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moderated Re: Jaws and Express Scribe

David F. <scopist65@...>
 

Hello,

 

Is it possible to email me off list?  I have some questions and hate to tie up the list.  I can’t figure out how to reply just to you, control-shift-r doesn’t do it and I can’t find your email after the list heading.

 

I would like to ask you some questions.

 

My email is scopist65@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lee Anne Atkinson
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 12:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws and Express Scribe

 

Hi,

 

I transcribe in a Word document so I have the full functionality of Word.  If I need to tweak the play back I switch to Express Scribe and then back to Word. 

 

L

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David F.
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 9:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws and Express Scribe

 

Dear Lee Anne;

 

I did start up the software and took a try at it.  It seems to work okay, but I don’t have all the commands I need yet.  Do you actually transcribe in the Express Scribe or run a word processor with it?

 

Did you use a tutorial or have help to learn the software?

 

Please email me off list if you prefer to let me know what resources you used.

 

Thank you

David

Scopist65@...

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lee Anne Atkinson
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 4:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws and Express Scribe

 

Hi,

 

I currently use Express Scribe for medical transcription and it is pretty good.  I use a foot pedal to control the dictation, which helps a lot.  There are a pair of slider bars for controlling volume and speed for the mouse users out there but otherwise you can tailor speed/tone/volume/playback through menu choices.  I use the free version. 

 

Hope that helps.

 

Lee Anne

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David F.
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2019 8:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws and Express Scribe

 

Hello,

 

I’m new here but joined expressly so that I might ask if anyone on this list does transcription.  It can be medical, legal, or other.  If so, what transcription software do you use?  Do you use Express Scribe or another software package?

 

Thank you

 

Virus-free. www.avast.com


moderated Re: Jaws no longer reads the Windows 10 emoji panel

 

Hi,
If it is what I think is happening, then it isn't JAWS at all - it might be Windows 10 Version 1903, and last time I heard from another forum, this problem was reported to Vispero.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Munawar Bijani
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 11:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws no longer reads the Windows 10 emoji panel

Mine works fine, I just now tested it with JAWS 2019. Try pressing down arrow instead of left/right arrow. Up/down travel inside the category.

On 6/18/2019 2:09 PM, ann wrote:
Hi,


With the latest update to Jaws, I can now no longer read the Windows
emoji panel. It apparently does pop up, and I can arrow around and
pres Enter to insert emojis, but Jaws speaks nothing at all now.


Is there a fix for this


~Ann?




moderated Re: Jaws no longer reads the Windows 10 emoji panel

Munawar Bijani <munawarb@...>
 

Mine works fine, I just now tested it with JAWS 2019. Try pressing down arrow instead of left/right arrow. Up/down travel inside the category.

On 6/18/2019 2:09 PM, ann wrote:
Hi,


With the latest update to Jaws, I can now no longer read the Windows emoji panel. It apparently does pop up, and I can arrow around and pres Enter to insert emojis, but Jaws speaks nothing at all now.


Is there a fix for this


~Ann?



moderated Re: outlook no longer automatically updating my inbox folder

Munawar Bijani <munawarb@...>
 

Yes, there is no startup option since Outlook will always check for new mail at startup. If you want to configure send/receive behavior you need to go down to Advanced and click the Send/receive button in your mail group as the article points out.

On 6/18/2019 1:52 PM, Rick Mladek wrote:
I am using Office 2019 and within the options > mail settings, there is only an auto check for new mail upon exiting, not at start-up.

Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Munawar Bijani
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 1:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: outlook no longer automatically updating my inbox folder

A quick Google search turned up this article.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/312336/e-mail-messages-are-not-automatically-sent-or-received-at-startup-in-o


I've personally never had this issue but if you shut your system down improperly or something like that sometimes the supporting files and databases can become corrupt.

On 6/18/2019 1:14 PM, John Covici wrote:
In that group there is nothing about startup, just schedule
send/receive after so many minutes set to 30.

On Tue, 18 Jun 2019 12:50:36 -0400,
Bill White wrote:
Make sure that under Send and Receive (my shortcut is ALT plus
CONTROL plus
S) that your account is set to send and receive at startup.

