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moderated Re: Irritating problems with JAWS 2018

Maria Campbell
 

I humbly apologize and consider myself spanked with a wet noodle for my shortcuts of the JAWS version, which probably confused no one.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@gmail.com

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.

On 9/21/2019 11:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
He was talking about Jaws 2018 not 18 and there is no 19 or 20, just 2019 and 2020. I know you probably mean that, but 18 and 2018 is certainly potentially confusing and going forward I think it is better to use the proper version designations.
I know there is the old argument about the affordability of Jaws, but I never really understood how once somebody had Jaws initially they could not afford the $5 a month which an SMA effectively costs. I think the problem is that people have to pay $120 every 2 years and it is more of a budgeting issue, they probably wouldn't have any issue with $5/month, but can't come up with $120 as a lumpsum because they don't budget. In any case, just as Windows 10 nowadays gets 2 major updates a year and older versions go out of support relatively quickly, I think it is absolutely important that if you are a Jaws user to also use the most current version of Jaws if you want the best experience.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2019 7:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Irritating problems with JAWS 2018

I didn't have any focus problems with 18 that I recall, but I sure do with 19 now.  That's why I'm trying out the 20 beta.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@gmail.com

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.

On 9/21/2019 10:23 AM, Dan Longmore wrote:
Hi,
Sorry I can't help with the first but I can tell you that 2018 did have a lot of trouble with losing focus. A JAWS re boot at times fixed the problem for a time. Tabbing away and coming back is annoying but works. So far the issue is much less, if at all, in 2019. Yes, Freedom was aware of the issue.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of turab chimthanawala
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2019 12:27 AM
To: jfw <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Irritating problems with JAWS 2018

Dear all,
I use JAWS 2018 on a Win 10 machine. I am pissed off due to the following issues.
1. When Jaws is on, I can often use "g". While I know that there is some shortcut Windows + g for game bar: I continually have to turn that off. Any way to get rid of it permanently?
2. Jaws often loses focus while I am on the net. I have to press Alt + Tab twice to get the focus back.

Eagerly await solutions for these.

Thanks
Best
Turab









moderated Re: Irritating problems with JAWS 2018

 

He was talking about Jaws 2018 not 18 and there is no 19 or 20, just 2019 and 2020. I know you probably mean that, but 18 and 2018 is certainly potentially confusing and going forward I think it is better to use the proper version designations.
I know there is the old argument about the affordability of Jaws, but I never really understood how once somebody had Jaws initially they could not afford the $5 a month which an SMA effectively costs. I think the problem is that people have to pay $120 every 2 years and it is more of a budgeting issue, they probably wouldn't have any issue with $5/month, but can't come up with $120 as a lumpsum because they don't budget. In any case, just as Windows 10 nowadays gets 2 major updates a year and older versions go out of support relatively quickly, I think it is absolutely important that if you are a Jaws user to also use the most current version of Jaws if you want the best experience.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2019 7:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Irritating problems with JAWS 2018

I didn't have any focus problems with 18 that I recall, but I sure do with 19 now.  That's why I'm trying out the 20 beta.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@gmail.com

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.

On 9/21/2019 10:23 AM, Dan Longmore wrote:
Hi,
Sorry I can't help with the first but I can tell you that 2018 did have a lot of trouble with losing focus. A JAWS re boot at times fixed the problem for a time. Tabbing away and coming back is annoying but works. So far the issue is much less, if at all, in 2019. Yes, Freedom was aware of the issue.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of turab chimthanawala
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2019 12:27 AM
To: jfw <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Irritating problems with JAWS 2018

Dear all,
I use JAWS 2018 on a Win 10 machine. I am pissed off due to the following issues.
1. When Jaws is on, I can often use "g". While I know that there is some shortcut Windows + g for game bar: I continually have to turn that off. Any way to get rid of it permanently?
2. Jaws often loses focus while I am on the net. I have to press Alt + Tab twice to get the focus back.

Eagerly await solutions for these.

Thanks
Best
Turab







moderated Re: Operating System unassisted install

John Covici
 

Yes, after the cd gbgoots up, you should be able to invoke narrator by
hitting control-windows-enter on most sound cards.

On Sat, 21 Sep 2019 10:23:18 -0400,
Rick Mladek wrote:

Hi all,

Is it possible to install Windows 10 into/onto a new not previously used hard drive, without sighted assistance?

Thank you,

Rick





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How do
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moderated Re: Operating System unassisted install

Steve Matzura
 

Absolutely it is.

On 9/21/2019 10:23 AM, Rick Mladek wrote:
Hi all,

Is it possible to install Windows 10 into/onto a new not previously used hard drive, without sighted assistance?

