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Jaws loading

Don H
 

One of the benefits of Jaws 2019 was supposed to be faster startup. I don't see any real difference but do see after Jaws loading speech is choppy for a short while before working well. Anyone else seeing this?


Re: latest itunes gives me trouble

Dave...
 

Try using another internet radio program.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 21:08
Subject: Re: latest itunes gives me trouble


i sent copies of my original message to deaf-blind tech and apple
accessibility but got no answers from them. i find jaws even less
friendly with the latest itunes (without blindtunes) than nvda. from
what you said earlier i'll have to give up the free radio tree view that
blindtunes gave me access to with earlier itunes versions. thanks for
understanding.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/12/2018 10:59 PM, Dave... wrote:
Doug,

I should point out that we are straying far astream from anything JAWS
related, so in danger of being castigated by the list owners.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 20:50
Subject: Re: latest itunes gives me trouble


that command exits nvda, my primary screenreader; try with jaws? in
jaws it reads the current loaded script and filename. it read something
about itunes 12 settings loaded, then about playing a certain tune in
apple music.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/12/2018 10:41 PM, Dave... wrote:
Sounds like it's uninstalled. Press Insert+Q when you're in iTunes to be
sure.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 20:31
Subject: Re: latest itunes gives me trouble


please outline the steps to find and unload blindtunes, don't know if
it's in desktop, my computer, downloads, or what? i just found it in
the start menu and managed to uninstall; hope itunes works now? nope,
still no luck.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/12/2018 10:19 PM, Dave... wrote:
As to hot keys, those would be part of BlindTunes, which I suggest you
unload, since they have not kept up with later iTunes releases.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 20:03
Subject: Re: latest itunes gives me trouble


hotkeys don't seem to work in itunes now, have to press tab and arrows
repeatedly to find what i want.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/12/2018 9:41 PM, Dave... wrote:
Doug,

I've kept the latest BlindTunes operating, but lately I'm starting to
use
iTunes without it. Seems like iTunes is becoming more Windows-friendly,
and
JAWS is catching up.

If you update to the most recent iTunes, I think there is no way to
revert
back to a version you liked better.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>; "Apple Accessibility"
<accessibility@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 16:53
Subject: Re: latest itunes gives me trouble


does that mean i can no longer use itunes to surf the radio like i did
up to now? while i kept the working version there was no way to
restore
my iphone; any use for itunes now?

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/12/2018 6:43 PM, Dave... wrote:
Doug,

BlindTunes is no longer supported -- John Martyn gave it up years ago.
I
doubt anyone is monitoring the DoItBlind website for BlindTune
matters.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>; <dbtechies@...>; "Apple
Accessibility" <accessibility@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 16:11
Subject: latest itunes gives me trouble


i tried posting the following in a form on the blindtunes/do it blind
site, but sending it requires verification that i'm not a robot;
without
an add-on like webvisum and no checkbox saying i'm not a robot, i find
this impossible without sighted help. here's what i wrote:
today i spoke with an apple support rep regarding a shortage of
storage
space on my iphone, and after a series of brick walls trying to
restore
my iphone, i was prompted to download the latest update to itunes on
my
windows 7 desktop, which has disabled the accessibility and
controllability of earlier versions. i can't find a way, using nvda
or
jaws, to get to the itunes radio tree view to select favorite
stations,
like i did before. please advise the version of nvda/jaws/itunes
needed
to restore itunes' functionality and accessibility with a
screenreader,
giving access to the different tree views like radio, library, store,
etc., plus how to install any necessary scripts. reverting to an
earlier itunes version may block any future attempts to restore my
iphone. thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 10/30/2018 8:48 PM, James Lockwood wrote:
This may have been posted already so if so I am sorry. But iTUnes 12
sucks
for accessibility. For me it did anyways. I am using jaws 2018 and
updated
itunes to 12. Bad mistake. I found it impossible to navigate or
return
my
views of genre artist song from left to right in that order back from
how
i had it in itunes11. I reverted back to older itunes11. Also, be
sure
you
keep a backup copy of itunes library folder in case you ever want to
go
back to whatever version you currently have. Once you update older
versions of itunes wont be able to read any library files touched by
newer
versions of iTUnes. Neweversions corrupt them for older versions.
Library
folder located c users userName appData roaming apple computers
itunes
folder. Unhide hidden files and protected protected operating files
to
find it if you dont type it into the address bar instead. Sorry for
length. Just thought someone may find it helpful. ITUnes 12 may have
been
out for a while. But just in case i can save anyone else all the time
i
have spent last day or so this post will have been worth it






























Re: latest itunes gives me trouble

douglas richard dexheimer
 

i sent copies of my original message to deaf-blind tech and apple accessibility but got no answers from them. i find jaws even less friendly with the latest itunes (without blindtunes) than nvda. from what you said earlier i'll have to give up the free radio tree view that blindtunes gave me access to with earlier itunes versions. thanks for understanding.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/12/2018 10:59 PM, Dave... wrote:
Doug,
I should point out that we are straying far astream from anything JAWS
related, so in danger of being castigated by the list owners.
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 20:50
Subject: Re: latest itunes gives me trouble
that command exits nvda, my primary screenreader; try with jaws? in
jaws it reads the current loaded script and filename. it read something
about itunes 12 settings loaded, then about playing a certain tune in
apple music.
Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
On 12/12/2018 10:41 PM, Dave... wrote:
Sounds like it's uninstalled. Press Insert+Q when you're in iTunes to be
sure.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 20:31
Subject: Re: latest itunes gives me trouble


please outline the steps to find and unload blindtunes, don't know if
it's in desktop, my computer, downloads, or what? i just found it in
the start menu and managed to uninstall; hope itunes works now? nope,
still no luck.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/12/2018 10:19 PM, Dave... wrote:
As to hot keys, those would be part of BlindTunes, which I suggest you
unload, since they have not kept up with later iTunes releases.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 20:03
Subject: Re: latest itunes gives me trouble


hotkeys don't seem to work in itunes now, have to press tab and arrows
repeatedly to find what i want.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/12/2018 9:41 PM, Dave... wrote:
Doug,

I've kept the latest BlindTunes operating, but lately I'm starting to
use
iTunes without it. Seems like iTunes is becoming more Windows-friendly,
and
JAWS is catching up.

If you update to the most recent iTunes, I think there is no way to
revert
back to a version you liked better.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>; "Apple Accessibility"
<accessibility@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 16:53
Subject: Re: latest itunes gives me trouble


does that mean i can no longer use itunes to surf the radio like i did
up to now? while i kept the working version there was no way to restore
my iphone; any use for itunes now?

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/12/2018 6:43 PM, Dave... wrote:
Doug,

BlindTunes is no longer supported -- John Martyn gave it up years ago.
I
doubt anyone is monitoring the DoItBlind website for BlindTune matters.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>; <dbtechies@...>; "Apple
Accessibility" <accessibility@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 16:11
Subject: latest itunes gives me trouble


i tried posting the following in a form on the blindtunes/do it blind
site, but sending it requires verification that i'm not a robot;
without
an add-on like webvisum and no checkbox saying i'm not a robot, i find
this impossible without sighted help. here's what i wrote:
today i spoke with an apple support rep regarding a shortage of storage
space on my iphone, and after a series of brick walls trying to restore
my iphone, i was prompted to download the latest update to itunes on my
windows 7 desktop, which has disabled the accessibility and
controllability of earlier versions. i can't find a way, using nvda or
jaws, to get to the itunes radio tree view to select favorite stations,
like i did before. please advise the version of nvda/jaws/itunes
needed
to restore itunes' functionality and accessibility with a screenreader,
giving access to the different tree views like radio, library, store,
etc., plus how to install any necessary scripts. reverting to an
earlier itunes version may block any future attempts to restore my
iphone. thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 10/30/2018 8:48 PM, James Lockwood wrote:
This may have been posted already so if so I am sorry. But iTUnes 12
sucks
for accessibility. For me it did anyways. I am using jaws 2018 and
updated
itunes to 12. Bad mistake. I found it impossible to navigate or return
my
views of genre artist song from left to right in that order back from
how
i had it in itunes11. I reverted back to older itunes11. Also, be sure
you
keep a backup copy of itunes library folder in case you ever want to
go
back to whatever version you currently have. Once you update older
versions of itunes wont be able to read any library files touched by
newer
versions of iTUnes. Neweversions corrupt them for older versions.
Library
folder located c users userName appData roaming apple computers itunes
folder. Unhide hidden files and protected protected operating files to
find it if you dont type it into the address bar instead. Sorry for
length. Just thought someone may find it helpful. ITUnes 12 may have
been
out for a while. But just in case i can save anyone else all the time
i
have spent last day or so this post will have been worth it

























