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Re: How do I get Outlook 2016 to stop reading a message's subject line when I open it?

Alan Robbins
 

Just checked my settings and they are as suggested and behavior persists. This has been true through all 3 beta versions as well as final release. Has anyone reported to Vispero?

 

Al

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2018 10:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I get Outlook 2016 to stop reading a message's subject line when I open it?

 

Matthew, this is a different Richard,

I’m using Jaws 2019, Windows 10 home 1809, I have Office 365.

In Outlook, following your steps with the settings, the reading behavior does not change.

I still hear the subject and message type read after hitting enter on the Email.  And, it won’t automatically read…

The message type is uncheck, yet, I hear each time if the Email is HTML, plain text, etc.

I’m off to work, where I have Jaws 2018 and Windows 7 and outlook 2016 so I will check there.

 

Richard

 

 

 

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Matthew Horspool
Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2018 4:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I get Outlook 2016 to stop reading a message's subject line when I open it?

 

Hi James,

Press JAWSKey+V for Quick Settings, and move to and open "Reading Options". In there, adjust the following:

  1. Uncheck "Message Header Field With Message Announcement"
  2. Check "Messages Automatically Read"

Then ENTER to close the dialog.

HTH,

Matthew

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: 06 November 2018 03:04
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: How do I get Outlook 2016 to stop reading a message's subject line when I open it?

 

Hi!

 

In JFW 15 with Outlook 2007, I use to be able to have an opened message begin automatically start reading but not its subject line, just the message body.  I don’t need the subject line re-read because I already know it from the message’s preview in Outlook’s list box as I scroll down my inbox.  Now, with JFW 2019 and Outlook 2016 the message’s subject line reads after I open it as JFW begins to read the message’s body.  How can I stop the message’s subject line from reading?

 

Thanks,

Richard


Is there a version of firefox that currently works with Jaws

Kimber Gardner
 

Hi All,

I'm getting a new laptop this week and I'm wondering what I should be
doing about a browser. I've used firefox in the past, but I know there
have been lots of problems recently.

So my question is whether those problems have been fixed? Or if not
what browser would people recommend for use with windows 10?

This is my first windows 10 laptop so I'm not sure what works best and
would have the least learning curve.

Thanks for any recommendations.

Kim

--
Kimberly


Re: How do I get Outlook 2016 to stop reading a message's subject line when I open it?

Richard Turner
 

Matthew, this is a different Richard,

I’m using Jaws 2019, Windows 10 home 1809, I have Office 365.

In Outlook, following your steps with the settings, the reading behavior does not change.

I still hear the subject and message type read after hitting enter on the Email.  And, it won’t automatically read…

The message type is uncheck, yet, I hear each time if the Email is HTML, plain text, etc.

I’m off to work, where I have Jaws 2018 and Windows 7 and outlook 2016 so I will check there.

 

Richard

 

 

 

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Matthew Horspool
Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2018 4:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I get Outlook 2016 to stop reading a message's subject line when I open it?

 

Hi James,

Press JAWSKey+V for Quick Settings, and move to and open "Reading Options". In there, adjust the following:

  1. Uncheck "Message Header Field With Message Announcement"
  2. Check "Messages Automatically Read"

Then ENTER to close the dialog.

HTH,

Matthew

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: 06 November 2018 03:04
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: How do I get Outlook 2016 to stop reading a message's subject line when I open it?

 

Hi!

 

In JFW 15 with Outlook 2007, I use to be able to have an opened message begin automatically start reading but not its subject line, just the message body.  I don’t need the subject line re-read because I already know it from the message’s preview in Outlook’s list box as I scroll down my inbox.  Now, with JFW 2019 and Outlook 2016 the message’s subject line reads after I open it as JFW begins to read the message’s body.  How can I stop the message’s subject line from reading?

 

Thanks,

Richard


Re: I signing hot keys question

Matthew Horspool
 

Hi James,

It is possible to do this, but you will need to edit the JKM file by hand.

The syntax for layered keys is:
KEY1&KEY2=SCRIPT

For example, if I want to announce the time by pressing SHIFT+SPACE, followed by the letter T, I would need to add a line like this:
SHIFT+SPACE&T=SaySystemTime

If you require more comprehensive instructions on how to edit JKM files by hand, please get back to me.