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
John Covici
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 9:26 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: outlook no longer automatically updating my inbox folder

Hi. I am not sure when this started, maybe a week or so ago, but
outlook 2016 -- office 365 version -- is no longer updating
automatically when I open it. It does work if I use the ribbon to go
to the send-receive tab and push the button that says send-receive
all folders, but only then. Anyone know what is happening or is
anyone seeing this?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@ccs.covici.com











moderated Jaws no longer reads the Windows 10 emoji panel

ann
 

Hi,


With the latest update to Jaws, I can now no longer read the Windows emoji panel. It apparently does pop up, and I can arrow around and pres Enter to insert emojis, but Jaws speaks nothing at all now.


Is there a fix for this


~Ann?


moderated jaws 2019 and latest version of thunderbird

dennis
 

is anyone else having problems with atachments lists in thunderbird? jaws says horisontal list box and won't list the atachments. it says the number of atachments in the list but won't show them. anyone else having this issue?

--
Dennis Cornelison

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moderated Re: outlook no longer automatically updating my inbox folder

Rick Mladek
 

I am using Office 2019 and within the options > mail settings, there is only an auto check for new mail upon exiting, not at start-up.

Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Munawar Bijani
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 1:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: outlook no longer automatically updating my inbox folder

A quick Google search turned up this article.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/312336/e-mail-messages-are-not-automatically-sent-or-received-at-startup-in-o


I've personally never had this issue but if you shut your system down improperly or something like that sometimes the supporting files and databases can become corrupt.

On 6/18/2019 1:14 PM, John Covici wrote:
In that group there is nothing about startup, just schedule
send/receive after so many minutes set to 30.

On Tue, 18 Jun 2019 12:50:36 -0400,
Bill White wrote:
Make sure that under Send and Receive (my shortcut is ALT plus
CONTROL plus
S) that your account is set to send and receive at startup.

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
John Covici
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 9:26 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: outlook no longer automatically updating my inbox folder

Hi. I am not sure when this started, maybe a week or so ago, but
outlook 2016 -- office 365 version -- is no longer updating
automatically when I open it. It does work if I use the ribbon to go
to the send-receive tab and push the button that says send-receive
all folders, but only then. Anyone know what is happening or is
anyone seeing this?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@ccs.covici.com









moderated Re: outlook no longer automatically updating my inbox folder

Munawar Bijani <munawarb@...>
 

A quick Google search turned up this article.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/312336/e-mail-messages-are-not-automatically-sent-or-received-at-startup-in-o


I've personally never had this issue but if you shut your system down improperly or something like that sometimes the supporting files and databases can become corrupt.

On 6/18/2019 1:14 PM, John Covici wrote:
In that group there is nothing about startup, just schedule
send/receive after so many minutes set to 30.

On Tue, 18 Jun 2019 12:50:36 -0400,
Bill White wrote:
Make sure that under Send and Receive (my shortcut is ALT plus CONTROL plus
S) that your account is set to send and receive at startup.

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John
Covici
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 9:26 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: outlook no longer automatically updating my inbox folder

Hi. I am not sure when this started, maybe a week or so ago, but
outlook 2016 -- office 365 version -- is no longer updating
automatically when I open it. It does work if I use the ribbon to go
to the send-receive tab and push the button that says send-receive all
folders, but only then. Anyone know what is happening or is anyone
seeing this?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@ccs.covici.com









moderated Re: outlook no longer automatically updating my inbox folder

John Covici
 

In that group there is nothing about startup, just schedule
send/receive after so many minutes set to 30.

On Tue, 18 Jun 2019 12:50:36 -0400,
Bill White wrote:

Make sure that under Send and Receive (my shortcut is ALT plus CONTROL plus
S) that your account is set to send and receive at startup.

