Fw: researchIt and Job-Access-With-Speech (JAWS)


Hello Eric,

I received this announcement from you on our list, shared by one of our
subscribers. I wonder why you didn't post a similar message on our list?

Also my inputs do not lean in the direction that you are suggesting in your
message. I for one would much rather FS focus on getting JAWS more stable
with critical applications than to further do repairs on ResearchIt
capability to harvest sports scores.

I have written to FS Support on a number of occasions on bugs that have
cropped up in various versions of JAWS, most notably in JAWS 12 where the
update after 12.0.525 caused Excel 2007 to crash. I reported this and the
"fix" did not work at all. I've continued to stick with 12.0.525 as a result
so I can get my work done.

Further I've pointed out that the implementation of the virtual ribbon in
Excel, Word, and Outlook is flawed and inconsistent w/r the QAT. In Excel
the QAT works differently in virtual ribbon mode than with Outlook and Word.
Moreover a few key Excel JAWS shortcuts were removed (intentionally?
accidentally?) from the .JKM file in version 12 so that I could no longer
read the top 4 column cells. Those keystrokes were given over to the QAT, I
believed. I had to copy the script functions from a JAWS 11 .JSS filed and
paste into the JAWS 12 file and recompile, and then reassign the
Ctrl+Shift+1, 2, 3, and 4 keys.

That type of work should not have been necessary for the end user to do.

I am so imbued with the strength of using the QAT that I keep the virtual
ribbon turned off now. I continue to improve on using the ribbon and only
turn on VR when I just can't find a function. Then it's off again.

I think FS needs to take a long look with a wide perspective, on the Office
applications, the QAT, and the VR to come up with a consistent approach to
having them all work together, and all work the same.

Thanks for listening.

Dave Carlson
Composed on a Dell Latitude 630 in the general vicinity of my Audio
Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area.

----- Original Message -----
From: jaws-users-list-bounces@...
[mailto:jaws-users-list-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Eric Damery
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 1:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@...
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS updated, regarding the MLB problems in
Research It

Greetings all,

Nobody is more disappointed to have lost the MLB option in Research It more
than I am. Especially when you consider the tight race in the American
League East where my Sox are doing battle once again with the Yanks and the
Rays. Anyway, here is the scoop on what has happened.
About a week or 10 days ago, ESPN made modifications to how they expose
sports results in an effort to block many different products that had been
tapping into ESPN to get the info in real time and display it. We believe
this was done in an effort to get more organizations to purchase access to
the data and prevent anyone from getting it otherwise. This will not only
impact MLB on Research It, but all of the sports.

We have been investigating the MLB site itself and many other places like
YAHOO but so far, have not found any site that exposes the information away
that will work. We are also reaching out to ESPN and trying to explain who
we are and what we are doing in order to see if we can get them to work with
us. If any of you who use Research It to get access to daily scores would be
willing, please write to them at:

Please be polite and remember, they are not targeting JAWS and Research It
when they make these changes. It would be helpful to explain to them how
beneficial it has been to use Research It in order to get the scores and
schedules without having to weed through all the extra information presented
on very busy web pages. I'm sure that together, we can all work this out and
FS will get this fixed and working again as quickly as possible.

Eric Damery

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Mike Mote
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 10:02 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: research isn't clicking the full forecast link in weather.

Ken, I talked with someone from FS about the MLB scores feature not working,
and they told me that ESPN was going to charge them to continue using them,
so they are now looking for someone else. They say they're working on
fixing the problem, but the scores feature hasn't worked in a month now.
Doesn't appear they're in a big hurry.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 11:50 AM
Subject: research isn't clicking the full forecast link in weather.

Hi list, for the last few days I can’t get research it to click the full
forecast link in weather. also am not getting to read MLB scores. it
says clearly type using the Date in a dd/mm/yyy format but it is saying
research it found now results. Now that newsline is using the ticker on
the AP feed it’s easier to use research it. any ideas?
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