Best wishes,

Matthew

 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Lockwood
Sent: 05 November 2018 21:12
To: Jaws JFW <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: I signing hot keys question

 

Some hot keys in the keyboard manager have the user pressed a modifier key plus the space bar then a letter. Is it possible for you to change these hot keys? If so, how do you assign that kind of a hockey without having jaws just recognize two buttons you push? For example  Whenever I try to assign a function to the  hot key shift plus space bar plus  the letter k, jaws only records shift and the space bar. But, I want to assign a function to shift plus the space bar than the press of a letter.   I think these  are called double layer hot keys. But I’m not sure. Thank you for anyone who can help

 


JAWS 2018.1808.10 Reports Incorrect File Count in File Explorer

Steve Matzura
 

This has been annoying me for some time now, but today it annoyed me enough to scare me. I have a directory that I absolutely know has fifty-one files in it. Sometimes when I'm looking at files toward the top of the list, JAWS says the file is numbered one of twenty-three, or maybe some other higher number first, then "of twenty-three," and if I'm further down the list, JAWS may say "so-and-so of twenty-nine." Never do I hear "so-and-so of fifty-one." This is in Windows 10, 1803, build 345, the window  is maximized, I'm in list view, I even tried details view, same thing. Anybody have any i-dears? I'm all ears. LOL


Re: How do I get Outlook 2016 to stop reading a message's subject line when I open it?

Matthew Horspool
 

Hi Richard! I don't know why I called you James! Sorry about that.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Matthew Horspool
Sent: 06 November 2018 12:32
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I get Outlook 2016 to stop reading a message's subject line when I open it?

 

Hi James,

Press JAWSKey+V for Quick Settings, and move to and open "Reading Options". In there, adjust the following:

a.       Uncheck "Message Header Field With Message Announcement"

b.      Check "Messages Automatically Read"

Then ENTER to close the dialog.

HTH,

Matthew

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: 06 November 2018 03:04
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: How do I get Outlook 2016 to stop reading a message's subject line when I open it?

 

Hi!

 

In JFW 15 with Outlook 2007, I use to be able to have an opened message begin automatically start reading but not its subject line, just the message body.  I don’t need the subject line re-read because I already know it from the message’s preview in Outlook’s list box as I scroll down my inbox.  Now, with JFW 2019 and Outlook 2016 the message’s subject line reads after I open it as JFW begins to read the message’s body.  How can I stop the message’s subject line from reading?

 

Thanks,

Richard


Re: How do I get Outlook 2016 to stop reading a message's subject line when I open it?

Matthew Horspool
 

Hi James,

Press JAWSKey+V for Quick Settings, and move to and open "Reading Options". In there, adjust the following:

a.       Uncheck "Message Header Field With Message Announcement"

b.      Check "Messages Automatically Read"

Then ENTER to close the dialog.

HTH,

Matthew

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: 06 November 2018 03:04
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: How do I get Outlook 2016 to stop reading a message's subject line when I open it?

 

Hi!

 

In JFW 15 with Outlook 2007, I use to be able to have an opened message begin automatically start reading but not its subject line, just the message body.  I don’t need the subject line re-read because I already know it from the message’s preview in Outlook’s list box as I scroll down my inbox.  Now, with JFW 2019 and Outlook 2016 the message’s subject line reads after I open it as JFW begins to read the message’s body.  How can I stop the message’s subject line from reading?

 

Thanks,

Richard


Re: reading markers

Matthew Horspool
 

Hi Ed,

This is a Word option:

1.       Press ALT+F, then T for Word Options.

2.       In the tree view, press D for Display.

3.       TAB to the group of controls labelled "Always show these formatting marks on the screen". Make sure all the checkboxes in that group are unchecked, unless you particularly want certain markers shown.

4.       Press ENTER.

In certain versions of Office, there is also a keystroke to toggle on and off all formatting marks, but I can't remember what it is. Memory says it is CTRL+SHIFT+8, but maybe it's 9 or 7 or 6. Feel free to experiment.

Hope this helps,

Matthew

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ed Legge
Sent: 06 November 2018 05:01
To: JAWS for window group <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: reading markers

 

I have apparently done something that is causing JAWS to read markers in my Word documents.  for example, it now says “space marker” between words and “paragraph marker” between paragraphs.

