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Jaws made accessible a new job opportunity: stenographer.

Daniele Casarola
 

Hi!
Together with Jaws developer we made accessible a job that it wasn't before: I mean to be a stenographer.

Basically it means to listen and transcribe, which is used for Court reporting, realtime subtitling, any situation where you have to type really really fast, as fast as a person speaks.
In the bast there was not audio feedback of what a stenographer types. Now a Jaws plugin allows it.

For those who are interested in deepening the subject I've made a simple video which explain broadly.:
https://youtu.be/oNlLTbTCRj8

Hope it can help somebody as it helped me.
Daniele.


Re: Jaws 2018 an Excel cell reading.

Daniele Casarola
 

Thank you very much Sieghard for your help.

Yes now it works.

Have a nice day.

Daniele


safe boot and jaws 2019 issue

Michael Amaro
 

Hello Listers,
 
I am running windows 10 1803 latest jaws 2019.  IWent in to safe boot to run disk cleanup.  Tried loading jaws 2019, it wouldn't load.  Had to go back to jaws 2018 When in safe boot.
 
thanks
 
Michael Amaro                    


Re: Admin: Restoring some sanity and civility to the list.

David & his pack of dogs
 

Sorry, just as I got your post, I sent my message, delete it if you want. 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Homuth
Sent: November 4, 2018 9:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Admin: Restoring some sanity and civility to the list.

 

Folks,

It would appear that somewhere along the way we seem to have lost the plot. Ordinarily that in and of itself wouldn't be quite a problem, as you guys are usually pretty good at letting things die down naturally. However, this weekend's rather intense conversations have lead to not one, but I count currently at least 3 active and on-going threads that have left the actual original topic of discussion crying in the corner. Since that's not what this list is here for, I will be going through and closing those threads starting in the next 2 minutes. I would encourage the instigators in the group (you know who you are and so do I) not to take that as an invitation to reopen them. Let's attempt to get back on course, shall we? This is a JAWS list. If you want to discuss the practicality, ethics or worthyness of one man's particular income stream, do it privately.

Also, let's try and be mindful of rule 5 going forward. People get moderated when things get personal. Leet's maybe not get personal. Thanks, and remember, we've all got opinions. There's as much room for theirs as there is for yours. ... Except those Apple dorks. Those guys are just weird.

James,
List Admin


locked Re: The waist of things, not including JAWS

David & his pack of dogs
 

The garbage dump here has a free store where you can pick up things for free the only provision is it must not look horrible. I picked up a 30-channel equalizer there. They have a lot of stuff that if you want to you could practically furnish your place with. Unfortunately they do not take computers. I say unfortunately because it goes to the bottle depot which takes not just returnables also TVS and other electronics. Why is it unfortunate? Because they by law have to dispose of them. Some are pretty much brand new according to a former manager of the bottle depot. Businesses such as government agencies get the latest and greatest and have to dispose of their older models. It is a real shame the waist of good products that goes on in North America. Mind you, on an Australian list someone got a iPhone X for Christmas of this year and by Feb. they were trying to sell it. Me, I use something till it smokes accept JAWS.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Larry Wayland
Sent: November 4, 2018 3:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

I don't think anyone is saying that. Dumpster diving doesn't necessarily mean hiding behind a restaurant waiting for a pizza to be thrown out. I have talked to a person who had normal sight and a good job who would go through dumpsters in industrial parks looking for discarded items. Now my understanding is companies don't throw away normal trash. This guy, and people doing the same thing, look for quite valuable items such as electronics, book shelves, tables. He told me that a lot of these items need little or no repair. He told me you would be surprised what these companies would throw away. He told me that one time he had found a set of track lights that he sold for over a thousand dollars. Now Ipersonally don't intend to go out and partisapate in this activety, but if there are people who do then more power to them. Maybe it is kind like a hobby or something. It would be fun to do research on this activety and see just what a person could do though.
Larry




-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Lockwood
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 2:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

I refuse to believe because a person is blind it means they have to dig through dumpsters in order to make a living. It’s called having dignity

On Nov 4, 2018, at 3:01 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <@Sieghard> wrote:

Hi David,

If I put my pop cans or anything which I can collect money on if I bring it to the recycling centre into my recycling bin which is picked up and where I get nothing for it then it is not steeling if somebody picks out said pop cans. It is no different than if I threw the cans into the trash and somebody came by to pick them out (essentially dumpster diving). If I collect my cans in my carport in a bin so I can take them to the recycling centre once a month and somebody comes on my property and goes under my carport to grab those cans then that is steeling and, of course, trespassing.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David & his pack of dogs
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 8:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

I found the message James was referring too. When my brother lived with us before I got married, I would get reports of him going into people's recycling box that they had put out on the curb to be picked up by the municipality and taking out the empty pop cans or beer cans . Then he would take them to a store and cash them in for money. This is how he would supplement his income. To me this is steeling. Now, having said this, we run dogs on a trail and frequently find the same things, empties. We cash them in, however, to us it is just cleaning up the environment. Especially when the amount we cashed in could not even pay for a 32 G, SD card. There was someone that would go to beaches on weekends and clean them up. She made enough money doing this each year that she could go to Hawaii every year.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Lockwood
Sent: November 3, 2018 8:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

Dumpster diving? I find that offensive. If you recommend blind people go dumpster diving then you are an idiot. And I don’t care if your offended by that. Deal with it.

On Nov 3, 2018, at 10:02 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <@Sieghard> wrote:

Dumster diving? Is this your sense of humour or are you actually serious?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Peter Donahue
Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2018 6:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Don't Make Assumptions!

Hello again everyone,

Truthfully we've suggested a number of different ideas to different blind individuals for generating needed income to cover the cost of technologhy Some of these included dumpster diving,becoming certified Braille transcribers and proofreaders along with other ideas. Before writing this note I sent a message to an old schoolfriend of mine who has written a number of books one of which is in audio format. He said that his audio version sold out and he no longer had copies on CD but could provide them in MP3 format. I suggested making his book available through Audible allowing many others to buy it in an audio format and adding an additional source of passive income to his portfolio. That has as much to do with network marketing as this list! All the best.

