Windows D or Windows M


James Malone
 

Hello all,

I was working with a client yesterday going over Jaws Keyboard commands along with windows keyboard  commands, and she told me that someone told her that it was wrong using the windows M to minimize all programs to get to the desktop, and that she should use the shortcut keys windows D as a way to get to the desktop. I also explained that she could use the   windows D or M, and that the desktop would be selected with all APPS minimize.

So in your opinion, what would you suggest?

I realize that Windows plus D for desktop is the best answer for understanding a user command to get to the desktop, but does it matter if the user is knowledgeable when it comes to computers?

James

 

http://www.cdbaby.com/jamesmalone

James Malone, (916)212-5397http://www.tunecore.com

 


WESLEY BURDEN
 

hello james:
personally it doesn’t matter to me I have used both but I seem to use the windows d a lot more then the windows m
 
wesley
 
 
 

Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:49 PM
Subject: Windows D or Windows M
 

Hello all,

I was working with a client yesterday going over Jaws Keyboard commands along with windows keyboard  commands, and she told me that someone told her that it was wrong using the windows M to minimize all programs to get to the desktop, and that she should use the shortcut keys windows D as a way to get to the desktop. I also explained that she could use the   windows D or M, and that the desktop would be selected with all APPS minimize.

So in your opinion, what would you suggest?

I realize that Windows plus D for desktop is the best answer for understanding a user command to get to the desktop, but does it matter if the user is knowledgeable when it comes to computers?

James

 

http://www.cdbaby.com/jamesmalone

James Malone, (916)212-5397http://www.tunecore.com

 


Jeanette McAllister PhD
 

They both will take you to the desktop. The biggest difference that I know of is Windows D is actually a toggle whereas Windows M is not.

 

Jeanette McAllister PhD

Assistive Technology Tutor/Support

Professional Placement Specialist

 

   

PO Box 1277

Franklin, VA 23851

Office:  757-304-5323

Mobile: 757-346-0708

www.mcallisterenterprisesusa.com

www.linkedin.com/in/mcallisterenterprisesusa

 

Member-National Employment Committee – NFB

http://employment.nfb.org/

                                                                    

Member-  Virginia State Rehabilitation Council

                 Dept for the Blind and Vision Impaired         

 

"Don't judge each day by the harvest you reap, but by the seeds you plant."

         --Robert Louis Stevenson

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of WESLEY BURDEN
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 4:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

 

hello james:

personally it doesn’t matter to me I have used both but I seem to use the windows d a lot more then the windows m

 

wesley

 

 

 

From: James Malone

Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:49 PM

Subject: Windows D or Windows M

 

Hello all,

I was working with a client yesterday going over Jaws Keyboard commands along with windows keyboard  commands, and she told me that someone told her that it was wrong using the windows M to minimize all programs to get to the desktop, and that she should use the shortcut keys windows D as a way to get to the desktop. I also explained that she could use the   windows D or M, and that the desktop would be selected with all APPS minimize.

So in your opinion, what would you suggest?

I realize that Windows plus D for desktop is the best answer for understanding a user command to get to the desktop, but does it matter if the user is knowledgeable when it comes to computers?

James

 

http://www.cdbaby.com/jamesmalone

James Malone, (916)212-5397http://www.tunecore.com

 


Les Kriegler <kriegler@...>
 

I'd suggest Windows-D because that will work on the first press. I find
that Windows-M often needs to be pressed at least twice before speech is
heard. The downside is that if you only have a Windows Key on the left side
of the keyboard, you have to cross over your hands to execute that command.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James
Malone
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Windows D or Windows M

Hello all,

I was working with a client yesterday going over Jaws Keyboard commands
along with windows keyboard commands, and she told me that someone told her
that it was wrong using the windows M to minimize all programs to get to the
desktop, and that she should use the shortcut keys windows D as a way to get
to the desktop. I also explained that she could use the windows D or M,
and that the desktop would be selected with all APPS minimize.

So in your opinion, what would you suggest?

