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moderated Re: Jaws 2020

Loy <loyrg2845@...>
 

Jaws 2020 download file is 44,122 KB or about 40MB.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020


500 or 600 GB?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

I for one am glad Vispero has finally left the 90's and early 2000's behind and does no longer send out what to many are useless pieces of plastic especially since in my case I haven't had a PC with a DVD drive for many years.
The Jaws installer has changed some time ago and it is now a fairly small setup program which means it does not contain all the files needed for installation, instead it will download what is required from the web.
This approach is used by more and more software companies, it's been this way with Adobe Acrobat Reader for a long time, Chrome and Microsoft Edge are both installed this way, if you subscribe to Microsoft Office 365 the installer for the Office suite is also like this and so are many others.
The one difference between installers like most of the ones I mentioned above and the Jaws installer is that you can actually keep the Chrome installer or the Edge installer and if you run it a year from now on a new system it will still work and also download whatever is the latest version. For Jaws you still need to download a different setup program for the version of Jaws you want to install, but since it is only a bit over 40Mb, it only takes a few seconds on most fast internet connections nowadays and another nice thing is that you don't have to worry about 32 Bit and 64 Bit, the installer does both, looks at your system and knows which to install. The older installer was about 180 Mb, but it still downloaded the OCR component during the installation.
If for some reason you need a full installer or maybe you have a very slow internet connection where it's better to have everything downloaded to your computer first you can still download the entire DVD so to speak, it's I think something like a 500 or 600 Gb download and it is entirely meant to be run offline if needed.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 5:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

The reason is because they make major updates through the year now and would to keep sending out c d's for the updates.
They suggest downloading the update and then installing. Then saving the update on a thumb drive and do for each update through the year.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loreal Lavigna
Sent: October 30, 2019 4:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020
Importance: High

This is true. I do remember hearing on a podcast and later reading somewhere they would no longer be sending out CD/DVD discs with JAWS.

Sincerely,
Loreal Lavigna
General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist
Phone: (518)330-5188
E-Mail: LorealLavigna@gmail.com
Website: http://www.facebook.com/TranscriptsByLoreal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 7:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

They announced in one of the pod casts this summer updating jaws that they are not sending out c d's anymore.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: October 29, 2019 20:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Why don't you just download it, the fact is that even if they continue this in my opinion useless and wasteful tradition of mailing out DVD's, the version which will be current by the time you receive the DVD will already be newer than the original Jaws 2020.1910.54 release which you would get on the DVD.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 6:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

No, they no longer will mail out CD's.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Pearson" <dshawnpearson@suddenlink.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:22 PM
Subject: Jaws 2020


Hi list:

Will Vispero be mailing out this latest Jaws program release on cd,
and if yes, when should I expect to receive it?

Sincerely,



David S. Pearson


























moderated Re: Plugins for Windows Media Player

JM Casey
 

Oh yeah, only the classic skin will work properly. Accept no substitutes.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: October 30, 2019 11:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Plugins for Windows Media Player

 

Hay all,  The comment about skins got me thinking, so I reinstalled Winamp on the laptop and set the skins to classic, which is what I had it set to on my desktop and what to you know, it works now.  JAWS reads the tracks in the play list as i up and down arrow through it and the cross-fading works after a little fiddling  with it.

Thanks for baring with me through this.

Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

 

Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 7:25 PM

Subject: Re: Plugins for Windows Media Player

 

His email said he was on Jaws 2019  and not Jaws 15 this end which should be completely unproblematic.

.

However I agree  that he should experiment with views/skins in Winamp.

If that does not work then Possibly uninstall Winamp completely and re-download from  http://ninite.com/ and try again with the tried and tested method.

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: JM Casey
Sent: 28 October 2019 22:58
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Plugins for Windows Media Player

 

Something is wrong if you cannot arrow through eh playlist editor. This works fine for me in Windows 10, using JFW. And as Winamp hasn’t been updated much since 2013 or so (except for that 5.8 beta version that was mysteriously released recently), JAWS 15 should really still do what you need. However, if you are on Windows 10 with JAWS 15, you may already be experiencing a whole host of problems.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: October 28, 2019 5:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Plugins for Windows Media Player

 

My daughter wants me to DJ for her 16 birthday this Saturday.  Her play list is completed.  I had planned to run the music from a Windows 10 laptop running JAWS 2019 and Winamp which allows cross fading of songs, but JAWS does not tell me which screen that I am in nor does it let me arrow up and down through the play list as it used to with Windows 7 on my desktop machine.  I decided to use Windows Media Player on the laptop which does let me arrow through the play list and reads the tracks, but no cross fading feature.  Is there a plugin for Windows Media Player that will do this for me?  I tried looking at the plugin download menu option through the player, but no joy.  Just sound enhancers for surround sound.

 


moderated Re: a couple of Jaws questions

JM Casey
 

Hi.

No need to remove the old version -- you may find it useful someday if
something isn't working right. There's also not much need, in my experience,
to keep numerous old versions of the screen-reader around -- but some even
still swear by JAWS 17 for certain things, so eh, it's up to you.

The other thing is also up to you --- you have configuration files in your
old jFW. JAWS can "import" those settings to the new one. Say "yes" and
you'll never see that message again.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Pearson
Sent: October 30, 2019 12:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: a couple of Jaws questions

Hi List:

Had latest Jaws (2020 downloaded(via tandem) this morning. 2019 version
still remains. Should the older(2019) version be deleted, and if yes,
what's the best method to do this?

