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action: undo autoactions in outlook and word;

mike mcglashon
 

Hey guys:

Using word2016, outlook2016, latest win10 and jaws2019 regular release;

 

When in outlook and word, and whilst writing emails and docs,

I get this message popping up a lot, and it is truly annoying;

“action: undo autoactions”

(both speech and braille display);

It flickers;

 

Am guessing that there is something in both word and outlook that needs to be turned off;

Something that jaws is seeing and reacting too;

I went into settings with alt+f, t, and am not sure what to turn off, maybe something in proofing?

But am not sure what to turn off;

Any ideas?

 

Mike mcglashon

Email: Michael.mcglashon@...

Ph: 618 783 9331

 
Re: Avast anti-virus program redux

Gerald Levy
 

 
It may not be that simple.  Others have reported that it may be necessary to boot into safe mode in order to remove Avast with their removal tool.
 
Gerald
 
 
 

Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: Avast anti-virus program redux
 
Uninstalling Avast is not in any way different than any other program.  Open Control Panel, Programs and Features, select the program you wish to uninstall from the list, then bring up the context menu and select Uninstall from it.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

  If you remove all the homosexuals and homosexual influences from what is generally regarded as American culture, you are pretty much left with Let's Make a Deal.

          ~ Fran Lebowitz

Re: Avast anti-virus program redux

Brian Vogel
 

Uninstalling Avast is not in any way different than any other program.  Open Control Panel, Programs and Features, select the program you wish to uninstall from the list, then bring up the context menu and select Uninstall from it.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

  If you remove all the homosexuals and homosexual influences from what is generally regarded as American culture, you are pretty much left with Let's Make a Deal.

          ~ Fran Lebowitz
Avast anti-virus program redux

David Pearson
 

Hi all:

I'm told that if I uninstall the Avast program it will automatically be replaced by "Windows defender".

If this is so, what are the step-by step instructions to uninstall Avast using the Jaws screenreading program?

Thank you,



DSP
Re: anti-virus program recommendation

Sieghard Weitzel
 

OK, sorry, I don't think you said you are using Windows 7 before this. In this case use Security Essentials since Windows Defender is what comes with Windows 10.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Pearson
Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2018 8:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: anti-virus program recommendation

Hello list:

Currently using "Avast" on my Dell Windows7 64 bit desktop machine.

Would like to swap the Avast for different program. Any recommendations for something that will work well with Jaws?

Thank you,



David S. Pearson
Re: anti-virus program recommendation

Sieghard Weitzel
 

Just use Windows Defender

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Pearson
Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 7:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: anti-virus program recommendation

Hello all:

Thank you for your feedback. Last question on topic: Are any of the recommendations(3, I think) free, or do they require some sort of paid subscription?

Truly yours,



David S. Pearson

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Longmore
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 9:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: anti-virus program recommendation

Windows Defender works well as does WebRoot although the WebRoot interface does not always cooperate.

Dan


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 9:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: anti-virus program recommendation

Malwarebytes. I trust all my machines to it.


On 11/6/2018 11:52 PM, David Pearson wrote:
Hello list:

Currently using "Avast" on my Dell Windows7 64 bit desktop machine.

Would like to swap the Avast for different program. Any
recommendations for something that will work well with Jaws?

Thank you,



David S. Pearson
Re: How to get to mailbox folder navigation tree without F6 in Outlook2016

Sally Hagarty
 

Have you tried Control Y? That is what I usually recommend.
Re: 2019 not fully functional after boot up

Sieghard Weitzel
 

Have you tried to turn it off and back on in Jaws Settings? I have 4 desktops at work and my laptop at home and Jaws 2019 speaks at the logon screen as well as after the desktop loads 100% of the time on all my computers.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 7:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: 2019 not fully functional after boot up

I have a similar problem with 2019. In fact the automatic startup was
so unreliable that I've returned to 2018.

On 11/7/18, Mike Rogers <harpman9@...> wrote:
I also have a start up problem. Jaws sometimes fails to come on and I have
to use N.V.D.A. to get to the Jaws Icon and open it. But, this doesn't
always happen. Most of the time, Jaws comes on just fine. go figure.
Using Jws 19.

********************************

www.harmonicaworkshops.com



On Wed, 7 Nov 2018 12:59:34 +0000
"Stan Holdeman" <sholdeman@...> wrote:

Listers: With W 10, v.1803 and J2019.

I have jaws set to start up automatically at log in page and after log
in.

After boot up in the morning, j2019 opens fine but will not recognize
headings, form fields and other elements. It will read a text field. I
have tried task switching and page reload, but these do not help. After
unloading jaws and reloading it everything works great.