Re: latest itunes gives me trouble

douglas richard dexheimer
 

every day i get tons of group emails, more than i have time to read. guess i'll have to use winamp or my browser's embedded players instead.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/12/2018 10:57 PM, Dave... wrote:
Doug,
I don't use free radio. It's possible that Apple decided to put radio on the
Apple Music app instead of iTunes. Have you kept up with the announcements?
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 20:42
Subject: Re: latest itunes gives me trouble
itunes 12.9; exploring help topics and menus. talks about using itunes
to purchase and download apple music; haven't found free radio.
Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
On 12/12/2018 10:31 PM, douglas richard dexheimer wrote:
please outline the steps to find and unload blindtunes, don't know if
it's in desktop, my computer, downloads, or what? i just found it in
the start menu and managed to uninstall; hope itunes works now? nope,
still no luck.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/12/2018 10:19 PM, Dave... wrote:
As to hot keys, those would be part of BlindTunes, which I suggest you
unload, since they have not kept up with later iTunes releases.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 20:03
Subject: Re: latest itunes gives me trouble


hotkeys don't seem to work in itunes now, have to press tab and arrows
repeatedly to find what i want.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/12/2018 9:41 PM, Dave... wrote:
Doug,

I've kept the latest BlindTunes operating, but lately I'm starting to
use
iTunes without it. Seems like iTunes is becoming more Windows-friendly,
and
JAWS is catching up.

If you update to the most recent iTunes, I think there is no way to
revert
back to a version you liked better.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>; "Apple Accessibility"
<accessibility@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 16:53
Subject: Re: latest itunes gives me trouble


does that mean i can no longer use itunes to surf the radio like i did
up to now? while i kept the working version there was no way to restore
my iphone; any use for itunes now?

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/12/2018 6:43 PM, Dave... wrote:
Doug,

BlindTunes is no longer supported -- John Martyn gave it up years
ago. I
doubt anyone is monitoring the DoItBlind website for BlindTune matters.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>; <dbtechies@...>; "Apple
Accessibility" <accessibility@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 16:11
Subject: latest itunes gives me trouble


i tried posting the following in a form on the blindtunes/do it blind
site, but sending it requires verification that i'm not a robot;
without
an add-on like webvisum and no checkbox saying i'm not a robot, i find
this impossible without sighted help. here's what i wrote:
today i spoke with an apple support rep regarding a shortage of storage
space on my iphone, and after a series of brick walls trying to restore
my iphone, i was prompted to download the latest update to itunes on my
windows 7 desktop, which has disabled the accessibility and
controllability of earlier versions. i can't find a way, using nvda or
jaws, to get to the itunes radio tree view to select favorite stations,
like i did before. please advise the version of nvda/jaws/itunes
needed
to restore itunes' functionality and accessibility with a screenreader,
giving access to the different tree views like radio, library, store,
etc., plus how to install any necessary scripts. reverting to an
earlier itunes version may block any future attempts to restore my
iphone. thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 10/30/2018 8:48 PM, James Lockwood wrote:
This may have been posted already so if so I am sorry. But iTUnes 12
sucks
for accessibility. For me it did anyways. I am using jaws 2018 and
updated
itunes to 12. Bad mistake. I found it impossible to navigate or return
my
views of genre artist song from left to right in that order back from
how
i had it in itunes11. I reverted back to older itunes11. Also, be sure
you
keep a backup copy of itunes library folder in case you ever want
to go
back to whatever version you currently have. Once you update older
versions of itunes wont be able to read any library files touched by
newer
versions of iTUnes. Neweversions corrupt them for older versions.
Library
folder located c users userName appData roaming apple computers itunes
folder. Unhide hidden files and protected protected operating files to
find it if you dont type it into the address bar instead. Sorry for
length. Just thought someone may find it helpful. ITUnes 12 may have
been
out for a while. But just in case i can save anyone else all the
time i
have spent last day or so this post will have been worth it




















Re: latest itunes gives me trouble

Dave...
 

Doug,

I should point out that we are straying far astream from anything JAWS
related, so in danger of being castigated by the list owners.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 20:50
Subject: Re: latest itunes gives me trouble


that command exits nvda, my primary screenreader; try with jaws? in
jaws it reads the current loaded script and filename. it read something
about itunes 12 settings loaded, then about playing a certain tune in
apple music.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/12/2018 10:41 PM, Dave... wrote:
Sounds like it's uninstalled. Press Insert+Q when you're in iTunes to be
sure.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 20:31
Subject: Re: latest itunes gives me trouble


please outline the steps to find and unload blindtunes, don't know if
it's in desktop, my computer, downloads, or what? i just found it in
the start menu and managed to uninstall; hope itunes works now? nope,
still no luck.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/12/2018 10:19 PM, Dave... wrote:
As to hot keys, those would be part of BlindTunes, which I suggest you
unload, since they have not kept up with later iTunes releases.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 20:03
Subject: Re: latest itunes gives me trouble


hotkeys don't seem to work in itunes now, have to press tab and arrows
repeatedly to find what i want.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/12/2018 9:41 PM, Dave... wrote:
Doug,

I've kept the latest BlindTunes operating, but lately I'm starting to
use
iTunes without it. Seems like iTunes is becoming more Windows-friendly,
and
JAWS is catching up.

If you update to the most recent iTunes, I think there is no way to
revert
back to a version you liked better.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>; "Apple Accessibility"
<accessibility@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 16:53
Subject: Re: latest itunes gives me trouble


does that mean i can no longer use itunes to surf the radio like i did
up to now? while i kept the working version there was no way to restore
my iphone; any use for itunes now?

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/12/2018 6:43 PM, Dave... wrote:
Doug,

BlindTunes is no longer supported -- John Martyn gave it up years ago.
I
doubt anyone is monitoring the DoItBlind website for BlindTune matters.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>; <dbtechies@...>; "Apple
Accessibility" <accessibility@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 16:11
Subject: latest itunes gives me trouble


i tried posting the following in a form on the blindtunes/do it blind
site, but sending it requires verification that i'm not a robot;
without
an add-on like webvisum and no checkbox saying i'm not a robot, i find
this impossible without sighted help. here's what i wrote:
today i spoke with an apple support rep regarding a shortage of storage
space on my iphone, and after a series of brick walls trying to restore
my iphone, i was prompted to download the latest update to itunes on my
windows 7 desktop, which has disabled the accessibility and
controllability of earlier versions. i can't find a way, using nvda or
jaws, to get to the itunes radio tree view to select favorite stations,
like i did before. please advise the version of nvda/jaws/itunes
needed
to restore itunes' functionality and accessibility with a screenreader,
giving access to the different tree views like radio, library, store,
etc., plus how to install any necessary scripts. reverting to an
earlier itunes version may block any future attempts to restore my
iphone. thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 10/30/2018 8:48 PM, James Lockwood wrote:
This may have been posted already so if so I am sorry. But iTUnes 12
sucks
for accessibility. For me it did anyways. I am using jaws 2018 and
updated
itunes to 12. Bad mistake. I found it impossible to navigate or return
my
views of genre artist song from left to right in that order back from
how
i had it in itunes11. I reverted back to older itunes11. Also, be sure
you
keep a backup copy of itunes library folder in case you ever want to
go
back to whatever version you currently have. Once you update older
versions of itunes wont be able to read any library files touched by
newer
versions of iTUnes. Neweversions corrupt them for older versions.
Library
folder located c users userName appData roaming apple computers itunes
folder. Unhide hidden files and protected protected operating files to
find it if you dont type it into the address bar instead. Sorry for
length. Just thought someone may find it helpful. ITUnes 12 may have
been
out for a while. But just in case i can save anyone else all the time
i
have spent last day or so this post will have been worth it

























Re: latest itunes gives me trouble

Dave...
 

