----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@...>
To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

Hi list sorry to report this but, we may not ever have it back. webvisum was disabled the other day when Firefox 5 was installed. it seems mozilla has decided that they will now release new versions of firefox every two months. the word on the NFB graphic user interface list is that webvisum will likely give up trying to update it since there is likely no way for them to ever keep up with this new timetable. Thank you mozilla for caring so much to protect the internet from us dangerous blind hackers/spammers. I wouldn't get my hopes up for a screen reader to have it built in since if they can do that, the real spammers would be able to do it to so that would defeat the whole need for capcha.

-----Original Message-----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:50 PM
To: jfw@...
Subject: Fw: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

Now that the list is back online, here are some of the latest developments in my attempts to recover the use of Webvisum. Thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
----- Original Message -----
From: inthane
To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost


that one you would have to take to a group, I'd ask it on both the blind geek zone and/or the list provided by web visum I'm having some odd difficulties with my current system and can't get web visum to run correctly here on my main, but it loaded and ran fine on my secondary and tertiary computers, so I don't have a good answer for you!

sorry,
inthane
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
To: inthane
Cc: webvisum-discuss@...
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 7:55 AM
Subject: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost


Webvisum sent me a new password; I logged in with the new password and tried once again to install the plugin, but still I can't get it to work--I get the "unavailable" message following the "install button" prompt. Is there an issue with my system or browser security settings, or do I actually need an invitation code in addition to the password? Do I need to upgrade Firefox to use this copy of the plugin? Thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
----- Original Message -----
From: inthane
To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: Webvisum plugin lost


there is a spot, pardon a link where you can fill out a "request" and get an invitation to web visum, if you remember your address and sign in password (the same ones you input into web visum so it could automatically sign in) you can go and download it again, I would use revo uninstaller to pull out the old web visum, and then reinstall a new copy.

or at worst case, contact me again and I will get you an invite since I remember both my sign in and my password

inthane
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
To: inthane ; Adrian Spratt ; Gerald Levy ; Negoslav Sabev
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:53 AM
Subject: Fw: Webvisum plugin lost


Good morning. I'm sending this to you individuals because the JFW list seems to be down right now.
Yesterday I sent this to the Webvisum Discuss listserv and subscribed to their mailing list, but I suspect they may be very slow to respond. If I don't hear from them in a week or so, what do I do with Web sites that require verification? I could try Solona but not sure if that works with Firefox, or if it can handle captchas and images as efficiently as Webvisum. Thanks for your feedback.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
To: webvisum-discuss@...
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 4:37 PM
Subject: Webvisum plugin lost


Hi all. Recently I've been reading some posts regarding updating to the latest version of Firefox, and that Webvisum hadn't released an update for that version. For some time I've been able to use it on my current version of Firefox 3.6. Someone suggested I download a portable version of Firefox 5 to see how it worked and whether or not Webvisum worked with it. Another post explained a work around for accessing Webvisum with Firefox 5.0, by going to the install.rdf file and changing the max number from 4 to 5. I did this and saved the change, then downloaded the portable Firefox 5, but this created an error message in Firefox 3 saying the file wasn't well-formed or something. Webvisum not only didn't work on the portable Firefox, but now it no longer works on Firefox version 3, and I also deleted the install file for Webvisum and the plugin is no longer there.
Can you suggest a way to get a new plugin for Webvisum to download again to Firefox 3? I'm already logged in, but can't find a link to download the plugin. I erroneously sent a request for an invitation but discovered that's not necessary if I know my username and password. Thanks for your assistance.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@...>
To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

Hi list sorry to report this but, we may not ever have it back. webvisum was disabled the other day when Firefox 5 was installed. it seems mozilla has decided that they will now release new versions of firefox every two months. the word on the NFB graphic user interface list is that webvisum will likely give up trying to update it since there is likely no way for them to ever keep up with this new timetable. Thank you mozilla for caring so much to protect the internet from us dangerous blind hackers/spammers. I wouldn't get my hopes up for a screen reader to have it built in since if they can do that, the real spammers would be able to do it to so that would defeat the whole need for capcha.

