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moderated Re: Lost command to bring up the Emoji panel?

Stan Bobbitt
 

Using latest Jaws 2019 and windows 10. When I hit windows key period jaws announces “emoji panel is open. Then left and right, up and down arrows and the different emojis are spoken.

😊

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2019 8:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Lost command to bring up the Emoji panel?

 

Hi Peter,

 

You didn’t say which screenreader you use, but if you use Jaws then for me also Jaws says nothing about the emoji panel opening, but it opens nonetheless and if I press right arrow or down arrow Jaws will announce whichever emoji you might be on.

I am on the Jaws Beta list and I will file a bug report, I also feel Jaws should say “Emoji Panel” or something like this to indicate it is open.

Brian, there seems to be very little delay for me, I will have to ask a sighted person to watch, but if I press Windows + Period and immediately press enter as fast as I can the 😊emoji is already inserted.

Interestingly enough just now Jaws is telling me “Emoji panel is closed” when I press Windows + Period, but when I arrow around I hear emojis and I can insert them by pressing enter. There is obviously something strange going on how Jaws gets information there, but like I said, I’ll file a bug report.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2019 6:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Lost command to bring up the Emoji panel?

 

It can be slow to appear after the keyboard shortcut is issued.  And that's even when there's not a screen reader involved.  I have no idea why this is.

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       ~ Lauren Bacall


moderated Re: Excel cannot be used with jaws2019, latest update

Chris Hill
 

It is working fine here just a little slow I would suggest contacting freedom scientific

On Jun 11, 2019, at 21:17, Jessica D <jldail13@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi
I was trying to create a spreadsheet in Microsoft excel today, and noticed that Jaws did not read anything as I was navigating. I’m using the latest update. Does anyone know what’s going on?
I’m using office 2016, through office 365.
Thanks for any and all assistance with this issue,
Jessica



moderated Excel cannot be used with jaws2019, latest update

Jessica D <jldail13@...>
 

Hi
I was trying to create a spreadsheet in Microsoft excel today, and noticed that Jaws did not read anything as I was navigating. I’m using the latest update. Does anyone know what’s going on?
I’m using office 2016, through office 365.
Thanks for any and all assistance with this issue,
Jessica


moderated Re: Excel rows and columns

Palmer Loux
 

Hello
Get to the first cell of your first column
Press insert the 0 on numpad with numlock off, and control with your right hand, with the left hand press alt and R you should hear “setting row headers”. Then press insert control with right hand and with left hand press alt and the letter C. You should head “setting Column headers” it is a 4 key press for each .

On Jun 6, 2019, at 8:29 AM, Brian Switzer <brian.switzer12@gmail.com> wrote:

Good morning,

I know this can be done somehow. How do you get JAWS to read the row and column headers in Excel? Thanks!

All the Best,
Brian Switzer

--
Palmer from CBVI


moderated Re: Wat is applications mode?

Mike B
 


Hi Tim,
 
Here's another explanation:
From: Page, Aaron
Application Mode is a mode that JAWS will enter when it begins to interact with a web application. Application Mode is designed to treat the web application as if it were a typical Windows-based program, and not as a web page. The advantage to this is that application-specific keyboard shortcuts will work without the need to use the JAWS pass-through, the disadvantage is that typical JAWS keyboard shortcuts (i.e. "H" for headings, "B" for buttons) will not work as these keystrokes are now being passed through JAWS to the application.
 
When using web applications that trigger JAWS' Application Mode, it is usually very helpful to learn keyboard shortcuts that are specific to the application in order to effectively navigate and use the application. You should also have some success (if the application is accessible) navigating the web application using tab and the arrow keys.
 
You can usually tell that you are entering an application as JAWS will announce "Application", and upon pressing Enter you should hear JAWS beep as if it just entered a form. The most frustrating thing about application mode (in my opinion) is the difficulty in getting back out of the application. I usually will press Insert+Z to set the Virtual PC Cursor to off, and then press Insert+Z again to turn the Virtual PC Cursor back on. After turning off and back on the Virtual PC Cursor you should again be able to use normal JAWS keyboard shortcuts. If anyone on-list knows a better way to exit applications mode, I would love to hear it.    
 