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John
Covici
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 9:26 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: outlook no longer automatically updating my inbox folder

Hi. I am not sure when this started, maybe a week or so ago, but
outlook 2016 -- office 365 version -- is no longer updating
automatically when I open it. It does work if I use the ribbon to go
to the send-receive tab and push the button that says send-receive all
folders, but only then. Anyone know what is happening or is anyone
seeing this?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@ccs.covici.com








--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@ccs.covici.com


moderated Re: Jaws and Express Scribe

Lee Anne Atkinson
 

Hi,

 

I transcribe in a Word document so I have the full functionality of Word.  If I need to tweak the play back I switch to Express Scribe and then back to Word. 

 

L

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David F.
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 9:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws and Express Scribe

 

Dear Lee Anne;

 

I did start up the software and took a try at it.  It seems to work okay, but I don’t have all the commands I need yet.  Do you actually transcribe in the Express Scribe or run a word processor with it?

 

Did you use a tutorial or have help to learn the software?

 

Please email me off list if you prefer to let me know what resources you used.

 

Thank you

David

Scopist65@...

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lee Anne Atkinson
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 4:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws and Express Scribe

 

Hi,

 

I currently use Express Scribe for medical transcription and it is pretty good.  I use a foot pedal to control the dictation, which helps a lot.  There are a pair of slider bars for controlling volume and speed for the mouse users out there but otherwise you can tailor speed/tone/volume/playback through menu choices.  I use the free version. 

 

Hope that helps.

 

Lee Anne

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David F.
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2019 8:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws and Express Scribe

 

Hello,

 

I’m new here but joined expressly so that I might ask if anyone on this list does transcription.  It can be medical, legal, or other.  If so, what transcription software do you use?  Do you use Express Scribe or another software package?

 

Thank you

 

Virus-free. www.avast.com


moderated Re: outlook no longer automatically updating my inbox folder

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Make sure that under Send and Receive (my shortcut is ALT plus CONTROL plus
S) that your account is set to send and receive at startup.

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John
Covici
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 9:26 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: outlook no longer automatically updating my inbox folder

Hi. I am not sure when this started, maybe a week or so ago, but
outlook 2016 -- office 365 version -- is no longer updating
automatically when I open it. It does work if I use the ribbon to go
to the send-receive tab and push the button that says send-receive all
folders, but only then. Anyone know what is happening or is anyone
seeing this?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@ccs.covici.com


moderated Re: Jaws and Express Scribe

Loreal Lavigna
 

I am a legal and medical transcriptionist and have been for the past 20 years. I have used Express scribe for nearly 90%  of that time, and find it to be the most accessible and user-friendly program.

Loreal Lavigna
Legal/Medical Transcriptionist
Phone:  (518)330-5188


On Tue, Jun 18, 2019, 5:50 AM Lee Anne Atkinson <lee.atkinson@...> wrote:

Hi,

 

I currently use Express Scribe for medical transcription and it is pretty good.  I use a foot pedal to control the dictation, which helps a lot.  There are a pair of slider bars for controlling volume and speed for the mouse users out there but otherwise you can tailor speed/tone/volume/playback through menu choices.  I use the free version. 

 

Hope that helps.

 

Lee Anne

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David F.
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2019 8:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws and Express Scribe

 

Hello,

 

I’m new here but joined expressly so that I might ask if anyone on this list does transcription.  It can be medical, legal, or other.  If so, what transcription software do you use?  Do you use Express Scribe or another software package?

 

Thank you

 

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moderated outlook no longer automatically updating my inbox folder

John Covici
 

Hi. I am not sure when this started, maybe a week or so ago, but
outlook 2016 -- office 365 version -- is no longer updating
automatically when I open it. It does work if I use the ribbon to go
to the send-receive tab and push the button that says send-receive all
folders, but only then. Anyone know what is happening or is anyone
seeing this?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@ccs.covici.com


moderated Re: Jaws and Express Scribe

David F. <scopist65@...>
 

Dear Lee Anne;

 

I did start up the software and took a try at it.  It seems to work okay, but I don’t have all the commands I need yet.  Do you actually transcribe in the Express Scribe or run a word processor with it?

 

Did you use a tutorial or have help to learn the software?

 

Please email me off list if you prefer to let me know what resources you used.

 

Thank you

David

Scopist65@...