How do I change it back to not saying these things and what did I do to make the change?

 

 


Re: reading markers

Debby Hill
 

Hi Ed,

 

Try pressing Control + shift + 8. That is a toggle. By the way, it is the 8 on the number row.

 

Good luck!

 

Debby6

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ed Legge
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2018 12:01 AM
To: JAWS for window group
Subject: reading markers

 

I have apparently done something that is causing JAWS to read markers in my Word documents.  for example, it now says “space marker” between words and “paragraph marker” between paragraphs.

How do I change it back to not saying these things and what did I do to make the change?

 

 


reading markers

Ed Legge <edward.legge@...>
 

I have apparently done something that is causing JAWS to read markers in my Word documents.  for example, it now says “space marker” between words and “paragraph marker” between paragraphs.

How do I change it back to not saying these things and what did I do to make the change?

 

 


How do I get Outlook 2016 to stop reading a message's subject line when I open it?

Richard B. McDonald
 

Hi!

 

In JFW 15 with Outlook 2007, I use to be able to have an opened message begin automatically start reading but not its subject line, just the message body.  I don’t need the subject line re-read because I already know it from the message’s preview in Outlook’s list box as I scroll down my inbox.  Now, with JFW 2019 and Outlook 2016 the message’s subject line reads after I open it as JFW begins to read the message’s body.  How can I stop the message’s subject line from reading?

 

Thanks,

Richard


Re: JAWS Won't Read Safeway Receipt

 

Sorry, but you didn't say it was an email, I assumed it was an attached PDF.

Anyhow, you can still recognize the current screen or window although this may include other stuff you may not want. The keys for doing OCR on the screen is Jaws Key+Spacebar followed by O and S, for recognizing the current Window it is Jaws Key+Spacebar followed by O and W.

If it isn't secret, could you forward one of the Safeway receipt emails to me, I don't mind taking a look in case I can suggest anything else.

If you don't want to forward it to the list you can send it to sieghard@...

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Miller
Sent: Monday, November 5, 2018 1:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Won't Read Safeway Receipt

 

I thought OCR was just for PDF documents.  The receipt I am talking about is not a PDF file, it is an e-mail message.  When I tried to open up OCR JAWS wouldn’t start.

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2018 7:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Won't Read Safeway Receipt

 

I get the occasional invoice from a supplier where this is the case. Just use Jaws OCR and  you should be fine.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Miller
Sent: Monday, November 5, 2018 6:37 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: JAWS Won't Read Safeway Receipt

 

Dear Listers:

 

Safeway supermarket delivers my groceries.  Before each delivery, they send me an e-mail receipt.  JAWS will read the part of the receipt that lists the time of day and the order number, but it will not read the receipt itself.  Have any of you had this experience with Safeway, and did you get JAWS to read the receipt?  If so, how?

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 


Re: I signing hot keys question

 

I am not aware this can be done by a user.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Lockwood
Sent: Monday, November 5, 2018 1:12 PM
To: Jaws JFW <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: I signing hot keys question

Some hot keys in the keyboard manager have the user pressed a modifier key plus the space bar then a letter. Is it possible for you to change these hot keys? If so, how do you assign that kind of a hockey without having jaws just recognize two buttons you push? For example Whenever I try to assign a function to the hot key shift plus space bar plus the letter k, jaws only records shift and the space bar. But, I want to assign a function to shift plus the space bar than the press of a letter. I think these are called double layer hot keys. But I’m not sure. Thank you for anyone who can help


Re: Jaws made accessible a new job opportunity: stenographer.

Peter Donahue
 

Good evening Danielle and everyone,

 

                First of all congratulations from Mary and myself. These are the kinds of stories we like reading on lists of this kind. Thanks to your new job and VFO's new pricing plan keeping Jaws up-to-date and buying additional copies will be less of a struggle for you. All the best.

 

Peter Donahue

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Daniele Casarola
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2018 3:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws made accessible a new job opportunity: stenographer.

 

Yes,

I'm visually impaired. Without a Screen Reader I can't work.