Thank you,

Rick


moderated Re: Operating System unassisted install

 

Yes, once you know the installer has started wait a couple of minutes and then press Control + Windows + Enter and Narrator will start up and just as on an iPhone where you can bring up Voiceover to complete the setup, you can then install and setup Windows to the point where you can install your third-party screenreader of choice. I have done it many times and it works great.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2019 7:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Operating System unassisted install

Hi all,

Is it possible to install Windows 10 into/onto a new not previously used hard drive, without sighted assistance?

Thank you,

Rick


moderated Re: Irritating problems with JAWS 2018

Maria Campbell
 

I didn't have any focus problems with 18 that I recall, but I sure do with 19 now.  That's why I'm trying out the 20 beta.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@gmail.com

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.

On 9/21/2019 10:23 AM, Dan Longmore wrote:
Hi,
Sorry I can't help with the first but I can tell you that 2018 did have a lot of trouble with losing focus. A JAWS re boot at times fixed the problem for a time. Tabbing away and coming back is annoying but works. So far the issue is much less, if at all, in 2019. Yes, Freedom was aware of the issue.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of turab chimthanawala
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2019 12:27 AM
To: jfw <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Irritating problems with JAWS 2018

Dear all,
I use JAWS 2018 on a Win 10 machine. I am pissed off due to the following issues.
1. When Jaws is on, I can often use "g". While I know that there is some shortcut Windows + g for game bar: I continually have to turn that off. Any way to get rid of it permanently?
2. Jaws often loses focus while I am on the net. I have to press Alt + Tab twice to get the focus back.

Eagerly await solutions for these.

Thanks
Best
Turab






moderated Re: Irritating problems with JAWS 2018

Dan Longmore
 

Hi,
Sorry I can't help with the first but I can tell you that 2018 did have a lot of trouble with losing focus. A JAWS re boot at times fixed the problem for a time. Tabbing away and coming back is annoying but works. So far the issue is much less, if at all, in 2019. Yes, Freedom was aware of the issue.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of turab chimthanawala
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2019 12:27 AM
To: jfw <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Irritating problems with JAWS 2018

Dear all,
I use JAWS 2018 on a Win 10 machine. I am pissed off due to the following issues.
1. When Jaws is on, I can often use "g". While I know that there is some shortcut Windows + g for game bar: I continually have to turn that off. Any way to get rid of it permanently?
2. Jaws often loses focus while I am on the net. I have to press Alt + Tab twice to get the focus back.

Eagerly await solutions for these.

Thanks
Best
Turab


moderated Operating System unassisted install

Rick Mladek
 

Hi all,

Is it possible to install Windows 10 into/onto a new not previously used hard drive, without sighted assistance?

Thank you,

Rick


moderated Re: Irritating problems with JAWS 2018

 

Have you checked in Settings > Gaming > Game Bar and Game Mode to see that Game Bar and Game Mode is turned off?
You may not like this, but keep in mind that Jaws 2018 is 2 years old, I guess a bit less if you count updates for Jaws 2018 throughout that year, but as Windows moves on (version 1809, 1903 and soon 1909 are all versions which came after Jaws 2018 support ended) you may find more and more issues. Especially in Jaws 2020 people will probably see some pretty drastic improvements with respect to how Jaws access information with the new GDI or deep level hooking, I think currently the old accessibility display driver is still on by default, but I assume this may change very soon.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of turab chimthanawala
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 9:27 PM
To: jfw <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Irritating problems with JAWS 2018

Dear all,
I use JAWS 2018 on a Win 10 machine. I am pissed off due to the following issues.
1. When Jaws is on, I can often use "g". While I know that there is some shortcut Windows + g for game bar: I continually have to turn that off. Any way to get rid of it permanently?
2. Jaws often loses focus while I am on the net. I have to press Alt + Tab twice to get the focus back.

Eagerly await solutions for these.

Thanks
Best
Turab


moderated Re: activating windows by script

Kevin Meyers <kevinmeyers@...>
 

Do you have any documentation using Itunes or Spotify with Jaws?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2019 6:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: activating windows by script

This is the sort of thing my book, Windows Keyboard Power User Guide
concerns itself with. https://techforblind.us

I don't know if you can do this at work, I suspect you can, but go to the
run dialog and type shell:appsfolder and press enter. You get a listing of
everything installed on the computer. You can put icons to all of them on
the desktop, native Windows apps won't come with such icons by default, and
then assign hotkeys to them. It varies, but most of such hotkeys can be used
to switch to the app as well as launch it, but that doesn't work with Office
apps.