Doug,

I don't use free radio. It's possible that Apple decided to put radio on the
Apple Music app instead of iTunes. Have you kept up with the announcements?

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 20:42
Subject: Re: latest itunes gives me trouble


itunes 12.9; exploring help topics and menus. talks about using itunes
to purchase and download apple music; haven't found free radio.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/12/2018 10:31 PM, douglas richard dexheimer wrote:
please outline the steps to find and unload blindtunes, don't know if
it's in desktop, my computer, downloads, or what? i just found it in
the start menu and managed to uninstall; hope itunes works now? nope,
still no luck.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/12/2018 10:19 PM, Dave... wrote:
As to hot keys, those would be part of BlindTunes, which I suggest you
unload, since they have not kept up with later iTunes releases.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 20:03
Subject: Re: latest itunes gives me trouble


hotkeys don't seem to work in itunes now, have to press tab and arrows
repeatedly to find what i want.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/12/2018 9:41 PM, Dave... wrote:
Doug,

I've kept the latest BlindTunes operating, but lately I'm starting to
use
iTunes without it. Seems like iTunes is becoming more Windows-friendly,
and
JAWS is catching up.

If you update to the most recent iTunes, I think there is no way to
revert
back to a version you liked better.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>; "Apple Accessibility"
<accessibility@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 16:53
Subject: Re: latest itunes gives me trouble


does that mean i can no longer use itunes to surf the radio like i did
up to now? while i kept the working version there was no way to restore
my iphone; any use for itunes now?

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/12/2018 6:43 PM, Dave... wrote:
Doug,

BlindTunes is no longer supported -- John Martyn gave it up years
ago. I
doubt anyone is monitoring the DoItBlind website for BlindTune matters.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>; <dbtechies@...>; "Apple
Accessibility" <accessibility@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 16:11
Subject: latest itunes gives me trouble


i tried posting the following in a form on the blindtunes/do it blind
site, but sending it requires verification that i'm not a robot;
without
an add-on like webvisum and no checkbox saying i'm not a robot, i find
this impossible without sighted help. here's what i wrote:
today i spoke with an apple support rep regarding a shortage of storage
space on my iphone, and after a series of brick walls trying to restore
my iphone, i was prompted to download the latest update to itunes on my
windows 7 desktop, which has disabled the accessibility and
controllability of earlier versions. i can't find a way, using nvda or
jaws, to get to the itunes radio tree view to select favorite stations,
like i did before. please advise the version of nvda/jaws/itunes
needed
to restore itunes' functionality and accessibility with a screenreader,
giving access to the different tree views like radio, library, store,
etc., plus how to install any necessary scripts. reverting to an
earlier itunes version may block any future attempts to restore my
iphone. thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 10/30/2018 8:48 PM, James Lockwood wrote:
This may have been posted already so if so I am sorry. But iTUnes 12
sucks
for accessibility. For me it did anyways. I am using jaws 2018 and
updated
itunes to 12. Bad mistake. I found it impossible to navigate or return
my
views of genre artist song from left to right in that order back from
how
i had it in itunes11. I reverted back to older itunes11. Also, be sure
you
keep a backup copy of itunes library folder in case you ever want
to go
back to whatever version you currently have. Once you update older
versions of itunes wont be able to read any library files touched by
newer
versions of iTUnes. Neweversions corrupt them for older versions.
Library
folder located c users userName appData roaming apple computers itunes
folder. Unhide hidden files and protected protected operating files to
find it if you dont type it into the address bar instead. Sorry for
length. Just thought someone may find it helpful. ITUnes 12 may have
been
out for a while. But just in case i can save anyone else all the
time i
have spent last day or so this post will have been worth it




















Re: latest itunes gives me trouble

Dave...
 

Sounds like you don't have BlindTunes loaded any more.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 20:50
Subject: Re: latest itunes gives me trouble


that command exits nvda, my primary screenreader; try with jaws? in
jaws it reads the current loaded script and filename. it read something
about itunes 12 settings loaded, then about playing a certain tune in
apple music.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/12/2018 10:41 PM, Dave... wrote:
Sounds like it's uninstalled. Press Insert+Q when you're in iTunes to be
sure.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 20:31
Subject: Re: latest itunes gives me trouble


please outline the steps to find and unload blindtunes, don't know if
it's in desktop, my computer, downloads, or what? i just found it in
the start menu and managed to uninstall; hope itunes works now? nope,
still no luck.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/12/2018 10:19 PM, Dave... wrote:
As to hot keys, those would be part of BlindTunes, which I suggest you
unload, since they have not kept up with later iTunes releases.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 20:03
Subject: Re: latest itunes gives me trouble


hotkeys don't seem to work in itunes now, have to press tab and arrows
repeatedly to find what i want.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/12/2018 9:41 PM, Dave... wrote:
Doug,

I've kept the latest BlindTunes operating, but lately I'm starting to
use
iTunes without it. Seems like iTunes is becoming more Windows-friendly,
and
JAWS is catching up.

If you update to the most recent iTunes, I think there is no way to
revert
back to a version you liked better.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>; "Apple Accessibility"
<accessibility@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 16:53
Subject: Re: latest itunes gives me trouble


does that mean i can no longer use itunes to surf the radio like i did
up to now? while i kept the working version there was no way to restore
my iphone; any use for itunes now?

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/12/2018 6:43 PM, Dave... wrote:
Doug,

BlindTunes is no longer supported -- John Martyn gave it up years ago.
I
doubt anyone is monitoring the DoItBlind website for BlindTune matters.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>; <dbtechies@...>; "Apple
Accessibility" <accessibility@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 16:11
Subject: latest itunes gives me trouble


i tried posting the following in a form on the blindtunes/do it blind
site, but sending it requires verification that i'm not a robot;
without
an add-on like webvisum and no checkbox saying i'm not a robot, i find
this impossible without sighted help. here's what i wrote:
today i spoke with an apple support rep regarding a shortage of storage
space on my iphone, and after a series of brick walls trying to restore
my iphone, i was prompted to download the latest update to itunes on my
windows 7 desktop, which has disabled the accessibility and
controllability of earlier versions. i can't find a way, using nvda or
jaws, to get to the itunes radio tree view to select favorite stations,
like i did before. please advise the version of nvda/jaws/itunes
needed
to restore itunes' functionality and accessibility with a screenreader,
giving access to the different tree views like radio, library, store,
etc., plus how to install any necessary scripts. reverting to an
earlier itunes version may block any future attempts to restore my
iphone. thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 10/30/2018 8:48 PM, James Lockwood wrote:
This may have been posted already so if so I am sorry. But iTUnes 12
sucks
for accessibility. For me it did anyways. I am using jaws 2018 and
updated
itunes to 12. Bad mistake. I found it impossible to navigate or return
my
views of genre artist song from left to right in that order back from
how
i had it in itunes11. I reverted back to older itunes11. Also, be sure
you
keep a backup copy of itunes library folder in case you ever want to
go
back to whatever version you currently have. Once you update older
versions of itunes wont be able to read any library files touched by
newer
versions of iTUnes. Neweversions corrupt them for older versions.
Library
folder located c users userName appData roaming apple computers itunes
folder. Unhide hidden files and protected protected operating files to
find it if you dont type it into the address bar instead. Sorry for
length. Just thought someone may find it helpful. ITUnes 12 may have
been
out for a while. But just in case i can save anyone else all the time
i
have spent last day or so this post will have been worth it

























Re: latest itunes gives me trouble

douglas richard dexheimer
 

that command exits nvda, my primary screenreader; try with jaws? in jaws it reads the current loaded script and filename. it read something about itunes 12 settings loaded, then about playing a certain tune in apple music.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/12/2018 10:41 PM, Dave... wrote:
Sounds like it's uninstalled. Press Insert+Q when you're in iTunes to be
sure.
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 20:31
Subject: Re: latest itunes gives me trouble
please outline the steps to find and unload blindtunes, don't know if
it's in desktop, my computer, downloads, or what? i just found it in
the start menu and managed to uninstall; hope itunes works now? nope,
still no luck.
Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
On 12/12/2018 10:19 PM, Dave... wrote:
As to hot keys, those would be part of BlindTunes, which I suggest you
unload, since they have not kept up with later iTunes releases.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 20:03
Subject: Re: latest itunes gives me trouble


hotkeys don't seem to work in itunes now, have to press tab and arrows
repeatedly to find what i want.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/12/2018 9:41 PM, Dave... wrote:
Doug,

I've kept the latest BlindTunes operating, but lately I'm starting to use
iTunes without it. Seems like iTunes is becoming more Windows-friendly,
and
JAWS is catching up.