-----Original Message-----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:50 PM
To: jfw@...
Subject: Fw: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

Now that the list is back online, here are some of the latest developments in my attempts to recover the use of Webvisum. Thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
----- Original Message -----
From: inthane
To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost


that one you would have to take to a group, I'd ask it on both the blind geek zone and/or the list provided by web visum I'm having some odd difficulties with my current system and can't get web visum to run correctly here on my main, but it loaded and ran fine on my secondary and tertiary computers, so I don't have a good answer for you!

sorry,
inthane
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
To: inthane
Cc: webvisum-discuss@...
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 7:55 AM
Subject: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost


Webvisum sent me a new password; I logged in with the new password and tried once again to install the plugin, but still I can't get it to work--I get the "unavailable" message following the "install button" prompt. Is there an issue with my system or browser security settings, or do I actually need an invitation code in addition to the password? Do I need to upgrade Firefox to use this copy of the plugin? Thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
----- Original Message -----
From: inthane
To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: Webvisum plugin lost


there is a spot, pardon a link where you can fill out a "request" and get an invitation to web visum, if you remember your address and sign in password (the same ones you input into web visum so it could automatically sign in) you can go and download it again, I would use revo uninstaller to pull out the old web visum, and then reinstall a new copy.

or at worst case, contact me again and I will get you an invite since I remember both my sign in and my password

inthane
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
To: inthane ; Adrian Spratt ; Gerald Levy ; Negoslav Sabev
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:53 AM
Subject: Fw: Webvisum plugin lost


Good morning. I'm sending this to you individuals because the JFW list seems to be down right now.
Yesterday I sent this to the Webvisum Discuss listserv and subscribed to their mailing list, but I suspect they may be very slow to respond. If I don't hear from them in a week or so, what do I do with Web sites that require verification? I could try Solona but not sure if that works with Firefox, or if it can handle captchas and images as efficiently as Webvisum. Thanks for your feedback.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
To: webvisum-discuss@...
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 4:37 PM
Subject: Webvisum plugin lost


Hi all. Recently I've been reading some posts regarding updating to the latest version of Firefox, and that Webvisum hadn't released an update for that version. For some time I've been able to use it on my current version of Firefox 3.6. Someone suggested I download a portable version of Firefox 5 to see how it worked and whether or not Webvisum worked with it. Another post explained a work around for accessing Webvisum with Firefox 5.0, by going to the install.rdf file and changing the max number from 4 to 5. I did this and saved the change, then downloaded the portable Firefox 5, but this created an error message in Firefox 3 saying the file wasn't well-formed or something. Webvisum not only didn't work on the portable Firefox, but now it no longer works on Firefox version 3, and I also deleted the install file for Webvisum and the plugin is no longer there.
Can you suggest a way to get a new plugin for Webvisum to download again to Firefox 3? I'm already logged in, but can't find a link to download the plugin. I erroneously sent a request for an invitation but discovered that's not necessary if I know my username and password. Thanks for your assistance.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

Thank goodness I still have Firefox 3.6, which I will hang onto forever, if that's the only way I can still use Webvisum. I guess the fine folks at Mozilla really don't give a rat's ass about accessibility.

Gerald


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@...>
To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

Hi list sorry to report this but, we may not ever have it back. webvisum was disabled the other day when Firefox 5 was installed. it seems mozilla has decided that they will now release new versions of firefox every two months. the word on the NFB graphic user interface list is that webvisum will likely give up trying to update it since there is likely no way for them to ever keep up with this new timetable. Thank you mozilla for caring so much to protect the internet from us dangerous blind hackers/spammers. I wouldn't get my hopes up for a screen reader to have it built in since if they can do that, the real spammers would be able to do it to so that would defeat the whole need for capcha.

-----Original Message-----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:50 PM
To: jfw@...
Subject: Fw: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

Now that the list is back online, here are some of the latest developments in my attempts to recover the use of Webvisum. Thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
----- Original Message -----
From: inthane
To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost


that one you would have to take to a group, I'd ask it on both the blind geek zone and/or the list provided by web visum I'm having some odd difficulties with my current system and can't get web visum to run correctly here on my main, but it loaded and ran fine on my secondary and tertiary computers, so I don't have a good answer for you!

sorry,
inthane
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
To: inthane
Cc: webvisum-discuss@...
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 7:55 AM
Subject: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost


Webvisum sent me a new password; I logged in with the new password and tried once again to install the plugin, but still I can't get it to work--I get the "unavailable" message following the "install button" prompt. Is there an issue with my system or browser security settings, or do I actually need an invitation code in addition to the password? Do I need to upgrade Firefox to use this copy of the plugin? Thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
----- Original Message -----
From: inthane
To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: Webvisum plugin lost


there is a spot, pardon a link where you can fill out a "request" and get an invitation to web visum, if you remember your address and sign in password (the same ones you input into web visum so it could automatically sign in) you can go and download it again, I would use revo uninstaller to pull out the old web visum, and then reinstall a new copy.