If later in the day, I sign out and back in all works fine.

Any suggestions?

Stan







--
Kimberly
Re: 2019 not fully functional after boot up

Sieghard Weitzel
 

Why not set a shortcut key like Control+Shift+J, also if you know your computer is logged in pressing Windows Key+M to make sure you are on the desktop and then J should put you on the Jaws icon unless you have other shortcuts which start with J, lastly you can press Windows Key+R and type Jaws2019 all without spaces and press enter. Any of these should start Jaws without having to first start another screenreader.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Rogers
Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 6:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: 2019 not fully functional after boot up

I also have a start up problem. Jaws sometimes fails to come on and I have to use N.V.D.A. to get to the Jaws Icon and open it. But, this doesn't always happen. Most of the time, Jaws comes on just fine. go figure. Using Jws 19.

********************************

www.harmonicaworkshops.com



On Wed, 7 Nov 2018 12:59:34 +0000
"Stan Holdeman" <sholdeman@...> wrote:

Listers: With W 10, v.1803 and J2019.

I have jaws set to start up automatically at log in page and after log in.

After boot up in the morning, j2019 opens fine but will not recognize headings, form fields and other elements. It will read a text field. I have tried task switching and page reload, but these do not help. After unloading jaws and reloading it everything works great.

If later in the day, I sign out and back in all works fine.

Any suggestions?

Stan
Re: How to get to mailbox folder navigation tree without F6 in Outlook 2016

Alan Robbins
 

Yes, and make sure the folder pan is enabled to show.

 

Al

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 10:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to get to mailbox folder navigation tree without F6 in Outlook 2016

 

You need to press Control+Shift+Tab to go from the message list to the folder tree.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of mike mcglashon
Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2018 1:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to get to mailbox folder navigation tree without F6 in Outlook 2016

 

Try doing a control tab between the list of msgs and the folders,

And vice versa, control shift tab also does likewise;

 

 

Mike mcglashon

Email: Michael.mcglashon@...

Ph: 618 783 9331

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2018 4:37 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: How to get to mailbox folder navigation tree without F6 in Outlook 2016

 

Hi!

 

I am using JAWS 2019 under Windows 7 Pro 64 bit.  In Outlook 2007, I used to be able to tab from my mailbox list view (listing all the emails therein) to the tree view showing all my various mailboxes (e.g., sent, deleted, drafts, etc.).  I think this tree view is called the “navigation pane.”  Now, in Outlook 2016 as I tab from the list view it seems only to go to the “search pane.”  Strangely, somehow I was able to tab into the navigation pane previously, but not anymore.  Now, to get to the navigation pane I must cycle through F6.

 

Thanks,

Richard
Re: How to get to mailbox folder navigation tree without F6 in Outlook 2016

Sieghard Weitzel
 

You need to press Control+Shift+Tab to go from the message list to the folder tree.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of mike mcglashon
Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2018 1:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to get to mailbox folder navigation tree without F6 in Outlook 2016

 

Try doing a control tab between the list of msgs and the folders,

And vice versa, control shift tab also does likewise;

 

 

Mike mcglashon

Email: Michael.mcglashon@...

Ph: 618 783 9331

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2018 4:37 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: How to get to mailbox folder navigation tree without F6 in Outlook 2016

 

Hi!

 

I am using JAWS 2019 under Windows 7 Pro 64 bit.  In Outlook 2007, I used to be able to tab from my mailbox list view (listing all the emails therein) to the tree view showing all my various mailboxes (e.g., sent, deleted, drafts, etc.).  I think this tree view is called the “navigation pane.”  Now, in Outlook 2016 as I tab from the list view it seems only to go to the “search pane.”  Strangely, somehow I was able to tab into the navigation pane previously, but not anymore.  Now, to get to the navigation pane I must cycle through F6.

 

Thanks,

Richard
Re: Jaws 2019 dowload trouble

Sieghard Weitzel
 

I have been using Security Essentials in Windows 7 ever since it became available and in Windows 10 this now is Windows Defender.
Before then, in the early 2000's I used Eset NOD32, but for the last 10years or so I see no point in free or paid third party solutions. I have 4 works PC's where employees work and need to go online as well as my laptop at home. As long as you make sure you keep Windows updated and use common sense when it comes to clicking on links in emails or opening attachments you get you'll be just fine, I think I once had some sort of virus back in the late 90's and it wasn't anything major, but if you click on something whichinstalls software that locks your computer as in where you fall victim to one of those scams where then you need to pay somebody to unlock it again I doubt that most anti virus software will make a difference.
The nice thing with Windows Defender is that it's just there, I never do anything in terms of consciously updating it, I rarely run deliberate scans and it never seems to really interfere with anything like what you just described.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Pearson
Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2018 1:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws 2019 dowload trouble

Hello group:

Vispero f/k/n FS says that my Avast anti-virus program is interfering with
my attempt to download, and run the 2019 Jaws, and they recommend
removing/uninstalling it.