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lee Anne Atkinson
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 4:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws and Express Scribe

 

Hi,

 

I currently use Express Scribe for medical transcription and it is pretty good.  I use a foot pedal to control the dictation, which helps a lot.  There are a pair of slider bars for controlling volume and speed for the mouse users out there but otherwise you can tailor speed/tone/volume/playback through menu choices.  I use the free version. 

 

Hope that helps.

 

Lee Anne

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David F.
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2019 8:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws and Express Scribe

 

Hello,

 

I’m new here but joined expressly so that I might ask if anyone on this list does transcription.  It can be medical, legal, or other.  If so, what transcription software do you use?  Do you use Express Scribe or another software package?

 

Thank you

 

Virus-free. www.avast.com


moderated Re: Jaws and Express Scribe

Lee Anne Atkinson
 

Hi,

 

I currently use Express Scribe for medical transcription and it is pretty good.  I use a foot pedal to control the dictation, which helps a lot.  There are a pair of slider bars for controlling volume and speed for the mouse users out there but otherwise you can tailor speed/tone/volume/playback through menu choices.  I use the free version. 

 

Hope that helps.

 

Lee Anne

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David F.
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2019 8:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws and Express Scribe

 

Hello,

 

I’m new here but joined expressly so that I might ask if anyone on this list does transcription.  It can be medical, legal, or other.  If so, what transcription software do you use?  Do you use Express Scribe or another software package?

 

Thank you

 

Virus-free. www.avast.com


moderated Re: using visual studio

Annabelle Susan Morison
 

Like I said before, I don't have $99.00. My machine hasn't given me any nagging notifications, everything works fine the way it is. I'm going to try Munawar Bijani's suggestion of Code Blocks.



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marvin Hunkin
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2019 4:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: using visual studio

Hi. Yes, visual studio 2017, works great with jaws and I am using visual studio 2019, and works great with jaws 2019. Annabelle, you can be able and eligible to get a one year subscription for jaws 2019 for $99, and can pay online via the freedom scientific.com site. Then, jaws 2019, will work with windows 7, but windows 7 is not being supported by Microsoft by January 14 2020. Windows 10, is a combination of windows 7 and 8.1. so, have been using it for almost 5 years, so, if you need help with windows 10. As your windows 7 machine, has a nagging notification saying it will not be supported.

Marvin.

Ps: if you need any help e-mail me and will try to help with jaws, windows 7, and windows 10.


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moderated Jaws and Express Scribe

David F. <scopist65@...>
 

Hello,

 

I’m new here but joined expressly so that I might ask if anyone on this list does transcription.  It can be medical, legal, or other.  If so, what transcription software do you use?  Do you use Express Scribe or another software package?

 

Thank you


Virus-free. www.avast.com


moderated using visual studio

Marvin Hunkin <startrekvoyager@...>
 

Hi. Yes, visual studio 2017, works great with jaws and I am using visual studio 2019, and works great with jaws 2019. Annablle, you can be able and eligible to get a one year subscription for jaws 2019 for $99, and can pay online via the freedom scientific.com site. Then, jaws 2019, will work with windows 7, but windows 7 is not being supported by Microsoft by January 14 2020. Windows 10, is a combination of windows 7 and 8.1. so, have been using it for almost 5 years, so, if you need help with windows 10. As your windows 7 machine, has a nagging notification saying it will not be supported.

Marvin.

Ps: if you need any help e-mail me and will try to help with jaws, windows 7, and windows 10.


Virus-free. www.avast.com


moderated Re: Accessible Version of Visual Studio?

Munawar Bijani <munawarb@...>
 

Ok, then you can use Code::Blocks. http://www.codeblocks.org/. Check the Features page for a list of languages it supports. One of them is MSVC++.

On 6/17/2019 5:20 PM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:
I'm trying to code in C++, which I believe is a language that not only is recognized by all operating systems, but someone, though I'm not sure who, said it can be recognized by JAWS. Right now, the Ceremony Script Generator I'm making has its pages coded in html, but that only seems to work with web browsers. I want to be able to take those same HTML pages I made, and code them in C++ so they'll work as a standalone application that customers can use on their computers.


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Munawar Bijani
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2019 1:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible Version of Visual Studio?

