Re: outlook 2016 and JAWS 2019, seems to be a new bug
Tom Behler
Steve:
I have Outlook 2016 and Jaws 2019 here, and have not noticed what you describe.
I’m using Windows 10 version 1809 here.
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019 3:58 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: outlook 2016 and JAWS 2019, seems to be a new bug
Hi all,
Anyone noticed with the above setup, that in an opened message, pressing the alt and number keys, no longer reads the To:, From:, Date fields etc, instead just saying Unavailable?
All the best
Steve
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Re: Microsoft's Own Security Chief Says: STOP using Internet Explorer
Soronel Haetir
Removing IE would break an incredible amount of compatibility, which
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for MS is a huge no-no. For example, my family owns a small retail store with some security cameras installed. The remote access software for the DVR is served up as an ActiveX control embedded in a web page. This pretty much means that IE is the only browser capable of displaying the feeds. Removing IE would thus completely break our ability to view the cameras from remote locations. Even worse than removing IE would be removing the mshtml renderer (IE is basically just a UI wrappr around the mshtml renderer). The edge renderer can be embedded in .net projects but not code that targets the native windows programming layer. That is not true of mshtml. And unfortunately that degree of versatility is both why IE was so incredibly successful at the time and why it is impossible to fix the security issues.
On 2/8/19, Chris via Groups.Io <chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:
So why don't they just remove it from windows then? --
Soronel Haetir soronel.haetir@gmail.com
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Re: The best accessible RSS-reader to Google Chrome with JAWS 2019
Anders Boholdt-Petersen
Hi Again, and thanks for the answer.
One of my friends have problems on his computer, where Internet Explorer not will startup at the time I write you. Therefore I looking after another RSS-reader. What is the best accessible RSS-reader that I install on Windows itself with JAWS 2019? Regards, Anders
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Re: major windows 10 problem with jaws, file explorer not responding
Bill,
I agree. I frequently forget that users of assistive technology have the option of availing themselves of Microsoft technical support free of charge, and if you can, why not? There is the occasional bad tech, true, but when that happens just politely terminate the call and try again. You're not likely to get the same one twice if calling again right after hanging up. They've already picked up the next call that was on hold. -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong. ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
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Re: screen shade on by default
Mike B. <mike9902@...>
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Hi Daniel,
The easiest way I found to confirm whether the screen shade is
on or off is to go into the quick settings menu with, Insert + V, or
Capslock + V, if you are using the laptop layout, and in the search
field type shade. Next, down arrow once and JAWS should state whether it is
checked or not. Take Care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Book: a utensil used to pass time while waiting for the computer repairman!
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From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2019 8:51 AM
Subject: Re: screen shade on by default -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Daniel Wolak Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019 4:30 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: screen shade on by default Hi all, Just wondering if there is any way to have screen shade on by default in jaws 2019? Thanks, Daniel
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Re: major windows 10 problem with jaws, file explorer not responding
Bill White
The best way is to call the Microsoft Answer Desk at
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800-936-5900 They will do a Windows 10 reload/repair on both computers. This has fixed several problems for both myself and for friends. Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019 9:34 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: major windows 10 problem with jaws, file explorer not responding any ideas on how he can repair Windows for both computers other than running sfc? it really bugs him when it happens especially when he is using explorer, the task manager and some other programs. -------- Original Message -------- From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019, 11:56 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: major windows 10 problem with jaws, file explorer not responding "Not Responding" errors are, by their very nature, mysterious. If a shutdown/restart cycle clears them, and is not needed on a very frequent basis, that is my suggested fix. I get "not responding" not infrequently, particularly with web browsers, but sometimes with task manager and file explorer (Windows Explorer in 7 and earlier). If it's really, really frequent, then something's likely amiss with Windows itself and repairs to Windows should be done in an attempt to fix it. -- Brian *-*Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 */ Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong./* ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA /The Sage of Baltimore/
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Re: major windows 10 problem with jaws, file explorer not responding
Mario
any ideas on how he can repair Windows for both computers other than
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running sfc? it really bugs him when it happens especially when he is using explorer, the task manager and some other programs.