Further, when the new(2020) Jaws version starts, it says something about an
older version being detected, and asking me if I want to "import/migrate
settings". Is this anything to be concerned about, and should this have
been done via the tandem session when the 2020 release was installed?

Thank you,



David S. Pearson.


moderated a couple of Jaws questions

David Pearson
 

Hi List:

Had latest Jaws (2020 downloaded(via tandem) this morning. 2019 version still remains. Should the older(2019) version be deleted, and if yes, what's the best method to do this?

Further, when the new(2020) Jaws version starts, it says something about an older version being detected, and asking me if I want to "import/migrate settings". Is this anything to be concerned about, and should this have been done via the tandem session when the 2020 release was installed?

Thank you,



David S. Pearson.


moderated Re: Jaws 2020

Marty Hutchings
 

I am sure that JAWS 2020 is not a half of a terabyte.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

-----Original Message-----
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

What are you asking?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 8:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

500 or 600 GB?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

I for one am glad Vispero has finally left the 90's and early 2000's behind and does no longer send out what to many are useless pieces of plastic especially since in my case I haven't had a PC with a DVD drive for many years.
The Jaws installer has changed some time ago and it is now a fairly small setup program which means it does not contain all the files needed for installation, instead it will download what is required from the web.
This approach is used by more and more software companies, it's been this way with Adobe Acrobat Reader for a long time, Chrome and Microsoft Edge are both installed this way, if you subscribe to Microsoft Office 365 the installer for the Office suite is also like this and so are many others.
The one difference between installers like most of the ones I mentioned above and the Jaws installer is that you can actually keep the Chrome installer or the Edge installer and if you run it a year from now on a new system it will still work and also download whatever is the latest version.
For Jaws you still need to download a different setup program for the version of Jaws you want to install, but since it is only a bit over 40Mb, it only takes a few seconds on most fast internet connections nowadays and another nice thing is that you don't have to worry about 32 Bit and 64 Bit, the installer does both, looks at your system and knows which to install.
The older installer was about 180 Mb, but it still downloaded the OCR component during the installation.
If for some reason you need a full installer or maybe you have a very slow internet connection where it's better to have everything downloaded to your computer first you can still download the entire DVD so to speak, it's I think something like a 500 or 600 Gb download and it is entirely meant to be run offline if needed.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 5:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

The reason is because they make major updates through the year now and would to keep sending out c d's for the updates.
They suggest downloading the update and then installing. Then saving the update on a thumb drive and do for each update through the year.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loreal Lavigna
Sent: October 30, 2019 4:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020
Importance: High

This is true. I do remember hearing on a podcast and later reading somewhere they would no longer be sending out CD/DVD discs with JAWS.

Sincerely,
Loreal Lavigna
General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist
Phone: (518)330-5188
E-Mail: LorealLavigna@gmail.com
Website: http://www.facebook.com/TranscriptsByLoreal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 7:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

They announced in one of the pod casts this summer updating jaws that they are not sending out c d's anymore.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: October 29, 2019 20:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Why don't you just download it, the fact is that even if they continue this in my opinion useless and wasteful tradition of mailing out DVD's, the version which will be current by the time you receive the DVD will already be newer than the original Jaws 2020.1910.54 release which you would get on the DVD.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 6:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

No, they no longer will mail out CD's.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Pearson" <dshawnpearson@suddenlink.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:22 PM
Subject: Jaws 2020


Hi list:

Will Vispero be mailing out this latest Jaws program release on cd,
and if yes, when should I expect to receive it?

Sincerely,



David S. Pearson



moderated Re: Jaws 2020

 

Since I like to provide correct information wherever possible I just downloaded the offline installer for the 64 Bit version of Jaws 2020.1910.54 and it is 832Mb.
The regular installer which downloads what is needed during the setup is 44.1Mb.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 8:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

500 or 600 GB?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

I for one am glad Vispero has finally left the 90's and early 2000's behind and does no longer send out what to many are useless pieces of plastic especially since in my case I haven't had a PC with a DVD drive for many years.
The Jaws installer has changed some time ago and it is now a fairly small setup program which means it does not contain all the files needed for installation, instead it will download what is required from the web.
This approach is used by more and more software companies, it's been this way with Adobe Acrobat Reader for a long time, Chrome and Microsoft Edge are both installed this way, if you subscribe to Microsoft Office 365 the installer for the Office suite is also like this and so are many others.
The one difference between installers like most of the ones I mentioned above and the Jaws installer is that you can actually keep the Chrome installer or the Edge installer and if you run it a year from now on a new system it will still work and also download whatever is the latest version.
For Jaws you still need to download a different setup program for the version of Jaws you want to install, but since it is only a bit over 40Mb, it only takes a few seconds on most fast internet connections nowadays and another nice thing is that you don't have to worry about 32 Bit and 64 Bit, the installer does both, looks at your system and knows which to install.
The older installer was about 180 Mb, but it still downloaded the OCR component during the installation.
If for some reason you need a full installer or maybe you have a very slow internet connection where it's better to have everything downloaded to your computer first you can still download the entire DVD so to speak, it's I think something like a 500 or 600 Gb download and it is entirely meant to be run offline if needed.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 5:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

The reason is because they make major updates through the year now and would to keep sending out c d's for the updates.
They suggest downloading the update and then installing. Then saving the update on a thumb drive and do for each update through the year.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loreal Lavigna
Sent: October 30, 2019 4:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020
Importance: High

This is true. I do remember hearing on a podcast and later reading somewhere they would no longer be sending out CD/DVD discs with JAWS.

