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Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

Bill White
 

Hi, Maria. In order for me to do that, I would have to plug in my external CD drive. There is none built into my computer. Most of the laptops, now do not include an internal CD drive.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 11:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

The way I check on my laptop is to try opening my dvd drive. If it
opens, laptop is still on; if not ...



Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...

Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
~ Blaise Pascal ~

On 11/24/2018 2:14 PM, mike mcglashon wrote:
Good idea marty:
However,
I know of an easier way to tell if comp is on/off;
When listening to turn it off,
Just put your ear on comp,
When you no longer hear the motor whirring,
Then it is off;
Likewise,
When turning it on,
After pushing button,
Put ear next to comp and listen for motor to start up;


Mike mcglashon
Email: Michael.mcglashon@...
Ph: 618 783 9331

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 2:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

Tom and others, I have a very low tech way of knowing if your machine is completely shut down or not. I love listening to the Chicago Bears football games on a small transister radio, remember those? I listen on AM 780 WBBM.
When my computer is on, there is a loud high pitch squeel on the radio.
This goes away the minute the computer shuts down. Just keep a small AM radio near your computer. Turn it on before shutting down and wait for the radio signal to clear up and then you know that your computer is completely off.



Love in Christ
Marty
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 10:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

Very interesting, Sieghard.

I guess I can live without the shutdown sound, and figure out other ways to determine whether my computer has indeed shut down.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 11:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

That has been discussed a few times on the list. There is no simple checkbox to turn on the shutdown sound, you have to create an elevated task using the Task Manager to do this. I did quite a long time ago and it was not very reliable, but since the 1809 update which I happened to get in early October before it was pulled, the shutdown sound is I think consistent on my laptop.
I should say that I did not bother to do this on my work desktops. As was mentioned in previous discussions, hearing the shutdown sound is not a 100% guaranty the computer has in fact shut down. I had it a few times when I thought I shut down my laptop in the morning only to find when I cam ehome at night that it was not shut down because something had blocked the shutdown, the sound played, but then the computer didn't shut down.
I believe there is also a way to do this in the registry with one of these registry hacks one can download.


Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 8:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

And, if anyone knows how to turn on a sound when your computer shuts down, that would be appreciated.

I found the startup sound, but can't find the shut-down sound.

Right now, I don't have a good way to tell that my new Windows 10 computer has completely shut down.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 3:14 AM
To: main <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: A question about system sounds in windows 10

Hi all,

On my new windows 10 laptop, I would like to set up a few system sounds associated with certain events. For example, under windows 7, I used to hear a ding when my cursor encountered the top or bottom of the current window. Also, I used to hear a sound when a download completed. Although I've found the system sounds in settings and reviewed the list of program events, I can't figure out how to set these sounds. Can anyone help?

Thanks in advance.

Kim

--
Kimberly





















Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

Bill White
 

Hi, Mike. Listening for the motor doesn't do any good if the computer has a solid state drive. Often the fan motor is not on, and in this case, there is no disk spinning to hear.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of mike mcglashon
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 11:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

Good idea marty:
However,
I know of an easier way to tell if comp is on/off;
When listening to turn it off,
Just put your ear on comp,
When you no longer hear the motor whirring,
Then it is off;
Likewise,
When turning it on,
After pushing button,
Put ear next to comp and listen for motor to start up;


Mike mcglashon
Email: Michael.mcglashon@...
Ph: 618 783 9331

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 2:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

Tom and others, I have a very low tech way of knowing if your machine is completely shut down or not. I love listening to the Chicago Bears football games on a small transister radio, remember those? I listen on AM 780 WBBM.
When my computer is on, there is a loud high pitch squeel on the radio.
This goes away the minute the computer shuts down. Just keep a small AM radio near your computer. Turn it on before shutting down and wait for the radio signal to clear up and then you know that your computer is completely off.



Love in Christ
Marty
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 10:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

Very interesting, Sieghard.

I guess I can live without the shutdown sound, and figure out other ways to determine whether my computer has indeed shut down.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 11:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

That has been discussed a few times on the list. There is no simple checkbox to turn on the shutdown sound, you have to create an elevated task using the Task Manager to do this. I did quite a long time ago and it was not very reliable, but since the 1809 update which I happened to get in early October before it was pulled, the shutdown sound is I think consistent on my laptop.
I should say that I did not bother to do this on my work desktops. As was mentioned in previous discussions, hearing the shutdown sound is not a 100% guaranty the computer has in fact shut down. I had it a few times when I thought I shut down my laptop in the morning only to find when I cam ehome at night that it was not shut down because something had blocked the shutdown, the sound played, but then the computer didn't shut down.
I believe there is also a way to do this in the registry with one of these registry hacks one can download.


Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 8:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

And, if anyone knows how to turn on a sound when your computer shuts down, that would be appreciated.

I found the startup sound, but can't find the shut-down sound.

Right now, I don't have a good way to tell that my new Windows 10 computer has completely shut down.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 3:14 AM
To: main <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: A question about system sounds in windows 10

Hi all,

On my new windows 10 laptop, I would like to set up a few system sounds associated with certain events. For example, under windows 7, I used to hear a ding when my cursor encountered the top or bottom of the current window. Also, I used to hear a sound when a download completed. Although I've found the system sounds in settings and reviewed the list of program events, I can't figure out how to set these sounds. Can anyone help?

Thanks in advance.

Kim

--
Kimberly


Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

Bill White
 

Hi, Tom. It wouldn't do you any good to call the Microsoft Accessibility line for the System Sounds in the registry. I called them, and they told me that if anyone must do anything to the registry, they refuse to do it, and will tell you that you need to have someone else, like a computer technician, or at least, another sighted person you can get to change the registry personally.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 11:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

Thanks, Richard, although I'm reluctant to start messing around in the registry.

I think that, if I really find that I just can't live without the shut-down sound, my best bet would be to call the Microsoft Accessibility hotline.

Why microsoft decided to hide those very basic sound controls is beyond me; but it is what it is, as they say.

Tom Behler




-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 1:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

I found a nice detailed article on how to do this in the registry, which does bring the options back to the control panel sounds scheme, but it had no impact on my system. I selected sounds for exit Windows, Windows logon and Windows logoff and no sound plays. I tried it both with Fast startup on and with it off.
But, if you want to try it out, it is rather easy.
Here is the complete text with the link to the page:
The following was copied from the How To Geek page: https://www.howtogeek.com/274010/how-to-change-the-windows-10-logoff-logon-and-shutdown-sounds-in-windows-10/

How to Change the Windows 10 Logoff, Logon, and Shutdown Sounds in Windows 10 Walter Glenn @wjglenn September 29, 2016, 11:23am EDT Before Windows 10 came along, we were free to change the sounds that played when we shut down, logged off, or logged on to Windows. For some reason, Microsoft hid those sound actions from being modified in Windows 10. Here’s how to get them back.
RELATED: How to Make Windows Play a Sound When You Press Caps Lock, Num Lock, or Scroll Lock Windows has always been pretty good about letting you customize every nook and cranny of the OS, including what sounds played for all kinds of different system events. You can even make Windows play a sound when you toggle your Caps Lock, Scroll Lock, and Num Lock keys. While you can still customize what sounds sounds play for most OS events, Windows 10 hid shut down, logoff, and logon from view. They’re still around, though. You just need to make a few mild changes in the Windows Registry to get them back.
Add the Actions Back to the Sound Control Panel by Editing the Registry To add the shutdown, logoff, and logon actions back to the menu in the Sound Control Panel app, you just need to make a few little tweaks in the Windows Registry.
Standard warning: Registry Editor is a powerful tool and misusing it can render your system unstable or even inoperable. This is a pretty simple hack and as long as you stick to the instructions, you shouldn’t have any problems. That said, if you’ve never worked with it before, consider reading about how to use the Registry Editor before you get started. And definitely back up the Registry (and your computer!) before making changes.
Open the Registry Editor by hitting Start and typing “regedit.” Press Enter to open Registry Editor and then give it permission to make changes to your PC.

In the Registry Editor, use the left sidebar to navigate to the following key:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\AppEvents\EventLabels

You’re going to be making one small change in each of three different subkeys inside that EventLabels key. First, we’ll tackle the shutdown sound or, as Windows likes to call it, System Exit. Under the EventLabels key on the left side of Registry Editor, select the SystemExit subkey. On the right side, double-click the ExcludeFromCPL value.

Note that by default, the value is 1, meaning that the action is excluded from the Control Panel. Change the value to 0 and then click “OK.”

Next, you’re going to make exactly the same change in two other subkeys inside the EventLabels key: WindowsLogoff and WindowsLogon . Head into each of those folders, open the ExcludeFromCPL value inside, and change the value from 1 to 0.

No need to restart Windows. You can go ahead and test your changes right away. Open up the Sound Control Panel app by right-clicking the speaker icon in your Notification Area and selecting “Sounds.”

You should now see the new actions (Exit Windows, Windows Logoff, and Windows Logon) available in the selection window and you can assign whatever sounds you like to those actions.

If, for whatever reason, you want to hide those actions from the Control Panel again, just head back into Registry Editor and change each of those ExcludeFromCPL values back to 1.
Download Our One-Click Registry Hacks

If you don’t feel like diving into the Registry yourself, we’ve created some registry hacks you can use. Download and unzip them first. Inside, you’ll find three folders named “System Exit Sound Hacks,” “Windows Logon Sound Hacks,” and “Windows Logoff Sound Hacks.” Inside each of those folders, you’ll find two hacks: one for adding the action to the Sounds Control Panel and one for removing the action again. Double-click the hack you want to use and click through the prompts. When you’ve applied the hack you want, the changes will take place immediately. No need to restart Windows.
Shutdown-Logoff-Logon Sound Hacks
RELATED: How to Make Your Own Windows Registry Hacks These hacks are really just the individual SystemExit, WindowsLogoff, and WindowsLogon subkeys, stripped down to the ExcludeFromCPL values we talked about in the previous section and then exported to a .REG file. Running either of the hacks sets that value to the appropriate number. And if you enjoy fiddling with the Registry, it’s worth taking the time to learn how to make your own Registry hacks.




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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 8:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

Very interesting, Sieghard.

I guess I can live without the shutdown sound, and figure out other ways to determine whether my computer has indeed shut down.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 11:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

That has been discussed a few times on the list. There is no simple checkbox to turn on the shutdown sound, you have to create an elevated task using the Task Manager to do this. I did quite a long time ago and it was not very reliable, but since the 1809 update which I happened to get in early October before it was pulled, the shutdown sound is I think consistent on my laptop. I should say that I did not bother to do this on my work desktops. As was mentioned in previous discussions, hearing the shutdown sound is not a 100% guaranty the computer has in fact shut down. I had it a few times when I thought I shut down my laptop in the morning only to find when I cam ehome at night that it was not shut down because something had blocked the shutdown, the sound played, but then the computer didn't shut down.
I believe there is also a way to do this in the registry with one of these registry hacks one can download.


Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 8:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

And, if anyone knows how to turn on a sound when your computer shuts down, that would be appreciated.

I found the startup sound, but can't find the shut-down sound.

Right now, I don't have a good way to tell that my new Windows 10 computer has completely shut down.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 3:14 AM
To: main <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: A question about system sounds in windows 10

Hi all,

On my new windows 10 laptop, I would like to set up a few system sounds associated with certain events. For example, under windows 7, I used to hear a ding when my cursor encountered the top or bottom of the current window. Also, I used to hear a sound when a download completed. Although I've found the system sounds in settings and reviewed the list of program events, I can't figure out how to set these sounds. Can anyone help?

Thanks in advance.

Kim

--
Kimberly


Re: Updating win10 on new pcHI

Val Paul
 

Hi David!

Just going through the tutorial you have done on chrome, and would like to congratulate you on the presentation of this.

This is so simple to follow with no frills, just plain explainations.

I'm going to keep this so that i can refer to it when i start using chrome tomorrow.

I shouldn't ask this i know, and it's probably very cheeky, but do you have or do any more tutorials which you could send to me privately?

Again, i say to you well done, and thank you.


Val.

On 24/11/2018 21:39, David Moore wrote:

Hi all!

Here is my tutorial on using the Google Chrome browser.

It is a year old, but it is still very good to get you started on using all of the services in Chrome.

It is a text tutorial that I will paste right in the email, and you can read it right here!

Here is the tutorial!

Tutorial for Using the Google Chrome Browser

By David Moore

This tutorial will be done with the latest update of Chrome.

I will also use JAWS 18 and NVDA 2017.2for this tutorial, because they both work the same in Chrome.

Finally, I will use Windows 10 Creators Update latest public build.

I will assume that you have downloaded and installed Chrome.

There should be a shortcut on your desktop.

 

Section One:

Launching Chrome:

One way to Launch Chrome, is to press the Windows key or CTRL+Escape and type Chrome in the search edit field, and press enter when you hear JAWS say Chrome.

However, since you have already downloaded Chrome, You will have a shortcut icon on your desktop.

