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moderated JAWS versus NVDA on Kindle PC

Orlando Enrique Fiol
 

Hi all. After downloading Kindle books, JaWS reads nothing on the screen while NVDA reads it all. Is there any way to improve JAWS' performance with the Kindle PC app?


Orlando Enrique Fiol


moderated Re: how can i make sure that my replies are beeing read?

Jschliff@...
 

Test

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 9:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how can i make sure that my replies are beeing read?

 

On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 02:45 AM, David Ingram wrote:

I am using webmail.  I plan on changing that soon.  I plan to go back to using outlook

Well, whatever you did to post the above reply is what you should keep doing as it resulted in your content being top-posted above the quoted message(s).
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.

         ~ Eric Hoffer


moderated Re: how can i make sure that my replies are beeing read?

 

On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 02:45 AM, David Ingram wrote:
I am using webmail.  I plan on changing that soon.  I plan to go back to using outlook
Well, whatever you did to post the above reply is what you should keep doing as it resulted in your content being top-posted above the quoted message(s).
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.

         ~ Eric Hoffer


moderated Re: Problem With Outlook 2016 Message List View

Kevin Meyers <kevinmeyers@...>
 

Sorry list! I accidenly sent the email below to this list.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Meyers
Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 8:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Problem With Outlook 2016 Message List View

 

Ron, I’m a butt head. In the prior email I said unsubscribe-blind_cycling@... doesn’t work. That is correct. I then said I thought it was jfw+unsubscribe-blind_cycling@.... That doesn’t work. I was mixing up the Jaws list forum and the blind cycling one. So what could be the unscribe email address be?

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 8:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Problem With Outlook 2016 Message List View

 

It probably will, I have seen this from time to time myself and this always fixes the issue, in fact, quite often shutting down Outlook, restarting Jaws and then opening Outlook again will as well

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 9:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Problem With Outlook 2016 Message List View

 

Sieghard:

 

In a post early this morning, I indicated that an overnight shut-down  and later re-boot seems to have solved the problem.

 

Hopefully, that will remain true.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 11:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Problem With Outlook 2016 Message List View

 

Does this persist after a reboot?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, September 2, 2019 6:01 PM
To: jfw list <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Problem With Outlook 2016 Message List View

 

Hello, everyone.

 

I don’t know if this has been caused by a recent Office 365 update, but my message list view in Outlook no longer displays complete header info about e-mails as I arrow up and down the list.

 

I can get the time of the message, and the subject, but that’s it.

 

I usually like to hear the date and other information.

 

I have made sure my screen is maximized.

 

I also went into the folder view menu, and made sure my folder pane was set to normal, and my reading pane was set to off.

 

What step am I missing here?

 

I’m using Windows 10 version 1803, the latest build of Jaws 2019, and Outlook 2016 under Office 365.

 

Thanks!

 

Tom Behler

 


moderated Re: Problem With Outlook 2016 Message List View

Kevin Meyers <kevinmeyers@...>
 

Ron, I’m a butt head. In the prior email I said unsubscribe-blind_cycling@... doesn’t work. That is correct. I then said I thought it was jfw+unsubscribe-blind_cycling@.... That doesn’t work. I was mixing up the Jaws list forum and the blind cycling one. So what could be the unscribe email address be?

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 8:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Problem With Outlook 2016 Message List View

 

It probably will, I have seen this from time to time myself and this always fixes the issue, in fact, quite often shutting down Outlook, restarting Jaws and then opening Outlook again will as well

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 9:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Problem With Outlook 2016 Message List View

 

Sieghard:

 

In a post early this morning, I indicated that an overnight shut-down  and later re-boot seems to have solved the problem.

 

Hopefully, that will remain true.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 11:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Problem With Outlook 2016 Message List View

 

Does this persist after a reboot?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, September 2, 2019 6:01 PM
To: jfw list <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Problem With Outlook 2016 Message List View

 

Hello, everyone.

 

I don’t know if this has been caused by a recent Office 365 update, but my message list view in Outlook no longer displays complete header info about e-mails as I arrow up and down the list.

