Date   

Re: NewW10 update

 

And if the update attempted to apply but failed I would not try rushing to get it.   Give them a few weeks to work out some kinks and it will be offered again via Windows Update.  If and only if it fails via Windows Update the second time around then you will probably have to use the following technique:

                                    Doing an In-place "Upgrade" to Reinstall Windows 10 Keeping Apps/Programs and User Files
                                    NOTE:  You do NOT need to follow the instruction regarding turning off Secure Boot.  It is superfluous.
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back


Re: Making JAWS announce shortcut sequences

 

On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 11:50 PM, Bill White wrote:
JAWS on the system you are using has been customized in some way
Certainly within the realm of possibility, but if it is, it was not intentional.  I think I'm the only one whose made intentional changes, some of those to speech and the others being the suggestions offered here.

I am definitely going to check out "installation #2" with another client today to see how that one is behaving.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back


Re: JAWS Version 2018.1808.10, Windows 1809 and calculator

 

As a backup one can always download and install the classic calculator.

It's on Winaero.com:  Download Old Calculator for Windows 10 from Windows 7 or Windows 8
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back


Re: Sound after Win 10 1809 update

 

There are people reporting sound issues.  I would reinstall the old drivers, which should be available from Dell and/or the maker of your sound card.

You might also consider Preventing Windows Update from Updating Device Drivers
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back


Re: Sound after Win 10 1809 update

Don H
 

On my HP Envy I also have a Beach audio app for adjusting sound.  I found that after updating my settings in this app were changed.  Changed them back and all is well.  Problem is that the app requires sighted help to make changes.

On 10/4/2018 8:53 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

I have a Dell Inspiron laptop and after updating to version 1809, the sound quality is in the toilet.

It sounds like someone talking through a tin can.

This is one of those built-in sound cards that have almost know adjustability.

 

Anyone else finding this?

 

Richard

 

 

 

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

 



Sound after Win 10 1809 update

Richard Turner
 

I have a Dell Inspiron laptop and after updating to version 1809, the sound quality is in the toilet.

It sounds like someone talking through a tin can.

This is one of those built-in sound cards that have almost know adjustability.

 

Anyone else finding this?

 

Richard

 

 

 

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

 


Re: JAWS Version 2018.1808.10, Windows 1809 and calculator

Steve Matzura
 

Works just fine here. Windows 10 build 17134.286, JAWS 2018.1808.10. Mind you, mine *was* broken, too, but a recent Windows update from build 228 to 286 fixed it.


On 10/4/2018 12:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

It’s broken in 1803 as well

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2018 5:13 PM
To: JFW Mailing List <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: JAWS Version 2018.1808.10, Windows 1809 and calculator

 

I just discovered that the calculator is broken again in JAWS Version 2018.1808.10, running Windows 10, Version 1809 (OS Build 17763.1). I called Vispero and Bill, the tech was able to duplicate the problem.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...




Acrobat Reader

John Doering
 

Hello:

I am using Acrobat Reader to access PDF files for a project at work.

This morning when I opened a file, the tables in the file were no longer available and the find function does not seem to be working.

Opened this same file yesterday afternoon and all was well. 

Tried opening the file several times and also rebooted.  Get the same result.

Has there been an update to Acrobat Reader that I am not aware of or any other suggestions to get Reader to work as before?

 

Thanks,

 

 

John Doering

Administrative Pricing Asst 

 
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Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

Bill White
 

Hi, Joseph. This is concerning your problem with Adobe Acrobat Reader DC, and Windows 10, getting stuck at 89 percent. I recently upgraded my computer from Windows 10, version 1803 to version 1809, (OS Build 17763.1). Since upgrading, I rescanned the Using FreeDos pdf with which you were having trouble, when Adobe Reader was set to “Infer Reading Order From Document”. Now that I have upgraded, the document no longer gets stuck at 89 percent. If you upgrade your system to Windows 10, version 1809 through the System Updates under Settings>Update And Security, It would be safe now for you to scan your pdf with the default settings in Adobe Reader DC. You no longer need to use “Use Reading Order In Raw Print Stream. The document will scan slower, but you might get a better rendering of the document. This is because the default setting, “Infer Reading Order From Document”, observes and processes the document with any tags within the document.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Norton
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 10:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

 

Thanks, I’ll give that a look.