So next, find the shortcut for Chrome on your desktop, and press enter to open Chrome.

The short cut will actually say Google Chrome, so press G to find the Google Chrome icon on your desktop.

The first very important step, is to press Windows+up arrow to maximise the window. Chrome often opens with the window not maximise, and you will get undesirable results.

 

Section Two:

Bringing up a web site.

Press CTRL+L or Alt+D

and type the following:

www.freedomscientific.com

The Freedom Scientific web site comes up very quickly.

All navigation commands like: H for heading, E for edit field, C for combo box, and so on all work just the same in Chrome.

 

Section Three:

The Virticle Chrome menu:

I will press the Alt key.

The Chrome menu is open.

This is a very large virticle menu that you just keep pressing up and down arrow through.

I will press insert+up arrow to hear the first option in this menu.

New Tab, CTRL+T.

You can press that command right from the web site you are on.

New Window, CTRL+N

You can press these commands right from your web page, instead of coming here.

New incognito Window.

History sub menu.

I will press right arrow here to see what is in this sub menu!

History, CTRL+H

So, there is a key command for reading your history.

You can read a few sites you were on right here.

I will press left arrow to close this history sub menu.

Downloads, CTRL+J

There is the command for opening your downloads you have downloaded with Chrome.

Next, the important Bookmarks sub menu.

I will press right arrow, to open this.

I hear, bookmark this page, CTRL+D

That command will bookmark the page you are reading.

Next down arrow, says show bookmarks bar, CTRL+Shift+B

That command, will show your bookmarks on your Chrome browser for all to see. I do not want that.

Here is the important one.

manage bookmarks

The command is, CTRL+Shift+O

In here, you can organize your bookmarks into folders, see the bookmarks you have imported from different browsers, and very importantly, you can download, to your computer, an HTML file of all of your bookmarks in Chrome.

On your computer, you can press enter on this file, after it downloads, and a page will show up in Chrome with a list of all bookmarks you have saved in Chrome. This is an awesome way to download all of your bookmarks right to your computer, so you can back them up.

That is all for manage bookmarks.

Next, I hear import bookmarks and settings.

press enter on this, and you can import all bookmarks and settings from IE, and Firefox, right into Google Chrome, and they will be in their corresponding folders.

Now, I hear all of my saved bookmarks as I continue to arrow down.

Very important!

Sometimes, when I open that bookmarks sub menu, I do not land on the choices I mension here, but instead, I start hearing my saved bookmarks. If this happens, I press up arrow a few times, and it gets me to these choices.

Keep in mind, that many of these choices, like bookmark manager, have key commands, so you do not have to come to this bookmarks sub menu at all. You only need to come here most of the time, to arrow through your saved bookmarks, and enter on the desired one.

To save a web site as a bookmark,

Just press CTRL+D and press enter, and your bookmark is saved.

I will now press left arrow, to close the Bookmarks sub menu!

I will continue to down arrow through this virticle Chrome menu that we entered by just pressing alt.

The next few are very self explanatory.

The next one I will mension, is the more tools submenu.

I will press right arrow on this.

I hear Save Page as, and the command, CTRL+S.

Next, Save to desktop.

This allows you to save the favorite of the page right to your desktop. This is how you do this in Chrome, instead of doing this in the file menu in IE.

It is hidden under this more tools submenu.

Clear Browsing data, and there is the key command, CTRL+Shift+Delete key.

Extentions, In here, you can add extentions, delete extentions and so on.

These are the same as add ons, in IE.

I will press left arrow, to close the More Tools sub menu, and we are back to the virticle Chrome menu.

The last two that I will mention, are settings, and the help sub menu.

If you press the left arrow on the help sub menu, you can open the help system, just like in other programs, so that is all I will say about help.

Now, we will press enter on settings, and a web like page will open where the virtual cursor will turn on with JAWS, and NVDA will be in Brows mode.

 

Section Four:

Adjusting Settings and Advanced settings:

Now that this web page is open, I will just down arrow down the page and we will deal with each setting.

Important:

I have already signed into Chrome.

So now, arrow down until you hear sign into Chrome and press enter.

You just enter your email address and password, I think it has to be the same email address and password that you used to set up your Google account.

I am not sure about this.

You do not need to sign into Chrome, if you do, you can sync all of your activity between all devices that you have Chrome on. That is the only advantage of signing in.

I will continue with what I hear after you have signed in.

If you do not sign in, press H until you hear Appearance.

Each group of settings is a heading that you can get to by pressing H. This makes it very easy, because you just press H until you hear the group of settings you want to work with.

Now, because I have signed in, this is what I hear before getting to appearance.

The first thing you hear:

Settings.

That is the very top of the web page.

Down arrow, and you hear:

Main Menu Button.

That will just take you back to the virticle menu we were in.

If you down arrow again, you will just hear blank.

Down arrow, again, and you hear:

Settings again, but now, this is a heading. You can get here just by pressing H at the top of the page.

If you down arrow, you hear:

Search Settings.

This is where you can type in a setting that you want to change.

Down arrow again, and there is the edit field where you type in the setting you want to work with.

Down arrow again, and you hear another heading saying people.

Down arrow again, and I hear David Clickable.

This is because I have already signed into Chrome.

Down arrow again, and I hear my Gmail email address.

Again, this is because I have already signed into Chrome to sync my settings and all of that.

Down arrow again, and I hear:

Edit person.

This is where I could change my name.

Down arrow again, and I hear:

Sign Out.

This is because I have already signed in to Chrome.

Down arrow again, and I hear:

Sync.

Down arrow again, and I hear:

On, Sync everything.

This is a combo box, where you can choose what to sinc; I chose everything in this combo box.

Again, all of this is because I have signed into Chrome already.

Down arrow again, and you hear:

Sync button.

Down arrow again, and you hear:

Manage other people clickable.

Don't worry about the clickables. There is a clickable for many things, but then there is the button you enter on right after that.

Down arrow again, and you hear:

Manage other people button.

This is what you would press enter on to set up another user.

Down arrow again, and you hear:

Import bookmarks and settings Clickable:

Down arrow again, and you actually hear

Import bookmarks and settings button.

Here, you press enter and import all of your bookmarks and settings from other Browsers like IE.

This is another way of doing this, because remember,

We had a choice of manage bookmarks in the book marks sub menu in the virticle menu.

There is more than one place to do things in Chrome.

Now, we have a series of headings, that you can just press H for heading, to get to.

Now, we have gotten to the appearance heading. Down arrow and you hear:

themes, which I did nothing with.

Next, you can open the Chrome web store. You can get hundreds of extentions, and more.

Then, you hear Themes button.

Do nothing with this.

Next, you hear:

Show home clickable.

Just skip that.

There are many buttons that say clickable, and then there is a button that you actually press enter on to work with it.

Just work with the buttons, and skip over these vclickables.

Down arrow, and you have an edit box where you can put in your home page you want to get to by pressing Alt+Home.

Next, there is the home button toggle.

Press the spacebar to turn this on or off. If it is on, you can have the home button show at the top of the Chrome Window.

I have it checked.

Now, there are two radio buttons, and I chose the one to enter with a custom web address.

Search Heading:

We are at another heading, where you can set your search Engine.

There is a combo box below, and I set it to Chrome, because I like to have my searches from the address bar done with Crome instead of Bing.

Next heading:

Default Browser.

Here, you can choose weather you want Chrome to be your default browser or not.

Just leave this alone if you do not want Chrome to be your default browser.

Next Important heading:

On Start up.

Here is where you put in your URL that you want to show as soon as you start Chrome.

There are three radio buttons to pick from, but I chose to open with a specific page or pages, which is the third radio button.

Under this, you can type in the URL of the web site that you want to open when you start Chrome.

Under this, there is a link where you can add more pages you want to show when Chrome starts up.

Now, we are up to the search engin heading.

This is a heading.

There are headings on this settings page.

I chose to use Google search engin in the address bar. This is a combo box.

The next heading, is on start up.

Finally, here is where you set up your home page.

There are three radio buttons here.

I chose the third one, to open a selected page or selected pages.

Next, I was able to enter:

www.Google.Com.

That is my home page that will open each time I start Chrome.

Next important group of settings, the advanced settings.

Now, you have to press enter on the advanced settings button before more headings of settings will show.

The Advanced settings are collapsed, so you have to press enter to show more headings of settings.

Now that these advanced settings are open, we get to the next heading of settings.

There is much more we can customize under the advanced settings.

Privacy and security heading:

Down arrow from here, and you hear:

Use a web service to resolve navigation errors.

You have a clickable, and a toggle.

Press spacebar to toggle this on or off.

Again, ignore the clickables.

Now you have:

Use a prodiction service to enable you in searches.

I left this unchecked.

Next, you have a setting to speed up the loading of web pages:

I checked this with spacebar.

The next three settings I just left alone.

I checked the one that says:

Use a web service to help with spelling.

I leave manage certificates alone.

Next, you have content settings, but this is not a new heading.

We are still working with the same heading.

The only thing of interest here, is the clear history button.

This was available in the virtical menu, so don't worry about this.

Now, we get to the next heading of settings.

Passwords and forms:

Under this heading, just make sure that you check to be able to have Chrome save passwords.

Languages Heading:

I did nothing with this.

Downloads heading:

This is where you choose where you want your downloads to be saved on your computer.

Printing heading:

I did nothing with this.

Accessibility heading:

I did nothing with this.

Now, we have the System heading:

Down arrow, and you hear:

Continue running background apps, when Google Chrome is Closed.

I have this unchecked.

Next,

Use hard ware excelloration when Available.

I have this checked.

Next, you hear:

Open proxy settings button.

I left this alone.

Last Heading LOL!

Reset.

Here, you can reset all settings back to their origional.

We are done with Settings.

Now, just press CTRL+F4 to get back to the Freedom Scientific Web site.

This settings web page, opens in another tab.

That is it for settings.

Notice, we made a lot of changes under the advanced settings. You cannot see these, unless you press enter to expand these.

Now, press the Alt key again. Up arrow once to get to the end of the menu where we were with the settings.

You see exit, up arrow and you see the help sub menu, right under the settings choice.

I press right arrow on this help sub menu, and you can enter on the help center to get a lot of help using Chrome.

To open a web site, just press CTRL+L or Alt+D and type the URL.

Chrome for me, is so much quicker with web sites that involve streamming TV and Watching movies, and so on.

For me, Chrome opens large news sites very quickly compared to IE.

Lastly, All JAWS and NVDA navigation key commands work in Chrome. For example, you can press F7 to open a list of links with JAWS, and the elements list with NVDA. All of that is the exact same.

This is the end of the tutorial.

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Val Paul
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 1:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Updating win10 on new pcHI

 

Hi Michael!

That would be good.

Just installed it a few moments, but can't seem to get to where i can set my home page. Mind you, haven't reall explored it yet, and no doubt, if there any disasters to be performed, then, you can be sure i'll be the one to perform them!

Mly name shouldn't be Val, but disaster queen!

 

Val.

On 24/11/2018 18:02, Michael Munn wrote:

Congrat on your upgrade to Windows10.

If you need an assistant on learning Google Chrome I would be glad to help.

Thanks 

Best Regards 

Michael Munn 

Michael Munn

Member:

Virginia Association of Blind students 

Member:

Maryland Association of Blind Students 

Students of:

Hadley Institute of the Blind

Hadley 

 

 

On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 12:44 PM Val Paul <vpcara79@...> wrote:

Hi Marty!

When I wrote my message, i hadn't installed jaws, but used narrator to
guide med through the process!

My friend came just after lunch, and had a look, and it had just
finished updating.

I've now got Jaws reinstalled, and everything seems to be fine!

I'm now going to install krome, as internet explorer doesn't work very
well for me amy more. This will be a learning period for me.


Val.

On 24/11/2018 15:24, Marty Hutchings wrote:
> Are you even sure that the refurbished machine has JAWS on it?
>
>
>
> Love in Christ
> Marty
> -----Original Message----- From: Kimber Gardner
> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 1:25 AM
> To: main@jfw.groups.io
> Subject: Re: Updating win10 on new pcHI
>
> Hi,
>
> So if I'm understanding correctly, you updated this new windows 10
> computer a few days ago and jaws hasn't spoken since?
>
> Try turning on Narrator which is the built-in windows screen reader.
> The key combo to do this is windows + control +enter. This key combo
> is a toggle so press it once to turn narrator on and press it again to
> turn it off. Using it you will be able to see what's going on and get
> to the jaws icon so you can start jaws. At the very least you will be
> able to see what's on your screen.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Kim
>
> On 11/23/18, Val Paul <vpcara79@...> wrote:
>> Hi good friends!
>> As you can see by this email, i’ve had to resort to my Iphone to send
>> this.
>> I would be glad of some help. [always seem to require help these
>> days] As
>> i’ve been having trouble with the USB drives on my pc, i took my pc to a
>> friend who has become the manager of a new computer shop just open.
>> Actually, he came to see me as i’m not walking very well with my hip
>> which i
>> recently broke.
>> He took away my pc and brought m me a refurbished one.
>> What i’d like help with is when i set it up, it said that i was well
>> out of
>> date, so installed the update helper, this was on Wednesday and it still
>> hasn’t spoke to tell me if i’ve installed it correctly.
>> How can i check this please?
>> Sorry for sending such a long message, but i’m trying my best to give
>> you
>> the correct details.
>>
>> Val.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>


 


Re: Updating win10 on new pcHI

David Moore
 

You are so welcome!

