Date   
Re: Using Windows defender

kevin meyers
 

Thanks!

 

Kevin Meyers

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Ingram
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 2:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Windows defender

 

Hi, after you've done a scan on your system if everything is fine then you would get nothing.  If something was rong then there would be something saying that viruses were found and what you need to do to get rid of the viruses,  also might I add that from time to time you should do a full scan of your system.  It takes longer than the quick scan, but at least you've scanned your computer and no viruses are found.

-----Original Message-----
From: kevin meyers
Sent: Jul 26, 2018 12:44 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Using Windows defender


Re: Skype eight (8) commands..

Nermin
 

Hi Steve,

same for me.
What's more, when I'm composing a message in Windows Live Mail, I always get the stupid layered Skype key in stead of the letter, which is a German u umlaut.
I Cannot even change the key combination to something different.

Regards,
Nermin

latest mp3directcut and Jaws 2018

Tom <tomcat509@...>
 

Hi,Has anyone got a text tutorial for the latest version of mp3directcut they could send me? Even a list of keyboard commands would be great.

 

After doing numerous Google searches, all that came up was some videos using the mouse on how to use the program but attempting to cut an mp3 file with Jaws is vastly different.

 

I have an musical mp3 file which has a lot of clapping and talk at the end of the track which would be great if the last few minutes could be removed. Hitting the spacebar and touches of the right arrow takes me to the spot where the cut needs to be done but after that I get lost.

 

Hoping someone can help.

 

Thanks

Tom

  

 

Re: Using Windows defender

David Ingram
 

Hi, after you've done a scan on your system if everything is fine then you would get nothing.  If something was rong then there would be something saying that viruses were found and what you need to do to get rid of the viruses,  also might I add that from time to time you should do a full scan of your system.  It takes longer than the quick scan, but at least you've scanned your computer and no viruses are found.

-----Original Message-----
From: kevin meyers
Sent: Jul 26, 2018 12:44 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Using Windows defender

Hello, I’m using Windows 10 and Jaws2018. I did a scan using Windows Defender. I never got any messages saying there was or wasn’t any viruses. I looked in history and nothing shows up. Do I need to look somewhere else?

 

Kevin Meyers

 

Re: Skype eight (8) commands..

Steve Matzura
 

On 7/26/2018 1:50 PM, Terrie Terlau wrote:
Hello Steve,
Thanks so much for the html table of skype 8 commands!!!!!
This is so easy to use.
Best,
Terrie Terlau
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 12:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Skype eight (8) commands..

For those who like these kinds of things, here's an HTML table with the
recently posted Skype 8 shortcut key commands.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/hbeawdod8bbf83z/Skype%208%20Commands.html?dl=1
I wish I could get my Skype 8.25 to work! Doug Lee's scripts keep telling me I have the Chrome settings loaded, and none of his shortcuts, not to mention the ones in my table, work at all. Very frustrating.

Re: Amazon.com "Cart" page

 

William,

           Thanks.  I'll give that a try.  I have absolutely nothing against whatever works and spent quite a bit of time today trying a lot of what didn't work.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill

Re: Amazon.com "Cart" page

Robin Frost
 

Hi,I giggle out of empathy. I so identify with every word you’ve written sir (smile).
Robin
 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 9:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Amazon.com "Cart" page
 
Robin,

            Thanks much.  As perverse as it sounds knowing that the insanity I'm experiencing is consistent is a comfort of sorts.  There are times when I become convinced that I must have overlooked something rather than thinking "this website is an accessibility nightmare."  It's not that I wish accessibility nightmares on anyone, but knowing that's what's going on is a screwed up website restores my sanity (as much as it can be restored).

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill

Re: Does AIM Work with JAWS?

HH. Smith Jr.
 