You can certainly pin your most important programs to the task bar. Skype
for Business and Outlook can be pinned. Once you learn the position of the
icons on the task bar, up to ten of them, you can press Windows+Number to
launch or switch to that program.


I suspect at least some of this will work for you.

Dean

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marten Post
Uiterweer
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2019 5:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: activating windows by script

Hi,

Is it possible to activate windows by using a script?

You can use ins-f10 and choose an other window, but I want to activate a
window by using a hotkey, so I can allways activate the skype for business
chat window for example or the outlook window.

Earlioer I used autohotkey for this, but at my work they don't want me to
use this program.

Regards, Marten


moderated Re: activating windows by script

Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
 

This is the sort of thing my book, Windows Keyboard Power User Guide
concerns itself with. https://techforblind.us

I don't know if you can do this at work, I suspect you can, but go to the
run dialog and type shell:appsfolder and press enter. You get a listing of
everything installed on the computer. You can put icons to all of them on
the desktop, native Windows apps won't come with such icons by default, and
then assign hotkeys to them. It varies, but most of such hotkeys can be used
to switch to the app as well as launch it, but that doesn't work with Office
apps.

You can certainly pin your most important programs to the task bar. Skype
for Business and Outlook can be pinned. Once you learn the position of the
icons on the task bar, up to ten of them, you can press Windows+Number to
launch or switch to that program.


I suspect at least some of this will work for you.

Dean

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marten Post
Uiterweer
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2019 5:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: activating windows by script

Hi,

Is it possible to activate windows by using a script?

You can use ins-f10 and choose an other window, but I want to activate a
window by using a hotkey, so I can allways activate the skype for
business chat window for example or the outlook window.

Earlioer I used autohotkey for this, but at my work they don't want me
to use this program.

Regards, Marten


moderated activating windows by script

Marten Post Uiterweer
 

Hi,

Is it possible to activate windows by using a script?

You can use ins-f10 and choose an other window, but I want to activate a
window by using a hotkey, so I can allways activate the skype for
business chat window for example or the outlook window.

Earlioer I used autohotkey for this, but at my work they don't want me
to use this program.

Regards, Marten


moderated Irritating problems with JAWS 2018

turab chimthanawala
 

Dear all,
I use JAWS 2018 on a Win 10 machine. I am pissed off due to the
following issues.
1. When Jaws is on, I can often use "g". While I know that there is
some shortcut Windows + g for game bar: I continually have to turn
that off. Any way to get rid of it permanently?
2. Jaws often loses focus while I am on the net. I have to press Alt +
Tab twice to get the focus back.

Eagerly await solutions for these.

Thanks
Best
Turab


moderated Re: braille display going to sleep during windows login

Milton Ota <mota1252@...>
 

If using the Focus 14 or 40 5th Generation, bring the display settings up and find Rest.

Press Enter on Rest and you will see at the far left of the display a number, using the up or down rocker bar will change the length of time before the braille display goes to sleep. The longest lenght you can have is 45.


Original message:

There is a sleep time in the menu of that Braille display, you can get
to it by using the thumb keys when a screen reader is not using the
display.
On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 09:34:03 -0400,
Richard Turner wrote:
[1 <text/plain; utf-8 (base64)>]
[2 <text/html; utf-8 (base64)>]
Well, I think she needs to either call Freedom Scientific or Humanware to figure out why it is going to sleep at that point.
That is not normal.


Humanware:
Toll-free phone (US only) 1 800 722-3393
E-mail: support@humanware.com


Freedom Scientific:
You can call the Technical Support department for all Freedom Scientific products at 727-803-8600 Monday - Friday, 8:30 AM - 7 PM, Eastern Time.


Richard


🖖 Live long and prosper




Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michelle's Home Emails
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 10:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: braille display going to sleep during windows login


hi Richard


Michelle here,


Thank you for response.
i think the lady has a humanware brailleiant 40 cell about 12 months old with Jaws 2019 pro windows 10


Hope this helps?
Michelle


On 20 Sep 2019, at 12:23 pm, Richard Turner <richardturner42@outlook.com> wrote:
Which braille display does she have?
What software is she using?


Richard


Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.


On Sep 18, 2019, at 10:05 PM, Michelle's Home Emails <m1stevens@wideband.net.au> wrote:
hi list
MY friend who is Deafblind is having problems where her braille display goes to sleep too quickly during login. Any way how to fix this so that it give a longer time to read information? Jays 2019 pro windows vers 10
Kind regards
Michelle


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How do
you spend it?
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covici@ccs.covici.com


moderated Re: Accessible Windows Server

HH. Smith Jr.
 