Sincerely,
Loreal Lavigna
General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist
Phone: (518)330-5188
E-Mail: LorealLavigna@gmail.com
Website: http://www.facebook.com/TranscriptsByLoreal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 7:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

They announced in one of the pod casts this summer updating jaws that they are not sending out c d's anymore.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: October 29, 2019 20:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Why don't you just download it, the fact is that even if they continue this in my opinion useless and wasteful tradition of mailing out DVD's, the version which will be current by the time you receive the DVD will already be newer than the original Jaws 2020.1910.54 release which you would get on the DVD.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 6:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

No, they no longer will mail out CD's.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Pearson" <dshawnpearson@suddenlink.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:22 PM
Subject: Jaws 2020


Hi list:

Will Vispero be mailing out this latest Jaws program release on cd,
and if yes, when should I expect to receive it?

Sincerely,



David S. Pearson



moderated Re: Jaws 2020

 

What are you asking?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 8:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

500 or 600 GB?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

I for one am glad Vispero has finally left the 90's and early 2000's behind and does no longer send out what to many are useless pieces of plastic especially since in my case I haven't had a PC with a DVD drive for many years.
The Jaws installer has changed some time ago and it is now a fairly small setup program which means it does not contain all the files needed for installation, instead it will download what is required from the web.
This approach is used by more and more software companies, it's been this way with Adobe Acrobat Reader for a long time, Chrome and Microsoft Edge are both installed this way, if you subscribe to Microsoft Office 365 the installer for the Office suite is also like this and so are many others.
The one difference between installers like most of the ones I mentioned above and the Jaws installer is that you can actually keep the Chrome installer or the Edge installer and if you run it a year from now on a new system it will still work and also download whatever is the latest version.
For Jaws you still need to download a different setup program for the version of Jaws you want to install, but since it is only a bit over 40Mb, it only takes a few seconds on most fast internet connections nowadays and another nice thing is that you don't have to worry about 32 Bit and 64 Bit, the installer does both, looks at your system and knows which to install.
The older installer was about 180 Mb, but it still downloaded the OCR component during the installation.
If for some reason you need a full installer or maybe you have a very slow internet connection where it's better to have everything downloaded to your computer first you can still download the entire DVD so to speak, it's I think something like a 500 or 600 Gb download and it is entirely meant to be run offline if needed.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 5:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

The reason is because they make major updates through the year now and would to keep sending out c d's for the updates.
They suggest downloading the update and then installing. Then saving the update on a thumb drive and do for each update through the year.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loreal Lavigna
Sent: October 30, 2019 4:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020
Importance: High

This is true. I do remember hearing on a podcast and later reading somewhere they would no longer be sending out CD/DVD discs with JAWS.

Sincerely,
Loreal Lavigna
General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist
Phone: (518)330-5188
E-Mail: LorealLavigna@gmail.com
Website: http://www.facebook.com/TranscriptsByLoreal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 7:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

They announced in one of the pod casts this summer updating jaws that they are not sending out c d's anymore.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: October 29, 2019 20:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Why don't you just download it, the fact is that even if they continue this in my opinion useless and wasteful tradition of mailing out DVD's, the version which will be current by the time you receive the DVD will already be newer than the original Jaws 2020.1910.54 release which you would get on the DVD.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 6:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

No, they no longer will mail out CD's.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Pearson" <dshawnpearson@suddenlink.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:22 PM
Subject: Jaws 2020


Hi list:

Will Vispero be mailing out this latest Jaws program release on cd,
and if yes, when should I expect to receive it?

Sincerely,



David S. Pearson



moderated Re: Jaws 2020

Marty Hutchings
 

500 or 600 GB?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

-----Original Message-----
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

I for one am glad Vispero has finally left the 90's and early 2000's behind and does no longer send out what to many are useless pieces of plastic especially since in my case I haven't had a PC with a DVD drive for many years.
The Jaws installer has changed some time ago and it is now a fairly small setup program which means it does not contain all the files needed for installation, instead it will download what is required from the web.
This approach is used by more and more software companies, it's been this way with Adobe Acrobat Reader for a long time, Chrome and Microsoft Edge are both installed this way, if you subscribe to Microsoft Office 365 the installer for the Office suite is also like this and so are many others.
The one difference between installers like most of the ones I mentioned above and the Jaws installer is that you can actually keep the Chrome installer or the Edge installer and if you run it a year from now on a new system it will still work and also download whatever is the latest version. For Jaws you still need to download a different setup program for the version of Jaws you want to install, but since it is only a bit over 40Mb, it only takes a few seconds on most fast internet connections nowadays and another nice thing is that you don't have to worry about 32 Bit and 64 Bit, the installer does both, looks at your system and knows which to install. The older installer was about 180 Mb, but it still downloaded the OCR component during the installation.
If for some reason you need a full installer or maybe you have a very slow internet connection where it's better to have everything downloaded to your computer first you can still download the entire DVD so to speak, it's I think something like a 500 or 600 Gb download and it is entirely meant to be run offline if needed.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 5:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

The reason is because they make major updates through the year now and would to keep sending out c d's for the updates.
They suggest downloading the update and then installing. Then saving the update on a thumb drive and do for each update through the year.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loreal Lavigna
Sent: October 30, 2019 4:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020
Importance: High

This is true. I do remember hearing on a podcast and later reading somewhere they would no longer be sending out CD/DVD discs with JAWS.

