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moderated Re: JAWS Equivalent of NVDA Focus Highlight

 

Mike,

           Thanks.  I'll have to get the 40-minute version of the latest JAWS and try that.  I was in "the area of those settings" but no matter what I tried yesterday I could not get that visual indicator to come up.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: JAWS Equivalent of NVDA Focus Highlight

Mike B.
 


Good morning Brian,
 
See if the notes below help:
 
Tracking JAWS user by sighted onlooker.
 
FSCast, January 2020. Eric. The two things I want to talk about, first is we’ve redone how we highlight information in HTML. So as you’re reading through
a web page, we always try and put a visual indicator on the page at where you are. So if you’ve got somebody leaning over your shoulder that’s sighted,
looking at your screen, they should be able to keep track of where you’re reading. That’s very helpful, and we’ve been using like a transparent green box
when you’re running with JAWS. in ZoomText and Fusion it would be a red box around the area that’s being read.
 
ZoomText does a good job with how they track, but of course they’re not tracking with a virtual cursor. JAWS and Fusion have been tracking with a virtual
cursor, and that’s when things can get a little wonky, when you’re arrowing down through a web page. Sometimes the highlight would disappear.  Sometimes
it wouldn’t be quite clear what you’re really reading, considering where the highlight is. that’s greatly improved, and it’s all the same now, whether
you’re running ZoomText, JAWS, or Fusion. It’s the red box.
 
in the Settings Center there are places where you can make adjustments to it. You can make it bigger, darker, more transparent.  you can change the colors.
You can make it a block that goes over everything, if that’s more helpful. And you’ll see it when you move on to things like a list of items on a web page.
So if you had a list of seven links, when it says “list of seven items,” the box will be around all seven items. as you move into the list, it’ll highlight
each individual item as you move through it.
 
when you do a “say all,” this box tracks along as you’re reading by word. But when you’re moving with a DOWN ARROW, we try and put the box around the virtual
line or the text contained in the virtual line, which sometimes carries over one or two lines. So sometimes the box is going around several lines of text,
and you’re reading inside that somewhere. But it's a great improvement.
 
Adrian  
 
From: Brad Snyder
To turn on this feature, do the following:
1.  Open JAWS Settings Center using Insert + NumberRow 6.
2.  Press CTRL + Shift + D, to open Default Settings for All Apps.
3.  Type Cursor into the search edit box.
4.  Press the down arrow until you get to Highlight Virtual PC Cursor, and press the Spacebar to check the box.
5.  Press the Tab key twice to the OK button, then press the Spacebar to save changes and exit the dialog.
HTH.
 Brad -
 
 
 
Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, May 07, 2021 4:03 PM
Subject: JAWS Equivalent of NVDA Focus Highlight

Hello All,

I was working with a JAWS user remotely this evening and, as is typical, JAWS was not set up by default to highlight on screen the equivalent of where JAWS has focus in the Virtual Cursor.  I went in to Visual settings, but still couldn't make what happens with NVDA's Focus Highlight, or similar, happen in JAWS 2021.

It could be that JAWS must be restarted, but it did not give me any indication of that when I tweaked several settings.  For those of us who have sight, this sort of feature is a godsend when assisting, and particularly if we're doing so remotely and cannot actually hear JAWS at all well during the process.  There's no issue when I'm doing the pointing and clicking, but if I want the person I'm assisting to try something out, it really helps me to be able to see exactly where they are and what has focus.

Any guidance is appreciated.  (And let me tell you hiding these settings under "Utilities" in the JAWS menu structure made no sense to me!)
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: Looking for Info to Help a Friend Upgrade JFW

Dani Pagador
 

Milton,
Just for clarification, you're suggesting buying a new version of
JFW2021 and going with either the 1, 3, or 5-year subscription option?

Thanks,
Dani

On 5/7/21, Cornelius <cornelius02@gmail.com> wrote:
Also your friend has to remember that after the annual subscription expired,

he or she cannot use JAWS without paying for renewal. There are pros and
cons of annual subs versus the SMA. If you still wish to run JAWS without
worring about expired date then go for SMA. But if you are fine to renew
each time then go for annual subs.



