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moderated FW: Web AIM survey

Kevin Meyers <kevinmeyers@...>
 

 

Hello,

 

The link below is for a survey to provide information on issues we encounter with web sites. Please fill out the survey if you already haven’t.

 

Cheers,

 

Kevin Meyers

 

From: Kevin Meyers <kevinmeyers@...>
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 9:18 AM
To: 'Troy Hergert' <thergert@...>; 'Cory Ballard' <cballard@...>
Subject: FW: Web AIM survey

 

 

Hello guys,

 

Not sure if you got the email about this survey. Thought I would forwarded to you in case you didn’t.

 

Thanks,

 

Kevin Meyers

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 12:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Web AIM survey

 

The Web AIM survey is here and it guides policy and web development so please take the time to fill it out:

https://webaim.org/projects/screenreadersurvey8/


moderated Re: I haven't gotten a subscribe confirmation from groups.io yet.

Mario
 

email addresses, like website addresses, are always typed in lower case
and with no spaces from beginning to the end, unless specified, which is
very rare.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Kevin Minor [mailto:kminor65@outlook.com]
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Saturday, August 3, 2019, 9:54 PM
Subject: I haven't gotten a subscribe confirmation from groups.io yet.

Hi.

I never knew email addresses were case sensitive, but this time when I
submitted my subscribe message I got the message almost immediately back
to confirm that I wanted to be subscribed. I replied to it, but I still
haven't received a welcome message. That was over an hour ago. I
resubmitted the request, and I still haven't heard anything. My guess
is a mod needs to approve the request, so hopefully I'll find a message
in my inbox tomorrow.

Just letting you all know my luck.

Thanks for the help.
Kevin and Jilly


moderated Re: I can't subscribe to the Braille User's list.

Kevin Minor
 

Hi Brian.

 

Thanks for confirming what I suspected.  I’ll wait until I’m approved.

 

Kevin and Jilly

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2019 11:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: I can't subscribe to the Braille User's list.

 

By the way, the Braille Display User's group home page explicitly states:

           Subscriptions to this group require approval from the moderators.

under its Group Settings section.   This means that subscriptions will wait until a moderator or the group owner clears them, so don't expect a "virtually instant" response saying you're subscribed to the group when you send a subscription request e-mail.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.

         ~ Eric Hoffer


moderated Re: I can't subscribe to the Braille User's list.

 

By the way, the Braille Display User's group home page explicitly states:

           Subscriptions to this group require approval from the moderators.

under its Group Settings section.   This means that subscriptions will wait until a moderator or the group owner clears them, so don't expect a "virtually instant" response saying you're subscribed to the group when you send a subscription request e-mail.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.

         ~ Eric Hoffer


moderated Re: I can't subscribe to the Braille User's list.

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Actually, I don’t think the problem was a case sensitivity issue. the first incorrect address was given as:

 

braille-displays-users+subscribe@groups.io

 

The correct address is:

 

braille-display-users+subscribe@groups.io

 

As you can see, display does not have an S at the end, and that was what was gumming up the works.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2019 7:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: I can't subscribe to the Braille User's list.

 

Huh..ok, sorry about that. I was typing the address from memory.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: August 3, 2019 8:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: I can't subscribe to the Braille User's list.

 

Apparently, the subscription address is case sensitive. I tried using the link that was sent and got a bounce.

 

HTH,

 

Richard

 

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." 

(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)

 

 

On Aug 3, 2019, at 5:18 PM, Kevin Minor <kminor65@...> wrote:



Hi.

 

I tried to subscribe to the braille user’s email list using the link someone gave.  I got an undeliverable message.  What do I do?  I’d like to get on the list.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Kevin and Jilly


moderated Re: I can't subscribe to the Braille User's list.

JM Casey
 

Huh..ok, sorry about that. I was typing the address from memory.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: August 3, 2019 8:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: I can't subscribe to the Braille User's list.

 

Apparently, the subscription address is case sensitive. I tried using the link that was sent and got a bounce.