I realize that Windows plus D for desktop is the best answer for
understanding a user command to get to the desktop, but does it matter if
the user is knowledgeable when it comes to computers?

James



http://www.cdbaby.com/jamesmalone

James Malone, (916)212-5397http://www.tunecore.com
<http://www.tunecore.com/>


James Malone
 

Yes, we covered that in the lesson as well. Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Les
Kriegler
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 10:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

I'd suggest Windows-D because that will work on the first press. I find
that Windows-M often needs to be pressed at least twice before speech is
heard. The downside is that if you only have a Windows Key on the left side
of the keyboard, you have to cross over your hands to execute that command.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James
Malone
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Windows D or Windows M

Hello all,

I was working with a client yesterday going over Jaws Keyboard commands
along with windows keyboard commands, and she told me that someone told her
that it was wrong using the windows M to minimize all programs to get to the
desktop, and that she should use the shortcut keys windows D as a way to get
to the desktop. I also explained that she could use the windows D or M,
and that the desktop would be selected with all APPS minimize.

So in your opinion, what would you suggest?

I realize that Windows plus D for desktop is the best answer for
understanding a user command to get to the desktop, but does it matter if
the user is knowledgeable when it comes to computers?

James



http://www.cdbaby.com/jamesmalone

James Malone, (916)212-5397http://www.tunecore.com
<http://www.tunecore.com/>


Michael Capelle <mcapelle@...>
 

i use both.

-----Original Message-----
From: James Malone
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 11:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Windows D or Windows M



Hello all,

I was working with a client yesterday going over Jaws Keyboard commands along with windows keyboard commands, and she told me that someone told her that it was wrong using the windows M to minimize all programs to get to the desktop, and that she should use the shortcut keys windows D as a way to get to the desktop. I also explained that she could use the windows D or M, and that the desktop would be selected with all APPS minimize.

So in your opinion, what would you suggest?

I realize that Windows plus D for desktop is the best answer for understanding a user command to get to the desktop, but does it matter if the user is knowledgeable when it comes to computers?

James



http://www.cdbaby.com/jamesmalone

James Malone, (916)212-5397http://www.tunecore.com


Robert Logue
 

I learned something new. I didn't know that Windows D is a toggle.  That is very helpful.


Thanks Jeanette.


Bob


On 5/24/2016 10:54 AM, Jeanette McAllister PhD wrote:

They both will take you to the desktop. The biggest difference that I know of is Windows D is actually a toggle whereas Windows M is not.

 

Jeanette McAllister PhD

Assistive Technology Tutor/Support

Professional Placement Specialist

 

   

PO Box 1277

Franklin, VA 23851

Office:  757-304-5323

Mobile: 757-346-0708

www.mcallisterenterprisesusa.com

www.linkedin.com/in/mcallisterenterprisesusa

 

Member-National Employment Committee – NFB

http://employment.nfb.org/

                                                                    

Member-  Virginia State Rehabilitation Council

                 Dept for the Blind and Vision Impaired         

 

"Don't judge each day by the harvest you reap, but by the seeds you plant."

         --Robert Louis Stevenson

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of WESLEY BURDEN
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 4:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

 

hello james:

personally it doesn’t matter to me I have used both but I seem to use the windows d a lot more then the windows m

 

wesley

 

 

 

From: James Malone

Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:49 PM

Subject: Windows D or Windows M

 

Hello all,

I was working with a client yesterday going over Jaws Keyboard commands along with windows keyboard  commands, and she told me that someone told her that it was wrong using the windows M to minimize all programs to get to the desktop, and that she should use the shortcut keys windows D as a way to get to the desktop. I also explained that she could use the   windows D or M, and that the desktop would be selected with all APPS minimize.

So in your opinion, what would you suggest?

I realize that Windows plus D for desktop is the best answer for understanding a user command to get to the desktop, but does it matter if the user is knowledgeable when it comes to computers?

James

 

http://www.cdbaby.com/jamesmalone

James Malone, (916)212-5397http://www.tunecore.com

 



Tom Behler
 

Me too, because up until now, I have always used Windows M to get to the desktop.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robert Logue
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 1:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

 

I learned something new. I didn't know that Windows D is a toggle.  That is very helpful.

