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Adi Kushnir <adikushnir@...> #403 Hi, No trubble at all! toggle quoted message Show quoted text -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Roy Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 5:43 PM To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer; The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: update for Jaws12 Hello,Friends: Jaws12 is now out with a new update. Has anyone on this list installed it on her/his computer yet? If so are you having any trouble with the update? Thanks, Roy Dubriel Please reply. "If you are different from me,brother/sister,it's not wrong,on the contrary you enrich me." Antoinede Saint-Exupéry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...> To: "inthane" <inthaneelf@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 8:16 AM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Sorry, I thought the list would have some experts to suggest possible solutions. I found that submitting comments to Mozilla's support also requires visual confirmation/verification, so that wouldn't help things. Is there another blind-friendly list to discuss this with that won't take verification to log in or post comments? Webvisum is very busy and slow to respond. Thanks anyone. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: "inthane" <inthaneelf@...> To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 12:13 AM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost why the frack aren't you pummeling Firefox with this instead of weeping about it here, that's my freaking plan, gods what a bunch of whips elf . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...> To: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 10:11 AM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost That's a shame!!! Now what shall we do with websites that require verifying yourself to sign in or submit a comment, to verify you're a real human and not a robot? Pity the independent blind users who can't find somebody to help fill in the box or solve the captchas, or don't want to be a nuisance to people who are too busy to jump up and come to their aid! Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@...> To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 1:50 PM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Hi list sorry to report this but, we may not ever have it back. webvisum was disabled the other day when Firefox 5 was installed. it seems mozilla has decided that they will now release new versions of firefox every two months. the word on the NFB graphic user interface list is that webvisum will likely give up trying to update it since there is likely no way for them to ever keep up with this new timetable. Thank you mozilla for caring so much to protect the internet from us dangerous blind hackers/spammers. I wouldn't get my hopes up for a screen reader to have it built in since if they can do that, the real spammers would be able to do it to so that would defeat the whole need for capcha. -----Original Message----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:50 PM To: jfw@... Subject: Fw: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Now that the list is back online, here are some of the latest developments in my attempts to recover the use of Webvisum. Thanks. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: inthane To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 3:35 PM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost that one you would have to take to a group, I'd ask it on both the blind geek zone and/or the list provided by web visum I'm having some odd difficulties with my current system and can't get web visum to run correctly here on my main, but it loaded and ran fine on my secondary and tertiary computers, so I don't have a good answer for you! sorry, inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: inthane Cc: webvisum-discuss@... Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 7:55 AM Subject: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Webvisum sent me a new password; I logged in with the new password and tried once again to install the plugin, but still I can't get it to work--I get the "unavailable" message following the "install button" prompt. Is there an issue with my system or browser security settings, or do I actually need an invitation code in addition to the password? Do I need to upgrade Firefox to use this copy of the plugin? Thanks. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: inthane To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:48 PM Subject: Re: Webvisum plugin lost there is a spot, pardon a link where you can fill out a "request" and get an invitation to web visum, if you remember your address and sign in password (the same ones you input into web visum so it could automatically sign in) you can go and download it again, I would use revo uninstaller to pull out the old web visum, and then reinstall a new copy. or at worst case, contact me again and I will get you an invite since I remember both my sign in and my password inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: inthane ; Adrian Spratt ; Gerald Levy ; Negoslav Sabev Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:53 AM Subject: Fw: Webvisum plugin lost Good morning. I'm sending this to you individuals because the JFW list seems to be down right now. Yesterday I sent this to the Webvisum Discuss listserv and subscribed to their mailing list, but I suspect they may be very slow to respond. If I don't hear from them in a week or so, what do I do with Web sites that require verification? I could try Solona but not sure if that works with Firefox, or if it can handle captchas and images as efficiently as Webvisum. Thanks for your feedback. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: webvisum-discuss@... Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 4:37 PM Subject: Webvisum plugin lost Hi all. Recently I've been reading some posts regarding updating to the latest version of Firefox, and that Webvisum hadn't released an update for that version. For some time I've been able to use it on my current version of Firefox 3.6. Someone suggested I download a portable version of Firefox 5 to see how it worked and whether or not Webvisum worked with it. Another post explained a work around for accessing Webvisum with Firefox 5.0, by going to the install.rdf file and changing the max number from 4 to 5. I did this and saved the change, then downloaded the portable Firefox 5, but this created an error message in Firefox 3 saying the file wasn't well-formed or something. Webvisum not only didn't work on the portable Firefox, but now it no longer works on Firefox version 3, and I also deleted the install file for Webvisum and the plugin is no longer there. Can you suggest a way to get a new plugin for Webvisum to download again to Firefox 3? I'm already logged in, but can't find a link to download the plugin. I erroneously sent a request for an invitation but discovered that's not necessary if I know my username and password. Thanks for your assistance. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Roy <ydubriel@...> #399 Hello,Friends: Jaws12 is now out with a new update. Has anyone on this list installed it on her/his computer yet? If so are you having any trouble with the update? Thanks, Roy Dubriel Please reply. "If you are different from me,brother/sister,it's not wrong,on the contrary you enrich me." Antoinede Saint-Exupéry toggle quoted message Show quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...> To: "inthane" <inthaneelf@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 8:16 AM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Sorry, I thought the list would have some experts to suggest possible solutions. I found that submitting comments to Mozilla's support also requires visual confirmation/verification, so that wouldn't help things. Is there another blind-friendly list to discuss this with that won't take verification to log in or post comments? Webvisum is very busy and slow to respond. Thanks anyone. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: "inthane" <inthaneelf@...> To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 12:13 AM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost why the frack aren't you pummeling Firefox with this instead of weeping about it here, that's my freaking plan, gods what a bunch of whips elf . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...> To: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 10:11 AM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost That's a shame!!! Now what shall we do with websites that require verifying yourself to sign in or submit a comment, to verify you're a real human and not a robot? Pity the independent blind users who can't find somebody to help fill in the box or solve the captchas, or don't want to be a nuisance to people who are too busy to jump up and come to their aid! Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@...> To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 1:50 PM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Hi list sorry to report this but, we may not ever have it back. webvisum was disabled the other day when Firefox 5 was installed. it seems mozilla has decided that they will now release new versions of firefox every two months. the word on the NFB graphic user interface list is that webvisum will likely give up trying to update it since there is likely no way for them to ever keep up with this new timetable. Thank you mozilla for caring so much to protect the internet from us dangerous blind hackers/spammers. I wouldn't get my hopes up for a screen reader to have it built in since if they can do that, the real spammers would be able to do it to so that would defeat the whole need for capcha. -----Original Message----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:50 PM To: jfw@... Subject: Fw: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Now that the list is back online, here are some of the latest developments in my attempts to recover the use of Webvisum. Thanks. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: inthane To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 3:35 PM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost that one you would have to take to a group, I'd ask it on both the blind geek zone and/or the list provided by web visum I'm having some odd difficulties with my current system and can't get web visum to run correctly here on my main, but it loaded and ran fine on my secondary and tertiary computers, so I don't have a good answer for you! sorry, inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: inthane Cc: webvisum-discuss@... Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 7:55 AM Subject: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Webvisum sent me a new password; I logged in with the new password and tried once again to install the plugin, but still I can't get it to work--I get the "unavailable" message following the "install button" prompt. Is there an issue with my system or browser security settings, or do I actually need an invitation code in addition to the password? Do I need to upgrade Firefox to use this copy of the plugin? Thanks. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: inthane To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:48 PM Subject: Re: Webvisum plugin lost there is a spot, pardon a link where you can fill out a "request" and get an invitation to web visum, if you remember your address and sign in password (the same ones you input into web visum so it could automatically sign in) you can go and download it again, I would use revo uninstaller to pull out the old web visum, and then reinstall a new copy. or at worst case, contact me again and I will get you an invite since I remember both my sign in and my password inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: inthane ; Adrian Spratt ; Gerald Levy ; Negoslav Sabev Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:53 AM Subject: Fw: Webvisum plugin lost Good morning. I'm sending this to you individuals because the JFW list seems to be down right now. Yesterday I sent this to the Webvisum Discuss listserv and subscribed to their mailing list, but I suspect they may be very slow to respond. If I don't hear from them in a week or so, what do I do with Web sites that require verification? I could try Solona but not sure if that works with Firefox, or if it can handle captchas and images as efficiently as Webvisum. Thanks for your feedback. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: webvisum-discuss@... Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 4:37 PM Subject: Webvisum plugin lost Hi all. Recently I've been reading some posts regarding updating to the latest version of Firefox, and that Webvisum hadn't released an update for that version. For some time I've been able to use it on my current version of Firefox 3.6. Someone suggested I download a portable version of Firefox 5 to see how it worked and whether or not Webvisum worked with it. Another post explained a work around for accessing Webvisum with Firefox 5.0, by going to the install.rdf file and changing the max number from 4 to 5. I did this and saved the change, then downloaded the portable Firefox 5, but this created an error message in Firefox 3 saying the file wasn't well-formed or something. Webvisum not only didn't work on the portable Firefox, but now it no longer works on Firefox version 3, and I also deleted the install file for Webvisum and the plugin is no longer there. Can you suggest a way to get a new plugin for Webvisum to download again to Firefox 3? I'm already logged in, but can't find a link to download the plugin. I erroneously sent a request for an invitation but discovered that's not necessary if I know my username and password. Thanks for your assistance. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Cy Selfridge #407 Which update number are you talking about? Cy toggle quoted message Show quoted text -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Adi Kushnir Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 8:05 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: update for Jaws12 Hi, No trubble at all! -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Roy Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 5:43 PM To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer; The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: update for Jaws12 Hello,Friends: Jaws12 is now out with a new update. Has anyone on this list installed it on her/his computer yet? If so are you having any trouble with the update? Thanks, Roy Dubriel Please reply. "If you are different from me,brother/sister,it's not wrong,on the contrary you enrich me." Antoinede Saint-Exupéry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...> To: "inthane" <inthaneelf@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 8:16 AM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Sorry, I thought the list would have some experts to suggest possible solutions. I found that submitting comments to Mozilla's support also requires visual confirmation/verification, so that wouldn't help things. Is there another blind-friendly list to discuss this with that won't take verification to log in or post comments? Webvisum is very busy and slow to respond. Thanks anyone. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: "inthane" <inthaneelf@...> To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 12:13 AM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost why the frack aren't you pummeling Firefox with this instead of weeping about it here, that's my freaking plan, gods what a bunch of whips elf . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...> To: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 10:11 AM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost That's a shame!!! Now what shall we do with websites that require verifying yourself to sign in or submit a comment, to verify you're a real human and not a robot? Pity the independent blind users who can't find somebody to help fill in the box or solve the captchas, or don't want to be a nuisance to people who are too busy to jump up and come to their aid! Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@...> To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 1:50 PM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Hi list sorry to report this but, we may not ever have it back. webvisum was disabled the other day when Firefox 5 was installed. it seems mozilla has decided that they will now release new versions of firefox every two months. the word on the NFB graphic user interface list is that webvisum will likely give up trying to update it since there is likely no way for them to ever keep up with this new timetable. Thank you mozilla for caring so much to protect the internet from us dangerous blind hackers/spammers. I wouldn't get my hopes up for a screen reader to have it built in since if they can do that, the real spammers would be able to do it to so that would defeat the whole need for capcha. -----Original Message----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:50 PM To: jfw@... Subject: Fw: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Now that the list is back online, here are some of the latest developments in my attempts to recover the use of Webvisum. Thanks. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: inthane To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 3:35 PM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost that one you would have to take to a group, I'd ask it on both the blind geek zone and/or the list provided by web visum I'm having some odd difficulties with my current system and can't get web visum to run correctly here on my main, but it loaded and ran fine on my secondary and tertiary computers, so I don't have a good answer for you! sorry, inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: inthane Cc: webvisum-discuss@... Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 7:55 AM Subject: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Webvisum sent me a new password; I logged in with the new password and tried once again to install the plugin, but still I can't get it to work--I get the "unavailable" message following the "install button" prompt. Is there an issue with my system or browser security settings, or do I actually need an invitation code in addition to the password? Do I need to upgrade Firefox to use this copy of the plugin? Thanks. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: inthane To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:48 PM Subject: Re: Webvisum plugin lost there is a spot, pardon a link where you can fill out a "request" and get an invitation to web visum, if you remember your address and sign in password (the same ones you input into web visum so it could automatically sign in) you can go and download it again, I would use revo uninstaller to pull out the old web visum, and then reinstall a new copy. or at worst case, contact me again and I will get you an invite since I remember both my sign in and my password inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: inthane ; Adrian Spratt ; Gerald Levy ; Negoslav Sabev Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:53 AM Subject: Fw: Webvisum plugin lost Good morning. I'm sending this to you individuals because the JFW list seems to be down right now. Yesterday I sent this to the Webvisum Discuss listserv and subscribed to their mailing list, but I suspect they may be very slow to respond. If I don't hear from them in a week or so, what do I do with Web sites that require verification? I could try Solona but not sure if that works with Firefox, or if it can handle captchas and images as efficiently as Webvisum. Thanks for your feedback. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: webvisum-discuss@... Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 4:37 PM Subject: Webvisum plugin lost Hi all. Recently I've been reading some posts regarding updating to the latest version of Firefox, and that Webvisum hadn't released an update for that version. For some time I've been able to use it on my current version of Firefox 3.6. Someone suggested I download a portable version of Firefox 5 to see how it worked and whether or not Webvisum worked with it. Another post explained a work around for accessing Webvisum with Firefox 5.0, by going to the install.rdf file and changing the max number from 4 to 5. I did this and saved the change, then downloaded the portable Firefox 5, but this created an error message in Firefox 3 saying the file wasn't well-formed or something. Webvisum not only didn't work on the portable Firefox, but now it no longer works on Firefox version 3, and I also deleted the install file for Webvisum and the plugin is no longer there. Can you suggest a way to get a new plugin for Webvisum to download again to Firefox 3? I'm already logged in, but can't find a link to download the plugin. I erroneously sent a request for an invitation but discovered that's not necessary if I know my username and password. Thanks for your assistance. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Dorothy <dorothy.ingram-gorban@...> #410 Yes have installed it and did not see any difference to be honest. No shouts of joy from list! toggle quoted message Show quoted text -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Roy Sent: 02 July 2011 15:43 To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer; The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: update for Jaws12 Hello,Friends: Jaws12 is now out with a new update. Has anyone on this list installed it on her/his computer yet? If so are you having any trouble with the update? Thanks, Roy Dubriel Please reply. "If you are different from me,brother/sister,it's not wrong,on the contrary you enrich me." Antoinede Saint-Exupéry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...> To: "inthane" <inthaneelf@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 8:16 AM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Sorry, I thought the list would have some experts to suggest possible solutions. I found that submitting comments to Mozilla's support also requires visual confirmation/verification, so that wouldn't help things. Is there another blind-friendly list to discuss this with that won't take verification to log in or post comments? Webvisum is very busy and slow to respond. Thanks anyone. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: "inthane" <inthaneelf@...> To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 12:13 AM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost why the frack aren't you pummeling Firefox with this instead of weeping about it here, that's my freaking plan, gods what a bunch of whips elf . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...> To: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 10:11 AM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost That's a shame!!! Now what shall we do with websites that require verifying yourself to sign in or submit a comment, to verify you're a real human and not a robot? Pity the independent blind users who can't find somebody to help fill in the box or solve the captchas, or don't want to be a nuisance to people who are too busy to jump up and come to their aid! Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@...> To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 1:50 PM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Hi list sorry to report this but, we may not ever have it back. webvisum was disabled the other day when Firefox 5 was installed. it seems mozilla has decided that they will now release new versions of firefox every two months. the word on the NFB graphic user interface list is that webvisum will likely give up trying to update it since there is likely no way for them to ever keep up with this new timetable. Thank you mozilla for caring so much to protect the internet from us dangerous blind hackers/spammers. I wouldn't get my hopes up for a screen reader to have it built in since if they can do that, the real spammers would be able to do it to so that would defeat the whole need for capcha. -----Original Message----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:50 PM To: jfw@... Subject: Fw: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Now that the list is back online, here are some of the latest developments in my attempts to recover the use of Webvisum. Thanks. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: inthane To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 3:35 PM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost that one you would have to take to a group, I'd ask it on both the blind geek zone and/or the list provided by web visum I'm having some odd difficulties with my current system and can't get web visum to run correctly here on my main, but it loaded and ran fine on my secondary and tertiary computers, so I don't have a good answer for you! sorry, inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: inthane Cc: webvisum-discuss@... Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 7:55 AM Subject: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Webvisum sent me a new password; I logged in with the new password and tried once again to install the plugin, but still I can't get it to work--I get the "unavailable" message following the "install button" prompt. Is there an issue with my system or browser security settings, or do I actually need an invitation code in addition to the password? Do I need to upgrade Firefox to use this copy of the plugin? Thanks. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: inthane To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:48 PM Subject: Re: Webvisum plugin lost there is a spot, pardon a link where you can fill out a "request" and get an invitation to web visum, if you remember your address and sign in password (the same ones you input into web visum so it could automatically sign in) you can go and download it again, I would use revo uninstaller to pull out the old web visum, and then reinstall a new copy. or at worst case, contact me again and I will get you an invite since I remember both my sign in and my password inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: inthane ; Adrian Spratt ; Gerald Levy ; Negoslav Sabev Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:53 AM Subject: Fw: Webvisum plugin lost Good morning. I'm sending this to you individuals because the JFW list seems to be down right now. Yesterday I sent this to the Webvisum Discuss listserv and subscribed to their mailing list, but I suspect they may be very slow to respond. If I don't hear from them in a week or so, what do I do with Web sites that require verification? I could try Solona but not sure if that works with Firefox, or if it can handle captchas and images as efficiently as Webvisum. Thanks for your feedback. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: webvisum-discuss@... Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 4:37 PM Subject: Webvisum plugin lost Hi all. Recently I've been reading some posts regarding updating to the latest version of Firefox, and that Webvisum hadn't released an update for that version. For some time I've been able to use it on my current version of Firefox 3.6. Someone suggested I download a portable version of Firefox 5 to see how it worked and whether or not Webvisum worked with it. Another post explained a work around for accessing Webvisum with Firefox 5.0, by going to the install.rdf file and changing the max number from 4 to 5. I did this and saved the change, then downloaded the portable Firefox 5, but this created an error message in Firefox 3 saying the file wasn't well-formed or something. Webvisum not only didn't work on the portable Firefox, but now it no longer works on Firefox version 3, and I also deleted the install file for Webvisum and the plugin is no longer there. Can you suggest a way to get a new plugin for Webvisum to download again to Firefox 3? I'm already logged in, but can't find a link to download the plugin. I erroneously sent a request for an invitation but discovered that's not necessary if I know my username and password. Thanks for your assistance. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Marie Lyons <mlyons53@...> #414 I, too installed the latest jaws release. I haven't had trouble with it. Marie toggle quoted message Show quoted text -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Dorothy Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 1:02 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: update for Jaws12 Yes have installed it and did not see any difference to be honest. No shouts of joy from list! -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Roy Sent: 02 July 2011 15:43 To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer; The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: update for Jaws12 Hello,Friends: Jaws12 is now out with a new update. Has anyone on this list installed it on her/his computer yet? If so are you having any trouble with the update? Thanks, Roy Dubriel Please reply. "If you are different from me,brother/sister,it's not wrong,on the contrary you enrich me." Antoinede Saint-Exupéry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...> To: "inthane" <inthaneelf@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 8:16 AM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Sorry, I thought the list would have some experts to suggest possible solutions. I found that submitting comments to Mozilla's support also requires visual confirmation/verification, so that wouldn't help things. Is there another blind-friendly list to discuss this with that won't take verification to log in or post comments? Webvisum is very busy and slow to respond. Thanks anyone. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: "inthane" <inthaneelf@...> To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 12:13 AM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost why the frack aren't you pummeling Firefox with this instead of weeping about it here, that's my freaking plan, gods what a bunch of whips elf . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...> To: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 10:11 AM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost That's a shame!!! Now what shall we do with websites that require verifying yourself to sign in or submit a comment, to verify you're a real human and not a robot? Pity the independent blind users who can't find somebody to help fill in the box or solve the captchas, or don't want to be a nuisance to people who are too busy to jump up and come to their aid! Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@...> To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 1:50 PM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Hi list sorry to report this but, we may not ever have it back. webvisum was disabled the other day when Firefox 5 was installed. it seems mozilla has decided that they will now release new versions of firefox every two months. the word on the NFB graphic user interface list is that webvisum will likely give up trying to update it since there is likely no way for them to ever keep up with this new timetable. Thank you mozilla for caring so much to protect the internet from us dangerous blind hackers/spammers. I wouldn't get my hopes up for a screen reader to have it built in since if they can do that, the real spammers would be able to do it to so that would defeat the whole need for capcha. -----Original Message----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:50 PM To: jfw@... Subject: Fw: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Now that the list is back online, here are some of the latest developments in my attempts to recover the use of Webvisum. Thanks. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: inthane To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 3:35 PM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost that one you would have to take to a group, I'd ask it on both the blind geek zone and/or the list provided by web visum I'm having some odd difficulties with my current system and can't get web visum to run correctly here on my main, but it loaded and ran fine on my secondary and tertiary computers, so I don't have a good answer for you! sorry, inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: inthane Cc: webvisum-discuss@... Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 7:55 AM Subject: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Webvisum sent me a new password; I logged in with the new password and tried once again to install the plugin, but still I can't get it to work--I get the "unavailable" message following the "install button" prompt. Is there an issue with my system or browser security settings, or do I actually need an invitation code in addition to the password? Do I need to upgrade Firefox to use this copy of the plugin? Thanks. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: inthane To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:48 PM Subject: Re: Webvisum plugin lost there is a spot, pardon a link where you can fill out a "request" and get an invitation to web visum, if you remember your address and sign in password (the same ones you input into web visum so it could automatically sign in) you can go and download it again, I would use revo uninstaller to pull out the old web visum, and then reinstall a new copy. or at worst case, contact me again and I will get you an invite since I remember both my sign in and my password inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: inthane ; Adrian Spratt ; Gerald Levy ; Negoslav Sabev Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:53 AM Subject: Fw: Webvisum plugin lost Good morning. I'm sending this to you individuals because the JFW list seems to be down right now. Yesterday I sent this to the Webvisum Discuss listserv and subscribed to their mailing list, but I suspect they may be very slow to respond. If I don't hear from them in a week or so, what do I do with Web sites that require verification? I could try Solona but not sure if that works with Firefox, or if it can handle captchas and images as efficiently as Webvisum. Thanks for your feedback. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: webvisum-discuss@... Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 4:37 PM Subject: Webvisum plugin lost Hi all. Recently I've been reading some posts regarding updating to the latest version of Firefox, and that Webvisum hadn't released an update for that version. For some time I've been able to use it on my current version of Firefox 3.6. Someone suggested I download a portable version of Firefox 5 to see how it worked and whether or not Webvisum worked with it. Another post explained a work around for accessing Webvisum with Firefox 5.0, by going to the install.rdf file and changing the max number from 4 to 5. I did this and saved the change, then downloaded the portable Firefox 5, but this created an error message in Firefox 3 saying the file wasn't well-formed or something. Webvisum not only didn't work on the portable Firefox, but now it no longer works on Firefox version 3, and I also deleted the install file for Webvisum and the plugin is no longer there. Can you suggest a way to get a new plugin for Webvisum to download again to Firefox 3? I'm already logged in, but can't find a link to download the plugin. I erroneously sent a request for an invitation but discovered that's not necessary if I know my username and password. Thanks for your assistance. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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inthane <inthaneelf@...> #459 thank you, that's just what we were hoping to hear before the really paranoid, I mean careful ones of us out here let the thing install, smile take care, inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com toggle quoted message Show quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marie Lyons" <mlyons53@...> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 1:56 PM Subject: RE: update for Jaws12 I, too installed the latest jaws release. I haven't had trouble with it. Marie -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Dorothy Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 1:02 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: update for Jaws12 Yes have installed it and did not see any difference to be honest. No shouts of joy from list! -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Roy Sent: 02 July 2011 15:43 To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer; The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: update for Jaws12 Hello,Friends: Jaws12 is now out with a new update. Has anyone on this list installed it on her/his computer yet? If so are you having any trouble with the update? Thanks, Roy Dubriel Please reply. "If you are different from me,brother/sister,it's not wrong,on the contrary you enrich me." Antoinede Saint-Exupéry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...> To: "inthane" <inthaneelf@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 8:16 AM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Sorry, I thought the list would have some experts to suggest possible solutions. I found that submitting comments to Mozilla's support also requires visual confirmation/verification, so that wouldn't help things. Is there another blind-friendly list to discuss this with that won't take verification to log in or post comments? Webvisum is very busy and slow to respond. Thanks anyone. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: "inthane" <inthaneelf@...> To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 12:13 AM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost why the frack aren't you pummeling Firefox with this instead of weeping about it here, that's my freaking plan, gods what a bunch of whips elf . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...> To: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 10:11 AM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost That's a shame!!! Now what shall we do with websites that require verifying yourself to sign in or submit a comment, to verify you're a real human and not a robot? Pity the independent blind users who can't find somebody to help fill in the box or solve the captchas, or don't want to be a nuisance to people who are too busy to jump up and come to their aid! Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@...> To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 1:50 PM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Hi list sorry to report this but, we may not ever have it back. webvisum was disabled the other day when Firefox 5 was installed. it seems mozilla has decided that they will now release new versions of firefox every two months. the word on the NFB graphic user interface list is that webvisum will likely give up trying to update it since there is likely no way for them to ever keep up with this new timetable. Thank you mozilla for caring so much to protect the internet from us dangerous blind hackers/spammers. I wouldn't get my hopes up for a screen reader to have it built in since if they can do that, the real spammers would be able to do it to so that would defeat the whole need for capcha. -----Original Message----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:50 PM To: jfw@... Subject: Fw: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Now that the list is back online, here are some of the latest developments in my attempts to recover the use of Webvisum. Thanks. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: inthane To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 3:35 PM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost that one you would have to take to a group, I'd ask it on both the blind geek zone and/or the list provided by web visum I'm having some odd difficulties with my current system and can't get web visum to run correctly here on my main, but it loaded and ran fine on my secondary and tertiary computers, so I don't have a good answer for you! sorry, inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: inthane Cc: webvisum-discuss@... Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 7:55 AM Subject: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Webvisum sent me a new password; I logged in with the new password and tried once again to install the plugin, but still I can't get it to work--I get the "unavailable" message following the "install button" prompt. Is there an issue with my system or browser security settings, or do I actually need an invitation code in addition to the password? Do I need to upgrade Firefox to use this copy of the plugin? Thanks. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: inthane To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:48 PM Subject: Re: Webvisum plugin lost there is a spot, pardon a link where you can fill out a "request" and get an invitation to web visum, if you remember your address and sign in password (the same ones you input into web visum so it could automatically sign in) you can go and download it again, I would use revo uninstaller to pull out the old web visum, and then reinstall a new copy. or at worst case, contact me again and I will get you an invite since I remember both my sign in and my password inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: inthane ; Adrian Spratt ; Gerald Levy ; Negoslav Sabev Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:53 AM Subject: Fw: Webvisum plugin lost Good morning. I'm sending this to you individuals because the JFW list seems to be down right now. Yesterday I sent this to the Webvisum Discuss listserv and subscribed to their mailing list, but I suspect they may be very slow to respond. If I don't hear from them in a week or so, what do I do with Web sites that require verification? I could try Solona but not sure if that works with Firefox, or if it can handle captchas and images as efficiently as Webvisum. Thanks for your feedback. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: webvisum-discuss@... Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 4:37 PM Subject: Webvisum plugin lost Hi all. Recently I've been reading some posts regarding updating to the latest version of Firefox, and that Webvisum hadn't released an update for that version. For some time I've been able to use it on my current version of Firefox 3.6. Someone suggested I download a portable version of Firefox 5 to see how it worked and whether or not Webvisum worked with it. Another post explained a work around for accessing Webvisum with Firefox 5.0, by going to the install.rdf file and changing the max number from 4 to 5. I did this and saved the change, then downloaded the portable Firefox 5, but this created an error message in Firefox 3 saying the file wasn't well-formed or something. Webvisum not only didn't work on the portable Firefox, but now it no longer works on Firefox version 3, and I also deleted the install file for Webvisum and the plugin is no longer there. Can you suggest a way to get a new plugin for Webvisum to download again to Firefox 3? I'm already logged in, but can't find a link to download the plugin. I erroneously sent a request for an invitation but discovered that's not necessary if I know my username and password. Thanks for your assistance. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Gezim Rexha #466 Hi list, My 'check for updates' feature is not working, so could somebody please post the link where I could download the update from? Regards, Gezim toggle quoted message Show quoted text -----Original Message----- From: Marie Lyons Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 10:56 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: update for Jaws12 I, too installed the latest jaws release. I haven't had trouble with it. Marie -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Dorothy Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 1:02 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: update for Jaws12 Yes have installed it and did not see any difference to be honest. No shouts of joy from list! -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Roy Sent: 02 July 2011 15:43 To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer; The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: update for Jaws12 Hello,Friends: Jaws12 is now out with a new update. Has anyone on this list installed it on her/his computer yet? If so are you having any trouble with the update? Thanks, Roy Dubriel Please reply. "If you are different from me,brother/sister,it's not wrong,on the contrary you enrich me." Antoinede Saint-Exupéry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...> To: "inthane" <inthaneelf@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 8:16 AM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Sorry, I thought the list would have some experts to suggest possible solutions. I found that submitting comments to Mozilla's support also requires visual confirmation/verification, so that wouldn't help things. Is there another blind-friendly list to discuss this with that won't take verification to log in or post comments? Webvisum is very busy and slow to respond. Thanks anyone. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: "inthane" <inthaneelf@...> To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 12:13 AM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost why the frack aren't you pummeling Firefox with this instead of weeping about it here, that's my freaking plan, gods what a bunch of whips elf . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...> To: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 10:11 AM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost That's a shame!!! Now what shall we do with websites that require verifying yourself to sign in or submit a comment, to verify you're a real human and not a robot? Pity the independent blind users who can't find somebody to help fill in the box or solve the captchas, or don't want to be a nuisance to people who are too busy to jump up and come to their aid! Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@...> To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 1:50 PM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Hi list sorry to report this but, we may not ever have it back. webvisum was disabled the other day when Firefox 5 was installed. it seems mozilla has decided that they will now release new versions of firefox every two months. the word on the NFB graphic user interface list is that webvisum will likely give up trying to update it since there is likely no way for them to ever keep up with this new timetable. Thank you mozilla for caring so much to protect the internet from us dangerous blind hackers/spammers. I wouldn't get my hopes up for a screen reader to have it built in since if they can do that, the real spammers would be able to do it to so that would defeat the whole need for capcha. -----Original Message----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:50 PM To: jfw@... Subject: Fw: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Now that the list is back online, here are some of the latest developments in my attempts to recover the use of Webvisum. Thanks. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: inthane To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 3:35 PM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost that one you would have to take to a group, I'd ask it on both the blind geek zone and/or the list provided by web visum I'm having some odd difficulties with my current system and can't get web visum to run correctly here on my main, but it loaded and ran fine on my secondary and tertiary computers, so I don't have a good answer for you! sorry, inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: inthane Cc: webvisum-discuss@... Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 7:55 AM Subject: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Webvisum sent me a new password; I logged in with the new password and tried once again to install the plugin, but still I can't get it to work--I get the "unavailable" message following the "install button" prompt. Is there an issue with my system or browser security settings, or do I actually need an invitation code in addition to the password? Do I need to upgrade Firefox to use this copy of the plugin? Thanks. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: inthane To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:48 PM Subject: Re: Webvisum plugin lost there is a spot, pardon a link where you can fill out a "request" and get an invitation to web visum, if you remember your address and sign in password (the same ones you input into web visum so it could automatically sign in) you can go and download it again, I would use revo uninstaller to pull out the old web visum, and then reinstall a new copy. or at worst case, contact me again and I will get you an invite since I remember both my sign in and my password inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: inthane ; Adrian Spratt ; Gerald Levy ; Negoslav Sabev Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:53 AM Subject: Fw: Webvisum plugin lost Good morning. I'm sending this to you individuals because the JFW list seems to be down right now. Yesterday I sent this to the Webvisum Discuss listserv and subscribed to their mailing list, but I suspect they may be very slow to respond. If I don't hear from them in a week or so, what do I do with Web sites that require verification? I could try Solona but not sure if that works with Firefox, or if it can handle captchas and images as efficiently as Webvisum. Thanks for your feedback. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: webvisum-discuss@... Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 4:37 PM Subject: Webvisum plugin lost Hi all. Recently I've been reading some posts regarding updating to the latest version of Firefox, and that Webvisum hadn't released an update for that version. For some time I've been able to use it on my current version of Firefox 3.6. Someone suggested I download a portable version of Firefox 5 to see how it worked and whether or not Webvisum worked with it. Another post explained a work around for accessing Webvisum with Firefox 5.0, by going to the install.rdf file and changing the max number from 4 to 5. I did this and saved the change, then downloaded the portable Firefox 5, but this created an error message in Firefox 3 saying the file wasn't well-formed or something. Webvisum not only didn't work on the portable Firefox, but now it no longer works on Firefox version 3, and I also deleted the install file for Webvisum and the plugin is no longer there. Can you suggest a way to get a new plugin for Webvisum to download again to Firefox 3? I'm already logged in, but can't find a link to download the plugin. I erroneously sent a request for an invitation but discovered that's not necessary if I know my username and password. Thanks for your assistance. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Loreal Lavigna <llavigna2@...> #467 Go to www.freedomscientific.com and click first on products, next select downloads I believe, then select JAWS. This should take u to a list of jaws product downloads, including the latest update. Loreal Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® toggle quoted message Show quoted text -----Original Message----- From: "Gezim Rexha" <gezim_rexha@...> Sender: jfw-bounces@... Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 13:53:58 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.<jfw@...> Reply-To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Subject: Re: update for Jaws12 Hi list, My 'check for updates' feature is not working, so could somebody please post the link where I could download the update from? Regards, Gezim -----Original Message----- From: Marie Lyons Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 10:56 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: update for Jaws12 I, too installed the latest jaws release. I haven't had trouble with it. Marie -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Dorothy Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 1:02 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: update for Jaws12 Yes have installed it and did not see any difference to be honest. No shouts of joy from list! -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Roy Sent: 02 July 2011 15:43 To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer; The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: update for Jaws12 Hello,Friends: Jaws12 is now out with a new update. Has anyone on this list installed it on her/his computer yet? If so are you having any trouble with the update? Thanks, Roy Dubriel Please reply. "If you are different from me,brother/sister,it's not wrong,on the contrary you enrich me." Antoinede Saint-Exupéry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...> To: "inthane" <inthaneelf@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 8:16 AM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Sorry, I thought the list would have some experts to suggest possible solutions. I found that submitting comments to Mozilla's support also requires visual confirmation/verification, so that wouldn't help things. Is there another blind-friendly list to discuss this with that won't take verification to log in or post comments? Webvisum is very busy and slow to respond. Thanks anyone. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: "inthane" <inthaneelf@...> To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 12:13 AM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost why the frack aren't you pummeling Firefox with this instead of weeping about it here, that's my freaking plan, gods what a bunch of whips elf . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...> To: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 10:11 AM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost That's a shame!!! Now what shall we do with websites that require verifying yourself to sign in or submit a comment, to verify you're a real human and not a robot? Pity the independent blind users who can't find somebody to help fill in the box or solve the captchas, or don't want to be a nuisance to people who are too busy to jump up and come to their aid! Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@...