You can practice using applications mode  on this page: https://www.tinymce.com/. If you press "R" to move through the regions you will encounter the application region, at which point you can press Enter to enter applications mode and begin interacting with the application. This example is an HTML text editor called TinyMCE, which is a commonly used editor that uses an application region and is relatively accessible.    
 
Hope this helps!
Regards,
Aaron M. Page, B.S.
EIT Accessibility Specialist
Accessible Technology Services, University of Montana

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
No one has more to say than the woman who says she doesn't want to talk about it. 

----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Ford
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2019 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: Wat is applications mode?

Thank you!  When would I want applications mode?  I am probably not missing it, and bring it up only because JAWS put me there and I did not know how to escape!

Tim Ford


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Vaughn Brown
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2019 10:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Wat is applications mode?

Hi Tim,

Application mode is when you are in a edit field or another type of
application. If you double tap the PC cursor twice rapidly it will pop
you out of it and back into your regular functions. If you need to go
back into the application mode hit enter on the field.
HTH,
Vaughn

On 6/11/19, Tim Ford <ttford@...> wrote:
> Hello All,
>
>
>
> On a couple of web sites, when I press the PC cursor key, JAWS says
> "applications mode".  In that state, I cannot perform the usual navigations
> or do much of anything.  I have filed to find this as a JAWS help topic.
> Can someone solve this mystery for me?
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Tim Ford
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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Kindly,
Vaughn Brown
Vaughn's Percussionship
Heal through Feel Equine Massage
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http://www.vaughnbrown.net
Serving Clark County







moderated Re: Wat is applications mode?

Tim Ford
 

Thank you! When would I want applications mode? I am probably not missing it, and bring it up only because JAWS put me there and I did not know how to escape!

Tim Ford

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Vaughn Brown
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2019 10:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Wat is applications mode?

Hi Tim,

Application mode is when you are in a edit field or another type of
application. If you double tap the PC cursor twice rapidly it will pop
you out of it and back into your regular functions. If you need to go
back into the application mode hit enter on the field.
HTH,
Vaughn

On 6/11/19, Tim Ford <ttford@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello All,



On a couple of web sites, when I press the PC cursor key, JAWS says
"applications mode". In that state, I cannot perform the usual navigations
or do much of anything. I have filed to find this as a JAWS help topic.
Can someone solve this mystery for me?



Sincerely,

Tim Ford







--
Kindly,
Vaughn Brown
Vaughn's Percussionship
Heal through Feel Equine Massage
360-904-8432
http://www.vaughnbrown.net
Serving Clark County


moderated Re: Wat is applications mode?

Vaughn Brown
 

Hi Tim,

Application mode is when you are in a edit field or another type of
application. If you double tap the PC cursor twice rapidly it will pop
you out of it and back into your regular functions. If you need to go
back into the application mode hit enter on the field.
HTH,
Vaughn

On 6/11/19, Tim Ford <ttford@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello All,



On a couple of web sites, when I press the PC cursor key, JAWS says
"applications mode". In that state, I cannot perform the usual navigations
or do much of anything. I have filed to find this as a JAWS help topic.
Can someone solve this mystery for me?



Sincerely,

Tim Ford






--
Kindly,
Vaughn Brown
Vaughn's Percussionship
Heal through Feel Equine Massage
360-904-8432
http://www.vaughnbrown.net
Serving Clark County


moderated Wat is applications mode?

Tim Ford
 

Hello All,

 

On a couple of web sites, when I press the PC cursor key, JAWS says “applications mode”.  In that state, I cannot perform the usual navigations or do much of anything.  I have filed to find this as a JAWS help topic.  Can someone solve this mystery for me?

 

Sincerely,

Tim Ford

 


moderated Re: Looking for JAWS 7 training materials

David Kingsbury
 

Hello,

 

You may know this already, but there is very little you will be able to do with JAWS 7 in association with any reasonably current software, like Microsoft Office or any of the popular web browsers.Regards,

David

 


moderated Re: Bringing up the Emoji panel?