 

HTH,

 

Richard

 

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." 

(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)

 



On Aug 3, 2019, at 5:18 PM, Kevin Minor <kminor65@...> wrote:



Hi.

 

I tried to subscribe to the braille user’s email list using the link someone gave.  I got an undeliverable message.  What do I do?  I’d like to get on the list.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Kevin and Jilly


moderated I haven't gotten a subscribe confirmation from groups.io yet.

Kevin Minor
 

Hi.

 

I never knew email addresses were case sensitive, but this time when I submitted my subscribe message I got the message almost immediately back to confirm that I wanted to be subscribed.  I replied to it, but I still haven’t received a welcome message.  That was over an hour ago.  I resubmitted the request, and I still haven’t heard anything.  My guess is a mod needs to approve the request, so hopefully I’ll find a message in my inbox tomorrow.

 

Just letting you all know my luck.

 

Thanks for the help.

Kevin and Jilly


moderated Re: I have some questions concerning using a braille display with JAWS, specifically the Focus Blue 40 5th Gen, and want to know of other braille display lists out there.

Milton Ota <mota1252@...>
 

You can join a braille display users listserv by subscribing to the following e-mail address:

braille-display-users-request@groups.io


Original message:

Hi.
It’s me again. I’m finally getting the Focus 40 Blue 5th Generation display this coming week, and I have some very basic questions.
First, where can I get a refreshable braille display for dummies tutorial? I don’t think this necessarily deals with the Focus itself. I have used one over ten years ago, but I did very basic things with it, and I’d like to learn more advanced tricks for using one. I know JAWS has some documentation in the help topics, but I don’t know if that’s as simple as I need.
My second question concerns email lists for braille displays in general. Many of the questions I have are more Focus specific rather than JAWS, so I figure that there are other braille display lists out there that can give me good information. If there are web sites as well, I would like to learn about them. I know I can read the user’s manual, but I’m just wondering if there are some helpful hints that I could learn.
Those are my questions. I can’t wait until I get the Focus and pair it with my iPhone and PC and use it. I’m also looking forward to using it by itself to take notes and read books. I feel like a kid at Christmas, and I’ll just have to patiently wait for it to come.
Thanks in advance for any help.
Have a blessed day, and don’t work too hard.
Kevin and Jilly


moderated Re: I can't subscribe to the Braille User's list.

 

That's one of the advantages of learning at least the rudiments of the Groups.io website.  It makes it very easy to use the "Find or Create a Group" function at the top of every page.   The addresses for the Braille Display Users Group are


which has been active up through earlier this evening.

There is also a group dedicated strictly to the BrailleMe  (which hasn't seen any fresh activity since December 2018):


--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.

         ~ Eric Hoffer


moderated Re: I can't subscribe to the Braille User's list.

Joseph Hudson
 

Yeah I've heard about braille note users list, but I haven't heard about braille users list yet is that the one that you're referring to?

On Aug 3, 2019, at 7:18 PM, Kevin Minor <kminor65@outlook.com> wrote:

Hi.

I tried to subscribe to the braille user’s email list using the link someone gave. I got an undeliverable message. What do I do? I’d like to get on the list.

Thanks in advance.

Kevin and Jilly


moderated Re: I can't subscribe to the Braille User's list.

Richard Turner
 

Apparently, the subscription address is case sensitive. I tried using the link that was sent and got a bounce.
try braille-display-users+subscribe@groups.io

HTH,


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." 
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
www.turner42.com
 

On Aug 3, 2019, at 5:18 PM, Kevin Minor <kminor65@...> wrote:



Hi.

 

I tried to subscribe to the braille user’s email list using the link someone gave.  I got an undeliverable message.  What do I do?  I’d like to get on the list.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Kevin and Jilly


moderated I can't subscribe to the Braille User's list.

Kevin Minor
 

Hi.