 

Thanks Jeanette.

 

Bob

 

On 5/24/2016 10:54 AM, Jeanette McAllister PhD wrote:

They both will take you to the desktop. The biggest difference that I know of is Windows D is actually a toggle whereas Windows M is not.

 

Jeanette McAllister PhD

Assistive Technology Tutor/Support

Professional Placement Specialist

 

   

PO Box 1277

Franklin, VA 23851

Office:  757-304-5323

Mobile: 757-346-0708

www.mcallisterenterprisesusa.com

www.linkedin.com/in/mcallisterenterprisesusa

 

Member-National Employment Committee – NFB

http://employment.nfb.org/

                                                                    

Member-  Virginia State Rehabilitation Council

                 Dept for the Blind and Vision Impaired         

 

"Don't judge each day by the harvest you reap, but by the seeds you plant."

         --Robert Louis Stevenson

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of WESLEY BURDEN
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 4:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

 

hello james:

personally it doesn’t matter to me I have used both but I seem to use the windows d a lot more then the windows m

 

wesley

 

 

 

Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:49 PM

Subject: Windows D or Windows M

 

Hello all,

I was working with a client yesterday going over Jaws Keyboard commands along with windows keyboard  commands, and she told me that someone told her that it was wrong using the windows M to minimize all programs to get to the desktop, and that she should use the shortcut keys windows D as a way to get to the desktop. I also explained that she could use the   windows D or M, and that the desktop would be selected with all APPS minimize.

So in your opinion, what would you suggest?

I realize that Windows plus D for desktop is the best answer for understanding a user command to get to the desktop, but does it matter if the user is knowledgeable when it comes to computers?

James

 

http://www.cdbaby.com/jamesmalone

James Malone, (916)212-5397http://www.tunecore.com

 

 


Curtis Delzer
 

you'll discover that if you use windows 10, windows d is better and more
consistent than windows-m which just minimizes the programs which will
minimize, and put you in some reference to the desktop, but it is
problematic. :)
windows D is a toggle, in ten as well as seven, but it seems in windows
seven windows M consistently put me on the desktop where in ten it does
not reliably. :)
-----
Curtis Delzer, HS.
K6VFO
San Bernardino, CA

On Tue, 24 May 2016 13:14:24 -0400
"Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com> wrote:

Me too, because up until now, I have always used Windows M to get to the desktop.



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robert Logue
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 1:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M



I learned something new. I didn't know that Windows D is a toggle. That is very helpful.



Thanks Jeanette.



Bob



On 5/24/2016 10:54 AM, Jeanette McAllister PhD wrote:

They both will take you to the desktop. The biggest difference that I know of is Windows D is actually a toggle whereas Windows M is not.



Jeanette McAllister PhD

Assistive Technology Tutor/Support

Professional Placement Specialist





<http://www.freedomscientific.com/Certification>

PO Box 1277

Franklin, VA 23851

Office: 757-304-5323

Mobile: 757-346-0708

www.mcallisterenterprisesusa.com <http://www.mcallisterenterprisesusa.com>

www.linkedin.com/in/mcallisterenterprisesusa <http://www.linkedin.com/in/mcallisterenterprisesusa>



Member-National Employment Committee – NFB

http://employment.nfb.org/



Member- Virginia State Rehabilitation Council

Dept for the Blind and Vision Impaired



"Don't judge each day by the harvest you reap, but by the seeds you plant."

--Robert Louis Stevenson









From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of WESLEY BURDEN
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 4:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M



hello james:

personally it doesn’t matter to me I have used both but I seem to use the windows d a lot more then the windows m



wesley







From: James Malone <mailto:malone_j@comcast.net>

Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:49 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

Subject: Windows D or Windows M



Hello all,

I was working with a client yesterday going over Jaws Keyboard commands along with windows keyboard commands, and she told me that someone told her that it was wrong using the windows M to minimize all programs to get to the desktop, and that she should use the shortcut keys windows D as a way to get to the desktop. I also explained that she could use the windows D or M, and that the desktop would be selected with all APPS minimize.