Peter Donahue


Admin: Restoring some sanity and civility to the list.

James Homuth
 

Folks,

It would appear that somewhere along the way we seem to have lost the plot. Ordinarily that in and of itself wouldn't be quite a problem, as you guys are usually pretty good at letting things die down naturally. However, this weekend's rather intense conversations have lead to not one, but I count currently at least 3 active and on-going threads that have left the actual original topic of discussion crying in the corner. Since that's not what this list is here for, I will be going through and closing those threads starting in the next 2 minutes. I would encourage the instigators in the group (you know who you are and so do I) not to take that as an invitation to reopen them. Let's attempt to get back on course, shall we? This is a JAWS list. If you want to discuss the practicality, ethics or worthyness of one man's particular income stream, do it privately.

Also, let's try and be mindful of rule 5 going forward. People get moderated when things get personal. Leet's maybe not get personal. Thanks, and remember, we've all got opinions. There's as much room for theirs as there is for yours. ... Except those Apple dorks. Those guys are just weird.

James,
List Admin


Re: Jaws 19 shortcut key and Windows 10

Richard Turner
 


Your messages have come to the list and to set the shortcut, go to the desktop and get focus on Jaws, and hit alt-enter to bring up the properties and tab to shortcut and press the keys you want to use. Then tab to apply and hit space and then OK, unless you have the user account controls and you have to then give it permission to finish.
Richard



"It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good books which are your very own." __  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle 

On Nov 4, 2018, at 9:20 PM, T. Civitello <tcivi31@...> wrote:

       
Using Windows 10 and Jaws 19. How do I set a shortcut key for Jaws 19. I can’t seem to locate the properties setting for Jaws. Thanks, Tom   


locked Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

David & his pack of dogs
 

Message received and that's no assumption. LOL.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of T. Civitello
Sent: November 4, 2018 12:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

I am making an assumption: Messages that I send to the list do not come back to me so I assume they are not making it to the list. If this is not true, and this makes it to the list would someone please let me know.
Thanks Tom
-----Original Message-----
From: Don H
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 12:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

At least in my city once a recycle bin is placed at the curb for city collection it belongs to the city. It is against the law for anyone to pick through them.

On 11/4/2018 2:01 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Hi David,

If I put my pop cans or anything which I can collect money on if I
bring it to the recycling centre into my recycling bin which is picked
up and where I get nothing for it then it is not steeling if somebody
picks out said pop cans. It is no different than if I threw the cans
into the trash and somebody came by to pick them out (essentially
dumpster diving). If I collect my cans in my carport in a bin so I can
take them to the recycling centre once a month and somebody comes on
my property and goes under my carport to grab those cans then that is
steeling and, of course, trespassing.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David & his
pack of dogs
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 8:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

I found the message James was referring too. When my brother lived
with us before I got married, I would get reports of him going into
people's recycling box that they had put out on the curb to be picked
up by the municipality and taking out the empty pop cans or beer cans
. Then he would take them to a store and cash them in for money.
This is how he would supplement his income. To me this is steeling.
Now, having said this, we run dogs on a trail and frequently find the same things, empties.
We cash them in, however, to us it is just cleaning up the environment.
Especially when the amount we cashed in could not even pay for a 32 G,
SD card. There was someone that would go to beaches on weekends and
clean them up. She made enough money doing this each year that she
could go to Hawaii every year.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James
Lockwood
Sent: November 3, 2018 8:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

Dumpster diving? I find that offensive. If you recommend blind people
go dumpster diving then you are an idiot. And I don’t care if your
offended by that. Deal with it.

On Nov 3, 2018, at 10:02 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <@Sieghard> wrote:

Dumster diving? Is this your sense of humour or are you actually serious?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Peter
Donahue
Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2018 6:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Don't Make Assumptions!

Hello again everyone,

Truthfully we've suggested a number of different ideas to
different blind individuals for generating needed income to cover the
cost of technologhy. Some of these included dumpster diving,becoming
certified Braille transcribers and proofreaders along with other
ideas. Before writing this note I sent a message to an old
schoolfriend of mine who has written a number of books one of which is
in audio format. He said that his audio version sold out and he no
longer had copies on CD but could provide them in MP3 format. I
suggested making his book available through Audible allowing many
others to buy it in an audio format and adding an additional source of
passive income to his portfolio. That has as much to do with network marketing as this list! All the best.

Peter Donahue


















Jaws 19 shortcut key and Windows 10

T. Civitello
 

       
Using Windows 10 and Jaws 19. How do I set a shortcut key for Jaws 19. I can’t seem to locate the properties setting for Jaws. Thanks, Tom   


locked Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

T. Civitello
 

I am making an assumption: Messages that I send to the list do not come back to me so I assume they are not making it to the list. If this is not true, and this makes it to the list would someone please let me know. Thanks Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: Don H
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 12:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

At least in my city once a recycle bin is placed at the curb for city
collection it belongs to the city. It is against the law for anyone to
pick through them.

On 11/4/2018 2:01 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Hi David,

If I put my pop cans or anything which I can collect money on if I bring it to the recycling centre into my recycling bin which is picked up and where I get nothing for it then it is not steeling if somebody picks out said pop cans. It is no different than if I threw the cans into the trash and somebody came by to pick them out (essentially dumpster diving). If I collect my cans in my carport in a bin so I can take them to the recycling centre once a month and somebody comes on my property and goes under my carport to grab those cans then that is steeling and, of course, trespassing.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David & his pack of dogs
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 8:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

I found the message James was referring too. When my brother lived with us before I got married, I would get reports of him going into people's recycling box that they had put out on the curb to be picked up by the municipality and taking out the empty pop cans or beer cans . Then he would take them to a store and cash them in for money. This is how he would supplement his income. To me this is steeling. Now, having said this, we run dogs on a trail and frequently find the same things, empties. We cash them in, however, to us it is just cleaning up the environment. Especially when the amount we cashed in could not even pay for a 32 G, SD card. There was someone that would go to beaches on weekends and clean them up. She made enough money doing this each year that she could go to Hawaii every year.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Lockwood
Sent: November 3, 2018 8:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

Dumpster diving? I find that offensive. If you recommend blind people go dumpster diving then you are an idiot. And I don’t care if your offended by that. Deal with it.