or at worst case, contact me again and I will get you an invite since I remember both my sign in and my password

inthane
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
To: inthane ; Adrian Spratt ; Gerald Levy ; Negoslav Sabev
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:53 AM
Subject: Fw: Webvisum plugin lost


Good morning. I'm sending this to you individuals because the JFW list seems to be down right now.
Yesterday I sent this to the Webvisum Discuss listserv and subscribed to their mailing list, but I suspect they may be very slow to respond. If I don't hear from them in a week or so, what do I do with Web sites that require verification? I could try Solona but not sure if that works with Firefox, or if it can handle captchas and images as efficiently as Webvisum. Thanks for your feedback.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
To: webvisum-discuss@...
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 4:37 PM
Subject: Webvisum plugin lost


Hi all. Recently I've been reading some posts regarding updating to the latest version of Firefox, and that Webvisum hadn't released an update for that version. For some time I've been able to use it on my current version of Firefox 3.6. Someone suggested I download a portable version of Firefox 5 to see how it worked and whether or not Webvisum worked with it. Another post explained a work around for accessing Webvisum with Firefox 5.0, by going to the install.rdf file and changing the max number from 4 to 5. I did this and saved the change, then downloaded the portable Firefox 5, but this created an error message in Firefox 3 saying the file wasn't well-formed or something. Webvisum not only didn't work on the portable Firefox, but now it no longer works on Firefox version 3, and I also deleted the install file for Webvisum and the plugin is no longer there.
Can you suggest a way to get a new plugin for Webvisum to download again to Firefox 3? I'm already logged in, but can't find a link to download the plugin. I erroneously sent a request for an invitation but discovered that's not necessary if I know my username and password. Thanks for your assistance.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
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-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 10:12 AM
To: Ken lawrence; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

That's a shame!!! Now what shall we do with websites that require verifying
yourself to sign in or submit a comment, to verify you're a real human and
not a robot? Pity the independent blind users who can't find somebody to
help fill in the box or solve the captchas, or don't want to be a nuisance
to people who are too busy to jump up and come to their aid!

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@...>
To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>; "The Jaws for
Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

Hi list sorry to report this but, we may not ever have it back. webvisum
was disabled the other day when Firefox 5 was installed. it seems mozilla

has decided that they will now release new versions of firefox every two
months. the word on the NFB graphic user interface list is that webvisum
will likely give up trying to update it since there is likely no way for
them to ever keep up with this new timetable. Thank you mozilla for
caring so much to protect the internet from us dangerous blind
hackers/spammers. I wouldn't get my hopes up for a screen reader to have
it built in since if they can do that, the real spammers would be able to
do it to so that would defeat the whole need for capcha.

-----Original Message-----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:50 PM
To: jfw@...
Subject: Fw: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

Now that the list is back online, here are some of the latest developments

in my attempts to recover the use of Webvisum. Thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
----- Original Message -----
From: inthane
To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost


that one you would have to take to a group, I'd ask it on both the blind
geek zone and/or the list provided by web visum I'm having some odd
difficulties with my current system and can't get web visum to run
correctly here on my main, but it loaded and ran fine on my secondary and
tertiary computers, so I don't have a good answer for you!

sorry,
inthane
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
To: inthane
Cc: webvisum-discuss@...
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 7:55 AM
Subject: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost


Webvisum sent me a new password; I logged in with the new password and
tried once again to install the plugin, but still I can't get it to
work--I get the "unavailable" message following the "install button"
prompt. Is there an issue with my system or browser security settings, or

do I actually need an invitation code in addition to the password? Do I
need to upgrade Firefox to use this copy of the plugin? Thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
----- Original Message -----
From: inthane
To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: Webvisum plugin lost


there is a spot, pardon a link where you can fill out a "request" and
get an invitation to web visum, if you remember your address and sign in
password (the same ones you input into web visum so it could automatically

sign in) you can go and download it again, I would use revo uninstaller to

pull out the old web visum, and then reinstall a new copy.

or at worst case, contact me again and I will get you an invite since I

remember both my sign in and my password

inthane
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
To: inthane ; Adrian Spratt ; Gerald Levy ; Negoslav Sabev
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:53 AM
Subject: Fw: Webvisum plugin lost