 

I can get the time of the message, and the subject, but that’s it.

 

I usually like to hear the date and other information.

 

I have made sure my screen is maximized.

 

I also went into the folder view menu, and made sure my folder pane was set to normal, and my reading pane was set to off.

 

What step am I missing here?

 

I’m using Windows 10 version 1803, the latest build of Jaws 2019, and Outlook 2016 under Office 365.

 

Thanks!

 

Tom Behler

 


moderated Re: Problem With Outlook 2016 Message List View

 

It probably will, I have seen this from time to time myself and this always fixes the issue, in fact, quite often shutting down Outlook, restarting Jaws and then opening Outlook again will as well

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 9:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Problem With Outlook 2016 Message List View

 

Sieghard:

 

In a post early this morning, I indicated that an overnight shut-down  and later re-boot seems to have solved the problem.

 

Hopefully, that will remain true.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 11:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Problem With Outlook 2016 Message List View

 

Does this persist after a reboot?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, September 2, 2019 6:01 PM
To: jfw list <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Problem With Outlook 2016 Message List View

 

Hello, everyone.

 

I don’t know if this has been caused by a recent Office 365 update, but my message list view in Outlook no longer displays complete header info about e-mails as I arrow up and down the list.

 

I can get the time of the message, and the subject, but that’s it.

 

I usually like to hear the date and other information.

 

I have made sure my screen is maximized.

 

I also went into the folder view menu, and made sure my folder pane was set to normal, and my reading pane was set to off.

 

What step am I missing here?

 

I’m using Windows 10 version 1803, the latest build of Jaws 2019, and Outlook 2016 under Office 365.

 

Thanks!

 

Tom Behler

 


moderated Re: Outlook 2016 Message List View Header Problem Has Returned

Tom Behler
 

Jason:

 

I have no idea what the office 365 monthly channel is.  Can you or someone explain briefly?

 

If you’d rather write off list, my e-mail address is:

 

tombehler@...

 

Thanks!

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jason White via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 8:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io; 'jfw list' <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Re: Outlook 2016 Message List View Header Problem Has Returned

 

It’s working fine here with current Office 365, Windows 10, and JAWS 2019 (latest update). If you aren’t on the Office 365 monthly channel, try switching to that and upgrading.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 8:55 PM
To: jfw list <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Outlook 2016 Message List View Header Problem Has Returned

 

Hello, everyone.

 

You may recall that yesterday, I mentioned a problem with Jaws not reading the full headers in an e-mail when going through a list view on my Outlook e-mail folders.

 

I now get only the subject line, the time of the message, and the size.  The date of the message is missing.

 

My folder pane is set to normal, and my reading pane is set to off.

 

Interestingly, if I shut down and re-boot my computer, messages are listed normally for a while, but eventually, the partial listing issue returns.

 

I am convinced that this has something to do with a recent Offidce 365 update, since the problem has only occurred for the past few days.

 

I’d appreciate knowing if anyone else has experienced this issue, and what you have done as a more permanent fix.

 

I’m using the latest build of Jaws 2019 on this Windows 10 PC.  My windows 10 version is version 1809.

 

Thank you!

 

Tom Behler

 


moderated Re: Outlook 2016 Message List View Header Problem Has Returned

Jason White
 

It’s working fine here with current Office 365, Windows 10, and JAWS 2019 (latest update). If you aren’t on the Office 365 monthly channel, try switching to that and upgrading.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 8:55 PM
To: jfw list <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Outlook 2016 Message List View Header Problem Has Returned

 

Hello, everyone.

 

You may recall that yesterday, I mentioned a problem with Jaws not reading the full headers in an e-mail when going through a list view on my Outlook e-mail folders.

 

I now get only the subject line, the time of the message, and the size.  The date of the message is missing.

 

My folder pane is set to normal, and my reading pane is set to off.

 

Interestingly, if I shut down and re-boot my computer, messages are listed normally for a while, but eventually, the partial listing issue returns.

 

I am convinced that this has something to do with a recent Offidce 365 update, since the problem has only occurred for the past few days.