Hi Annabelle,

 

If you know their cellphone number, this list will help:

 

Carrier

Domain

AT&T

@txt.att.net (SMS)

@mms.att.net (MMS)

Verizon

@vtext.com (SMS)

@vzwpix.com (MMS)

T-Mobile

@tmomail.net

Sprint

@messaging.sprintpcs.com (SMS)

[personalized name]@pm.sprint.com (MMS)

Alltel

@message.alltel.com

BellSouth Mobility

@blsdcs.net

Blue Sky Frog

@blueskyfrog.com

Boost Mobile

@myboostmobile.com

Cellular South

@csouth1.com

Cellular One West

@mycellone.com

Cellular One

@mobile.celloneusa.com

Cincinnati Bell

@gocbw.com

Cricket

@sms.mycricket.com (SMS)

@mms.mycricket.com (MMS)

Edge Wireless

@sms.edgewireless.com

Einstein PCS

@einsteinsms.com

Metro PCS

@mymetropcs.com

Nextel

@messaging.nextel.com

Orange

@orange.net

Pagenet

@pagenet.pagenet.ca

PCS Rogers

@pcs.rogers.com

Powertel

@voicestream.net

PSC Wireless

@sms.pscel.com

Qualcomm

@pager.qualcomm.com

Qwest

@qwestmp.com

Satelindo GSM

@satelindogsm.com

Safaricom

@safaricomsms.com

Simple Freedom

@text.simplefreedom.net

Skytel-Alphanumeric

@skytel.com

Smart Telecom

@mysmart.mymobile.ph

SunCom

@tms.suncom.com

SureWest Communications

@mobile.surewest.com

SwissCom Mobile

@bluewin.ch

U.S. Cellular

@email.uscc.net

USA Mobility

@usamobility.net

Virgin Mobile Canada

@vmobile.ca

Virgin Mobile USA

@vmobile.com

Weblink Wireless

@airmessage.net

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, July 9, 2018 1:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Does AIM Work with JAWS?

 

You might check this out. An article about instant messaging for computer.

 

https://www.eztalks.com/video-conference/instant-messaging-apps-for-pc.html

 

Richard

 

"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain



 


On Jul 8, 2018, at 9:41 PM, Annabelle Susan Morison <foristnights@...> wrote:

I don't have a cell phone. Just a landline and a computer.

 


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2018 9:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Does AIM Work with JAWS?

 

What about simply texting someone. But, if you are wanting to do this from a computer, I'm not sure.

Richard

 

"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain



 


On Jul 8, 2018, at 8:59 PM, Matthew Bullis <matthewbullisaz@...> wrote:

Hmm, not sure. I think maybe apps like Facebook Messenger or an app like WhatsApp are the things people are using nowadays.

Matthew

 


On Jul 8, 2018, at 6:48 PM, Annabelle Susan Morison <foristnights@...> wrote:

If that's the case, are there any equivalents?

 


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Matthew Bullis
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2018 6:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Does AIM Work with JAWS?

I think the issue is the connection to the service. If you found an old executable of the program, it probably wouldn't have anything it could connect to. Seems to me I heard that service was discontinued, and when I heard this, I wondered how long people had been using it. I stopped using it in about 2001.


On Jul 8, 2018, at 6:39 PM, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:

Hi, Annabelle. I just checked OldApps.com and OldVersion.com, and AIM wasn’t on either of them. Why not try putting AIM, download into Google and see if anyone still has it.

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Sunday, July 8, 2018 6:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Does AIM Work with JAWS?

So there's no chance of having older versions still out there?


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2018 6:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Does AIM Work with JAWS?

Hi, Annabelle. I think AIM has been discontinued since about 2016.

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Sunday, July 8, 2018 6:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Does AIM Work with JAWS?

Hi, it's Annabelle.

I used to have AIM on my computer, but unfortunately it was lost when my laptop's motherboard went out. This was almost 9 years ago when I had an old IBM Thinkpad. Which brings me to my questions.