Thanks for the info. It just my come in handy for my Network administration courses.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robbie Curtis
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 1:45 PM
To: program-l@freelists.org; jfw@groups.io; wp4newbs@freelists.org
Subject: Accessible Windows Server

Hey Yall,


First of all I would like to thank those who assisted me in trying to fix my database connection problem for my local environment. With that being said, I posted my question to a Facebook group and was told to move from Wamp to Laragon.


I installed Laragon and my database connection problem was solved. So, I am sharing this with those of you who are looking for an accessible Windows server software. As stated, I installed it and the installation process as well as the software is accessible.


You can download Laragon at www.laragon.org.


Hope this helps.

--
Robbie J. Curtis
essence64@triad.rr.com
"Stay in peace, not pieces!"


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moderated Re: Pinning a Message

CathyAnne Murtha
 

I'm not sure which version of Outlook you're using. I'm using Office 365 and use the Windows Application Menu.

1. Focus on a message in the message list
2. Open the Windows Application Menu (WINDOWS APPLICATION KEY or SHIFT-F10)
3. Press ENTER on Follow-up
4. Within he Follow-up menu, press ENTER on "No Date"

After setting the Follow-up, set your email arrangement to "Flag Status."

This puts your flagged messages at the top and your other messages sorted by date at the bottom.

Messages with "No Date" follow-ups are always at the top.

To arrange messages by Flag Status:

1. Open the View Ribbon (ALT-V)
2. Activate the "Arrange By" (AB)
3. Within the list, select "Flag Status" (L)



CathyAnne


CathyAnne Murtha
Access Technology Institute, LLC
cathy@blind.training
www.blind.training
(520) 955-6611


moderated Accessible Windows Server

Robbie Curtis
 

Hey Yall,


First of all I would like to thank those who assisted me in trying to fix my database connection problem for my local environment. With that being said, I posted my question to a Facebook group and was told to move from Wamp to Laragon.


I installed Laragon and my database connection problem was solved. So, I am sharing this with those of you who are looking for an accessible Windows server software. As stated, I installed it and the installation process as well as the software is accessible.


You can download Laragon at www.laragon.org.


Hope this helps.

--
Robbie J. Curtis
essence64@triad.rr.com
"Stay in peace, not pieces!"


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moderated Re: Windows 10 "Sign-in" versus Windows 7 "Logon" Screens

 

Hi,

They are essentially the same thing – differences in terminology. In case one creates multiple user accounts in Windows 10, users will see a list of users to choose from and asked for credentials in any number of ways – passwords, pin, picture password, fingerprint, iris scan and so on.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 9:18 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Windows 10 "Sign-in" versus Windows 7 "Logon" Screens

 

Hi!

 

I am new to Windows 10.  I am using it under JAWS 2019.  In Windows 7, there was a “logon” screen that listed the various user accounts.  In Windows 10, there seems to be a “sign-in” screen.  Right now, there is just one user for this sign-in screen - me.  So, what is the difference between the “sign-in” versus the “logon” screens?  What happens in Windows 10 when I add a couple of additional user accounts?  How does this “sign-in” screen change?  With JAWS, what is the best way to setup Windows 10 to handle logging-in?  For example, can (or should) I disable the “sign-in” screen and instead use a “logon” screen?

 

Thanks,

Richard


moderated Re: Windows 10 "Sign-in" versus Windows 7 "Logon" Screens

 

As far as their respective functions, they're absolutely synonymous.

There are now Microsoft Account linked and local Windows 10 User Accounts, and there were only the equivalent of local under Windows 7.  But, still, that doesn't change the way the Sign-in screen works, which is essentially the same way that the Log-in screen did under Windows 7 when there are multiple accounts.
--

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Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.

         ~ Eric Hoffer


moderated Re: Windows 10 "Sign-in" versus Windows 7 "Logon" Screens

 

If you have more than one user they also show up in Windows 10, you can tab to the one you want, press enter and it will ask for that user’s password or PIN (if you set up a PIN).

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 9:18 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Windows 10 "Sign-in" versus Windows 7 "Logon" Screens

 

Hi!

 

I am new to Windows 10.  I am using it under JAWS 2019.  In Windows 7, there was a “logon” screen that listed the various user accounts.  In Windows 10, there seems to be a “sign-in” screen.  Right now, there is just one user for this sign-in screen - me.  So, what is the difference between the “sign-in” versus the “logon” screens?  What happens in Windows 10 when I add a couple of additional user accounts?  How does this “sign-in” screen change?  With JAWS, what is the best way to setup Windows 10 to handle logging-in?  For example, can (or should) I disable the “sign-in” screen and instead use a “logon” screen?

 

Thanks,

Richard

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