Sincerely,
Loreal Lavigna
General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist
Phone: (518)330-5188
E-Mail: LorealLavigna@gmail.com
Website: http://www.facebook.com/TranscriptsByLoreal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 7:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

They announced in one of the pod casts this summer updating jaws that they are not sending out c d's anymore.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: October 29, 2019 20:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Why don't you just download it, the fact is that even if they continue this in my opinion useless and wasteful tradition of mailing out DVD's, the version which will be current by the time you receive the DVD will already be newer than the original Jaws 2020.1910.54 release which you would get on the DVD.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 6:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

No, they no longer will mail out CD's.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Pearson" <dshawnpearson@suddenlink.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:22 PM
Subject: Jaws 2020


Hi list:

Will Vispero be mailing out this latest Jaws program release on cd,
and if yes, when should I expect to receive it?

Sincerely,



David S. Pearson



moderated Re: Plugins for Windows Media Player

Marty Hutchings
 

Hay all,  The comment about skins got me thinking, so I reinstalled Winamp on the laptop and set the skins to classic, which is what I had it set to on my desktop and what to you know, it works now.  JAWS reads the tracks in the play list as i up and down arrow through it and the cross-fading works after a little fiddling  with it.
Thanks for baring with me through this.
Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
 

Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: Plugins for Windows Media Player
 

His email said he was on Jaws 2019  and not Jaws 15 this end which should be completely unproblematic.

.

However I agree  that he should experiment with views/skins in Winamp.

If that does not work then Possibly uninstall Winamp completely and re-download from  http://ninite.com/ and try again with the tried and tested method.

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: JM Casey
Sent: 28 October 2019 22:58
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Plugins for Windows Media Player

 

Something is wrong if you cannot arrow through eh playlist editor. This works fine for me in Windows 10, using JFW. And as Winamp hasn’t been updated much since 2013 or so (except for that 5.8 beta version that was mysteriously released recently), JAWS 15 should really still do what you need. However, if you are on Windows 10 with JAWS 15, you may already be experiencing a whole host of problems.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: October 28, 2019 5:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Plugins for Windows Media Player

 

My daughter wants me to DJ for her 16 birthday this Saturday.  Her play list is completed.  I had planned to run the music from a Windows 10 laptop running JAWS 2019 and Winamp which allows cross fading of songs, but JAWS does not tell me which screen that I am in nor does it let me arrow up and down through the play list as it used to with Windows 7 on my desktop machine.  I decided to use Windows Media Player on the laptop which does let me arrow through the play list and reads the tracks, but no cross fading feature.  Is there a plugin for Windows Media Player that will do this for me?  I tried looking at the plugin download menu option through the player, but no joy.  Just sound enhancers for surround sound.

 


moderated Re: Jaws 2020

 

I for one am glad Vispero has finally left the 90's and early 2000's behind and does no longer send out what to many are useless pieces of plastic especially since in my case I haven't had a PC with a DVD drive for many years.
The Jaws installer has changed some time ago and it is now a fairly small setup program which means it does not contain all the files needed for installation, instead it will download what is required from the web.
This approach is used by more and more software companies, it's been this way with Adobe Acrobat Reader for a long time, Chrome and Microsoft Edge are both installed this way, if you subscribe to Microsoft Office 365 the installer for the Office suite is also like this and so are many others.
The one difference between installers like most of the ones I mentioned above and the Jaws installer is that you can actually keep the Chrome installer or the Edge installer and if you run it a year from now on a new system it will still work and also download whatever is the latest version. For Jaws you still need to download a different setup program for the version of Jaws you want to install, but since it is only a bit over 40Mb, it only takes a few seconds on most fast internet connections nowadays and another nice thing is that you don't have to worry about 32 Bit and 64 Bit, the installer does both, looks at your system and knows which to install. The older installer was about 180 Mb, but it still downloaded the OCR component during the installation.
If for some reason you need a full installer or maybe you have a very slow internet connection where it's better to have everything downloaded to your computer first you can still download the entire DVD so to speak, it's I think something like a 500 or 600 Gb download and it is entirely meant to be run offline if needed.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 5:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

The reason is because they make major updates through the year now and would to keep sending out c d's for the updates.
They suggest downloading the update and then installing. Then saving the update on a thumb drive and do for each update through the year.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loreal Lavigna
Sent: October 30, 2019 4:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020
Importance: High

This is true. I do remember hearing on a podcast and later reading somewhere they would no longer be sending out CD/DVD discs with JAWS.

Sincerely,
Loreal Lavigna
General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist
Phone: (518)330-5188
E-Mail: LorealLavigna@gmail.com
Website: http://www.facebook.com/TranscriptsByLoreal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 7:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

They announced in one of the pod casts this summer updating jaws that they are not sending out c d's anymore.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: October 29, 2019 20:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Why don't you just download it, the fact is that even if they continue this in my opinion useless and wasteful tradition of mailing out DVD's, the version which will be current by the time you receive the DVD will already be newer than the original Jaws 2020.1910.54 release which you would get on the DVD.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 6:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

No, they no longer will mail out CD's.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Pearson" <dshawnpearson@suddenlink.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:22 PM
Subject: Jaws 2020


Hi list:

Will Vispero be mailing out this latest Jaws program release on cd,
and if yes, when should I expect to receive it?

Sincerely,



David S. Pearson



moderated Re: Accessibility of Whatzapp's desktop app

george b <gbmagoo@...>
 

Hay bud;

 

From your desktop hit the windows key and type the name in the run box and hit enter

 

It takes you to the windows store and the desktop version is there

 

Is it cold in pasco??

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimsan via Groups.Io
Sent: October 30, 2019 8:12
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Whatzapp's desktop app

 

Where do I go to download the desktop app?