1. Is AIM still available to download or purchase? If so, where can I find it?

2. Does it work with any versions of JAWS? I have all versions of JAWS from 3.7 all the way up to JAWS 15.

Re: Amazon.com "Cart" page

William Vandervest
 

As regards navigating the Amazon cart page, I just move thru the page by pressing “G” and moving by graphic, I don’t ever recall having the delete link or button not working

 

Using win10, I E 11, and JFW2018, all latest builds and updates, 64bit system

 

Re: Trouble activating links in firefox

Kimber Gardner
 

Do you mean shift plus enter to activate a link? I’ve never tried it. But i will now.

Sent from Kimber's iPhone

The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that we go on.—Annie Proulx


On Jul 26, 2018, at 4:21 PM, Don Mauck <don.mauck@...> wrote:

Not in Fire Fox, however, I have in IE11. Just wondering what shift+inter does for you.

-----Original Message-----
From: Kimber Gardner <kimbersinbox1963@...>
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 1:43 PM
To: main <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Trouble activating links in firefox

Hi All,

I'm wondering if anyone else has had trouble activating links in the most recent release of firefox. I'm using it with version 2018 of jaws. When it first happened I thought it was just a poorly designed web site. But when it continued on sites I know are usually fine I began to wonder about the cause. Is it jaws? Is it firefox? Is it the two together?

Has anyone else seen this behavior?

Thanks,
Kim

--
Kimberly






Re: Amazon.com "Cart" page

 

Robin,

            Thanks much.  As perverse as it sounds knowing that the insanity I'm experiencing is consistent is a comfort of sorts.  There are times when I become convinced that I must have overlooked something rather than thinking "this website is an accessibility nightmare."  It's not that I wish accessibility nightmares on anyone, but knowing that's what's going on is a screwed up website restores my sanity (as much as it can be restored).

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill

Re: Trouble activating links in firefox

Kimber Gardner
 

Hmm, good to know it isn’t just me. I’m thinking of going back to an older version of firefox and jaws because this is really annoying.

Sent from Kimber's iPhone

The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that we go on.—Annie Proulx


On Jul 26, 2018, at 4:43 PM, Cristóbal <cristobalmuli@...> wrote:

Quite noticeable with JFW 2018 and Firefox. I'll either get thrown to the taskbar (almost always with the "see more stories" link in FB mobile) or I have to tab first to make sure focus is on the right link first. Another issue I have is with The Old Reader. If I'm in a particular feed and have clicked on an entry/header to expand it and then wish to click on another separate heading/entry, Jaws just wont' do it. No matter what I try. VFO has told me that they can't do anything about this since it's a paid site and to provide an example where they can access it as well...
Links have been funky in general ever since JFW 2018 though. Not just this most recent update for me at least. The Old reader thing only started showing up with Firefox 60.x.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 12:43 PM
To: main <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Trouble activating links in firefox

Hi All,

I'm wondering if anyone else has had trouble activating links in the most recent release of firefox. I'm using it with version 2018 of jaws. When it first happened I thought it was just a poorly designed web site. But when it continued on sites I know are usually fine I began to wonder about the cause. Is it jaws? Is it firefox? Is it the two together?

Has anyone else seen this behavior?

Thanks,
Kim

--
Kimberly







Re: Amazon.com "Cart" page

Robin Frost
 

Hi,
The text of the disability oriented link you referred to by me says:
Click to call our Disability Customer Support line, or reach us directly at 1-888-283-1678”
 
Sadly let me say from the outset I come not to offer help exactly but rather to say I’ve experienced similar inconsistencies in Amazon land. I’ve also never encountered so many elements that don’t report as buttons or links but rather words which if you’re adventurous enough to try and click upon might or might not do something depending on the day or the direction of the wind or any other random thing you can imagine. I also regularly experience links on the Amazon site reported correctly by screen readers even when clicking on them with whatever manner of your choosing but resulting in you landing on an unintended destination page. It is positively maddening and happens on that site more than anywhere else no matter the browser or screen reader in use.
amazon has made great strides in the accessibility of many of its own products but sadly their attention to their main site seems woefully neglected.
I hope you and we all see some improvement on this one day.
Robin
 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 7:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Amazon.com "Cart" page
 
Hello All,

        During a session today I encountered something I've never encountered before with JAWS:  An inaccessible link that's clearly visible to me.   In addition I could not find a workaround that allowed for what I consider a reasonable way to hear the list of what's in your cart.

