Its now called This PC type it into search to find it

List,

How do I see the list of drives on a Windows 10 operating system?  In Windows 7, I opened up “Computer” and found the list of drives i.e. removable drives etc.  Thanks in advance-

Mark

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mark
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 5:58 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Forms mode: your preferences

When it comes to forms mode, what are your preferences for settings: manual, automatic, semi-automatic? And any particular reasons for your preference? Mine is set to automatic but I'm now wondering if there might be something better.  I'd like to hear others have to say, while I experiment.

Maybe he needs to reboot in safe mode and manually delete that empty folder?Or call Microsoft Accessibility and get help doing that.



Hi, Kevin. There is no longer a separate 32 and 64-bit installer for JAWS. It is all contained in one installer. Jim is getting an error which just says, "Install Failed".

 

One thing Jim neglected to tell you is that There is an entry for JAWS 21 under programs and Features with nothing in it, and it won't uninstall.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 5:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: more on my jaws issue.

 

Hi.

 

Something to check is whether you have the 32 or 64 bit version of the installer, and make sure it matches your Windows OS.

 

Hope this helps.

Kevin and Jilly, the very empathic, flying doggie

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 8:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: more on my jaws issue.

 

What error are you getting?

 

Have you tried unloading Jaws 2019 with insert+f4 and running Narrator while you install 2021?

,

 

 

Richard

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 5:01 PM
To: jfw-users@groups.io
Subject: more on my jaws issue.

 

Hi all, I cannot install jaws 2021. I am authorized to have it, but it will not install. I downloaded it to my download folder, and that's as far as it goes.

I wrote to FS, and they gave me a case number, and I haven't heard from them since. Since I am authorized to have it, why won't it installs? I know a lot of you have a lot more knowledge about this kind of thing, so if you have some ideas, I would appreciate them. I am running jaws 19 at the moment on a windows ten computer. Jim

On Nov 20, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:



Hi, Kevin. There is no longer a separate 32 and 64-bit installer for JAWS. It is all contained in one installer. Jim is getting an error which just says, "Install Failed".

 

One thing Jim neglected to tell you is that There is an entry for JAWS 21 under programs and Features with nothing in it, and it won't uninstall.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 5:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: more on my jaws issue.

 

Hi.

 

Something to check is whether you have the 32 or 64 bit version of the installer, and make sure it matches your Windows OS.

 

Hope this helps.

Kevin and Jilly, the very empathic, flying doggie

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 8:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: more on my jaws issue.

 

What error are you getting?

 

Have you tried unloading Jaws 2019 with insert+f4 and running Narrator while you install 2021?

,

 

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

*I’m not the card shark

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 5:01 PM
To: jfw-users@groups.io
Subject: more on my jaws issue.

 

Hi all, I cannot install jaws 2021. I am authorized to have it, but it will not install. I downloaded it to my download folder, and that's as far as it goes.

I wrote to FS, and they gave me a case number, and I haven't heard from them since. Since I am authorized to have it, why won't it installs? I know a lot of you have a lot more knowledge about this kind of thing, so if you have some ideas, I would appreciate them. I am running jaws 19 at the moment on a windows ten computer. Jim

When it comes to forms mode, what are your preferences for settings: manual, automatic, semi-automatic? And any particular reasons for your preference? Mine is set to automatic but I'm now wondering if there might be something better.  I'd like to hear others have to say, while I experiment.

Hi.

Something to check is whether you have the 32 or 64 bit version of the installer, and make sure it matches your Windows OS.

Hope this helps.

Kevin and Jilly, the very empathic, flying doggie

What error are you getting?

Have you tried unloading Jaws 2019 with insert+f4 and running Narrator while you install 2021?

,

Hi all, I cannot install jaws 2021. I am authorized to have it, but it will not install. I downloaded it to my download folder, and that's as far as it goes.

I wrote to FS, and they gave me a case number, and I haven't heard from them since. Since I am authorized to have it, why won't it installs? I know a lot of you have a lot more knowledge about this kind of thing, so if you have some ideas, I would appreciate them. I am running jaws 19 at the moment on a windows ten computer. Jim

What error are you getting?

Have you tried unloading Jaws 2019 with insert+f4 and running Narrator while you install 2021?

,

Hi all, I cannot install jaws 2021. I am authorized to have it, but it will not install. I downloaded it to my download folder, and that's as far as it goes.

I wrote to FS, and they gave me a case number, and I haven't heard from them since. Since I am authorized to have it, why won't it installs? I know a lot of you have a lot more knowledge about this kind of thing, so if you have some ideas, I would appreciate them. I am running jaws 19 at the moment on a windows ten computer. Jim

Hi all, I cannot install jaws 2021. I am authorized to have it, but it will not install. I downloaded it to my download folder, and that's as far as it goes.

I wrote to FS, and they gave me a case number, and I haven't heard from them since. Since I am authorized to have it, why won't it installs? I know a lot of you have a lot more knowledge about this kind of thing, so if you have some ideas, I would appreciate them. I am running jaws 19 at the moment on a windows ten computer. Jim

If CONTROL plus W doesn't close out the browser, it means that the browser has locked up, and as you said, your only option is to close out all tasks under Google Chrome.

Hi Bill  When google chrome  m.facebook.com  page is still open  Are you telling me that alt + F4 doesn’t close out the page browser ? Because I always press alt + F4 to close out google chrome  m.facebook.com  but when I press alt + F4  google chrome m.facebook.com won’t close out because the google chrome m.facebook.com page is stucked and won’t close out that’s why I went to task manager to task it to see if it will task google chrome  then press spacebar  the google chrome m.facebook.com still opens I try ctrl + w it won’t close out the page browser

 If any browser page is stucked  and can’t close out  then What would you do to get google chrome  to close out?