Chrome is so easy to use with one vertical menu, and it is so snappy. You can sync all of your information between two devices that have chrome, such as bookmarks and so on!

David Moore

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Val Paul
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 4:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Updating win10 on new pcHI

 

hI     David!

Thanks for putting that tutorial on the list, this will come in very useful to me, as  internet explorer no longer works as well as it used to.

 

Val.

On 24/11/2018 21:39, David Moore wrote:

Hi all!

Here is my tutorial on using the Google Chrome browser.

It is a year old, but it is still very good to get you started on using all of the services in Chrome.

It is a text tutorial that I will paste right in the email, and you can read it right here!

Here is the tutorial!

Tutorial for Using the Google Chrome Browser

By David Moore

This tutorial will be done with the latest update of Chrome.

I will also use JAWS 18 and NVDA 2017.2for this tutorial, because they both work the same in Chrome.

Finally, I will use Windows 10 Creators Update latest public build.

I will assume that you have downloaded and installed Chrome.

There should be a shortcut on your desktop.

 

Section One:

Launching Chrome:

One way to Launch Chrome, is to press the Windows key or CTRL+Escape and type Chrome in the search edit field, and press enter when you hear JAWS say Chrome.

However, since you have already downloaded Chrome, You will have a shortcut icon on your desktop.

So next, find the shortcut for Chrome on your desktop, and press enter to open Chrome.

The short cut will actually say Google Chrome, so press G to find the Google Chrome icon on your desktop.

The first very important step, is to press Windows+up arrow to maximise the window. Chrome often opens with the window not maximise, and you will get undesirable results.

 

Section Two:

Bringing up a web site.

Press CTRL+L or Alt+D

and type the following:

www.freedomscientific.com

The Freedom Scientific web site comes up very quickly.

All navigation commands like: H for heading, E for edit field, C for combo box, and so on all work just the same in Chrome.

 

Section Three:

The Virticle Chrome menu:

I will press the Alt key.

The Chrome menu is open.

This is a very large virticle menu that you just keep pressing up and down arrow through.

I will press insert+up arrow to hear the first option in this menu.

New Tab, CTRL+T.

You can press that command right from the web site you are on.

New Window, CTRL+N

You can press these commands right from your web page, instead of coming here.

New incognito Window.

History sub menu.

I will press right arrow here to see what is in this sub menu!

History, CTRL+H

So, there is a key command for reading your history.

You can read a few sites you were on right here.

I will press left arrow to close this history sub menu.

Downloads, CTRL+J

There is the command for opening your downloads you have downloaded with Chrome.

Next, the important Bookmarks sub menu.

I will press right arrow, to open this.

I hear, bookmark this page, CTRL+D

That command will bookmark the page you are reading.

Next down arrow, says show bookmarks bar, CTRL+Shift+B

That command, will show your bookmarks on your Chrome browser for all to see. I do not want that.

Here is the important one.

manage bookmarks

The command is, CTRL+Shift+O

In here, you can organize your bookmarks into folders, see the bookmarks you have imported from different browsers, and very importantly, you can download, to your computer, an HTML file of all of your bookmarks in Chrome.

On your computer, you can press enter on this file, after it downloads, and a page will show up in Chrome with a list of all bookmarks you have saved in Chrome. This is an awesome way to download all of your bookmarks right to your computer, so you can back them up.

That is all for manage bookmarks.

Next, I hear import bookmarks and settings.

press enter on this, and you can import all bookmarks and settings from IE, and Firefox, right into Google Chrome, and they will be in their corresponding folders.

Now, I hear all of my saved bookmarks as I continue to arrow down.

Very important!

Sometimes, when I open that bookmarks sub menu, I do not land on the choices I mension here, but instead, I start hearing my saved bookmarks. If this happens, I press up arrow a few times, and it gets me to these choices.

Keep in mind, that many of these choices, like bookmark manager, have key commands, so you do not have to come to this bookmarks sub menu at all. You only need to come here most of the time, to arrow through your saved bookmarks, and enter on the desired one.

To save a web site as a bookmark,

Just press CTRL+D and press enter, and your bookmark is saved.

I will now press left arrow, to close the Bookmarks sub menu!

I will continue to down arrow through this virticle Chrome menu that we entered by just pressing alt.

The next few are very self explanatory.

The next one I will mension, is the more tools submenu.

I will press right arrow on this.

I hear Save Page as, and the command, CTRL+S.

Next, Save to desktop.

This allows you to save the favorite of the page right to your desktop. This is how you do this in Chrome, instead of doing this in the file menu in IE.

It is hidden under this more tools submenu.

Clear Browsing data, and there is the key command, CTRL+Shift+Delete key.

Extentions, In here, you can add extentions, delete extentions and so on.

These are the same as add ons, in IE.

I will press left arrow, to close the More Tools sub menu, and we are back to the virticle Chrome menu.

The last two that I will mention, are settings, and the help sub menu.

If you press the left arrow on the help sub menu, you can open the help system, just like in other programs, so that is all I will say about help.

Now, we will press enter on settings, and a web like page will open where the virtual cursor will turn on with JAWS, and NVDA will be in Brows mode.

 

Section Four:

Adjusting Settings and Advanced settings:

Now that this web page is open, I will just down arrow down the page and we will deal with each setting.

Important:

I have already signed into Chrome.

So now, arrow down until you hear sign into Chrome and press enter.

You just enter your email address and password, I think it has to be the same email address and password that you used to set up your Google account.

I am not sure about this.

You do not need to sign into Chrome, if you do, you can sync all of your activity between all devices that you have Chrome on. That is the only advantage of signing in.

I will continue with what I hear after you have signed in.

If you do not sign in, press H until you hear Appearance.

Each group of settings is a heading that you can get to by pressing H. This makes it very easy, because you just press H until you hear the group of settings you want to work with.

Now, because I have signed in, this is what I hear before getting to appearance.

The first thing you hear:

Settings.

That is the very top of the web page.

Down arrow, and you hear:

Main Menu Button.

That will just take you back to the virticle menu we were in.

If you down arrow again, you will just hear blank.

Down arrow, again, and you hear:

Settings again, but now, this is a heading. You can get here just by pressing H at the top of the page.

If you down arrow, you hear:

Search Settings.

This is where you can type in a setting that you want to change.

Down arrow again, and there is the edit field where you type in the setting you want to work with.

Down arrow again, and you hear another heading saying people.

Down arrow again, and I hear David Clickable.

This is because I have already signed into Chrome.

Down arrow again, and I hear my Gmail email address.

Again, this is because I have already signed into Chrome to sync my settings and all of that.

Down arrow again, and I hear:

Edit person.

This is where I could change my name.

Down arrow again, and I hear:

Sign Out.

This is because I have already signed in to Chrome.

Down arrow again, and I hear:

Sync.

Down arrow again, and I hear:

On, Sync everything.

This is a combo box, where you can choose what to sinc; I chose everything in this combo box.

Again, all of this is because I have signed into Chrome already.

Down arrow again, and you hear:

Sync button.

Down arrow again, and you hear:

Manage other people clickable.

Don't worry about the clickables. There is a clickable for many things, but then there is the button you enter on right after that.

Down arrow again, and you hear:

Manage other people button.

This is what you would press enter on to set up another user.

Down arrow again, and you hear:

Import bookmarks and settings Clickable:

Down arrow again, and you actually hear

Import bookmarks and settings button.

Here, you press enter and import all of your bookmarks and settings from other Browsers like IE.

This is another way of doing this, because remember,

We had a choice of manage bookmarks in the book marks sub menu in the virticle menu.

There is more than one place to do things in Chrome.

Now, we have a series of headings, that you can just press H for heading, to get to.

Now, we have gotten to the appearance heading. Down arrow and you hear:

themes, which I did nothing with.

Next, you can open the Chrome web store. You can get hundreds of extentions, and more.

Then, you hear Themes button.

Do nothing with this.

Next, you hear:

Show home clickable.

Just skip that.

There are many buttons that say clickable, and then there is a button that you actually press enter on to work with it.

Just work with the buttons, and skip over these vclickables.

Down arrow, and you have an edit box where you can put in your home page you want to get to by pressing Alt+Home.

Next, there is the home button toggle.

Press the spacebar to turn this on or off. If it is on, you can have the home button show at the top of the Chrome Window.

I have it checked.

Now, there are two radio buttons, and I chose the one to enter with a custom web address.

Search Heading:

We are at another heading, where you can set your search Engine.

There is a combo box below, and I set it to Chrome, because I like to have my searches from the address bar done with Crome instead of Bing.

Next heading:

Default Browser.

Here, you can choose weather you want Chrome to be your default browser or not.

Just leave this alone if you do not want Chrome to be your default browser.

Next Important heading:

On Start up.

Here is where you put in your URL that you want to show as soon as you start Chrome.

There are three radio buttons to pick from, but I chose to open with a specific page or pages, which is the third radio button.

Under this, you can type in the URL of the web site that you want to open when you start Chrome.

Under this, there is a link where you can add more pages you want to show when Chrome starts up.

Now, we are up to the search engin heading.

This is a heading.

There are headings on this settings page.

I chose to use Google search engin in the address bar. This is a combo box.

The next heading, is on start up.

Finally, here is where you set up your home page.

There are three radio buttons here.

I chose the third one, to open a selected page or selected pages.

Next, I was able to enter:

www.Google.Com.

That is my home page that will open each time I start Chrome.

Next important group of settings, the advanced settings.

Now, you have to press enter on the advanced settings button before more headings of settings will show.

The Advanced settings are collapsed, so you have to press enter to show more headings of settings.

Now that these advanced settings are open, we get to the next heading of settings.

There is much more we can customize under the advanced settings.

Privacy and security heading:

Down arrow from here, and you hear:

Use a web service to resolve navigation errors.

You have a clickable, and a toggle.

Press spacebar to toggle this on or off.

Again, ignore the clickables.

Now you have:

Use a prodiction service to enable you in searches.

I left this unchecked.

Next, you have a setting to speed up the loading of web pages:

I checked this with spacebar.

The next three settings I just left alone.

I checked the one that says:

Use a web service to help with spelling.

I leave manage certificates alone.

Next, you have content settings, but this is not a new heading.

We are still working with the same heading.

The only thing of interest here, is the clear history button.

This was available in the virtical menu, so don't worry about this.

Now, we get to the next heading of settings.

Passwords and forms:

Under this heading, just make sure that you check to be able to have Chrome save passwords.

Languages Heading:

I did nothing with this.

Downloads heading:

This is where you choose where you want your downloads to be saved on your computer.

Printing heading:

I did nothing with this.

Accessibility heading:

I did nothing with this.

Now, we have the System heading:

Down arrow, and you hear:

Continue running background apps, when Google Chrome is Closed.

I have this unchecked.

Next,

Use hard ware excelloration when Available.

I have this checked.

Next, you hear:

Open proxy settings button.

I left this alone.

Last Heading LOL!

Reset.

Here, you can reset all settings back to their origional.

We are done with Settings.

Now, just press CTRL+F4 to get back to the Freedom Scientific Web site.

This settings web page, opens in another tab.

That is it for settings.

Notice, we made a lot of changes under the advanced settings. You cannot see these, unless you press enter to expand these.

Now, press the Alt key again. Up arrow once to get to the end of the menu where we were with the settings.

You see exit, up arrow and you see the help sub menu, right under the settings choice.

I press right arrow on this help sub menu, and you can enter on the help center to get a lot of help using Chrome.

To open a web site, just press CTRL+L or Alt+D and type the URL.

Chrome for me, is so much quicker with web sites that involve streamming TV and Watching movies, and so on.

For me, Chrome opens large news sites very quickly compared to IE.

Lastly, All JAWS and NVDA navigation key commands work in Chrome. For example, you can press F7 to open a list of links with JAWS, and the elements list with NVDA. All of that is the exact same.

This is the end of the tutorial.

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Val Paul
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 1:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Updating win10 on new pcHI

 

Hi Michael!

That would be good.

Just installed it a few moments, but can't seem to get to where i can set my home page. Mind you, haven't reall explored it yet, and no doubt, if there any disasters to be performed, then, you can be sure i'll be the one to perform them!

Mly name shouldn't be Val, but disaster queen!

 

Val.

On 24/11/2018 18:02, Michael Munn wrote:

Congrat on your upgrade to Windows10.

If you need an assistant on learning Google Chrome I would be glad to help.

Thanks 

Best Regards 

Michael Munn 

Michael Munn

Member:

Virginia Association of Blind students 

Member:

Maryland Association of Blind Students 

Students of:

Hadley Institute of the Blind

Hadley 

 

 

On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 12:44 PM Val Paul <vpcara79@...> wrote:

Hi Marty!