         I would have expected that the item links that show up in the cart would have been implemented as headings, much like the item links are all headings at level 2 on the search results page.  They don't show up in the headings list, though.  The closest I can get to the items list is to go to the Shopping Cart heading and start reading from there.  For each item in the cart there exists a "Delete" link which allows you to do exactly what it says.  Almost anyone has occasional need or desire to nuke an item or items from their cart, but I can find absolutely no way to access these Delete links for each item.  They do not show up even in the list of links for the page.  In playing with this same page with NVDA the results are the same when I look at either a list of the headings or links.  What's interesting though is if I change the element being looked at to "Form Fields" these delete links show up in that list.  If these things are form fields then they're the best disguised form fields I've ever seen.  They are visually presented as links and I'd expect they'd be in a list of links, not form fields.  They also show up in NVDA's list of Buttons, and they certainly are not presented as buttons.  I've done the NVDA experimentation this evening, at my leisure, so I had no idea about this when I first encountered it.  It still seems utterly bizarre.

         What, if anything, am I doing wrong here?

         It's also interesting to see how Amazon went overboard with alternate text for item images.  When you get JAWS to begin reading the cart in its long and meandering way the full item name is always presented twice since the alternate text for the item image is a word for word copy of the click-through text used for the item link itself.  It makes the whole process of even trying to review one's cart incredibly tedious.  I notice that when JAWS is being used there is a link that shows up for Disability Support (or a very similar phrase) and I can't seem to find that using NVDA, but I could also be on a different version of the cart page than I was looking at earlier today.

          If anyone knows "the collection of slick tricks" for efficiently interacting with the Amazon Cart page I'd love to hear them.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill

Re: Skype eight (8) commands..

David Moore
 

Hi all!

I just want to point out that all of those commands do the same in the MS app for skype!

David Moore

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Terrie Terlau
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 1:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Skype eight (8) commands..

 

 

Hello Steve,

Thanks so much for the html table of skype 8 commands!!!!!

This is so easy to use.

Best,

Terrie Terlau

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura

Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 12:03 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Skype eight (8) commands..

 

For those who like these kinds of things, here's an HTML table with the

recently posted Skype 8 shortcut key commands.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/hbeawdod8bbf83z/Skype%208%20Commands.html?dl=1

 

 

 

 

 

 

Amazon.com "Cart" page

 

Hello All,

        During a session today I encountered something I've never encountered before with JAWS:  An inaccessible link that's clearly visible to me.   In addition I could not find a workaround that allowed for what I consider a reasonable way to hear the list of what's in your cart.

         I would have expected that the item links that show up in the cart would have been implemented as headings, much like the item links are all headings at level 2 on the search results page.  They don't show up in the headings list, though.  The closest I can get to the items list is to go to the Shopping Cart heading and start reading from there.  For each item in the cart there exists a "Delete" link which allows you to do exactly what it says.  Almost anyone has occasional need or desire to nuke an item or items from their cart, but I can find absolutely no way to access these Delete links for each item.  They do not show up even in the list of links for the page.  In playing with this same page with NVDA the results are the same when I look at either a list of the headings or links.  What's interesting though is if I change the element being looked at to "Form Fields" these delete links show up in that list.  If these things are form fields then they're the best disguised form fields I've ever seen.  They are visually presented as links and I'd expect they'd be in a list of links, not form fields.  They also show up in NVDA's list of Buttons, and they certainly are not presented as buttons.  I've done the NVDA experimentation this evening, at my leisure, so I had no idea about this when I first encountered it.  It still seems utterly bizarre.

         What, if anything, am I doing wrong here?