On Nov 3, 2018, at 10:02 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <@Sieghard> wrote:

Dumster diving? Is this your sense of humour or are you actually serious?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Peter Donahue
Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2018 6:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Don't Make Assumptions!

Hello again everyone,

Truthfully we've suggested a number of different ideas to different blind individuals for generating needed income to cover the cost of technologhy. Some of these included dumpster diving,becoming certified Braille transcribers and proofreaders along with other ideas. Before writing this note I sent a message to an old schoolfriend of mine who has written a number of books one of which is in audio format. He said that his audio version sold out and he no longer had copies on CD but could provide them in MP3 format. I suggested making his book available through Audible allowing many others to buy it in an audio format and adding an additional source of passive income to his portfolio. That has as much to do with network marketing as this list! All the best.

Peter Donahue


















locked Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

Larry Wayland
 

I don't think anyone is saying that. Dumpster diving doesn't necessarily mean hiding behind a restaurant waiting for a pizza to be thrown out. I have talked to a person who had normal sight and a good job who would go through dumpsters in industrial parks looking for discarded items. Now my understanding is companies don't throw away normal trash. This guy, and people doing the same thing, look for quite valuable items such as electronics, book shelves, tables. He told me that a lot of these items need little or no repair. He told me you would be surprised what these companies would throw away. He told me that one time he had found a set of track lights that he sold for over a thousand dollars. Now Ipersonally don't intend to go out and partisapate in this activety, but if there are people who do then more power to them. Maybe it is kind like a hobby or something. It would be fun to do research on this activety and see just what a person could do though.
Larry

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Lockwood
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 2:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

I refuse to believe because a person is blind it means they have to dig through dumpsters in order to make a living. It’s called having dignity

On Nov 4, 2018, at 3:01 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <@Sieghard> wrote:

Hi David,

If I put my pop cans or anything which I can collect money on if I bring it to the recycling centre into my recycling bin which is picked up and where I get nothing for it then it is not steeling if somebody picks out said pop cans. It is no different than if I threw the cans into the trash and somebody came by to pick them out (essentially dumpster diving). If I collect my cans in my carport in a bin so I can take them to the recycling centre once a month and somebody comes on my property and goes under my carport to grab those cans then that is steeling and, of course, trespassing.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David & his pack of dogs
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 8:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

I found the message James was referring too. When my brother lived with us before I got married, I would get reports of him going into people's recycling box that they had put out on the curb to be picked up by the municipality and taking out the empty pop cans or beer cans . Then he would take them to a store and cash them in for money. This is how he would supplement his income. To me this is steeling. Now, having said this, we run dogs on a trail and frequently find the same things, empties. We cash them in, however, to us it is just cleaning up the environment. Especially when the amount we cashed in could not even pay for a 32 G, SD card. There was someone that would go to beaches on weekends and clean them up. She made enough money doing this each year that she could go to Hawaii every year.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Lockwood
Sent: November 3, 2018 8:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

Dumpster diving? I find that offensive. If you recommend blind people go dumpster diving then you are an idiot. And I don’t care if your offended by that. Deal with it.

On Nov 3, 2018, at 10:02 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <@Sieghard> wrote:

Dumster diving? Is this your sense of humour or are you actually serious?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Peter Donahue
Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2018 6:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Don't Make Assumptions!

Hello again everyone,

Truthfully we've suggested a number of different ideas to different blind individuals for generating needed income to cover the cost of technologhy Some of these included dumpster diving,becoming certified Braille transcribers and proofreaders along with other ideas. Before writing this note I sent a message to an old schoolfriend of mine who has written a number of books one of which is in audio format. He said that his audio version sold out and he no longer had copies on CD but could provide them in MP3 format. I suggested making his book available through Audible allowing many others to buy it in an audio format and adding an additional source of passive income to his portfolio. That has as much to do with network marketing as this list! All the best.

Peter Donahue


locked Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

Larry Wayland
 

It is not against the law to take things out of trash containers that are out on the curb to be picked up by the city. Detectives often take items out of trash containers without a warrant to be used for evidence. That is one of the ways police were able to catch the Golden State murderer. They got his DNA off a cup he had used. If it was against the law they would have not been able to do this without a warrant.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Angel
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 4:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

When one talks of dignity. Sighted people who are forced, through
circumstances, to go to charitable organizations to keep water on, as was my
son, shouldn't be told, as was my son: "If you paid your bill, you wouldn't
be here." He was told that by a person who worked for the charity. Who
wouldn't have told a blind person the same thing. I will bet. As for
picking things from trash cans. If those who threw out such wanted to keep
what they threw out, they wouldn't have thrown it out in the first place.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cristóbal" <cristobalmuli@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!


This is absurd. I'm not going to waste my time fretting over what addiction
someone who is going through my trash when I'm dead asleep may or may not
have. They can just as easily simply be trying to get enough funds together
to keep their light or heat on. You or I are not going to know whether or
not either scenario is true. I’m much less going to chaperone a homeless
person to place X, Y or Z to make sure they don't spend the whole two
dollars I just gave them unwisely.
Seriously, what are we talking about here?

Cristóbal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David & his pack
of dogs
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 12:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

The only flaw in all of this is, often people that go through dumpsters have
addiction issues and the money they collect goes to feed their habit. Ever
offer a street person a meal? Some accept it, of course you have to go with
them to make sure they don't go into the local liquor store. Some don't.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: November 4, 2018 11:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

The wife and I go to our local recycler maybe three or four times a year and
drop off what we've accumulated. Bottles, cans, glass, cardboard, etc.
Depending on how much we pile into the SUV, we may get anywhere from $25 to
$40 each time. Not going to be buying Jaws or a Braille display with that.
We don't do it necessarily because of the money, but to try to be
responsible citizens per say. We'll usually go out and grab lunch or
whatever after with our reimbursed wealth. That said, this past year has
been even less since we got a Soda Stream last year and have really cut back
on buying things like mineral and regular bottled water.
There's a guy and his wife who come around the neighborhood Sunday nights
and goes through the trash bins. Generally, people don't mind as long as
they don't make a mess of things. We'll sometimes leave out odd ball stuff
like things that can be turned in for scrap or e-waste or just stuff that
we're not going to deal with and they'll take it. We certainly don't think
it's steeling. I mean, everyone's just trying to make their way in life and
it's not like "dumpster diving" is going to be anyone's first choice.
But to suggest that a blind person pursue this as an avenue for some sort of
revenue stream is ridiculous on its face. Seriously, come on. Get real.