So in your opinion, what would you suggest?

I realize that Windows plus D for desktop is the best answer for understanding a user command to get to the desktop, but does it matter if the user is knowledgeable when it comes to computers?

James



http://www.cdbaby.com/jamesmalone

James Malone, (916)212-5397http://www.tunecore.com <http://www.tunecore.com/>







Laura Richardson
 

I was only told to press “Windows m to go to the desktop.  I didn’t know you could press Windows d to get there which would be more difficult because I only have one Windows key on my keyboard.  I don’t know what a toggle is …… would someone please explain this to me?

 

Thank you,

Laura

  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

 

Me too, because up until now, I have always used Windows M to get to the desktop.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robert Logue
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 1:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

 

I learned something new. I didn't know that Windows D is a toggle.  That is very helpful.

 

Thanks Jeanette.

 

Bob

 

On 5/24/2016 10:54 AM, Jeanette McAllister PhD wrote:

They both will take you to the desktop. The biggest difference that I know of is Windows D is actually a toggle whereas Windows M is not.

 

Jeanette McAllister PhD

Assistive Technology Tutor/Support

Professional Placement Specialist

 

   

PO Box 1277

Franklin, VA 23851

Office:  757-304-5323

Mobile: 757-346-0708

www.mcallisterenterprisesusa.com

www.linkedin.com/in/mcallisterenterprisesusa

 

Member-National Employment Committee – NFB

http://employment.nfb.org/

                                                                    

Member-  Virginia State Rehabilitation Council

                 Dept for the Blind and Vision Impaired         

 

"Don't judge each day by the harvest you reap, but by the seeds you plant."

         --Robert Louis Stevenson

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of WESLEY BURDEN
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 4:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

 

hello james:

personally it doesn’t matter to me I have used both but I seem to use the windows d a lot more then the windows m

 

wesley

 

 

 

Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:49 PM

Subject: Windows D or Windows M

 

Hello all,

I was working with a client yesterday going over Jaws Keyboard commands along with windows keyboard  commands, and she told me that someone told her that it was wrong using the windows M to minimize all programs to get to the desktop, and that she should use the shortcut keys windows D as a way to get to the desktop. I also explained that she could use the   windows D or M, and that the desktop would be selected with all APPS minimize.

So in your opinion, what would you suggest?

I realize that Windows plus D for desktop is the best answer for understanding a user command to get to the desktop, but does it matter if the user is knowledgeable when it comes to computers?

James

 

http://www.cdbaby.com/jamesmalone

James Malone, (916)212-5397http://www.tunecore.com

 

 


Nicole Massey <nyyki@...>
 

Windows M minimizes all opened programs, while Windows D minimizes
everything, including programs in the system tray. This will also minimize
"always on top" programs. The person who told your client to never use
Windows M and to always use Windows D gave misinformation, as there are
specific times when either one is useful. But in most cases Windows M does
what's needed.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James
Malone
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 11:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Windows D or Windows M

Hello all,

I was working with a client yesterday going over Jaws Keyboard commands
along with windows keyboard commands, and she told me that someone told her
that it was wrong using the windows M to minimize all programs to get to the
desktop, and that she should use the shortcut keys windows D as a way to get
to the desktop. I also explained that she could use the windows D or M,
and that the desktop would be selected with all APPS minimize.

So in your opinion, what would you suggest?

I realize that Windows plus D for desktop is the best answer for
understanding a user command to get to the desktop, but does it matter if
the user is knowledgeable when it comes to computers?

James



http://www.cdbaby.com/jamesmalone

James Malone, (916)212-5397http://www.tunecore.com
<http://www.tunecore.com/>


Maria Campbell
 

Thanks for the good information on the differences.

I've experienced no issues using Windows M on my w10 machine.


Maria Campbell
lucky1@...