Good morning. I'm sending this to you individuals because the JFW
list seems to be down right now.
Yesterday I sent this to the Webvisum Discuss listserv and subscribed

to their mailing list, but I suspect they may be very slow to respond. If

I don't hear from them in a week or so, what do I do with Web sites that
require verification? I could try Solona but not sure if that works with
Firefox, or if it can handle captchas and images as efficiently as
Webvisum. Thanks for your feedback.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
To: webvisum-discuss@...
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 4:37 PM
Subject: Webvisum plugin lost


Hi all. Recently I've been reading some posts regarding updating to
the latest version of Firefox, and that Webvisum hadn't released an update

for that version. For some time I've been able to use it on my current
version of Firefox 3.6. Someone suggested I download a portable version
of Firefox 5 to see how it worked and whether or not Webvisum worked with
it. Another post explained a work around for accessing Webvisum with
Firefox 5.0, by going to the install.rdf file and changing the max number
from 4 to 5. I did this and saved the change, then downloaded the
portable Firefox 5, but this created an error message in Firefox 3 saying
the file wasn't well-formed or something. Webvisum not only didn't work
on the portable Firefox, but now it no longer works on Firefox version 3,
and I also deleted the install file for Webvisum and the plugin is no
longer there.
Can you suggest a way to get a new plugin for Webvisum to download
again to Firefox 3? I'm already logged in, but can't find a link to
download the plugin. I erroneously sent a request for an invitation but
discovered that's not necessary if I know my username and password.
Thanks for your assistance.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
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-----Original Message-----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:50 PM
To: jfw@...
Subject: Fw: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

Now that the list is back online, here are some of the latest developments in my attempts to recover the use of Webvisum. Thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
----- Original Message -----
From: inthane
To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost


that one you would have to take to a group, I'd ask it on both the blind geek zone and/or the list provided by web visum I'm having some odd difficulties with my current system and can't get web visum to run correctly here on my main, but it loaded and ran fine on my secondary and tertiary computers, so I don't have a good answer for you!

sorry,
inthane
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
To: inthane
Cc: webvisum-discuss@...
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 7:55 AM
Subject: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost


Webvisum sent me a new password; I logged in with the new password and tried once again to install the plugin, but still I can't get it to work--I get the "unavailable" message following the "install button" prompt. Is there an issue with my system or browser security settings, or do I actually need an invitation code in addition to the password? Do I need to upgrade Firefox to use this copy of the plugin? Thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
----- Original Message -----
From: inthane
To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: Webvisum plugin lost


there is a spot, pardon a link where you can fill out a "request" and get an invitation to web visum, if you remember your address and sign in password (the same ones you input into web visum so it could automatically sign in) you can go and download it again, I would use revo uninstaller to pull out the old web visum, and then reinstall a new copy.

or at worst case, contact me again and I will get you an invite since I remember both my sign in and my password

inthane
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
To: inthane ; Adrian Spratt ; Gerald Levy ; Negoslav Sabev
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:53 AM
Subject: Fw: Webvisum plugin lost


Good morning. I'm sending this to you individuals because the JFW list seems to be down right now.
Yesterday I sent this to the Webvisum Discuss listserv and subscribed to their mailing list, but I suspect they may be very slow to respond. If I don't hear from them in a week or so, what do I do with Web sites that require verification? I could try Solona but not sure if that works with Firefox, or if it can handle captchas and images as efficiently as Webvisum. Thanks for your feedback.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
To: webvisum-discuss@...
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 4:37 PM
Subject: Webvisum plugin lost


Hi all. Recently I've been reading some posts regarding updating to the latest version of Firefox, and that Webvisum hadn't released an update for that version. For some time I've been able to use it on my current version of Firefox 3.6. Someone suggested I download a portable version of Firefox 5 to see how it worked and whether or not Webvisum worked with it. Another post explained a work around for accessing Webvisum with Firefox 5.0, by going to the install.rdf file and changing the max number from 4 to 5. I did this and saved the change, then downloaded the portable Firefox 5, but this created an error message in Firefox 3 saying the file wasn't well-formed or something. Webvisum not only didn't work on the portable Firefox, but now it no longer works on Firefox version 3, and I also deleted the install file for Webvisum and the plugin is no longer there.
Can you suggest a way to get a new plugin for Webvisum to download again to Firefox 3? I'm already logged in, but can't find a link to download the plugin. I erroneously sent a request for an invitation but discovered that's not necessary if I know my username and password. Thanks for your assistance.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

That's a shame!!! Now what shall we do with websites that require verifying yourself to sign in or submit a comment, to verify you're a real human and not a robot? Pity the independent blind users who can't find somebody to help fill in the box or solve the captchas, or don't want to be a nuisance to people who are too busy to jump up and come to their aid!