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From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019, 11:56 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: major windows 10 problem with jaws, file explorer not responding "Not Responding" errors are, by their very nature, mysterious. If a shutdown/restart cycle clears them, and is not needed on a very frequent basis, that is my suggested fix. I get "not responding" not infrequently, particularly with web browsers, but sometimes with task manager and file explorer (Windows Explorer in 7 and earlier). If it's really, really frequent, then something's likely amiss with Windows itself and repairs to Windows should be done in an attempt to fix it. -- Brian *-*Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 */ Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong./* ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA /The Sage of Baltimore/
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Re: outlook 2016 and JAWS 2019, seems to be a new bug
Hi Steve,
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Have you checked if the "Coming Soon" feature in Outlook is turned off? When you are in your Inbox press the Alt key to bring up the ribbon menu, you should be on "Home", now left arrow twice, here is Jaws History: I press the Alt key and here this: Upper Ribbon, Ribbon, Home Tab, Alt followed by H I press the left arrow once and here this: Leaving menus, File Tab Button, Alt followed by F I press the left arrow a second time and here this: Ribbon Tabs Tab expanded, Turn on features coming soon Button, Alt followed by U As you can see Alt followed by U is the shortcut, but that will just toggle it and not tell you if it's on or off. If it says " Turn on features coming soon" then it is off and your problem is a different one. But if you hear Turn off features coming soon Button checked" then it is on and you can turn this off by pressing the spacebar. Note that whether you turn it on or off Jaws will focus on an "OK" button and the message which it seems you can only read with the touch cursor is simply this: You must restart this application for the changes to take effect. OK So go ahead and press OK, then close Outlook completely, wait a few seconds and reopen it, now try to see if you can read those fields with the shortcut keys. I suggest this should be turned off, if it is on you may get upcoming features which could cause issues like this before Vispero and/or Microsoft has time to make any necessary changes. I certainly also don't have any issues with Alt + 1, Alt + 2 and so on reading the From, To, CC etc. Fields. Best regards, Sieghard
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019 5:03 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: outlook 2016 and JAWS 2019, seems to be a new bug Hi, Thanks for that. I'm using the same version, and the message is in focus. I can manually tab and shift tab to the info, but it is not speaking with the alt and numbers. The correct script is loading too. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shankar C Sent: 04 March 2019 12:07 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: outlook 2016 and JAWS 2019, seems to be a new bug Hi bro, I am using "Microsoft Outlook Subscription Version 16.0.10730.20280" I am able to read the sender information with alt and number keys without any issues. Please verify the focus once the message opens. if the focus is on the message and if you are not able to read the information with the alt and number keys, then, there might some issues with the jaws. On 3/4/19, Steve Nutt <steve@comproom.co.uk> wrote: Hi all, -- ----------"Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil - it has no point." ---------- email: harshalgips@gmail.com msn: harshalgips@hotmail.com skype: shankar.a mobile:+919945860671 thanks and regards shankar
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Issues with Groups.io e-mail being blocked (usually considered spam) by e-mail service providers
Hello All,
This is officially off-topic for the group, but as it's vital information and there has been a recent marked uptick in certain e-mail service providers blocking Groups.io messages it is important that the information be shared. It is really, really important that if your e-mail service provider is blocking Groups.io e-mail messages, or even causing them to bounce, that you get in touch with them and scream bloody murder about it. Until and unless enough customers make it clear that it is unacceptable to block messages from a subscription service such as Groups.io, which by definition cannot be spam, they're going to keep doing it because they have not permanently whitelisted Groups.io. Although what follows is specific to Earthlink, as they've recently been blocking, the same principles apply no matter who your e-mail service provider might be. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Earthlink issues have been under hot and heavy discussion on the Group Manager's Forum in topic:
These are just that, Earthlink issues, and one of the most recent offerings pretty much sums it up:
Tell them to visit the link below and follow directions found there. The IP address for Groups.io mail server is 66.175.222.12 ------------------------------------------------------- Users are going to have to take on a more active role in this, particularly in complaining to their providers about blocking known e-mail list services that can send messages to anyone if and only if they have subscribed to get them.
Groups.io needs to be whitelisted and the more customers that complain to their e-mail service providers about this the faster it will happen. --Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong. ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
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Re: major windows 10 problem with jaws, file explorer not responding
"Not Responding" errors are, by their very nature, mysterious. If a shutdown/restart cycle clears them, and is not needed on a very frequent basis, that is my suggested fix. I get "not responding" not infrequently, particularly with web browsers, but sometimes with task manager and file explorer (Windows Explorer in 7 and earlier).
If it's really, really frequent, then something's likely amiss with Windows itself and repairs to Windows should be done in an attempt to fix it. -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong. ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
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Re: major windows 10 problem with jaws, file explorer not responding
Mario
I've been following this thread... if doing so clears up the problem
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that was originally described, is there a fix to prevent this from occurring in the future? my friend is experiencing the same problem. he ran sfc /scannow in administrator mode but no issues were encountered. what else can he do? he is blind, and using Windows 7 and 10 and both computers have this problem occasionally.
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From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019, 11:06 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: major windows 10 problem with jaws, file explorer not responding And, if you have Fast Startup enabled, you must do a Restart, not a Shutdown followed by power up cycle, to get the computer to reload Windows 10 from disc from scratch rather than using the system hibernation file employed by Fast Startup. If you don't, then either a Restart or a Shutdown followed by power up will give you a fresh loading of Windows 10 off of disc. -- Brian *-*Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 */ Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong./* ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA /The Sage of Baltimore/
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Re: screen shade on by default
No, not to my knowledge.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Daniel Wolak Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019 4:30 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: screen shade on by default Hi all, Just wondering if there is any way to have screen shade on by default in jaws 2019? Thanks, Daniel
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Re: Bouncing email-
dennis
it's working.
