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Re: Apps alternative combo

Mario
 

generally, the app or application key is to the left of the right
control key on a desktop keyboard. a laptop's keyboard may or not
(generally not) have such a key, in which pressing shift+f10 is the
equivalent of pressing the application key.
do note that the keyboard built in to a laptop might have an app key in
a different location in maintaining compactness.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Marty Hutchings [mailto:mhutchings@...]
Sent: Friday, Sep 7, 2018 9:01 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Apps alternative combo

What is an Apps key and how have I gotten along without one?  Is this
just for laptop users?
Love in Christ
Marty
*From:* Jim L <mailto:jimscave@...>
*Sent:* Friday, September 07, 2018 3:36 AM
*To:* jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
*Subject:* Apps alternative combo

Heya folks,

Have bought a new HP laptop Envy, doesn’t seem to have an apps key, is
there another alternative or combo keys that can do the same thing?

Cheers,

Jim

Re: Apps alternative combo

Dean Martineau
 

The application key is highly useful.  It is the equivalent of clicking the right mouse button, it offers you a context menu of things you can do where you are.  Most people do not use it enough.  On desktop computers it is the key to the left of the right-hand control key.  I would try to avoid buying a laptop that is devoid of this key, but some are.  You can get the same result with shift+f10, and you can reassign keys with programs such as KeyTweak to give a deprived laptop an application key.

 

Dean

 

Thought-provoking reading: http://bahaiteachings.org

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 9:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Apps alternative combo

 

What is an Apps key and how have I gotten along without one?  Is this just for laptop users?

 

Love in Christ
Marty

 

From: Jim L

Sent: Friday, September 07, 2018 3:36 AM

Subject: Apps alternative combo

 

Heya folks,

 

Have bought a new HP laptop Envy, doesn’t seem to have an apps key, is there another alternative or combo keys that can do the same thing?

 

Cheers,

 

Jim

 

Re: FireFox 61.0.2 Freezing

Bill White
 

Hi, Julie. Yes, it does. Also, once Use Recommended Settings is unchecked, you will also see one called

 

Use hardware acceleration when available

 

Make sure that box is also unchecked.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of WILKINSON Julie
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 1:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FireFox 61.0.2 Freezing

 

Hi all:

In Firefox options, I have unchecked the use recommended performance settings checkbox and have found this really improves Firefox performance.

Julie

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cathy
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2018 12:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FireFox 61.0.2 Freezing

 

Thanks

Cathy


On Sep 5, 2018, at 6:17 PM, Cristóbal <cristobalmuli@...> wrote:

V 62.0 came out today so you may want to try upgrading just to see if that helps at all.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cathy
Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 3:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: FireFox 61.0.2 Freezing

 

Hello

 

I am trying to figure out if my issue is FireFox, JAWS or computer related.

 

After downloading FireFox 61.0.2, when I use FireFox at times it will freeze, disappear and my cpu speed will increase to 40 – 80% and sound like it is working hard. When the FireFox is closed, the cpu speed returns to normal (0 – 20%).

 

We have uninstalled and reinstalled FireFox and still experiencing the same issue.

 

Is anyone else having this  experience or any suggestions?  Thanks in advance.

 

Cathy

 

 

 

 



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Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

Bill White
 

Yes, you must uninstall. There is not much time between the install and the update. Only a minute or two.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 10:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

Bill,  Wouldn’t I first have to uninstall Firefox and reinstall it?  When I run it after reinstalling it, how long do I have before it automatically updates itself?

 

Love in Christ
Marty

 

From: Bill White

Sent: Friday, September 07, 2018 12:00 PM

Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

Hi, J.M. Try the following to keep Firefox from updating automatically.

 

Keep Firefox From Updating

 

 

1. Open Firefox.

2. Press ALT plus T, then O for Options.

3. TAB about 27 times, find Updates, and Arrow down to “Never Check For Updates”.

4. Uncheck the box that says “Use A Background Service To Update Firefox”.

5. Go to Control Panel>Programs And Features, and uninstall Mozilla Maintenance Service.

6. Go to Program Files (if 64-bit) or to Program Files (x86) (if 32-bit).

7. Open the Mozilla Firefox folder, and delete the files named “updater.exe” and “updater.ini”.

8. Now Firefox cannot update automatically.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 9:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

Hey Bill.

 

Thanks for providing those links, but, unless I’m wrong, once installed, those Firefox 52 versions will try to update to 60, which is the version the ESR branch is currently on. This was what we were warned about last year; we could continue to use ESR until September of 2018, at which point it would also be switched to Quantum. This has  now happened to me.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: September 7, 2018 3:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

Hi, Marty. In order for you to use JAWS with Firefox 60 and up, you need the latest version of JAWS, which is JAWS 2018. JAWS 16, 17, and 18 are incompatible with Firefox 60 and up. These versions of Firefox are called Quantum. They contain a version of Sandbox which causes Firefox not to be able to react with JAWS versions earlier than 2018. They had to do some intensive reworking of JAWS to get it to function properly with the newer versions of Firefox. In order for you to use Firefox with JAWS 18, you would need to install an earlier version of Firefox ESR. I will provide a couple of links to the 32-bit and 64-bit versions of Firefox ESR in case you wish to downgrade your version of Firefox.