-----Original Message-----
From: Milton Ota
Sent: Friday, May 7, 2021 8:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Looking for Info to Help a Friend Upgrade JFW

Hi,

I'll tell you that the best is to go the Annual Online Renewal and jump
right up to the 2021. If the individual goes with the SMA Service
Maintaineance Agreement he will have to pay for all the years skipped and
that is just not worth it any more for his situation. With the online portal

he can then buy a multiple year subscription for either 1, 2, 3, or 5
years.

Hope this helps.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dani Pagador
Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 7:34 PM
To: main <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Looking for Info to Help a Friend Upgrade JFW

Hi, Guys.
A friend wants to upgrade from JFW2018 to JFW2021 and asked me about the
different radio button options for payment that came up when he tried to
upgrade. Where should I look on FS/Vespero's website to understand
payment/plan options?

Thanks,
Dani
















moderated Re: browser

Randy Barnett
 

Microsoft edge also works well and seven with the current version of jaws.

Randy Barnett

On May 7, 2021, at 2:56 PM, meow meow <soberwater26q@live.com> wrote:


Rosie here....
I wonder if anyone know which browser is best for window 7:
I'm using firefox, this is not working very well to me
thanks


moderated Re: JAWS Equivalent of NVDA Focus Highlight

 

Hi,
Show virtual buffer is not the same thing as visual tracking, the settings
category Brian is talking about. According to JAWS manual (2021), you must
be running Windows 8.1 or 10 to use this feature, and theoretically you can
configure visual tracking for virtual PC cursor and/or touch cursor. Also,
try with default settings loaded (open Settings Center, then press
Control+Shift+D to select default.jcf (default settings)), then configure
options and restart JAWS.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Friday, May 7, 2021 4:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Equivalent of NVDA Focus Highlight

Maybe:

On the JAWS screen, go into the options/basics menu. There is a setting
"show virtual viewer on screen" which might be what you are looking for.

Good luck!
At 06:03 PM 5/7/2021, you wrote:
Hello All,I was working with a JAWS user remotely this evening and, as
is typical, JAWS was not set up by default to highlight on screen the
equivalent of where JAWS has focus in the Virtual Cursor. I went in
to Visual settings, but still couldn't make what happens with NVDA's
Focus Highlight, or similar, happen in JAWS 2021.It could be that JAWS
must be restarted, but it did not give me any indication of that when I
tweaked several settings. For those of us who have sight, this sort
of feature is a godsend when assisting, and particularly if we're doing
so remotely and cannot actually hear JAWS at all well during the
process. There's no issue when I'm doing the pointing and clicking,
but if I want the person I'm assisting to try something out, it really
helps me to be able to see exactly where they are and what has
focus.Any guidance is appreciated. (And let me tell you hiding these
settings under "Utilities"
in the JAWS menu structure made no sense to me!)--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042 Â

It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you
are not.

          ~ André Gide


moderated Re: JAWS Equivalent of NVDA Focus Highlight

Ann Byrne
 

Maybe:

On the JAWS screen, go into the options/basics menu. There is a setting "show virtual viewer on screen" which might be what you are looking for.

Good luck!

At 06:03 PM 5/7/2021, you wrote:
Hello All,I was working with a JAWS user remotely this evening and, as is typical, JAWS was not set up by default to highlight on screen the equivalent of where JAWS has focus in the Virtual Cursor. I went in to Visual settings, but still couldn't make what happens with NVDA's Focus Highlight, or similar, happen in JAWS 2021.It could be that JAWS must be restarted, but it did not give me any indication of that when I tweaked several settings. For those of us who have sight, this sort of feature is a godsend when assisting, and particularly if we're doing so remotely and cannot actually hear JAWS at all well during the process. There's no issue when I'm doing the pointing and clicking, but if I want the person I'm assisting to try something out, it really helps me to be able to see exactly where they are and what has focus.Any guidance is appreciated. (And let me tell you hiding these settings under "Utilities" in the JAWS menu structure made no sense to me!)--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042 Â

It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.

          ~ André Gide


moderated Re: Which version of Microsoft Teams works better with JAWS?