When I wrote my message, i hadn't installed jaws, but used narrator to
guide med through the process!

My friend came just after lunch, and had a look, and it had just
finished updating.

I've now got Jaws reinstalled, and everything seems to be fine!

I'm now going to install krome, as internet explorer doesn't work very
well for me amy more. This will be a learning period for me.


Val.

On 24/11/2018 15:24, Marty Hutchings wrote:
> Are you even sure that the refurbished machine has JAWS on it?
>
>
>
> Love in Christ
> Marty
> -----Original Message----- From: Kimber Gardner
> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 1:25 AM
> To: main@jfw.groups.io
> Subject: Re: Updating win10 on new pcHI
>
> Hi,
>
> So if I'm understanding correctly, you updated this new windows 10
> computer a few days ago and jaws hasn't spoken since?
>
> Try turning on Narrator which is the built-in windows screen reader.
> The key combo to do this is windows + control +enter. This key combo
> is a toggle so press it once to turn narrator on and press it again to
> turn it off. Using it you will be able to see what's going on and get
> to the jaws icon so you can start jaws. At the very least you will be
> able to see what's on your screen.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Kim
>
> On 11/23/18, Val Paul <vpcara79@...> wrote:
>> Hi good friends!
>> As you can see by this email, i’ve had to resort to my Iphone to send
>> this.
>> I would be glad of some help. [always seem to require help these
>> days] As
>> i’ve been having trouble with the USB drives on my pc, i took my pc to a
>> friend who has become the manager of a new computer shop just open.
>> Actually, he came to see me as i’m not walking very well with my hip
>> which i
>> recently broke.
>> He took away my pc and brought m me a refurbished one.
>> What i’d like help with is when i set it up, it said that i was well
>> out of
>> date, so installed the update helper, this was on Wednesday and it still
>> hasn’t spoke to tell me if i’ve installed it correctly.
>> How can i check this please?
>> Sorry for sending such a long message, but i’m trying my best to give
>> you
>> the correct details.
>>
>> Val.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>



 

 


Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

 

I want to state for the record that as much as I like howtogeek and how dependable their advice generally is the particular registry edit they propose has not worked for a very long time now.  The only workaround I know is to create a task that triggers during the system shutdown that plays a sound.  If anyone wants the XML file for same, you can download the one I created here:  ShutdownSoundV2.XML

If memory serves, just double clicking it will set up the task for you, with triggers.  It plays a standard Windows supplied "ring" sound (and it doesn't sound like a telephone, but rather chimes) when shutting down.  That is if it works on a given system.  Nine times out of 10 it doesn't do it on mine, while nine times out of 10 to always it works on some other systems where I've done this tweak.

Optical media is going the way of the dinosaur, and rapidly.  Anyone who thinks that CD/DVD/Blu-Ray drives will continue to be offered built-in has not been watching the trend of the last several years.  I make this comment as someone who intentionally sought out a laptop with a CD/DVD drive, but it was hard to find even a bit more than a year ago, and they're becoming rarer.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Re: Updating win10 on new pcHI

Val Paul
 

hI     David!

Thanks for putting that tutorial on the list, this will come in very useful to me, as  internet explorer no longer works as well as it used to.


Val.

On 24/11/2018 21:39, David Moore wrote:

Hi all!

Here is my tutorial on using the Google Chrome browser.

It is a year old, but it is still very good to get you started on using all of the services in Chrome.

It is a text tutorial that I will paste right in the email, and you can read it right here!

Here is the tutorial!

Tutorial for Using the Google Chrome Browser

By David Moore

This tutorial will be done with the latest update of Chrome.

I will also use JAWS 18 and NVDA 2017.2for this tutorial, because they both work the same in Chrome.

Finally, I will use Windows 10 Creators Update latest public build.

I will assume that you have downloaded and installed Chrome.

There should be a shortcut on your desktop.

 

Section One:

Launching Chrome:

One way to Launch Chrome, is to press the Windows key or CTRL+Escape and type Chrome in the search edit field, and press enter when you hear JAWS say Chrome.

However, since you have already downloaded Chrome, You will have a shortcut icon on your desktop.

So next, find the shortcut for Chrome on your desktop, and press enter to open Chrome.

The short cut will actually say Google Chrome, so press G to find the Google Chrome icon on your desktop.

The first very important step, is to press Windows+up arrow to maximise the window. Chrome often opens with the window not maximise, and you will get undesirable results.

 

Section Two:

Bringing up a web site.

Press CTRL+L or Alt+D

and type the following:

www.freedomscientific.com

The Freedom Scientific web site comes up very quickly.

All navigation commands like: H for heading, E for edit field, C for combo box, and so on all work just the same in Chrome.

 

Section Three:

The Virticle Chrome menu:

I will press the Alt key.

The Chrome menu is open.

This is a very large virticle menu that you just keep pressing up and down arrow through.

I will press insert+up arrow to hear the first option in this menu.

New Tab, CTRL+T.

You can press that command right from the web site you are on.

New Window, CTRL+N

You can press these commands right from your web page, instead of coming here.

New incognito Window.

History sub menu.

I will press right arrow here to see what is in this sub menu!

History, CTRL+H

So, there is a key command for reading your history.

You can read a few sites you were on right here.

I will press left arrow to close this history sub menu.

Downloads, CTRL+J

There is the command for opening your downloads you have downloaded with Chrome.

Next, the important Bookmarks sub menu.

I will press right arrow, to open this.

I hear, bookmark this page, CTRL+D

That command will bookmark the page you are reading.

Next down arrow, says show bookmarks bar, CTRL+Shift+B

That command, will show your bookmarks on your Chrome browser for all to see. I do not want that.

Here is the important one.

manage bookmarks

The command is, CTRL+Shift+O

In here, you can organize your bookmarks into folders, see the bookmarks you have imported from different browsers, and very importantly, you can download, to your computer, an HTML file of all of your bookmarks in Chrome.

On your computer, you can press enter on this file, after it downloads, and a page will show up in Chrome with a list of all bookmarks you have saved in Chrome. This is an awesome way to download all of your bookmarks right to your computer, so you can back them up.

That is all for manage bookmarks.

Next, I hear import bookmarks and settings.

press enter on this, and you can import all bookmarks and settings from IE, and Firefox, right into Google Chrome, and they will be in their corresponding folders.

Now, I hear all of my saved bookmarks as I continue to arrow down.

Very important!

Sometimes, when I open that bookmarks sub menu, I do not land on the choices I mension here, but instead, I start hearing my saved bookmarks. If this happens, I press up arrow a few times, and it gets me to these choices.

Keep in mind, that many of these choices, like bookmark manager, have key commands, so you do not have to come to this bookmarks sub menu at all. You only need to come here most of the time, to arrow through your saved bookmarks, and enter on the desired one.

To save a web site as a bookmark,

Just press CTRL+D and press enter, and your bookmark is saved.

I will now press left arrow, to close the Bookmarks sub menu!

I will continue to down arrow through this virticle Chrome menu that we entered by just pressing alt.

The next few are very self explanatory.

The next one I will mension, is the more tools submenu.

I will press right arrow on this.

I hear Save Page as, and the command, CTRL+S.

Next, Save to desktop.

This allows you to save the favorite of the page right to your desktop. This is how you do this in Chrome, instead of doing this in the file menu in IE.

It is hidden under this more tools submenu.

Clear Browsing data, and there is the key command, CTRL+Shift+Delete key.

Extentions, In here, you can add extentions, delete extentions and so on.

These are the same as add ons, in IE.

I will press left arrow, to close the More Tools sub menu, and we are back to the virticle Chrome menu.

The last two that I will mention, are settings, and the help sub menu.

If you press the left arrow on the help sub menu, you can open the help system, just like in other programs, so that is all I will say about help.

Now, we will press enter on settings, and a web like page will open where the virtual cursor will turn on with JAWS, and NVDA will be in Brows mode.

 

Section Four:

Adjusting Settings and Advanced settings:

Now that this web page is open, I will just down arrow down the page and we will deal with each setting.

Important:

I have already signed into Chrome.

So now, arrow down until you hear sign into Chrome and press enter.

You just enter your email address and password, I think it has to be the same email address and password that you used to set up your Google account.

I am not sure about this.

You do not need to sign into Chrome, if you do, you can sync all of your activity between all devices that you have Chrome on. That is the only advantage of signing in.

I will continue with what I hear after you have signed in.

If you do not sign in, press H until you hear Appearance.

Each group of settings is a heading that you can get to by pressing H. This makes it very easy, because you just press H until you hear the group of settings you want to work with.

Now, because I have signed in, this is what I hear before getting to appearance.

The first thing you hear:

Settings.

That is the very top of the web page.

Down arrow, and you hear:

Main Menu Button.

That will just take you back to the virticle menu we were in.

If you down arrow again, you will just hear blank.

Down arrow, again, and you hear:

Settings again, but now, this is a heading. You can get here just by pressing H at the top of the page.

If you down arrow, you hear:

Search Settings.

This is where you can type in a setting that you want to change.

Down arrow again, and there is the edit field where you type in the setting you want to work with.

Down arrow again, and you hear another heading saying people.

Down arrow again, and I hear David Clickable.

This is because I have already signed into Chrome.

Down arrow again, and I hear my Gmail email address.

Again, this is because I have already signed into Chrome to sync my settings and all of that.

Down arrow again, and I hear:

Edit person.

This is where I could change my name.

Down arrow again, and I hear:

Sign Out.

This is because I have already signed in to Chrome.

Down arrow again, and I hear:

Sync.

Down arrow again, and I hear:

On, Sync everything.

This is a combo box, where you can choose what to sinc; I chose everything in this combo box.

Again, all of this is because I have signed into Chrome already.

Down arrow again, and you hear:

Sync button.

Down arrow again, and you hear:

Manage other people clickable.

Don't worry about the clickables. There is a clickable for many things, but then there is the button you enter on right after that.

Down arrow again, and you hear:

Manage other people button.

This is what you would press enter on to set up another user.

Down arrow again, and you hear:

Import bookmarks and settings Clickable:

Down arrow again, and you actually hear

Import bookmarks and settings button.

Here, you press enter and import all of your bookmarks and settings from other Browsers like IE.

This is another way of doing this, because remember,

We had a choice of manage bookmarks in the book marks sub menu in the virticle menu.

There is more than one place to do things in Chrome.

Now, we have a series of headings, that you can just press H for heading, to get to.

Now, we have gotten to the appearance heading. Down arrow and you hear:

themes, which I did nothing with.

Next, you can open the Chrome web store. You can get hundreds of extentions, and more.

Then, you hear Themes button.

Do nothing with this.

Next, you hear:

Show home clickable.

Just skip that.

There are many buttons that say clickable, and then there is a button that you actually press enter on to work with it.

Just work with the buttons, and skip over these vclickables.

Down arrow, and you have an edit box where you can put in your home page you want to get to by pressing Alt+Home.

Next, there is the home button toggle.

Press the spacebar to turn this on or off. If it is on, you can have the home button show at the top of the Chrome Window.

I have it checked.

Now, there are two radio buttons, and I chose the one to enter with a custom web address.

Search Heading:

We are at another heading, where you can set your search Engine.

There is a combo box below, and I set it to Chrome, because I like to have my searches from the address bar done with Crome instead of Bing.

Next heading:

Default Browser.

Here, you can choose weather you want Chrome to be your default browser or not.

Just leave this alone if you do not want Chrome to be your default browser.

Next Important heading:

On Start up.

Here is where you put in your URL that you want to show as soon as you start Chrome.

There are three radio buttons to pick from, but I chose to open with a specific page or pages, which is the third radio button.

Under this, you can type in the URL of the web site that you want to open when you start Chrome.

Under this, there is a link where you can add more pages you want to show when Chrome starts up.

Now, we are up to the search engin heading.

This is a heading.

There are headings on this settings page.

I chose to use Google search engin in the address bar. This is a combo box.

The next heading, is on start up.

Finally, here is where you set up your home page.

There are three radio buttons here.

I chose the third one, to open a selected page or selected pages.

Next, I was able to enter:

www.Google.Com.

That is my home page that will open each time I start Chrome.

Next important group of settings, the advanced settings.

Now, you have to press enter on the advanced settings button before more headings of settings will show.

The Advanced settings are collapsed, so you have to press enter to show more headings of settings.

Now that these advanced settings are open, we get to the next heading of settings.

There is much more we can customize under the advanced settings.

Privacy and security heading:

Down arrow from here, and you hear:

Use a web service to resolve navigation errors.

You have a clickable, and a toggle.

Press spacebar to toggle this on or off.

Again, ignore the clickables.

Now you have:

Use a prodiction service to enable you in searches.

I left this unchecked.

Next, you have a setting to speed up the loading of web pages:

I checked this with spacebar.

The next three settings I just left alone.

I checked the one that says:

Use a web service to help with spelling.

