moderated Jaws losing focus
Steve Nutt
No, but if you do it from your desktop, it will be global.
All the best
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 15 April 2018 18:49 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws losing focus
Thanks, I was looking for it in the main Settings, Jaws Key+6. Apparently this only applies to specific applications because typing “focus” in the search box in the main Settings Centre does not find such an option.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Hi Sieghard,
While in any application open Jaws quick settings with, Jaws key + V, type, focus, into the Search field, or down arrow to the, Focus loss announcement, checkbox. Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers! ----- Original Message ----- From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 9:33 AM Subject: Re: Jaws losing focus
How do you turn it off?
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Steve Nutt
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Verbosity, General, Focus Loss Announcement, uncheck it. All the best Steve
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: 15 April 2018 17:33 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws losing focus How do you turn it off? -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 8:32 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws losing focus Hi, Val. Here's what I do concerning the Lost Focus message. I turn it on for specific applications. I have it off for the Windows configuration, which is what loads when the system first boots up. I keep the Lost Focus message on for any application that requires editing, such as Notepad, Word, Wordpad, HJPad, Outlook, Internet Explorer, etc. This way, if I'm attempting to stay in an edit field, and the window loses focus, I won't waste my time typing into a non-focused window without an edit field. Bill White billwhite92701@... -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 8:25 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws losing focus Exactly. You don't even need the message, because you know it loses focus every time you boot up. But it is a personal choice, if you like extra babble, leave it on. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Walls Sent: 13 April 2018 16:38 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws losing focus Val, don't worry about the lack of focus message. My JAWS gives the same message when I turn on the computer and I just press my shortcut keys to open my email and go into Word. Have a happy day. Don
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Steve Nutt
No, it doesn't hurt anyone or anything, it's just annoying unnecessary babble most of the time.
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All the best Steve
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario Sent: 15 April 2018 16:43 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws losing focus yes, but I think it saves frustration if it wasn't. anyway, I don't understand what's the big deal? it doesn't hurt anything to leave it on, does it? -------- Original Message -------- From: Steve Nutt [mailto:steve@...] Sent: Sunday, Apr 15, 2018 11:23 AM EST To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Jaws losing focus Hi, You don't need it on, if you're an experienced JAWS user, because you type, then check. If JAWS loses focus, it will speak the newly activated window usually. It never loses focus completely when you're in an app in my experience. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario Sent: 13 April 2018 15:22 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws losing focus I would think it would be helpful to leave the announcement on because, say, you're typing away on a reply to an email and suddenly JAWS looses focus on the window where you're typing a reply. if the announcement is turned off, much of what you typed might not make it into the reply (or whatever you're doing). apply a similar situation to typing a letter in Word or a note in Notepad, etc. -------- Original Message -------- From: Val Paul [mailto:vpcara79@...] Sent: Friday, Apr 13, 2018 9:38 AM EST To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Jaws losing focus Hi Dan! I have unactivatated in the verbosity menue the button which gives out that message, and everything seems to be fine. This system is only a few months old. Thanks. Val. On 13/04/2018 14:20, Dan Longmore wrote: This should not occur at start up. Sometimes JAWS loses focus after working with one window and shifting to another but at start up is unusual in my opinion unless you have older system or programs that take long time to load. Also, JAWS is good at losing focus while working. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Val Paul Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 11:18 PM To: main <main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: Jaws losing focus Hi Everyone! Hope someone can help! Everyone time i turn on my computer after the start up, Jaws keeps anouncing "Losing focus" Is there any way this can be rectified? Val. . .
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Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
Press INSERT plus V. In the search box that comes up, type Focus. The result which comes up will be Focus Loss Announcement. Space once to turn it off. TAB to OK, and press ENTER. It will now be off.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 9:33 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws losing focus How do you turn it off? -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 8:32 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws losing focus Hi, Val. Here's what I do concerning the Lost Focus message. I turn it on for specific applications. I have it off for the Windows configuration, which is what loads when the system first boots up. I keep the Lost Focus message on for any application that requires editing, such as Notepad, Word, Wordpad, HJPad, Outlook, Internet Explorer, etc. This way, if I'm attempting to stay in an edit field, and the window loses focus, I won't waste my time typing into a non-focused window without an edit field. Bill White billwhite92701@... -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 8:25 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws losing focus Exactly. You don't even need the message, because you know it loses focus every time you boot up. But it is a personal choice, if you like extra babble, leave it on. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Walls Sent: 13 April 2018 16:38 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws losing focus Val, don't worry about the lack of focus message. My JAWS gives the same message when I turn on the computer and I just press my shortcut keys to open my email and go into Word. Have a happy day. Don
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Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
Thanks, I was looking for it in the main Settings, Jaws Key+6. Apparently this only applies to specific applications because typing “focus” in the search box in the main Settings Centre does not find such an option.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Mike B.