Jason White
 

On 6/5/21 10:02 pm, Shankar C wrote:
I'm facing a strange issue on the latest version of the teams.
when ever some1 give the ctrls to me to access there system, i'm
unable to switch to there device.
Desktop sharing features (including control of another person's system) aren't accessible with any screen reader, as they involve a graphical image of the screen/windows being transmitted to the remote side. That, at least, is my understanding. Your accessible options are JAWS Tandem and Microsoft Remote Desktop (with a suitable JAWS license for remote desktop access that needs to be purchased separately).


moderated JAWS Equivalent of NVDA Focus Highlight

 

Hello All,

I was working with a JAWS user remotely this evening and, as is typical, JAWS was not set up by default to highlight on screen the equivalent of where JAWS has focus in the Virtual Cursor.  I went in to Visual settings, but still couldn't make what happens with NVDA's Focus Highlight, or similar, happen in JAWS 2021.

It could be that JAWS must be restarted, but it did not give me any indication of that when I tweaked several settings.  For those of us who have sight, this sort of feature is a godsend when assisting, and particularly if we're doing so remotely and cannot actually hear JAWS at all well during the process.  There's no issue when I'm doing the pointing and clicking, but if I want the person I'm assisting to try something out, it really helps me to be able to see exactly where they are and what has focus.

Any guidance is appreciated.  (And let me tell you hiding these settings under "Utilities" in the JAWS menu structure made no sense to me!)
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: browser

Bill White
 

Hi, Rosie. I would use Google Chrome with Windows 7.

Bill White

billwhite92701@att.net

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of meow meow
Sent: Friday, May 7, 2021 2:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: browser


Rosie here....
I wonder if anyone know which browser is best for window 7:
I'm using firefox, this is not working very well to me
thanks


moderated Re: browser

Gerald Levy
 


Switch to Google Chrome.  It works very well in Windows 7 with JAWS.


Gerald



On 5/7/2021 5:56 PM, meow meow wrote:

Rosie here....
I wonder if anyone know which browser  is best for window 7:
I'm using firefox, this is not working very well to me
thanks







moderated Re: browser

Marty Hutchings
 

I recently got a Windows 10 computer, but when I was using Windows 7, I found that Google Chrome worked good for me.

Love In Christ

Marty

The Gospel is fully accessible for all.

On 5/7/2021 4:56 PM, meow meow wrote:

Rosie here....
I wonder if anyone know which browser  is best for window 7:
I'm using firefox, this is not working very well to me
thanks





moderated browser

meow meow
 

Rosie here....
I wonder if anyone know which browser is best for window 7:
I'm using firefox, this is not working very well to me
thanks


moderated Re: My first message using the Logitech K860 Keyboard.

Kevin Minor
 

Hi Richard.

 

I did see your explanation of the keys, and it really helped. It was how I knew where the Media toggle was, and how I got things back to normal for me. Thank you so much for such a good description of things.

 

As for where the 6 key is, I’ll get used to it. I look at it this way. I won’t be writing many numbers associated with the end times <smile>

 

Kevin and Jilly

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, May 7, 2021 5:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: My first message using the Logitech K860 Keyboard.

 

Great!

The 6 is where it is on most USB ergonomic keyboards so you use your left index finger if you are a touch typist, which does take some brain contortions for sure to break 50 plus years of habit.

 

Did you see my explanation of the keys?

Yes, device 1 is tied to the USB dongle.

 

HTH,

 

 

Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

 

Web site: www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: Friday, May 7, 2021 1:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: My first message using the Logitech K860 Keyboard.

 

Hi

I just got this keyboard delivered from Amazon today. This message is the first one I’ve typed with it, so I’m currently learning what I think. So far I like it, and I’m typing faster on it than on the K780. The design is a little different, but I’ll get used to that. The only thing that I wish was different is where the 6 is on the top row of numbers. I feel sort of like a contortionist to hit it. I’ve also learned the OFF switch is your friend. It prevents accidentally hitting a key that can make things very confusing. Let’s put it this way. I think I hit the Media key. If I did, I now know F4 is for the Calculator. Also, I needed eyes to get it paired. I don’t think DEVICE 1 works with Bluetooth, but all’s fine now. This keyboard is definitely larger than what I was using, but it’s sure nice to have the sixpack back again.

 

That’s all from me.

 

Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard.

 

Kevin and Jilly


moderated Re: Bluetooth Headset Not Reading First Dozen-or-so Characters or Line of Text

Richard Turner
 

I had to laugh out loud.

If my former coworkers heard anyone refer to my Jaws knowledge as “expertise,” they would be falling on the floor.

 

I spent years at work having to use Jaws when I would rather have been using Window-eyes and am afraid I let my work-place language slip quite a few times.

