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Holger Fiallo <holgerfiallo@...>
 

FYI. FS just release jaws 12.0.1170.
Holger Fiallo
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Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
 

Uh oh. *grin*
Any list of changes/fixes?
When I go to the FS site, I seem to only find the list of what's new in Jaws 12, not the latest patch.

Chris

At 10:53 AM 8/15/2011, you wrote:
FYI. FS just release jaws 12.0.1170.


Jacob
 

Enhancements in JAWS 12.0.1170 (August 2011)
The following is a list of items addressed or added between the final JAWS 12.0.1169 and the JAWS 12.0.1170 posting.

a.. Resolved an issue using JAWS in the iTunes Store after allowing the automatic update of QuickTime Player to version 7.7.
b.. Resolved an issue in Lotus Notes where JAWS was not identifying links in messages when navigating with the ARROW keys.
c.. Addressed a reported issue not reading check boxes contained in tables on certain Web pages.
d.. Resolved an issue encountered on some systems where JAWS would not start correctly.

OZ0TE Jacob
Skype-ID: Jacob-DK
From: Chris Smart
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 5:03 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: new jaws


Uh oh. *grin*
Any list of changes/fixes?
When I go to the FS site, I seem to only find the list of what's
new in Jaws 12, not the latest patch.

Chris

At 10:53 AM 8/15/2011, you wrote:
FYI. FS just release jaws 12.0.1170.

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Charles Coe
 

Hi,

Well this does not look like the Latest and Greatest! Guess I will skip over
this one.


charles

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On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 7:54 AM
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Subject: new jaws

FYI. FS just release jaws 12.0.1170.
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Holger Fiallo <holgerfiallo@...>
 

If you are going to use iTunes store you will need to do so. The store works well now.

-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Coe
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 10:34 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: new jaws

Hi,

Well this does not look like the Latest and Greatest! Guess I will skip over
this one.


charles

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FYI. FS just release jaws 12.0.1170.
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Crystal French
 

<sigh> Another one?
I don't see any fix for Jaws crashing again, and again, and again in XP.

May as well stand pat with Jaws 11.

We should have started a pool as to how many updates there would be to Jaws12.

Crystal


Mostafa Al'mahdy <mostafa.almahdy@...>
 

Unfortunately , that's the Freedom Scientific policy , they will never pay attention to you and I as a regular customers.
Best Wishs.
It's always hope that gives meaning to life.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Crystal French" <raincrow@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: new jaws


<sigh> Another one?
I don't see any fix for Jaws crashing again, and again, and again in XP.

May as well stand pat with Jaws 11.

We should have started a pool as to how many updates there would be to Jaws12.

Crystal

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Cristóbal
 

Just installed it and alas, JFW 12 continues to be mind numbingly sluggish.
Especially with Firefox and when trying to alt+tab through the application
windows. I'm still getting that annoying application mode stuff when
launchingFirefox as well.

Jaws 11 still feels a lot snappier despite it's crashing all the time.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Mostafa Al'mahdy
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:23 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: new jaws

Unfortunately , that's the Freedom Scientific policy , they will never pay
attention to you and I as a regular customers.
Best Wishs.
It's always hope that gives meaning to life.
_______________

----- Original Message -----
From: "Crystal French" <raincrow@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: new jaws


<sigh> Another one?
I don't see any fix for Jaws crashing again, and again, and again in XP.

May as well stand pat with Jaws 11.

We should have started a pool as to how many updates there would be to
Jaws12.

Crystal

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Holger Fiallo <holgerfiallo@...>
 

have no issues using IE 9

-----Original Message-----
From: CrisMunoz54 Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:34 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: new jaws

Just installed it and alas, JFW 12 continues to be mind numbingly sluggish.
Especially with Firefox and when trying to alt+tab through the application
windows. I'm still getting that annoying application mode stuff when
launchingFirefox as well.

Jaws 11 still feels a lot snappier despite it's crashing all the time.
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Mostafa Al'mahdy
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:23 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: new jaws

Unfortunately , that's the Freedom Scientific policy , they will never pay attention to you and I as a regular customers.
Best Wishs.
It's always hope that gives meaning to life.
_______________

----- Original Message -----
From: "Crystal French" <raincrow@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: new jaws


<sigh> Another one?
I don't see any fix for Jaws crashing again, and again, and again in XP.

May as well stand pat with Jaws 11.

We should have started a pool as to how many updates there would be to Jaws12.

Crystal

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Adi Kushnir <adikushnir@...>
 

I don't know what you are talking about.
JAWS 12 is very good with WinXP, NO crashes and slow responces.
Have you braked something with the video intersept?
This is when JAWS crashes eaven on Win7 if you have a driver meerror problem
and you fix it manually.

Adi.

-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 7:47 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: new jaws

have no issues using IE 9

-----Original Message-----
From: CrisMunoz54
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:34 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: new jaws

Just installed it and alas, JFW 12 continues to be mind numbingly sluggish.
Especially with Firefox and when trying to alt+tab through the application
windows. I'm still getting that annoying application mode stuff when
launchingFirefox as well.