When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.
--Attributer to Jimmi Hendrix
On 5/24/2016 1:31 PM, Nicole Massey wrote:

Windows M minimizes all opened programs, while Windows D minimizes
everything, including programs in the system tray. This will also minimize
"always on top" programs. The person who told your client to never use
Windows M and to always use Windows D gave misinformation, as there are
specific times when either one is useful. But in most cases Windows M does
what's needed.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James
Malone
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 11:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Windows D or Windows M

Hello all,

I was working with a client yesterday going over Jaws Keyboard commands
along with windows keyboard  commands, and she told me that someone told her
that it was wrong using the windows M to minimize all programs to get to the
desktop, and that she should use the shortcut keys windows D as a way to get
to the desktop. I also explained that she could use the   windows D or M,
and that the desktop would be selected with all APPS minimize.

So in your opinion, what would you suggest?

I realize that Windows plus D for desktop is the best answer for
understanding a user command to get to the desktop, but does it matter if
the user is knowledgeable when it comes to computers?

James

 

http://www.cdbaby.com/jamesmalone

James Malone, (916)212-5397http://www.tunecore.com
<http://www.tunecore.com/> 

 








Les Kriegler <kriegler@...>
 

Laura, a toggle means that you switch the option on and off when you press the same keystroke. Another way to explain this is to state that as you press the key, it cycles you through all of the available options.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 1:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

I was only told to press “Windows m to go to the desktop. I didn’t know you could press Windows d to get there which would be more difficult because I only have one Windows key on my keyboard. I don’t know what a toggle is …… would someone please explain this to me?



Thank you,

Laura





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M



Me too, because up until now, I have always used Windows M to get to the desktop.



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan





From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robert Logue
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 1:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M



I learned something new. I didn't know that Windows D is a toggle. That is very helpful.



Thanks Jeanette.



Bob



On 5/24/2016 10:54 AM, Jeanette McAllister PhD wrote:

They both will take you to the desktop. The biggest difference that I know of is Windows D is actually a toggle whereas Windows M is not.



Jeanette McAllister PhD

Assistive Technology Tutor/Support

Professional Placement Specialist





<http://www.freedomscientific.com/Certification>

PO Box 1277

Franklin, VA 23851

Office: 757-304-5323

Mobile: 757-346-0708

www.mcallisterenterprisesusa.com <http://www.mcallisterenterprisesusa.com>

www.linkedin.com/in/mcallisterenterprisesusa <http://www.linkedin.com/in/mcallisterenterprisesusa>



Member-National Employment Committee – NFB

http://employment.nfb.org/



Member- Virginia State Rehabilitation Council

Dept for the Blind and Vision Impaired



"Don't judge each day by the harvest you reap, but by the seeds you plant."

--Robert Louis Stevenson









From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of WESLEY BURDEN
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 4:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M



hello james:

personally it doesn’t matter to me I have used both but I seem to use the windows d a lot more then the windows m



wesley







From: James Malone <mailto:malone_j@comcast.net>

Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:49 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

Subject: Windows D or Windows M



Hello all,

I was working with a client yesterday going over Jaws Keyboard commands along with windows keyboard commands, and she told me that someone told her that it was wrong using the windows M to minimize all programs to get to the desktop, and that she should use the shortcut keys windows D as a way to get to the desktop. I also explained that she could use the windows D or M, and that the desktop would be selected with all APPS minimize.

So in your opinion, what would you suggest?

I realize that Windows plus D for desktop is the best answer for understanding a user command to get to the desktop, but does it matter if the user is knowledgeable when it comes to computers?

James



http://www.cdbaby.com/jamesmalone

James Malone, (916)212-5397http://www.tunecore.com <http://www.tunecore.com/>


Londa Peterson
 

 6 in one, half dozen in the other.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Malone
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Windows D or Windows M

 

Hello all,

I was working with a client yesterday going over Jaws Keyboard commands along with windows keyboard  commands, and she told me that someone told her that it was wrong using the windows M to minimize all programs to get to the desktop, and that she should use the shortcut keys windows D as a way to get to the desktop. I also explained that she could use the   windows D or M, and that the desktop would be selected with all APPS minimize.