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@...>
To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

Hi list sorry to report this but, we may not ever have it back. webvisum was disabled the other day when Firefox 5 was installed. it seems mozilla has decided that they will now release new versions of firefox every two months. the word on the NFB graphic user interface list is that webvisum will likely give up trying to update it since there is likely no way for them to ever keep up with this new timetable. Thank you mozilla for caring so much to protect the internet from us dangerous blind hackers/spammers. I wouldn't get my hopes up for a screen reader to have it built in since if they can do that, the real spammers would be able to do it to so that would defeat the whole need for capcha.

-----Original Message-----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:50 PM
To: jfw@...
Subject: Fw: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

Now that the list is back online, here are some of the latest developments in my attempts to recover the use of Webvisum. Thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
----- Original Message -----
From: inthane
To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost


that one you would have to take to a group, I'd ask it on both the blind geek zone and/or the list provided by web visum I'm having some odd difficulties with my current system and can't get web visum to run correctly here on my main, but it loaded and ran fine on my secondary and tertiary computers, so I don't have a good answer for you!

sorry,
inthane
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
To: inthane
Cc: webvisum-discuss@...
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 7:55 AM
Subject: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost


Webvisum sent me a new password; I logged in with the new password and tried once again to install the plugin, but still I can't get it to work--I get the "unavailable" message following the "install button" prompt. Is there an issue with my system or browser security settings, or do I actually need an invitation code in addition to the password? Do I need to upgrade Firefox to use this copy of the plugin? Thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
----- Original Message -----
From: inthane
To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: Webvisum plugin lost


there is a spot, pardon a link where you can fill out a "request" and get an invitation to web visum, if you remember your address and sign in password (the same ones you input into web visum so it could automatically sign in) you can go and download it again, I would use revo uninstaller to pull out the old web visum, and then reinstall a new copy.

or at worst case, contact me again and I will get you an invite since I remember both my sign in and my password

inthane
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
To: inthane ; Adrian Spratt ; Gerald Levy ; Negoslav Sabev
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:53 AM
Subject: Fw: Webvisum plugin lost


Good morning. I'm sending this to you individuals because the JFW list seems to be down right now.
Yesterday I sent this to the Webvisum Discuss listserv and subscribed to their mailing list, but I suspect they may be very slow to respond. If I don't hear from them in a week or so, what do I do with Web sites that require verification? I could try Solona but not sure if that works with Firefox, or if it can handle captchas and images as efficiently as Webvisum. Thanks for your feedback.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
To: webvisum-discuss@...
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 4:37 PM
Subject: Webvisum plugin lost


Hi all. Recently I've been reading some posts regarding updating to the latest version of Firefox, and that Webvisum hadn't released an update for that version. For some time I've been able to use it on my current version of Firefox 3.6. Someone suggested I download a portable version of Firefox 5 to see how it worked and whether or not Webvisum worked with it. Another post explained a work around for accessing Webvisum with Firefox 5.0, by going to the install.rdf file and changing the max number from 4 to 5. I did this and saved the change, then downloaded the portable Firefox 5, but this created an error message in Firefox 3 saying the file wasn't well-formed or something. Webvisum not only didn't work on the portable Firefox, but now it no longer works on Firefox version 3, and I also deleted the install file for Webvisum and the plugin is no longer there.
Can you suggest a way to get a new plugin for Webvisum to download again to Firefox 3? I'm already logged in, but can't find a link to download the plugin. I erroneously sent a request for an invitation but discovered that's not necessary if I know my username and password. Thanks for your assistance.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
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----- Original Message -----
From: "inthane" <inthaneelf@...>
To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 12:13 AM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

why the frack aren't you pummeling Firefox with this instead of weeping about it here, that's my freaking plan, gods what a bunch of whips

elf
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

That's a shame!!! Now what shall we do with websites that require verifying yourself to sign in or submit a comment, to verify you're a real human and not a robot? Pity the independent blind users who can't find somebody to help fill in the box or solve the captchas, or don't want to be a nuisance to people who are too busy to jump up and come to their aid!