 

Firefox ESR 52, English US 32-bit:

 

Firefox Setup 52.0esr.exe

 

Firefox ESR 52, English US 64-bit:

 

Firefox Setup 52.0esr.exe

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2018 5:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

                   

                        HI,  I am new to this group and am having a similar issue with JAWS and Firefox.  When I open Firefox, I get a message saying that Tabs are incompatible with my adaptive software or my version of Firefox.  I have installed JFW 18 and Firefox 62.  There is no problem using NVDA and Firefox.  What is going on here?  Is it a Windows problem?  I am still running Windows 7.

Love in Christ
Marty Hutchings

 

From: Bill White

Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2018 5:42 PM

Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

Hi. Another thing I have found is that, if you uninstall Firefox, old profiles are left behind. So, I had to go into

 

Users\”Username”\AppData\Local\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles

 

and delete all the old profiles which were left behind.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Juan Hernandez
Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2018 12:50 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

HI All,

 

I was wondering if you have noticed with firefox 61, and now 62 that jfw locks up or I guess firefox locks up all of the time, it happens randomly, but it happens so much that I made chrome my default web browser.

 

Has anyone experienced this?

 

Best,

 

Juan Hernandez

Juanhernandez98@...

619-750-9431 (M)         |  858-777-3311 (F)

My WebSite | Twitter | FaceBook | LinkedIn

 

Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

Marty Hutchings
 

i thank you all for your suggestions, but this is silly.  I’m not paying another $1,000 for a JFW version just to get Firefox to work.  There has to be another browser that works with the version that I have.  Could someone please send me the executable for a browser that I can install.  Don’t send a link, as I do not have internet.
 
Love in Christ
Marty
 

From: JM Casey
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2018 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808
 

I know.

 

So the only reasonable choice really seems to be, stop using firefox, or use NVDA.

 

Or pay for another JAWS upgrade of course. Which I actually just did. Can’t say it was just for the sake of Firefox (there are other browsers after all) but it definitely helped give me a little push.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: September 7, 2018 2:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

If you are using the ESR version of Firefox, and you don’t turn off the updates, it will eventually update to version 60 ESR, and that one won’t work unless you have JAWS 2018.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 10:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

But, if you do that, I don’t think you’ll receive security and maintenance updates either. Given all the vulnerabilities in browsers that are getting reported these days (saw one about firefox just this morning), I don’t know that that’s a good idea. I personally had mine set to ask me to update, but I never deferred the updates for too long for this reason.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Mauck
Sent: September 7, 2018 1:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

You can go in to the options and turn off automatically update.

 

From: JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
Sent: September 7, 2018 10:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

Hey Bill.

 

Thanks for providing those links, but, unless I’m wrong, once installed, those Firefox 52 versions will try to update to 60, which is the version the ESR branch is currently on. This was what we were warned about last year; we could continue to use ESR until September of 2018, at which point it would also be switched to Quantum. This has  now happened to me.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: September 7, 2018 3:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

Hi, Marty. In order for you to use JAWS with Firefox 60 and up, you need the latest version of JAWS, which is JAWS 2018. JAWS 16, 17, and 18 are incompatible with Firefox 60 and up. These versions of Firefox are called Quantum. They contain a version of Sandbox which causes Firefox not to be able to react with JAWS versions earlier than 2018. They had to do some intensive reworking of JAWS to get it to function properly with the newer versions of Firefox. In order for you to use Firefox with JAWS 18, you would need to install an earlier version of Firefox ESR. I will provide a couple of links to the 32-bit and 64-bit versions of Firefox ESR in case you wish to downgrade your version of Firefox.

 

Firefox ESR 52, English US 32-bit:

 

Firefox Setup 52.0esr.exe

 

Firefox ESR 52, English US 64-bit:

 

Firefox Setup 52.0esr.exe

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2018 5:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

                   

                        HI,  I am new to this group and am having a similar issue with JAWS and Firefox.  When I open Firefox, I get a message saying that Tabs are incompatible with my adaptive software or my version of Firefox.  I have installed JFW 18 and Firefox 62.  There is no problem using NVDA and Firefox.  What is going on here?  Is it a Windows problem?  I am still running Windows 7.

Love in Christ
Marty Hutchings

 

From: Bill White

Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2018 5:42 PM

Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

Hi. Another thing I have found is that, if you uninstall Firefox, old profiles are left behind. So, I had to go into

 

Users\”Username”\AppData\Local\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles

 

and delete all the old profiles which were left behind.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Juan Hernandez
Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2018 12:50 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

HI All,

 

I was wondering if you have noticed with firefox 61, and now 62 that jfw locks up or I guess firefox locks up all of the time, it happens randomly, but it happens so much that I made chrome my default web browser.

 

Has anyone experienced this?

 

Best,

 

Juan Hernandez

Juanhernandez98@...