Hi Sieghard,
While in any application open Jaws quick settings with, Jaws key + V, type, focus, into the Search field, or down arrow to the, Focus loss announcement, checkbox. Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers!
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From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 9:33 AM Subject: Re: Jaws losing focus
How do you turn it off?
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Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
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Hi Sieghard,
While in any application
open Jaws quick settings with, Jaws key + V, type, focus, into the Search
field, or down arrow to the, Focus loss announcement, checkbox.
Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers! Sennt from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
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From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 9:33 AM
Subject: Re: Jaws losing focus -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 8:32 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws losing focus Hi, Val. Here's what I do concerning the Lost Focus message. I turn it on for specific applications. I have it off for the Windows configuration, which is what loads when the system first boots up. I keep the Lost Focus message on for any application that requires editing, such as Notepad, Word, Wordpad, HJPad, Outlook, Internet Explorer, etc. This way, if I'm attempting to stay in an edit field, and the window loses focus, I won't waste my time typing into a non-focused window without an edit field. Bill White billwhite92701@... -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 8:25 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws losing focus Exactly. You don't even need the message, because you know it loses focus every time you boot up. But it is a personal choice, if you like extra babble, leave it on. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Walls Sent: 13 April 2018 16:38 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws losing focus Val, don't worry about the lack of focus message. My JAWS gives the same message when I turn on the computer and I just press my shortcut keys to open my email and go into Word. Have a happy day. Don
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Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
I think it very much depends on the computer. I just set up 4 PC's at my store with Windows 10, 2 were new HP Elite Mini Business PC's which came with Windows 7 preinstalled via downgrade rights, but in any case, I replace their 500MB conventional hard drives with SSD's, the other 2 were Intel NUC mini PC's also with SSD's. Anyhow, I did complete clean installs of Windows 10 including deleting the partitions and recreating them and all of these systems go straight to the desktop after I put in my password and Jaws loads.
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Regards, Sieghard
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 8:21 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws losing focus Hi Val, Actually, if you boot up to Windows then immediately press JAWS key and T, you get Lost Focus, so I believe Dan is wrong in this. If you press any key after boot up, then focus is sometimes regained. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Val Paul Sent: 13 April 2018 14:38 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws losing focus Hi Dan! I have unactivatated in the verbosity menue the button which gives out that message, and everything seems to be fine. This system is only a few months old. Thanks. Val. On 13/04/2018 14:20, Dan Longmore wrote: This should not occur at start up. Sometimes JAWS loses focus after working with one window and shifting to another but at start up is unusual in my opinion unless you have older system or programs that take long time to load. Also, JAWS is good at losing focus while working.
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Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
How do you turn it off?
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 8:32 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws losing focus Hi, Val. Here's what I do concerning the Lost Focus message. I turn it on for specific applications. I have it off for the Windows configuration, which is what loads when the system first boots up. I keep the Lost Focus message on for any application that requires editing, such as Notepad, Word, Wordpad, HJPad, Outlook, Internet Explorer, etc. This way, if I'm attempting to stay in an edit field, and the window loses focus, I won't waste my time typing into a non-focused window without an edit field. Bill White billwhite92701@... -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 8:25 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws losing focus Exactly. You don't even need the message, because you know it loses focus every time you boot up. But it is a personal choice, if you like extra babble, leave it on. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Walls Sent: 13 April 2018 16:38 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws losing focus Val, don't worry about the lack of focus message. My JAWS gives the same message when I turn on the computer and I just press my shortcut keys to open my email and go into Word. Have a happy day. Don
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Mario
yes, but I think it saves frustration if it wasn't. anyway, I don't
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understand what's the big deal? it doesn't hurt anything to leave it on, does it?
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From: Steve Nutt [mailto:steve@...] Sent: Sunday, Apr 15, 2018 11:23 AM EST To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Jaws losing focus Hi, You don't need it on, if you're an experienced JAWS user, because you type, then check. If JAWS loses focus, it will speak the newly activated window usually. It never loses focus completely when you're in an app in my experience. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario Sent: 13 April 2018 15:22 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws losing focus I would think it would be helpful to leave the announcement on because, say, you're typing away on a reply to an email and suddenly JAWS looses focus on the window where you're typing a reply. if the announcement is turned off, much of what you typed might not make it into the reply (or whatever you're doing). apply a similar situation to typing a letter in Word or a note in Notepad, etc. -------- Original Message -------- From: Val Paul [mailto:vpcara79@...] Sent: Friday, Apr 13, 2018 9:38 AM EST To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Jaws losing focus Hi Dan! I have unactivatated in the verbosity menue the button which gives out that message, and everything seems to be fine. This system is only a few months old. Thanks. Val. On 13/04/2018 14:20, Dan Longmore wrote: This should not occur at start up. Sometimes JAWS loses focus after working with one window and shifting to another but at start up is unusual in my opinion unless you have older system or programs that take long time to load. Also, JAWS is good at losing focus while working. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Val Paul Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 11:18 PM To: main <main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: Jaws losing focus Hi Everyone! Hope someone can help! Everyone time i turn on my computer after the start up, Jaws keeps anouncing "Losing focus" Is there any way this can be rectified? Val. . .