Cristóbal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Angel
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 10:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

Heavens, my sighted daughter saves her cans and such. Giving them to her
sighted friend for recycling. For which her sighted friend receives
monetary compensation. Why condemn a thing which goes on all the time, I
ask? When last I moved, my son got our boxes from stores which threw the
ones they had no need for away. From wherever was their trash containers.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David & his pack of dogs " <myguidedogis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!


I found the message James was referring too. When my brother lived with us
before I got married, I would get reports of him going into people's
recycling box that they had put out on the curb to be picked up by the
municipality and taking out the empty pop cans or beer cans . Then he would
take them to a store and cash them in for money. This is how he would
supplement his income. To me this is steeling. Now, having said this, we
run dogs on a trail and frequently find the same things, empties. We cash
them in, however, to us it is just cleaning up the environment. Especially
when the amount we cashed in could not even pay for a 32 G, SD card. There
was someone that would go to beaches on weekends and clean them up. She
made enough money doing this each year that she could go to Hawaii every
year.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Lockwood
Sent: November 3, 2018 8:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

Dumpster diving? I find that offensive. If you recommend blind people go
dumpster diving then you are an idiot. And I don’t care if your offended by
that. Deal with it.

On Nov 3, 2018, at 10:02 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <@Sieghard> wrote:

Dumster diving? Is this your sense of humour or are you actually serious?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Peter Donahue
Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2018 6:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Don't Make Assumptions!

Hello again everyone,

Truthfully we've suggested a number of different ideas to different blind
individuals for generating needed income to cover the cost of technologhy.
Some of these included dumpster diving,becoming certified Braille
transcribers and proofreaders along with other ideas. Before writing this
note I sent a message to an old schoolfriend of mine who has written a
number of books one of which is in audio format. He said that his audio
version sold out and he no longer had copies on CD but could provide them in
MP3 format. I suggested making his book available through Audible allowing
many others to buy it in an audio format and adding an additional source of
passive income to his portfolio. That has as much to do with network
marketing as this list! All the best.

Peter Donahue


locked Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

Larry Wayland
 

Be careful! That is the truth.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David & his pack of dogs
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 2:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

No speaking from personal experience. Sorry to burst your bubble. Often we have seen the same people at social services asking for more money or see them get money from people then promptly go into the liquor store. This is, as mentioned not everyone. Just one has to be careful.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luis Difut
Sent: November 4, 2018 12:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

Stereo typing much do you?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David & his pack of dogs
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 3:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

The only flaw in all of this is, often people that go through dumpsters have addiction issues and the money they collect goes to feed their habit. Ever offer a street person a meal? Some accept it, of course you have to go with them to make sure they don't go into the local liquor store. Some don't.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: November 4, 2018 11:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

The wife and I go to our local recycler maybe three or four times a year and drop off what we've accumulated. Bottles, cans, glass, cardboard, etc. Depending on how much we pile into the SUV, we may get anywhere from $25 to $40 each time. Not going to be buying Jaws or a Braille display with that.
We don't do it necessarily because of the money, but to try to be responsible citizens per say. We'll usually go out and grab lunch or whatever after with our reimbursed wealth. That said, this past year has been even less since we got a Soda Stream last year and have really cut back on buying things like mineral and regular bottled water.
There's a guy and his wife who come around the neighborhood Sunday nights and goes through the trash bins. Generally, people don't mind as long as they don't make a mess of things. We'll sometimes leave out odd ball stuff like things that can be turned in for scrap or e-waste or just stuff that we're not going to deal with and they'll take it. We certainly don't think it's steeling. I mean, everyone's just trying to make their way in life and it's not like "dumpster diving" is going to be anyone's first choice.
But to suggest that a blind person pursue this as an avenue for some sort of revenue stream is ridiculous on its face. Seriously, come on. Get real.

Cristóbal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Angel
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 10:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

Heavens, my sighted daughter saves her cans and such. Giving them to her sighted friend for recycling. For which her sighted friend receives monetary compensation. Why condemn a thing which goes on all the time, I ask? When last I moved, my son got our boxes from stores which threw the ones they had no need for away. From wherever was their trash containers.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David & his pack of dogs " <myguidedogis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!


I found the message James was referring too. When my brother lived with us before I got married, I would get reports of him going into people's recycling box that they had put out on the curb to be picked up by the municipality and taking out the empty pop cans or beer cans . Then he would take them to a store and cash them in for money. This is how he would supplement his income. To me this is steeling. Now, having said this, we run dogs on a trail and frequently find the same things, empties. We cash them in, however, to us it is just cleaning up the environment. Especially when the amount we cashed in could not even pay for a 32 G, SD card. There was someone that would go to beaches on weekends and clean them up. She made enough money doing this each year that she could go to Hawaii every year.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Lockwood
Sent: November 3, 2018 8:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

Dumpster diving? I find that offensive. If you recommend blind people go dumpster diving then you are an idiot. And I don’t care if your offended by that. Deal with it.

On Nov 3, 2018, at 10:02 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <@Sieghard> wrote:

Dumster diving? Is this your sense of humour or are you actually serious?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Peter Donahue
Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2018 6:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Don't Make Assumptions!

Hello again everyone,

Truthfully we've suggested a number of different ideas to different blind individuals for generating needed income to cover the cost of technologhy.
Some of these included dumpster diving,becoming certified Braille transcribers and proofreaders along with other ideas. Before writing this note I sent a message to an old schoolfriend of mine who has written a number of books one of which is in audio format. He said that his audio version sold out and he no longer had copies on CD but could provide them in
MP3 format. I suggested making his book available through Audible allowing many others to buy it in an audio format and adding an additional source of passive income to his portfolio. That has as much to do with network marketing as this list! All the best.