619-750-9431 (M)         |  858-777-3311 (F)

My WebSite | Twitter | FaceBook | LinkedIn

 

Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

Bill White
 

Hi, Marty. Can you do the following keystroke, and report back which version of Firefox is installed. It sounds like it is updating to Version 60, and not staying with Version 52. Try the following keystroke when firefox is open:

 

JAWS key plus CONTROL key plus V

 

This should give you the version which is actually installed on your computer right now.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 9:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

I managed to instal the 32 bit version of the Firefox version that you sent to me, but I still get the following message when I try to hit a link from a email message.  “Display of tab content is disabled do to incompatibility between Firefox and your accessibility software.  Please update your screen reader or switch to Firefox extended support release.”

 

Love in Christ
Marty

 

From: Bill White

Sent: Friday, September 07, 2018 2:50 AM

Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

Hi, Marty. In order for you to use JAWS with Firefox 60 and up, you need the latest version of JAWS, which is JAWS 2018. JAWS 16, 17, and 18 are incompatible with Firefox 60 and up. These versions of Firefox are called Quantum. They contain a version of Sandbox which causes Firefox not to be able to react with JAWS versions earlier than 2018. They had to do some intensive reworking of JAWS to get it to function properly with the newer versions of Firefox. In order for you to use Firefox with JAWS 18, you would need to install an earlier version of Firefox ESR. I will provide a couple of links to the 32-bit and 64-bit versions of Firefox ESR in case you wish to downgrade your version of Firefox.

 

Firefox ESR 52, English US 32-bit:

 

Firefox Setup 52.0esr.exe

 

Firefox ESR 52, English US 64-bit:

 

Firefox Setup 52.0esr.exe

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2018 5:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

                   

                        HI,  I am new to this group and am having a similar issue with JAWS and Firefox.  When I open Firefox, I get a message saying that Tabs are incompatible with my adaptive software or my version of Firefox.  I have installed JFW 18 and Firefox 62.  There is no problem using NVDA and Firefox.  What is going on here?  Is it a Windows problem?  I am still running Windows 7.

Love in Christ
Marty Hutchings

 

From: Bill White

Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2018 5:42 PM

Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

Hi. Another thing I have found is that, if you uninstall Firefox, old profiles are left behind. So, I had to go into

 

Users\”Username”\AppData\Local\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles

 

and delete all the old profiles which were left behind.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Juan Hernandez
Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2018 12:50 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

HI All,

 

I was wondering if you have noticed with firefox 61, and now 62 that jfw locks up or I guess firefox locks up all of the time, it happens randomly, but it happens so much that I made chrome my default web browser.

 

Has anyone experienced this?

 

Best,

 

Juan Hernandez

Juanhernandez98@...

619-750-9431 (M)         |  858-777-3311 (F)

My WebSite | Twitter | FaceBook | LinkedIn

 

Re: FireFox 61.0.2 Freezing

WILKINSON Julie
 

Hi all:

In Firefox options, I have unchecked the use recommended performance settings checkbox and have found this really improves Firefox performance.

Julie

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cathy
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2018 12:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FireFox 61.0.2 Freezing

 

Thanks

Cathy


On Sep 5, 2018, at 6:17 PM, Cristóbal <cristobalmuli@...> wrote:

V 62.0 came out today so you may want to try upgrading just to see if that helps at all.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cathy
Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 3:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: FireFox 61.0.2 Freezing

 

Hello

 

I am trying to figure out if my issue is FireFox, JAWS or computer related.

 

After downloading FireFox 61.0.2, when I use FireFox at times it will freeze, disappear and my cpu speed will increase to 40 – 80% and sound like it is working hard. When the FireFox is closed, the cpu speed returns to normal (0 – 20%).

 

We have uninstalled and reinstalled FireFox and still experiencing the same issue.

 

Is anyone else having this  experience or any suggestions?  Thanks in advance.

 

Cathy

 

 

 

 



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Re: VPN and JAWS

Bill White
 

I’ll give you one example of how a VPN can be useful. Youtube has some programs that can only be viewed in Europe, or the originating country. Through the use of a VPN, you can fake your browser into telling the site you are going to that you are from another country, thus, you could watch Youtube videos not accessible to people in the United States.

 

Incidentally, this is one way people have started Facebook accounts, and made it look like they were from the U.S. when in fact, they were not.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marlo Green
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 7:00 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: VPN and JAWS

 

What is a VPN and what does it do?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lee, Amanda *
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 6:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: VPN and JAWS

 

I use Any Connect from Cisco for work.  I’m not certain what it costs.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert S Juenger
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2018 11:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: VPN and JAWS

 

I am looking for a personal VPN for my internet connections. 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Mauck
Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2018 9:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: VPN and JAWS

 

You can use the Microsoft VPN. Any Connect from Cisco also works well.

 

From: Robert S Juenger <rjuenger@...>
Sent: September 6, 2018 2:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: VPN and JAWS

 

Anyone using a VPN with JAWS?  Any Problems or products that work well? 
Robert Juenger    .

Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

Marty Hutchings
 

Bill,  Wouldn’t I first have to uninstall Firefox and reinstall it?  When I run it after reinstalling it, how long do I have before it automatically updates itself?
 
Love in Christ
Marty
 

From: Bill White
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2018 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808
 

Hi, J.M. Try the following to keep Firefox from updating automatically.