I leave manage certificates alone.

Next, you have content settings, but this is not a new heading.

We are still working with the same heading.

The only thing of interest here, is the clear history button.

This was available in the virtical menu, so don't worry about this.

Now, we get to the next heading of settings.

Passwords and forms:

Under this heading, just make sure that you check to be able to have Chrome save passwords.

Languages Heading:

I did nothing with this.

Downloads heading:

This is where you choose where you want your downloads to be saved on your computer.

Printing heading:

I did nothing with this.

Accessibility heading:

I did nothing with this.

Now, we have the System heading:

Down arrow, and you hear:

Continue running background apps, when Google Chrome is Closed.

I have this unchecked.

Next,

Use hard ware excelloration when Available.

I have this checked.

Next, you hear:

Open proxy settings button.

I left this alone.

Last Heading LOL!

Reset.

Here, you can reset all settings back to their origional.

We are done with Settings.

Now, just press CTRL+F4 to get back to the Freedom Scientific Web site.

This settings web page, opens in another tab.

That is it for settings.

Notice, we made a lot of changes under the advanced settings. You cannot see these, unless you press enter to expand these.

Now, press the Alt key again. Up arrow once to get to the end of the menu where we were with the settings.

You see exit, up arrow and you see the help sub menu, right under the settings choice.

I press right arrow on this help sub menu, and you can enter on the help center to get a lot of help using Chrome.

To open a web site, just press CTRL+L or Alt+D and type the URL.

Chrome for me, is so much quicker with web sites that involve streamming TV and Watching movies, and so on.

For me, Chrome opens large news sites very quickly compared to IE.

Lastly, All JAWS and NVDA navigation key commands work in Chrome. For example, you can press F7 to open a list of links with JAWS, and the elements list with NVDA. All of that is the exact same.

This is the end of the tutorial.

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Val Paul
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 1:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Updating win10 on new pcHI

 

Hi Michael!

That would be good.

Just installed it a few moments, but can't seem to get to where i can set my home page. Mind you, haven't reall explored it yet, and no doubt, if there any disasters to be performed, then, you can be sure i'll be the one to perform them!

Mly name shouldn't be Val, but disaster queen!

 

Val.

On 24/11/2018 18:02, Michael Munn wrote:

Congrat on your upgrade to Windows10.

If you need an assistant on learning Google Chrome I would be glad to help.

Thanks 

Best Regards 

Michael Munn 

Michael Munn

Member:

Virginia Association of Blind students 

Member:

Maryland Association of Blind Students 

Students of:

Hadley Institute of the Blind

Hadley 

 

 

On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 12:44 PM Val Paul <vpcara79@...> wrote:

Hi Marty!

When I wrote my message, i hadn't installed jaws, but used narrator to
guide med through the process!

My friend came just after lunch, and had a look, and it had just
finished updating.

I've now got Jaws reinstalled, and everything seems to be fine!

I'm now going to install krome, as internet explorer doesn't work very
well for me amy more. This will be a learning period for me.


Val.

On 24/11/2018 15:24, Marty Hutchings wrote:
> Are you even sure that the refurbished machine has JAWS on it?
>
>
>
> Love in Christ
> Marty
> -----Original Message----- From: Kimber Gardner
> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 1:25 AM
> To: main@jfw.groups.io
> Subject: Re: Updating win10 on new pcHI
>
> Hi,
>
> So if I'm understanding correctly, you updated this new windows 10
> computer a few days ago and jaws hasn't spoken since?
>
> Try turning on Narrator which is the built-in windows screen reader.
> The key combo to do this is windows + control +enter. This key combo
> is a toggle so press it once to turn narrator on and press it again to
> turn it off. Using it you will be able to see what's going on and get
> to the jaws icon so you can start jaws. At the very least you will be
> able to see what's on your screen.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Kim
>
> On 11/23/18, Val Paul <vpcara79@...> wrote:
>> Hi good friends!
>> As you can see by this email, i’ve had to resort to my Iphone to send
>> this.
>> I would be glad of some help. [always seem to require help these
>> days] As
>> i’ve been having trouble with the USB drives on my pc, i took my pc to a
>> friend who has become the manager of a new computer shop just open.
>> Actually, he came to see me as i’m not walking very well with my hip
>> which i
>> recently broke.
>> He took away my pc and brought m me a refurbished one.
>> What i’d like help with is when i set it up, it said that i was well
>> out of
>> date, so installed the update helper, this was on Wednesday and it still
>> hasn’t spoke to tell me if i’ve installed it correctly.
>> How can i check this please?
>> Sorry for sending such a long message, but i’m trying my best to give
>> you
>> the correct details.
>>
>> Val.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>


 


Re: Jaws 2018 Update on desktop with window 10

Mario
 

no worry. your good to go.

-------- Original Message --------
From: O.Addison Gethers [mailto:o.addisongethers@...]
Sent: Sat, Nov 24, 2018 4:37 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws 2018 Update on desktop with window 10

Mario When I press insert J to Jaws window I press alt O option menu
then it's say basic voice then I press enter then tab to it's say update
notification it's say not check so I press spacebar to checks then tab
to OK button then press spacebar !! I just read your message in here
what are you saying about aware something I need to do ??I'm getting
little confused here since I already checks on notification



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 3:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2018 Update on desktop with window 10

be aware, what I provided is the path to where you'll find the setting.

if you have JAWS starting up from the system tray or not, you'll have to
adjust what you have to do. do you know what to do?

-------- Original Message --------
From: O.Addison Gethers [mailto:o.addisongethers@...]
Sent: Sat, Nov 24, 2018 1:43 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws 2018 Update on desktop with window 10

Thank you Mario and will check to see if notification is checks or not if
not then I need to press spacebar to check it right


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 10:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2018 Update on desktop with window 10

is Automatic Notification of Updates check box checked?

insert+j, options menu, basics submenu, tab to Automatic Notification of
Updates check box, and spacebar to check if it is not already checked.


-------- Original Message --------
From: O.Addison Gethers [mailto:o.addisongethers@...]
Sent: Sat, Nov 24, 2018 10:30 AM EST
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws 2018 Update on desktop with window 10

Hello All I have desktop computer window 10 and jaws 2018 I noticed this
is sound strange about jaws update window never came on to asked me if I
want toinstall jaws update because when I turns on my laptop computer on
Tuesday morning I heard the window screen came open to say do I want to
install jaws update now !! Can anyone tell me why is my desktop is not
doing that? What do I need to do to fix this problem?

Addison

















.










.


Re: Updating win10 on new pcHI

David Moore
 

Hi all!

Here is my tutorial on using the Google Chrome browser.

It is a year old, but it is still very good to get you started on using all of the services in Chrome.

It is a text tutorial that I will paste right in the email, and you can read it right here!

Here is the tutorial!

Tutorial for Using the Google Chrome Browser

By David Moore

This tutorial will be done with the latest update of Chrome.

I will also use JAWS 18 and NVDA 2017.2for this tutorial, because they both work the same in Chrome.

Finally, I will use Windows 10 Creators Update latest public build.

I will assume that you have downloaded and installed Chrome.

There should be a shortcut on your desktop.

 

Section One:

Launching Chrome:

One way to Launch Chrome, is to press the Windows key or CTRL+Escape and type Chrome in the search edit field, and press enter when you hear JAWS say Chrome.

However, since you have already downloaded Chrome, You will have a shortcut icon on your desktop.

So next, find the shortcut for Chrome on your desktop, and press enter to open Chrome.

The short cut will actually say Google Chrome, so press G to find the Google Chrome icon on your desktop.

The first very important step, is to press Windows+up arrow to maximise the window. Chrome often opens with the window not maximise, and you will get undesirable results.

 

Section Two:

Bringing up a web site.

Press CTRL+L or Alt+D

and type the following:

www.freedomscientific.com

The Freedom Scientific web site comes up very quickly.

All navigation commands like: H for heading, E for edit field, C for combo box, and so on all work just the same in Chrome.

 

Section Three:

The Virticle Chrome menu:

I will press the Alt key.

The Chrome menu is open.

This is a very large virticle menu that you just keep pressing up and down arrow through.

I will press insert+up arrow to hear the first option in this menu.

New Tab, CTRL+T.

You can press that command right from the web site you are on.

New Window, CTRL+N

You can press these commands right from your web page, instead of coming here.

New incognito Window.

History sub menu.

I will press right arrow here to see what is in this sub menu!

History, CTRL+H

So, there is a key command for reading your history.

You can read a few sites you were on right here.

I will press left arrow to close this history sub menu.

Downloads, CTRL+J

There is the command for opening your downloads you have downloaded with Chrome.

Next, the important Bookmarks sub menu.

I will press right arrow, to open this.

I hear, bookmark this page, CTRL+D

That command will bookmark the page you are reading.

Next down arrow, says show bookmarks bar, CTRL+Shift+B

That command, will show your bookmarks on your Chrome browser for all to see. I do not want that.

Here is the important one.

manage bookmarks

The command is, CTRL+Shift+O

In here, you can organize your bookmarks into folders, see the bookmarks you have imported from different browsers, and very importantly, you can download, to your computer, an HTML file of all of your bookmarks in Chrome.

On your computer, you can press enter on this file, after it downloads, and a page will show up in Chrome with a list of all bookmarks you have saved in Chrome. This is an awesome way to download all of your bookmarks right to your computer, so you can back them up.

That is all for manage bookmarks.

Next, I hear import bookmarks and settings.

press enter on this, and you can import all bookmarks and settings from IE, and Firefox, right into Google Chrome, and they will be in their corresponding folders.

Now, I hear all of my saved bookmarks as I continue to arrow down.

Very important!

Sometimes, when I open that bookmarks sub menu, I do not land on the choices I mension here, but instead, I start hearing my saved bookmarks. If this happens, I press up arrow a few times, and it gets me to these choices.

Keep in mind, that many of these choices, like bookmark manager, have key commands, so you do not have to come to this bookmarks sub menu at all. You only need to come here most of the time, to arrow through your saved bookmarks, and enter on the desired one.

To save a web site as a bookmark,

Just press CTRL+D and press enter, and your bookmark is saved.

I will now press left arrow, to close the Bookmarks sub menu!

I will continue to down arrow through this virticle Chrome menu that we entered by just pressing alt.

The next few are very self explanatory.

The next one I will mension, is the more tools submenu.

I will press right arrow on this.

I hear Save Page as, and the command, CTRL+S.

Next, Save to desktop.

This allows you to save the favorite of the page right to your desktop. This is how you do this in Chrome, instead of doing this in the file menu in IE.

It is hidden under this more tools submenu.

Clear Browsing data, and there is the key command, CTRL+Shift+Delete key.

Extentions, In here, you can add extentions, delete extentions and so on.

These are the same as add ons, in IE.

I will press left arrow, to close the More Tools sub menu, and we are back to the virticle Chrome menu.

The last two that I will mention, are settings, and the help sub menu.

If you press the left arrow on the help sub menu, you can open the help system, just like in other programs, so that is all I will say about help.

Now, we will press enter on settings, and a web like page will open where the virtual cursor will turn on with JAWS, and NVDA will be in Brows mode.

 

Section Four:

Adjusting Settings and Advanced settings:

Now that this web page is open, I will just down arrow down the page and we will deal with each setting.

Important:

I have already signed into Chrome.

So now, arrow down until you hear sign into Chrome and press enter.

You just enter your email address and password, I think it has to be the same email address and password that you used to set up your Google account.

I am not sure about this.

You do not need to sign into Chrome, if you do, you can sync all of your activity between all devices that you have Chrome on. That is the only advantage of signing in.

I will continue with what I hear after you have signed in.

If you do not sign in, press H until you hear Appearance.

Each group of settings is a heading that you can get to by pressing H. This makes it very easy, because you just press H until you hear the group of settings you want to work with.

Now, because I have signed in, this is what I hear before getting to appearance.

The first thing you hear:

Settings.

That is the very top of the web page.

Down arrow, and you hear:

Main Menu Button.

That will just take you back to the virticle menu we were in.

If you down arrow again, you will just hear blank.

Down arrow, again, and you hear:

Settings again, but now, this is a heading. You can get here just by pressing H at the top of the page.

If you down arrow, you hear:

Search Settings.

This is where you can type in a setting that you want to change.

Down arrow again, and there is the edit field where you type in the setting you want to work with.

Down arrow again, and you hear another heading saying people.

Down arrow again, and I hear David Clickable.

This is because I have already signed into Chrome.

Down arrow again, and I hear my Gmail email address.

Again, this is because I have already signed into Chrome to sync my settings and all of that.

Down arrow again, and I hear:

Edit person.

This is where I could change my name.

Down arrow again, and I hear:

Sign Out.

This is because I have already signed in to Chrome.

Down arrow again, and I hear:

Sync.

Down arrow again, and I hear:

On, Sync everything.

This is a combo box, where you can choose what to sinc; I chose everything in this combo box.

Again, all of this is because I have signed into Chrome already.