What anti-virus program are most list users using, and how did you acquire
it?

Sincerely,



David Pearson
Re: 2019 not fully functional after boot up

Alan Robbins
 

Folks,

Hopefully folks are reporting this directly to Vispero as well as these lists. For things to get fixed, they need to hear about them.

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 10:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: 2019 not fully functional after boot up

I have a similar problem with 2019. In fact the automatic startup was so unreliable that I've returned to 2018.

On 11/7/18, Mike Rogers <harpman9@...> wrote:
I also have a start up problem. Jaws sometimes fails to come on and I
have to use N.V.D.A. to get to the Jaws Icon and open it. But, this
doesn't always happen. Most of the time, Jaws comes on just fine. go figure.
Using Jws 19.

********************************

www.harmonicaworkshops.com



On Wed, 7 Nov 2018 12:59:34 +0000
"Stan Holdeman" <sholdeman@...> wrote:

Listers: With W 10, v.1803 and J2019.

I have jaws set to start up automatically at log in page and after
log in.

After boot up in the morning, j2019 opens fine but will not recognize
headings, form fields and other elements. It will read a text field.
I have tried task switching and page reload, but these do not help.
After unloading jaws and reloading it everything works great.

If later in the day, I sign out and back in all works fine.

Any suggestions?

Stan







--
Kimberly
Re: anti-virus program recommendation

Mario
 

I rely on either JAWS or NVDA because I can't make out anything on
screen. I find it nearly impossible to adjust settings and perform a
scan (and probably other tasks sighted users can successfully use that I
haven't been able to try) because the information on it's UI is very
garbled (no seperation between words to make sense of what the on screen
information is). I complained a few times but they don't seem to
understand (or care) even though I urged them to have them install NVDA
and try to set settings and use Internet Security to see what frustrates
me. but they just don't understand. yes, I disabled graphics according
to their directions, but my frustration remains because disabling
graphics does not resolve the garbled on screen information. anybody
have a suggestion on resolving my issue?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Feliciano G [mailto:theblindman12v@...]
Sent: Wednesday, Nov 7, 2018 1:35 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: anti-virus program recommendation

I like Eset internet security.

On Nov 6, 2018, at 8:52 PM, David Pearson <dshawnpearson@...>
wrote:

Hello list:

Currently using "Avast" on my Dell Windows7 64 bit desktop machine.

Would like to swap the Avast for different program. Any recommendations
for something that will work well with Jaws?

Thank you,



David S. Pearson







.
Re: anti-virus program recommendation

David Pearson
 

Hello all:

Thank you for your feedback. Last question on topic: Are any of the recommendations(3, I think) free, or do they require some sort of paid subscription?

Truly yours,



David S. Pearson

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Longmore
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 9:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: anti-virus program recommendation

Windows Defender works well as does WebRoot although the WebRoot interface does not always cooperate.

Dan


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 9:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: anti-virus program recommendation

Malwarebytes. I trust all my machines to it.


On 11/6/2018 11:52 PM, David Pearson wrote:
Hello list:

Currently using "Avast" on my Dell Windows7 64 bit desktop machine.

Would like to swap the Avast for different program. Any
recommendations for something that will work well with Jaws?

Thank you,



David S. Pearson
Re: latest firefox and bookmarks

Chris
 

Bookmarks menu ,  I use a firefox extension to save to this folder by default

 

 

From: Jed Barton
Sent: 07 November 2018 14:55
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: latest firefox and bookmarks

 

ok so with control I, let me get your input guys, this should be a lot

easier.  I wanna have a simple list of bookmarks, and not have it be

complicated.  This shouldn't be hard.  By default, where do you guys

save bookmarks

 

On 11/7/18, Chris via Groups.Io <chrismedley@...> wrote:

> By default bookmarks go into the bookmarks toolbar folder

> See if your bookmark has gone into there

> 

> From: Jed Barton

> Sent: 07 November 2018 00:54

> To: main

> Subject: latest firefox and bookmarks

> 

> Hey guys,

> 

> OK, perhaps some of you can help.  So i am using the latest jaws, and

> the latest firefox.  I am bookmarking a website.  I know exactly what

> i called it.  However, i put it in other bookmarks.  I bookmarked the

> page.  However when i brought up my bookmarks, i didn't see it there.