 

Best regards,

 

Kimsan Song

 

kimsansong@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ray T. Mahorney via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 3:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Whatzapp's desktop app

 

it appears to be barely accessible with Chrome and NVDA so I wouldn’t take any bets. In both cases on this machine, both NVDA and Chrome are current versions.

 

From: Sameer

Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 02:45

Subject: Accessibility of Whatzapp's desktop app

 

 

Dear List friends,

 

Is Whatzapp’s desktop app accessible with JAWS 2019?

 

Thanking all in advance for any & all assistance.

 

Regards

Mr. Sameer Latey
Mulund, Mumbai


moderated Re: Accessibility of Whatzapp's desktop app

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

Where do I go to download the desktop app?

 

Best regards,

 

Kimsan Song

 

kimsansong@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ray T. Mahorney via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 3:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Whatzapp's desktop app

 

it appears to be barely accessible with Chrome and NVDA so I wouldn’t take any bets. In both cases on this machine, both NVDA and Chrome are current versions.

 

From: Sameer

Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 02:45

Subject: Accessibility of Whatzapp's desktop app

 

 

Dear List friends,

 

Is Whatzapp’s desktop app accessible with JAWS 2019?

 

Thanking all in advance for any & all assistance.

 

Regards

Mr. Sameer Latey
Mulund, Mumbai


moderated Shortcut keys issue resolved in Jaws2020

Richard Turner
 

For those who may remember, Jaws 2019 prevented me from using my desktop shortcut keys that I had defined that worked perfectly prior to Jaws2019.  Things like control+alt+w to open word.

Jaws2020 has resolved that issue, which was fairly unique to a few systems; mine included.

Now, all my old shortcut keys work perfectly.

 

I will also say that Jaws2020 seems more responsive.

 

Later,

 

Richard

 

🖖 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 


moderated Re: Jaws 2020

george b <gbmagoo@...>
 

The reason is because they make major updates through the year now and would
to keep sending out c d's for the updates.
They suggest downloading the update and then installing. Then saving the
update on a thumb drive and do for each update through the year.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loreal Lavigna
Sent: October 30, 2019 4:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020
Importance: High

This is true. I do remember hearing on a podcast and later reading
somewhere they would no longer be sending out CD/DVD discs with JAWS.

Sincerely,
Loreal Lavigna
General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist
Phone: (518)330-5188
E-Mail: LorealLavigna@gmail.com
Website: http://www.facebook.com/TranscriptsByLoreal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 7:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

They announced in one of the pod casts this summer updating jaws that they
are not sending out c d's anymore.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: October 29, 2019 20:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Why don't you just download it, the fact is that even if they continue this
in my opinion useless and wasteful tradition of mailing out DVD's, the
version which will be current by the time you receive the DVD will already
be newer than the original Jaws 2020.1910.54 release which you would get on
the DVD.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 6:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

No, they no longer will mail out CD's.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Pearson" <dshawnpearson@suddenlink.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:22 PM
Subject: Jaws 2020


Hi list:

Will Vispero be mailing out this latest Jaws program release on cd,
and if yes, when should I expect to receive it?

Sincerely,



David S. Pearson



moderated Re: Jaws 2020

Rick Mladek
 

Is the 2020 version talked about the beta or full release version? Should they not be sending out email notifications directly to inform users and not have us find about the versions released through these types lists?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of mattias
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 7:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

correct

On 2019-10-30 12:54, Loreal Lavigna wrote:
This is true. I do remember hearing on a podcast and later reading
somewhere they would no longer be sending out CD/DVD discs with JAWS.

Sincerely,
Loreal Lavigna
General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist
Phone: (518)330-5188
E-Mail: LorealLavigna@gmail.com
Website: http://www.facebook.com/TranscriptsByLoreal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 7:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

They announced in one of the pod casts this summer updating jaws that
they are not sending out c d's anymore.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: October 29, 2019 20:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Why don't you just download it, the fact is that even if they continue
this in my opinion useless and wasteful tradition of mailing out
DVD's, the version which will be current by the time you receive the
DVD will already be newer than the original Jaws 2020.1910.54 release
which you would get on the DVD.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 6:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

No, they no longer will mail out CD's.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Pearson" <dshawnpearson@suddenlink.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:22 PM
Subject: Jaws 2020


Hi list:

Will Vispero be mailing out this latest Jaws program release on cd,
and if yes, when should I expect to receive it?

Sincerely,



David S. Pearson















moderated Re: Jaws 2020

mattias
 

correct

On 2019-10-30 12:54, Loreal Lavigna wrote:
This is true. I do remember hearing on a podcast and later reading
somewhere they would no longer be sending out CD/DVD discs with JAWS.

Sincerely,
Loreal Lavigna
General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist
Phone: (518)330-5188
E-Mail: LorealLavigna@gmail.com
Website: http://www.facebook.com/TranscriptsByLoreal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 7:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

They announced in one of the pod casts this summer updating jaws that they
are not sending out c d's anymore.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: October 29, 2019 20:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Why don't you just download it, the fact is that even if they continue this
in my opinion useless and wasteful tradition of mailing out DVD's, the
version which will be current by the time you receive the DVD will already
be newer than the original Jaws 2020.1910.54 release which you would get on
the DVD.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 6:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

No, they no longer will mail out CD's.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Pearson" <dshawnpearson@suddenlink.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:22 PM
Subject: Jaws 2020


Hi list:

Will Vispero be mailing out this latest Jaws program release on cd, and
if yes, when should I expect to receive it?