If you update to the most recent iTunes, I think there is no way to
revert
back to a version you liked better.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>; "Apple Accessibility" <accessibility@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 16:53
Subject: Re: latest itunes gives me trouble


does that mean i can no longer use itunes to surf the radio like i did
up to now? while i kept the working version there was no way to restore
my iphone; any use for itunes now?

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/12/2018 6:43 PM, Dave... wrote:
Doug,

BlindTunes is no longer supported -- John Martyn gave it up years ago. I
doubt anyone is monitoring the DoItBlind website for BlindTune matters.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>; <dbtechies@...>; "Apple
Accessibility" <accessibility@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 16:11
Subject: latest itunes gives me trouble


i tried posting the following in a form on the blindtunes/do it blind
site, but sending it requires verification that i'm not a robot; without
an add-on like webvisum and no checkbox saying i'm not a robot, i find
this impossible without sighted help. here's what i wrote:
today i spoke with an apple support rep regarding a shortage of storage
space on my iphone, and after a series of brick walls trying to restore
my iphone, i was prompted to download the latest update to itunes on my
windows 7 desktop, which has disabled the accessibility and
controllability of earlier versions. i can't find a way, using nvda or
jaws, to get to the itunes radio tree view to select favorite stations,
like i did before. please advise the version of nvda/jaws/itunes needed
to restore itunes' functionality and accessibility with a screenreader,
giving access to the different tree views like radio, library, store,
etc., plus how to install any necessary scripts. reverting to an
earlier itunes version may block any future attempts to restore my
iphone. thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 10/30/2018 8:48 PM, James Lockwood wrote:
This may have been posted already so if so I am sorry. But iTUnes 12
sucks
for accessibility. For me it did anyways. I am using jaws 2018 and
updated
itunes to 12. Bad mistake. I found it impossible to navigate or return
my
views of genre artist song from left to right in that order back from
how
i had it in itunes11. I reverted back to older itunes11. Also, be sure
you
keep a backup copy of itunes library folder in case you ever want to go
back to whatever version you currently have. Once you update older
versions of itunes wont be able to read any library files touched by
newer
versions of iTUnes. Neweversions corrupt them for older versions.
Library
folder located c users userName appData roaming apple computers itunes
folder. Unhide hidden files and protected protected operating files to
find it if you dont type it into the address bar instead. Sorry for
length. Just thought someone may find it helpful. ITUnes 12 may have
been
out for a while. But just in case i can save anyone else all the time i
have spent last day or so this post will have been worth it




















Re: latest itunes gives me trouble

douglas richard dexheimer
 

itunes 12.9; exploring help topics and menus. talks about using itunes to purchase and download apple music; haven't found free radio.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/12/2018 10:31 PM, douglas richard dexheimer wrote:
please outline the steps to find and unload blindtunes, don't know if it's in desktop, my computer, downloads, or what?  i just found it in the start menu and managed to uninstall; hope itunes works now?  nope, still no luck.
Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
On 12/12/2018 10:19 PM, Dave... wrote:
As to hot keys, those would be part of BlindTunes, which I suggest you
unload, since they have not kept up with later iTunes releases.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 20:03
Subject: Re: latest itunes gives me trouble


hotkeys don't seem to work in itunes now, have to press tab and arrows
repeatedly to find what i want.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/12/2018 9:41 PM, Dave... wrote:
Doug,

I've kept the latest BlindTunes operating, but lately I'm starting to use
iTunes without it. Seems like iTunes is becoming more Windows-friendly,
and
JAWS is catching up.

If you update to the most recent iTunes, I think there is no way to revert
back to a version you liked better.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>; "Apple Accessibility" <accessibility@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 16:53
Subject: Re: latest itunes gives me trouble


does that mean i can no longer use itunes to surf the radio like i did
up to now?  while i kept the working version there was no way to restore
my iphone; any use for itunes now?

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/12/2018 6:43 PM, Dave... wrote:
Doug,

BlindTunes is no longer supported -- John Martyn gave it up years ago. I
doubt anyone is monitoring the DoItBlind website for BlindTune matters.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>; <dbtechies@...>; "Apple
Accessibility" <accessibility@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 16:11
Subject: latest itunes gives me trouble


i tried posting the following in a form on the blindtunes/do it blind
site, but sending it requires verification that i'm not a robot; without
an add-on like webvisum and no checkbox saying i'm not a robot, i find
this impossible without sighted help.  here's what i wrote:
today i spoke with an apple support rep regarding a shortage of storage
space on my iphone, and after a series of brick walls trying to restore
my iphone, i was prompted to download the latest update to itunes on my
windows 7 desktop, which has disabled the accessibility and
controllability of earlier versions.  i can't find a way, using nvda or
jaws, to get to the itunes radio tree view to select favorite stations,
like i did before.  please advise the version of nvda/jaws/itunes needed
to restore itunes' functionality and accessibility with a screenreader,
giving access to the different tree views like radio, library, store,
etc., plus how to install any necessary scripts.  reverting to an
earlier itunes version may block any future attempts to restore my
iphone.  thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 10/30/2018 8:48 PM, James Lockwood wrote:
This may have been posted already so if so I am sorry. But iTUnes 12
sucks
for accessibility. For me it did anyways. I am using jaws 2018 and
updated
itunes to 12. Bad mistake. I found it impossible to navigate or return
my
views of genre artist song from left to right in that order back from
how
i had it in itunes11. I reverted back to older itunes11. Also, be sure
you
keep a backup copy of itunes library folder in case you ever want to go
back to whatever version you currently have. Once you update older
versions of itunes wont be able to read any library files touched by
newer
versions of iTUnes. Neweversions corrupt them for older versions.
Library
folder located c users userName appData roaming apple computers itunes
folder. Unhide hidden files and protected protected operating files to
find it if you dont type it into the address bar instead. Sorry for
length. Just thought someone may find it helpful. ITUnes 12 may have
been
out for a while. But just in case i can save anyone else all the time i
have spent last day or so this post will have been worth it



















Re: latest itunes gives me trouble

Dave...
 

Sounds like it's uninstalled. Press Insert+Q when you're in iTunes to be
sure.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 20:31
Subject: Re: latest itunes gives me trouble


please outline the steps to find and unload blindtunes, don't know if
it's in desktop, my computer, downloads, or what? i just found it in
the start menu and managed to uninstall; hope itunes works now? nope,
still no luck.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/12/2018 10:19 PM, Dave... wrote:
As to hot keys, those would be part of BlindTunes, which I suggest you
unload, since they have not kept up with later iTunes releases.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 20:03
Subject: Re: latest itunes gives me trouble


hotkeys don't seem to work in itunes now, have to press tab and arrows
repeatedly to find what i want.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/12/2018 9:41 PM, Dave... wrote:
Doug,

I've kept the latest BlindTunes operating, but lately I'm starting to use
iTunes without it. Seems like iTunes is becoming more Windows-friendly,
and
JAWS is catching up.

If you update to the most recent iTunes, I think there is no way to
revert
back to a version you liked better.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>; "Apple Accessibility" <accessibility@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 16:53
Subject: Re: latest itunes gives me trouble


does that mean i can no longer use itunes to surf the radio like i did
up to now? while i kept the working version there was no way to restore
my iphone; any use for itunes now?

