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The menu bar in Firefox does not seem to be always visible
Richard B. McDonald
Hi!
Even though I have the View > Toolbars > Menu Bar “checked” in Firefox, it does not seem to be always visible. When I press only the alt key, nothing happens. However, if I press for example alt+f, then the menu bar *is* visible; and I can then navigate it. How can I make the menu bar always visible?
I am using the latest builds of both JAWS 2019 and Firefox, and running under Windows 7.
Thanks, Richard
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Re: Drop Down List in Excel
Combo boxes are, by their very nature, a hybrid between a text box that allows you to type in data and a dropdown box that allows you to select it. As a general rule, typing the first character will get you the first item with that character (if there is more than one), if you then type the second character it will limit the choices to those that share those first two characters.
If you know what the values are in these long lists just start typing, you should soon be limited to one. The best analogy I can give outside excel of the same behavior is the state box in a USPS ZIP Code lookup. If you go to, https://tools.usps.com/zip-code-lookup.htm?bycitystate, Then enter anything in the city, tab over to the state, and pick any state where you know that there are multiples that start with the same letter. In my case, Virginia. If I type V in that field the first thing that pops up is "VT - Vermont," if I hit V again it shows "VI - Virgin Islands," and if I hit V again finally "VA - Virginia." If, though I actually type VA it instantly closes to Virginia. This is the sort of behavior you typically see in a combo box, regardless of the context. If you had a Combo Box where the four choices were the male names, "Alexander, Bradley, Brian, Christopher," typing an A would instantly close on the first and a C on the last. A single B would start with Bradley and if you hit it again, shift to Brian. Since both of the B names start with BR you'd get even the same thing typing the first two characters. But typing B R A would immediately bring up only Bradley. In any case, once you're familiar with the entries you typically use, just typing enough of the characters necessary to close on the correct choice is usually the fastest way to get it if the list is very long. -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong. ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
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Re: accessible project management/collaboration software
Dave...
Paul,
I used MS Project manager several years ago. I was able to enter data for
the various steps and sub steps in the project, but was not able to actually
"see" the flow diagram nor the fishbone diagram. With care and lots of trial and
error I was able to use it, but not very efficiently.
Dave
Oregonite, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
----- Original Message -----
From: paul lemm
To: jfw@groups.io
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2019 11:33
Subject: accessible project management/collaboration
software Hi,
So I’m working on a project with some other people , one of the sighted members of the group has suggested we look into some project management software or online collaboration tool where we can all log what we’re doing/working on so others from the group can see exactly what we are all doing and our progress on that work. So just wondering if anyone from this group has used anything like this and has any suggestions for either an online tool or piece of software that would do this and work well with Jaws?
Regards
Paul
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accessible project management/collaboration software
paul lemm
Hi,
So I’m working on a project with some other people , one of the sighted members of the group has suggested we look into some project management software or online collaboration tool where we can all log what we’re doing/working on so others from the group can see exactly what we are all doing and our progress on that work. So just wondering if anyone from this group has used anything like this and has any suggestions for either an online tool or piece of software that would do this and work well with Jaws?
Regards
Paul
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Re: Drop Down List in Excel
Scott Rumery
Jaws is saying that these are combo boxes.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
It's also important to know the exact Excel Object Type. A true dropdown is different than a text list box is different than a combo box. Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong. ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
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Re: Drop Down List in Excel
Scott Rumery
No it doesn’t. It would seem as though the only way to navigate a drop down list in Excel is either with the up and down arrows or by going to the beginning or end of the list with the home or end keys on the keyboard. You can also use the page up or page down keys, but you cannot quickly jump to an item in the list. I have even tried using the Jaws Find command but it doesn’t work in a drop list.
Scott
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2019 10:29 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Drop Down List in Excel
Does first-letter navigation work, once the box is opened?
Dave
----- Original Message ----- From: Scott Rumery To: jfw@groups.io Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2019 08:15 Subject: Drop Down List in Excel
Hello,
Is there a way for me to quickly jump to an item in a drop down list in Excel? I am having to work with a spreadsheet that has several drop downs that are very long and if I could quickly jump to a particular part of the list then it would make my job a little easier.
Thank You,
Scott Rumery
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Re: Drop Down List in Excel
Jay <jcoffin@...>
Hi.