Sincerely,



David S. Pearson














moderated Re: Jaws 2020

Loreal Lavigna
 

This is true. I do remember hearing on a podcast and later reading
somewhere they would no longer be sending out CD/DVD discs with JAWS.

Sincerely,
Loreal Lavigna
General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist
Phone: (518)330-5188
E-Mail: LorealLavigna@gmail.com
Website: http://www.facebook.com/TranscriptsByLoreal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 7:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

They announced in one of the pod casts this summer updating jaws that they
are not sending out c d's anymore.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: October 29, 2019 20:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Why don't you just download it, the fact is that even if they continue this
in my opinion useless and wasteful tradition of mailing out DVD's, the
version which will be current by the time you receive the DVD will already
be newer than the original Jaws 2020.1910.54 release which you would get on
the DVD.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 6:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

No, they no longer will mail out CD's.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Pearson" <dshawnpearson@suddenlink.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:22 PM
Subject: Jaws 2020


Hi list:

Will Vispero be mailing out this latest Jaws program release on cd, and
if yes, when should I expect to receive it?

Sincerely,



David S. Pearson



moderated Re: Jaws 2020

george b <gbmagoo@...>
 

They announced in one of the pod casts this summer updating jaws that they
are not sending out c d's anymore.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: October 29, 2019 20:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Why don't you just download it, the fact is that even if they continue this
in my opinion useless and wasteful tradition of mailing out DVD's, the
version which will be current by the time you receive the DVD will already
be newer than the original Jaws 2020.1910.54 release which you would get on
the DVD.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 6:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

No, they no longer will mail out CD's.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Pearson" <dshawnpearson@suddenlink.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:22 PM
Subject: Jaws 2020


Hi list:

Will Vispero be mailing out this latest Jaws program release on cd, and
if yes, when should I expect to receive it?

Sincerely,



David S. Pearson



moderated Re: [External] J2020.1910.54.400 Download Link + What's New

David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

I'll admit that I was one of those users who was initially disappointed at what I perceived as a minor update without the earthshaking large feature set I was hoping to see in the initial 2020 release. However, I thought better of it when I considered what we experienced with the 2019 release cycle. The initial 2019 update also didn't contain a huge amount of new features but we certainly saw that new features were added over time during the 2019 update cycle, such as the picture smart feature. I know that JAWS users are used to massive feature updates when the new release is launched, followed by a series of minor maintenance updates during the year. What I think we're seeing are features which roll out over time, rather than one big update containing 25 brand new features all at once. This is what Microsoft does with Office and I'm fine with that. It's also better for users. Think of Apple which tends to cram in a ton of new features with each major iOS release, which often means that we have a ton of bugs to deal with which then needs to be addressed. I imagine that features being incrementally added throughout the year is easier both on developers as well as users. We should think of JAWS the way we think of other software in that we should expect features to roll out over time rather than expecting a massive release with lots of features once a year.


David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified: 2019 WWW.David-Goldfield.Com

On 10/29/2019 11:45 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

This is the first release of Jaws 2020 and the performance in some of my older legacy applications which I need all day long in my business is already like night and day. You may think Jaws 2020 is not worth an SMA, but the fact is that if you are now on Jaws 2019 and don’t have an upgrade left and wait until next year, you instantly use up your SMA because it is always sfor 2 major versions, so if you want Jaws 2021 next year you need to buy an SMA which covers Jaws 2020 and Jaws 2021. It really is one of the situations where you may as well keep your SMA current and take advantage of whatever new features are available as well as simple under the hood fixes and performance improvements. I am not sure what “something big” is supposed to be and why some people seem to think that whether it’s Jaws or the iPhone, every year some incredible, shocking new thing has to happen. These are all mature technologies and while from time to time some really great new feature comes along, for the most part the improvements will be evolutionary and not revolutionary.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cook, Steve
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 12:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: [External] J2020.1910.54.400 Download Link + What's New

 

The features they are upgrading in JAWS 2020 is not worth a SMA in my opinion.  I really hope they have something big coming out in the future!

 

Steve

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 12:48 PM
To: JFW List <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: [External] J2020.1910.54.400 Download Link + What's New

 

Hi All,

 

Below is the download link for the stable release of J2020.1910.54.400 + what's new in J2020.

 


32 & 64 bit download link:

 

 

What's new in J2020:

 

 What's New in JAWS 2020 Screen Reading Software
JAWS 2020

 

Features
 JAWS 2020 Features
Reduced Double Speaking of Form Control Prompts

 

When navigating and filling out forms on the web, it has become increasingly common for web page authors to include the prompt inside the control in addition
to assigning an accessible Tag for the control. While non-screen reader users only see the written prompt, those using a screen reader are getting both
the Prompt and accessible Tag in Speech as well as Braille if a display is in use. Often times, the web page author has assigned the same text for each,
so it appears the screen reader is double speaking. In JAWS 2020, we have greatly reduced the amount of double speaking of form controls as you navigate
using speech and Braille by comparing the prompt and these tags, and only speaking or brailling them both if they are different.

 

Zoom Meeting Scripts Added for an Improved Experience

 

Thanks to Hartgen Consulting, basic scripts for Zoom are now included directly in JAWS and Fusion to improve the experience when attending Zoom Meetings.
This platform is used for our quarterly FS Open Line program as well as the free training webinars we hold each month. These scripts offer a more pleasant
experience by giving more control over what you hear, without interrupting the flow as users enter or leave the room or make comments. Press INSERT+H to
view a list of JAWS keystrokes available in Zoom such as turning off alerts, speaking recent chat messages, and more. You can also press INSERT+W to view
a list of Zoom hot keys.

