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Re: ABSunset has stopped working

kevin meyers
 

I used MRT and it came back saying there were no threats found. I turned off my laptop and turned it back on. The ABSunset virus still exists. Now what?

 

Kevin Meyers

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 1:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: ABSunset has stopped working

 

 

Have you tried removing this virus using the Microsoft Malicious Software Removal Tool (MRT)?  To run MRT, type “MRT” into the Run dialog (Windows key-R).

 

Gerald

 

 

 

Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2018 2:44 PM

Subject: Re: ABSunset has stopped working

 

I looked on the internet to see how to remove it. Windows defender couldn’t do anything with it. The information on the web says to download SpyHunter. Does anyone know of SpyHunter? Should windows defender be able to handle this virus?

 

 

 

Kevin Meyers

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 12:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: ABSunset has stopped working

 

According to google its a virus

 

 

From: kevin meyers
Sent: 01 August 2018 18:47
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: ABSunset has stopped working

 

 

Hello, I got the message stating ABSunset has stopped working. Does anyone know what this app does?

 

Cheers,

 

 

Kevin Meyers

 

 

Re: Jaws and Chrome

Jerry Berrier <jerry.berrier@...>
 

Since the last update of what?  Jaws? Chrome?

 

Jerry Berrier

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Sweeney
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2018 12:58 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws and Chrome

 

Hi All,

Since the last update, Chrome stopped working.  All I get is ‘blank.’  What do I have to do to fix this?

Thx -Steve

 

Re: ABSunset has stopped working

Gerald Levy
 

 
Have you tried removing this virus using the Microsoft Malicious Software Removal Tool (MRT)?  To run MRT, type “MRT” into the Run dialog (Windows key-R).
 
Gerald
 
 
 

Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2018 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: ABSunset has stopped working
 

I looked on the internet to see how to remove it. Windows defender couldn’t do anything with it. The information on the web says to download SpyHunter. Does anyone know of SpyHunter? Should windows defender be able to handle this virus?

 

 

 

Kevin Meyers

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 12:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: ABSunset has stopped working

 

According to google its a virus

 

 

From: kevin meyers
Sent: 01 August 2018 18:47
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: ABSunset has stopped working

 

 

Hello, I got the message stating ABSunset has stopped working. Does anyone know what this app does?

 

Cheers,

 

 

Kevin Meyers

 

 

Re: all Skypes work together??

inamuddin khan
 

Yes but until September first!

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From: john clayton
Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 2:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: all Skypes work together??

 

they probably should,yes.

 

On 1 August 2018 at 15:07, Morey Worthington <worthington@...> wrote:

Hi All.

If I am still using Skuype 7.4, and one of you is using Skype UAP, and one of you is using Skype 8.2 will they still be friendly with each other? Meaning, can we still connect with each other using the different versions??

Just a thought

Morey






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Re: jfw 2018 and functions keys

 

Jed,

           The exact model number would help.   My guess is that your machine, like most laptops these days, defines the function key row as "smart keys" or similar that makes them do things like increase/decrease screen brightness, volume, or mute, etc.  Typically in this case if you hold the Fn key while hitting the corresponding function key it should behave like it used to in the past.  Trying Fn+actual function key for the JAWS commands, and seeing if that works, is an easy way to confirm whether or not "smart keys" is active.

           This feature can be turned off.  Some brands require this to be done in UEFI/BIOS before Windows boots while others have built-in utilities to do it.  I think that Dell is one of the latter.

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    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill

Re: ABSunset has stopped working

kevin meyers
 

I looked on the internet to see how to remove it. Windows defender couldn’t do anything with it. The information on the web says to download SpyHunter. Does anyone know of SpyHunter? Should windows defender be able to handle this virus?

 

 

 

Kevin Meyers

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 12:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: ABSunset has stopped working

 

According to google its a virus

 

 

From: kevin meyers
Sent: 01 August 2018 18:47
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: ABSunset has stopped working

 

 

Hello, I got the message stating ABSunset has stopped working. Does anyone know what this app does?

 

Cheers,

 

 

Kevin Meyers

 

 

Re: jfw 2018 and functions keys

Michael Mote
 

Hi there! Your function keys are probably set to media keys by default. Depending on the type of Dell you have, there are ways to turn the function keys back on. What type of Dell do you have?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2018 2:37 PM
To: main <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: jfw 2018 and functions keys

Hey guys,

OK, i have this new del laptop. So i have never used the keyboard on the laptop until now. so i am runninginto kind of a major problem.
My function keys seem to be doing different things. For instance f1 seems to mute speech. When i hit f1, it mutes speech, and they aren't behaving normally. Any idea what could be wrong? This is a del laptop.