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Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
Hi, Val. Here's what I do concerning the Lost Focus message. I turn it on for specific applications. I have it off for the Windows configuration, which is what loads when the system first boots up. I keep the Lost Focus message on for any application that requires editing, such as Notepad, Word, Wordpad, HJPad, Outlook, Internet Explorer, etc. This way, if I'm attempting to stay in an edit field, and the window loses focus, I won't waste my time typing into a non-focused window without an edit field.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 8:25 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws losing focus Exactly. You don't even need the message, because you know it loses focus every time you boot up. But it is a personal choice, if you like extra babble, leave it on. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Walls Sent: 13 April 2018 16:38 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws losing focus Val, don't worry about the lack of focus message. My JAWS gives the same message when I turn on the computer and I just press my shortcut keys to open my email and go into Word. Have a happy day. Don
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Steve Nutt
Exactly. You don't even need the message, because you know it loses focus every time you boot up.
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But it is a personal choice, if you like extra babble, leave it on. All the best Steve
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Walls Sent: 13 April 2018 16:38 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws losing focus Val, don't worry about the lack of focus message. My JAWS gives the same message when I turn on the computer and I just press my shortcut keys to open my email and go into Word. Have a happy day. Don
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Steve Nutt
No, I am totally blind. I believe Val may have been talking about me. All it is, is babble.
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All the best Steve
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario Sent: 13 April 2018 16:08 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws losing focus Val, just curious, the guy that told you to turn the announcement off, is he truly blind or can he see enough to get by with magnification to use his computer, and does he have a fix to prevent this issue from happening? again, I recommend not to turn it off for the reason I posted. FS put this feature in because blind users have in the past complained about JAWS occasionally loosing focus on the program they were typing in, which makes cense since you'd want to know so they can continue with what they were doing instead of wondering what happened to all of my work. just trying to offer some advice. -------- Original Message -------- From: Val Paul [mailto:vpcara79@...] Sent: Friday, Apr 13, 2018 10:43 AM EST To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Jaws losing focus Hi Carolyn! A guy who is totally blind, and works with computers told me to turn the anouncement off, so i have. While i'm on, bought a Logitech bluetooth keyboard for my fire tablet as i'm not getting on very well with the touch screen. The thing is, now i can't get a list of the key strokes anywhere. Do you happen to know of anyone who may have them? If you do, you could maybe send them to me. Thanks. Val. On 13/04/2018 15:27, Carolyn Arnold wrote: I don't think so, Val, just a nuisance that I never heard of until a couple of years ago. Best regards, Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Val Paul Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 11:18 PM To: main <main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: Jaws losing focus Hi Everyone! Hope someone can help! Everyone time i turn on my computer after the start up, Jaws keeps anouncing "Losing focus" Is there any way this can be rectified? Val. .
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Steve Nutt
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Val, it's one of those personal choice things. Turn it off if it annoys you. It certainly annoys the heck out of me. You really don't need it, unless your computer loses focus all the time. And yes, I am totally blind. All the best Steve
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Val Paul Sent: 13 April 2018 15:44 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws losing focus Hi Carolyn! A guy who is totally blind, and works with computers told me to turn the anouncement off, so i have. While i'm on, bought a Logitech bluetooth keyboard for my fire tablet as i'm not getting on very well with the touch screen. The thing is, now i can't get a list of the key strokes anywhere. Do you happen to know of anyone who may have them? If you do, you could maybe send them to me. Thanks. Val. On 13/04/2018 15:27, Carolyn Arnold wrote: I don't think so, Val, just a nuisance that I never heard of until a couple of years ago.