Addison

Hi, Addison. When ALT plus F4 doesn't close a browser, in most cases, try CONTROL plus W.

Hi Bill  OK if it suppose to say close in all  then when I was on google chrome  with m.facebook.com  on profile page  when I come back to coputer 20 minute later  then I press f5 to fresh the page it will not fresh the page so I press alt  - f4 to try to close out google chrome  profile  on m.facebook.com  so the page is stucked up and won’t close out the page  so I went to task manager  page then arrow down to google chrome close then press tab key 2 time to task button press enter  and press alt –f4 to close out task manager  after task manager page close out google chrome profile on m.facebook.com still open then I press alt –f4 again it will not close out google chrome profile m.facebook.com  so I had to restart the computer . Why is that?

Addison

Hi, Addison. Yes, it is supposed to say closed. To open the category in Task Manager, press the Right Arrow, and you may find several tasks under this one category. It says "Closed" in the same manner as when you are exploring the Files and Folders tree under Windows Explorer. It is not saying that the program is closed, it is saying that the entry for that item is closed and must be expanded with the Right Arrow.

Hi All I have jaws2020  and desktop computer Window10  !! When I press ctrl + shift + esc  to task manager   when task manager window page opens then I arrow down through the items  when I hear it’s say application for jaws  closed ,google chrome  closed ,firefox closed,microsoft edge closed and microsoft outlook closed  and others closed  !! Does task manager supposed to have all the items saying closed ? Because  when I was using google chrome  with  m.facebook.com  have the page opens for about 15 or 30 minute  later when I come back on computer  I was on google chrome  page with m.facebook.com I press F5 to fresh the page somehow  it won’t fresh the page so I press alt  F4 to close out the page  it won’t close out the google chrome  m.facebook.com  so it got stuck  so I went to task manager  then I arrow down to google chrome closed  then I press tab key it say detail  then press tab key again it say task  button I press enter  then I press alt –F4 to close out task manager  then it was on google chrome m.facebook.com profile  I press alt – F4 to close out the page but it won’t close out google chrome  !! Does anyone have any idea what I can do to task manager to say google chrome  without saying close ? Do anyone of you went you go to task manager  ,does all of your items say close ?

Addison

I need to get an exception for any software installation. The time keeping system we use is Kronos. We use Workday for HR and that presents it’s own challenges, but I have to access it much less often.



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 11:13 AM
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Subject: Re: am I losing my mind or is we coding really that different by browser?


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Will you have to get an exception to try NVDA?
I think I’d go that route first.
Sounds like Workday. What a pain.



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From: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io <<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
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Subject: am I losing my mind or is we coding really that different by browser?

I feel like I’m losing my mind – maybe because I’m hitting my head on the wall. On my work computer, my primary browser s Chrome. I just got an upgrade to the chromium Edge, so I’ll try that soon, but assume it’s similar to Chrome. I also still have IE 11. I’ve noticed with two different web applications that JAWS voices the same page quite differently in when I use Chrome versus IE. I feel stuck on doing what I need to do. Here are a couple examples. I’d really like to understand from some of you web developer/accessibility people what is going on.

Running Windows 10, JAWS 2020 (soon to be 2021).

Our time keeping system is not great with JAWS. The company says it works with NVDA & Firefox, neither of which I have on this laptop and if you use what they call listview instead of the more intuitive table view that my colleagues use. If I use IE 11, I can arrow down through this listview and it reads a button for each date in my pay period, followed by a button where I can code whether I took a vacation day or such. This format makes some sense. If I click the button for pay code, it seems to open a small dialog associated to the corresponding date where is shows each type of code an the number of hours, such as 8 hours of vacation.
Because I’m having some issues with the menu to pick a code type, I thought I’d go try it in Chrome. In Chrome, the same page reads very differently. Arrowing down through the page only has one option for each day of the pay period and JAWS says its’ a menu. I have yet to figure out how to access this menu, as all my normal tricks aren’t working. I’ll likely call AIRA for visual help as a temporary work around.

On SharePoint sites we use internally, There are tabs at the top that bring up different ribbons of buttons for editing and working with pages. In IE, these tabs JAWS sees as Links and will bring up in the links list, then I can use B to move to each button. In Chrome, these tab labels do not come up as links and I have to find them in other ways that are more clunky and seems to trigger Forms mode.

Is this expected? I’m surprised that the same elements on a page would be rendered so differently in different browsers. I’m really trying to embrace Chrome, but find some web coding more clunky and in the case of my time keeping system, not seemingly accessible. Would Firefox really render this another way that could potentially work better with JAWS? I’ll have to ask for an exception to get Firefox installed and not even sure if it will be an improvement.

Thoughts?

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Hi Group:

Since I installed the JAWS 2021 version, I have started having trouble opening links. At first I noticed it with Windows Mail, but now it happens on websites. Do any of you have the same issues? Is this something connected with the latest update? Or is it my computer? It’s getting frustrating.

I’m using a desktop with Windows 10 and the latest JAWS.

Can anyone help?

Shirley Tracy

On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 06:27 PM, Jaffar Sidek wrote:

I'll check up on opera mail and will recommend it if it is worth anything. 

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Much appreciated.  I would love to have one more email client that I can recommend that has been determined to be accessible.  And those who use a screen reader as their primary access method are far more likely to hit glitches that I might not when I do cursory accessibility testing.

It's easy to determine when something is truly inaccessible in no time.  But it's a lot more difficult to determine just precisely how accessible something is using any "quick and dirty" testing techniques.
 
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