 

Keep Firefox From Updating

 

 

1. Open Firefox.

2. Press ALT plus T, then O for Options.

3. TAB about 27 times, find Updates, and Arrow down to “Never Check For Updates”.

4. Uncheck the box that says “Use A Background Service To Update Firefox”.

5. Go to Control Panel>Programs And Features, and uninstall Mozilla Maintenance Service.

6. Go to Program Files (if 64-bit) or to Program Files (x86) (if 32-bit).

7. Open the Mozilla Firefox folder, and delete the files named “updater.exe” and “updater.ini”.

8. Now Firefox cannot update automatically.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 9:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

Hey Bill.

 

Thanks for providing those links, but, unless I’m wrong, once installed, those Firefox 52 versions will try to update to 60, which is the version the ESR branch is currently on. This was what we were warned about last year; we could continue to use ESR until September of 2018, at which point it would also be switched to Quantum. This has  now happened to me.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: September 7, 2018 3:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

Hi, Marty. In order for you to use JAWS with Firefox 60 and up, you need the latest version of JAWS, which is JAWS 2018. JAWS 16, 17, and 18 are incompatible with Firefox 60 and up. These versions of Firefox are called Quantum. They contain a version of Sandbox which causes Firefox not to be able to react with JAWS versions earlier than 2018. They had to do some intensive reworking of JAWS to get it to function properly with the newer versions of Firefox. In order for you to use Firefox with JAWS 18, you would need to install an earlier version of Firefox ESR. I will provide a couple of links to the 32-bit and 64-bit versions of Firefox ESR in case you wish to downgrade your version of Firefox.

 

Firefox ESR 52, English US 32-bit:

 

Firefox Setup 52.0esr.exe

 

Firefox ESR 52, English US 64-bit:

 

Firefox Setup 52.0esr.exe

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2018 5:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

                   

                        HI,  I am new to this group and am having a similar issue with JAWS and Firefox.  When I open Firefox, I get a message saying that Tabs are incompatible with my adaptive software or my version of Firefox.  I have installed JFW 18 and Firefox 62.  There is no problem using NVDA and Firefox.  What is going on here?  Is it a Windows problem?  I am still running Windows 7.

Love in Christ
Marty Hutchings

 

From: Bill White

Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2018 5:42 PM

Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

Hi. Another thing I have found is that, if you uninstall Firefox, old profiles are left behind. So, I had to go into

 

Users\”Username”\AppData\Local\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles

 

and delete all the old profiles which were left behind.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Juan Hernandez
Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2018 12:50 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

HI All,

 

I was wondering if you have noticed with firefox 61, and now 62 that jfw locks up or I guess firefox locks up all of the time, it happens randomly, but it happens so much that I made chrome my default web browser.

 

Has anyone experienced this?

 

Best,

 

Juan Hernandez

Juanhernandez98@...

619-750-9431 (M)         |  858-777-3311 (F)

My WebSite | Twitter | FaceBook | LinkedIn

 

Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

Marty Hutchings
 

I managed to instal the 32 bit version of the Firefox version that you sent to me, but I still get the following message when I try to hit a link from a email message.  “Display of tab content is disabled do to incompatibility between Firefox and your accessibility software.  Please update your screen reader or switch to Firefox extended support release.”
 
Love in Christ
Marty
 

From: Bill White
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2018 2:50 AM
Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808
 

Hi, Marty. In order for you to use JAWS with Firefox 60 and up, you need the latest version of JAWS, which is JAWS 2018. JAWS 16, 17, and 18 are incompatible with Firefox 60 and up. These versions of Firefox are called Quantum. They contain a version of Sandbox which causes Firefox not to be able to react with JAWS versions earlier than 2018. They had to do some intensive reworking of JAWS to get it to function properly with the newer versions of Firefox. In order for you to use Firefox with JAWS 18, you would need to install an earlier version of Firefox ESR. I will provide a couple of links to the 32-bit and 64-bit versions of Firefox ESR in case you wish to downgrade your version of Firefox.

 

Firefox ESR 52, English US 32-bit:

 

Firefox Setup 52.0esr.exe

 

Firefox ESR 52, English US 64-bit:

 

Firefox Setup 52.0esr.exe

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2018 5:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

                   

                        HI,  I am new to this group and am having a similar issue with JAWS and Firefox.  When I open Firefox, I get a message saying that Tabs are incompatible with my adaptive software or my version of Firefox.  I have installed JFW 18 and Firefox 62.  There is no problem using NVDA and Firefox.  What is going on here?  Is it a Windows problem?  I am still running Windows 7.

Love in Christ
Marty Hutchings

 

From: Bill White

Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2018 5:42 PM

Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

Hi. Another thing I have found is that, if you uninstall Firefox, old profiles are left behind. So, I had to go into

 

Users\”Username”\AppData\Local\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles

 

and delete all the old profiles which were left behind.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Juan Hernandez
Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2018 12:50 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

HI All,

 

I was wondering if you have noticed with firefox 61, and now 62 that jfw locks up or I guess firefox locks up all of the time, it happens randomly, but it happens so much that I made chrome my default web browser.

 

Has anyone experienced this?

 

Best,

 

Juan Hernandez

Juanhernandez98@...