Thanks,
Jed

Re: Amazon.com "Cart" page

 

Hope,

           Thanks for confirming that the navigation by graphic in the cart is an effective trick.  It's always good to hear that it works for at least two people, though I certainly didn't doubt the person who posted it, either.  I can understand entirely wanting to thoroughly review a cart before checkout.

           As to links in e-mails, like all other things, I am far from doctrinaire with regard to that.  If you know the source of the message, they're a person or entity you trust, and there's noting in the message otherwise that sets off your alarm bells then click/activate away.  That's why the facility is there:  convenience.  One need only be reasonably cautious, not paranoid.  In fact, I see an excess of caution through outright paranoia cause far more problems in life than being reasonably cautious to even just the slightest bit cavalier ever does.
--

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    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill

jfw 2018 and functions keys

Jed Barton <jedbarton@...>
 

Hey guys,

OK, i have this new del laptop. So i have never used the keyboard on
the laptop until now. so i am runninginto kind of a major problem.
My function keys seem to be doing different things. For instance f1
seems to mute speech. When i hit f1, it mutes speech, and they aren't
behaving normally. Any idea what could be wrong? This is a del
laptop.

Thanks,
Jed

Re: Subscription

cecropia64
 

got you here cat.


On 7/31/2018 4:19 PM, Kat Taylor wrote:
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Jaws and Chrome

Steve Sweeney
 

Hi All,

Since the last update, Chrome stopped working.  All I get is ‘blank.’  What do I have to do to fix this?

Thx -Steve

 

Re: ABSunset has stopped working

Chris
 

According to google its a virus

 

 

From: kevin meyers
Sent: 01 August 2018 18:47
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: ABSunset has stopped working

 

 

Hello, I got the message stating ABSunset has stopped working. Does anyone know what this app does?

 

Cheers,

 

 

Kevin Meyers

 

 

ABSunset has stopped working

kevin meyers
 

 

Hello, I got the message stating ABSunset has stopped working. Does anyone know what this app does?

 

Cheers,

 

Kevin Meyers

 

Re: Subscription

Mario
 

hey Kat. welcome.
away.

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From: Kat Taylor [mailto:katttaylor59@...]
Sent: Tuesday, Jul 31, 2018 4:19 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Subscription

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Re: shut down sound for windows 10

Don H
 

We will never have the same access to computers that the sighted have. That will never change. Is it fair, no.

Re: shut down sound for windows 10

Robert Wright <wrightsiphone@...>
 

I have gotten use to n longer hearing the shutdown sound. Its only purpose was to let us know that Windows had closed. It had noting to do with whether or not the pc itself had finished shutting down.

 

On the otherhand I wish the alt+I command to go to look in in notepad or word was still available. Oh well!

 

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From: Maria Campbell
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 4:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10

 

Um, can't see light.  Don't hear fan on laptop.

 

Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...
 
"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis
 

On 7/31/2018 6:28 PM, Ashleigh Piccinino wrote:

 Normally, you should be able to hear the motor in your computer stop as it shuts down. Can you do this? If not, you should be able to see the light on your monitor go out. 

 

 

 

Re: shut down sound for windows 10

Jaffar Sidek
 

And you are still using Microsoft Windows for all your complaints, right?

On 31/7/2018 11:18 PM, Gerald Levy wrote:

MS doesn't give a rat's ass what the public thinks.  If it did, it would have replaced the much-despised ribbon menu structure with the more convenient and less cumbersome classic menu structure that most of its customers, sighted and blind alike,  prefer. On the contrary, MS seems to go out of its way to frustrate and tick off its customers just to prove that they can do anything they damn well please and get away with it.

Gerald



-----Original Message----- From: Aleeha Dudley
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 10:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10

Hi all,
I am a very infrequent poster on this list, but I needed to contribute on this one.
The lack of a shutdown sound does NOT indicate a lack of accessibility You could always use a light detector app to determine if the screen is off, or place your ear close to the computer to hear the different sounds stop. Systems change. That’s a fact. The Mac, for example, does not make the startup sound on the new machines. It’s sad, but it’s true. In an age where people want faster operating systems and less noise from machines, Microsoft has to go with what the public wants, not a niche market. If you really think that Microsoft or any other company is stepping back in terms of accessibility, I’d strongly encourage you to do a bit of research into current accessibility developments first.
Aleeha
On Jul 31, 2018, at 9:42 AM, David Ingram <dingram269@...> wrote:

hi list members, what version of jaws are being used currently? If the answers is jaws 2018 or jaws 17 then you should hear all system sounds. I'currently using jaws version 16.  This means that if you're using jaws 17 or 2018 with windows 10 version 1803 you should hear all system soundsI'm going to check to see whether windows 10 version 1803 does the same with firefox?