Well it all depends on what you're trying to do. Why do you need visual studio specifically? If you share what language you're coding in I can point you to alternate but slightly less accessible software.

On Jun 17, 2019, at 2:52 PM, Annabelle Susan Morison <foristnights@...> wrote:

I'm sticking with Windows 7 and JAWS 15, since they work very well for me. As for programs, what would be a fully accessible solution for my current configuration? I'd like a program that I can work with on any machine, where I won't have to install it, one that doesn't require me to have an account, and most important of all, won't take forever to configure!


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Munawar Bijani
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2019 11:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible Version of Visual Studio?

Hi,

Ok, if cost is prohibitive for you, I would suggest switching to NVDA, installing Windows 10 and using VS 2017. Both NVDA and JAWS work really well with VS 2017 (though NVDA's performance is slower compared to JAWS' performance in this program.)


If you're in the US, you can get on the JAWS Home Annual program; alternatively, you can get JAWS Home at no cost to you if you're a university student and your university has a site-wide license for JAWS.


Try to find a way to upgrade to Windows 10 and install the latest VS (which is free by the way) before deciding definitely that you MUST stick to VS 2005.


Getting VS 2005 will be difficult since it has been dropped by Microsoft. Unless you have an MSDN account, you'll have to get a copy from someone who still has a copy of it and hope that they haven't injected malicious code into the program, and that they give you a registration key if it's not VS Express.

On 6/17/2019 1:35 PM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:
I got my computer with Windows 7 back in 2011, and I got a free upgrade to JAWS 15, thanks to Freedom Scientific in 2017. Unfortunately, JAWS 15 is the latest build my SMA allows me to run. As for Windows Updates, they cause my CD Rom drive to shut off after several hours, which makes JAWS turn into demo mode, despite the fact that I have an authenticated version with a valid license. It's a pain in the cushioned rear! My sighted friend, Markus Johnson (yes, that's "Markus" with a "K", not a "C"), is the one who tells me not to update that machine, since both of us found out the hard way what it does. In fact, it was Markus who formatted the wrong hard drive by accident, as we were going by drive letter, so the second time we had to restore the machine, we learned that you actually have to go by model number (like ST1000 or ST3500). And, I don't use the Internet with that machine, since I only perform music and audio recordings and beginning programming on it.


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Munawar Bijani
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2019 8:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible Version of Visual Studio?

Hi,

I've found VS 2017 to be great in accessibility, mostly because it implements UIA rather than whatever Microsoft was using when VS 2005 was around.


I'd argue that 2017 is the most accessible version yet. I use it at work every day and it works really well with both JAWS and NVDA.


Why does updating Windows "break" things for you? I'd get that sorted out if I were you; people really shouldn't be using VS 2005 nowadays. Technology is so different from what it used to be and I strongly recommend staying current, especially with development tools. Things like the VC++ runtimes are updated with each new version of Visual Studio as well, and many of these updates patch security holes that you really don't want floating around.

On 6/17/2019 10:46 AM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:
Hi, it's Annabelle.
I've read somewhere that Visual Studio has a version that's fully accessible to JAWS. The version I was told is fully accessible is Visual Studio 2005. The problem is, I'm not sure where to get that one, especially a copy that's clean and free of viruses, malware, adware, spyware, and the like. I've tried the new version, but it updates Windows, which breaks screenreader compatibility on my machine. I've already had to restore it back to working order by reimaging the hard drive three times within 8 years! The first time, I formatted the wrong hard drive by accident, and now I have to recover what I didn't get the chance to back up on that hard drive. If I can't get Visual Studio 2005, I wonder what programming alternative I can use? Particularly I want to program my own virtual instruments and audio software, as well as software that lets customers write their own scripts for ceremonies. The site where I read about the accessibility of Visual Studio 2005 is here: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/118984/how-can-you-program-if-youre-blind


moderated Re: Accessible Version of Visual Studio?

Annabelle Susan Morison
 

I'm trying to code in C++, which I believe is a language that not only is recognized by all operating systems, but someone, though I'm not sure who, said it can be recognized by JAWS. Right now, the Ceremony Script Generator I'm making has its pages coded in html, but that only seems to work with web browsers. I want to be able to take those same HTML pages I made, and code them in C++ so they'll work as a standalone application that customers can use on their computers.



