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List Rules - Mon, 10/1/18
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List Rules When: Description: http://groups.io/g/jfw/wiki/List-Policies
**List Policies** 1: Keep it clean. We're a family list, and there are people here who probably don't want to hear everything *exactly* that's running through your head. If you wouldn't see it on TV, it doesn't belong in a post to the list. If you're not sure, email the administration before you post it to the list. Otherwise, you stand to see your posts moderated. 2: Stay on topic. We're a JFW-oriented list. That said, anything related to JFW, its functionality with programs etc is acceptable. If it doesn't have to do with JFW, it doesn't belong on the list. This includes, but isn't limited to, talk of other screen readers such as Window Eyes. 3: Listen to, and respect, the wishes of the admins/moderators. If you're asked by an admin or moderator to drop a subject, or take something to private emails (in the instance of two people carrying on a thread list-wide), please do so. If the subject is changed on a thread by an admin or moderator, it will be explained why in the email sent out with it. Please don't continue replying to the old subject. 4: Don't ask over the list for a position on the list administration. If you'd like to help out, it's of course welcome, but address the request to do so to the admin team, otherwise it'll be ignored. Requests are always welcome, whether help is being looked for or not. When help is needed, a post will be made to the list. The requests already received will be kept in mind. 5: Keep flaming to a minimum. This is not limited to flaming of each other, but goes beyond that, to flaming of products, opinions, ideas, suggestions, etc. Constructive criticism never hurts. Flame wars, especially public ones, both drive people from this list and are unwelcome here. either take the problem to private emails, or report the problem to list administration. 6. Respect the opinions and views of others. This is *very* important in any environment, most especially an online environment where the only gage one has on a person is what that person puts to writing. If you come off as hostile in your posting, whether you intended to or not, people will take it as such. Online, "face value" means just that. People make mistakes, people don't always have access to the same information you do. For that matter, people don't always have the same experience you do. If you know how someone can solve their problem, great. Suggest it to them and/or the list. Do *not* proceed to tell someone, on or off list, that they have no business posting. Repeat offenders of this particular rule will be banned for a week to 30 days, depending on the severity. Serious problems will be banned permanently. As always, if there are problems or questions with regards these policies, don't hesitate to send them off-list to jfw+owner@groups.io James,
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Re: Can't access settings combo box in google chrome
Lorena Pennington
I down loaded google chrome why would need pop ups and what are they thanks
much trying all I can
From: Juanita
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 11:24 PM
Subject: Can't access settings combo box in google
chrome Hi all:
I’m using jaws 2018 and public beta 2019 and Windows 10. On the google chrome home page, nothing I’ve tried will let me access the settings combo box. I’ve tried alt-down arrow and enter. I’m trying to get to advance settings to allow popups. Thanks in advance for any suggestions for solving this problem. Juanita
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Re: jaws and chrome
Dan Longmore
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Mike Rogers <harpman9@...>
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2018 9:05:24 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: jaws and chrome My chrome stopped working, altogether. Using Jws 18 and 19 beta with same results. I was told by one who knows, that the old Internet Explorer actually works best with Jaws. Very reliable source. Turns out that I.E. actually works
very well and I'm using it for now.
******************************** www.harmonicaworkshops.com On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 10:37:05 -0400 "mike mcglashon" <michael.mcglashon@...> wrote: > Hey guys, > > I write this in a jaws context because I am not sure how else to address the > issue. > > I am using win10 jaws2018 and chrome; > > Some pages I go too, don't allow me to use alt to open the menus, > > And further, those same pages don't allow me to do a ctrl+d to add to > favorites? > > It doesn't seem to matter if the window is maximized or not; > > > > Is this a jaws issue? > > Or is it strictly a chrome issue? > > > > Can someone please advise? > > > > Mike m. > > > > > > Mike mcglashon > > Email: Michael.mcglashon@... <mailto:Michael.mcglashon@...> > > Ph: 618 783 9331 > > > > > >
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Re: jaws and chrome
Mike Rogers
My chrome stopped working, altogether. Using Jws 18 and 19 beta with same results. I was told by one who knows, that the old Internet Explorer actually works best with Jaws. Very reliable source. Turns out that I.E. actually works very well and I'm using it for now.