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@...>
To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

Hi list sorry to report this but, we may not ever have it back. webvisum was disabled the other day when Firefox 5 was installed. it seems mozilla has decided that they will now release new versions of firefox every two months. the word on the NFB graphic user interface list is that webvisum will likely give up trying to update it since there is likely no way for them to ever keep up with this new timetable. Thank you mozilla for caring so much to protect the internet from us dangerous blind hackers/spammers. I wouldn't get my hopes up for a screen reader to have it built in since if they can do that, the real spammers would be able to do it to so that would defeat the whole need for capcha.

-----Original Message-----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:50 PM
To: jfw@...
Subject: Fw: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

Now that the list is back online, here are some of the latest developments in my attempts to recover the use of Webvisum. Thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
----- Original Message -----
From: inthane
To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost


that one you would have to take to a group, I'd ask it on both the blind geek zone and/or the list provided by web visum I'm having some odd difficulties with my current system and can't get web visum to run correctly here on my main, but it loaded and ran fine on my secondary and tertiary computers, so I don't have a good answer for you!

sorry,
inthane
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
To: inthane
Cc: webvisum-discuss@...
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 7:55 AM
Subject: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost


Webvisum sent me a new password; I logged in with the new password and tried once again to install the plugin, but still I can't get it to work--I get the "unavailable" message following the "install button" prompt. Is there an issue with my system or browser security settings, or do I actually need an invitation code in addition to the password? Do I need to upgrade Firefox to use this copy of the plugin? Thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
----- Original Message -----
From: inthane
To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: Webvisum plugin lost


there is a spot, pardon a link where you can fill out a "request" and get an invitation to web visum, if you remember your address and sign in password (the same ones you input into web visum so it could automatically sign in) you can go and download it again, I would use revo uninstaller to pull out the old web visum, and then reinstall a new copy.

or at worst case, contact me again and I will get you an invite since I remember both my sign in and my password

inthane
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
To: inthane ; Adrian Spratt ; Gerald Levy ; Negoslav Sabev
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:53 AM
Subject: Fw: Webvisum plugin lost


Good morning. I'm sending this to you individuals because the JFW list seems to be down right now.
Yesterday I sent this to the Webvisum Discuss listserv and subscribed to their mailing list, but I suspect they may be very slow to respond. If I don't hear from them in a week or so, what do I do with Web sites that require verification? I could try Solona but not sure if that works with Firefox, or if it can handle captchas and images as efficiently as Webvisum. Thanks for your feedback.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
To: webvisum-discuss@...
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 4:37 PM
Subject: Webvisum plugin lost


Hi all. Recently I've been reading some posts regarding updating to the latest version of Firefox, and that Webvisum hadn't released an update for that version. For some time I've been able to use it on my current version of Firefox 3.6. Someone suggested I download a portable version of Firefox 5 to see how it worked and whether or not Webvisum worked with it. Another post explained a work around for accessing Webvisum with Firefox 5.0, by going to the install.rdf file and changing the max number from 4 to 5. I did this and saved the change, then downloaded the portable Firefox 5, but this created an error message in Firefox 3 saying the file wasn't well-formed or something. Webvisum not only didn't work on the portable Firefox, but now it no longer works on Firefox version 3, and I also deleted the install file for Webvisum and the plugin is no longer there.
Can you suggest a way to get a new plugin for Webvisum to download again to Firefox 3? I'm already logged in, but can't find a link to download the plugin. I erroneously sent a request for an invitation but discovered that's not necessary if I know my username and password. Thanks for your assistance.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
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-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 9:17 AM
To: inthane; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

Sorry, I thought the list would have some experts to suggest possible
solutions. I found that submitting comments to Mozilla's support also
requires visual confirmation/verification, so that wouldn't help things. Is
there another blind-friendly list to discuss this with that won't take
verification to log in or post comments? Webvisum is very busy and slow to
respond. Thanks anyone.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "inthane" <inthaneelf@...>
To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>; "The Jaws for
Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 12:13 AM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

why the frack aren't you pummeling Firefox with this instead of weeping
about it here, that's my freaking plan, gods what a bunch of whips

elf
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support
list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

That's a shame!!! Now what shall we do with websites that require
verifying yourself to sign in or submit a comment, to verify you're a
real human and not a robot? Pity the independent blind users who can't
find somebody to help fill in the box or solve the captchas, or don't
want to be a nuisance to people who are too busy to jump up and come to
their aid!

