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Re: Internet Explorer support life cycle from Microsoft
Michal Nowicki
Edge is now accessible with screen readers.
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On Mar 25, 2019, at 8:17 AM, Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:
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Re: Another Outlook E-mail Group Question
Tom,
Just as an idea, you might want to consider maintaining your lists external to Outlook itself. You can export and import contact lists to Excel CSV format, and it might be easier to make changes to the Excel file, delete the existing list in Outlook, and import the revisions. I have not tried this end-to-end but it should be simple enough to do a test case to see if it's viable. I did export just a Contact Group this afternoon, and the initial text file could be edited, too, but since the fields are tab separated there's a much higher risk for screwing things up, so doing the conversion to Excel makes things a bit more foolproof.
See: https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Export-contacts-from-Outlook-10f09abd-643c-4495-bb80-543714eca73f
Contact Groups are, in actuality, a view of existing contacts, not a separate copy of those contacts. I'm not quite sure how one can relocate them, at least not without additional details.
-- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong. ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
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Another Outlook E-mail Group Question
Tom Behler
Hello, everyone.
In light of the problems I am having with regard to effectively navigating and editing an e-mail group, I got some assistance, and have now created the group I need.
However, in creating the group, the group accidentally got saved to the wrong Outlook contacts folder.
Does anyone know how to move an e-mail group from one contacts folder to another?
I have tried the standard copy and paste method, but have been unsuccessful thus far.
Any help would be appreciated.
On a related note, I’m going to call Freedom Scientific and possibly the Microsoft Accessibility Hotline about the ongoing problem with navigating e-mail group lists with Jaws, and will let the list know if I find out anything of major importance.
Once again, for the record, I’m using Windows 10, Outlook 2016, and the latest build of Jaws 2019 here.
Thanks, all!
Tom Behler
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Re: Navigating Entries In An E-mail Group List
Tom Behler
I hear you, Brian.
I’ll try to give them a call tomorrow.
If I find out anything definitive, I’ll post to the list.
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 11:44 AM, Tom Behler wrote:
It never hurts to cage rattle, though. Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong. ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
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Re: remote access
Remote Desktop allows you to connect to your computer provided you know your home computer’s IP address. You probably also have to set up port forwarding in your router to allow the connection and of course you have to make sure Remote Desktop is enabled for the computer you want to connect to. If you don’t have a fixed IP address which for a home connection is likely you would have to set up something called a “dynamic DNS” which allows you to set up an easy to remember name and if your IP address changes the service will automatically update this so that the name you set up still works, below is a website with more information:
https://dyn.com/dns/dyndns-pro-free-trial/
Lastly, if you use Jaws you may have to contact Vispero, I think Remote Desktop may not be something which works with a basic Jaws license, if I go to Jaws > About it says the following in addition to the version information etc.:
Upgrades Remaining: 2 Remote Access: Enabled Tandem Direct: Disabled
Regards, Sieghard
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Juan Hernandez
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2019 8:53 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: remote access
HI All,
I work from home a bit. I wanted to know if I am at work on my work computer is there a way I can access my home computer? What would be a good accessible solution?
Best,
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Re: Navigating Entries In An E-mail Group List
On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 11:44 AM, Tom Behler wrote:
So, I suspect that calling FS won’t do much good, other than to reinforce the existence of the problem?It never hurts to cage rattle, though. As I've often said, with issues like this "the fault" generally lies with the screen reader or the software it's being used with, but seldom both. From what I've been able to dig up my gut is telling me it's "an Outlook side" issue, and so FS really can't fix it. Still, MS has shown significantly more interest in accessibility issues in general over the last few years, and the screen reader developers have direct contact with Microsoft's developers. Sometimes trying to raise the visibility of an "old problem" can make it new-ish again. It certainly won't hurt. -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong. ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
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remote access
Juan Hernandez
HI All,
I work from home a bit. I wanted to know if I am at work on my work computer is there a way I can access my home computer? What would be a good accessible solution?