******************************** www.harmonicaworkshops.com On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 10:37:05 -0400 "mike mcglashon" <michael.mcglashon@...> wrote: Hey guys,
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Re: virtual windows programs
Soronel Haetir
Particularly if the guest OS is windows vmware workstation is very
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nice in that it can put together an unattended installation script (including product key if you provide it). I have had enormous problems getting past that screen with other virtualization products. And I am not sure whether VMWare Player can accept a product key the way Workstation can. I've also tried using the MS ADK (assessment and deployment kit) which is supposed to let you create custom install media but the tools are not accessible. Although honestly, once past install I generally use either remote desktop (if the guest is windows) or an SSH session (for *nix guests) and forget about the VM console entirely.
On 9/30/18, Brian Vogel <@britechguy> wrote:
Nino, --
Soronel Haetir soronel.haetir@...
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Re: virtual windows programs
Nino,
It's worth taking a quick look at Oracle VM Virtualbox. I suspect it will be accessible, but can't state that with absolute certainty. -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134 A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep. ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back
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Re: virtual windows programs
Joseph Norton
Hi there. The one that I’ve used most successfully is VMware player. Or you can use VMware workstation but that is a paid product. Hope this helps
On Sep 30, 2018, at 8:53 AM, Nino Dagostino <ndagostino3@...> wrote:
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Re: Does anybody use word press with jars?
Steve Nutt
Yes, it works quite well and you could certainly start a blog.
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Just make sure that in the editor window, you set it to Text rather than Visual. All the best Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Portillo Sent: 29 September 2018 06:11 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Does anybody use word press with jars? Hello, Does anyone here use Wordpress with their computer and Jaws? I also read that there are tutorials to use it, but again, I don’t know if that’s using it with jaws. Could I get some information from you guys on how well it works and whether or not I can start a blog? Jim Sent from my iPhone 7!
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Re: labeling buttons on webpage
Steve Nutt
It’s the same thing essentially.
All the best
Steve
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of mike mcglashon
Sent: 28 September 2018 20:34 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: labeling buttons on webpage
Hi bill: I tried the key combination ctrl+jaws+tab and it brought me to the label box that I saw whenst I pressed jaws+f2? Is there some other combination for prompting?
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
You shouldn’t need to do that. There’s also another function in JAWS which might work in your situation.
Creating a Prompt
To create a prompt:
Move to the control for which the prompt is not properly spoken. Press CTRL+INSERT+TAB. A dialog box appears to walk you through the creation of the prompt. On the first page, enter the prompt for the control as you want JAWS to speak it, and then select Next. On the second page, enter the prompt for the control as you want JAWS to display it in Braille, and then select Next. On the third page, specify a Tutor message to provide assistance with navigation or the use of this control. If you leave the Tutor message blank, the default message is used. Select Finish to create your prompt.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of mike mcglashon
Ok, do I have to restart jaws, or, reload the webpage for it to recognize the new labels?
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
It should label the button as a Personal Web setting, and should work with the Virtual cursor as well as JAWS cursor.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of mike mcglashon
thanks Bill for the prompt response.
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Re: Email
Michael Amaro
I get that as well
I’m using Windows 10 and JAWS 17 on my PC and the system regularly speaks
“Windows Live Mail” but, as I indicated earlier, very occasionally I hear
“Outlook Express.” One of those mystical JAWS happenings!!
Don
From: Brian
Vogel
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: Email Don, I am presuming this current topic is a spin off of your earlier query regarding the Windows 10 Mail App and asking for a tutorial. I'm also presuming I might be the Brian you're addressing. I have no idea why JAWS might occasionally say "Outlook Express" if you're actually using Windows Live Mail, particularly one of the later versions, but if you know that's what you're using it's probably some peculiarity about timing and what gets exposed to the screen reader for reading at a split second in time. If you're using the Windows 10 Mail App I would hope there's never be mention of Outlook Express or Windows Live Mail in any way, shape, or form. -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134 A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep. ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back
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Re: Email
Don Walls
Mike, thanks for this explanation. Of course, we don’t need to know
every little bit of tech but it is helpful to have a few of the cyber mysteries
cleared up. Enjoy this day.
Don
From: Mike
B.
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2018 5:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Email Hi Don,
You will occasionally
hear Outlook Express spoken because WLM and Outlook Express share some same
files / scripts in Jaws.
Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. ----- Original Message -----
From: Don Walls
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: Email I’m using Windows 10 and JAWS 17 on my PC and the system regularly speaks
“Windows Live Mail” but, as I indicated earlier, very occasionally I hear
“Outlook Express.” One of those mystical JAWS happenings!!
Don
From: Brian
Vogel
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 9:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Email Don, I am presuming this current topic is a spin off of your earlier query regarding the Windows 10 Mail App and asking for a tutorial. I'm also presuming I might be the Brian you're addressing. I have no idea why JAWS might occasionally say "Outlook Express" if you're actually using Windows Live Mail, particularly one of the later versions, but if you know that's what you're using it's probably some peculiarity about timing and what gets exposed to the screen reader for reading at a split second in time. If you're using the Windows 10 Mail App I would hope there's never be mention of Outlook Express or Windows Live Mail in any way, shape, or form. -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134 A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep. ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back
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i forgot to say
mike mcglashon
I also forgot to say that on these types of windows, I cannot f6 or shift f6 either, nothing happens when I do; Usually if I f6 or shift f6, it will switch between the content window and the address bar and download files menus if I downloaded something; In this case, f6 and shift f6 do nothing;
I was going to copy and past the xm page I was on when this happens, But I can’t even go to alt+d to get to address bar;
But if you go the Sirius xm college football schedule page, This phenomenon occurs;
Mike mcglashon Email: Michael.mcglashon@... Ph: 618 783 9331
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jaws and chrome
mike mcglashon
Hey guys, I write this in a jaws context because I am not sure how else to address the issue. I am using win10 jaws2018 and chrome; Some pages I go too, don’t allow me to use alt to open the menus, And further, those same pages don’t allow me to do a ctrl+d to add to favorites? It doesn’t seem to matter if the window is maximized or not;
Is this a jaws issue? Or is it strictly a chrome issue?
Can someone please advise?
Mike m.
Mike mcglashon Email: Michael.mcglashon@... Ph: 618 783 9331
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virtual windows programs
Nino Dagostino
Good morning:
I am takeing a Operating systems class we are using virtual machines.
What is the best virtual machine software to use with Jaws?
Any help would be appreciated.
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Re: Email
Mike B. <mike9902@...>
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Hi Don,
You will occasionally
hear Outlook Express spoken because WLM and Outlook Express share some same
files / scripts in Jaws.
Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers! Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
From: Don Walls
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: Email I’m using Windows 10 and JAWS 17 on my PC and the system regularly speaks
“Windows Live Mail” but, as I indicated earlier, very occasionally I hear
“Outlook Express.” One of those mystical JAWS happenings!!
Don
From: Brian
Vogel
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: Email Don, I am presuming this current topic is a spin off of your earlier query regarding the Windows 10 Mail App and asking for a tutorial. I'm also presuming I might be the Brian you're addressing. I have no idea why JAWS might occasionally say "Outlook Express" if you're actually using Windows Live Mail, particularly one of the later versions, but if you know that's what you're using it's probably some peculiarity about timing and what gets exposed to the screen reader for reading at a split second in time. If you're using the Windows 10 Mail App I would hope there's never be mention of Outlook Express or Windows Live Mail in any way, shape, or form. -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134 A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep. ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back
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Problems when entering formulae in Excel
Sameer
Dear List Friends,
While entering formulae in Excel using the arrow keys, JAWS does not speak
the cell coordinates when arrowing left or right but will speak them if arrowing
up or down. For example, if I want to enter =B1+B2 in cell A1, JAWS will read
“=B1” when I arrow down from A1 after typing the = sign. But when I press the +
sign & arrow right to B2, JAWS will stay silent. But the formula appears in
cell A1.
Kindly advise how I can make JAWS read the cell references when arrowing
left or right when entering formulae.
I am using a 64 bit Windows 7OS with JAWS 18 & Office 2016.
Thanking you in advance for any & all assistance.
Regards
Mr. Sameer
Latey Mumbai, India
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Re: Email
Don Walls
I’m using Windows 10 and JAWS 17 on my PC and the system regularly speaks
“Windows Live Mail” but, as I indicated earlier, very occasionally I hear
“Outlook Express.” One of those mystical JAWS happenings!!