 

I’d appreciate knowing if anyone else has experienced this issue, and what you have done as a more permanent fix.

 

I’m using the latest build of Jaws 2019 on this Windows 10 PC.  My windows 10 version is version 1809.

 

Thank you!

 

Tom Behler

 


moderated I'm using earthlink.net webmail.

David Ingram
 

Hi list members, i'm using earthlink.net with webmail. I can't seem to get the problem of posting replies to go to the top. I'm not sure what I should do here. If I were using outlook as an example no one would have a problem with how the messages are posting. I'm going to see what I can do if anything to correct the problem that I've been having.


moderated I'm using webmail but that should be changing soon.

David Ingram
 

Hi list members, i'm writing to let you know that i'm using webmail in order to write messages. I'm not sure if the webmail has commands semular to those that we would use when using outlook or some other e mail program. I'm sorry that my messages are not being posted where they should be but I don't know all the commands to change things here. I will try again to get some assistance to see that things are posting the way that they should until I get back to using outlook.


moderated Re: how can i make sure that my replies are beeing read?

David Ingram
 

I am using webmail.  I plan on changing that soon.  I plan to go back to using outlook.

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Sep 3, 2019 3:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how can i make sure that my replies are beeing read?

On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 04:13 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Then why is he bottom posting?
Most likely because he's using a webmail interfact that is behaving atypically (at least these days).  Gmail's web interface has placed you above the quoted material, which is initially not displayed unless you hit the triple dot button to make it do so) for as long as I can remember.

Until or unless we get an answer as to exactly what's being used this is all just random shots in the dark.  We need to know what webmail.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.

         ~ Eric Hoffer


moderated FW: Help gather accessibility data

Kevin Meyers <kevinmeyers@...>
 

Hello,

 

Below is a few links to survey’s for digital accessibility. I have taken similar survey’s in the past.

 

Cheers,

 

Kevin

 

 

 

From: Vivienne Conway <v.conway@...>
Sent: Monday, September 2, 2019 5:19 AM
To: w3c-wai-ig@...
Subject: Help gather accessibility data

 

Dear Colleagues,

 

Firstly, please accept my apologies for any cross-posting if you have already seen this request.  Secondly, please be aware that this is not a W3C or WAI activity, but I have cleared it with EOWG to distribute to you as we plan to share the results with everyone when the results are in.

 

We are conducting research about changes in behaviour around digital accessibility. There are two surveys, one is to get an update on the user experience, whether people are letting website owners know of website accessibility issues and if the issues are resolved, and the other one is much needed update to organisational attitudes. 

 

Would you be willing to complete both surveys and be willing to help with distribution? There is no commercial content in the surveys and nothing identifiable will be shared. We are actually hoping we get thousands of responses – it is ambitious, I know.  People don’t really like completing surveys, but at the moment I haven’t been able to get this data anywhere so thought we’d just do some research to collect the data we need for our research papers. The surveys are very short – only 3-4 minutes average.

 

Here are the survey links.

 

Understanding the Digital User Experience

 

Digital Accessibility for Organisations

 

Here are some other methods to share:

 

 

 

Thank you so much for your help with this project.  We will make the data available to everyone once it is collated, so that you can use it to further the case for digital accessibility.

 

 

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Dr Vivienne Conway, F ACS (CP)

Director

 

Web Key IT Pty Ltd

PO BOX 681 Wanneroo, WA 6946

Phone:    (08) 9206 3987

Mobile:   0415 383 673  

Email:       v.conway@...

Website:  www.webkeyit.com

 

 

 

This communication, including any attachments, is intended solely for the named addressee. It is confidential and may be subject to legal professional privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact me immediately by reply email, delete it from your system and destroy any copies. This email is subject to copyright, no part of it should be reproduced, adapted or transmitted without the prior written consent of the copyright owner. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of Web Key IT Pty Ltd.

 

 

 


moderated Outlook 2016 Message List View Header Problem Has Returned

Tom Behler
 

Hello, everyone.

 

You may recall that yesterday, I mentioned a problem with Jaws not reading the full headers in an e-mail when going through a list view on my Outlook e-mail folders.