Peter Donahue


locked Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

David & his pack of dogs
 

It was off a guide dog list based in the U S. It was a GS. They were upset that the dog was shot. I told them when you see a dog charging towards you, you have a split second to decide if it will attack you or not. Some are not as good at assessing dogs as they should be. A GS that I trained to be a guide dog looked menacing at 80 pounds, don't know what that converts too in kilograms. I just know some were afraid of her based on her size and when she ran playfully, if you did not know it, you could misjudge her actions.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: November 4, 2018 6:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

David, where was a guide dog shot by police, I read the news pretty regularly and certainly never heard of such a story here in Canada.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David & his pack of dogs
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 5:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

My wife told me of a story about a teenager who deliberately let his ball run into someone's yard so he could look in there house. As for the Pit Bull story, it was just protecting its territory. A while back a guide dog was shot by the police because they came on the property and the dog ran towards them, playfully I'm sure. However, on a list there was a big hue and cry over shooting a guide dog. Since my job is dealing with aggressive dogs, I mentioned you have to quickly assess the situation as to why the dog is running towards you. Happy or "GET OFF my property. Yes, I have dealt with Pit Bulls numerous times and a person asked me why I was not terrified when his dog ran towards me, "People are terrified when they see my Pit Bull." He said. I said, "He was just coming to say "Hello, nothing else." Since I have a vision problem, I could not see his JAWS. LOL.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: November 4, 2018 3:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

Well, he may have been a burglar, but while I love dogs I have little use for dogs who are this aggressive, what if it were a bunch of silly teenagers or a kid whose ball had accidently landed in the yard with the dog.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 3:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

My aunt and uncle have always been pit bull owners. Years ago, there was a burglar fence hopping trying to get away from the cops. He made the mistake of jumping their fence.
The dog tore him up bad. He sued my aunt and uncle and while they beat whatever suit, they ended up having to keep the dog penned behind a gate on the side of the house.

Cristóbal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 2:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

Correct, but in today world next thing somebody is suing the supermarket because they picked something out of the dumpster and got sick because it was no longer good to eat or they injured themselves climbing into the dumpster.
There have been cases where somebody broke into a house or business and got injured and they ended up going to court and winning, I mean what the heck.

.

s

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Angel
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 2:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!


That is why people can no longer take thrown out food from stores in my area. The food dumpsters are now made tamper proof. Which, is sort of sad.
Because, not all food which stores throw out is non eatable.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David & his pack of dogs " <myguidedogis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!


When needing boxes for packing we always ask. Technically I would think taking them out of the store dumpster is steeling because you are on private property.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Angel
Sent: November 4, 2018 10:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

Heavens, my sighted daughter saves her cans and such. Giving them to her sighted friend for recycling. For which her sighted friend receives monetary compensation. Why condemn a thing which goes on all the time, I ask? When last I moved, my son got our boxes from stores which threw the ones they had no need for away. From wherever was their trash containers.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David & his pack of dogs " <myguidedogis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!


I found the message James was referring too. When my brother lived with us before I got married, I would get reports of him going into people's recycling box that they had put out on the curb to be picked up by the municipality and taking out the empty pop cans or beer cans . Then he would take them to a store and cash them in for money. This is how he would supplement his income. To me this is steeling. Now, having said this, we run dogs on a trail and frequently find the same things, empties. We cash them in, however, to us it is just cleaning up the environment. Especially when the amount we cashed in could not even pay for a 32 G, SD card. There was someone that would go to beaches on weekends and clean them up. She made enough money doing this each year that she could go to Hawaii every year.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Lockwood
Sent: November 3, 2018 8:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

Dumpster diving? I find that offensive. If you recommend blind people go dumpster diving then you are an idiot. And I don’t care if your offended by that. Deal with it.

On Nov 3, 2018, at 10:02 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <@Sieghard> wrote:

Dumpster diving? Is this your sense of humor or are you actually serious?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Peter Donahue
Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2018 6:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Don't Make Assumptions!

Hello again everyone,

Truthfully we've suggested a number of different ideas to different blind individuals for generating needed income to cover the cost of technology.
Some of these included dumpster diving, becoming certified Braille transcribers and proofreaders along with other ideas. Before writing this note I sent a message to an old schoolfriend of mine who has written a number of books one of which is in audio format. He said that his audio version sold out and he no longer had copies on CD but could provide them in
MP3 format. I suggested making his book available through Audible allowing many others to buy it in an audio format and adding an additional source of passive income to his portfolio. That has as much to do with network marketing as this list! All the best.

Peter Donahue


Re: How to create shortcut to desktop?

 

That is why I asked which application you are trying to do this for. Anyways Bill already provided instructions on how to do this for Windows 10 Apps.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gezim Rexha
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 3:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to create shortcut to desktop?

 

Yes, I meant creating a programme shortcut to desktop. Following your instructions, I found one of the programmes, but Shift+ F10 menue did not contain ‘send to Desktop’, copy, or anyghing like that.

 

Gezim

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, November 5, 2018 12:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to create shortcut to desktop?

 

I think he (or she) means to put a shortcut to a program on the desktop.

My question would first be which program, is it a regular desktop application or is it a Windows 10 app?

If it's just a program like Word, Excel or iTunes then just find it in your start menu or press the Windows key and type the name until it pops up, then press Shift+F10 and arrow down the menu options to "Open file Location" and press enter. This will put you directly either onto the application's shortcut or the actual executable. You could check, if it is already a shortcut you could just copy it, o to the desktop with Windows Key+M and then paste it. Whether it's a shortcut or an executable file you could also press Shift+F10 aain and arrow to "Send To", then expand with the right arrow and down arrow to "Desktop (Create Shortcut).".

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 3:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to create shortcut to desktop?

 

 

Are you talking about just getting to the desktop from anywhere? If so, hit the Windows key plus d.