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/12/2018 6:43 PM, Dave... wrote:
Doug,

BlindTunes is no longer supported -- John Martyn gave it up years ago. I
doubt anyone is monitoring the DoItBlind website for BlindTune matters.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>; <dbtechies@...>; "Apple
Accessibility" <accessibility@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 16:11
Subject: latest itunes gives me trouble


i tried posting the following in a form on the blindtunes/do it blind
site, but sending it requires verification that i'm not a robot; without
an add-on like webvisum and no checkbox saying i'm not a robot, i find
this impossible without sighted help. here's what i wrote:
today i spoke with an apple support rep regarding a shortage of storage
space on my iphone, and after a series of brick walls trying to restore
my iphone, i was prompted to download the latest update to itunes on my
windows 7 desktop, which has disabled the accessibility and
controllability of earlier versions. i can't find a way, using nvda or
jaws, to get to the itunes radio tree view to select favorite stations,
like i did before. please advise the version of nvda/jaws/itunes needed
to restore itunes' functionality and accessibility with a screenreader,
giving access to the different tree views like radio, library, store,
etc., plus how to install any necessary scripts. reverting to an
earlier itunes version may block any future attempts to restore my
iphone. thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 10/30/2018 8:48 PM, James Lockwood wrote:
This may have been posted already so if so I am sorry. But iTUnes 12
sucks
for accessibility. For me it did anyways. I am using jaws 2018 and
updated
itunes to 12. Bad mistake. I found it impossible to navigate or return
my
views of genre artist song from left to right in that order back from
how
i had it in itunes11. I reverted back to older itunes11. Also, be sure
you
keep a backup copy of itunes library folder in case you ever want to go
back to whatever version you currently have. Once you update older
versions of itunes wont be able to read any library files touched by
newer
versions of iTUnes. Neweversions corrupt them for older versions.
Library
folder located c users userName appData roaming apple computers itunes
folder. Unhide hidden files and protected protected operating files to
find it if you dont type it into the address bar instead. Sorry for
length. Just thought someone may find it helpful. ITUnes 12 may have
been
out for a while. But just in case i can save anyone else all the time i
have spent last day or so this post will have been worth it




















Re: latest itunes gives me trouble

douglas richard dexheimer
 

view menu, media kind submenu, radio option missing

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/12/2018 10:31 PM, douglas richard dexheimer wrote:
please outline the steps to find and unload blindtunes, don't know if it's in desktop, my computer, downloads, or what?  i just found it in the start menu and managed to uninstall; hope itunes works now?  nope, still no luck.
Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
On 12/12/2018 10:19 PM, Dave... wrote:
As to hot keys, those would be part of BlindTunes, which I suggest you
unload, since they have not kept up with later iTunes releases.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 20:03
Subject: Re: latest itunes gives me trouble


hotkeys don't seem to work in itunes now, have to press tab and arrows
repeatedly to find what i want.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/12/2018 9:41 PM, Dave... wrote:
Doug,

I've kept the latest BlindTunes operating, but lately I'm starting to use
iTunes without it. Seems like iTunes is becoming more Windows-friendly,
and
JAWS is catching up.

If you update to the most recent iTunes, I think there is no way to revert
back to a version you liked better.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>; "Apple Accessibility" <accessibility@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 16:53
Subject: Re: latest itunes gives me trouble


does that mean i can no longer use itunes to surf the radio like i did
up to now?  while i kept the working version there was no way to restore
my iphone; any use for itunes now?

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/12/2018 6:43 PM, Dave... wrote:
Doug,

BlindTunes is no longer supported -- John Martyn gave it up years ago. I
doubt anyone is monitoring the DoItBlind website for BlindTune matters.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>; <dbtechies@...>; "Apple
Accessibility" <accessibility@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 16:11
Subject: latest itunes gives me trouble


i tried posting the following in a form on the blindtunes/do it blind
site, but sending it requires verification that i'm not a robot; without
an add-on like webvisum and no checkbox saying i'm not a robot, i find
this impossible without sighted help.  here's what i wrote:
today i spoke with an apple support rep regarding a shortage of storage
space on my iphone, and after a series of brick walls trying to restore
my iphone, i was prompted to download the latest update to itunes on my
windows 7 desktop, which has disabled the accessibility and
controllability of earlier versions.  i can't find a way, using nvda or
jaws, to get to the itunes radio tree view to select favorite stations,
like i did before.  please advise the version of nvda/jaws/itunes needed
to restore itunes' functionality and accessibility with a screenreader,
giving access to the different tree views like radio, library, store,
etc., plus how to install any necessary scripts.  reverting to an
earlier itunes version may block any future attempts to restore my
iphone.  thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 10/30/2018 8:48 PM, James Lockwood wrote:
This may have been posted already so if so I am sorry. But iTUnes 12
sucks
for accessibility. For me it did anyways. I am using jaws 2018 and
updated
itunes to 12. Bad mistake. I found it impossible to navigate or return
my
views of genre artist song from left to right in that order back from
how
i had it in itunes11. I reverted back to older itunes11. Also, be sure
you
keep a backup copy of itunes library folder in case you ever want to go
back to whatever version you currently have. Once you update older
versions of itunes wont be able to read any library files touched by
newer
versions of iTUnes. Neweversions corrupt them for older versions.
Library
folder located c users userName appData roaming apple computers itunes
folder. Unhide hidden files and protected protected operating files to
find it if you dont type it into the address bar instead. Sorry for
length. Just thought someone may find it helpful. ITUnes 12 may have
been
out for a while. But just in case i can save anyone else all the time i
have spent last day or so this post will have been worth it



















Re: latest itunes gives me trouble

douglas richard dexheimer
 

please outline the steps to find and unload blindtunes, don't know if it's in desktop, my computer, downloads, or what? i just found it in the start menu and managed to uninstall; hope itunes works now? nope, still no luck.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/12/2018 10:19 PM, Dave... wrote:
As to hot keys, those would be part of BlindTunes, which I suggest you
unload, since they have not kept up with later iTunes releases.
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 20:03
Subject: Re: latest itunes gives me trouble
hotkeys don't seem to work in itunes now, have to press tab and arrows
repeatedly to find what i want.
Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
On 12/12/2018 9:41 PM, Dave... wrote:
Doug,

I've kept the latest BlindTunes operating, but lately I'm starting to use
iTunes without it. Seems like iTunes is becoming more Windows-friendly,
and
JAWS is catching up.

If you update to the most recent iTunes, I think there is no way to revert
back to a version you liked better.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>; "Apple Accessibility" <accessibility@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 16:53
Subject: Re: latest itunes gives me trouble


does that mean i can no longer use itunes to surf the radio like i did
up to now? while i kept the working version there was no way to restore
my iphone; any use for itunes now?

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/12/2018 6:43 PM, Dave... wrote:
Doug,

BlindTunes is no longer supported -- John Martyn gave it up years ago. I
doubt anyone is monitoring the DoItBlind website for BlindTune matters.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>; <dbtechies@...>; "Apple
Accessibility" <accessibility@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 16:11
Subject: latest itunes gives me trouble


i tried posting the following in a form on the blindtunes/do it blind
site, but sending it requires verification that i'm not a robot; without
an add-on like webvisum and no checkbox saying i'm not a robot, i find
this impossible without sighted help. here's what i wrote:
today i spoke with an apple support rep regarding a shortage of storage
space on my iphone, and after a series of brick walls trying to restore
my iphone, i was prompted to download the latest update to itunes on my
windows 7 desktop, which has disabled the accessibility and
controllability of earlier versions. i can't find a way, using nvda or
jaws, to get to the itunes radio tree view to select favorite stations,
like i did before. please advise the version of nvda/jaws/itunes needed
to restore itunes' functionality and accessibility with a screenreader,
giving access to the different tree views like radio, library, store,
etc., plus how to install any necessary scripts. reverting to an
earlier itunes version may block any future attempts to restore my
iphone. thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 10/30/2018 8:48 PM, James Lockwood wrote:
This may have been posted already so if so I am sorry. But iTUnes 12
sucks
for accessibility. For me it did anyways. I am using jaws 2018 and
updated
itunes to 12. Bad mistake. I found it impossible to navigate or return
my
views of genre artist song from left to right in that order back from
how
i had it in itunes11. I reverted back to older itunes11. Also, be sure
you
keep a backup copy of itunes library folder in case you ever want to go
back to whatever version you currently have. Once you update older
versions of itunes wont be able to read any library files touched by
newer
versions of iTUnes. Neweversions corrupt them for older versions.
Library
folder located c users userName appData roaming apple computers itunes
folder. Unhide hidden files and protected protected operating files to
find it if you dont type it into the address bar instead. Sorry for
length. Just thought someone may find it helpful. ITUnes 12 may have
been
out for a while. But just in case i can save anyone else all the time i
have spent last day or so this post will have been worth it















Re: latest itunes gives me trouble

douglas richard dexheimer
 

how do i check/read version number?

