "Jaws users e-mail list" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:27 AM
Subject: What to do about XP machines

Hello, everyone.

In a recent post, I believe Adrian said the following:

"Many listers have reported flaws in JAWS 12,
possibly because it is more directed to Windows 7 than XP. ... I
still use XP Pro,
and the warnings on this list have convinced me to stay with
JAWS 11,

even

though my SMA entitles me to JAWS 12."

The timing for this comment couldn't have been better in my case.

Although this is likely to change soon as my University switches
us all completely over to Windows 7, my desktop at work is still
an XP machine, and still has Jaws 11. The back-up PC I have at
home is an XP machine, and that too has Jaws 11.

So, is the collective wisdom of the group to keep things as they
are now on the XP machines, rather than installing Jaws 12 which
seems to be geared more to Windows 7?

If this is true, you guys have just saved me some head-aches with
my remaining XP computers, and I thank you sincerely for that.

I'll save my headaches for installing Jaws 12 on the new Windows 7
laptop the University will give me this week. (smile)

Tom in Michigan


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On Behalf Of Londa Peterson
Sent: 05 October 2011 20:50
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: What to do about XP machines

Uninstall JAWS 12 including shared files and user settings. Then reinstall
it again. It fixed it for me. Remember to back up any special scripts you
may have installed before you do this.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Dorothy
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 3:34 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines

How interesting many have had problems using excell with jaws 12 and xp how
did you fix that? thanks dorothy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Londa Peterson" <lpeterson@tricountyblind.org>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 7:45 PM
Subject: RE: What to do about XP machines

I have used JAWS 11, 12 and 13 on a Windows XP pro machine with Office
2007.
I haven't really had any problems especially since I got my newer machine.
I did have the problem with Excel 2007, but I was able to fix that.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 2:05 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: What to do about XP machines

Any of you guys using Office 2007 or later with XP Pro? Please contact
me off list.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Robert Westfall
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 2:22 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: What to do about XP machines

Same here Jaws 12 latest build on an xp pro sp3 machine. All working
just
fine.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Pat Byrne
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 2:15 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines

Running JFW12 on an XP/SP3 machine with no difficulties.
Pat ByrneAt 11:38 AM 8/21/2011, you wrote:

Ok, Steve. ... Thanks for the response.

I'm going to play it cool for a while here and see what other feedback

I
get.

Actually, I think my time and energy this week will be spent getting
Jaws 12 up and running on the new Windows 7 laptop the University
will be giving me, so the XP thing can wait for a bit.

Tom in Michigan


----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve" <k8sp@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines

Tom,

While several people have reported issues, I've not had any and I
am running XP here with Jaws 12 Pro.

Steve,
Lansing, MI

----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: "Jaws users e-mail list" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:27 AM
Subject: What to do about XP machines

Hello, everyone.

In a recent post, I believe Adrian said the following:

"Many listers have reported flaws in JAWS 12,
possibly because it is more directed to Windows 7 than XP. ... I
still use XP Pro,
and the warnings on this list have convinced me to stay with JAWS 11,

even

though my SMA entitles me to JAWS 12."

The timing for this comment couldn't have been better in my case.

Although this is likely to change soon as my University switches
us all completely over to Windows 7, my desktop at work is still
an XP machine, and still has Jaws 11. The back-up PC I have at
home is an XP machine, and that too has Jaws 11.

So, is the collective wisdom of the group to keep things as they
are now on the XP machines, rather than installing Jaws 12 which
seems to be geared more to Windows 7?

If this is true, you guys have just saved me some head-aches with
my remaining XP computers, and I thank you sincerely for that.

I'll save my headaches for installing Jaws 12 on the new Windows 7
laptop the University will give me this week. (smile)

Tom in Michigan


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-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Dorothy
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 3:34 PM
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Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines

How interesting many have had problems using excell with jaws 12 and xp how
did you fix that? thanks dorothy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Londa Peterson" <lpeterson@tricountyblind.org>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 7:45 PM
Subject: RE: What to do about XP machines

I have used JAWS 11, 12 and 13 on a Windows XP pro machine with Office
2007.
I haven't really had any problems especially since I got my newer machine.
I did have the problem with Excel 2007, but I was able to fix that.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 2:05 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: What to do about XP machines

Any of you guys using Office 2007 or later with XP Pro? Please contact
me off list.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Robert Westfall
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 2:22 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: What to do about XP machines

Same here Jaws 12 latest build on an xp pro sp3 machine. All working
just
fine.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Pat Byrne
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 2:15 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines

Running JFW12 on an XP/SP3 machine with no difficulties.
Pat ByrneAt 11:38 AM 8/21/2011, you wrote:

Ok, Steve. ... Thanks for the response.

I'm going to play it cool for a while here and see what other feedback

I
get.

Actually, I think my time and energy this week will be spent getting
Jaws 12 up and running on the new Windows 7 laptop the University
will be giving me, so the XP thing can wait for a bit.

Tom in Michigan


----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve" <k8sp@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines

Tom,

While several people have reported issues, I've not had any and I
am running XP here with Jaws 12 Pro.