Jaws 11 still feels a lot snappier despite it's crashing all the time.
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Mostafa Al'mahdy
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:23 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: new jaws

Unfortunately , that's the Freedom Scientific policy , they will never pay
attention to you and I as a regular customers.
Best Wishs.
It's always hope that gives meaning to life.
_______________

----- Original Message -----
From: "Crystal French" <raincrow@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: new jaws


<sigh> Another one?
I don't see any fix for Jaws crashing again, and again, and again in XP.

May as well stand pat with Jaws 11.

We should have started a pool as to how many updates there would be to
Jaws12.

Crystal

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Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
 

Cris, how old is your machine?

Ever since build 1169 i've found 12 to be just as snappy and responsive as 11, and no problems with Firefox 5.


Cristóbal
 

It's a 5 year old xp pro machine, but age is irrelevant as JFW 11 runs much
faster on the same exact machine. Others on these lists have also mentioned
marked sluggishness in regards to JFW 12 too.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 10:32 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: new jaws

Cris, how old is your machine?

Ever since build 1169 i've found 12 to be just as snappy and
responsive as 11, and no problems with Firefox 5.


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Dave...
 

Adi,

Please elucidate. What do you mean with "fix it manually"?

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my comfort
to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll
try to remedy that situation.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Adi Kushnir" <adikushnir@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 10:16
Subject: RE: new jaws


I don't know what you are talking about.
JAWS 12 is very good with WinXP, NO crashes and slow responces.
Have you braked something with the video intersept?
This is when JAWS crashes eaven on Win7 if you have a driver meerror problem
and you fix it manually.

Adi.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 7:47 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: new jaws

have no issues using IE 9

-----Original Message-----
From: CrisMunoz54
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:34 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: new jaws

Just installed it and alas, JFW 12 continues to be mind numbingly sluggish.
Especially with Firefox and when trying to alt+tab through the application
windows. I'm still getting that annoying application mode stuff when
launchingFirefox as well.

Jaws 11 still feels a lot snappier despite it's crashing all the time.
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Mostafa Al'mahdy
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:23 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: new jaws

Unfortunately , that's the Freedom Scientific policy , they will never pay
attention to you and I as a regular customers.
Best Wishs.
It's always hope that gives meaning to life.
_______________

----- Original Message -----
From: "Crystal French" <raincrow@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: new jaws


<sigh> Another one?
I don't see any fix for Jaws crashing again, and again, and again in XP.

May as well stand pat with Jaws 11.

We should have started a pool as to how many updates there would be to
Jaws12.

Crystal

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Nickus de Vos <bigboy529@...>
 

That's what I like about Apple. They are the largest/richest company
in the world, voiceover their built in screen reader is by no means
their priority but still they treet every customer, voiceover user or
not as their only customer and they will always answer a question even
if they don't have a solution to the problem they will try to help.
They also take bug reports from their voiceover users very seriously
even though blind/voiceover users are just a single drop in their
ocian of customers worldwide.

On 8/15/11, Mostafa Al'mahdy <mostafa.almahdy@...> wrote:
Unfortunately , that's the Freedom Scientific policy , they will never pay
attention to you and I as a regular customers.
Best Wishs.
It's always hope that gives meaning to life.
_______________

----- Original Message -----
From: "Crystal French" <raincrow@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: new jaws


<sigh> Another one?
I don't see any fix for Jaws crashing again, and again, and again in XP.

May as well stand pat with Jaws 11.

We should have started a pool as to how many updates there would be to
Jaws12.

Crystal

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Mostafa Al'mahdy <mostafa.almahdy@...>
 

Therefore , I' am migrating to them , pretty soon.



Best Wishs.
It's always hope that gives meaning to life.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Nickus de Vos" <bigboy529@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:17 PM
Subject: Re: new jaws


That's what I like about Apple. They are the largest/richest company
in the world, voiceover their built in screen reader is by no means
their priority but still they treet every customer, voiceover user or
not as their only customer and they will always answer a question even
if they don't have a solution to the problem they will try to help.
They also take bug reports from their voiceover users very seriously
even though blind/voiceover users are just a single drop in their
ocian of customers worldwide.

On 8/15/11, Mostafa Al'mahdy <mostafa.almahdy@...> wrote:
Unfortunately , that's the Freedom Scientific policy , they will never pay
attention to you and I as a regular customers.
Best Wishs.
It's always hope that gives meaning to life.
_______________

----- Original Message -----
From: "Crystal French" <raincrow@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: new jaws


<sigh> Another one?
I don't see any fix for Jaws crashing again, and again, and again in XP.

May as well stand pat with Jaws 11.

We should have started a pool as to how many updates there would be to
Jaws12.