619-750-9431 (M)         |  858-777-3311 (F)

My WebSite | Twitter | FaceBook | LinkedIn

 

Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

Bill White
 

1. Killing the WiFi won’t work, because parts of the Firefox program are retrieved from the Internet during the install.

2. Each Firefox install uses a different profile. As a matter of fact, at one time, I had about six different profiles under my local\mozilla\profiles folder.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 2:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

How about killing the wifi/internet  connection before running the installer? That or simply uncheck the option to automatically update before unstalling the program and reinstalling it again? That option should then be saved in yoru profile.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 11:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

Hi, Don. It updates the minute it installs. There is often not enough time to go to automatic updates and turn them off before firefox is updated to version 60.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don Mauck
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 10:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

You can go in to the options and turn off automatically update.

 

From: JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
Sent: September 7, 2018 10:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

Hey Bill.

 

Thanks for providing those links, but, unless I’m wrong, once installed, those Firefox 52 versions will try to update to 60, which is the version the ESR branch is currently on. This was what we were warned about last year; we could continue to use ESR until September of 2018, at which point it would also be switched to Quantum. This has  now happened to me.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: September 7, 2018 3:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

Hi, Marty. In order for you to use JAWS with Firefox 60 and up, you need the latest version of JAWS, which is JAWS 2018. JAWS 16, 17, and 18 are incompatible with Firefox 60 and up. These versions of Firefox are called Quantum. They contain a version of Sandbox which causes Firefox not to be able to react with JAWS versions earlier than 2018. They had to do some intensive reworking of JAWS to get it to function properly with the newer versions of Firefox. In order for you to use Firefox with JAWS 18, you would need to install an earlier version of Firefox ESR. I will provide a couple of links to the 32-bit and 64-bit versions of Firefox ESR in case you wish to downgrade your version of Firefox.

 

Firefox ESR 52, English US 32-bit:

 

Firefox Setup 52.0esr.exe

 

Firefox ESR 52, English US 64-bit:

 

Firefox Setup 52.0esr.exe

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2018 5:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

                   

                        HI,  I am new to this group and am having a similar issue with JAWS and Firefox.  When I open Firefox, I get a message saying that Tabs are incompatible with my adaptive software or my version of Firefox.  I have installed JFW 18 and Firefox 62.  There is no problem using NVDA and Firefox.  What is going on here?  Is it a Windows problem?  I am still running Windows 7.

Love in Christ
Marty Hutchings

 

From: Bill White

Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2018 5:42 PM

Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

Hi. Another thing I have found is that, if you uninstall Firefox, old profiles are left behind. So, I had to go into

 

Users\”Username”\AppData\Local\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles

 

and delete all the old profiles which were left behind.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Juan Hernandez
Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2018 12:50 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

HI All,

 

I was wondering if you have noticed with firefox 61, and now 62 that jfw locks up or I guess firefox locks up all of the time, it happens randomly, but it happens so much that I made chrome my default web browser.

 

Has anyone experienced this?

 

Best,

 

Juan Hernandez

Juanhernandez98@...

619-750-9431 (M)         |  858-777-3311 (F)

My WebSite | Twitter | FaceBook | LinkedIn

 

Re: JAWS and Quickbooks

Tanner Gers <creativesuccess@...>
 

No, unfortunately Intuit sold that portion of their business. We’ve spoke with quicken about their accessibility, and we know we can help them with their platform, but they didn’t want to spend the money to do it.

Thanks for asking though…

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 3:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Quickbooks

 

Do you have this built for qHBD, quicken home and business desktop?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tanner Gers
Sent: September 6, 2018 16:15
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Quickbooks

 

I forgot to mention in my previous reply about the Jaws scripts for QuickBooks desktop on Windows, the scripts are included free when you purchase QBWD from the MBS store; or are also free with the purchase of the scripts user guide and virtual training lessons. And, it’s a business expense as well.

So, if you already have the software, and you just want to purchase the tutorials, virtual lessons, and user guide, you can, and you get the scripts included.

You can see everything right here:

 

Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

Cristóbal
 

How about killing the wifi/internet  connection before running the installer? That or simply uncheck the option to automatically update before unstalling the program and reinstalling it again? That option should then be saved in yoru profile.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 11:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

Hi, Don. It updates the minute it installs. There is often not enough time to go to automatic updates and turn them off before firefox is updated to version 60.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don Mauck
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 10:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

You can go in to the options and turn off automatically update.

 

From: JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
Sent: September 7, 2018 10:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

Hey Bill.

 

Thanks for providing those links, but, unless I’m wrong, once installed, those Firefox 52 versions will try to update to 60, which is the version the ESR branch is currently on. This was what we were warned about last year; we could continue to use ESR until September of 2018, at which point it would also be switched to Quantum. This has  now happened to me.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: September 7, 2018 3:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

Hi, Marty. In order for you to use JAWS with Firefox 60 and up, you need the latest version of JAWS, which is JAWS 2018. JAWS 16, 17, and 18 are incompatible with Firefox 60 and up. These versions of Firefox are called Quantum. They contain a version of Sandbox which causes Firefox not to be able to react with JAWS versions earlier than 2018. They had to do some intensive reworking of JAWS to get it to function properly with the newer versions of Firefox. In order for you to use Firefox with JAWS 18, you would need to install an earlier version of Firefox ESR. I will provide a couple of links to the 32-bit and 64-bit versions of Firefox ESR in case you wish to downgrade your version of Firefox.