On 3/4/2019 10:46 AM, Marla Bernbaum
wrote:
Hello, I have stopped receiving email from the list and got an email indicating that my emails were bouncing. I responded to that maessage and got a screen that said that my account was "unbounced". I still have not received any emails from the group in the last 3 or 4 days. My email is correct and I am appropriately receiving email from other sources. Is there something else I should do or resubscribe from scratch? Thanks, Marla --
Dennis Cornelison
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Bouncing email-
Marla Bernbaum
Hello,
I have stopped receiving email from the list and got an email indicating that my emails were bouncing. I responded to that maessage and got a screen that said that my account was "unbounced". I still have not received any emails from the group in the last 3 or 4 days. My email is correct and I am appropriately receiving email from other sources. Is there something else I should do or resubscribe from scratch? Thanks, Marla
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Re: major windows 10 problem with jaws, file explorer not responding
And, if you have Fast Startup enabled, you must do a Restart, not a Shutdown followed by power up cycle, to get the computer to reload Windows 10 from disc from scratch rather than using the system hibernation file employed by Fast Startup.
If you don't, then either a Restart or a Shutdown followed by power up will give you a fresh loading of Windows 10 off of disc. -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong. ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
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Re: outlook 2016 and JAWS 2019, seems to be a new bug
Steve Nutt
Hi,
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Thanks for that. I'm using the same version, and the message is in focus. I can manually tab and shift tab to the info, but it is not speaking with the alt and numbers. The correct script is loading too. All the best Steve
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shankar C Sent: 04 March 2019 12:07 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: outlook 2016 and JAWS 2019, seems to be a new bug Hi bro, I am using "Microsoft Outlook Subscription Version 16.0.10730.20280" I am able to read the sender information with alt and number keys without any issues. Please verify the focus once the message opens. if the focus is on the message and if you are not able to read the information with the alt and number keys, then, there might some issues with the jaws. On 3/4/19, Steve Nutt <steve@comproom.co.uk> wrote: Hi all, -- ----------"Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil - it has no point." ---------- email: harshalgips@gmail.com msn: harshalgips@hotmail.com skype: shankar.a mobile:+919945860671 thanks and regards shankar
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screen shade on by default
Daniel Wolak
Hi all,
Just wondering if there is any way to have screen shade on by default in jaws 2019? Thanks, Daniel
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Re: outlook 2016 and JAWS 2019, seems to be a new bug
Shankar C
Hi bro,
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I am using "Microsoft Outlook Subscription Version 16.0.10730.20280" I am able to read the sender information with alt and number keys without any issues. Please verify the focus once the message opens. if the focus is on the message and if you are not able to read the information with the alt and number keys, then, there might some issues with the jaws.
On 3/4/19, Steve Nutt <steve@comproom.co.uk> wrote:
Hi all, --
----------"Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil - it has no point." ---------- email: harshalgips@gmail.com msn: harshalgips@hotmail.com skype: shankar.a mobile:+919945860671 thanks and regards shankar
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Re: Another version of David Moore's excellent Chrome Browser Tutorial with headings
Les Kriegler
Hi Richard and All,
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Thanks Richard for doing this, as I prefer to navigate by headings. Another method for accomplishing this in Jaws is to turn Quick Keys on with Insert-Z. Then you can navigate with letter H through the headings. I have noticed that if you initiate a Say All with Insert-Down arrow, that turns off Quick Keys, so it must be invoked again with Insert-Z, a toggle by the way and then you can navigate again by headings. Les
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Sunday, March 3, 2019 11:38 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Another version of David Moore's excellent Chrome Browser Tutorial with headings Greetings, Since David gave blanket permission to put his tutorial out there and everywhere, and I don't like using bookmarks in Word, I did a version with Headings. Pressing insert+f6 brings up the headings list and you can then arrow down and hit enter on the section you want. I also did a tiny bit of grammar editing and one or two typos. I put it on my web site, and here is the direct link to the word docx file: http://www.turner42.com/ChromeBrowserTutorialByDavidMoorewithHeadings.docx HTH, Richard
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Re: major windows 10 problem with jaws, file explorer not responding
Steve Nutt
Hi,
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It doesn't sound like a JAWS problem. Have you tried it with NVDA? All the best Steve
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jed Barton Sent: 04 March 2019 00:04 To: main <main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: major windows 10 problem with jaws, file explorer not responding Hey guys, OK, running the latest jfw, and windows 10, i have never seen this before, but am quite concerned about it. Whenever i go to file explorer, even after a fresh reboot, it keeps saying file explorer not responding. This literally started happening 20 minutes ago with no logical explaination. I can't get to any of my external drives or anything. Can someone help?
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