> The name of it starts with the letter I, i kept hitting that, and

> nothing came up.  Very strange.  Any ideas on what to do?

> 

> Thanks,

> Jed

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

>

> 

> 

 

 

 
Re: 2019 not fully functional after boot up

Kimber Gardner
 

I have a similar problem with 2019. In fact the automatic startup was
so unreliable that I've returned to 2018.

On 11/7/18, Mike Rogers <harpman9@...> wrote:
I also have a start up problem. Jaws sometimes fails to come on and I have
to use N.V.D.A. to get to the Jaws Icon and open it. But, this doesn't
always happen. Most of the time, Jaws comes on just fine. go figure.
Using Jws 19.

********************************

www.harmonicaworkshops.com



On Wed, 7 Nov 2018 12:59:34 +0000
"Stan Holdeman" <sholdeman@...> wrote:

Listers: With W 10, v.1803 and J2019.

I have jaws set to start up automatically at log in page and after log
in.

After boot up in the morning, j2019 opens fine but will not recognize
headings, form fields and other elements. It will read a text field. I
have tried task switching and page reload, but these do not help. After
unloading jaws and reloading it everything works great.

If later in the day, I sign out and back in all works fine.

Any suggestions?

Stan






--
Kimberly
Re: latest firefox and bookmarks

Chris Hill
 

I save them in other bookmarks, then to find the latest one, I hit alt-b and start up arrowing.

On 11/7/2018 08:55, Jed Barton wrote:
ok so with control I, let me get your input guys, this should be a lot
easier. I wanna have a simple list of bookmarks, and not have it be
complicated. This shouldn't be hard. By default, where do you guys
save bookmarks

On 11/7/18, Chris via Groups.Io <chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:
By default bookmarks go into the bookmarks toolbar folder
See if your bookmark has gone into there

From: Jed Barton
Sent: 07 November 2018 00:54
To: main
Subject: latest firefox and bookmarks

Hey guys,

OK, perhaps some of you can help. So i am using the latest jaws, and
the latest firefox. I am bookmarking a website. I know exactly what
i called it. However, i put it in other bookmarks. I bookmarked the
page. However when i brought up my bookmarks, i didn't see it there.
The name of it starts with the letter I, i kept hitting that, and
nothing came up. Very strange. Any ideas on what to do?

Thanks,
Jed
Re: latest firefox and bookmarks

Bill White
 

I allow them to save in the usual location, except that I create a folder called General, and put everything under that. If I want subfolders, I put them under General. This way, if there are other folders at the same level as General, I can delete them, knowing they're not important to me.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 6:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: latest firefox and bookmarks

ok so with control I, let me get your input guys, this should be a lot
easier. I wanna have a simple list of bookmarks, and not have it be
complicated. This shouldn't be hard. By default, where do you guys
save bookmarks

On 11/7/18, Chris via Groups.Io <chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:
By default bookmarks go into the bookmarks toolbar folder
See if your bookmark has gone into there

From: Jed Barton
Sent: 07 November 2018 00:54
To: main
Subject: latest firefox and bookmarks

Hey guys,

OK, perhaps some of you can help. So i am using the latest jaws, and
the latest firefox. I am bookmarking a website. I know exactly what
i called it. However, i put it in other bookmarks. I bookmarked the
page. However when i brought up my bookmarks, i didn't see it there.
The name of it starts with the letter I, i kept hitting that, and
nothing came up. Very strange. Any ideas on what to do?

Thanks,
Jed
Re: latest firefox and bookmarks

Jed Barton <jedbarton@...>
 

ok so with control I, let me get your input guys, this should be a lot
easier. I wanna have a simple list of bookmarks, and not have it be
complicated. This shouldn't be hard. By default, where do you guys
save bookmarks

On 11/7/18, Chris via Groups.Io <chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:
By default bookmarks go into the bookmarks toolbar folder
See if your bookmark has gone into there

From: Jed Barton
Sent: 07 November 2018 00:54
To: main
Subject: latest firefox and bookmarks

Hey guys,

OK, perhaps some of you can help. So i am using the latest jaws, and
the latest firefox. I am bookmarking a website. I know exactly what
i called it. However, i put it in other bookmarks. I bookmarked the
page. However when i brought up my bookmarks, i didn't see it there.
The name of it starts with the letter I, i kept hitting that, and
nothing came up. Very strange. Any ideas on what to do?

Thanks,
Jed