 

Since Window-Eyes will have been gone now for 6 years on May 15th, I’ve grown accustomed to Jaws’ face; whether I like it or not, grin.

 

I’m glad that helped. I only learned that setting a couple of months ago.

 

Enjoy,

 

Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

 

Web site: www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ed Culpepper
Sent: Friday, May 7, 2021 12:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Bluetooth Headset Not Reading First Dozen-or-so Characters or Line of Text

 

Right on! Thanks, Richard, for clear, concise directions for resolving this issue. Your prompt, precise steps have my Bluetooth headset performing just like my wired earbuds. Thanks for sharing your expertise.

 

J Edward Culpepper, PhD

Huntsville, Alabama

 


moderated Re: My first message using the Logitech K860 Keyboard.

Richard Turner
 

Great!

The 6 is where it is on most USB ergonomic keyboards so you use your left index finger if you are a touch typist, which does take some brain contortions for sure to break 50 plus years of habit.

 

Did you see my explanation of the keys?

Yes, device 1 is tied to the USB dongle.

 

HTH,

 

 

Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

 

Web site: www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: Friday, May 7, 2021 1:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: My first message using the Logitech K860 Keyboard.

 

Hi

I just got this keyboard delivered from Amazon today. This message is the first one I’ve typed with it, so I’m currently learning what I think. So far I like it, and I’m typing faster on it than on the K780. The design is a little different, but I’ll get used to that. The only thing that I wish was different is where the 6 is on the top row of numbers. I feel sort of like a contortionist to hit it. I’ve also learned the OFF switch is your friend. It prevents accidentally hitting a key that can make things very confusing. Let’s put it this way. I think I hit the Media key. If I did, I now know F4 is for the Calculator. Also, I needed eyes to get it paired. I don’t think DEVICE 1 works with Bluetooth, but all’s fine now. This keyboard is definitely larger than what I was using, but it’s sure nice to have the sixpack back again.

 

That’s all from me.

 

Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard.

 

Kevin and Jilly


moderated My first message using the Logitech K860 Keyboard.

Kevin Minor
 

Hi

I just got this keyboard delivered from Amazon today. This message is the first one I’ve typed with it, so I’m currently learning what I think. So far I like it, and I’m typing faster on it than on the K780. The design is a little different, but I’ll get used to that. The only thing that I wish was different is where the 6 is on the top row of numbers. I feel sort of like a contortionist to hit it. I’ve also learned the OFF switch is your friend. It prevents accidentally hitting a key that can make things very confusing. Let’s put it this way. I think I hit the Media key. If I did, I now know F4 is for the Calculator. Also, I needed eyes to get it paired. I don’t think DEVICE 1 works with Bluetooth, but all’s fine now. This keyboard is definitely larger than what I was using, but it’s sure nice to have the sixpack back again.

 

That’s all from me.

 

Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard.

 

Kevin and Jilly


moderated Re: Bluetooth Headset Not Reading First Dozen-or-so Characters or Line of Text

Jeff Christiansen
 

G A R

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ed Culpepper
Sent: Friday, May 7, 2021 1:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Bluetooth Headset Not Reading First Dozen-or-so Characters or Line of Text

 

Right on! Thanks, Richard, for clear, concise directions for resolving this issue. Your prompt, precise steps have my Bluetooth headset performing just like my wired earbuds. Thanks for sharing your expertise.

 

J Edward Culpepper, PhD

Huntsville, Alabama

 


moderated Re: Bluetooth Headset Not Reading First Dozen-or-so Characters or Line of Text

Ed Culpepper
 

Right on! Thanks, Richard, for clear, concise directions for resolving this issue. Your prompt, precise steps have my Bluetooth headset performing just like my wired earbuds. Thanks for sharing your expertise.

 

J Edward Culpepper, PhD

Huntsville, Alabama

 


moderated Re: online training on web development and word press for visually impaired.