         It's also interesting to see how Amazon went overboard with alternate text for item images.  When you get JAWS to begin reading the cart in its long and meandering way the full item name is always presented twice since the alternate text for the item image is a word for word copy of the click-through text used for the item link itself.  It makes the whole process of even trying to review one's cart incredibly tedious.  I notice that when JAWS is being used there is a link that shows up for Disability Support (or a very similar phrase) and I can't seem to find that using NVDA, but I could also be on a different version of the cart page than I was looking at earlier today.

          If anyone knows "the collection of slick tricks" for efficiently interacting with the Amazon Cart page I'd love to hear them.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill

Re: Using Windows defender

Pat Byrne
 

Kevin,
I read recently that Windows Defender and WIN10 only lookee for a portion of what you would like scanned/removed. The suggestion was to use Windows Security Essentials.
I'm sorry I don't remember the details or where I read it.
Good luck.
Pat ByrneAt 12:44 PM 7/26/2018, you wrote:

Hello, I'm using Windows 10 and Jaws2018. I did a scan using Windows Defender. I never got any messages saying there was or wasn't any viruses. I looked in history and nothing shows up. Do I need to look somewhere else?

Kevin Meyers

Using Windows defender

kevin meyers
 

Hello, I’m using Windows 10 and Jaws2018. I did a scan using Windows Defender. I never got any messages saying there was or wasn’t any viruses. I looked in history and nothing shows up. Do I need to look somewhere else?

 

Kevin Meyers

 

Re: Editing cells in Excel 2016

kevin meyers
 

I have experienced the same thing. Unable to find a correction.

 

Kevin Meyers

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 6:23 AM
To: JFWList <jfw@groups.IO>
Subject: Editing cells in Excel 2016

 

Using Win 1803 and latest Jaws 2018 I run into a strange situation when trying to edit cell contents in excel within MS Office 2016

Whether the cell contains text or a formula, some cells can be edited by dressing F2 and then arrowing back and forth making necessary corrections. However, other cells doing the same only reads the entire cell contents when arrowing either way. No pattern or consistency to this behavior. Have others experienced this too? Any work arounds?

 

Best,

Al

Re: Trouble activating links in firefox

Cristóbal
 

Quite noticeable with JFW 2018 and Firefox. I'll either get thrown to the taskbar (almost always with the "see more stories" link in FB mobile) or I have to tab first to make sure focus is on the right link first. Another issue I have is with The Old Reader. If I'm in a particular feed and have clicked on an entry/header to expand it and then wish to click on another separate heading/entry, Jaws just wont' do it. No matter what I try. VFO has told me that they can't do anything about this since it's a paid site and to provide an example where they can access it as well...
Links have been funky in general ever since JFW 2018 though. Not just this most recent update for me at least. The Old reader thing only started showing up with Firefox 60.x.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 12:43 PM
To: main <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Trouble activating links in firefox

Hi All,

I'm wondering if anyone else has had trouble activating links in the most recent release of firefox. I'm using it with version 2018 of jaws. When it first happened I thought it was just a poorly designed web site. But when it continued on sites I know are usually fine I began to wonder about the cause. Is it jaws? Is it firefox? Is it the two together?

Has anyone else seen this behavior?

Thanks,
Kim

--
Kimberly

Re: Trouble activating links in firefox

Don Mauck
 

Not in Fire Fox, however, I have in IE11. Just wondering what shift+inter does for you.

-----Original Message-----
From: Kimber Gardner <kimbersinbox1963@...>
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 1:43 PM
To: main <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Trouble activating links in firefox

Hi All,

I'm wondering if anyone else has had trouble activating links in the most recent release of firefox. I'm using it with version 2018 of jaws. When it first happened I thought it was just a poorly designed web site. But when it continued on sites I know are usually fine I began to wonder about the cause. Is it jaws? Is it firefox? Is it the two together?

Has anyone else seen this behavior?

Thanks,
Kim

--
Kimberly