Crystal

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Nickus de Vos <bigboy529@...>
 

Don't expect a smooth ride in some cases jaws is still better than
voiceover and as I said voiceover isn't a top priority for apple but
voiceover is catching up to jaws at a hell of a fast rate. Luckally
there's a lot of voiceover support like the macvisionaries google
group and a lot of podcasts to get you going.

On 8/15/11, Mostafa Al'mahdy <mostafa.almahdy@...> wrote:
Therefore , I' am migrating to them , pretty soon.



Best Wishs.
It's always hope that gives meaning to life.
_______________

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nickus de Vos" <bigboy529@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:17 PM
Subject: Re: new jaws


That's what I like about Apple. They are the largest/richest company
in the world, voiceover their built in screen reader is by no means
their priority but still they treet every customer, voiceover user or
not as their only customer and they will always answer a question even
if they don't have a solution to the problem they will try to help.
They also take bug reports from their voiceover users very seriously
even though blind/voiceover users are just a single drop in their
ocian of customers worldwide.

On 8/15/11, Mostafa Al'mahdy <mostafa.almahdy@...> wrote:
Unfortunately , that's the Freedom Scientific policy , they will never
pay
attention to you and I as a regular customers.
Best Wishs.
It's always hope that gives meaning to life.
_______________

----- Original Message -----
From: "Crystal French" <raincrow@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: new jaws


<sigh> Another one?
I don't see any fix for Jaws crashing again, and again, and again in XP.

May as well stand pat with Jaws 11.

We should have started a pool as to how many updates there would be to
Jaws12.

Crystal

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Gerald Levy
 

If you're such of big fan of Apple, why are you posting on this list?

Gerald

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nickus de Vos" <bigboy529@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: new jaws


That's what I like about Apple. They are the largest/richest company
in the world, voiceover their built in screen reader is by no means
their priority but still they treet every customer, voiceover user or
not as their only customer and they will always answer a question even
if they don't have a solution to the problem they will try to help.
They also take bug reports from their voiceover users very seriously
even though blind/voiceover users are just a single drop in their
ocian of customers worldwide.

On 8/15/11, Mostafa Al'mahdy <mostafa.almahdy@...> wrote:
Unfortunately , that's the Freedom Scientific policy , they will never pay
attention to you and I as a regular customers.
Best Wishs.
It's always hope that gives meaning to life.
_______________

----- Original Message -----
From: "Crystal French" <raincrow@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: new jaws


<sigh> Another one?
I don't see any fix for Jaws crashing again, and again, and again in XP.

May as well stand pat with Jaws 11.

We should have started a pool as to how many updates there would be to
Jaws12.

Crystal

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Howard <hwolcott@...>
 

hi gerald:
thanks.
I was wondering the same thing.


howard wolcott

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited@...>
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 4:02 PM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Subject: Re: new jaws


If you're such of big fan of Apple, why are you posting on this list?

Gerald


----- Original Message -----
From: "Nickus de Vos" <bigboy529@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: new jaws


That's what I like about Apple. They are the largest/richest company
in the world, voiceover their built in screen reader is by no means
their priority but still they treet every customer, voiceover user or
not as their only customer and they will always answer a question even
if they don't have a solution to the problem they will try to help.
They also take bug reports from their voiceover users very seriously
even though blind/voiceover users are just a single drop in their
ocian of customers worldwide.

On 8/15/11, Mostafa Al'mahdy <mostafa.almahdy@...> wrote:
Unfortunately , that's the Freedom Scientific policy , they will never pay
attention to you and I as a regular customers.
Best Wishs.
It's always hope that gives meaning to life.
_______________

----- Original Message -----
From: "Crystal French" <raincrow@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: new jaws


<sigh> Another one?
I don't see any fix for Jaws crashing again, and again, and again in XP.

May as well stand pat with Jaws 11.

We should have started a pool as to how many updates there would be to
Jaws12.

Crystal

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Alex Stone <alex.stone@...>
 

How many copies of this do we need? I've had at least three so far.
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Jacob
Sent: 15 August 2011 16:16
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: new jaws

Enhancements in JAWS 12.0.1170 (August 2011) The following is a list of
items addressed or added between the final JAWS 12.0.1169 and the JAWS
12.0.1170 posting.

a.. Resolved an issue using JAWS in the iTunes Store after allowing the
automatic update of QuickTime Player to version 7.7.
b.. Resolved an issue in Lotus Notes where JAWS was not identifying links
in messages when navigating with the ARROW keys.
c.. Addressed a reported issue not reading check boxes contained in tables
on certain Web pages.
d.. Resolved an issue encountered on some systems where JAWS would not
start correctly.

OZ0TE Jacob
Skype-ID: Jacob-DK
From: Chris Smart
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 5:03 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: new jaws


Uh oh. *grin*
Any list of changes/fixes?
When I go to the FS site, I seem to only find the list of what's
new in Jaws 12, not the latest patch.

Chris

At 10:53 AM 8/15/2011, you wrote:
FYI. FS just release jaws 12.0.1170.

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