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Madison Martin
Hi Richard,
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The context menu came up exactly as you described!! I changed it so that Jaws isn't running from the system tray.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: December 29, 2020 5:14 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: version questions If you have Jaws running from the system tray and you activate the Jaws shortcut on the desktop you should hear: JAWS Context Menu Run From Tray menu Options sub menu Then, if you arrow down you should hear: Utilities sub menu Language sub menu Help sub menu About... Exit If you are not hearing anything like that, tell us exactly what you hear. Or, you will likely need to call Freedom Scientific support or Microsoft Accessibility Support. Someone who can log into your system and see what is wrong and help you fix it. Richard, in the U.S. "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young." "Why, what did she tell you?" "I don't know, I didn't listen." -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy * I'm not the card shark * My web site, www.turner42.com * -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 3:10 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: version questions I just tried and it didn't say anything about the Jaws menu. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nermin via groups.io Sent: December 29, 2020 3:03 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: version questions Hi, I just press Insert+j. Another thing you can try is this: while on the desktop, press j until you get to your desired JAWS version, then press enter, pretending you want to start JAWS again. Instead of starting JAWS, either the context menu or the main window will come up. If the context menu comes up, press cursor up twice to get to the "About..." option within the menu, then press enter. Generally, you can use insert+1 to get into keyboard help mode in JAWS, and Insert+1 again to leave it. With that in mind, Madison, what happens if you press Insert+1, then press insert+j while in keyboard help mode? Use speech history to copy what it says by pressing JAWSKey+Space, followed by h. That will open up a speech history window you can navigate through and copy from using control+a, then Control+c to copy its contents. Also, it would be very helpful if we knew the exact brand and name of the laptop in question. Maybe you have some weird keyboard functions activated or some sort of multi media key conficuration. Regards, Nermin
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Bob Kennedy
Sorry if any of this has already been mentioned, I'm chiming in a lot late. Hopefully you chose laptop keyboard when Jaws was installed. If so, you should be able to use the caps lock in place of the insert key. Just choose caps lock and J together. I've never seen a laptop without at least the 4 arrow keys. Arrow up to about and enter. One other idea that I use is a bluetooth keyboard. The receiver plugs into a USB port and I have a full keyboard. Of course I have very large hands so typing on a laptop doesn't work well for me.
On Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 06:10:12 PM EST, Madison Martin <maddymartin@...> wrote: I don’t have a second insert key. This laptop doesn’t have a numbpad, it doesn’t even have home, end, or page up/down keys.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Do you have the 6 pack of keys somewhere on your keyboard with a second Insert key? If so what happens if you press this Insert key + J? If nothing happens, there's a setting in the Settings Center default all applications that needs to be turned on to use the second Insert key as a Jaws key. It's under the Keyboard heading / Jaws Insert key.
----- Original Message ----- From: Madison Martin Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 12:47 PM Subject: Re: version questions
I have my keyboard layout set to laptop, as that's the only way I have an insert key.
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Richard Turner
If you have Jaws running from the system tray and you activate the Jaws shortcut on the desktop you should hear:
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JAWS Context Menu Run From Tray menu Options sub menu Then, if you arrow down you should hear: Utilities sub menu Language sub menu Help sub menu About... Exit If you are not hearing anything like that, tell us exactly what you hear. Or, you will likely need to call Freedom Scientific support or Microsoft Accessibility Support. Someone who can log into your system and see what is wrong and help you fix it. Richard, in the U.S. "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young." "Why, what did she tell you?" "I don't know, I didn't listen." -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy * I'm not the card shark * My web site, www.turner42.com *
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 3:10 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: version questions I just tried and it didn't say anything about the Jaws menu. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nermin via groups.io Sent: December 29, 2020 3:03 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: version questions Hi, I just press Insert+j. Another thing you can try is this: while on the desktop, press j until you get to your desired JAWS version, then press enter, pretending you want to start JAWS again. Instead of starting JAWS, either the context menu or the main window will come up. If the context menu comes up, press cursor up twice to get to the "About..." option within the menu, then press enter. Generally, you can use insert+1 to get into keyboard help mode in JAWS, and Insert+1 again to leave it. With that in mind, Madison, what happens if you press Insert+1, then press insert+j while in keyboard help mode? Use speech history to copy what it says by pressing JAWSKey+Space, followed by h. That will open up a speech history window you can navigate through and copy from using control+a, then Control+c to copy its contents. Also, it would be very helpful if we knew the exact brand and name of the laptop in question. Maybe you have some weird keyboard functions activated or some sort of multi media key conficuration. Regards, Nermin
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Madison Martin
I don’t have a second insert key. This laptop doesn’t have a numbpad, it doesn’t even have home, end, or page up/down keys.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: December 29, 2020 2:58 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: version questions
Do you have the 6 pack of keys somewhere on your keyboard with a second Insert key? If so what happens if you press this Insert key + J? If nothing happens, there's a setting in the Settings Center default all applications that needs to be turned on to use the second Insert key as a Jaws key. It's under the Keyboard heading / Jaws Insert key.
----- Original Message ----- From: Madison Martin Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 12:47 PM Subject: Re: version questions
I have my keyboard layout set to laptop, as that's the only way I have an insert key.