Steve,
Lansing, MI

----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: "Jaws users e-mail list" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:27 AM
Subject: What to do about XP machines

Hello, everyone.

In a recent post, I believe Adrian said the following:

"Many listers have reported flaws in JAWS 12,
possibly because it is more directed to Windows 7 than XP. ... I
still use XP Pro,
and the warnings on this list have convinced me to stay with JAWS 11,

even

though my SMA entitles me to JAWS 12."

The timing for this comment couldn't have been better in my case.

Although this is likely to change soon as my University switches
us all completely over to Windows 7, my desktop at work is still
an XP machine, and still has Jaws 11. The back-up PC I have at
home is an XP machine, and that too has Jaws 11.

So, is the collective wisdom of the group to keep things as they
are now on the XP machines, rather than installing Jaws 12 which
seems to be geared more to Windows 7?

If this is true, you guys have just saved me some head-aches with
my remaining XP computers, and I thank you sincerely for that.

I'll save my headaches for installing Jaws 12 on the new Windows 7
laptop the University will give me this week. (smile)

Tom in Michigan


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----- Original Message -----
From: "Londa Peterson" <lpeterson@tricountyblind.org>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 7:45 PM
Subject: RE: What to do about XP machines

I have used JAWS 11, 12 and 13 on a Windows XP pro machine with Office 2007.
I haven't really had any problems especially since I got my newer machine.
I did have the problem with Excel 2007, but I was able to fix that.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 2:05 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: What to do about XP machines

Any of you guys using Office 2007 or later with XP Pro? Please contact
me off list.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Robert Westfall
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 2:22 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: What to do about XP machines

Same here Jaws 12 latest build on an xp pro sp3 machine. All working
just
fine.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Pat Byrne
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 2:15 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines

Running JFW12 on an XP/SP3 machine with no difficulties.
Pat ByrneAt 11:38 AM 8/21/2011, you wrote:

Ok, Steve. ... Thanks for the response.

I'm going to play it cool for a while here and see what other feedback

I
get.

Actually, I think my time and energy this week will be spent getting
Jaws 12 up and running on the new Windows 7 laptop the University
will be giving me, so the XP thing can wait for a bit.

Tom in Michigan


----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve" <k8sp@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines

Tom,

While several people have reported issues, I've not had any and I
am running XP here with Jaws 12 Pro.

Steve,
Lansing, MI

----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: "Jaws users e-mail list" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:27 AM
Subject: What to do about XP machines

Hello, everyone.

In a recent post, I believe Adrian said the following:

"Many listers have reported flaws in JAWS 12,
possibly because it is more directed to Windows 7 than XP. ... I
still use XP Pro,
and the warnings on this list have convinced me to stay with JAWS 11,

even

though my SMA entitles me to JAWS 12."

The timing for this comment couldn't have been better in my case.

Although this is likely to change soon as my University switches
us all completely over to Windows 7, my desktop at work is still
an XP machine, and still has Jaws 11. The back-up PC I have at
home is an XP machine, and that too has Jaws 11.

So, is the collective wisdom of the group to keep things as they
are now on the XP machines, rather than installing Jaws 12 which
seems to be geared more to Windows 7?

If this is true, you guys have just saved me some head-aches with
my remaining XP computers, and I thank you sincerely for that.

I'll save my headaches for installing Jaws 12 on the new Windows 7
laptop the University will give me this week. (smile)

Tom in Michigan


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-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 2:05 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: What to do about XP machines

Any of you guys using Office 2007 or later with XP Pro? Please contact
me off list.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Robert Westfall
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 2:22 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: What to do about XP machines

Same here Jaws 12 latest build on an xp pro sp3 machine. All working
just
fine.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Pat Byrne
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 2:15 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines

Running JFW12 on an XP/SP3 machine with no difficulties.
Pat ByrneAt 11:38 AM 8/21/2011, you wrote:

Ok, Steve. ... Thanks for the response.

I'm going to play it cool for a while here and see what other feedback

I
get.

Actually, I think my time and energy this week will be spent getting
Jaws 12 up and running on the new Windows 7 laptop the University
will be giving me, so the XP thing can wait for a bit.

Tom in Michigan


----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve" <k8sp@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines

Tom,

While several people have reported issues, I've not had any and I
am running XP here with Jaws 12 Pro.

Steve,
Lansing, MI

----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: "Jaws users e-mail list" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:27 AM
Subject: What to do about XP machines

Hello, everyone.

In a recent post, I believe Adrian said the following:

"Many listers have reported flaws in JAWS 12,
possibly because it is more directed to Windows 7 than XP. ... I
still use XP Pro,
and the warnings on this list have convinced me to stay with JAWS 11,

even

though my SMA entitles me to JAWS 12."

The timing for this comment couldn't have been better in my case.

Although this is likely to change soon as my University switches
us all completely over to Windows 7, my desktop at work is still
an XP machine, and still has Jaws 11. The back-up PC I have at
home is an XP machine, and that too has Jaws 11.

So, is the collective wisdom of the group to keep things as they
are now on the XP machines, rather than installing Jaws 12 which
seems to be geared more to Windows 7?