If you meant something else, please say more.

Richard

 

 

"It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good books which are your very own." __  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle 


On Nov 4, 2018, at 3:16 PM, Gezim Rexha <gezim_rexha@...> wrote:

Hi List,

 

I would appreciate if you could instruct me how to create a programme shortcut to desktop.

 

I am using Windows 10 and JAWS 2018.

 

Cheers,

Gezim


locked Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

 

David, where was a guide dog shot by police, I read the news pretty regularly and certainly never heard of such a story here in Canada.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David & his pack of dogs
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 5:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

My wife told me of a story about a teenager who deliberately let his ball run into someone's yard so he could look in there house. As for the Pit Bull story, it was just protecting its territory. A while back a guide dog was shot by the police because they came on the property and the dog ran towards them, playfully I'm sure. However, on a list there was a big hue and cry over shooting a guide dog. Since my job is dealing with aggressive dogs, I mentioned you have to quickly assess the situation as to why the dog is running towards you. Happy or "GET OFF my property. Yes, I have dealt with Pit Bulls numerous times and a person asked me why I was not terrified when his dog ran towards me, "People are terrified when they see my Pit Bull." He said. I said, "He was just coming to say "Hello, nothing else." Since I have a vision problem, I could not see his JAWS. LOL.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: November 4, 2018 3:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

Well, he may have been a burglar, but while I love dogs I have little use for dogs who are this aggressive, what if it were a bunch of silly teenagers or a kid whose ball had accidently landed in the yard with the dog.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 3:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

My aunt and uncle have always been pit bull owners. Years ago, there was a burglar fence hopping trying to get away from the cops. He made the mistake of jumping their fence.
The dog tore him up bad. He sued my aunt and uncle and while they beat whatever suit, they ended up having to keep the dog penned behind a gate on the side of the house.

Cristóbal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 2:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

Correct, but in today world next thing somebody is suing the supermarket because they picked something out of the dumpster and got sick because it was no longer good to eat or they injured themselves climbing into the dumpster.
There have been cases where somebody broke into a house or business and got injured and they ended up going to court and winning, I mean what the heck.

.

s

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Angel
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 2:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!


That is why people can no longer take thrown out food from stores in my area. The food dumpsters are now made tamper proof. Which, is sort of sad.
Because, not all food which stores throw out is non eatable.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David & his pack of dogs " <myguidedogis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!


When needing boxes for packing we always ask. Technically I would think taking them out of the store dumpster is steeling because you are on private property.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Angel
Sent: November 4, 2018 10:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

Heavens, my sighted daughter saves her cans and such. Giving them to her sighted friend for recycling. For which her sighted friend receives monetary compensation. Why condemn a thing which goes on all the time, I ask? When last I moved, my son got our boxes from stores which threw the ones they had no need for away. From wherever was their trash containers.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David & his pack of dogs " <myguidedogis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!


I found the message James was referring too. When my brother lived with us before I got married, I would get reports of him going into people's recycling box that they had put out on the curb to be picked up by the municipality and taking out the empty pop cans or beer cans . Then he would take them to a store and cash them in for money. This is how he would supplement his income. To me this is steeling. Now, having said this, we run dogs on a trail and frequently find the same things, empties. We cash them in, however, to us it is just cleaning up the environment. Especially when the amount we cashed in could not even pay for a 32 G, SD card. There was someone that would go to beaches on weekends and clean them up. She made enough money doing this each year that she could go to Hawaii every year.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Lockwood
Sent: November 3, 2018 8:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

Dumpster diving? I find that offensive. If you recommend blind people go dumpster diving then you are an idiot. And I don’t care if your offended by that. Deal with it.

On Nov 3, 2018, at 10:02 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <@Sieghard> wrote:

Dumpster diving? Is this your sense of humor or are you actually serious?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Peter Donahue
Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2018 6:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Don't Make Assumptions!

Hello again everyone,

Truthfully we've suggested a number of different ideas to different blind individuals for generating needed income to cover the cost of technology.
Some of these included dumpster diving, becoming certified Braille transcribers and proofreaders along with other ideas. Before writing this note I sent a message to an old schoolfriend of mine who has written a number of books one of which is in audio format. He said that his audio version sold out and he no longer had copies on CD but could provide them in
MP3 format. I suggested making his book available through Audible allowing many others to buy it in an audio format and adding an additional source of passive income to his portfolio. That has as much to do with network marketing as this list! All the best.

Peter Donahue


locked Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

David & his pack of dogs
 

In our area stores and lunch-ins give to the local food bank. The stores, often the food is dated for that day so, one wonders are they donating it because of a charity receipt or out of kindness. The lunches, well often the Cancer society or other places have dinners or lunches and not all the food is eaten. Thus they donate to the food bank. I know this because we have gone to the food bank frequently. The food is good and they do not mind at all if you give a donation. Locking the dumpsters? Sadly, some have climbed into them to keep warm and have been killed because the dumpster gets picked up by the agency hired to dispose of the garbage and the person inside, unbeknown to the driver gets crushed. Thus, the dumpster has to be locked. Apparently in Argentina restaurants frequently leave food outside for those who cannot afford it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Angel
Sent: November 4, 2018 2:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!


That is why people can no longer take thrown out food from stores in my area. The food dumsters are now made tamper proof. Which, is sort of sad.
Because, not all food which stores throw out is non eatable.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David & his pack of dogs " <myguidedogis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!


When needing boxes for packing we always ask. Technically I would think taking them out of the store dumpster is steeling because you are on private property.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Angel
Sent: November 4, 2018 10:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

Heavens, my sighted daughter saves her cans and such. Giving them to her sighted friend for recycling. For which her sighted friend receives monetary compensation. Why condemn a thing which goes on all the time, I ask? When last I moved, my son got our boxes from stores which threw the ones they had no need for away. From wherever was their trash containers.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David & his pack of dogs " <myguidedogis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!