 

I tried to subscribe to the braille user’s email list using the link someone gave.  I got an undeliverable message.  What do I do?  I’d like to get on the list.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Kevin and Jilly


moderated Re: I have some questions concerning using a braille display with JAWS, specifically the Focus Blue 40 5th Gen, and want to know of other braille display lists out there.

David Csercsics <bleeblat@...>
 

Yes, I have found scant information on braille as well, though I have a Brailliant BI 40 as I prefer to use braille rather than speech myself, but I mostly use it with NVDA and the braille Extender add-on as JAWS does braille differently, and I haven't worked out if it's better or not. The JAWS documentation for Freedom Scientific displays is good, but not so much for other manufacturers. I found that for Brailliant BI 40, there was an error where it said in HumanWare's documentation that you could press the combination space with the letter d on the brailliant's braille keyboard for delete, and it would delete. I found it didn't work out of the box, and when I checked JAWS keyboard manager, the "delete" script was not assigned to a key. So I fixed it. Not sure whose bug this is, but getting braille to work in JAWS with something other than a Freedom Scientific product is a few extra steps. I'll join that braille list as well, and see if we can get some extra information. I think this stuff is just not tested as well as speech, and that's a shame, because typically those of us who use braille prefer it. But maybe we could better document what works with what program and what doesn't.


moderated Re: I have some questions concerning using a braille display with JAWS, specifically the Focus Blue 40 5th Gen, and want to know of other braille display lists out there.

JM Casey
 

HI.

 

Information about using braille displays seems thin on the ground, perhaps because it’s such a niche thing.

I have recently come into possession of a Focus 40 (not 5th gen) and a Brailliant 80 braille display, and, like you, have only had quick ‘n’ dirty experience with using a braille display and JAWS /connected to PC until now, at least since the old Dos days.

I have not found any tutorials to speak of, and not sure you’ll have any better luck, but if you do, I’d be a little curious to see what others have to say. Best you can probably do is ask questions, like you are doing now, and see what others say. What I have found is that braille + PC is a unique experience that is going to be tailored to individual user preferences. So, best thing you can probably do on your own is read all the documentation, and then experiment, and see what you like. While there doesn’t seem to be a ton of information out there, everything is very configurable. And the JAWS documentation is pretty easy to understand.

 

There is a braille display users list:

Braille-displays-users+subscribe@groups.io

There seem to be a lot of Focus users there.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: August 3, 2019 1:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: I have some questions concerning using a braille display with JAWS, specifically the Focus Blue 40 5th Gen, and want to know of other braille display lists out there.

 

Hi.

 

It’s me again.  I’m finally getting the Focus 40 Blue 5th Generation display this coming week, and I have some very basic questions.

 

First, where can I get a refreshable braille display for dummies tutorial?  I don’t think this necessarily deals with the Focus itself.  I have used one over ten years ago, but I did very basic things with it, and I’d like to learn more advanced tricks for using one.  I know JAWS has some documentation in the help topics, but I don’t know if that’s as simple as I need.

 

My second question concerns email lists for braille displays in general.  Many of the questions I have are more Focus specific rather than JAWS, so I figure that there are other braille display lists out there that can give me good information.  If there are web sites as well, I would like to learn about them.  I know I can read the user’s manual, but I’m just wondering if there are some helpful hints that I could learn.

 

Those are my questions.  I can’t wait until I get the Focus and pair it with my iPhone and PC and use it.  I’m also looking forward to using it by itself to take notes and read books.  I feel like a kid at Christmas, and I’ll just have to patiently wait for it to come.

 

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

Have a blessed day, and don’t work too hard.

Kevin and Jilly


moderated I have some questions concerning using a braille display with JAWS, specifically the Focus Blue 40 5th Gen, and want to know of other braille display lists out there.

Kevin Minor
 

Hi.

 

It’s me again.  I’m finally getting the Focus 40 Blue 5th Generation display this coming week, and I have some very basic questions.