Ps
I was sure to have already answered, maybe I didn't press the "reply" button.


modules for jaws?

pmbeardy@...
 

hi, just wondering if jaws will go to the parcel out what you need method. what I mean is if you need scripts for such and such a program you'll have to download those scripts. imagine if jaws was 1tb in size? just wondering... thanks  


Re: JAWS not reading dialogs in Goldwave

Mario
 

thanks.

-------- Original Message --------
From: dennis [mailto:dennisc67@...]
Sent: Monday, Nov 5, 2018 5:37 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS not reading dialogs in Goldwave

i don't think that's necessary. you shouldn't have any other problem
with it.

On 11/5/2018 4:31 PM, Mario wrote:
yes, GW is maximized. unloading and reloading JAWS did work and I'm
hoping it won't revert to not speaking when arrowing in dialogs.

do you know how to maximize the child window, or if it's really necessary?

any other settings to tweak that will be beneficial to using a screen
reader?

-------- Original Message --------
From: dennis [mailto:dennisc67@...]
Sent: Monday, Nov 5, 2018 4:16 PM EST
To:main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS not reading dialogs in Goldwave

hmmm. that fixed the problem for me, did you restart jaws and goldwave.
sometimes that sort of resets everything.also is gw maximized?

On 11/5/2018 3:09 PM, Mario wrote:
auto scroll lock is checked, but JAWS still doesn't read the dialogs.



-------- Original Message --------
From: dennis [mailto:dennisc67@...]
Sent: Monday, Nov 5, 2018 3:42 PM EST
To:main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS not reading dialogs in Goldwave

go to the view menue "alt v". make sure the scroll lock is checked by
pressing enter on it. this should fix the problem.

On 11/5/2018 10:30 AM, Mario wrote:
no. JAWS still does not read the dialogs where it should be possible to
press the arrow keys to make a selection.
pressing insert+q reports that default settings are loaded.


-------- Original Message --------
From: John Covici [mailto:covici@...]
Sent: Monday, Nov 5, 2018 10:44 AM EST
To:main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS not reading dialogs in Goldwave

I have not experienced this problem with Jaws 2018 or 2019. Does it
work if you temporarily set to default settings?

On Mon, 05 Nov 2018 10:32:17 -0500,
Mario wrote:

using JAWS 2018 with Goldwave 6.35, JAWS does not read selections in
dialogs as expected where you can arrow to select a preset or a setting
of that preset; JAWS just says blank unless I first open the dialog
(alt+down arrow), select a preset or value of a setting, close the
dialog (alt+up arrow), and finally f4 to preview the change.

this becomes very tedious if wanting to adjust the preset or to try
another one. I experienced this problem a few weeks ago, and
reinstalling after uninstalling JAWS fixed the problem, but the problem
has returned, and uninstalling/reinstalling doesn't fix the problem this
time.

I don't know what to do to fix the problem. hoping someone can help?










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Re: safe boot and jaws 2019 issue

Michael Amaro
 

narrator does indeed work

--------------------------------------------------
From: <charleseblack@...>
Sent: Monday, November 5, 2018 12:43 PM
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: safe boot and jaws 2019 issue

I do not believe JAWS will work when you reboot. Will Narrator activate the
sound and work? Thanks!

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Amaro
Sent: Monday, November 5, 2018 12:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: safe boot and jaws 2019 issue

As I stated I had to go back to an older version of jaws. To get in to safe
boot, windows key R type the following:

msconfig

Once msconfig loads, control tab to boot tab. Tab untill jaws says safe
boot checkbox not checked check it. Tab to okay Restart the computer. Hope
this helps.


From: Andrew Summers via Groups.Io
<mailto:asummers112=yahoo.co.uk@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 5, 2018 3:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: safe boot and jaws 2019 issue

How did you get into safe boot with JAWS?