So in your opinion, what would you suggest?

I realize that Windows plus D for desktop is the best answer for understanding a user command to get to the desktop, but does it matter if the user is knowledgeable when it comes to computers?

James

 

http://www.cdbaby.com/jamesmalone

James Malone, (916)212-5397http://www.tunecore.com

 


Angel
 

windows b is the shortcut key to get one to the system trey, not to the desktop.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:49 PM
Subject: Windows D or Windows M

Hello all,

I was working with a client yesterday going over Jaws Keyboard commands along with windows keyboard  commands, and she told me that someone told her that it was wrong using the windows M to minimize all programs to get to the desktop, and that she should use the shortcut keys windows D as a way to get to the desktop. I also explained that she could use the   windows D or M, and that the desktop would be selected with all APPS minimize.

So in your opinion, what would you suggest?

I realize that Windows plus D for desktop is the best answer for understanding a user command to get to the desktop, but does it matter if the user is knowledgeable when it comes to computers?

James

 

http://www.cdbaby.com/jamesmalone

James Malone, (916)212-5397http://www.tunecore.com

 


Angel
 


I misunderstood the shortcut referred to.  For which I apologize.  Please accept my apology.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

They both will take you to the desktop. The biggest difference that I know of is Windows D is actually a toggle whereas Windows M is not.

 

Jeanette McAllister PhD

Assistive Technology Tutor/Support

Professional Placement Specialist

 

   

PO Box 1277

Franklin, VA 23851

Office:  757-304-5323

Mobile: 757-346-0708

www.mcallisterenterprisesusa.com

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of WESLEY BURDEN
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 4:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

 

hello james:

personally it doesn’t matter to me I have used both but I seem to use the windows d a lot more then the windows m

 

wesley

 

 

 

From: James Malone

Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:49 PM

Subject: Windows D or Windows M

 

Hello all,

I was working with a client yesterday going over Jaws Keyboard commands along with windows keyboard  commands, and she told me that someone told her that it was wrong using the windows M to minimize all programs to get to the desktop, and that she should use the shortcut keys windows D as a way to get to the desktop. I also explained that she could use the   windows D or M, and that the desktop would be selected with all APPS minimize.

So in your opinion, what would you suggest?

I realize that Windows plus D for desktop is the best answer for understanding a user command to get to the desktop, but does it matter if the user is knowledgeable when it comes to computers?

James

 

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James Malone
 

Thanks for all the responses. Although I only use the Windows M, I always leave that choice up to my clients. This is especially with older versions of Jaws.

Because I’m right handed, and sometimes I forget there is a windows key on the right. I started with a older keyboard that had the control escape key. Dateing myself (lol).

James

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 10:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

 

Thanks for the good information on the differences.

I've experienced no issues using Windows M on my w10 machine.

 

Maria Campbell
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On 5/24/2016 1:31 PM, Nicole Massey wrote:

Windows M minimizes all opened programs, while Windows D minimizes
everything, including programs in the system tray. This will also minimize
"always on top" programs. The person who told your client to never use
Windows M and to always use Windows D gave misinformation, as there are
specific times when either one is useful. But in most cases Windows M does
what's needed.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James
Malone
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 11:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Windows D or Windows M
 
Hello all,
 
I was working with a client yesterday going over Jaws Keyboard commands
along with windows keyboard  commands, and she told me that someone told her
that it was wrong using the windows M to minimize all programs to get to the
desktop, and that she should use the shortcut keys windows D as a way to get
to the desktop. I also explained that she could use the   windows D or M,
and that the desktop would be selected with all APPS minimize.
 
So in your opinion, what would you suggest?
 
I realize that Windows plus D for desktop is the best answer for
understanding a user command to get to the desktop, but does it matter if
the user is knowledgeable when it comes to computers?
 