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Steve Nutt
Hi,
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You don't need it on, if you're an experienced JAWS user, because you type, then check. If JAWS loses focus, it will speak the newly activated window usually. It never loses focus completely when you're in an app in my experience. All the best Steve
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario Sent: 13 April 2018 15:22 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws losing focus I would think it would be helpful to leave the announcement on because, say, you're typing away on a reply to an email and suddenly JAWS looses focus on the window where you're typing a reply. if the announcement is turned off, much of what you typed might not make it into the reply (or whatever you're doing). apply a similar situation to typing a letter in Word or a note in Notepad, etc. -------- Original Message -------- From: Val Paul [mailto:vpcara79@...] Sent: Friday, Apr 13, 2018 9:38 AM EST To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Jaws losing focus Hi Dan! I have unactivatated in the verbosity menue the button which gives out that message, and everything seems to be fine. This system is only a few months old. Thanks. Val. On 13/04/2018 14:20, Dan Longmore wrote: This should not occur at start up. Sometimes JAWS loses focus after working with one window and shifting to another but at start up is unusual in my opinion unless you have older system or programs that take long time to load. Also, JAWS is good at losing focus while working. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Val Paul Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 11:18 PM To: main <main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: Jaws losing focus Hi Everyone! Hope someone can help! Everyone time i turn on my computer after the start up, Jaws keeps anouncing "Losing focus" Is there any way this can be rectified? Val. .
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Steve Nutt
Hi Val,
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Actually, if you boot up to Windows then immediately press JAWS key and T, you get Lost Focus, so I believe Dan is wrong in this. If you press any key after boot up, then focus is sometimes regained. All the best Steve
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Val Paul Sent: 13 April 2018 14:38 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws losing focus Hi Dan! I have unactivatated in the verbosity menue the button which gives out that message, and everything seems to be fine. This system is only a few months old. Thanks. Val. On 13/04/2018 14:20, Dan Longmore wrote: This should not occur at start up. Sometimes JAWS loses focus after working with one window and shifting to another but at start up is unusual in my opinion unless you have older system or programs that take long time to load. Also, JAWS is good at losing focus while working.
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Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
Press JAWS KEY A, and then try any keys or key combinations. JAWS will announce if they have any purpose.
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Best regards, Carolyn
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Val Paul Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 10:44 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws losing focus Hi Carolyn! A guy who is totally blind, and works with computers told me to turn the anouncement off, so i have. While i'm on, bought a Logitech bluetooth keyboard for my fire tablet as i'm not getting on very well with the touch screen. The thing is, now i can't get a list of the key strokes anywhere. Do you happen to know of anyone who may have them? If you do, you could maybe send them to me. Thanks. Val. On 13/04/2018 15:27, Carolyn Arnold wrote: I don't think so, Val, just a nuisance that I never heard of until a couple of years ago.
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Val Paul
Hi!
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I know you are, and i appreciate that. The guy actually posted that advice to the list, and it just so happened when i heard his name i knew him! As far as i know, he's totally blind. He has a business over her in the uk. If you look at the post for around 8 a.m or thereabouts you'll see his name. I don't want to say too much don't want it coming back on me. Thanks again. Val.
On 13/04/2018 16:07, Mario wrote:
Val, just curious, the guy that told you to turn the announcement off,
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Don Walls
Val, don't worry about the lack of focus message. My JAWS gives the same message when I turn on the computer and I just press my shortcut keys to open my email and go into Word.
Have a happy day. Don
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Mario
Val, just curious, the guy that told you to turn the announcement off,
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is he truly blind or can he see enough to get by with magnification to use his computer, and does he have a fix to prevent this issue from happening? again, I recommend not to turn it off for the reason I posted. FS put this feature in because blind users have in the past complained about JAWS occasionally loosing focus on the program they were typing in, which makes cense since you'd want to know so they can continue with what they were doing instead of wondering what happened to all of my work. just trying to offer some advice.
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From: Val Paul [mailto:vpcara79@...] Sent: Friday, Apr 13, 2018 10:43 AM EST To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Jaws losing focus Hi Carolyn! A guy who is totally blind, and works with computers told me to turn the anouncement off, so i have. While i'm on, bought a Logitech bluetooth keyboard for my fire tablet as i'm not getting on very well with the touch screen. The thing is, now i can't get a list of the key strokes anywhere. Do you happen to know of anyone who may have them? If you do, you could maybe send them to me. Thanks. Val. On 13/04/2018 15:27, Carolyn Arnold wrote: I don't think so, Val, just a nuisance that I never heard of until a couple of years ago. Best regards, Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Val Paul Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 11:18 PM To: main <main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: Jaws losing focus Hi Everyone! Hope someone can help! Everyone time i turn on my computer after the start up, Jaws keeps anouncing "Losing focus" Is there any way this can be rectified? Val. .
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Val Paul
It's not saying it when i'm on desktop or in a program.
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On 13/04/2018 15:32, Carolyn Arnold wrote:
That is exactly why I do not intend to turn it off.
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