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Munawar Bijani
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2019 1:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible Version of Visual Studio?

Well it all depends on what you're trying to do. Why do you need visual studio specifically? If you share what language you're coding in I can point you to alternate but slightly less accessible software.

On Jun 17, 2019, at 2:52 PM, Annabelle Susan Morison <foristnights@...> wrote:

I'm sticking with Windows 7 and JAWS 15, since they work very well for me. As for programs, what would be a fully accessible solution for my current configuration? I'd like a program that I can work with on any machine, where I won't have to install it, one that doesn't require me to have an account, and most important of all, won't take forever to configure!


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Munawar Bijani
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2019 11:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible Version of Visual Studio?

Hi,

Ok, if cost is prohibitive for you, I would suggest switching to NVDA, installing Windows 10 and using VS 2017. Both NVDA and JAWS work really well with VS 2017 (though NVDA's performance is slower compared to JAWS' performance in this program.)


If you're in the US, you can get on the JAWS Home Annual program; alternatively, you can get JAWS Home at no cost to you if you're a university student and your university has a site-wide license for JAWS.


Try to find a way to upgrade to Windows 10 and install the latest VS (which is free by the way) before deciding definitely that you MUST stick to VS 2005.


Getting VS 2005 will be difficult since it has been dropped by Microsoft. Unless you have an MSDN account, you'll have to get a copy from someone who still has a copy of it and hope that they haven't injected malicious code into the program, and that they give you a registration key if it's not VS Express.

On 6/17/2019 1:35 PM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:
I got my computer with Windows 7 back in 2011, and I got a free upgrade to JAWS 15, thanks to Freedom Scientific in 2017. Unfortunately, JAWS 15 is the latest build my SMA allows me to run. As for Windows Updates, they cause my CD Rom drive to shut off after several hours, which makes JAWS turn into demo mode, despite the fact that I have an authenticated version with a valid license. It's a pain in the cushioned rear! My sighted friend, Markus Johnson (yes, that's "Markus" with a "K", not a "C"), is the one who tells me not to update that machine, since both of us found out the hard way what it does. In fact, it was Markus who formatted the wrong hard drive by accident, as we were going by drive letter, so the second time we had to restore the machine, we learned that you actually have to go by model number (like ST1000 or ST3500). And, I don't use the Internet with that machine, since I only perform music and audio recordings and beginning programming on it.


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Munawar Bijani
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2019 8:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible Version of Visual Studio?

Hi,

I've found VS 2017 to be great in accessibility, mostly because it implements UIA rather than whatever Microsoft was using when VS 2005 was around.


I'd argue that 2017 is the most accessible version yet. I use it at work every day and it works really well with both JAWS and NVDA.


Why does updating Windows "break" things for you? I'd get that sorted out if I were you; people really shouldn't be using VS 2005 nowadays. Technology is so different from what it used to be and I strongly recommend staying current, especially with development tools. Things like the VC++ runtimes are updated with each new version of Visual Studio as well, and many of these updates patch security holes that you really don't want floating around.

On 6/17/2019 10:46 AM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:
Hi, it's Annabelle.
I've read somewhere that Visual Studio has a version that's fully accessible to JAWS. The version I was told is fully accessible is Visual Studio 2005. The problem is, I'm not sure where to get that one, especially a copy that's clean and free of viruses, malware, adware, spyware, and the like. I've tried the new version, but it updates Windows, which breaks screenreader compatibility on my machine. I've already had to restore it back to working order by reimaging the hard drive three times within 8 years! The first time, I formatted the wrong hard drive by accident, and now I have to recover what I didn't get the chance to back up on that hard drive. If I can't get Visual Studio 2005, I wonder what programming alternative I can use? Particularly I want to program my own virtual instruments and audio software, as well as software that lets customers write their own scripts for ceremonies. The site where I read about the accessibility of Visual Studio 2005 is here: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/118984/how-can-you-program-if-youre-blind

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