Down arrow again, and you hear:

Sync button.

Down arrow again, and you hear:

Manage other people clickable.

Don't worry about the clickables. There is a clickable for many things, but then there is the button you enter on right after that.

Down arrow again, and you hear:

Manage other people button.

This is what you would press enter on to set up another user.

Down arrow again, and you hear:

Import bookmarks and settings Clickable:

Down arrow again, and you actually hear

Import bookmarks and settings button.

Here, you press enter and import all of your bookmarks and settings from other Browsers like IE.

This is another way of doing this, because remember,

We had a choice of manage bookmarks in the book marks sub menu in the virticle menu.

There is more than one place to do things in Chrome.

Now, we have a series of headings, that you can just press H for heading, to get to.

Now, we have gotten to the appearance heading. Down arrow and you hear:

themes, which I did nothing with.

Next, you can open the Chrome web store. You can get hundreds of extentions, and more.

Then, you hear Themes button.

Do nothing with this.

Next, you hear:

Show home clickable.

Just skip that.

There are many buttons that say clickable, and then there is a button that you actually press enter on to work with it.

Just work with the buttons, and skip over these vclickables.

Down arrow, and you have an edit box where you can put in your home page you want to get to by pressing Alt+Home.

Next, there is the home button toggle.

Press the spacebar to turn this on or off. If it is on, you can have the home button show at the top of the Chrome Window.

I have it checked.

Now, there are two radio buttons, and I chose the one to enter with a custom web address.

Search Heading:

We are at another heading, where you can set your search Engine.

There is a combo box below, and I set it to Chrome, because I like to have my searches from the address bar done with Crome instead of Bing.

Next heading:

Default Browser.

Here, you can choose weather you want Chrome to be your default browser or not.

Just leave this alone if you do not want Chrome to be your default browser.

Next Important heading:

On Start up.

Here is where you put in your URL that you want to show as soon as you start Chrome.

There are three radio buttons to pick from, but I chose to open with a specific page or pages, which is the third radio button.

Under this, you can type in the URL of the web site that you want to open when you start Chrome.

Under this, there is a link where you can add more pages you want to show when Chrome starts up.

Now, we are up to the search engin heading.

This is a heading.

There are headings on this settings page.

I chose to use Google search engin in the address bar. This is a combo box.

The next heading, is on start up.

Finally, here is where you set up your home page.

There are three radio buttons here.

I chose the third one, to open a selected page or selected pages.

Next, I was able to enter:

www.Google.Com.

That is my home page that will open each time I start Chrome.

Next important group of settings, the advanced settings.

Now, you have to press enter on the advanced settings button before more headings of settings will show.

The Advanced settings are collapsed, so you have to press enter to show more headings of settings.

Now that these advanced settings are open, we get to the next heading of settings.

There is much more we can customize under the advanced settings.

Privacy and security heading:

Down arrow from here, and you hear:

Use a web service to resolve navigation errors.

You have a clickable, and a toggle.

Press spacebar to toggle this on or off.

Again, ignore the clickables.

Now you have:

Use a prodiction service to enable you in searches.

I left this unchecked.

Next, you have a setting to speed up the loading of web pages:

I checked this with spacebar.

The next three settings I just left alone.

I checked the one that says:

Use a web service to help with spelling.

I leave manage certificates alone.

Next, you have content settings, but this is not a new heading.

We are still working with the same heading.

The only thing of interest here, is the clear history button.

This was available in the virtical menu, so don't worry about this.

Now, we get to the next heading of settings.

Passwords and forms:

Under this heading, just make sure that you check to be able to have Chrome save passwords.

Languages Heading:

I did nothing with this.

Downloads heading:

This is where you choose where you want your downloads to be saved on your computer.

Printing heading:

I did nothing with this.

Accessibility heading:

I did nothing with this.

Now, we have the System heading:

Down arrow, and you hear:

Continue running background apps, when Google Chrome is Closed.

I have this unchecked.

Next,

Use hard ware excelloration when Available.

I have this checked.

Next, you hear:

Open proxy settings button.

I left this alone.

Last Heading LOL!

Reset.

Here, you can reset all settings back to their origional.

We are done with Settings.

Now, just press CTRL+F4 to get back to the Freedom Scientific Web site.

This settings web page, opens in another tab.

That is it for settings.

Notice, we made a lot of changes under the advanced settings. You cannot see these, unless you press enter to expand these.

Now, press the Alt key again. Up arrow once to get to the end of the menu where we were with the settings.

You see exit, up arrow and you see the help sub menu, right under the settings choice.

I press right arrow on this help sub menu, and you can enter on the help center to get a lot of help using Chrome.

To open a web site, just press CTRL+L or Alt+D and type the URL.

Chrome for me, is so much quicker with web sites that involve streamming TV and Watching movies, and so on.

For me, Chrome opens large news sites very quickly compared to IE.

Lastly, All JAWS and NVDA navigation key commands work in Chrome. For example, you can press F7 to open a list of links with JAWS, and the elements list with NVDA. All of that is the exact same.

This is the end of the tutorial.

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Val Paul
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 1:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Updating win10 on new pcHI

 

Hi Michael!

That would be good.

Just installed it a few moments, but can't seem to get to where i can set my home page. Mind you, haven't reall explored it yet, and no doubt, if there any disasters to be performed, then, you can be sure i'll be the one to perform them!

Mly name shouldn't be Val, but disaster queen!

 

Val.

On 24/11/2018 18:02, Michael Munn wrote:

Congrat on your upgrade to Windows10.

If you need an assistant on learning Google Chrome I would be glad to help.

Thanks 

Best Regards 

Michael Munn 

Michael Munn

Member:

Virginia Association of Blind students 

Member:

Maryland Association of Blind Students 

Students of:

Hadley Institute of the Blind

Hadley 

 

 

On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 12:44 PM Val Paul <vpcara79@...> wrote:

Hi Marty!

When I wrote my message, i hadn't installed jaws, but used narrator to
guide med through the process!

My friend came just after lunch, and had a look, and it had just
finished updating.

I've now got Jaws reinstalled, and everything seems to be fine!

I'm now going to install krome, as internet explorer doesn't work very
well for me amy more. This will be a learning period for me.


Val.

On 24/11/2018 15:24, Marty Hutchings wrote:
> Are you even sure that the refurbished machine has JAWS on it?
>
>
>
> Love in Christ
> Marty
> -----Original Message----- From: Kimber Gardner
> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 1:25 AM
> To: main@jfw.groups.io
> Subject: Re: Updating win10 on new pcHI
>
> Hi,
>
> So if I'm understanding correctly, you updated this new windows 10
> computer a few days ago and jaws hasn't spoken since?
>
> Try turning on Narrator which is the built-in windows screen reader.
> The key combo to do this is windows + control +enter. This key combo
> is a toggle so press it once to turn narrator on and press it again to
> turn it off. Using it you will be able to see what's going on and get
> to the jaws icon so you can start jaws. At the very least you will be
> able to see what's on your screen.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Kim
>
> On 11/23/18, Val Paul <vpcara79@...> wrote:
>> Hi good friends!
>> As you can see by this email, i’ve had to resort to my Iphone to send
>> this.
>> I would be glad of some help. [always seem to require help these
>> days] As
>> i’ve been having trouble with the USB drives on my pc, i took my pc to a
>> friend who has become the manager of a new computer shop just open.
>> Actually, he came to see me as i’m not walking very well with my hip
>> which i
>> recently broke.
>> He took away my pc and brought m me a refurbished one.
>> What i’d like help with is when i set it up, it said that i was well
>> out of
>> date, so installed the update helper, this was on Wednesday and it still
>> hasn’t spoke to tell me if i’ve installed it correctly.
>> How can i check this please?
>> Sorry for sending such a long message, but i’m trying my best to give
>> you
>> the correct details.
>>
>> Val.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>


 


Re: Jaws 2018 Update on desktop with window 10

O.Addison Gethers
 

Mario When I press insert J to Jaws window I press alt O option menu then it's say basic voice then I press enter then tab to it's say update notification it's say not check so I press spacebar to checks then tab to OK button then press spacebar !! I just read your message in here what are you saying about aware something I need to do ??I'm getting little confused here since I already checks on notification

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 3:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2018 Update on desktop with window 10

be aware, what I provided is the path to where you'll find the setting.

if you have JAWS starting up from the system tray or not, you'll have to
adjust what you have to do. do you know what to do?

-------- Original Message --------
From: O.Addison Gethers [mailto:o.addisongethers@...]
Sent: Sat, Nov 24, 2018 1:43 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws 2018 Update on desktop with window 10

Thank you Mario and will check to see if notification is checks or not if
not then I need to press spacebar to check it right


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 10:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2018 Update on desktop with window 10

is Automatic Notification of Updates check box checked?

insert+j, options menu, basics submenu, tab to Automatic Notification of
Updates check box, and spacebar to check if it is not already checked.


-------- Original Message --------
From: O.Addison Gethers [mailto:o.addisongethers@...]
Sent: Sat, Nov 24, 2018 10:30 AM EST
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws 2018 Update on desktop with window 10

Hello All I have desktop computer window 10 and jaws 2018 I noticed this
is sound strange about jaws update window never came on to asked me if I
want toinstall jaws update because when I turns on my laptop computer on
Tuesday morning I heard the window screen came open to say do I want to
install jaws update now !! Can anyone tell me why is my desktop is not
doing that? What do I need to do to fix this problem?

Addison

















.


Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

Cristóbal
 

You're limiting yourself if you stick to that criteria. Besides, laptops with drives are going to be exceedingly more difficult to find in the future. Maybe if you search for a big and bulky device or perhaps a gaming system, but then you're probably going to end up paying a premium for a feature that isn't necessary to have built in.
Remember, you can always buy an optical drive as an external add on and use as needed. They cost something like $20. Nothing really.
My HP Envy doesn't have a drive or even an ethernet port. Haven't had the need of a drive in the nearly two years that I have it and I simply bought a USBC to ethernet high transfer rate adaptor in case I ever need it if I'm traveling or if I want to hard wire my laptop to my home network. So far, I haven't used it, but it's there just in case. Cost me something like $12.

Cristóbal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 11:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

I don't buy laptops without dvd drives or numbers pad. Smile.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...

Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
~ Blaise Pascal ~

On 11/24/2018 2:21 PM, Tom Behler wrote:
Great suggestion, Maria, but my new Dell Windows 10 laptop does not have a DVD drive.

Not trying to be difficult; in fact, you need to know that I'm smiling as I write this.

A little levity is good for the soul every once in a while.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria
Campbell
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 2:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

The way I check on my laptop is to try opening my dvd drive. If it opens, laptop is still on; if not ...



Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...

Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
~ Blaise Pascal ~

On 11/24/2018 2:14 PM, mike mcglashon wrote:
Good idea marty:
However,
I know of an easier way to tell if comp is on/off; When listening to
turn it off, Just put your ear on comp, When you no longer hear the
motor whirring, Then it is off; Likewise, When turning it on, After
pushing button, Put ear next to comp and listen for motor to start
up;


Mike mcglashon
Email: Michael.mcglashon@...
Ph: 618 783 9331

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty
Hutchings
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 2:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

Tom and others, I have a very low tech way of knowing if your machine is completely shut down or not. I love listening to the Chicago Bears football games on a small transister radio, remember those? I listen on AM 780 WBBM.
When my computer is on, there is a loud high pitch squeel on the radio.
This goes away the minute the computer shuts down. Just keep a small AM radio near your computer. Turn it on before shutting down and wait for the radio signal to clear up and then you know that your computer is completely off.



Love in Christ
Marty
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 10:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

Very interesting, Sieghard.

I guess I can live without the shutdown sound, and figure out other ways to determine whether my computer has indeed shut down.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 11:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

That has been discussed a few times on the list. There is no simple checkbox to turn on the shutdown sound, you have to create an elevated task using the Task Manager to do this. I did quite a long time ago and it was not very reliable, but since the 1809 update which I happened to get in early October before it was pulled, the shutdown sound is I think consistent on my laptop.
I should say that I did not bother to do this on my work desktops. As was mentioned in previous discussions, hearing the shutdown sound is not a 100% guaranty the computer has in fact shut down. I had it a few times when I thought I shut down my laptop in the morning only to find when I cam ehome at night that it was not shut down because something had blocked the shutdown, the sound played, but then the computer didn't shut down.
I believe there is also a way to do this in the registry with one of these registry hacks one can download.


Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 8:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

And, if anyone knows how to turn on a sound when your computer shuts down, that would be appreciated.

I found the startup sound, but can't find the shut-down sound.

Right now, I don't have a good way to tell that my new Windows 10 computer has completely shut down.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimber
Gardner
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 3:14 AM
To: main <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: A question about system sounds in windows 10

Hi all,

On my new windows 10 laptop, I would like to set up a few system sounds associated with certain events. For example, under windows 7, I used to hear a ding when my cursor encountered the top or bottom of the current window. Also, I used to hear a sound when a download completed. Although I've found the system sounds in settings and reviewed the list of program events, I can't figure out how to set these sounds. Can anyone help?