 

Firefox ESR 52, English US 32-bit:

 

Firefox Setup 52.0esr.exe

 

Firefox ESR 52, English US 64-bit:

 

Firefox Setup 52.0esr.exe

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2018 5:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

                   

                        HI,  I am new to this group and am having a similar issue with JAWS and Firefox.  When I open Firefox, I get a message saying that Tabs are incompatible with my adaptive software or my version of Firefox.  I have installed JFW 18 and Firefox 62.  There is no problem using NVDA and Firefox.  What is going on here?  Is it a Windows problem?  I am still running Windows 7.

Love in Christ
Marty Hutchings

 

From: Bill White

Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2018 5:42 PM

Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

Hi. Another thing I have found is that, if you uninstall Firefox, old profiles are left behind. So, I had to go into

 

Users\”Username”\AppData\Local\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles

 

and delete all the old profiles which were left behind.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Juan Hernandez
Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2018 12:50 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

HI All,

 

I was wondering if you have noticed with firefox 61, and now 62 that jfw locks up or I guess firefox locks up all of the time, it happens randomly, but it happens so much that I made chrome my default web browser.

 

Has anyone experienced this?

 

Best,

 

Juan Hernandez

Juanhernandez98@...

619-750-9431 (M)         |  858-777-3311 (F)

My WebSite | Twitter | FaceBook | LinkedIn

 

Re: VPN and JAWS

Marlo Green
 

What is a VPN and what does it do?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lee, Amanda *
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 6:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: VPN and JAWS

 

I use Any Connect from Cisco for work.  I’m not certain what it costs.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert S Juenger
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2018 11:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: VPN and JAWS

 

I am looking for a personal VPN for my internet connections. 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Mauck
Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2018 9:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: VPN and JAWS

 

You can use the Microsoft VPN. Any Connect from Cisco also works well.

 

From: Robert S Juenger <rjuenger@...>
Sent: September 6, 2018 2:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: VPN and JAWS

 

Anyone using a VPN with JAWS?  Any Problems or products that work well? 
Robert Juenger    .

Re: Apps alternative combo

Marty Hutchings
 

What is an Apps key and how have I gotten along without one?  Is this just for laptop users?
 
Love in Christ
Marty
 

From: Jim L
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2018 3:36 AM
Subject: Apps alternative combo
 

Heya folks,

 

Have bought a new HP laptop Envy, doesn’t seem to have an apps key, is there another alternative or combo keys that can do the same thing?

 

Cheers,

 

Jim

 

Re: FireFox 61.0.2 Freezing

 

Thanks

Cathy

On Sep 5, 2018, at 6:17 PM, Cristóbal <cristobalmuli@...> wrote:

V 62.0 came out today so you may want to try upgrading just to see if that helps at all.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cathy
Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 3:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: FireFox 61.0.2 Freezing

 

Hello

 

I am trying to figure out if my issue is FireFox, JAWS or computer related.

 

After downloading FireFox 61.0.2, when I use FireFox at times it will freeze, disappear and my cpu speed will increase to 40 – 80% and sound like it is working hard. When the FireFox is closed, the cpu speed returns to normal (0 – 20%).

 

We have uninstalled and reinstalled FireFox and still experiencing the same issue.

 

Is anyone else having this  experience or any suggestions?  Thanks in advance.

 

Cathy

 

 

 

 

Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
 

I know.

 

So the only reasonable choice really seems to be, stop using firefox, or use NVDA.

 

Or pay for another JAWS upgrade of course. Which I actually just did. Can’t say it was just for the sake of Firefox (there are other browsers after all) but it definitely helped give me a little push.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: September 7, 2018 2:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

If you are using the ESR version of Firefox, and you don’t turn off the updates, it will eventually update to version 60 ESR, and that one won’t work unless you have JAWS 2018.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 10:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

But, if you do that, I don’t think you’ll receive security and maintenance updates either. Given all the vulnerabilities in browsers that are getting reported these days (saw one about firefox just this morning), I don’t know that that’s a good idea. I personally had mine set to ask me to update, but I never deferred the updates for too long for this reason.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Mauck
Sent: September 7, 2018 1:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

You can go in to the options and turn off automatically update.

 

From: JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
Sent: September 7, 2018 10:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

Hey Bill.

 

Thanks for providing those links, but, unless I’m wrong, once installed, those Firefox 52 versions will try to update to 60, which is the version the ESR branch is currently on. This was what we were warned about last year; we could continue to use ESR until September of 2018, at which point it would also be switched to Quantum. This has  now happened to me.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: September 7, 2018 3:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

Hi, Marty. In order for you to use JAWS with Firefox 60 and up, you need the latest version of JAWS, which is JAWS 2018. JAWS 16, 17, and 18 are incompatible with Firefox 60 and up. These versions of Firefox are called Quantum. They contain a version of Sandbox which causes Firefox not to be able to react with JAWS versions earlier than 2018. They had to do some intensive reworking of JAWS to get it to function properly with the newer versions of Firefox. In order for you to use Firefox with JAWS 18, you would need to install an earlier version of Firefox ESR. I will provide a couple of links to the 32-bit and 64-bit versions of Firefox ESR in case you wish to downgrade your version of Firefox.