 

Hartgen Consultancy
 also offers more advanced scripts for Zoom Pro if you are interested.

 

Enhanced JAWS and Invisible Cursor Support for Windows 10 Universal Apps

 

For years, JAWS users have relied on the JAWS cursor (NUM PAD MINUS) and Invisible cursor (NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly) to review and interact with areas
in an application where the PC cursor cannot go. This includes reading textual information which is on-screen but not focusable, and interacting with controls
which are only accessible using a mouse as the mouse pointer will follow the JAWS cursor and NUM PAD SLASH and NUM PAD STAR will perform a left and right
click. However, the Off-Screen Model (OSM) which has traditionally been used to support the JAWS and Invisible cursors is becoming less and less available
as newer technology such as UIA, found especially in Windows universal apps like the calculator or the Windows Store, is now being used exclusively for
accessing screen content. This results in the JAWS and Invisible cursors becoming unusable when attempting to navigate in those windows. All you would
hear in those cases was "blank" as you reviewed the screen. This is because the modern technology currently in use is not able to be captured by the traditional
Off-Screen Model. In those cases, the only solution was using the Touch Cursor, something most users are not as familiar with.

 

JAWS 2020 now detects when focus is in an application where the OSM is not supported and will automatically use the new JAWS Scan cursor in these situations.
You will use all of the same navigation commands as you would with the traditional JAWS cursor or the Invisible cursors.

 

For example, if you open the Calculator or Windows Store in JAWS 2020 and press NUM PAD MINUS, you will now hear JAWS announce "JAWS Scan Cursor" as these
are apps that do not support the OSM. You can then use the ARROW keys like you always have done to move by character, word, line, as well as INSERT+UP
ARROW to read the current line, or PAGE UP, PAGE DOWN, HOME, and END. The mouse pointer will also continue to follow as it always has. The only difference
is that the cursor does not move from top to bottom or left to right. Instead, it moves by element the way the developer laid out the app.

 

While this works in many places, there are still some areas where more work by Freedom Scientific is required. For instance, if you use Office 365, and
try to read your Account version information with the JAWS cursor commands, it is still not possible to navigate and read in these places. That work is
underway and we plan to have an update for this area in the 2020 version soon. Stay tuned.

 

Convenient OCR Updated to Use the Latest OmniPage

 

The recognition engine used by the JAWS Convenient OCR feature has been updated to Kofax OmniPage 20, formerly owned by Nuance. This offers greater accuracy
when recognizing the text from on-screen images as well as text from images captured with a PEARL camera or scanner.

 

For users needing to OCR using Hebrew or Arabic, these languages are automatically installed with any English or Western European download of JAWS and
Fusion.

 

Virtual Cursor Toggle Now Tab Specific in Google Chrome

 

Today, there are many web apps where using the Virtual Cursor is not the best approach. An example of this can be seen if you use Gmail in the Chrome Browser.
In these cases, it makes sense to toggle the Virtual Cursor off by pressing INSERT+Z and then use this application with the PC cursor. Many users also
regularly open multiple tabs (CTRL+T) so they can easily access different sites such as GMail plus one or two other pages by moving between the open tabs
using CTRL+TAB. This can become frustrating as you need to constantly press INSERT+Z to get the right cursor in use as you switch between tabs.

 

Beginning with version 2020, we are introducing an option to help JAWS automatically remember the state of the Virtual Cursor for each tab once you set
it. It will also announce whether the Virtual Cursor is on or off as you move between various tabs. Once you close the browser, or restart JAWS, it will
default back to its default behavior so you will need to set this each day as you use it.

 

This feature is turned on by default. To toggle this option, do the following:

 

list of 5 items
1. Press INSERT+6 to open Settings Center.
2. Press CTRL+SHIFT+D to load the default file.
3. Type "Tab" in the search field.
4. Press DOWN ARROW until you locate "Virtual Cursor On/Off based on Browser Tabs."
5. Press the SPACEBAR to change the option and then select OK.
list end

 

Contracted Braille Input Enhancements

 

For ElBraille users as well as those who regularly use a Braille display with their PC, JAWS 2020 offers significant improvements when typing in contracted
Braille. In particular:

 

list of 5 items
• You should now be able to enter and edit text in numbered and bulleted lists in Word, WordPad, Outlook, and Windows Mail.
• Contracted Braille input is now supported in more applications including PowerPoint and TextPad.
• Improved Contracted Braille input in WordPad, especially when editing a numbered or bulleted list created in Word and opened in Wordpad. This includes
properly handling wrapped items which previously showed the number or bullet on subsequent wrapped lines, rather than indenting the text.
• Improved Contracted Braille input in Chrome, Google docs, and other online editors which can create bulleted and numbered lists.
• Typing rapidly using Contracted Braille in Microsoft Office as well as other applications should no longer result in text becoming scrambled.
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Updated JAWS Basic Training

 

The JAWS Basic Training has been updated to include the latest features in JAWS 2020. There will still be the same nine books, however each book has been
reorganized to be more task oriented as well as simplified to apply to more people in more situations. For instance, in the JAWS User Interface and Utilities
book, we won't be trying to show everything in the UI as we did in the past. Instead, we point out the most important things and where to find them in
both the menus and in the Utilities folder. This makes it easier for teachers, instructors, IT professionals, etc. to get an overview of where to find
things quickly.