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/12/2018 10:21 PM, Dave... wrote:
The Control+numbers has changed over time. Which version of iTunes do you
have installed?
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 19:55
Subject: Re: latest itunes gives me trouble
may be true on your (dave's) system, but not mine. i used to be able to
move to the radio tree view with control+9, but that keystroke does
nothing now. i'm cycling through radiobuttons that i can't seem to
activate even when checked, even the radio radiobutton doesn't take me
to the familiar tree view (adult contemporary, alternative, country, etc.)
Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
On 12/12/2018 9:41 PM, Dave... wrote:
Doug,

I've kept the latest BlindTunes operating, but lately I'm starting to use
iTunes without it. Seems like iTunes is becoming more Windows-friendly,
and
JAWS is catching up.

If you update to the most recent iTunes, I think there is no way to revert
back to a version you liked better.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>; "Apple Accessibility" <accessibility@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 16:53
Subject: Re: latest itunes gives me trouble


does that mean i can no longer use itunes to surf the radio like i did
up to now? while i kept the working version there was no way to restore
my iphone; any use for itunes now?

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/12/2018 6:43 PM, Dave... wrote:
Doug,

BlindTunes is no longer supported -- John Martyn gave it up years ago. I
doubt anyone is monitoring the DoItBlind website for BlindTune matters.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>; <dbtechies@...>; "Apple
Accessibility" <accessibility@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 16:11
Subject: latest itunes gives me trouble


i tried posting the following in a form on the blindtunes/do it blind
site, but sending it requires verification that i'm not a robot; without
an add-on like webvisum and no checkbox saying i'm not a robot, i find
this impossible without sighted help. here's what i wrote:
today i spoke with an apple support rep regarding a shortage of storage
space on my iphone, and after a series of brick walls trying to restore
my iphone, i was prompted to download the latest update to itunes on my
windows 7 desktop, which has disabled the accessibility and
controllability of earlier versions. i can't find a way, using nvda or
jaws, to get to the itunes radio tree view to select favorite stations,
like i did before. please advise the version of nvda/jaws/itunes needed
to restore itunes' functionality and accessibility with a screenreader,
giving access to the different tree views like radio, library, store,
etc., plus how to install any necessary scripts. reverting to an
earlier itunes version may block any future attempts to restore my
iphone. thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 10/30/2018 8:48 PM, James Lockwood wrote:
This may have been posted already so if so I am sorry. But iTUnes 12
sucks
for accessibility. For me it did anyways. I am using jaws 2018 and
updated
itunes to 12. Bad mistake. I found it impossible to navigate or return
my
views of genre artist song from left to right in that order back from
how
i had it in itunes11. I reverted back to older itunes11. Also, be sure
you
keep a backup copy of itunes library folder in case you ever want to go
back to whatever version you currently have. Once you update older
versions of itunes wont be able to read any library files touched by
newer
versions of iTUnes. Neweversions corrupt them for older versions.
Library
folder located c users userName appData roaming apple computers itunes
folder. Unhide hidden files and protected protected operating files to
find it if you dont type it into the address bar instead. Sorry for
length. Just thought someone may find it helpful. ITUnes 12 may have
been
out for a while. But just in case i can save anyone else all the time i
have spent last day or so this post will have been worth it















Re: latest itunes gives me trouble

Dave...
 

The Control+numbers has changed over time. Which version of iTunes do you
have installed?

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 19:55
Subject: Re: latest itunes gives me trouble


may be true on your (dave's) system, but not mine. i used to be able to
move to the radio tree view with control+9, but that keystroke does
nothing now. i'm cycling through radiobuttons that i can't seem to
activate even when checked, even the radio radiobutton doesn't take me
to the familiar tree view (adult contemporary, alternative, country, etc.)

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/12/2018 9:41 PM, Dave... wrote:
Doug,

I've kept the latest BlindTunes operating, but lately I'm starting to use
iTunes without it. Seems like iTunes is becoming more Windows-friendly,
and
JAWS is catching up.

If you update to the most recent iTunes, I think there is no way to revert
back to a version you liked better.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>; "Apple Accessibility" <accessibility@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 16:53
Subject: Re: latest itunes gives me trouble


does that mean i can no longer use itunes to surf the radio like i did
up to now? while i kept the working version there was no way to restore
my iphone; any use for itunes now?

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/12/2018 6:43 PM, Dave... wrote:
Doug,

BlindTunes is no longer supported -- John Martyn gave it up years ago. I
doubt anyone is monitoring the DoItBlind website for BlindTune matters.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>; <dbtechies@...>; "Apple
Accessibility" <accessibility@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 16:11
Subject: latest itunes gives me trouble


i tried posting the following in a form on the blindtunes/do it blind
site, but sending it requires verification that i'm not a robot; without
an add-on like webvisum and no checkbox saying i'm not a robot, i find
this impossible without sighted help. here's what i wrote:
today i spoke with an apple support rep regarding a shortage of storage
space on my iphone, and after a series of brick walls trying to restore
my iphone, i was prompted to download the latest update to itunes on my
windows 7 desktop, which has disabled the accessibility and
controllability of earlier versions. i can't find a way, using nvda or
jaws, to get to the itunes radio tree view to select favorite stations,
like i did before. please advise the version of nvda/jaws/itunes needed
to restore itunes' functionality and accessibility with a screenreader,
giving access to the different tree views like radio, library, store,
etc., plus how to install any necessary scripts. reverting to an
earlier itunes version may block any future attempts to restore my
iphone. thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 10/30/2018 8:48 PM, James Lockwood wrote:
This may have been posted already so if so I am sorry. But iTUnes 12
sucks
for accessibility. For me it did anyways. I am using jaws 2018 and
updated
itunes to 12. Bad mistake. I found it impossible to navigate or return
my
views of genre artist song from left to right in that order back from
how
i had it in itunes11. I reverted back to older itunes11. Also, be sure
you
keep a backup copy of itunes library folder in case you ever want to go
back to whatever version you currently have. Once you update older
versions of itunes wont be able to read any library files touched by
newer
versions of iTUnes. Neweversions corrupt them for older versions.
Library
folder located c users userName appData roaming apple computers itunes
folder. Unhide hidden files and protected protected operating files to
find it if you dont type it into the address bar instead. Sorry for
length. Just thought someone may find it helpful. ITUnes 12 may have
been
out for a while. But just in case i can save anyone else all the time i
have spent last day or so this post will have been worth it















Re: latest itunes gives me trouble

Dave...
 

I don't use the store, either.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 19:56
Subject: Re: latest itunes gives me trouble


i use itunes to manage my iphone and surf the radio, not for the store,
library, apple music, etc.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/12/2018 9:41 PM, Dave... wrote:
Doug,

I've kept the latest BlindTunes operating, but lately I'm starting to use
iTunes without it. Seems like iTunes is becoming more Windows-friendly,
and
JAWS is catching up.

If you update to the most recent iTunes, I think there is no way to revert
back to a version you liked better.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>; "Apple Accessibility" <accessibility@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 16:53
Subject: Re: latest itunes gives me trouble


does that mean i can no longer use itunes to surf the radio like i did
up to now? while i kept the working version there was no way to restore
my iphone; any use for itunes now?