I’ve forwarded this message to Vispero Technical support. I’ll reply back to the list when I have an answer.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
It's also important to know the exact Excel Object Type. A true dropdown is different than a text list box is different than a combo box. Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong. ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
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Re: Drop Down List in Excel
It's also important to know the exact Excel Object Type. A true dropdown is different than a text list box is different than a combo box.
The combo box is the easiest to deal with, in my opinion. I know you have no control over how the spreadsheets have been created, but there are slight differences depending on which of the above is actually being used. -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong. ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
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Re: Drop Down List in Excel
Dave...
Does first-letter navigation work, once the box is opened?
Dave
Oregonite, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott
Rumery
To: jfw@groups.io
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2019 08:15
Subject: Drop Down List in Excel Hello,
Is there a way for me to quickly jump to an item in a drop down list in Excel? I am having to work with a spreadsheet that has several drop downs that are very long and if I could quickly jump to a particular part of the list then it would make my job a little easier.
Thank You,
Scott Rumery
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Drop Down List in Excel
Scott Rumery
Hello,
Is there a way for me to quickly jump to an item in a drop down list in Excel? I am having to work with a spreadsheet that has several drop downs that are very long and if I could quickly jump to a particular part of the list then it would make my job a little easier.
Thank You,
Scott Rumery
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Re: Using Waterfox
netbat66
thats because you have to reload waterfox the first time so it can detect your screen reader.
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another thing, if you switch screen readers while waterfox is running there function keys will not work until you reload waterfox if you are going to switch screen readers you have to do it before waterfox is loaded. then it will work.
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From: Patrick Kwanashie Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2019 9:27 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Using Waterfox Actually, it's now working fine. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Kwanashie Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2019 11:52 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Using Waterfox The latest version of Waterfox is not accessible to JAWS. What is the latest accessible version and where can I download it? -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 3:34 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Using Waterfox I don't have a JAWS-related solution for you, but if you press escape when using the ctrl-f find function, you will find your cursor in the right position and the find dialog box will close. As was already said, pressing f3 should get you to the next occurrence of the search. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber Sent: February 14, 2019 2:07 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Using Waterfox Hello there: Due to an injury to the little finger on my right hand, I find pressing keystrokes such as INSERT+CTRL a problem. Not only that, when you press CTRL+F and type a search term on a page, I find that when you press CTRL+ENTER, to activate the search function, it does not appear to take you to the result, if it finds it! Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "JM Casey" <jmcasey@teksavvy.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 6:21 PM Subject: Re: Using Waterfox Yeah, ctrl-f activates the browser's find function and not JAWS's, I
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Re: Using Waterfox
Patrick Kwanashie
Actually, it's now working fine.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Kwanashie Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2019 11:52 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Using Waterfox The latest version of Waterfox is not accessible to JAWS. What is the latest accessible version and where can I download it? -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 3:34 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Using Waterfox I don't have a JAWS-related solution for you, but if you press escape when using the ctrl-f find function, you will find your cursor in the right position and the find dialog box will close. As was already said, pressing f3 should get you to the next occurrence of the search. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber Sent: February 14, 2019 2:07 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Using Waterfox Hello there: Due to an injury to the little finger on my right hand, I find pressing keystrokes such as INSERT+CTRL a problem. Not only that, when you press CTRL+F and type a search term on a page, I find that when you press CTRL+ENTER, to activate the search function, it does not appear to take you to the result, if it finds it! Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "JM Casey" <jmcasey@teksavvy.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 6:21 PM Subject: Re: Using Waterfox Yeah, ctrl-f activates the browser's find function and not JAWS's, I
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Re: Using Waterfox
Patrick Kwanashie
The latest version of Waterfox is not accessible to JAWS. What is the
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latest accessible version and where can I download it?