 

To update a book, do the following:

 

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1. Press INSERT+J to open the JAWS application window.
2. Press ALT+H to choose the Help menu, and then press ENTER to choose Training.
3. FSReader opens and displays the JAWS Training Table of Contents which contains links to all of the available DAISY training books. Use the ARROW keys
to navigate to the book you want to open and then press ENTER. If the book is not currently on your computer or an updated book is available, FSReader
will automatically download and install it.
4. Repeat this process for each book you want to download.
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Toggle JAWS Sounds in Speech On Demand

 

Introduced in JAWS and Fusion 2018, Speech On Demand allows you to limit the amount of JAWS speech you hear as you navigate windows and documents or perform
other actions using hot keys and is activated using a convenient layered keystroke (INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by S). For JAWS users who rely heavily on
Braille or for users of Fusion that can see well enough to use the screen for tracking focus, too much speech can be overwhelming while navigating using
the keyboard and mouse. By default, when using Speech On Demand, JAWS only announces actions for a limited set of screen reading keystrokes such as reading
the current character, word, line, window title, and so on. Windows navigation commands such as moving to the next or previous character, line, or word
do not speak. Refer to the Speech On Demand topic in the JAWS Help for a full list of commands that provide speech in this mode.

 

JAWS and Fusion 2020 now allow you to specify whether or not JAWS generated sounds are heard when Speech On Demand is active. JAWS sounds include the sound
heard when pressing INSERT+SPACEBAR to perform a layered keystroke as well as the sound heard when completing an address in Outlook. By default, JAWS sounds
will continue to be heard. If you do not want to hear JAWS sounds when Speech On Demand is active or when speech is completely muted, open Settings Center,
expand the Speech Options group, and clear the "Play JAWS Sounds" check box. You can customize other Speech On Demand settings in this group as well.

 

Filter Control Characters in Braille

 

Depending on the application you are using, control characters may be used to represent certain document elements like page breaks or line breaks. JAWS
now allows you to configure whether or not these control characters are shown on the Braille display. By default, JAWS does not output these control characters
in Braille to help provide a smoother reading experience. However, there may be times when having control characters displayed in Braille could be helpful
when editing text.

 

To display control characters in Braille, open Settings Center, expand Text Processing, expand, Proofing, and clear the "Filter Control Characters such
as Page Breaks" check box. Control characters will be displayed correctly for both Computer Braille and Contracted Braille output.

 

General Changes in Response to Customer Requests
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• While browsing the internet, JAWS will no longer announce "Clickable" by default as you move to various content.
• You should no longer hear the message "Press JAWS Key+ALT+R to hear descriptive text" as you navigate form controls and certain other elements on the
web.
• Removed extraneous "Insert F1 Help" announcements that were heard when navigating through various controls on the web.
• By default in Word and Outlook, JAWS will no longer announce "Alt SHIFT F10 to adjust Auto Correction" when you move to something that was auto corrected
previously.
• JAWS and Fusion will no longer gather and announce the count of all the objects, misspellings, grammatical errors, and so on when a document is opened
in Word. This will enable documents to load much faster, including very large documents containing a lot of these items. You can always press INSERT+F1
for an overview of what the document contains.
• Improved responsiveness when closing Word after saving a document.
• The AutoCorrect Detection option, previously only available in the Quick Settings for Word, can now also be changed in the Quick Settings for Outlook
(INSERT+V).
• Pressing INSERT+W while focused in PowerPoint now displays a list of useful PowerPoint hot keys.
• In Google Docs, JAWS now announces the currently selected menu when you activate a menu or use LEFT and RIGHT ARROW to move between menus. In addition,
if a document contains lists, JAWS now indicates list item markers such as "1, 2, 3."
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Updated BraillePen Display Driver

 

Added an updated driver from Harpo in Poland to support their New BraillePen 14 Braille device in addition to the previously supported BraillePen 12T.
Now, all models are supported by this driver.

 

Improved JAWS and Fusion Installation for Multi-Lingual Computers and Applications

 

When performing a full installation of JAWS or Fusion 2020 on computers offering multiple languages for Windows or specific applications like Office, you
now have the opportunity to install additional JAWS languages to match the available operating system or application languages. This makes it more convenient
for agencies and other groups using multi-lingual systems as they can easily switch the JAWS user interface language to match the current operating system
language without having to uninstall and install a different version of JAWS.

 

On the main setup screen, choose the Options button to display a list of available JAWS languages for installation. Use the SPACEBAR to select the languages
you want to install and then select OK to continue. Once JAWS is installed, Use the Language menu in the JAWS application window to switch between languages.
Before switching the JAWS language, make sure you have configured Windows to use the matching language. Otherwise, JAWS keystrokes and other features may
not work as expected.

 

Note: This is not recommended for users who just want to read web pages or documents in a secondary language. For these users, you only need to install
additional voices for that language and allow JAWS or Fusion to switch automatically. Changing the User Interface of JAWS to a language other than that
of the Operating System will create problems trying to navigate and work with applications in the primary language.

 

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moderated Re: Accessibility of Whatzapp's desktop app

Ray T. Mahorney
 

it appears to be barely accessible with Chrome and NVDA so I wouldn’t take any bets. In both cases on this machine, both NVDA and Chrome are current versions.
 

From: Sameer
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 02:45
Subject: Accessibility of Whatzapp's desktop app
 
 
Dear List friends,
 
Is Whatzapp’s desktop app accessible with JAWS 2019?
 
Thanking all in advance for any & all assistance.
 
Regards
Mr. Sameer Latey
Mulund, Mumbai

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