 

The document is pretty straight forward, but, Adobe freezes in the middle of processing—maybe that’s actually JFW freezing.  Maybe Adobe is just fine with it.

 

However, NVDA doesn’t like it either.

 

Just in case anyone wants to look at it, it’s an eBook on using FreeDOS.

 

The file is at:

 

http://www.freedos.org/ebook/download/using-freedos-24.pdf

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 12:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

 

Acrobat is always kind of sluggish.

If it’s not a scanned image document and is straightforward in general (iE, an etext or something), you can use qRead. It’s a nice little programme that very quickly opens pdf and epub files. I like it because it’s very fast. However it doesn’t have many of the features Adobe has. It’s generally meant for books or similar context with straightforward, linear text.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Norton
Sent: September 21, 2018 11:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader

 

Hi listers:

 

Recently, I have been needing to access some PDF’s.  For some reason, whenever I try to use Acrobat Reader DC, the program seems to be very sluggish, sometimes, even unresponsive.  Is this becoming a problem?  If so, is there another solution that will work better with JFW?

 

Thanks!


Re: 1809 and creating restore point

Onwardbob
 

Thanks, but arrowing doesn't work for me

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2018 9:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: 1809 and creating restore point

These are not checkboxes but radio buttons, if you activate the "Configure"
button you have to up arrow if you want to turn it on

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Onwardbob
Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2018 8:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: 1809 and creating restore point

Don't know what I'm doing wrong but I can't create a restore point. Using
J-2018 and W-1809 I can get in to the create restore point but it shows
recovery off and I can't uncheck this. In configure, disable system
protection is also checked and I can't uncheck it either. Can someone give
me step by step instructions? Thank, this one has me feeling dumb...s

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG


Re: 1809 and creating restore point

Onwardbob
 

Hi Mike, running home

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2018 9:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: 1809 and creating restore point

Hi Bob,

I'm not sure if this makes a difference but, are you running the Pro or Home
version of Win10?
Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
From: Onwardbob <mailto:onwardbob@...>
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2018 8:36 PM
Subject: 1809 and creating restore point

Don't know what I'm doing wrong but I can't create a restore point. Using
J-2018 and W-1809 I can get in to the create restore point but it shows
recovery off and I can't uncheck this. In configure, disable system
protection is also checked and I can't uncheck it either. Can someone give
me step by step instructions? Thank, this one has me feeling dumb...s

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG


Re: 1809 and creating restore point

Mike B. <mike9902@...>
 

Hi Again Bob,
 
Those checkboxes you speak of, might be radio buttons, so try to up or down arrow on one of them to see if you get another option.
 
Before I go to bed here's a set of steps to try to see if they help:
From: Carlos
To enable System Restore do the following.
 
1. Press Windows key+R to open the "Run" dialog.
 
2. Type, SystemPropertiesProtection, followed by Enter.
 
3. When the "System Properties" dialog opens, make sure that the
"System Protection" tab is selected.
 
4. Tab until you find the list and select your system drive.
 
5. If it says
"On",
then System Restore is already enabled.  If it says
"Off",
tab to the
"Configure"
button and select it.
 
6. Select the
"Turn on system protection"
radio button.
 
7. Use the
"Max Usage"
slider to select how much drive space you want to be used for restore
points.  I would recommend at least 5 to 10 percent, but if you have a large
drive then you can set it higher if you prefer.
 