Thanks in advance.

Kim

--
Kimberly

























Program Event For Top & Bottom Alert With Sound

Mike B. <mike9902@...>
 

Hi All,
 
The Program Event   , Default Beep, is what the program / sound event is called that you would assign a sound to, if you want to hear a sound when you go to the top or bottom
of a file.  This program / sound event is found in Windows sounds of the Sounds link in the control panel.
 
 
Take care.  Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
I type out everything I want to remember. That way instead of spending a lot of time trying to remember what it was, I spend the time looking for where I saved it!


Re: Jaws 2018 Update on desktop with window 10

Mario
 

be aware, what I provided is the path to where you'll find the setting.

if you have JAWS starting up from the system tray or not, you'll have to
adjust what you have to do. do you know what to do?

-------- Original Message --------
From: O.Addison Gethers [mailto:o.addisongethers@...]
Sent: Sat, Nov 24, 2018 1:43 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws 2018 Update on desktop with window 10

Thank you Mario and will check to see if notification is checks or not if
not then I need to press spacebar to check it right


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 10:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2018 Update on desktop with window 10

is Automatic Notification of Updates check box checked?

insert+j, options menu, basics submenu, tab to Automatic Notification of
Updates check box, and spacebar to check if it is not already checked.


-------- Original Message --------
From: O.Addison Gethers [mailto:o.addisongethers@...]
Sent: Sat, Nov 24, 2018 10:30 AM EST
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws 2018 Update on desktop with window 10

Hello All I have desktop computer window 10 and jaws 2018 I noticed this
is sound strange about jaws update window never came on to asked me if I
want toinstall jaws update because when I turns on my laptop computer on
Tuesday morning I heard the window screen came open to say do I want to
install jaws update now !! Can anyone tell me why is my desktop is not
doing that? What do I need to do to fix this problem?

Addison

















.


Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

Mario
 

as my friend tried with his Windows 10 system, the reg hack doesn't play
the sound at shutdown, even though the Exit Windows event is revealed in
the system sound event list. oh well.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@...]
Sent: Sat, Nov 24, 2018 2:02 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: A question about system sounds in windows 10

Thanks, Richard, although I'm reluctant to start messing around in the
registry.

I think that, if I really find that I just can't live without the
shut-down sound, my best bet would be to call the Microsoft
Accessibility hotline.

Why microsoft decided to hide those very basic sound controls is beyond
me; but it is what it is, as they say.

Tom Behler




-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 1:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

I found a nice detailed article on how to do this in the registry, which
does bring the options back to the control panel sounds scheme, but it
had no impact on my system. I selected sounds for exit Windows, Windows
logon and Windows logoff and no sound plays. I tried it both with Fast
startup on and with it off.
But, if you want to try it out, it is rather easy.
Here is the complete text with the link to the page:
The following was copied from the How To Geek page:
https://www.howtogeek.com/274010/how-to-change-the-windows-10-logoff-logon-and-shutdown-sounds-in-windows-10/

How to Change the Windows 10 Logoff, Logon, and Shutdown Sounds in
Windows 10 Walter Glenn @wjglenn September 29, 2016, 11:23am EDT
Before Windows 10 came along, we were free to change the sounds that
played when we shut down, logged off, or logged on to Windows. For some
reason, Microsoft hid those sound actions from being modified in Windows
10. Here’s how to get them back.
RELATED: How to Make Windows Play a Sound When You Press Caps Lock, Num
Lock, or Scroll Lock Windows has always been pretty good about letting
you customize every nook and cranny of the OS, including what sounds
played for all kinds of different system events. You can even make
Windows play a sound when you toggle your Caps Lock, Scroll Lock, and
Num Lock keys. While you can still customize what sounds sounds play for
most OS events, Windows 10 hid shut down, logoff, and logon from view.
They’re still around, though. You just need to make a few mild changes
in the Windows Registry to get them back.
Add the Actions Back to the Sound Control Panel by Editing the Registry
To add the shutdown, logoff, and logon actions back to the menu in the
Sound Control Panel app, you just need to make a few little tweaks in
the Windows Registry.
Standard warning: Registry Editor is a powerful tool and misusing it can
render your system unstable or even inoperable. This is a pretty simple
hack and as long as you stick to the instructions, you shouldn’t have
any problems. That said, if you’ve never worked with it before, consider
reading about how to use the Registry Editor before you get started. And
definitely back up the Registry (and your computer!) before making changes.
Open the Registry Editor by hitting Start and typing “regedit.” Press
Enter to open Registry Editor and then give it permission to make
changes to your PC.

In the Registry Editor, use the left sidebar to navigate to the
following key:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\AppEvents\EventLabels

You’re going to be making one small change in each of three different
subkeys inside that EventLabels key. First, we’ll tackle the shutdown
sound or, as Windows likes to call it, System Exit. Under the
EventLabels key on the left side of Registry Editor, select the
SystemExit subkey. On the right side, double-click the ExcludeFromCPL value.

Note that by default, the value is 1, meaning that the action is
excluded from the Control Panel. Change the value to 0 and then click “OK.”

Next, you’re going to make exactly the same change in two other subkeys
inside the EventLabels key: WindowsLogoff and WindowsLogon . Head into
each of those folders, open the ExcludeFromCPL value inside, and change
the value from 1 to 0.

No need to restart Windows. You can go ahead and test your changes right
away. Open up the Sound Control Panel app by right-clicking the speaker
icon in your Notification Area and selecting “Sounds.”

You should now see the new actions (Exit Windows, Windows Logoff, and
Windows Logon) available in the selection window and you can assign
whatever sounds you like to those actions.

If, for whatever reason, you want to hide those actions from the Control
Panel again, just head back into Registry Editor and change each of
those ExcludeFromCPL values back to 1.
Download Our One-Click Registry Hacks

If you don’t feel like diving into the Registry yourself, we’ve created
some registry hacks you can use. Download and unzip them first. Inside,
you’ll find three folders named “System Exit Sound Hacks,” “Windows
Logon Sound Hacks,” and “Windows Logoff Sound Hacks.” Inside each of
those folders, you’ll find two hacks: one for adding the action to the
Sounds Control Panel and one for removing the action again. Double-click
the hack you want to use and click through the prompts. When you’ve
applied the hack you want, the changes will take place immediately. No
need to restart Windows.
Shutdown-Logoff-Logon Sound Hacks
RELATED: How to Make Your Own Windows Registry Hacks These hacks are
really just the individual SystemExit, WindowsLogoff, and WindowsLogon
subkeys, stripped down to the ExcludeFromCPL values we talked about in
the previous section and then exported to a .REG file. Running either of
the hacks sets that value to the appropriate number. And if you enjoy
fiddling with the Registry, it’s worth taking the time to learn how to
make your own Registry hacks.




“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip
under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 8:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

Very interesting, Sieghard.

I guess I can live without the shutdown sound, and figure out other ways
to determine whether my computer has indeed shut down.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 11:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

That has been discussed a few times on the list. There is no simple
checkbox to turn on the shutdown sound, you have to create an elevated
task using the Task Manager to do this. I did quite a long time ago and
it was not very reliable, but since the 1809 update which I happened to
get in early October before it was pulled, the shutdown sound is I think
consistent on my laptop. I should say that I did not bother to do this
on my work desktops. As was mentioned in previous discussions, hearing
the shutdown sound is not a 100% guaranty the computer has in fact shut
down. I had it a few times when I thought I shut down my laptop in the
morning only to find when I cam ehome at night that it was not shut down
because something had blocked the shutdown, the sound played, but then
the computer didn't shut down.
I believe there is also a way to do this in the registry with one of
these registry hacks one can download.


Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 8:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

And, if anyone knows how to turn on a sound when your computer shuts
down, that would be appreciated.

I found the startup sound, but can't find the shut-down sound.

Right now, I don't have a good way to tell that my new Windows 10
computer has completely shut down.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 3:14 AM
To: main <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: A question about system sounds in windows 10

Hi all,

On my new windows 10 laptop, I would like to set up a few system sounds
associated with certain events. For example, under windows 7, I used to
hear a ding when my cursor encountered the top or bottom of the current
window. Also, I used to hear a sound when a download completed. Although
I've found the system sounds in settings and reviewed the list of
program events, I can't figure out how to set these sounds. Can anyone help?

Thanks in advance.

Kim

--
Kimberly





















.


Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

Richard Turner
 

I elected to get a Dell laptop without a DVD drive or a number pad because of cost and I mostly use it at my desk with a full USB keyboard and I could get an external Dell DVD drive at my local Best Buy for $35 that is faster than the one that would have come built-in for at least $50, so, all in all, a good deal for me, and I use the DVD player as the power off check since this laptop has an SSD drive that is almost impossible to hear.

Richard
.



“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Val Paul
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 11:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

Hi Maria!

Over here in Scotland, it's very hard to get pc's with dvd or disk drives.


Val.

On 24/11/2018 19:22, Maria Campbell wrote:
I don't buy laptops without dvd drives or numbers pad.  Smile.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...

Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
~ Blaise Pascal ~

On 11/24/2018 2:21 PM, Tom Behler wrote:
Great suggestion, Maria, but my new Dell Windows 10 laptop does not
have a DVD drive.

Not trying to be difficult;  in fact, you need to know that I'm
smiling as I write this.

A little levity is good for the soul every once in a while.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria
Campbell
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 2:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

The way I check on my laptop is to try opening my dvd drive.  If it
opens, laptop is still on; if not ...



Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...

Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
~ Blaise Pascal ~

On 11/24/2018 2:14 PM, mike mcglashon wrote:
Good idea marty:
However,
I know of an easier way to tell if comp is on/off; When listening to
turn it off, Just put your ear on comp, When you no longer hear the
motor whirring, Then it is off; Likewise, When turning it on, After
pushing button, Put ear next to comp and listen for motor to start
up;


Mike mcglashon
Email: Michael.mcglashon@...
Ph: 618 783 9331

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty
Hutchings
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 2:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

Tom and others,  I have a very low tech way of knowing if your
machine is completely shut down or not.  I love listening to the
Chicago Bears football games on a small transister radio, remember
those?  I listen on AM 780 WBBM.
When my computer is on, there is a loud high pitch squeel on the radio.
This goes away the minute the computer shuts down.  Just keep a
small AM radio near your computer.  Turn it on before shutting down
and wait for the radio signal to clear up and then you know that
your computer is completely off.



Love in Christ
Marty
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 10:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

Very interesting, Sieghard.

I guess I can live without the shutdown sound, and figure out other
ways to determine whether my computer has indeed shut down.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 11:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

That has been discussed a few times on the list. There is no simple
checkbox to turn on the shutdown sound, you have to create an
elevated task using the Task Manager to do this. I did quite a long
time ago and it was not very reliable, but since the 1809 update
which I happened to get in early October before it was pulled, the
shutdown sound is I think consistent on my laptop.
I should say that I did not bother to do this on my work desktops.
As was mentioned in previous discussions, hearing the shutdown sound
is not a 100% guaranty the computer has in fact shut down. I had it
a few times when I thought I shut down my laptop in the morning only
to find when I cam ehome at night that it was not shut down because
something had blocked the shutdown, the sound played, but then the
computer didn't shut down.
I believe there is also a way to do this in the registry with one of
these registry hacks one can download.


Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom
Behler
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 8:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

And, if anyone knows how to turn on a sound when your computer shuts
down, that would be appreciated.

I found the startup sound, but can't find the shut-down sound.

Right now, I don't have a good way to tell that my new Windows 10
computer has completely shut down.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimber
Gardner
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 3:14 AM
To: main <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: A question about system sounds in windows 10

Hi all,

On my new windows 10 laptop, I would like to set up a few system
sounds associated  with certain events. For example, under windows
7, I used to hear a ding when my cursor encountered the top or
bottom of the current window. Also, I used to hear a sound when a
download completed. Although I've found the system sounds in
settings and reviewed the list of program events, I can't figure out
how to set these sounds. Can anyone help?

Thanks in advance.

Kim

--
Kimberly

























Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

Val Paul
 

Hi Maria!

Over here in Scotland, it's very hard to get pc's with dvd or disk drives.


Val.

On 24/11/2018 19:22, Maria Campbell wrote:
I don't buy laptops without dvd drives or numbers pad.  Smile.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...

Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
~ Blaise Pascal ~

On 11/24/2018 2:21 PM, Tom Behler wrote:
Great suggestion, Maria, but my new Dell Windows 10 laptop does not have a DVD drive.

Not trying to be difficult;  in fact, you need to know that I'm smiling as I write this.

A little levity is good for the soul every once in a while.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 2:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

The way I check on my laptop is to try opening my dvd drive.  If it opens, laptop is still on; if not ...



Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...

Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
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On 11/24/2018 2:14 PM, mike mcglashon wrote:
Good idea marty:
However,
I know of an easier way to tell if comp is on/off;
When listening to turn it off,
Just put your ear on comp,
When you no longer hear the motor whirring,
Then it is off;
Likewise,
When turning it on,
After pushing button,
Put ear next to comp and listen for motor to start up;


Mike mcglashon
Email: Michael.mcglashon@...
Ph: 618 783 9331

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 2:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

Tom and others,  I have a very low tech way of knowing if your machine is completely shut down or not.  I love listening to the Chicago Bears football games on a small transister radio, remember those?  I listen on AM 780 WBBM.
When my computer is on, there is a loud high pitch squeel on the radio.
This goes away the minute the computer shuts down.  Just keep a small AM radio near your computer.  Turn it on before shutting down and wait for the radio signal to clear up and then you know that your computer is completely off.



Love in Christ
Marty
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 10:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

Very interesting, Sieghard.

I guess I can live without the shutdown sound, and figure out other ways to determine whether my computer has indeed shut down.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 11:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

That has been discussed a few times on the list. There is no simple checkbox to turn on the shutdown sound, you have to create an elevated task using the Task Manager to do this. I did quite a long time ago and it was not very reliable, but since the 1809 update which I happened to get in early October before it was pulled, the shutdown sound is I think consistent on my laptop.
I should say that I did not bother to do this on my work desktops. As was mentioned in previous discussions, hearing the shutdown sound is not a 100% guaranty the computer has in fact shut down. I had it a few times when I thought I shut down my laptop in the morning only to find when I cam ehome at night that it was not shut down because something had blocked the shutdown, the sound played, but then the computer didn't shut down.
I believe there is also a way to do this in the registry with one of these registry hacks one can download.


Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 8:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

And, if anyone knows how to turn on a sound when your computer shuts down, that would be appreciated.

I found the startup sound, but can't find the shut-down sound.

Right now, I don't have a good way to tell that my new Windows 10 computer has completely shut down.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 3:14 AM
To: main <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: A question about system sounds in windows 10

Hi all,

On my new windows 10 laptop, I would like to set up a few system sounds associated  with certain events. For example, under windows 7, I used to hear a ding when my cursor encountered the top or bottom of the current window. Also, I used to hear a sound when a download completed. Although I've found the system sounds in settings and reviewed the list of program events, I can't figure out how to set these sounds. Can anyone help?

Thanks in advance.

Kim

--
Kimberly
























Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

Gerald Levy
 

Another way to tell that your computer has shut down is to connect a portable hard drive to one of its USB ports. At least with my WD Passport portable drive, I can feel the motor whirring away when it is connected to my desktop. If I leave it connected, and then shut down my desktop, the motor stops whirring when the power is cut off.

Gerald

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 2:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

Well, that certainly could work!

Thanks, Marty.

Tom Behler



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 2:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

Tom and others, I have a very low tech way of knowing if your machine is completely shut down or not. I love listening to the Chicago Bears football games on a small transister radio, remember those? I listen on AM 780 WBBM.
When my computer is on, there is a loud high pitch squeel on the radio.
This goes away the minute the computer shuts down. Just keep a small AM radio near your computer. Turn it on before shutting down and wait for the radio signal to clear up and then you know that your computer is completely off.



Love in Christ
Marty
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 10:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

Very interesting, Sieghard.

I guess I can live without the shutdown sound, and figure out other ways to determine whether my computer has indeed shut down.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 11:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

That has been discussed a few times on the list. There is no simple checkbox to turn on the shutdown sound, you have to create an elevated task using the Task Manager to do this. I did quite a long time ago and it was not very reliable, but since the 1809 update which I happened to get in early October before it was pulled, the shutdown sound is I think consistent on my laptop.
I should say that I did not bother to do this on my work desktops. As was mentioned in previous discussions, hearing the shutdown sound is not a 100% guaranty the computer has in fact shut down. I had it a few times when I thought I shut down my laptop in the morning only to find when I cam ehome at night that it was not shut down because something had blocked the shutdown, the sound played, but then the computer didn't shut down.
I believe there is also a way to do this in the registry with one of these registry hacks one can download.


Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 8:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

And, if anyone knows how to turn on a sound when your computer shuts down, that would be appreciated.

I found the startup sound, but can't find the shut-down sound.

Right now, I don't have a good way to tell that my new Windows 10 computer has completely shut down.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 3:14 AM
To: main <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: A question about system sounds in windows 10

Hi all,

On my new windows 10 laptop, I would like to set up a few system sounds associated with certain events. For example, under windows 7, I used to hear a ding when my cursor encountered the top or bottom of the current window. Also, I used to hear a sound when a download completed. Although I've found the system sounds in settings and reviewed the list of program events, I can't figure out how to set these sounds. Can anyone help?

Thanks in advance.

Kim

--
Kimberly


Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

Maria Campbell
 

I don't buy laptops without dvd drives or numbers pad.  Smile.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...

Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
~ Blaise Pascal ~

On 11/24/2018 2:21 PM, Tom Behler wrote:
Great suggestion, Maria, but my new Dell Windows 10 laptop does not have a DVD drive.

Not trying to be difficult; in fact, you need to know that I'm smiling as I write this.

A little levity is good for the soul every once in a while.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 2:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

The way I check on my laptop is to try opening my dvd drive. If it opens, laptop is still on; if not ...



Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...

Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
~ Blaise Pascal ~

On 11/24/2018 2:14 PM, mike mcglashon wrote:
Good idea marty:
However,
I know of an easier way to tell if comp is on/off;
When listening to turn it off,
Just put your ear on comp,
When you no longer hear the motor whirring,
Then it is off;
Likewise,
When turning it on,
After pushing button,
Put ear next to comp and listen for motor to start up;


Mike mcglashon
Email: Michael.mcglashon@...
Ph: 618 783 9331

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 2:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

Tom and others, I have a very low tech way of knowing if your machine is completely shut down or not. I love listening to the Chicago Bears football games on a small transister radio, remember those? I listen on AM 780 WBBM.
When my computer is on, there is a loud high pitch squeel on the radio.
This goes away the minute the computer shuts down. Just keep a small AM radio near your computer. Turn it on before shutting down and wait for the radio signal to clear up and then you know that your computer is completely off.



Love in Christ
Marty
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 10:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

Very interesting, Sieghard.

I guess I can live without the shutdown sound, and figure out other ways to determine whether my computer has indeed shut down.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 11:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

That has been discussed a few times on the list. There is no simple checkbox to turn on the shutdown sound, you have to create an elevated task using the Task Manager to do this. I did quite a long time ago and it was not very reliable, but since the 1809 update which I happened to get in early October before it was pulled, the shutdown sound is I think consistent on my laptop.
I should say that I did not bother to do this on my work desktops. As was mentioned in previous discussions, hearing the shutdown sound is not a 100% guaranty the computer has in fact shut down. I had it a few times when I thought I shut down my laptop in the morning only to find when I cam ehome at night that it was not shut down because something had blocked the shutdown, the sound played, but then the computer didn't shut down.
I believe there is also a way to do this in the registry with one of these registry hacks one can download.


Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 8:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

And, if anyone knows how to turn on a sound when your computer shuts down, that would be appreciated.

I found the startup sound, but can't find the shut-down sound.

Right now, I don't have a good way to tell that my new Windows 10 computer has completely shut down.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 3:14 AM
To: main <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: A question about system sounds in windows 10

Hi all,

On my new windows 10 laptop, I would like to set up a few system sounds associated with certain events. For example, under windows 7, I used to hear a ding when my cursor encountered the top or bottom of the current window. Also, I used to hear a sound when a download completed. Although I've found the system sounds in settings and reviewed the list of program events, I can't figure out how to set these sounds. Can anyone help?

Thanks in advance.

Kim

--
Kimberly























Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

Tom Behler
 

Great suggestion, Maria, but my new Dell Windows 10 laptop does not have a DVD drive.

Not trying to be difficult; in fact, you need to know that I'm smiling as I write this.

A little levity is good for the soul every once in a while.

Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 2:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

The way I check on my laptop is to try opening my dvd drive. If it opens, laptop is still on; if not ...



Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...

Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
~ Blaise Pascal ~

On 11/24/2018 2:14 PM, mike mcglashon wrote:
Good idea marty:
However,
I know of an easier way to tell if comp is on/off;
When listening to turn it off,
Just put your ear on comp,
When you no longer hear the motor whirring,
Then it is off;
Likewise,
When turning it on,
After pushing button,
Put ear next to comp and listen for motor to start up;


Mike mcglashon
Email: Michael.mcglashon@...
Ph: 618 783 9331

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 2:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

Tom and others, I have a very low tech way of knowing if your machine is completely shut down or not. I love listening to the Chicago Bears football games on a small transister radio, remember those? I listen on AM 780 WBBM.
When my computer is on, there is a loud high pitch squeel on the radio.
This goes away the minute the computer shuts down. Just keep a small AM radio near your computer. Turn it on before shutting down and wait for the radio signal to clear up and then you know that your computer is completely off.



Love in Christ
Marty
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 10:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

Very interesting, Sieghard.

I guess I can live without the shutdown sound, and figure out other ways to determine whether my computer has indeed shut down.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 11:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

That has been discussed a few times on the list. There is no simple checkbox to turn on the shutdown sound, you have to create an elevated task using the Task Manager to do this. I did quite a long time ago and it was not very reliable, but since the 1809 update which I happened to get in early October before it was pulled, the shutdown sound is I think consistent on my laptop.
I should say that I did not bother to do this on my work desktops. As was mentioned in previous discussions, hearing the shutdown sound is not a 100% guaranty the computer has in fact shut down. I had it a few times when I thought I shut down my laptop in the morning only to find when I cam ehome at night that it was not shut down because something had blocked the shutdown, the sound played, but then the computer didn't shut down.
I believe there is also a way to do this in the registry with one of these registry hacks one can download.


Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 8:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

And, if anyone knows how to turn on a sound when your computer shuts down, that would be appreciated.

I found the startup sound, but can't find the shut-down sound.

Right now, I don't have a good way to tell that my new Windows 10 computer has completely shut down.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 3:14 AM
To: main <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: A question about system sounds in windows 10

Hi all,

On my new windows 10 laptop, I would like to set up a few system sounds associated with certain events. For example, under windows 7, I used to hear a ding when my cursor encountered the top or bottom of the current window. Also, I used to hear a sound when a download completed. Although I've found the system sounds in settings and reviewed the list of program events, I can't figure out how to set these sounds. Can anyone help?

Thanks in advance.

Kim

--
Kimberly





















Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

Tom Behler
 

This is exactly what I try to do, but that's not always possible in a work environment like where I volunteer.

Turning the computer on is no problem because I get the startup sound, and then Jaws comes on at the log-on screen.

It's just shutting down, and knowing that it has happened, where I have the issue.

Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of mike mcglashon
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 2:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

Good idea marty:
However,
I know of an easier way to tell if comp is on/off; When listening to turn it off, Just put your ear on comp, When you no longer hear the motor whirring, Then it is off; Likewise, When turning it on, After pushing button, Put ear next to comp and listen for motor to start up;


Mike mcglashon
Email: Michael.mcglashon@...
Ph: 618 783 9331

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 2:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

Tom and others, I have a very low tech way of knowing if your machine is completely shut down or not. I love listening to the Chicago Bears football games on a small transister radio, remember those? I listen on AM 780 WBBM.
When my computer is on, there is a loud high pitch squeel on the radio.
This goes away the minute the computer shuts down. Just keep a small AM radio near your computer. Turn it on before shutting down and wait for the radio signal to clear up and then you know that your computer is completely off.



Love in Christ
Marty
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 10:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

Very interesting, Sieghard.

I guess I can live without the shutdown sound, and figure out other ways to determine whether my computer has indeed shut down.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 11:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

That has been discussed a few times on the list. There is no simple checkbox to turn on the shutdown sound, you have to create an elevated task using the Task Manager to do this. I did quite a long time ago and it was not very reliable, but since the 1809 update which I happened to get in early October before it was pulled, the shutdown sound is I think consistent on my laptop.
I should say that I did not bother to do this on my work desktops. As was mentioned in previous discussions, hearing the shutdown sound is not a 100% guaranty the computer has in fact shut down. I had it a few times when I thought I shut down my laptop in the morning only to find when I cam ehome at night that it was not shut down because something had blocked the shutdown, the sound played, but then the computer didn't shut down.
I believe there is also a way to do this in the registry with one of these registry hacks one can download.


Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 8:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A question about system sounds in windows 10

And, if anyone knows how to turn on a sound when your computer shuts down, that would be appreciated.

I found the startup sound, but can't find the shut-down sound.

Right now, I don't have a good way to tell that my new Windows 10 computer has completely shut down.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 3:14 AM
To: main <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: A question about system sounds in windows 10

Hi all,

On my new windows 10 laptop, I would like to set up a few system sounds associated with certain events. For example, under windows 7, I used to hear a ding when my cursor encountered the top or bottom of the current window. Also, I used to hear a sound when a download completed. Although I've found the system sounds in settings and reviewed the list of program events, I can't figure out how to set these sounds. Can anyone help?

Thanks in advance.

Kim

--
Kimberly