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/12/2018 6:43 PM, Dave... wrote:
Doug,

BlindTunes is no longer supported -- John Martyn gave it up years ago. I
doubt anyone is monitoring the DoItBlind website for BlindTune matters.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>; <dbtechies@...>; "Apple
Accessibility" <accessibility@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 16:11
Subject: latest itunes gives me trouble


i tried posting the following in a form on the blindtunes/do it blind
site, but sending it requires verification that i'm not a robot; without
an add-on like webvisum and no checkbox saying i'm not a robot, i find
this impossible without sighted help. here's what i wrote:
today i spoke with an apple support rep regarding a shortage of storage
space on my iphone, and after a series of brick walls trying to restore
my iphone, i was prompted to download the latest update to itunes on my
windows 7 desktop, which has disabled the accessibility and
controllability of earlier versions. i can't find a way, using nvda or
jaws, to get to the itunes radio tree view to select favorite stations,
like i did before. please advise the version of nvda/jaws/itunes needed
to restore itunes' functionality and accessibility with a screenreader,
giving access to the different tree views like radio, library, store,
etc., plus how to install any necessary scripts. reverting to an
earlier itunes version may block any future attempts to restore my
iphone. thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 10/30/2018 8:48 PM, James Lockwood wrote:
This may have been posted already so if so I am sorry. But iTUnes 12
sucks
for accessibility. For me it did anyways. I am using jaws 2018 and
updated
itunes to 12. Bad mistake. I found it impossible to navigate or return
my
views of genre artist song from left to right in that order back from
how
i had it in itunes11. I reverted back to older itunes11. Also, be sure
you
keep a backup copy of itunes library folder in case you ever want to go
back to whatever version you currently have. Once you update older
versions of itunes wont be able to read any library files touched by
newer
versions of iTUnes. Neweversions corrupt them for older versions.
Library
folder located c users userName appData roaming apple computers itunes
folder. Unhide hidden files and protected protected operating files to
find it if you dont type it into the address bar instead. Sorry for
length. Just thought someone may find it helpful. ITUnes 12 may have
been
out for a while. But just in case i can save anyone else all the time i
have spent last day or so this post will have been worth it















Re: latest itunes gives me trouble

Dave...
 

As to hot keys, those would be part of BlindTunes, which I suggest you
unload, since they have not kept up with later iTunes releases.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 20:03
Subject: Re: latest itunes gives me trouble


hotkeys don't seem to work in itunes now, have to press tab and arrows
repeatedly to find what i want.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/12/2018 9:41 PM, Dave... wrote:
Doug,

I've kept the latest BlindTunes operating, but lately I'm starting to use
iTunes without it. Seems like iTunes is becoming more Windows-friendly,
and
JAWS is catching up.

If you update to the most recent iTunes, I think there is no way to revert
back to a version you liked better.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>; "Apple Accessibility" <accessibility@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 16:53
Subject: Re: latest itunes gives me trouble


does that mean i can no longer use itunes to surf the radio like i did
up to now? while i kept the working version there was no way to restore
my iphone; any use for itunes now?

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/12/2018 6:43 PM, Dave... wrote:
Doug,

BlindTunes is no longer supported -- John Martyn gave it up years ago. I
doubt anyone is monitoring the DoItBlind website for BlindTune matters.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>; <dbtechies@...>; "Apple
Accessibility" <accessibility@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 16:11
Subject: latest itunes gives me trouble


i tried posting the following in a form on the blindtunes/do it blind
site, but sending it requires verification that i'm not a robot; without
an add-on like webvisum and no checkbox saying i'm not a robot, i find
this impossible without sighted help. here's what i wrote:
today i spoke with an apple support rep regarding a shortage of storage
space on my iphone, and after a series of brick walls trying to restore
my iphone, i was prompted to download the latest update to itunes on my
windows 7 desktop, which has disabled the accessibility and
controllability of earlier versions. i can't find a way, using nvda or
jaws, to get to the itunes radio tree view to select favorite stations,
like i did before. please advise the version of nvda/jaws/itunes needed
to restore itunes' functionality and accessibility with a screenreader,
giving access to the different tree views like radio, library, store,
etc., plus how to install any necessary scripts. reverting to an
earlier itunes version may block any future attempts to restore my
iphone. thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 10/30/2018 8:48 PM, James Lockwood wrote:
This may have been posted already so if so I am sorry. But iTUnes 12
sucks
for accessibility. For me it did anyways. I am using jaws 2018 and
updated
itunes to 12. Bad mistake. I found it impossible to navigate or return
my
views of genre artist song from left to right in that order back from
how
i had it in itunes11. I reverted back to older itunes11. Also, be sure
you
keep a backup copy of itunes library folder in case you ever want to go
back to whatever version you currently have. Once you update older
versions of itunes wont be able to read any library files touched by
newer
versions of iTUnes. Neweversions corrupt them for older versions.
Library
folder located c users userName appData roaming apple computers itunes
folder. Unhide hidden files and protected protected operating files to
find it if you dont type it into the address bar instead. Sorry for
length. Just thought someone may find it helpful. ITUnes 12 may have
been
out for a while. But just in case i can save anyone else all the time i
have spent last day or so this post will have been worth it















Re: latest itunes gives me trouble

douglas richard dexheimer
 

upon opening itunes i get a data grid; how do i navigate that? how do i get to the sidebar menu to turn on? tabbed to sidebar and selected show, find radiobuttons for each control; no luck with the radio tree view so far. featured stations in apple music, selecting one brings up a genius sound and it looks like i have to pay to listen, whereas the familiar tree view i mentioned before was free. upon selecting a station this message pops up: Play and download all the music you want.
Join to listen to millions of songs and your entire music library on all your devices.
Get 3 Months Free
i don't want that, i want the old tree view i remember in earlier versions that behaved better.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/12/2018 9:42 PM, Dave... wrote:
Doug,
See if you can turn on the sidebar menu.
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>; "Apple Accessibility" <accessibility@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 17:51
Subject: Re: latest itunes gives me trouble
can no longer access the tree view of stations by categories adult
contemporary, alternative, blues, classical, country, r&b/soul,
religious, etc.
Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
On 12/12/2018 6:53 PM, douglas richard dexheimer wrote:
does that mean i can no longer use itunes to surf the radio like i did
up to now? while i kept the working version there was no way to restore
my iphone; any use for itunes now?

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/12/2018 6:43 PM, Dave... wrote:
Doug,

BlindTunes is no longer supported -- John Martyn gave it up years ago. I
doubt anyone is monitoring the DoItBlind website for BlindTune matters.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>; <dbtechies@...>; "Apple
Accessibility" <accessibility@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 16:11
Subject: latest itunes gives me trouble


i tried posting the following in a form on the blindtunes/do it blind
site, but sending it requires verification that i'm not a robot; without
an add-on like webvisum and no checkbox saying i'm not a robot, i find
this impossible without sighted help. here's what i wrote:
today i spoke with an apple support rep regarding a shortage of storage
space on my iphone, and after a series of brick walls trying to restore
my iphone, i was prompted to download the latest update to itunes on my
windows 7 desktop, which has disabled the accessibility and
controllability of earlier versions. i can't find a way, using nvda or
jaws, to get to the itunes radio tree view to select favorite stations,
like i did before. please advise the version of nvda/jaws/itunes needed
to restore itunes' functionality and accessibility with a screenreader,
giving access to the different tree views like radio, library, store,
etc., plus how to install any necessary scripts. reverting to an
earlier itunes version may block any future attempts to restore my
iphone. thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 10/30/2018 8:48 PM, James Lockwood wrote:
This may have been posted already so if so I am sorry. But iTUnes 12
sucks
for accessibility. For me it did anyways. I am using jaws 2018 and
updated
itunes to 12. Bad mistake. I found it impossible to navigate or
return my
views of genre artist song from left to right in that order back from
how
i had it in itunes11. I reverted back to older itunes11. Also, be
sure you
keep a backup copy of itunes library folder in case you ever want to go
back to whatever version you currently have. Once you update older
versions of itunes wont be able to read any library files touched by
newer
versions of iTUnes. Neweversions corrupt them for older versions.
Library
folder located c users userName appData roaming apple computers itunes
folder. Unhide hidden files and protected protected operating files to
find it if you dont type it into the address bar instead. Sorry for
length. Just thought someone may find it helpful. ITUnes 12 may have
been
out for a while. But just in case i can save anyone else all the time i
have spent last day or so this post will have been worth it










Re: latest itunes gives me trouble

douglas richard dexheimer
 

hotkeys don't seem to work in itunes now, have to press tab and arrows repeatedly to find what i want.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/12/2018 9:41 PM, Dave... wrote:
Doug,
I've kept the latest BlindTunes operating, but lately I'm starting to use
iTunes without it. Seems like iTunes is becoming more Windows-friendly, and
JAWS is catching up.
If you update to the most recent iTunes, I think there is no way to revert
back to a version you liked better.
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>; "Apple Accessibility" <accessibility@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 16:53
Subject: Re: latest itunes gives me trouble
does that mean i can no longer use itunes to surf the radio like i did
up to now? while i kept the working version there was no way to restore
my iphone; any use for itunes now?
Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
On 12/12/2018 6:43 PM, Dave... wrote:
Doug,