8. Select the
"OK"
button twice to close the
"System Protection"
and
"System Properties"
dialogs respectively.
Carlo
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----
From: Onwardbob
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2018 8:36 PM
Subject: 1809 and creating restore point

Don't know what I'm doing wrong but I can't create a restore point. Using
J-2018 and W-1809 I can get in to the create restore point but it shows
recovery off and I can't uncheck this. In configure, disable system
protection is also checked and I can't uncheck it either. Can someone give
me step by step instructions? Thank, this one has me feeling dumb...s

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG







Re: 1809 and creating restore point

 

These are not checkboxes but radio buttons, if you activate the "Configure" button you have to up arrow if you want to turn it on

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Onwardbob
Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2018 8:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: 1809 and creating restore point

Don't know what I'm doing wrong but I can't create a restore point. Using
J-2018 and W-1809 I can get in to the create restore point but it shows recovery off and I can't uncheck this. In configure, disable system protection is also checked and I can't uncheck it either. Can someone give me step by step instructions? Thank, this one has me feeling dumb...s

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG


Re: JAWS Version 2018.1808.10, Windows 1809 and calculator

 

It’s broken in 1803 as well

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2018 5:13 PM
To: JFW Mailing List <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: JAWS Version 2018.1808.10, Windows 1809 and calculator

 

I just discovered that the calculator is broken again in JAWS Version 2018.1808.10, running Windows 10, Version 1809 (OS Build 17763.1). I called Vispero and Bill, the tech was able to duplicate the problem.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 


Re: 1809 and creating restore point

Mike B. <mike9902@...>
 

Hi Bob,
 
I'm not sure if this makes a difference but, are you running the Pro or Home version of Win10?
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----
From: Onwardbob
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2018 8:36 PM
Subject: 1809 and creating restore point

Don't know what I'm doing wrong but I can't create a restore point. Using
J-2018 and W-1809 I can get in to the create restore point but it shows
recovery off and I can't uncheck this. In configure, disable system
protection is also checked and I can't uncheck it either. Can someone give
me step by step instructions? Thank, this one has me feeling dumb...s

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG







Re: Making JAWS announce shortcut sequences

Bill White
 

Hi, Brian. Another thing you can do, if the client is using JAWS 2018, is to use INSERT plus SPACE, followed by Z to put JAWS into Alternate User Directory Mode. This keeps any settings files from taking effect. JAWS runs in default mode at this point. So, if shortcut key sequences are announced in this mode, you will know that it is a setting in JAWS which has been personalized by the user, which is blocking the key sequence announcements when JAWS has been toggled back to the regular mode.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2018 8:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Making JAWS announce shortcut sequences

 

Bill,

           Thanks.   I see another JAWS 2018 user tomorrow and I will be curious to see if her default settings are the same as my other client and will try this.

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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back


Re: fema alert today. you need to know.

 

Nothing wrong with not knowing, if it's a real alert or emergency you don't know about it either and I'm sure the alert message made it clear that this was a test or trial or whatever.
I just hope for all of you south of the 49th that Trump is not going to use this the same way as he uses his Twitter account *smile*

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2018 10:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: fema alert today. you need to know.

sorry, this is for the u s.
i didn't think about people that do not live in the u s.
i would not of known about this if i wasn't checking todays weather report on
the radio.
but yes i did mean to list this here.


-----Original Message-----
From: JM Casey
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2018 9:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: fema alert today. you need to know.

Did you mean to post this to the JAWS list?
I don't know how many uS residents are here, but certainly not everyone on
the list is one of those and this isn't even Windows-related.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: October 3, 2018 12:28 PM
To: jaws <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: fema alert today. you need to know.

sorry, but i thought if i only sent a link you would think this is spam.
i wanted everyone to know about this fema alert all cell phone users are
going to get today at 11:20 california time.

https://techcrunch.com/2018/10/03/fema-is-about-to-send-a-presidential-alert
-to-millions-of-u-s-phones/
FEMA is about to send a 'Presidential Alert' to millions of U.S. phones Zack
Whittaker@zackwhittaker / 2 hours ago fema-hero

In a few hours, millions of Americans will get a test emergency

"Presidential Alert" message sent to their phone - a simulation in case

the president ever needs to reach to entire country in a national

emergency.

At 2:18pm ET, the Federal Emergency Management Agency will send a

short alert, saying: "THIS IS A TEST of the National Wireless Emergency

Alert System. No action is needed." A few minutes later, televisions and

radio broadcasts will briefly suspend and a similar message will run.

The test was originally scheduled for mid-September but was delayed

until Wednesday after Hurricane Florence hit the east coast.