 

Firefox ESR 52, English US 32-bit:

 

Firefox Setup 52.0esr.exe

 

Firefox ESR 52, English US 64-bit:

 

Firefox Setup 52.0esr.exe

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2018 5:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

                   

                        HI,  I am new to this group and am having a similar issue with JAWS and Firefox.  When I open Firefox, I get a message saying that Tabs are incompatible with my adaptive software or my version of Firefox.  I have installed JFW 18 and Firefox 62.  There is no problem using NVDA and Firefox.  What is going on here?  Is it a Windows problem?  I am still running Windows 7.

Love in Christ
Marty Hutchings

 

From: Bill White

Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2018 5:42 PM

Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

Hi. Another thing I have found is that, if you uninstall Firefox, old profiles are left behind. So, I had to go into

 

Users\”Username”\AppData\Local\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles

 

and delete all the old profiles which were left behind.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Juan Hernandez
Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2018 12:50 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

HI All,

 

I was wondering if you have noticed with firefox 61, and now 62 that jfw locks up or I guess firefox locks up all of the time, it happens randomly, but it happens so much that I made chrome my default web browser.

 

Has anyone experienced this?

 

Best,

 

Juan Hernandez

Juanhernandez98@...

619-750-9431 (M)         |  858-777-3311 (F)

My WebSite | Twitter | FaceBook | LinkedIn

 

Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

Bill White
 

If you are using the ESR version of Firefox, and you don’t turn off the updates, it will eventually update to version 60 ESR, and that one won’t work unless you have JAWS 2018.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 10:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

But, if you do that, I don’t think you’ll receive security and maintenance updates either. Given all the vulnerabilities in browsers that are getting reported these days (saw one about firefox just this morning), I don’t know that that’s a good idea. I personally had mine set to ask me to update, but I never deferred the updates for too long for this reason.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Mauck
Sent: September 7, 2018 1:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

You can go in to the options and turn off automatically update.

 

From: JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
Sent: September 7, 2018 10:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

Hey Bill.

 

Thanks for providing those links, but, unless I’m wrong, once installed, those Firefox 52 versions will try to update to 60, which is the version the ESR branch is currently on. This was what we were warned about last year; we could continue to use ESR until September of 2018, at which point it would also be switched to Quantum. This has  now happened to me.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: September 7, 2018 3:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

Hi, Marty. In order for you to use JAWS with Firefox 60 and up, you need the latest version of JAWS, which is JAWS 2018. JAWS 16, 17, and 18 are incompatible with Firefox 60 and up. These versions of Firefox are called Quantum. They contain a version of Sandbox which causes Firefox not to be able to react with JAWS versions earlier than 2018. They had to do some intensive reworking of JAWS to get it to function properly with the newer versions of Firefox. In order for you to use Firefox with JAWS 18, you would need to install an earlier version of Firefox ESR. I will provide a couple of links to the 32-bit and 64-bit versions of Firefox ESR in case you wish to downgrade your version of Firefox.

 

Firefox ESR 52, English US 32-bit:

 

Firefox Setup 52.0esr.exe

 

Firefox ESR 52, English US 64-bit:

 

Firefox Setup 52.0esr.exe

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2018 5:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

                   

                        HI,  I am new to this group and am having a similar issue with JAWS and Firefox.  When I open Firefox, I get a message saying that Tabs are incompatible with my adaptive software or my version of Firefox.  I have installed JFW 18 and Firefox 62.  There is no problem using NVDA and Firefox.  What is going on here?  Is it a Windows problem?  I am still running Windows 7.

Love in Christ
Marty Hutchings

 

From: Bill White

Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2018 5:42 PM

Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

Hi. Another thing I have found is that, if you uninstall Firefox, old profiles are left behind. So, I had to go into

 

Users\”Username”\AppData\Local\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles

 

and delete all the old profiles which were left behind.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Juan Hernandez
Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2018 12:50 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

HI All,

 

I was wondering if you have noticed with firefox 61, and now 62 that jfw locks up or I guess firefox locks up all of the time, it happens randomly, but it happens so much that I made chrome my default web browser.

 

Has anyone experienced this?

 

Best,

 

Juan Hernandez

Juanhernandez98@...

619-750-9431 (M)         |  858-777-3311 (F)

My WebSite | Twitter | FaceBook | LinkedIn

 

Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

Bill White
 

Hi, Don. It updates the minute it installs. There is often not enough time to go to automatic updates and turn them off before firefox is updated to version 60.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don Mauck
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 10:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

You can go in to the options and turn off automatically update.

 

From: JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
Sent: September 7, 2018 10:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

Hey Bill.