Don
From: Brian
Vogel
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 9:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Email Don, I am presuming this current topic is a spin off of your earlier query regarding the Windows 10 Mail App and asking for a tutorial. I'm also presuming I might be the Brian you're addressing. I have no idea why JAWS might occasionally say "Outlook Express" if you're actually using Windows Live Mail, particularly one of the later versions, but if you know that's what you're using it's probably some peculiarity about timing and what gets exposed to the screen reader for reading at a split second in time. If you're using the Windows 10 Mail App I would hope there's never be mention of Outlook Express or Windows Live Mail in any way, shape, or form. -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134 A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep. ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back
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Re: JAWS vs Office 2016 / Office 365
Mike B. <mike9902@...>
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Hi Shirley,
I went ahead and
purchased Office Home and Student 2016 from the Microsoft Store and I'm in the
process of downloading it right now. Thank you very much for your
input.
Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers! Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
From: Shirley
Tracy
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS vs Office 2016 / Office 365 Mike,
I no nothing about Office 365, but I like the home and student version of Office 2016. I suppose it depends on what your wife uses it for, but for my own use it’s fine. I bought mine at Wal-Mart last year, on sale. Of course, they don’t just sell the disc any more. I only purchased a box that contained the key, and my son downloaded it for me from Microsoft. I was too tentative to try doing it myself without sight.
Shirley Tracy
From:
Mike B.
Hi All,
I'm setting up a new Windows 10 Home laptop for my wife. I would like to get feedback from those that used or know about both Office 2016 & Office 365. I don't want a subscription but, I want an install version.
Would y'all please tell me which would be the best option? I'm looking at the Home & Student version of either the Office or Office 365 since the program will get very little use. All input will be greatly appreciated. Thanks mooy moocho. Take
care. Mike. Go Dodgers!
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Re: JAWS vs Office 2016 / Office 365
Mike B. <mike9902@...>
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Hi Brian,
Thank you very much for
verifying the Office 365 subscription / download query. I'm going to
get Office 2016 Home and Student from the Microsoft Store. Thanks
again.
Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers! Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: JAWS vs Office 2016 / Office 365 To my knowledge Office 365 is strictly a subscription service, and looking at this Microsoft Office Product Page bears that out. With recent changes in the law in the EU and several other venues Microsoft can no longer tie a Microsoft Office single install license to a single machine. That license can still only be used for a single instance of Office, but if the machine it was originally on is decommissioned the license is free to be used on a different computer. This has caused a cottage industry to pop up in Europe and the Far East where machines being scrapped are being bought up, the licenses extracted, then the machines are scrapped or recycled. Those licenses are offered for sale on eBay for a song. I have now updated 5 computers, 4 in my household and one for a regular who shall remain nameless here, with Microsoft Office 2016 Pro Plus using licenses purchased from eBay for less than $10 each. The last one cost me the princely sum of $5.39, and though I had to use the phone activation rather than internet activation, it activated without a hitch. If you want installed then it's some version of Office 2016. Given the low cost of recycled licenses, I'd definitely try one of those first. I did have one that would not work and the seller promptly sent me a different license key. If you see someone selling these that has solid seller ratings in their profile I wouldn't hesitate for one second. A couple of these that I bought for under $7.50 were from new and unknown sellers, but the potential loss (which, by the way, did not happen) was so small it was well worth the risk compared to the cost of a brand new license. This practice, by the way, is entirely legal, at least if done under the current laws. The one thing that does get fudged a lot is that the sellers are supposed to have to sell you the actual junked hardware, too. They generally do, on paper, then you "donate it back" to the seller and never see it. -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134 A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep. ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back
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Re: JAWS vs Office 2016 / Office 365
Shirley Tracy
Mike,
I no nothing about Office 365, but I like the home and student version of Office 2016. I suppose it depends on what your wife uses it for, but for my own use it’s fine. I bought mine at Wal-Mart last year, on sale. Of course, they don’t just sell the disc any more. I only purchased a box that contained the key, and my son downloaded it for me from Microsoft. I was too tentative to try doing it myself without sight.
Shirley Tracy
From: Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 2:04 PM To: JFW List Subject: JAWS vs Office 2016 / Office 365
Hi All,
I'm setting up a new Windows 10 Home laptop for my wife. I would like to get feedback from those that used or know about both Office 2016 & Office 365. I don't want a subscription but, I want an install version.
Would y'all please tell me which would be the best option? I'm looking at the Home & Student version of either the Office or Office 365 since the program will get very little use. All input will be greatly appreciated. Thanks mooy moocho. Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers!
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