If this is true, you guys have just saved me some head-aches with
my remaining XP computers, and I thank you sincerely for that.

I'll save my headaches for installing Jaws 12 on the new Windows 7
laptop the University will give me this week. (smile)

Tom in Michigan


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----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 11:04 AM
Subject: RE: What to do about XP machines

Any of you guys using Office 2007 or later with XP Pro? Please contact
me off list.
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Robert Westfall
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 2:22 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: What to do about XP machines
Same here Jaws 12 latest build on an xp pro sp3 machine. All working
just
fine.
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Pat Byrne
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 2:15 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines
Running JFW12 on an XP/SP3 machine with no difficulties.
Pat ByrneAt 11:38 AM 8/21/2011, you wrote:

Ok, Steve. ... Thanks for the response.

I'm going to play it cool for a while here and see what other feedback

I
get.

Actually, I think my time and energy this week will be spent getting Jaws 12 up and running on the new Windows 7 laptop the University will be giving me, so the XP thing can wait for a bit.

Tom in Michigan


----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve" <k8sp@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines

Tom,

While several people have reported issues, I've not had any and I am running XP here with Jaws 12 Pro.

Steve,
Lansing, MI

----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: "Jaws users e-mail list" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:27 AM
Subject: What to do about XP machines

Hello, everyone.

In a recent post, I believe Adrian said the following:

"Many listers have reported flaws in JAWS 12,
possibly because it is more directed to Windows 7 than XP. ... I still use XP Pro,
and the warnings on this list have convinced me to stay with JAWS 11,

even

though my SMA entitles me to JAWS 12."

The timing for this comment couldn't have been better in my case.

Although this is likely to change soon as my University switches us all completely over to Windows 7, my desktop at work is still an XP machine, and still has Jaws 11. The back-up PC I have at home is an XP machine, and that too has Jaws 11.

So, is the collective wisdom of the group to keep things as they are now on the XP machines, rather than installing Jaws 12 which seems to be geared more to Windows 7?

If this is true, you guys have just saved me some head-aches with my remaining XP computers, and I thank you sincerely for that.

I'll save my headaches for installing Jaws 12 on the new Windows 7 laptop the University will give me this week. (smile)

Tom in Michigan


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-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Robert Westfall
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 2:22 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: What to do about XP machines

Same here Jaws 12 latest build on an xp pro sp3 machine. All working
just
fine.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Pat Byrne
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 2:15 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines

Running JFW12 on an XP/SP3 machine with no difficulties.
Pat ByrneAt 11:38 AM 8/21/2011, you wrote:

Ok, Steve. ... Thanks for the response.

I'm going to play it cool for a while here and see what other feedback

I
get.

Actually, I think my time and energy this week will be spent getting
Jaws 12 up and running on the new Windows 7 laptop the University
will be giving me, so the XP thing can wait for a bit.

Tom in Michigan


----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve" <k8sp@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines

Tom,

While several people have reported issues, I've not had any and I
am running XP here with Jaws 12 Pro.

Steve,
Lansing, MI

----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: "Jaws users e-mail list" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:27 AM
Subject: What to do about XP machines

Hello, everyone.

In a recent post, I believe Adrian said the following:

"Many listers have reported flaws in JAWS 12,
possibly because it is more directed to Windows 7 than XP. ... I
still use XP Pro,
and the warnings on this list have convinced me to stay with JAWS 11,

even

though my SMA entitles me to JAWS 12."

The timing for this comment couldn't have been better in my case.

Although this is likely to change soon as my University switches
us all completely over to Windows 7, my desktop at work is still
an XP machine, and still has Jaws 11. The back-up PC I have at
home is an XP machine, and that too has Jaws 11.

So, is the collective wisdom of the group to keep things as they
are now on the XP machines, rather than installing Jaws 12 which
seems to be geared more to Windows 7?

If this is true, you guys have just saved me some head-aches with
my remaining XP computers, and I thank you sincerely for that.

I'll save my headaches for installing Jaws 12 on the new Windows 7
laptop the University will give me this week. (smile)

Tom in Michigan


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[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:28 AM
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: What to do about XP machines


Hello, everyone.

In a recent post, I believe Adrian said the following:

"Many listers have reported flaws in JAWS 12,
possibly because it is more directed to Windows 7 than XP. ... I still
use
XP Pro,
and the warnings on this list have convinced me to stay with JAWS 11,
even
though my SMA entitles me to JAWS 12."

The timing for this comment couldn't have been better in my case.

Although this is likely to change soon as my University switches us all
completely over to Windows 7, my desktop at work is still an XP machine,
and
still has Jaws 11. The back-up PC I have at home is an XP machine, and
that
too has Jaws 11.

So, is the collective wisdom of the group to keep things as they are now
on
the XP machines, rather than installing Jaws 12 which seems to be geared

more to Windows 7?

If this is true, you guys have just saved me some head-aches with my
remaining XP computers, and I thank you sincerely for that.

I'll save my headaches for installing Jaws 12 on the new Windows 7
laptop
the University will give me this week. (smile)

Tom in Michigan


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