 

Thanks for providing those links, but, unless I’m wrong, once installed, those Firefox 52 versions will try to update to 60, which is the version the ESR branch is currently on. This was what we were warned about last year; we could continue to use ESR until September of 2018, at which point it would also be switched to Quantum. This has  now happened to me.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: September 7, 2018 3:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

Hi, Marty. In order for you to use JAWS with Firefox 60 and up, you need the latest version of JAWS, which is JAWS 2018. JAWS 16, 17, and 18 are incompatible with Firefox 60 and up. These versions of Firefox are called Quantum. They contain a version of Sandbox which causes Firefox not to be able to react with JAWS versions earlier than 2018. They had to do some intensive reworking of JAWS to get it to function properly with the newer versions of Firefox. In order for you to use Firefox with JAWS 18, you would need to install an earlier version of Firefox ESR. I will provide a couple of links to the 32-bit and 64-bit versions of Firefox ESR in case you wish to downgrade your version of Firefox.

 

Firefox ESR 52, English US 32-bit:

 

Firefox Setup 52.0esr.exe

 

Firefox ESR 52, English US 64-bit:

 

Firefox Setup 52.0esr.exe

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2018 5:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

                   

                        HI,  I am new to this group and am having a similar issue with JAWS and Firefox.  When I open Firefox, I get a message saying that Tabs are incompatible with my adaptive software or my version of Firefox.  I have installed JFW 18 and Firefox 62.  There is no problem using NVDA and Firefox.  What is going on here?  Is it a Windows problem?  I am still running Windows 7.

Love in Christ
Marty Hutchings

 

From: Bill White

Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2018 5:42 PM

Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

Hi. Another thing I have found is that, if you uninstall Firefox, old profiles are left behind. So, I had to go into

 

Users\”Username”\AppData\Local\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles

 

and delete all the old profiles which were left behind.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Juan Hernandez
Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2018 12:50 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

 

HI All,

 

I was wondering if you have noticed with firefox 61, and now 62 that jfw locks up or I guess firefox locks up all of the time, it happens randomly, but it happens so much that I made chrome my default web browser.

 

Has anyone experienced this?

 

Best,

 

Juan Hernandez

Juanhernandez98@...

619-750-9431 (M)         |  858-777-3311 (F)

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Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
 

The ESR was still receiving security updates; hence Extended Support.

But the ESR has now moved on to version 60, just as they warned it would around this time last year.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: September 7, 2018 1:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808

the problem is if you are still useing ff 52 esr you won't get security updates anyway. weather you have updateing turned off or not.
this goes with all older versions of firefox that have not been upgraded.

-----Original Message-----
From: JM Casey
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2018 10:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808



But, if you do that, I don’t think you’ll receive security and maintenance
updates either. Given all the vulnerabilities in browsers that are getting
reported these days (saw one about firefox just this morning), I don’t know
that that’s a good idea. I personally had mine set to ask me to update, but I
never deferred the updates for too long for this reason.









From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Mauck
Sent: September 7, 2018 1:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808





You can go in to the options and turn off automatically update.





From: JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
Sent: September 7, 2018 10:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808





Hey Bill.



Thanks for providing those links, but, unless I’m wrong, once installed, those
Firefox 52 versions will try to update to 60, which is the version the ESR
branch is currently on. This was what we were warned about last year; we could
continue to use ESR until September of 2018, at which point it would also be
switched to Quantum. This has now happened to me.









From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: September 7, 2018 3:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808





Hi, Marty. In order for you to use JAWS with Firefox 60 and up, you need the
latest version of JAWS, which is JAWS 2018. JAWS 16, 17, and 18 are
incompatible with Firefox 60 and up. These versions of Firefox are called
Quantum. They contain a version of Sandbox which causes Firefox not to be able
to react with JAWS versions earlier than 2018. They had to do some intensive
reworking of JAWS to get it to function properly with the newer versions of
Firefox. In order for you to use Firefox with JAWS 18, you would need to
install an earlier version of Firefox ESR. I will provide a couple of links to
the 32-bit and 64-bit versions of Firefox ESR in case you wish to downgrade
your version of Firefox.



Firefox ESR 52, English US 32-bit:



Firefox Setup 52.0esr.exe



Firefox ESR 52, English US 64-bit:



Firefox Setup 52.0esr.exe





Bill White



billwhite92701@...







From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marty
Hutchings
Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2018 5:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808











HI, I am new to this group and am having a similar
issue with JAWS and Firefox. When I open Firefox, I get a message saying that
Tabs are incompatible with my adaptive software or my version of Firefox. I
have installed JFW 18 and Firefox 62. There is no problem using NVDA and
Firefox. What is going on here? Is it a Windows problem? I am still running
Windows 7.



Love in Christ
Marty Hutchings







From: Bill White



Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2018 5:42 PM



To: main@jfw.groups.io



Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808







Hi. Another thing I have found is that, if you uninstall Firefox, old profiles
are left behind. So, I had to go into



Users\”Username”\AppData\Local\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles



and delete all the old profiles which were left behind.





Bill White



billwhite92701@...







From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Juan
Hernandez
Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2018 12:50 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808





HI All,



I was wondering if you have noticed with firefox 61, and now 62 that jfw locks
up or I guess firefox locks up all of the time, it happens randomly, but it
happens so much that I made chrome my default web browser.



Has anyone experienced this?



Best,



Juan Hernandez

Juanhernandez98@...

619-750-9431 (M) | 858-777-3311 (F)

My WebSite | Twitter | FaceBook | LinkedIn