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 3:34 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Using Waterfox I don't have a JAWS-related solution for you, but if you press escape when using the ctrl-f find function, you will find your cursor in the right position and the find dialog box will close. As was already said, pressing f3 should get you to the next occurrence of the search. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber Sent: February 14, 2019 2:07 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Using Waterfox Hello there: Due to an injury to the little finger on my right hand, I find pressing keystrokes such as INSERT+CTRL a problem. Not only that, when you press CTRL+F and type a search term on a page, I find that when you press CTRL+ENTER, to activate the search function, it does not appear to take you to the result, if it finds it! Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "JM Casey" <jmcasey@teksavvy.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 6:21 PM Subject: Re: Using Waterfox Yeah, ctrl-f activates the browser's find function and not JAWS's, I
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Re: Jaws 2019 and photo copy
Tom <tomcat509@...>
Thanks for your input Sieghard
Cheers Tom
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, 16 February 2019 1:03 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws 2019 and photo copy
No, Jaws can OCR PDF and other image files, but there is no photocopy feature and hopefully there never will be since you need a scanner to scan something and then print it again and all scanners whether stand-alone scanners or all-in-one devices come with software that can do this.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom
Hi,
Using latest W10 64 bit Home and latest Jaws 2019 Home
Does the latest Jaws have a builtin photo copier facility?
If so, how can it be accessed?
Thanks
Tom
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Re: Jaws on different devices
Tom <tomcat509@...>
Thanks for the info Bill. Cheers Tom
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Saturday, 16 February 2019 12:15 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws on different devices
It’s possible and legal to have your authorization of JAWS installed on up to three computers at once. The sticking point is that they tell you that you are not supposed to be using more than one device at the same time, even though you may have keys for three devices.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom
Hi,
Using latest Jaws 2019 Home 64 bit
Is it possible and legal to have the above Jaws version installed on a desktop and laptop at the same time? Or is it just one installation per licence?
Thanks Tom
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Re: What happened to Doug Geoffray,
Ron Pelletier
Hi,
Doug wrote a lot more than just Word Talk. He had a series. He had one called Term Talk, a terminal software and also File Talk which was a great database software. I used it for several things on my Apple IIE.
From what I hear, Doug did not stay with VFO. He is with Microsoft as programming manager in the accessibility department working on Microsoft Narrator. With him there, I expect the Narrator will be the equivalent built-in accessibility to Voice-Over for Microsoft. I am hopeful.
Ron & Danvers
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jason White via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 6:58 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: What happened to Doug Geoffray,
Does anyone else remember that he wrote WordTalk (Computer Aids Corporation, mid 1980s, word processor for Apple II systems)?
From: <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
Doug is a program manager with the Narrator team at Microsoft and will be at CSUN. Here is a link to the Microsoft Accessibility blog:
Richard The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have any." -- Alice Walker
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Re: using capslock with the desktop layout.
And for the sake of complete clarity, regardless of keyboard layout, my understanding is that the keyboard shortcuts for both layouts are available in either.
The trick being that what those shortcuts are often differs by more than just using a different modifier key (CAPS LOCK versus INSERT), and you have to use the full command with the syntax for the "shortcut style" chosen. What I'm trying to say above is if some command in Desktop layout were to be INS+Y, and in Laptop layout were to be CAPS LOCK+CTRL+L then you can't just substitute CAPS LOCK in place of INS or vice versa for either shortcut. If it is only the modifier key that differs, then you can. I'm sure someone can confirm/refute the above. -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong. ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
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Re: Using Google Chrome
Flor Lynch
JAWS Keyboard Help – JAWSKey+1 - and your keystroke pressed, or
pressed twice quickly gives you more information – explains what the
keystroke
does.
From: Kevin Meyers
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2019 2:01 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Using Google Chrome I’m using windows10 and Jaws2018 or jaws 2019. I’m on a web site and it says to press jaws key plus alt plus r to get descriptive text. I do and nothing is read. It doesn’t matter what web site I do this on nothing is read. The site tells me to do those key strokes. Is there something else I need to do? Or is the HTML code not setup for a alt label to state something about a link? Thanks, Kevin
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Re: using capslock with the desktop layout.
Jerry Berrier <jerry.berrier@...>
I always use Laptop layout, and as far as I can tell, both caps lock and the insert key work equally well.
Jerry Berrier Director of Education Technology Perkins School for the Blind
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 12:29 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: using capslock with the desktop layout.
I started using JAWS in version 2018.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 11:32 AM, Van Lant, Robin wrote:
With what JAWS version? Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong. ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
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Re: Jaws on different devices
WESLEY BURDEN
Yes you can install it on your desktop and your laptop at the same time ever since I purchased jaws I have done that you get three user keys when you purchase jaws to install it on three devices so yes you can
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On Feb 15, 2019, at 9:14 PM, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:
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