 

For me what seems to work is pressing tab, then arrow to the group you want, e.g. Most recently used, Smiley faces and animals etc.

Now I press enter and Jaws actually says “Emoji panel is open. Smiley faces and animals selected. Selected contain 8 items. Keep typing to find an emoji”

Now if I press Shift + Tab I get into the actual list of emojis and I can right arrow, down arrow and so on. But if you know what you want starting to type something like “grin” will bring up all emojis like “Grinning Face”, “Grinning Face with wide open eyes” etc.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Peter Tesar
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2019 6:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Bringing up the Emoji panel?

 

I'm playing with it now, in Notepad.

 

I noticed that after issuing the command, hitting space will bring up the panel quickly.

 

If I close the panel with     ESCAPE, and then issue the command it comes up but closed. Hitting space will open it.

 

I'm still floundering about trying to consistently get into a list of the emoji symbol for smiley faces.

 

Tabbing will get me to the list of groups, arrow right goes through the groups such as:

  Most Recently Used and smiley faces.

 

But, how to open or get into the group list of Smiley Faces?

 

Just once did I land in a list of smiley faces but I don't know what I did.

 

Peter T.

 


moderated Re: Lost command to bring up the Emoji panel?

 

Hi Peter,

 

You didn’t say which screenreader you use, but if you use Jaws then for me also Jaws says nothing about the emoji panel opening, but it opens nonetheless and if I press right arrow or down arrow Jaws will announce whichever emoji you might be on.

I am on the Jaws Beta list and I will file a bug report, I also feel Jaws should say “Emoji Panel” or something like this to indicate it is open.

Brian, there seems to be very little delay for me, I will have to ask a sighted person to watch, but if I press Windows + Period and immediately press enter as fast as I can the 😊emoji is already inserted.

Interestingly enough just now Jaws is telling me “Emoji panel is closed” when I press Windows + Period, but when I arrow around I hear emojis and I can insert them by pressing enter. There is obviously something strange going on how Jaws gets information there, but like I said, I’ll file a bug report.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2019 6:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Lost command to bring up the Emoji panel?

 

It can be slow to appear after the keyboard shortcut is issued.  And that's even when there's not a screen reader involved.  I have no idea why this is.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.

       ~ Lauren Bacall


moderated Re: Lost command to bring up the Emoji panel?

Kevin Meyers <kevinmeyers@...>
 

I pressed windows ; and the menu comes up. I tab and nothing is said. I just pressed enter after tabbing and nothing happens. I then tried windows . and the menu doesn’t come up. Is there something else I need to do to get the different categories to show?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Peter Tesar
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2019 7:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Lost command to bring up the Emoji panel?

 

Hi,

 

I thought that it was either:

  Windows plus dot

or

  Windows plus semicolon.

 

But then, I have just started using Windows 10 v1903. Maybe there's a change.

Any help will be appreciated. Thank you.

 

Peter T.


moderated Re: problem with crome and staying loggin in

John Covici
 

No, I never use any such programs.

On Mon, 10 Jun 2019 13:30:54 -0400,
Brian Vogel wrote:

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The next question is are you using a utility such as CCleaner, BleachBit, System Ninja, or the like that cleans browser cache and cookies?

Login states for individual websites are cookie managed, and I'm taking that as being the issue you're talking about: having to log in again after exiting and restarting Chrome. If it is instead about having form information for login
id/password stored by the browser, then open Chrome settings, go to the Autofill section, Passwords item then open it and see if the toggle for Offer to save passwords is ON. Also check, regardless of the state of that toggle, whether
the one immediately after it, Auto Sign-In, is toggled ON. If it isn't, you will always be asked to log in again, even if you have stored login and password credentials.
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete. If you’re alive, it isn’t.

~ Lauren Bacall

--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@ccs.covici.com


moderated Re: Bringing up the Emoji panel?