BlindTunes is no longer supported -- John Martyn gave it up years ago. I
doubt anyone is monitoring the DoItBlind website for BlindTune matters.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>; <dbtechies@...>; "Apple
Accessibility" <accessibility@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 16:11
Subject: latest itunes gives me trouble


i tried posting the following in a form on the blindtunes/do it blind
site, but sending it requires verification that i'm not a robot; without
an add-on like webvisum and no checkbox saying i'm not a robot, i find
this impossible without sighted help. here's what i wrote:
today i spoke with an apple support rep regarding a shortage of storage
space on my iphone, and after a series of brick walls trying to restore
my iphone, i was prompted to download the latest update to itunes on my
windows 7 desktop, which has disabled the accessibility and
controllability of earlier versions. i can't find a way, using nvda or
jaws, to get to the itunes radio tree view to select favorite stations,
like i did before. please advise the version of nvda/jaws/itunes needed
to restore itunes' functionality and accessibility with a screenreader,
giving access to the different tree views like radio, library, store,
etc., plus how to install any necessary scripts. reverting to an
earlier itunes version may block any future attempts to restore my
iphone. thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 10/30/2018 8:48 PM, James Lockwood wrote:
This may have been posted already so if so I am sorry. But iTUnes 12
sucks
for accessibility. For me it did anyways. I am using jaws 2018 and
updated
itunes to 12. Bad mistake. I found it impossible to navigate or return my
views of genre artist song from left to right in that order back from how
i had it in itunes11. I reverted back to older itunes11. Also, be sure
you
keep a backup copy of itunes library folder in case you ever want to go
back to whatever version you currently have. Once you update older
versions of itunes wont be able to read any library files touched by
newer
versions of iTUnes. Neweversions corrupt them for older versions. Library
folder located c users userName appData roaming apple computers itunes
folder. Unhide hidden files and protected protected operating files to
find it if you dont type it into the address bar instead. Sorry for
length. Just thought someone may find it helpful. ITUnes 12 may have been
out for a while. But just in case i can save anyone else all the time i
have spent last day or so this post will have been worth it










Re: latest itunes gives me trouble

douglas richard dexheimer
 

i use itunes to manage my iphone and surf the radio, not for the store, library, apple music, etc.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/12/2018 9:41 PM, Dave... wrote:
Doug,
I've kept the latest BlindTunes operating, but lately I'm starting to use
iTunes without it. Seems like iTunes is becoming more Windows-friendly, and
JAWS is catching up.
If you update to the most recent iTunes, I think there is no way to revert
back to a version you liked better.
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>; "Apple Accessibility" <accessibility@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 16:53
Subject: Re: latest itunes gives me trouble
does that mean i can no longer use itunes to surf the radio like i did
up to now? while i kept the working version there was no way to restore
my iphone; any use for itunes now?
Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
On 12/12/2018 6:43 PM, Dave... wrote:
Doug,

BlindTunes is no longer supported -- John Martyn gave it up years ago. I
doubt anyone is monitoring the DoItBlind website for BlindTune matters.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>; <dbtechies@...>; "Apple
Accessibility" <accessibility@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 16:11
Subject: latest itunes gives me trouble


i tried posting the following in a form on the blindtunes/do it blind
site, but sending it requires verification that i'm not a robot; without
an add-on like webvisum and no checkbox saying i'm not a robot, i find
this impossible without sighted help. here's what i wrote:
today i spoke with an apple support rep regarding a shortage of storage
space on my iphone, and after a series of brick walls trying to restore
my iphone, i was prompted to download the latest update to itunes on my
windows 7 desktop, which has disabled the accessibility and
controllability of earlier versions. i can't find a way, using nvda or
jaws, to get to the itunes radio tree view to select favorite stations,
like i did before. please advise the version of nvda/jaws/itunes needed
to restore itunes' functionality and accessibility with a screenreader,
giving access to the different tree views like radio, library, store,
etc., plus how to install any necessary scripts. reverting to an
earlier itunes version may block any future attempts to restore my
iphone. thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 10/30/2018 8:48 PM, James Lockwood wrote:
This may have been posted already so if so I am sorry. But iTUnes 12
sucks
for accessibility. For me it did anyways. I am using jaws 2018 and
updated
itunes to 12. Bad mistake. I found it impossible to navigate or return my
views of genre artist song from left to right in that order back from how
i had it in itunes11. I reverted back to older itunes11. Also, be sure
you
keep a backup copy of itunes library folder in case you ever want to go
back to whatever version you currently have. Once you update older
versions of itunes wont be able to read any library files touched by
newer
versions of iTUnes. Neweversions corrupt them for older versions. Library
folder located c users userName appData roaming apple computers itunes
folder. Unhide hidden files and protected protected operating files to
find it if you dont type it into the address bar instead. Sorry for
length. Just thought someone may find it helpful. ITUnes 12 may have been
out for a while. But just in case i can save anyone else all the time i
have spent last day or so this post will have been worth it










Re: latest itunes gives me trouble

douglas richard dexheimer
 

may be true on your (dave's) system, but not mine. i used to be able to move to the radio tree view with control+9, but that keystroke does nothing now. i'm cycling through radiobuttons that i can't seem to activate even when checked, even the radio radiobutton doesn't take me to the familiar tree view (adult contemporary, alternative, country, etc.)

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/12/2018 9:41 PM, Dave... wrote:
Doug,
I've kept the latest BlindTunes operating, but lately I'm starting to use
iTunes without it. Seems like iTunes is becoming more Windows-friendly, and
JAWS is catching up.
If you update to the most recent iTunes, I think there is no way to revert
back to a version you liked better.
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>; "Apple Accessibility" <accessibility@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 16:53
Subject: Re: latest itunes gives me trouble
does that mean i can no longer use itunes to surf the radio like i did
up to now? while i kept the working version there was no way to restore
my iphone; any use for itunes now?
Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
On 12/12/2018 6:43 PM, Dave... wrote:
Doug,

BlindTunes is no longer supported -- John Martyn gave it up years ago. I
doubt anyone is monitoring the DoItBlind website for BlindTune matters.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>; <dbtechies@...>; "Apple
Accessibility" <accessibility@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 16:11
Subject: latest itunes gives me trouble


i tried posting the following in a form on the blindtunes/do it blind
site, but sending it requires verification that i'm not a robot; without
an add-on like webvisum and no checkbox saying i'm not a robot, i find
this impossible without sighted help. here's what i wrote:
today i spoke with an apple support rep regarding a shortage of storage
space on my iphone, and after a series of brick walls trying to restore
my iphone, i was prompted to download the latest update to itunes on my
windows 7 desktop, which has disabled the accessibility and
controllability of earlier versions. i can't find a way, using nvda or
jaws, to get to the itunes radio tree view to select favorite stations,
like i did before. please advise the version of nvda/jaws/itunes needed
to restore itunes' functionality and accessibility with a screenreader,
giving access to the different tree views like radio, library, store,
etc., plus how to install any necessary scripts. reverting to an
earlier itunes version may block any future attempts to restore my
iphone. thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 10/30/2018 8:48 PM, James Lockwood wrote:
This may have been posted already so if so I am sorry. But iTUnes 12
sucks
for accessibility. For me it did anyways. I am using jaws 2018 and
updated
itunes to 12. Bad mistake. I found it impossible to navigate or return my
views of genre artist song from left to right in that order back from how
i had it in itunes11. I reverted back to older itunes11. Also, be sure
you
keep a backup copy of itunes library folder in case you ever want to go
back to whatever version you currently have. Once you update older
versions of itunes wont be able to read any library files touched by
newer
versions of iTUnes. Neweversions corrupt them for older versions. Library
folder located c users userName appData roaming apple computers itunes
folder. Unhide hidden files and protected protected operating files to
find it if you dont type it into the address bar instead. Sorry for
length. Just thought someone may find it helpful. ITUnes 12 may have been
out for a while. But just in case i can save anyone else all the time i
have spent last day or so this post will have been worth it