> To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 1:50 PM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Hi list sorry to report this but, we may not ever have it back. webvisum was disabled the other day when Firefox 5 was installed. it seems mozilla has decided that they will now release new versions of firefox every two months. the word on the NFB graphic user interface list is that webvisum will likely give up trying to update it since there is likely no way for them to ever keep up with this new timetable. Thank you mozilla for caring so much to protect the internet from us dangerous blind hackers/spammers. I wouldn't get my hopes up for a screen reader to have it built in since if they can do that, the real spammers would be able to do it to so that would defeat the whole need for capcha. -----Original Message----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:50 PM To: jfw@... Subject: Fw: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Now that the list is back online, here are some of the latest developments in my attempts to recover the use of Webvisum. Thanks. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: inthane To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 3:35 PM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost that one you would have to take to a group, I'd ask it on both the blind geek zone and/or the list provided by web visum I'm having some odd difficulties with my current system and can't get web visum to run correctly here on my main, but it loaded and ran fine on my secondary and tertiary computers, so I don't have a good answer for you! sorry, inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: inthane Cc: webvisum-discuss@... Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 7:55 AM Subject: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Webvisum sent me a new password; I logged in with the new password and tried once again to install the plugin, but still I can't get it to work--I get the "unavailable" message following the "install button" prompt. Is there an issue with my system or browser security settings, or do I actually need an invitation code in addition to the password? Do I need to upgrade Firefox to use this copy of the plugin? Thanks. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: inthane To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:48 PM Subject: Re: Webvisum plugin lost there is a spot, pardon a link where you can fill out a "request" and get an invitation to web visum, if you remember your address and sign in password (the same ones you input into web visum so it could automatically sign in) you can go and download it again, I would use revo uninstaller to pull out the old web visum, and then reinstall a new copy. or at worst case, contact me again and I will get you an invite since I remember both my sign in and my password inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: inthane ; Adrian Spratt ; Gerald Levy ; Negoslav Sabev Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:53 AM Subject: Fw: Webvisum plugin lost Good morning. I'm sending this to you individuals because the JFW list seems to be down right now. Yesterday I sent this to the Webvisum Discuss listserv and subscribed to their mailing list, but I suspect they may be very slow to respond. If I don't hear from them in a week or so, what do I do with Web sites that require verification? I could try Solona but not sure if that works with Firefox, or if it can handle captchas and images as efficiently as Webvisum. Thanks for your feedback. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: webvisum-discuss@... Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 4:37 PM Subject: Webvisum plugin lost Hi all. Recently I've been reading some posts regarding updating to the latest version of Firefox, and that Webvisum hadn't released an update for that version. For some time I've been able to use it on my current version of Firefox 3.6. Someone suggested I download a portable version of Firefox 5 to see how it worked and whether or not Webvisum worked with it. Another post explained a work around for accessing Webvisum with Firefox 5.0, by going to the install.rdf file and changing the max number from 4 to 5. I did this and saved the change, then downloaded the portable Firefox 5, but this created an error message in Firefox 3 saying the file wasn't well-formed or something. Webvisum not only didn't work on the portable Firefox, but now it no longer works on Firefox version 3, and I also deleted the install file for Webvisum and the plugin is no longer there. Can you suggest a way to get a new plugin for Webvisum to download again to Firefox 3? I'm already logged in, but can't find a link to download the plugin. I erroneously sent a request for an invitation but discovered that's not necessary if I know my username and password. Thanks for your assistance. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Adrian Spratt #468 www.freedomscientific.com If I remember correctly, follow the "software" link on the homepage, and then look for the "updates" link. toggle quoted message Show quoted text -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Gezim Rexha Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 7:54 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: update for Jaws12 Hi list, My 'check for updates' feature is not working, so could somebody please post the link where I could download the update from? Regards, Gezim -----Original Message----- From: Marie Lyons Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 10:56 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: update for Jaws12 I, too installed the latest jaws release. I haven't had trouble with it. Marie -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Dorothy Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 1:02 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: update for Jaws12 Yes have installed it and did not see any difference to be honest. No shouts of joy from list! -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Roy Sent: 02 July 2011 15:43 To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer; The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: update for Jaws12 Hello,Friends: Jaws12 is now out with a new update. Has anyone on this list installed it on her/his computer yet? If so are you having any trouble with the update? Thanks, Roy Dubriel Please reply. "If you are different from me,brother/sister,it's not wrong,on the contrary you enrich me." Antoinede Saint-Exupéry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...> To: "inthane" <inthaneelf@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 8:16 AM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Sorry, I thought the list would have some experts to suggest possible solutions. I found that submitting comments to Mozilla's support also requires visual confirmation/verification, so that wouldn't help things. Is there another blind-friendly list to discuss this with that won't take verification to log in or post comments? Webvisum is very busy and slow to respond. Thanks anyone. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: "inthane" <inthaneelf@...> To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 12:13 AM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost why the frack aren't you pummeling Firefox with this instead of weeping about it here, that's my freaking plan, gods what a bunch of whips elf . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...> To: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 10:11 AM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost That's a shame!!! Now what shall we do with websites that require verifying yourself to sign in or submit a comment, to verify you're a real human and not a robot? Pity the independent blind users who can't find somebody to help fill in the box or solve the captchas, or don't want to be a nuisance to people who are too busy to jump up and come to their aid! Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@...> To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 1:50 PM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Hi list sorry to report this but, we may not ever have it back. webvisum was disabled the other day when Firefox 5 was installed. it seems mozilla has decided that they will now release new versions of firefox every two months. the word on the NFB graphic user interface list is that webvisum will likely give up trying to update it since there is likely no way for them to ever keep up with this new timetable. Thank you mozilla for caring so much to protect the internet from us dangerous blind hackers/spammers. I wouldn't get my hopes up for a screen reader to have it built in since if they can do that, the real spammers would be able to do it to so that would defeat the whole need for capcha. -----Original Message----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:50 PM To: jfw@... Subject: Fw: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Now that the list is back online, here are some of the latest developments in my attempts to recover the use of Webvisum. Thanks. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: inthane To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 3:35 PM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost that one you would have to take to a group, I'd ask it on both the blind geek zone and/or the list provided by web visum I'm having some odd difficulties with my current system and can't get web visum to run correctly here on my main, but it loaded and ran fine on my secondary and tertiary computers, so I don't have a good answer for you! sorry, inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: inthane Cc: webvisum-discuss@... Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 7:55 AM Subject: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Webvisum sent me a new password; I logged in with the new password and tried once again to install the plugin, but still I can't get it to work--I get the "unavailable" message following the "install button" prompt. Is there an issue with my system or browser security settings, or do I actually need an invitation code in addition to the password? Do I need to upgrade Firefox to use this copy of the plugin? Thanks. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: inthane To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:48 PM Subject: Re: Webvisum plugin lost there is a spot, pardon a link where you can fill out a "request" and get an invitation to web visum, if you remember your address and sign in password (the same ones you input into web visum so it could automatically sign in) you can go and download it again, I would use revo uninstaller to pull out the old web visum, and then reinstall a new copy. or at worst case, contact me again and I will get you an invite since I remember both my sign in and my password inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: inthane ; Adrian Spratt ; Gerald Levy ; Negoslav Sabev Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:53 AM Subject: Fw: Webvisum plugin lost Good morning. I'm sending this to you individuals because the JFW list seems to be down right now. Yesterday I sent this to the Webvisum Discuss listserv and subscribed to their mailing list, but I suspect they may be very slow to respond. If I don't hear from them in a week or so, what do I do with Web sites that require verification? I could try Solona but not sure if that works with Firefox, or if it can handle captchas and images as efficiently as Webvisum. Thanks for your feedback. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: webvisum-discuss@... Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 4:37 PM Subject: Webvisum plugin lost Hi all. Recently I've been reading some posts regarding updating to the latest version of Firefox, and that Webvisum hadn't released an update for that version. For some time I've been able to use it on my current version of Firefox 3.6. Someone suggested I download a portable version of Firefox 5 to see how it worked and whether or not Webvisum worked with it. Another post explained a work around for accessing Webvisum with Firefox 5.0, by going to the install.rdf file and changing the max number from 4 to 5. I did this and saved the change, then downloaded the portable Firefox 5, but this created an error message in Firefox 3 saying the file wasn't well-formed or something. Webvisum not only didn't work on the portable Firefox, but now it no longer works on Firefox version 3, and I also deleted the install file for Webvisum and the plugin is no longer there. Can you suggest a way to get a new plugin for Webvisum to download again to Firefox 3? I'm already logged in, but can't find a link to download the plugin. I erroneously sent a request for an invitation but discovered that's not necessary if I know my username and password. Thanks for your assistance. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Cy Selfridge #473 Insane, What is the number for the latest update? Cy toggle quoted message Show quoted text -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of inthane Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 12:45 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: update for Jaws12 thank you, that's just what we were hoping to hear before the really paranoid, I mean careful ones of us out here let the thing install, smile take care, inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marie Lyons" <mlyons53@...> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 1:56 PM Subject: RE: update for Jaws12 I, too installed the latest jaws release. I haven't had trouble with it. Marie -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Dorothy Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 1:02 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: update for Jaws12 Yes have installed it and did not see any difference to be honest. No shouts of joy from list! -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Roy Sent: 02 July 2011 15:43 To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer; The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: update for Jaws12 Hello,Friends: Jaws12 is now out with a new update. Has anyone on this list installed it on her/his computer yet? If so are you having any trouble with the update? Thanks, Roy Dubriel Please reply. "If you are different from me,brother/sister,it's not wrong,on the contrary you enrich me." Antoinede Saint-Exupéry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...