This will be the first time the government has conducted a nationwide

test of the Wireless Emergency Alert (WEA) system, according to a FEMA

advisory.

Emergency warnings used to be confined to television and radio

broadcasts, sounding out that familiar terrifying high-pitch tone. But as

consumers moved away from televisions and radio to mobile devices

that are always with us, the government began working on a system to

get emergency alerts in our hands.

Since it was devised in 2006 under the Bush administration, the Wireless

Emergency Alert (WEA) has slowly rolled out across the U.S. to form a

new state-of-the-art emergency alert system. Like the legacy system, the

WEA is designed to alert Americans to bad weather and missing children

at a local level directly to your phone.

But now FEMA wants to test a third alert - the presidential alert - which

will send a message to every switched-on phone with cell service across

the U.S. at the same time.

This won't be a text message sent to your phone, experts say. Instead of

sending text messages that would flood the networks, the alerts are sent

directly over the cellular network.

Although today is a test, any future presidential alert can be sent solely

at the discretion of the president and can be issued for any reason. And,

unlike other alerts, Americans cannot opt-out of receiving a presidential

alert.

Some have expressed concern that the system could be abused for

political reasons. Others worry that the system could be hacked.

Tom Crane, an expert in emergency management at Everbridge, a critical

communications provider, told TechCrunch that the WEA has "extra

safeguards" in place before sending an alert. An authorized user has to

enter a complex password that has two elements - a private key and a

keystore password - which are unique for each alerting authority.

"It's not as easy as 'someone left their computer unattended so i'm going

to send a Wireless Emergency Alert'," he said.

The emergency alert system is far from perfect. Earlier this year, panic

spread on Hawaii after an erroneous alert warned residents of a "ballistic

missile threat inbound." The message said, "this is not a drill." The false

warning was amid the height of tensions between the US and North9:20 AM

Korea, which at the time was regularly test-firing rockets used for its

nuclear missile program.


Re: Making JAWS announce shortcut sequences

Cristóbal
 

Yup.

 

Cristóbal

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2018 8:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Making JAWS announce shortcut sequences

 

Hi, Brian. I’m using JAWS 2018, latest update, and all my controls are still announced with shortcut sequences. It sounds as if JAWS on the system you are using has been customized in some way, and the personal settings are blocking announcement of these key sequences.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2018 8:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Making JAWS announce shortcut sequences

 

Update:  Sadly, tweaking the access keys settings to all didn't change a thing.

I know darned well that at one time when you traversed the ribbon the "end of shortcut" sequence for the control on which you've landed was announced.  I rely on that as far as a student's ability to keep adding to their own "greatest hits" list as they find controls they use all the time.  It doesn't help to know if, for instance, in Microsoft Word that the font is in the Home Ribbon, Font Group, and that you can get to it "the long way" each time rather than knowing that if you hit ALT+H,FF will instantly take you there.  I need that FF to somehow be announced when you land on that control, and NVDA still does it by default.  I know JAWS can, too.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back


Re: Making JAWS announce shortcut sequences

Bill White
 

Hi, Brian. I’m using JAWS 2018, latest update, and all my controls are still announced with shortcut sequences. It sounds as if JAWS on the system you are using has been customized in some way, and the personal settings are blocking announcement of these key sequences.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2018 8:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Making JAWS announce shortcut sequences

 

Update:  Sadly, tweaking the access keys settings to all didn't change a thing.

I know darned well that at one time when you traversed the ribbon the "end of shortcut" sequence for the control on which you've landed was announced.  I rely on that as far as a student's ability to keep adding to their own "greatest hits" list as they find controls they use all the time.  It doesn't help to know if, for instance, in Microsoft Word that the font is in the Home Ribbon, Font Group, and that you can get to it "the long way" each time rather than knowing that if you hit ALT+H,FF will instantly take you there.  I need that FF to somehow be announced when you land on that control, and NVDA still does it by default.  I know JAWS can, too.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back


Re: Making JAWS announce shortcut sequences

 

Bill,

           Thanks.   I see another JAWS 2018 user tomorrow and I will be curious to see if her default settings are the same as my other client and will try this.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back