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@...>
To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>; "The Jaws for
Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

Hi list sorry to report this but, we may not ever have it back.
webvisum was disabled the other day when Firefox 5 was installed. it
seems mozilla has decided that they will now release new versions of
firefox every two months. the word on the NFB graphic user interface
list is that webvisum will likely give up trying to update it since
there is likely no way for them to ever keep up with this new timetable.
Thank you mozilla for caring so much to protect the internet from us
dangerous blind hackers/spammers. I wouldn't get my hopes up for a
screen reader to have it built in since if they can do that, the real
spammers would be able to do it to so that would defeat the whole need
for capcha.

-----Original Message-----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:50 PM
To: jfw@...
Subject: Fw: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

Now that the list is back online, here are some of the latest
developments in my attempts to recover the use of Webvisum. Thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
----- Original Message -----
From: inthane
To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost


that one you would have to take to a group, I'd ask it on both the blind
geek zone and/or the list provided by web visum I'm having some odd
difficulties with my current system and can't get web visum to run
correctly here on my main, but it loaded and ran fine on my secondary
and tertiary computers, so I don't have a good answer for you!

sorry,
inthane
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
To: inthane
Cc: webvisum-discuss@...
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 7:55 AM
Subject: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost


Webvisum sent me a new password; I logged in with the new password and
tried once again to install the plugin, but still I can't get it to
work--I get the "unavailable" message following the "install button"
prompt. Is there an issue with my system or browser security settings,
or do I actually need an invitation code in addition to the password?
Do I need to upgrade Firefox to use this copy of the plugin? Thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
----- Original Message -----
From: inthane
To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: Webvisum plugin lost


there is a spot, pardon a link where you can fill out a "request" and
get an invitation to web visum, if you remember your address and sign in
password (the same ones you input into web visum so it could
automatically sign in) you can go and download it again, I would use
revo uninstaller to pull out the old web visum, and then reinstall a new
copy.

or at worst case, contact me again and I will get you an invite since
I remember both my sign in and my password

inthane
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
To: inthane ; Adrian Spratt ; Gerald Levy ; Negoslav Sabev
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:53 AM
Subject: Fw: Webvisum plugin lost


Good morning. I'm sending this to you individuals because the JFW
list seems to be down right now.
Yesterday I sent this to the Webvisum Discuss listserv and
subscribed to their mailing list, but I suspect they may be very slow to
respond. If I don't hear from them in a week or so, what do I do with
Web sites that require verification? I could try Solona but not sure if
that works with Firefox, or if it can handle captchas and images as
efficiently as Webvisum. Thanks for your feedback.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
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----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
To: webvisum-discuss@...
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 4:37 PM
Subject: Webvisum plugin lost


Hi all. Recently I've been reading some posts regarding updating
to the latest version of Firefox, and that Webvisum hadn't released an
update for that version. For some time I've been able to use it on my
current version of Firefox 3.6. Someone suggested I download a portable
version of Firefox 5 to see how it worked and whether or not Webvisum
worked with it. Another post explained a work around for accessing
Webvisum with Firefox 5.0, by going to the install.rdf file and changing
the max number from 4 to 5. I did this and saved the change, then
downloaded the portable Firefox 5, but this created an error message in
Firefox 3 saying the file wasn't well-formed or something. Webvisum not
only didn't work on the portable Firefox, but now it no longer works on
Firefox version 3, and I also deleted the install file for Webvisum and
the plugin is no longer there.
Can you suggest a way to get a new plugin for Webvisum to download
again to Firefox 3? I'm already logged in, but can't find a link to
download the plugin. I erroneously sent a request for an invitation but
discovered that's not necessary if I know my username and password.
Thanks for your assistance.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
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On Behalf Of Marsha
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 11:41 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

How can I get information on the Webvisum list? Thanks.

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On Behalf Of Marsha
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 1:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

Hi
When I clicked on the link, it said that this domain name is free. Very
interesting.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 8:26 PM
Subject: RE: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

You don't include the message you're replying to. If it's the one with the
Webvisum address, it takes me right to the Webvisum site. I just clicked on
the link I sent you. Here it is again:
www.webvisum.org

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Marsha
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 1:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

Hi
When I clicked on the link, it said that this domain name is free. Very
interesting.