James
 
 
 
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James Malone, (916)212-5397http://www.tunecore.com
<http://www.tunecore.com/> 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 


Lois
 

Think of it as like the old light switches that you flipped up to turn the light on and flipped it down to turn the light off.  This is a toggle.  If you press a key or key combination to accomplish a task, press it again and it stops whatever it is.

Hope this helps.

Lois Goodine.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 10:29 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

 

I was only told to press “Windows m to go to the desktop.  I didn’t know you could press Windows d to get there which would be more difficult because I only have one Windows key on my keyboard.  I don’t know what a toggle is …… would someone please explain this to me?

 

Thank you,

Laura

  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

 

Me too, because up until now, I have always used Windows M to get to the desktop.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robert Logue
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 1:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

 

I learned something new. I didn't know that Windows D is a toggle.  That is very helpful.

 

Thanks Jeanette.

 

Bob

 

On 5/24/2016 10:54 AM, Jeanette McAllister PhD wrote:

They both will take you to the desktop. The biggest difference that I know of is Windows D is actually a toggle whereas Windows M is not.

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of WESLEY BURDEN
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 4:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

 

hello james:

personally it doesn’t matter to me I have used both but I seem to use the windows d a lot more then the windows m

 

wesley

 

 

 

From: James Malone

Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:49 PM

Subject: Windows D or Windows M

 

Hello all,

I was working with a client yesterday going over Jaws Keyboard commands along with windows keyboard  commands, and she told me that someone told her that it was wrong using the windows M to minimize all programs to get to the desktop, and that she should use the shortcut keys windows D as a way to get to the desktop. I also explained that she could use the   windows D or M, and that the desktop would be selected with all APPS minimize.

So in your opinion, what would you suggest?

I realize that Windows plus D for desktop is the best answer for understanding a user command to get to the desktop, but does it matter if the user is knowledgeable when it comes to computers?

James

 

http://www.cdbaby.com/jamesmalone

James Malone, (916)212-5397http://www.tunecore.com

 

 


James Malone
 

Thank you Nicole,
This was one of the first things I was taught when I first started learning
computers back in the day. Although both work, I've always used windows M.
Thanks again.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nicole
Massey
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 10:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

Windows M minimizes all opened programs, while Windows D minimizes
everything, including programs in the system tray. This will also minimize
"always on top" programs. The person who told your client to never use
Windows M and to always use Windows D gave misinformation, as there are
specific times when either one is useful. But in most cases Windows M does
what's needed.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James
Malone
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 11:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Windows D or Windows M

Hello all,

I was working with a client yesterday going over Jaws Keyboard commands
along with windows keyboard commands, and she told me that someone told her
that it was wrong using the windows M to minimize all programs to get to the
desktop, and that she should use the shortcut keys windows D as a way to get
to the desktop. I also explained that she could use the windows D or M,
and that the desktop would be selected with all APPS minimize.

So in your opinion, what would you suggest?

I realize that Windows plus D for desktop is the best answer for
understanding a user command to get to the desktop, but does it matter if
the user is knowledgeable when it comes to computers?

James



http://www.cdbaby.com/jamesmalone

James Malone, (916)212-5397http://www.tunecore.com
<http://www.tunecore.com/>


Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

They are saying Windows D, not Windows B. Windows B takes you to the system Tray. Windows D as in Dog, takes you to the desktop and back again if pressed again.
----- Original Message -----
From: Angel
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

windows b is the shortcut key to get one to the system trey, not to the desktop.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:49 PM
Subject: Windows D or Windows M

Hello all,

I was working with a client yesterday going over Jaws Keyboard commands along with windows keyboard  commands, and she told me that someone told her that it was wrong using the windows M to minimize all programs to get to the desktop, and that she should use the shortcut keys windows D as a way to get to the desktop. I also explained that she could use the   windows D or M, and that the desktop would be selected with all APPS minimize.

So in your opinion, what would you suggest?

I realize that Windows plus D for desktop is the best answer for understanding a user command to get to the desktop, but does it matter if the user is knowledgeable when it comes to computers?

James

 

http://www.cdbaby.com/jamesmalone

James Malone, (916)212-5397http://www.tunecore.com

 



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