 

First, where can I get a refreshable braille display for dummies tutorial?  I don’t think this necessarily deals with the Focus itself.  I have used one over ten years ago, but I did very basic things with it, and I’d like to learn more advanced tricks for using one.  I know JAWS has some documentation in the help topics, but I don’t know if that’s as simple as I need.

 

My second question concerns email lists for braille displays in general.  Many of the questions I have are more Focus specific rather than JAWS, so I figure that there are other braille display lists out there that can give me good information.  If there are web sites as well, I would like to learn about them.  I know I can read the user’s manual, but I’m just wondering if there are some helpful hints that I could learn.

 

Those are my questions.  I can’t wait until I get the Focus and pair it with my iPhone and PC and use it.  I’m also looking forward to using it by itself to take notes and read books.  I feel like a kid at Christmas, and I’ll just have to patiently wait for it to come.

 

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

Have a blessed day, and don’t work too hard.

Kevin and Jilly


moderated Re: Jaws2019 Font size Addison here

O.Addison Gethers
 

Thank you and others

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ashleigh Piccinino
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2019 9:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws2019 Font size Addison here

 

If you’re using JAWS, please press CTRL and d. This is after you’re in your document, and, to me, it’s the fastest way to get to your fonts. After pressing the hotkey, tab over until JAWS says size and down-arrow. Choose the size you want after the size menu is opened with the down-arrow. Note: JAWS won’t say anything when the menu is opened. However, it will probably speak the sizes. Also, if you’re using the latest version of JAWS 2019, you might not be able to easily check your font information with insert f on the fly. However, I hope this works for you.

Ashleigh Piccinino  


On Aug 2, 2019, at 1:38 PM, O.Addison Gethers <o.addisongethers@...> wrote:

Hello All  I thought I did saved the instruction for font size but I didn’t  Can anybody tell me how to do font size in document please ?

Addison


moderated Re: Jaws2019 Font size Addison here

Ashleigh Piccinino
 

If you’re using JAWS, please press CTRL and d. This is after you’re in your document, and, to me, it’s the fastest way to get to your fonts. After pressing the hotkey, tab over until JAWS says size and down-arrow. Choose the size you want after the size menu is opened with the down-arrow. Note: JAWS won’t say anything when the menu is opened. However, it will probably speak the sizes. Also, if you’re using the latest version of JAWS 2019, you might not be able to easily check your font information with insert f on the fly. However, I hope this works for you.
Ashleigh Piccinino  


On Aug 2, 2019, at 1:38 PM, O.Addison Gethers <o.addisongethers@...> wrote:

Hello All  I thought I did saved the instruction for font size but I didn’t  Can anybody tell me how to do font size in document please ?

Addison


moderated Re: Finding the toolbar in Chrome

 

On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 07:28 PM, Tony Guy wrote:
You press f6, which takes you to the address bar, then press tab and
you will see the toolbar buttons.
This is fascinating because it only works if you use F6 to get focus thrown to the address bar/omnibox.

If you use ALT+D to do so using TAB afterward behaves differently.

I am glad to know of a technique that allows "entry from the left" in addition to "entry from the right" since if you have quite a few buttons it can be significantly faster to get to those near to the ends if you enter from the end near which they're positioned.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.

         ~ Eric Hoffer


moderated Re: Finding the toolbar in Chrome

Tony Guy
 

You press f6, which takes you to the address bar, then press tab and
you will see the toolbar buttons.

On 7/30/19, clarence carter via Groups.Io <clarcar=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:
Is there a keystroke which will direct JAWS to the toolbar? I have run into
the additional tools in the menues but II cannot get to the toolbar.







moderated Re: Jaws2019 Font size Addison here

Madano Lanberto
 

Control Shift P
Then arrow to desired size e.g. 11, 12, 14 and press Enter.

On 2 August 2019 7:38:20 p.m. "O.Addison Gethers" <o.addisongethers@...> wrote:

Hello All  I thought I did saved the instruction for font size but I didn’t  Can anybody tell me how to do font size in document please ?

Addison

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