Best,
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Re: Navigating Entries In An E-mail Group List
Tom Behler
So, I suspect that calling FS won’t do much good, other than to reinforce the existence of the problem?
Very disappointing!
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
As a quick follow-up, this appears to be an issue of very longstanding. There has been an issue open for NVDA (which describes exactly the same issue that's reported here, and actually includes a note that it happens under JAWS, too), that was opened all the way back in 2012. Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong. ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
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Re: Navigating Entries In An E-mail Group List
As a quick follow-up, this appears to be an issue of very longstanding. There has been an issue open for NVDA (which describes exactly the same issue that's reported here, and actually includes a note that it happens under JAWS, too), that was opened all the way back in 2012.
This has been haunting screen readers through multiple Outlook versions going as far back as Outlook 2007. -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong. ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
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Re: changing a file extension
I assume these instructions should work except for the part where they talk about playing the new ringtone and that this would move it to the tones folder or something like that and that you then have to simply sync your iPhone in order to transfer it. In the current version of iTunes you would have to copy the song to the clipboard (I am talking about Windows), then connect your iPhone to the computer and in iTunes open the iPhone section. Now in the treeview go to Tones, then tab into the Tones list and simply paste the song here with Control+V, it will instantly and automatically sync to your phone.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2019 6:20 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: changing a file extension
See if this still works: https://www.idownloadblog.com/2013/05/16/how-to-create-ringtones-in-itunes/ Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong. ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
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Re: changing a file extension
Jessica D
Hi,
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Thanks so much! The steps outlined in that article worked. Thanks, Jessica
On Mar 27, 2019, at 9:20 AM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
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Re: Navigating Entries In An E-mail Group List
I wonder if there is a bug in Outlook 2016, or possibly JAWS (and NVDA, too).
When I open a Contact Group, whether with a screen reader on or not, I can easily navigate through each and every member with the up and down arrow buttons. The difference being that the screen reader is not tracking that movement up and down through the list at all corresponding to where Outlook itself has focus at that moment, which is odd. I cannot imagine this behavior is intentional, and since it's occurring in NVDA, and it sounds like the same thing is happening in JAWS, I wonder if Outlook 2016 is somehow not exposing the fact that you've changed focus from one row/member to another in the list of members of a Contact Group. -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong. ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
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Re: changing a file extension
See if this still works: https://www.idownloadblog.com/2013/05/16/how-to-create-ringtones-in-itunes/
-- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong. ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
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Re: changing a file extension
Richard Turner
If it is any other format, you will have to use conversion software.
Do a web search for whatever format it is to m4a.
I do not know if you can still change things within iTunes.
Richard
The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have any." -- Alice Walker
On Mar 27, 2019, at 5:53 AM, Jessica D <jldail13@...> wrote:
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changing a file extension
Jessica D
Hi,
I'm trying to create a ringtone from one of my songs, and realized its in the wrong format. How can I convert it, using my computer with jaws2019, and the latest version of itunes? Thanks, Jessica
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Re: Navigating Entries In An E-mail Group List
Tom Behler
Thanks, Dan.
The list I’m working with has about 50 members, and I can’t navigate through the entire thing via the Jaws cursor.
It used to be so easy when I could use the PC cursor and the arrow keys.
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2019 4:24 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Navigating Entries In An E-mail Group List
Tom, I use JAWS cursor and then arrow key to get through list. Once on a name I hit enter if I want to edit that name. Arrow keys take me through list although I am not certain if the length of list matters.
Dan
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Dan:
If I use the Jaws cursor, I can only get part of the list.
Is there a way to use the Jaws cursor and be able to navigate the entire group list?
Thanks!
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Hi, I am using Win 10 and Outlook 2016 and , thus far, the only way I have found to scrool the list is with JAWS cursor. Using that cursor I can then edit or delete from list. I can add using PC cursor.
Dan
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
I’m re-sending, since I haven’t gotten a response thus far.
If it helps, I am using Windows 10 with the latest build of Jaws 2019.