Andrew

From: Michael Amaro
Sent: Monday, November 5, 2018 6:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: safe boot and jaws 2019 issue

Hello Listers,

I am running windows 10 1803 latest jaws 2019. IWent in to safe boot to run
disk cleanup. Tried loading jaws 2019, it wouldn't load. Had to go back to
jaws 2018 When in safe boot.

thanks

Michael Amaro




Re: Insert page down in Word 2016 and JAWS

Richard Turner
 

Dean's answer was the one that worked, temporarily, but at work, it appears to be a permissions issue.
I do not have full administrator rights on the computer, so certain things get messed up.
If I have the administrator log in, then Word behaves perfectly fine.
But, when I am logged in as me, it doesn't behave.
But, yes, everything is maximized.
So, I will see if they can give me some permissions in my documents folder to resolve this. It isn't that big of a deal, but when formatting documents, it is necessary to know exactly where you are.
Thanks,
Richard



"It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good books which are your very own." __ Sir Arthur Conan Doyle

On Nov 5, 2018, at 12:48 PM, Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) via Groups.Io <steven.hicks=nhs.net@groups.io> wrote:

Have you tried maximising the screen?



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: 05 November 2018 19:58
To: JFW user list <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Insert page down in Word 2016 and JAWS

At work, I have Office 2016, not Office 365 and Jaws 2018 or 2019 depending on which I need.
At home, when I press insert Page Down, I hear the page number, and even which line I'm on.
At work I just get the page count.
I recall something being said that one could change to fix this, but I cannot find or remember it.
Any help would be appreciated.
Richard



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Re: I signing hot keys question

Milton Ota <mota1252@...>
 

Try it this way:

When on the Desktop select JAWS 2019.
Bring the context/Application Menu with Shift-F10
Select Properties
Tab to the field for Short-Cut key and just type the letter you want to use. If prompted for admin permision on continue, just press enter. You should then see the keystroke combination Control-Alt- and the key you selected.

Original message:

Some hot keys in the keyboard manager have the user pressed a modifier key plus the space bar then a letter. Is it possible for you to change these hot keys? If so, how do you assign that kind of a hockey without having jaws just recognize two buttons you push? For example Whenever I try to assign a function to the hot key shift plus space bar plus the letter k, jaws only records shift and the space bar. But, I want to assign a function to shift plus the space bar than the press of a letter. I think these are called double layer hot keys. But I’m not sure. Thank you for anyone who can help


Re: JAWS not reading dialogs in Goldwave

dennis
 

i don't think that's necessary. you shouldn't have any other problem with it.

On 11/5/2018 4:31 PM, Mario wrote:
yes, GW is maximized. unloading and reloading JAWS did work and I'm 
hoping it won't revert to not speaking when arrowing in dialogs.

do you know how to maximize the child window, or if it's really necessary?

any other settings to tweak that will be beneficial to using a screen 
reader?

-------- Original Message --------
From: dennis [mailto:dennisc67@...]
Sent: Monday, Nov 5, 2018 4:16 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS not reading dialogs in Goldwave

hmmm. that fixed the problem for me, did you restart jaws and goldwave.
sometimes that sort of resets everything.also is gw maximized?

On 11/5/2018 3:09 PM, Mario wrote:
auto scroll lock is checked, but JAWS still doesn't read the dialogs.



-------- Original Message --------
From: dennis [mailto:dennisc67@...]
Sent: Monday, Nov 5, 2018 3:42 PM EST
To:main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS not reading dialogs in Goldwave

go to the view menue "alt v". make sure the scroll lock is checked by
pressing enter on it. this should fix the problem.

On 11/5/2018 10:30 AM, Mario wrote:
no. JAWS still does not read the dialogs where it should be possible to
press the arrow keys to make a selection.
pressing insert+q reports that default settings are loaded.


-------- Original Message --------
From: John Covici [mailto:covici@...]
Sent: Monday, Nov 5, 2018 10:44 AM EST
To:main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS not reading dialogs in Goldwave

I have not experienced this problem with Jaws 2018 or 2019.  Does it
work if you temporarily set to default settings?

On Mon, 05 Nov 2018 10:32:17 -0500,
Mario wrote:

using JAWS 2018 with Goldwave 6.35, JAWS does not read selections in
dialogs as expected where you can arrow to select a preset or a setting
of that preset; JAWS just says blank unless I first open the dialog
(alt+down arrow), select a preset or value of a setting, close the
dialog (alt+up arrow), and finally f4 to preview the change.

this becomes very tedious if wanting to adjust the preset or to try
another one. I experienced this problem a few weeks ago, and
reinstalling after uninstalling JAWS fixed the problem, but the problem
has returned, and uninstalling/reinstalling doesn't fix the problem this
time.

I don't know what to do to fix the problem. hoping someone can help?










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