> To: "inthane" <inthaneelf@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 8:16 AM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Sorry, I thought the list would have some experts to suggest possible solutions. I found that submitting comments to Mozilla's support also requires visual confirmation/verification, so that wouldn't help things. Is there another blind-friendly list to discuss this with that won't take verification to log in or post comments? Webvisum is very busy and slow to respond. Thanks anyone. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: "inthane" <inthaneelf@...> To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 12:13 AM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost why the frack aren't you pummeling Firefox with this instead of weeping about it here, that's my freaking plan, gods what a bunch of whips elf . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...> To: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 10:11 AM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost That's a shame!!! Now what shall we do with websites that require verifying yourself to sign in or submit a comment, to verify you're a real human and not a robot? Pity the independent blind users who can't find somebody to help fill in the box or solve the captchas, or don't want to be a nuisance to people who are too busy to jump up and come to their aid! Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@...> To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 1:50 PM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Hi list sorry to report this but, we may not ever have it back. webvisum was disabled the other day when Firefox 5 was installed. it seems mozilla has decided that they will now release new versions of firefox every two months. the word on the NFB graphic user interface list is that webvisum will likely give up trying to update it since there is likely no way for them to ever keep up with this new timetable. Thank you mozilla for caring so much to protect the internet from us dangerous blind hackers/spammers. I wouldn't get my hopes up for a screen reader to have it built in since if they can do that, the real spammers would be able to do it to so that would defeat the whole need for capcha. -----Original Message----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:50 PM To: jfw@... Subject: Fw: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Now that the list is back online, here are some of the latest developments in my attempts to recover the use of Webvisum. Thanks. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: inthane To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 3:35 PM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost that one you would have to take to a group, I'd ask it on both the blind geek zone and/or the list provided by web visum I'm having some odd difficulties with my current system and can't get web visum to run correctly here on my main, but it loaded and ran fine on my secondary and tertiary computers, so I don't have a good answer for you! sorry, inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: inthane Cc: webvisum-discuss@... Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 7:55 AM Subject: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Webvisum sent me a new password; I logged in with the new password and tried once again to install the plugin, but still I can't get it to work--I get the "unavailable" message following the "install button" prompt. Is there an issue with my system or browser security settings, or do I actually need an invitation code in addition to the password? Do I need to upgrade Firefox to use this copy of the plugin? Thanks. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: inthane To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:48 PM Subject: Re: Webvisum plugin lost there is a spot, pardon a link where you can fill out a "request" and get an invitation to web visum, if you remember your address and sign in password (the same ones you input into web visum so it could automatically sign in) you can go and download it again, I would use revo uninstaller to pull out the old web visum, and then reinstall a new copy. or at worst case, contact me again and I will get you an invite since I remember both my sign in and my password inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: inthane ; Adrian Spratt ; Gerald Levy ; Negoslav Sabev Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:53 AM Subject: Fw: Webvisum plugin lost Good morning. I'm sending this to you individuals because the JFW list seems to be down right now. Yesterday I sent this to the Webvisum Discuss listserv and subscribed to their mailing list, but I suspect they may be very slow to respond. If I don't hear from them in a week or so, what do I do with Web sites that require verification? I could try Solona but not sure if that works with Firefox, or if it can handle captchas and images as efficiently as Webvisum. Thanks for your feedback. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: webvisum-discuss@... Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 4:37 PM Subject: Webvisum plugin lost Hi all. Recently I've been reading some posts regarding updating to the latest version of Firefox, and that Webvisum hadn't released an update for that version. For some time I've been able to use it on my current version of Firefox 3.6. Someone suggested I download a portable version of Firefox 5 to see how it worked and whether or not Webvisum worked with it. Another post explained a work around for accessing Webvisum with Firefox 5.0, by going to the install.rdf file and changing the max number from 4 to 5. I did this and saved the change, then downloaded the portable Firefox 5, but this created an error message in Firefox 3 saying the file wasn't well-formed or something. Webvisum not only didn't work on the portable Firefox, but now it no longer works on Firefox version 3, and I also deleted the install file for Webvisum and the plugin is no longer there. Can you suggest a way to get a new plugin for Webvisum to download again to Firefox 3? I'm already logged in, but can't find a link to download the plugin. I erroneously sent a request for an invitation but discovered that's not necessary if I know my username and password. Thanks for your assistance. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Loreal Lavigna <Llavigna2@...> #474 This was not addressed to me but I thought I'd answer anyhow. The latest number for the update is 12.0.1167 Hope this helps! Loreal Lavigna Princess House Lifestyle Consultant Email: LorealLavigna@... Website: www.princesshouse.com/llavigna Medical Transcriptionist Phone: (518) 330-5188 Email: MedTran12305@... toggle quoted message Show quoted text -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Cy Selfridge Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 10:25 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: update for Jaws12 Insane, What is the number for the latest update? Cy -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of inthane Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 12:45 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: update for Jaws12 thank you, that's just what we were hoping to hear before the really paranoid, I mean careful ones of us out here let the thing install, smile take care, inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marie Lyons" <mlyons53@...> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 1:56 PM Subject: RE: update for Jaws12 I, too installed the latest jaws release. I haven't had trouble with it. Marie -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Dorothy Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 1:02 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: update for Jaws12 Yes have installed it and did not see any difference to be honest. No shouts of joy from list! -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Roy Sent: 02 July 2011 15:43 To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer; The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: update for Jaws12 Hello,Friends: Jaws12 is now out with a new update. Has anyone on this list installed it on her/his computer yet? If so are you having any trouble with the update? Thanks, Roy Dubriel Please reply. "If you are different from me,brother/sister,it's not wrong,on the contrary you enrich me." Antoinede Saint-Exupéry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...> To: "inthane" <inthaneelf@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 8:16 AM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Sorry, I thought the list would have some experts to suggest possible solutions. I found that submitting comments to Mozilla's support also requires visual confirmation/verification, so that wouldn't help things. Is there another blind-friendly list to discuss this with that won't take verification to log in or post comments? Webvisum is very busy and slow to respond. Thanks anyone. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: "inthane" <inthaneelf@...> To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 12:13 AM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost why the frack aren't you pummeling Firefox with this instead of weeping about it here, that's my freaking plan, gods what a bunch of whips elf . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...> To: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 10:11 AM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost That's a shame!!! Now what shall we do with websites that require verifying yourself to sign in or submit a comment, to verify you're a real human and not a robot? Pity the independent blind users who can't find somebody to help fill in the box or solve the captchas, or don't want to be a nuisance to people who are too busy to jump up and come to their aid! Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@...> To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 1:50 PM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Hi list sorry to report this but, we may not ever have it back. webvisum was disabled the other day when Firefox 5 was installed. it seems mozilla has decided that they will now release new versions of firefox every two months. the word on the NFB graphic user interface list is that webvisum will likely give up trying to update it since there is likely no way for them to ever keep up with this new timetable. Thank you mozilla for caring so much to protect the internet from us dangerous blind hackers/spammers. I wouldn't get my hopes up for a screen reader to have it built in since if they can do that, the real spammers would be able to do it to so that would defeat the whole need for capcha. -----Original Message----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:50 PM To: jfw@... Subject: Fw: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Now that the list is back online, here are some of the latest developments in my attempts to recover the use of Webvisum. Thanks. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: inthane To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 3:35 PM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost that one you would have to take to a group, I'd ask it on both the blind geek zone and/or the list provided by web visum I'm having some odd difficulties with my current system and can't get web visum to run correctly here on my main, but it loaded and ran fine on my secondary and tertiary computers, so I don't have a good answer for you! sorry, inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: inthane Cc: webvisum-discuss@... Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 7:55 AM Subject: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Webvisum sent me a new password; I logged in with the new password and tried once again to install the plugin, but still I can't get it to work--I get the "unavailable" message following the "install button" prompt. Is there an issue with my system or browser security settings, or do I actually need an invitation code in addition to the password? Do I need to upgrade Firefox to use this copy of the plugin? Thanks. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: inthane To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:48 PM Subject: Re: Webvisum plugin lost there is a spot, pardon a link where you can fill out a "request" and get an invitation to web visum, if you remember your address and sign in password (the same ones you input into web visum so it could automatically sign in) you can go and download it again, I would use revo uninstaller to pull out the old web visum, and then reinstall a new copy. or at worst case, contact me again and I will get you an invite since I remember both my sign in and my password inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: inthane ; Adrian Spratt ; Gerald Levy ; Negoslav Sabev Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:53 AM Subject: Fw: Webvisum plugin lost Good morning. I'm sending this to you individuals because the JFW list seems to be down right now. Yesterday I sent this to the Webvisum Discuss listserv and subscribed to their mailing list, but I suspect they may be very slow to respond. If I don't hear from them in a week or so, what do I do with Web sites that require verification? I could try Solona but not sure if that works with Firefox, or if it can handle captchas and images as efficiently as Webvisum. Thanks for your feedback. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: webvisum-discuss@... Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 4:37 PM Subject: Webvisum plugin lost Hi all. Recently I've been reading some posts regarding updating to the latest version of Firefox, and that Webvisum hadn't released an update for that version. For some time I've been able to use it on my current version of Firefox 3.6. Someone suggested I download a portable version of Firefox 5 to see how it worked and whether or not Webvisum worked with it. Another post explained a work around for accessing Webvisum with Firefox 5.0, by going to the install.rdf file and changing the max number from 4 to 5. I did this and saved the change, then downloaded the portable Firefox 5, but this created an error message in Firefox 3 saying the file wasn't well-formed or something. Webvisum not only didn't work on the portable Firefox, but now it no longer works on Firefox version 3, and I also deleted the install file for Webvisum and the plugin is no longer there. Can you suggest a way to get a new plugin for Webvisum to download again to Firefox 3? I'm already logged in, but can't find a link to download the plugin. I erroneously sent a request for an invitation but discovered that's not necessary if I know my username and password. Thanks for your assistance. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Loreal Lavigna <Llavigna2@...> #475 I have been using it since June 29 when it became available for me. It works very well for me, and I too have no issues to speak of at this time. Loreal Loreal Lavigna Princess House Lifestyle Consultant Email: LorealLavigna@... Website: www.princesshouse.com/llavigna Medical Transcriptionist Phone: (518) 330-5188 Email: MedTran12305@... toggle quoted message Show quoted text -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of inthane Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 2:45 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: update for Jaws12 thank you, that's just what we were hoping to hear before the really paranoid, I mean careful ones of us out here let the thing install, smile take care, inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marie Lyons" <mlyons53@...> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 1:56 PM Subject: RE: update for Jaws12 I, too installed the latest jaws release. I haven't had trouble with it. Marie -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Dorothy Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 1:02 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: update for Jaws12 Yes have installed it and did not see any difference to be honest. No shouts of joy from list! -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Roy Sent: 02 July 2011 15:43 To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer; The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: update for Jaws12 Hello,Friends: Jaws12 is now out with a new update. Has anyone on this list installed it on her/his computer yet? If so are you having any trouble with the update? Thanks, Roy Dubriel Please reply. "If you are different from me,brother/sister,it's not wrong,on the contrary you enrich me." Antoinede Saint-Exupéry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...> To: "inthane" <inthaneelf@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 8:16 AM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Sorry, I thought the list would have some experts to suggest possible solutions. I found that submitting comments to Mozilla's support also requires visual confirmation/verification, so that wouldn't help things. Is there another blind-friendly list to discuss this with that won't take verification to log in or post comments? Webvisum is very busy and slow to respond. Thanks anyone. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: "inthane" <inthaneelf@...> To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 12:13 AM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost why the frack aren't you pummeling Firefox with this instead of weeping about it here, that's my freaking plan, gods what a bunch of whips elf . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...> To: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 10:11 AM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost That's a shame!!! Now what shall we do with websites that require verifying yourself to sign in or submit a comment, to verify you're a real human and not a robot? Pity the independent blind users who can't find somebody to help fill in the box or solve the captchas, or don't want to be a nuisance to people who are too busy to jump up and come to their aid! Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@...> To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 1:50 PM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Hi list sorry to report this but, we may not ever have it back. webvisum was disabled the other day when Firefox 5 was installed. it seems mozilla has decided that they will now release new versions of firefox every two months. the word on the NFB graphic user interface list is that webvisum will likely give up trying to update it since there is likely no way for them to ever keep up with this new timetable. Thank you mozilla for caring so much to protect the internet from us dangerous blind hackers/spammers. I wouldn't get my hopes up for a screen reader to have it built in since if they can do that, the real spammers would be able to do it to so that would defeat the whole need for capcha. -----Original Message----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:50 PM To: jfw@... Subject: Fw: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Now that the list is back online, here are some of the latest developments in my attempts to recover the use of Webvisum. Thanks. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: inthane To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 3:35 PM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost that one you would have to take to a group, I'd ask it on both the blind geek zone and/or the list provided by web visum I'm having some odd difficulties with my current system and can't get web visum to run correctly here on my main, but it loaded and ran fine on my secondary and tertiary computers, so I don't have a good answer for you! sorry, inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: inthane Cc: webvisum-discuss@... Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 7:55 AM Subject: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Webvisum sent me a new password; I logged in with the new password and tried once again to install the plugin, but still I can't get it to work--I get the "unavailable" message following the "install button" prompt. Is there an issue with my system or browser security settings, or do I actually need an invitation code in addition to the password? Do I need to upgrade Firefox to use this copy of the plugin? Thanks. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: inthane To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:48 PM Subject: Re: Webvisum plugin lost there is a spot, pardon a link where you can fill out a "request" and get an invitation to web visum, if you remember your address and sign in password (the same ones you input into web visum so it could automatically sign in) you can go and download it again, I would use revo uninstaller to pull out the old web visum, and then reinstall a new copy. or at worst case, contact me again and I will get you an invite since I remember both my sign in and my password inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: inthane ; Adrian Spratt ; Gerald Levy ; Negoslav Sabev Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:53 AM Subject: Fw: Webvisum plugin lost Good morning. I'm sending this to you individuals because the JFW list seems to be down right now. Yesterday I sent this to the Webvisum Discuss listserv and subscribed to their mailing list, but I suspect they may be very slow to respond. If I don't hear from them in a week or so, what do I do with Web sites that require verification? I could try Solona but not sure if that works with Firefox, or if it can handle captchas and images as efficiently as Webvisum. Thanks for your feedback. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: webvisum-discuss@... Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 4:37 PM Subject: Webvisum plugin lost Hi all. Recently I've been reading some posts regarding updating to the latest version of Firefox, and that Webvisum hadn't released an update for that version. For some time I've been able to use it on my current version of Firefox 3.6. Someone suggested I download a portable version of Firefox 5 to see how it worked and whether or not Webvisum worked with it. Another post explained a work around for accessing Webvisum with Firefox 5.0, by going to the install.rdf file and changing the max number from 4 to 5. 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Dave... #476 Do you use Excel? Dave Carlson Composed on a Dell Latitude 630 in the general vicinity of my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. toggle quoted message Show quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "Loreal Lavigna" <Llavigna2@...> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 7:54 Subject: RE: update for Jaws12 I have been using it since June 29 when it became available for me. It works very well for me, and I too have no issues to speak of at this time. Loreal Loreal Lavigna Princess House Lifestyle Consultant Email: LorealLavigna@... Website: www.princesshouse.com/llavigna Medical Transcriptionist Phone: (518) 330-5188 Email: MedTran12305@... -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of inthane Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 2:45 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: update for Jaws12 thank you, that's just what we were hoping to hear before the really paranoid, I mean careful ones of us out here let the thing install, smile take care, inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marie Lyons" <mlyons53@...> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 1:56 PM Subject: RE: update for Jaws12 I, too installed the latest jaws release. I haven't had trouble with it. Marie -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Dorothy Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 1:02 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: update for Jaws12 Yes have installed it and did not see any difference to be honest. No shouts of joy from list! -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Roy Sent: 02 July 2011 15:43 To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer; The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: update for Jaws12 Hello,Friends: Jaws12 is now out with a new update. Has anyone on this list installed it on her/his computer yet? If so are you having any trouble with the update? Thanks, Roy Dubriel Please reply. "If you are different from me,brother/sister,it's not wrong,on the contrary you enrich me." Antoinede Saint-Exupéry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...> To: "inthane" <inthaneelf@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 8:16 AM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Sorry, I thought the list would have some experts to suggest possible solutions. I found that submitting comments to Mozilla's support also requires visual confirmation/verification, so that wouldn't help things. Is there another blind-friendly list to discuss this with that won't take verification to log in or post comments? Webvisum is very busy and slow to respond. Thanks anyone. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: "inthane" <inthaneelf@...> To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 12:13 AM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost why the frack aren't you pummeling Firefox with this instead of weeping about it here, that's my freaking plan, gods what a bunch of whips elf . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...> To: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 10:11 AM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost That's a shame!!! Now what shall we do with websites that require verifying yourself to sign in or submit a comment, to verify you're a real human and not a robot? Pity the independent blind users who can't find somebody to help fill in the box or solve the captchas, or don't want to be a nuisance to people who are too busy to jump up and come to their aid! Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@...> To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 1:50 PM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Hi list sorry to report this but, we may not ever have it back. webvisum was disabled the other day when Firefox 5 was installed. it seems mozilla has decided that they will now release new versions of firefox every two months. the word on the NFB graphic user interface list is that webvisum will likely give up trying to update it since there is likely no way for them to ever keep up with this new timetable. Thank you mozilla for caring so much to protect the internet from us dangerous blind hackers/spammers. I wouldn't get my hopes up for a screen reader to have it built in since if they can do that, the real spammers would be able to do it to so that would defeat the whole need for capcha. -----Original Message----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:50 PM To: jfw@... Subject: Fw: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Now that the list is back online, here are some of the latest developments in my attempts to recover the use of Webvisum. Thanks. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: inthane To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 3:35 PM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost that one you would have to take to a group, I'd ask it on both the blind geek zone and/or the list provided by web visum I'm having some odd difficulties with my current system and can't get web visum to run correctly here on my main, but it loaded and ran fine on my secondary and tertiary computers, so I don't have a good answer for you! sorry, inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: inthane Cc: webvisum-discuss@... Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 7:55 AM Subject: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Webvisum sent me a new password; I logged in with the new password and tried once again to install the plugin, but still I can't get it to work--I get the "unavailable" message following the "install button" prompt. Is there an issue with my system or browser security settings, or do I actually need an invitation code in addition to the password? Do I need to upgrade Firefox to use this copy of the plugin? Thanks. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: inthane To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:48 PM Subject: Re: Webvisum plugin lost there is a spot, pardon a link where you can fill out a "request" and get an invitation to web visum, if you remember your address and sign in password (the same ones you input into web visum so it could automatically sign in) you can go and download it again, I would use revo uninstaller to pull out the old web visum, and then reinstall a new copy. or at worst case, contact me again and I will get you an invite since I remember both my sign in and my password inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: inthane ; Adrian Spratt ; Gerald Levy ; Negoslav Sabev Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:53 AM Subject: Fw: Webvisum plugin lost Good morning. I'm sending this to you individuals because the JFW list seems to be down right now. Yesterday I sent this to the Webvisum Discuss listserv and subscribed to their mailing list, but I suspect they may be very slow to respond. If I don't hear from them in a week or so, what do I do with Web sites that require verification? I could try Solona but not sure if that works with Firefox, or if it can handle captchas and images as efficiently as Webvisum. Thanks for your feedback. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: webvisum-discuss@... Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 4:37 PM Subject: Webvisum plugin lost Hi all. Recently I've been reading some posts regarding updating to the latest version of Firefox, and that Webvisum hadn't released an update for that version. For some time I've been able to use it on my current version of Firefox 3.6. Someone suggested I download a portable version of Firefox 5 to see how it worked and whether or not Webvisum worked with it. Another post explained a work around for accessing Webvisum with Firefox 5.0, by going to the install.rdf file and changing the max number from 4 to 5. I did this and saved the change, then downloaded the portable Firefox 5, but this created an error message in Firefox 3 saying the file wasn't well-formed or something. Webvisum not only didn't work on the portable Firefox, but now it no longer works on Firefox version 3, and I also deleted the install file for Webvisum and the plugin is no longer there. Can you suggest a way to get a new plugin for Webvisum to download again to Firefox 3? I'm already logged in, but can't find a link to download the plugin. I erroneously sent a request for an invitation but discovered that's not necessary if I know my username and password. Thanks for your assistance. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Loreal Lavigna <llavigna2@...> #477 I do sometimes, yes. Not nearly as often as I did about 3 years ago, but I keep up with it. Loreal Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® toggle quoted message Show quoted text -----Original Message----- From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@...> Sender: jfw-bounces@... Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 08:13:07 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.<jfw@...> Reply-To: Farfar on Laptop <dgcarlson@...>, "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Subject: Re: update for Jaws12 Do you use Excel? Dave Carlson Composed on a Dell Latitude 630 in the general vicinity of my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Loreal Lavigna" <Llavigna2@...> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 7:54 Subject: RE: update for Jaws12 I have been using it since June 29 when it became available for me. It works very well for me, and I too have no issues to speak of at this time. Loreal Loreal Lavigna Princess House Lifestyle Consultant Email: LorealLavigna@... Website: www.princesshouse.com/llavigna Medical Transcriptionist Phone: (518) 330-5188 Email: MedTran12305@... -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of inthane Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 2:45 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: update for Jaws12 thank you, that's just what we were hoping to hear before the really paranoid, I mean careful ones of us out here let the thing install, smile take care, inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marie Lyons" <mlyons53@...> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 1:56 PM Subject: RE: update for Jaws12 I, too installed the latest jaws release. I haven't had trouble with it. Marie -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Dorothy Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 1:02 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: update for Jaws12 Yes have installed it and did not see any difference to be honest. No shouts of joy from list! -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Roy Sent: 02 July 2011 15:43 To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer; The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: update for Jaws12 Hello,Friends: Jaws12 is now out with a new update. Has anyone on this list installed it on her/his computer yet? If so are you having any trouble with the update? Thanks, Roy Dubriel Please reply. "If you are different from me,brother/sister,it's not wrong,on the contrary you enrich me." Antoinede Saint-Exupéry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...> To: "inthane" <inthaneelf@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 8:16 AM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Sorry, I thought the list would have some experts to suggest possible solutions. I found that submitting comments to Mozilla's support also requires visual confirmation/verification, so that wouldn't help things. Is there another blind-friendly list to discuss this with that won't take verification to log in or post comments? Webvisum is very busy and slow to respond. Thanks anyone. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: "inthane" <inthaneelf@...> To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 12:13 AM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost why the frack aren't you pummeling Firefox with this instead of weeping about it here, that's my freaking plan, gods what a bunch of whips elf . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...> To: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 10:11 AM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost That's a shame!!! Now what shall we do with websites that require verifying yourself to sign in or submit a comment, to verify you're a real human and not a robot? Pity the independent blind users who can't find somebody to help fill in the box or solve the captchas, or don't want to be a nuisance to people who are too busy to jump up and come to their aid! Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@...> To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 1:50 PM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Hi list sorry to report this but, we may not ever have it back. webvisum was disabled the other day when Firefox 5 was installed. it seems mozilla has decided that they will now release new versions of firefox every two months. the word on the NFB graphic user interface list is that webvisum will likely give up trying to update it since there is likely no way for them to ever keep up with this new timetable. Thank you mozilla for caring so much to protect the internet from us dangerous blind hackers/spammers. I wouldn't get my hopes up for a screen reader to have it built in since if they can do that, the real spammers would be able to do it to so that would defeat the whole need for capcha. -----Original Message----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:50 PM To: jfw@... Subject: Fw: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Now that the list is back online, here are some of the latest developments in my attempts to recover the use of Webvisum. Thanks. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: inthane To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 3:35 PM Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost that one you would have to take to a group, I'd ask it on both the blind geek zone and/or the list provided by web visum I'm having some odd difficulties with my current system and can't get web visum to run correctly here on my main, but it loaded and ran fine on my secondary and tertiary computers, so I don't have a good answer for you! sorry, inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: inthane Cc: webvisum-discuss@... Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 7:55 AM Subject: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost Webvisum sent me a new password; I logged in with the new password and tried once again to install the plugin, but still I can't get it to work--I get the "unavailable" message following the "install button" prompt. Is there an issue with my system or browser security settings, or do I actually need an invitation code in addition to the password? Do I need to upgrade Firefox to use this copy of the plugin? Thanks. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: inthane To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:48 PM Subject: Re: Webvisum plugin lost there is a spot, pardon a link where you can fill out a "request" and get an invitation to web visum, if you remember your address and sign in password (the same ones you input into web visum so it could automatically sign in) you can go and download it again, I would use revo uninstaller to pull out the old web visum, and then reinstall a new copy. or at worst case, contact me again and I will get you an invite since I remember both my sign in and my password inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: inthane ; Adrian Spratt ; Gerald Levy ; Negoslav Sabev Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:53 AM Subject: Fw: Webvisum plugin lost Good morning. I'm sending this to you individuals because the JFW list seems to be down right now. Yesterday I sent this to the Webvisum Discuss listserv and subscribed to their mailing list, but I suspect they may be very slow to respond. If I don't hear from them in a week or so, what do I do with Web sites that require verification? I could try Solona but not sure if that works with Firefox, or if it can handle captchas and images as efficiently as Webvisum. Thanks for your feedback. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer To: webvisum-discuss@... Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 4:37 PM Subject: Webvisum plugin lost Hi all. Recently I've been reading some posts regarding updating to the latest version of Firefox, and that Webvisum hadn't released an update for that version. For some time I've been able to use it on my current version of Firefox 3.6. Someone suggested I download a portable version of Firefox 5 to see how it worked and whether or not Webvisum worked with it. Another post explained a work around for accessing Webvisum with Firefox 5.0, by going to the install.rdf file and changing the max number from 4 to 5. I did this and saved the change, then downloaded the portable Firefox 5, but this created an error message in Firefox 3 saying the file wasn't well-formed or something. Webvisum not only didn't work on the portable Firefox, but now it no longer works on Firefox version 3, and I also deleted the install file for Webvisum and the plugin is no longer there. Can you suggest a way to get a new plugin for Webvisum to download again to Firefox 3? I'm already logged in, but can't find a link to download the plugin. I erroneously sent a request for an invitation but discovered that's not necessary if I know my username and password. Thanks for your assistance. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773-409-6163 cell 913-244-0612 drichardd@... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Chris Smart <csmart8@...> #484 And, what's the version number for the new update? I poked around the FS site yesterday and couldn't find anything specific, either a version number or list of bug fixes/changes. Chris
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Chris Smart <csmart8@...> #497 At 10:49 AM 7/4/2011, you wrote: This was not addressed to me but I thought I'd answer anyhow. The latest number for the update is 12.0.1167 Ah ok. All this time, I thought we were talking about an update newer than that.
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