-----Original Message-----
From: cecropia64 <cecropia64@...>
Sent: Jul 31, 2018 9:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10

Maybe.  But that's what these lists are for.  To ask questions and get
answers if there are any to be had.


On 7/31/2018 10:17 AM, Alan Robbins via Groups.Io wrote:
I wish I had a dollar for every time this thread starts up on this list as well as other lists. It seems to me there must be a reason Microsoft stopped having a shut down sound. Has anyone ever taken the time to research this or ask Microsoft? It would seem to me to be energy better spend than repeatedly asking this question on email lists.

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 9:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10

I disagree with that statement about Microsoft not caring about accessibility. If this were so then why the major and continueing improvements of Narrator and if this statement was true then Apple also does not care about accessibility (which of course is not true) because the iPhone makes neither a startup sound nor a shutdown sound.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 3:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10


Taking away the shutdown sound in Windows 10 proves once again that MS really does not careabout accessibility, contrary to what some list members believe to the contrary. What possible advantage is there to having no audible means of confirming that your computer has completely shut down? On some laptops, the cooling fan is so weak that it is difficult to impossible to tell whether it is running just by feeling or placing your ear next to the case, so this may not be a reliable substitute for the shutdown sound.
Maybe someone who is smarter than me can explain how eliminating the shutdown sound is an "improvement".

Gerald



Gerald



-----Original Message-----
From: Mario
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 8:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10

in the meantime, it would be appreciated, I think by most blind and/or sighted users, to send feedback to Microsoft pleeding that the familiar Windows 7 shutdown sound be reenabled and that any wav file can be assigned as it was possible with earlier versions of Windows, i.e. via the sounds applett of the control panel.
there might be a chance MS would consider it if there were compelling reasons such as for blind users who choose to completely shutdown their system and are using a laptop (or desktop) that does not have any means of testing to see if the system is truely shutdown. the more the reasons that are reasonable, the better the chance MS might do it. no?




-------- Original Message --------
From: cecropia64 [mailto:cecropia64@...]
Sent: Monday, Jul 30, 2018 7:35 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: shut down sound for windows 10

yup, me too.  I'm gonna use Windows 7 until Microsoft says "no more".
But by then I hope to have learned enough about Windows 10 to at least use it without too much of an issue.  We shall see about that.


On 7/30/2018 6:24 PM, Gerald Levy wrote:

So how can you tell for sure that your computer has shut down completely if there is no sound like in Windows 7 and earlier? This is yet another reason why I'm in no hurry to upgrade to Windows 10.

Gerald



-----Original Message----- From: Pastor Gil Pries
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 5:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10

With Windows 10, there is no way to assign a shutdown sound.

Pastor Gil

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Teresa
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 1:56 PM
To: JFW <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: shut down sound for windows 10

good afternoon list: how do I assign a sound when windows 10 shuts down?
Thanks to all in advance.














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Re: Amazon.com "Cart" page

Hope Williamson <isepic@...>
 

Hi Brian, yeah it can be long if there are more than a few items. However, I'd rather go through everything before checkout and make sure I have all the right stuff in there etc. That's just me being extra thorough though, and paying attention, so I don't have to return something because I got 2 instead of just one or whatever. The navigating by graphics trick does seem to work, I just tested it.
    I don't use Edge for anything either, and I only tend to use IE if I'm listening to a long stream, (I have several of those I like to listen to.) Chrome is my default right now simply because it opens links in Thunderbird without asking me to refresh it every single time like Firefox does for some strange reason. Lol yeah I know that whole thing about clicking links in email, but there are just some you have to click.

Re: shut down sound for windows 10

Jaffar Sidek
 

Free Will?  You have it.  You are free to use Linux or Mac or Dos or Android or some other OS.  You are not obliged to pay for and use Windows if you don't like it  You could pay more for a Mac, use some other free OS, and see how you get along.  No one is ever forced to use one OS or the other, now isn't that free will?


On 31/7/2018 9:56 PM, Jonas Voll wrote:

I do not like other people making Decisions for myself!

Free will, is what I want!

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 8:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10

 

On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 09:16 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

I disagree with that statement about Microsoft not caring about accessibility.

As does anyone who pays the slightest bit of attention.   The creation of Narrator, and the degree of ongoing development of same, marked a tectonic shift in Microsoft's attitude toward accessibility.

Although I loved the shutdown sound, and see why it can be useful, even on a laptop there are easy ways to tell if a computer is shut down or not.  Just place your hand near the fan exit vent and you will feel the stream of air, which is usually significantly warmer than any room temperature, cease flowing upon complete shutdown, as the fans are the last thing to shut down.

The shutdown sound is a triviality in the world of accessibility.  Pick your battles.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill

 
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