See below for more details.
Tom Behler
From: Tom Behler <tombehler@...>
Hello.
Does anyone have some good techniques for navigating entries in an already-created e-mail group list?
I used to be able to arrow down through the list with no problem, but that has changed with Outlook 2016 and the last few Jaws updates.
I can still use my Jaws cursor, but navigation is a bit awkward, and I can’t cover the entire list that way.
Thanks for any suggestions.
Tom Behler
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Re: Using jaws on mark book pro
Palmer Loux
The primary issues is with the Mac laptop keyboard which does not have bumped numlockand insert keys like you are used to in a Windows laptop
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Yes a MacBook Pro can be bootcamped with a Windows OS but you will not be happy with the Mac keyboard layout if you are used to JAWS proficiency in Windows laptop Yes you can designate Caps Lock as the JAWS key in Options basics but you will give up some nice keys and windows commands..
On Mar 9, 2019, at 4:00 PM, Adekoya Rasak <rasakadekoya@gmail.com> wrote: --
Palmer from CBVI
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Re: Navigating Entries In An E-mail Group List
Dan Longmore
Tom, I use JAWS cursor and then arrow key to get through list. Once on a name I hit enter if I want to edit that name. Arrow keys take me through list although I am not certain if the length of list matters.
Dan
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2019 4:10 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Navigating Entries In An E-mail Group List
Dan:
If I use the Jaws cursor, I can only get part of the list.
Is there a way to use the Jaws cursor and be able to navigate the entire group list?
Thanks!
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Hi, I am using Win 10 and Outlook 2016 and , thus far, the only way I have found to scrool the list is with JAWS cursor. Using that cursor I can then edit or delete from list. I can add using PC cursor.
Dan
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
I’m re-sending, since I haven’t gotten a response thus far.
If it helps, I am using Windows 10 with the latest build of Jaws 2019.
See below for more details.
Tom Behler
From: Tom Behler <tombehler@...>
Hello.
Does anyone have some good techniques for navigating entries in an already-created e-mail group list?
I used to be able to arrow down through the list with no problem, but that has changed with Outlook 2016 and the last few Jaws updates.
I can still use my Jaws cursor, but navigation is a bit awkward, and I can’t cover the entire list that way.
Thanks for any suggestions.
Tom Behler
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Re: Navigating Entries In An E-mail Group List
Tom Behler
Dan:
If I use the Jaws cursor, I can only get part of the list.
Is there a way to use the Jaws cursor and be able to navigate the entire group list?
Thanks!
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2019 4:08 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Navigating Entries In An E-mail Group List
Hi, I am using Win 10 and Outlook 2016 and , thus far, the only way I have found to scrool the list is with JAWS cursor. Using that cursor I can then edit or delete from list. I can add using PC cursor.
Dan
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
I’m re-sending, since I haven’t gotten a response thus far.
If it helps, I am using Windows 10 with the latest build of Jaws 2019.
See below for more details.
Tom Behler
From: Tom Behler <tombehler@...>
Hello.
Does anyone have some good techniques for navigating entries in an already-created e-mail group list?
I used to be able to arrow down through the list with no problem, but that has changed with Outlook 2016 and the last few Jaws updates.
I can still use my Jaws cursor, but navigation is a bit awkward, and I can’t cover the entire list that way.
Thanks for any suggestions.
Tom Behler
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Re: FW: Navigating Entries In An E-mail Group List
Tom Behler
Brian:
Right now, when I arrow up or down through an e-mail group list, nothing happens; in other words, none of the information for any of the group members is spoken.
I have made sure my screen is maximized.
I can get information for some of the group members by using my Jaws cursor, but I can only view part of the list that way.
I’d like to be able to arrow up and down through the group member list like I used to do with earlier versions of Windows, Jaws, and Outlook.
I have Outlook set up in the usual way with the folder pane set to normal, and the reading pane set to off.
I access my contacts via the control shift B. command.
I hope this helps.
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Tom, Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong. ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
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