David Diamond
 

I'd like to talk to one of those reps. I noted the requirements as outlined. It is find to say the person should be able to speak English. However, with some, you could speak English but, because English is not their first language, they are themselves, thinking in their native language and you could talk till the cows come home, they still don't understand you. Or, their accent is so strong, they are not understandable. This is not a racist comment either. Some whose first language is English, still do not have the comprehensive skills to be understood/understand what you are asking them. or, are just plain lazy. I think also, it is a buy-product of the virus. I asked a rep from a booking agency for something yesterday and, she made the sound of a horse and promptly disconnected the call. Honey, if you miss being around horses that much maybe you should return to the farm and stay off the phone lines. Stop inflating your qualifications. Then there was a website designer, whose grammatical and spelling mistakes in his email were so atrocious, I thought if he cares so little about mistakes in grammar or spelling, I don't want his help with building a website. I'd probably give him the text I wanted, and he'd butcher it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jaffar Sidek
Sent: May 7, 2021 11:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: online training on web development and word press for visually impaired.

Nope!  3USD is roughly equivalent to 321 Indian Rupies.

On 7/5/2021 10:13 pm, Alan Robbins wrote:
Interesting, I assume the $3 USD is $300?

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B.
McDonald
Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 12:38 PM
To: Richard B. McDonald <richardbmcdonald@gmail.com>
Subject: online training on web development and word press for visually impaired.

See the below email. This might be of interest.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of
accessible tech malayalam
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2021 1:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] online training on web development and word press for visually impaired.

Hello dear visually impaired friends,
Greetings from vi tech world!
Technology is developing in various different fields.
But, the future of technology is going to depend on websites and web-based systems.
We, vi tech world is starting a training on fundamentals of web development and WordPress for visually impaired learners.
Web development is a most demanded topic in the tech market since 2011.
This training is fully beginner level, and 100% accessible for visually impaired candidates.
Anyone who has intermediate computer usage experience can join this course.
Note: no programming knowledge required.

Course details.
Name: fundamentals of web development and WordPress.
Start date for registration: May 6, 2021.
End date for registration: May 11, 2021.
Cost for the training: 3 USD or 221 INR.
Course duration: 20 days.

Concepts covered
1. Fundamentals of html.
2. Fundamentals of CSS
3. Structural designing of websites for beginners.
4. Basics of domain, hosting.
5. Localhost for development.
6. Hosting/ server management.
7. SSL and Cloudflare.
8. Introduction to PHP scripts and basic installation of WordPress.
9. Fundamental setup of WordPress.
10. Designing website interface.
11. WordPress themes and plugins.
12. Registering as a freelancer for online jobs on web development.
13. Conclusion.

Prerequisites
Any visually impaired person that meets following criteria can join this training.
· Should be a visually impaired person
· Should understand English
· Should know at least basic computer skills and screen reader usage.
· Should have their own laptop/desktop with windows 10).
· Should have an active internet connection
· Should be able to give 1 hour time per day for the course.

For more info and registration, contact us:
Email: haroonkareemofficial@gmail.com
Phone; +91 7593988738
WhatsApp: +918943031760
Telegram: https://t.me/tech_explorers

--
with best regards, Haroon kareem T.K
















moderated Re: Bluetooth Headset Not Reading First Dozen-or-so Characters or Line of Text

Mario
 

the setting is also found in JAWS 2020.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Jeff Christiansen [mailto:jeff@teameei.org]
Subject: Bluetooth Headset Not Reading First Dozen-or-so Characters or Line of Text
Date: Friday, May 7, 2021, 12:34 PM
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Is this the latest JAWS update?

Previous updates had to use Silenceo, with the latest JAWS 2021,I no longer
have to use Silenceo.

Anyone else have suggestions?









From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ed Culpepper
Sent: Friday, May 7, 2021 10:23 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Bluetooth Headset Not Reading First Dozen-or-so Characters or Line
of Text



Greetings - I have recently paired my Toorun M26 Blue Bluetooth headset with
my HP laptop. I am running the latest Jaws 2021 and Windows 10 with all
updates. When I attempt to read an e-mail message or text file, the first
characters of a line of text or a whole line of text will not be read.
Sometimes I can get the whole line to read through the headset if I press
the up and down arrow keys to move off and back onto the line of text. I do
not have this problem when using wired earbuds with the HP laptop. I have
not been able to find any setting that has any effect on what is read with
the Toorun M26 headset and Jaws 2021. I have not had any problems with the
headset failing to provide audio output as expected with earbuds or headset.

Any suggestions for getting consistent reading from my headset/laptop combo?





J Edward Culpepper, PhD

Huntsville, Alabama

1941 - 1960 of 90900