I found the message James was referring too. When my brother lived with us before I got married, I would get reports of him going into people's recycling box that they had put out on the curb to be picked up by the municipality and taking out the empty pop cans or beer cans . Then he would take them to a store and cash them in for money. This is how he would supplement his income. To me this is steeling. Now, having said this, we run dogs on a trail and frequently find the same things, empties. We cash them in, however, to us it is just cleaning up the environment. Especially when the amount we cashed in could not even pay for a 32 G, SD card. There was someone that would go to beaches on weekends and clean them up. She made enough money doing this each year that she could go to Hawaii every year.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Lockwood
Sent: November 3, 2018 8:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

Dumpster diving? I find that offensive. If you recommend blind people go dumpster diving then you are an idiot. And I don’t care if your offended by that. Deal with it.

On Nov 3, 2018, at 10:02 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <@Sieghard> wrote:

Dumster diving? Is this your sense of humour or are you actually serious?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Peter Donahue
Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2018 6:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Don't Make Assumptions!

Hello again everyone,

Truthfully we've suggested a number of different ideas to different blind individuals for generating needed income to cover the cost of technologhy.
Some of these included dumpster diving,becoming certified Braille transcribers and proofreaders along with other ideas. Before writing this note I sent a message to an old schoolfriend of mine who has written a number of books one of which is in audio format. He said that his audio version sold out and he no longer had copies on CD but could provide them in
MP3 format. I suggested making his book available through Audible allowing many others to buy it in an audio format and adding an additional source of passive income to his portfolio. That has as much to do with network marketing as this list! All the best.

Peter Donahue


locked Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

David & his pack of dogs
 

Who wouldn't have told a blind person the same thing. I will bet. Who knows. What I can tell you is, when I went into Social services to make an inquiry I was told to stop living the high life and live within my means. I think I have already posted my response. Some workers make it a habit of stopping in at Star Bucks before work to get their morning coffee and, they have the nerve to tell me to stop living the high life. It's been years since I've been in a Star Bucks' Even then, someone was paying for my coffee or, I had a coupon for a free light roast coffee.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Angel
Sent: November 4, 2018 2:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

When one talks of dignity. Sighted people who are forced, through circumstances, to go to charitable organizations to keep water on, as was my son, shouldn't be told, as was my son: "If you paid your bill, you wouldn't be here." He was told that by a person who worked for the charity. Who wouldn't have told a blind person the same thing. I will bet. As for picking things from trash cans. If those who threw out such wanted to keep what they threw out, they wouldn't have thrown it out in the first place.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cristóbal" <cristobalmuli@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!


This is absurd. I'm not going to waste my time fretting over what addiction someone who is going through my trash when I'm dead asleep may or may not have. They can just as easily simply be trying to get enough funds together to keep their light or heat on. You or I are not going to know whether or not either scenario is true. I’m much less going to chaperone a homeless person to place X, Y or Z to make sure they don't spend the whole two dollars I just gave them unwisely.
Seriously, what are we talking about here?

Cristóbal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David & his pack of dogs
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 12:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

The only flaw in all of this is, often people that go through dumpsters have addiction issues and the money they collect goes to feed their habit. Ever offer a street person a meal? Some accept it, of course you have to go with them to make sure they don't go into the local liquor store. Some don't.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: November 4, 2018 11:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

The wife and I go to our local recycler maybe three or four times a year and drop off what we've accumulated. Bottles, cans, glass, cardboard, etc.
Depending on how much we pile into the SUV, we may get anywhere from $25 to
$40 each time. Not going to be buying Jaws or a Braille display with that.
We don't do it necessarily because of the money, but to try to be responsible citizens per say. We'll usually go out and grab lunch or whatever after with our reimbursed wealth. That said, this past year has been even less since we got a Soda Stream last year and have really cut back on buying things like mineral and regular bottled water.
There's a guy and his wife who come around the neighborhood Sunday nights and goes through the trash bins. Generally, people don't mind as long as they don't make a mess of things. We'll sometimes leave out odd ball stuff like things that can be turned in for scrap or e-waste or just stuff that we're not going to deal with and they'll take it. We certainly don't think it's steeling. I mean, everyone's just trying to make their way in life and it's not like "dumpster diving" is going to be anyone's first choice.
But to suggest that a blind person pursue this as an avenue for some sort of revenue stream is ridiculous on its face. Seriously, come on. Get real.

Cristóbal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Angel
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 10:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

Heavens, my sighted daughter saves her cans and such. Giving them to her sighted friend for recycling. For which her sighted friend receives monetary compensation. Why condemn a thing which goes on all the time, I ask? When last I moved, my son got our boxes from stores which threw the ones they had no need for away. From wherever was their trash containers.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David & his pack of dogs " <myguidedogis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!


I found the message James was referring too. When my brother lived with us before I got married, I would get reports of him going into people's recycling box that they had put out on the curb to be picked up by the municipality and taking out the empty pop cans or beer cans . Then he would take them to a store and cash them in for money. This is how he would supplement his income. To me this is steeling. Now, having said this, we run dogs on a trail and frequently find the same things, empties. We cash them in, however, to us it is just cleaning up the environment. Especially when the amount we cashed in could not even pay for a 32 G, SD card. There was someone that would go to beaches on weekends and clean them up. She made enough money doing this each year that she could go to Hawaii every year.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Lockwood
Sent: November 3, 2018 8:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

Dumpster diving? I find that offensive. If you recommend blind people go dumpster diving then you are an idiot. And I don’t care if your offended by that. Deal with it.

On Nov 3, 2018, at 10:02 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <@Sieghard> wrote:

Dumster diving? Is this your sense of humour or are you actually serious?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Peter Donahue
Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2018 6:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Don't Make Assumptions!

Hello again everyone,

Truthfully we've suggested a number of different ideas to different blind individuals for generating needed income to cover the cost of technologhy.
Some of these included dumpster diving,becoming certified Braille transcribers and proofreaders along with other ideas. Before writing this note I sent a message to an old schoolfriend of mine who has written a number of books one of which is in audio format. He said that his audio version sold out and he no longer had copies on CD but could provide them in
MP3 format. I suggested making his book available through Audible allowing many others to buy it in an audio format and adding an additional source of passive income to his portfolio. That has as much to do with network marketing as this list! All the best.