Tim Ford
 

I lost the earlier threads of this string, so I do not know how to start the process of bringing up the symbols?  Please advise.

 

Tim Ford

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2019 7:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Bringing up the Emoji panel?

 

And with further tinkering I find you must use Enter to select a category when your traversing the category choices.

Hitting spacebar, whether a screen reader is active or not, triggers an emoji search that comes up empty.  So use Enter when you want to shift the category/collection.
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.

       ~ Lauren Bacall


moderated Re: How to get to a YouTube Skip Ads popup?

Steve Nutt
 

Hi,

 

I find that if you let the ad run for about ten seconds, then the B method will work.  The Skip ad button doesn’t come up at the beginning of ads, so you have to watch a bit of them.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: 08 June 2019 01:43
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to get to a YouTube Skip Ads popup?

 

The B button works sometimes but it is just the way you tube is.
On 6/7/2019 2:52 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi,

 

Recently I’ve been having trouble with finding the Skip Ads button in YouTube. Today, several minutes into an 18 minute ad and being unable to find the Skip Ads button, I cornered a sighted coworker who easily found what they described as a Skip Ads popup button that was over the Play button area. This never announced as I tabbed and arrowed through the YouTube screen.

 

Is there a way or ways to consistently find YouTube Skip Ads buttons?

 

Thanks in advance, Keith

 


moderated Re: Looking for JAWS 7 training materials

Joseph Norton
 

Hi:

It's only the download version, and, it's so old they no longer maintain the archives.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Vaughn Brown
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2019 12:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Looking for JAWS 7 training materials

Hi there,

Have you check the training material found in the menu for this vertion?
Thank you,
Vaughn

On 6/10/19, Joseph Norton <joseph.norton@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi:



I know that FS doesn't mind copying the actual training materials,
according to their statements in the materials, so I hope someone
would be willing to help.

I have an older machine I'm running JFW 7.10 on and I wonder if
someone could help me obtain the specific training daisy files for that version.



No big deal, but, any help would be appreciated.



Thanks!





--
Kindly,
Vaughn Brown
Vaughn's Percussionship
Heal through Feel Equine Massage
360-904-8432
http://www.vaughnbrown.net
Serving Clark County


moderated Re: Bringing up the Emoji panel?

 

And with further tinkering I find you must use Enter to select a category when your traversing the category choices.

Hitting spacebar, whether a screen reader is active or not, triggers an emoji search that comes up empty.  So use Enter when you want to shift the category/collection.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.

       ~ Lauren Bacall


moderated Re: Bringing up the Emoji panel?

 

Oops, I forgot to mention that once you're on the category you want to bring up, you do have to hit Enter (spacebar would probably work, too - you're just activating the category) before you hit SHIFT+TAB to get back into the actual collection of emojis.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.

       ~ Lauren Bacall


moderated Re: Bringing up the Emoji panel?

 

If, immediately after bringing up the Emoji panel, you hit TAB, you will be thrown to the "control line" where you can choose the category of emojis you wish to review. The default being "most recently used".  Arrow to the right and you'll land on the Smiley Faces category.  Hit SHIFT+Tab and you're back in the actual selection section where you can left/right/up/down arrow among the emoji being shown.

There are categories other than smiley faces, and if you right arrow over you'll hear all of them until you hit the last one.  I didn't test to see whether you stop at the last one or it circles back to "most recently used".

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.

       ~ Lauren Bacall


moderated Re: Bringing up the Emoji panel?

Peter Tesar
 

I'm playing with it now, in Notepad.


I noticed that after issuing the command, hitting space will bring up the panel quickly.


If I close the panel with     ESCAPE, and then issue the command it comes up but closed. Hitting space will open it.


I'm still floundering about trying to consistently get into a list of the emoji symbol for smiley faces.


Tabbing will get me to the list of groups, arrow right goes through the groups such as:

  Most Recently Used and smiley faces.


But, how to open or get into the group list of Smiley Faces?


Just once did I land in a list of smiley faces but I don't know what I did.


Peter T.


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