Marsha


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----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 12:26 PM
Subject: RE: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost


You don't include the message you're replying to. If it's the one with the
Webvisum address, it takes me right to the Webvisum site. I just clicked on
the link I sent you. Here it is again:
www.webvisum.org

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Marsha
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 1:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

Hi
When I clicked on the link, it said that this domain name is free. Very
interesting.

Marsha


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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

Hi
When I clicked on the link, it said that this domain name is free. Very
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-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: 01 July 2011 18:05
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost


Thank goodness I still have Firefox 3.6, which I will hang onto forever, if
that's the only way I can still use Webvisum. I guess the fine folks at
Mozilla really don't give a rat's ass about accessibility.

Gerald


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124@...>
To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>; "The Jaws for
Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

Hi list sorry to report this but, we may not ever have it back. webvisum
was disabled the other day when Firefox 5 was installed. it seems mozilla

has decided that they will now release new versions of firefox every two
months. the word on the NFB graphic user interface list is that webvisum
will likely give up trying to update it since there is likely no way for
them to ever keep up with this new timetable. Thank you mozilla for
caring so much to protect the internet from us dangerous blind
hackers/spammers. I wouldn't get my hopes up for a screen reader to have
it built in since if they can do that, the real spammers would be able to
do it to so that would defeat the whole need for capcha.

-----Original Message-----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:50 PM
To: jfw@...
Subject: Fw: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost

Now that the list is back online, here are some of the latest developments

in my attempts to recover the use of Webvisum. Thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
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----- Original Message -----
From: inthane
To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost


that one you would have to take to a group, I'd ask it on both the blind
geek zone and/or the list provided by web visum I'm having some odd
difficulties with my current system and can't get web visum to run
correctly here on my main, but it loaded and ran fine on my secondary and
tertiary computers, so I don't have a good answer for you!

sorry,
inthane
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
To: inthane
Cc: webvisum-discuss@...
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 7:55 AM
Subject: cannot install/activate pluginRe: Webvisum plugin lost


Webvisum sent me a new password; I logged in with the new password and
tried once again to install the plugin, but still I can't get it to
work--I get the "unavailable" message following the "install button"
prompt. Is there an issue with my system or browser security settings, or

do I actually need an invitation code in addition to the password? Do I
need to upgrade Firefox to use this copy of the plugin? Thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
----- Original Message -----
From: inthane
To: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: Webvisum plugin lost


there is a spot, pardon a link where you can fill out a "request" and
get an invitation to web visum, if you remember your address and sign in
password (the same ones you input into web visum so it could automatically

sign in) you can go and download it again, I would use revo uninstaller to

pull out the old web visum, and then reinstall a new copy.

or at worst case, contact me again and I will get you an invite since I

remember both my sign in and my password

inthane
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
To: inthane ; Adrian Spratt ; Gerald Levy ; Negoslav Sabev
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:53 AM
Subject: Fw: Webvisum plugin lost


Good morning. I'm sending this to you individuals because the JFW
list seems to be down right now.
Yesterday I sent this to the Webvisum Discuss listserv and subscribed

to their mailing list, but I suspect they may be very slow to respond. If

I don't hear from them in a week or so, what do I do with Web sites that
require verification? I could try Solona but not sure if that works with
Firefox, or if it can handle captchas and images as efficiently as
Webvisum. Thanks for your feedback.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas Richard Dexheimer
To: webvisum-discuss@...
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 4:37 PM
Subject: Webvisum plugin lost


Hi all. Recently I've been reading some posts regarding updating to
the latest version of Firefox, and that Webvisum hadn't released an update

for that version. For some time I've been able to use it on my current
version of Firefox 3.6. Someone suggested I download a portable version
of Firefox 5 to see how it worked and whether or not Webvisum worked with
it. Another post explained a work around for accessing Webvisum with
Firefox 5.0, by going to the install.rdf file and changing the max number
from 4 to 5. I did this and saved the change, then downloaded the
portable Firefox 5, but this created an error message in Firefox 3 saying
the file wasn't well-formed or something. Webvisum not only didn't work
on the portable Firefox, but now it no longer works on Firefox version 3,
and I also deleted the install file for Webvisum and the plugin is no
longer there.
Can you suggest a way to get a new plugin for Webvisum to download
again to Firefox 3? I'm already logged in, but can't find a link to
download the plugin. I erroneously sent a request for an invitation but
discovered that's not necessary if I know my username and password.
Thanks for your assistance.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
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