 

I now get only the subject line, the time of the message, and the size.  The date of the message is missing.

 

My folder pane is set to normal, and my reading pane is set to off.

 

Interestingly, if I shut down and re-boot my computer, messages are listed normally for a while, but eventually, the partial listing issue returns.

 

I am convinced that this has something to do with a recent Offidce 365 update, since the problem has only occurred for the past few days.

 

I’d appreciate knowing if anyone else has experienced this issue, and what you have done as a more permanent fix.

 

I’m using the latest build of Jaws 2019 on this Windows 10 PC.  My windows 10 version is version 1809.

 

Thank you!

 

Tom Behler

 


moderated Re: Can I use Instacart on my laptop and with JAWS?

Andy
 

I generally use my phone and the instacart app, but I have looked at the web site and it appears to be accessible as far as viewing stores in your area, etc. but I have not placed an order using the PC.
 
Andy
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Ford
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2019 2:49 PM
Subject: Can I use Instacart on my laptop and with JAWS?

Hello All,

 

Has anyone used JAWS on a PC to access Instacart? 

 

Tim Ford

 


moderated Re: Can I use Instacart on my laptop and with JAWS?

Onwardbob
 

I do, using J-2019 and either Google Chrome or Firefox. It won't work with
I.E.

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2019 2:49 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Can I use Instacart on my laptop and with JAWS?

Hello All,



Has anyone used JAWS on a PC to access Instacart?



Tim Ford


moderated Re: Can I use Instacart on my laptop and with JAWS?

Barbara <batterseye@...>
 

You may get different opinions on your question.  For me, it was very tough to use it on my computer.  It was much easier on my IPhone.

 

Barbara

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2019 4:49 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Can I use Instacart on my laptop and with JAWS?

 

Hello All,

 

Has anyone used JAWS on a PC to access Instacart? 

 

Tim Ford

 


moderated Can I use Instacart on my laptop and with JAWS?

Tim Ford
 

Hello All,

 

Has anyone used JAWS on a PC to access Instacart? 

 

Tim Ford

 


moderated Re: how can i make sure that my replies are beeing read?

 

On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 04:13 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Then why is he bottom posting?
Most likely because he's using a webmail interfact that is behaving atypically (at least these days).  Gmail's web interface has placed you above the quoted material, which is initially not displayed unless you hit the triple dot button to make it do so) for as long as I can remember.

Until or unless we get an answer as to exactly what's being used this is all just random shots in the dark.  We need to know what webmail.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.

         ~ Eric Hoffer


moderated Re: how can i make sure that my replies are beeing read?

Glenn / Lenny
 

Then why is he bottom posting?
I doubt that David is doing that on purpose.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario" <mrb620@hotmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2019 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: how can i make sure that my replies are beeing read?


not true. in an email client, after invoking the action to reply
(usually pressing control+r), you should be placed at the top of the
body field where you can start typing your reply. there's no need to
press control+home first.



-------- Original Message --------
From: Glenn / Lenny [mailto:glennervin@cableone.net]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, September 3, 2019, 3:16 PM
Subject: how can i make sure that my replies are beeing read?
David,
If your settings are set to not include the original message, you need
to change that.
Then, when you get into the body that you are planning on typing into,
first press control + home, and that should send you to the top of the
edit field.
Then your message will be on top as it should be.
This is true too for eMail clients, if you don't have your settings set
to put the message you are replying to at the bottom, press control +
home before typing.

Glenn

----- Original Message ----- From: "David Ingram"
<dingram269@earthlink.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2019 1:59 PM
Subject: how can i make sure that my replies are beeing read?


Hi list members, i'm using a webmail program to write messages, my
question is how do I make sure that the replies are at the top of the
message?







.





moderated Re: how can i make sure that my replies are beeing read?

 

Which brings me back to my initial question:   What webmail are we talking about here?

Clearly it matters, as the behavior that Mr. Ingram seems to be having is, in my experience, atypical.   It is hard to give accurate advice without knowing the actual operating scenario.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.

         ~ Eric Hoffer

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