Peter Donahue


locked Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

David & his pack of dogs
 

My wife told me of a story about a teenager who deliberately let his ball run into someone's yard so he could look in there house. As for the Pit Bull story, it was just protecting its territory. A while back a guide dog was shot by the police because they came on the property and the dog ran towards them, playfully I'm sure. However, on a list there was a big hue and cry over shooting a guide dog. Since my job is dealing with aggressive dogs, I mentioned you have to quickly assess the situation as to why the dog is running towards you. Happy or "GET OFF my property. Yes, I have dealt with Pit Bulls numerous times and a person asked me why I was not terrified when his dog ran towards me, "People are terrified when they see my Pit Bull." He said. I said, "He was just coming to say "Hello, nothing else." Since I have a vision problem, I could not see his JAWS. LOL.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: November 4, 2018 3:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

Well, he may have been a burglar, but while I love dogs I have little use for dogs who are this aggressive, what if it were a bunch of silly teenagers or a kid whose ball had accidently landed in the yard with the dog.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 3:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

My aunt and uncle have always been pit bull owners. Years ago, there was a burglar fence hopping trying to get away from the cops. He made the mistake of jumping their fence.
The dog tore him up bad. He sued my aunt and uncle and while they beat whatever suit, they ended up having to keep the dog penned behind a gate on the side of the house.

Cristóbal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 2:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

Correct, but in today world next thing somebody is suing the supermarket because they picked something out of the dumpster and got sick because it was no longer good to eat or they injured themselves climbing into the dumpster.
There have been cases where somebody broke into a house or business and got injured and they ended up going to court and winning, I mean what the heck.

.

s

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Angel
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 2:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!


That is why people can no longer take thrown out food from stores in my area. The food dumpsters are now made tamper proof. Which, is sort of sad.
Because, not all food which stores throw out is non eatable.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David & his pack of dogs " <myguidedogis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!


When needing boxes for packing we always ask. Technically I would think taking them out of the store dumpster is steeling because you are on private property.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Angel
Sent: November 4, 2018 10:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

Heavens, my sighted daughter saves her cans and such. Giving them to her sighted friend for recycling. For which her sighted friend receives monetary compensation. Why condemn a thing which goes on all the time, I ask? When last I moved, my son got our boxes from stores which threw the ones they had no need for away. From wherever was their trash containers.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David & his pack of dogs " <myguidedogis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!


I found the message James was referring too. When my brother lived with us before I got married, I would get reports of him going into people's recycling box that they had put out on the curb to be picked up by the municipality and taking out the empty pop cans or beer cans . Then he would take them to a store and cash them in for money. This is how he would supplement his income. To me this is steeling. Now, having said this, we run dogs on a trail and frequently find the same things, empties. We cash them in, however, to us it is just cleaning up the environment. Especially when the amount we cashed in could not even pay for a 32 G, SD card. There was someone that would go to beaches on weekends and clean them up. She made enough money doing this each year that she could go to Hawaii every year.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Lockwood
Sent: November 3, 2018 8:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Don't Make Assumptions!

Dumpster diving? I find that offensive. If you recommend blind people go dumpster diving then you are an idiot. And I don’t care if your offended by that. Deal with it.

On Nov 3, 2018, at 10:02 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <@Sieghard> wrote:

Dumpster diving? Is this your sense of humor or are you actually serious?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Peter Donahue
Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2018 6:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Don't Make Assumptions!

Hello again everyone,

Truthfully we've suggested a number of different ideas to different blind individuals for generating needed income to cover the cost of technology.
Some of these included dumpster diving, becoming certified Braille transcribers and proofreaders along with other ideas. Before writing this note I sent a message to an old schoolfriend of mine who has written a number of books one of which is in audio format. He said that his audio version sold out and he no longer had copies on CD but could provide them in
MP3 format. I suggested making his book available through Audible allowing many others to buy it in an audio format and adding an additional source of passive income to his portfolio. That has as much to do with network marketing as this list! All the best.

Peter Donahue


Re: How to create shortcut to desktop?

Bill White
 

Yes, those instructions won’t work for Windows 10. Instead,

 

1. Press the Windows key plus R for the “Run” dialog.

2. Type:

 

shell:AppsFolder

 

into the Run dialog, and press ENTER.

 

3. Use first-letter navigation to find the app you’re looking for, or use left and right arrows to arrow through the programs until you find the one you want.

 

4. Press the Applications key, or SHIFT plus F10 to bring up the context menu.

5. Arrow down to “Create Shortcut, and press ENTER.

 

Now you will find a shortcut for the app you want on the desktop.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gezim Rexha
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 3:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to create shortcut to desktop?

 

Yes, I meant creating a programme shortcut to desktop. Following your instructions, I found one of the programmes, but Shift+ F10 menue did not contain ‘send to Desktop’, copy, or anyghing like that.

 

Gezim

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, November 5, 2018 12:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to create shortcut to desktop?

 

I think he (or she) means to put a shortcut to a program on the desktop.

My question would first be which program, is it a regular desktop application or is it a Windows 10 app?

If it's just a program like Word, Excel or iTunes then just find it in your start menu or press the Windows key and type the name until it pops up, then press Shift+F10 and arrow down the menu options to "Open file Location" and press enter. This will put you directly either onto the application's shortcut or the actual executable. You could check, if it is already a shortcut you could just copy it, o to the desktop with Windows Key+M and then paste it. Whether it's a shortcut or an executable file you could also press Shift+F10 aain and arrow to "Send To", then expand with the right arrow and down arrow to "Desktop (Create Shortcut).".

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 3:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to create shortcut to desktop?

 

 

Are you talking about just getting to the desktop from anywhere? If so, hit the Windows key plus d.

If you meant something else, please say more.

Richard

 

 

"It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good books which are your very own." __  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle 


On Nov 4, 2018, at 3:16 PM, Gezim Rexha <gezim_rexha@...> wrote:

Hi List,

 

I would appreciate if you could instruct me how to create a programme shortcut to desktop.

 

I am using Windows 10 and JAWS 2018.

 

Cheers,

Gezim