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Madison Martin
I just tried and it didn't say anything about the Jaws menu.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nermin via groups.io Sent: December 29, 2020 3:03 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: version questions Hi, I just press Insert+j. Another thing you can try is this: while on the desktop, press j until you get to your desired JAWS version, then press enter, pretending you want to start JAWS again. Instead of starting JAWS, either the context menu or the main window will come up. If the context menu comes up, press cursor up twice to get to the "About..." option within the menu, then press enter. Generally, you can use insert+1 to get into keyboard help mode in JAWS, and Insert+1 again to leave it. With that in mind, Madison, what happens if you press Insert+1, then press insert+j while in keyboard help mode? Use speech history to copy what it says by pressing JAWSKey+Space, followed by h. That will open up a speech history window you can navigate through and copy from using control+a, then Control+c to copy its contents. Also, it would be very helpful if we knew the exact brand and name of the laptop in question. Maybe you have some weird keyboard functions activated or some sort of multi media key conficuration. Regards, Nermin
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Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
Hi, Madison. No. You have to be on the desktop to see the shortcut for JAWS. If you click that shortcut, your JAWS menu should come up.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Madison Martin Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 3:08 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: version questions Can I try this from anywhere? -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nermin via groups.io Sent: December 29, 2020 3:03 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: version questions Hi, I just press Insert+j. Another thing you can try is this: while on the desktop, press j until you get to your desired JAWS version, then press enter, pretending you want to start JAWS again. Instead of starting JAWS, either the context menu or the main window will come up. If the context menu comes up, press cursor up twice to get to the "About..." option within the menu, then press enter. Generally, you can use insert+1 to get into keyboard help mode in JAWS, and Insert+1 again to leave it. With that in mind, Madison, what happens if you press Insert+1, then press insert+j while in keyboard help mode? Use speech history to copy what it says by pressing JAWSKey+Space, followed by h. That will open up a speech history window you can navigate through and copy from using control+a, then Control+c to copy its contents. Also, it would be very helpful if we knew the exact brand and name of the laptop in question. Maybe you have some weird keyboard functions activated or some sort of multi media key conficuration. Regards, Nermin
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Madison Martin
Can I try this from anywhere?
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nermin via groups.io Sent: December 29, 2020 3:03 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: version questions Hi, I just press Insert+j. Another thing you can try is this: while on the desktop, press j until you get to your desired JAWS version, then press enter, pretending you want to start JAWS again. Instead of starting JAWS, either the context menu or the main window will come up. If the context menu comes up, press cursor up twice to get to the "About..." option within the menu, then press enter. Generally, you can use insert+1 to get into keyboard help mode in JAWS, and Insert+1 again to leave it. With that in mind, Madison, what happens if you press Insert+1, then press insert+j while in keyboard help mode? Use speech history to copy what it says by pressing JAWSKey+Space, followed by h. That will open up a speech history window you can navigate through and copy from using control+a, then Control+c to copy its contents. Also, it would be very helpful if we knew the exact brand and name of the laptop in question. Maybe you have some weird keyboard functions activated or some sort of multi media key conficuration. Regards, Nermin
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Madison Martin
Hi Bill, The checkbox is already checked, it said that it’s checked by default. Thanks for the suggestion anyway!!!
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: December 29, 2020 4:50 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: version questions
Hi, Madison. Do you have the following item checked in your JAWS settings,
1. Open JAWS settings, JAWS key plus six on the numbers row. 2. Select the Default JAWS configuration file with CONTROL plus SHIFT plus D. 3. In the search window, type the words extended insert 4. Look for an option like, Use Extended Insert not checked.‑ 5. If Use Extended Insert is unchecked, check it. 6. TAB to OK, and press ENTER.
Maybe this will fix your INSERT key.
Bill White
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Do you have the 6 pack of keys somewhere on your keyboard with a second Insert key? If so what happens if you press this Insert key + J? If nothing happens, there's a setting in the Settings Center default all applications that needs to be turned on to use the second Insert key as a Jaws key. It's under the Keyboard heading / Jaws Insert key.
----- Original Message ----- From: Madison Martin Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 12:47 PM Subject: Re: version questions
I have my keyboard layout set to laptop, as that's the only way I have an insert key.
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Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
Hi, Madison. Do you have the following item checked in your JAWS settings,
1. Open JAWS settings, JAWS key plus six on the numbers row. 2. Select the Default JAWS configuration file with CONTROL plus SHIFT plus D. 3. In the search window, type the words extended insert 4. Look for an option like, Use Extended Insert not checked.‑ 5. If Use Extended Insert is unchecked, check it. 6. TAB to OK, and press ENTER.
Maybe this will fix your INSERT key.
Bill White billwhite92701@...
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 12:58 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: version questions
Do you have the 6 pack of keys somewhere on your keyboard with a second Insert key? If so what happens if you press this Insert key + J? If nothing happens, there's a setting in the Settings Center default all applications that needs to be turned on to use the second Insert key as a Jaws key. It's under the Keyboard heading / Jaws Insert key.
----- Original Message ----- From: Madison Martin Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 12:47 PM Subject: Re: version questions
I have my keyboard layout set to laptop, as that's the only way I have an insert key.
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Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
You get to the JAWS menu by pressing the actual INSERT key, even if CAPSLOCK
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is your JAWS key. Since his INSERT key doesn't work, he's up a creek, until he can figure out why his INSERT key doesn't work. What I do in that case is to click on the actual JAWS shortcut on the desktop. Then the JAWS menu will come up when JAWS is in the System Tray. Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 12:48 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: version questions So, how do you get to the Jaws menu, in the laptop keyboard layout? Richard, in the U.S. "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young." "Why, what did she tell you?" "I don't know, I didn't listen." -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy * I'm not the card shark * My web site, www.turner42.com * -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nermin via groups.io Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 11:59 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: version questions Hi, Capslock+ j is not mapped to the JAWS window in the laptop keyboard layout. It is used for jumping to the prior word on the home row. Madison, are you using the jAWs laptop or desktop layout? Regards, Nermin
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Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
Hi, Jim. JAWS settings files are not plain text. The text files to which I was referring are my notes on what settings I changed from their defaults in JAWS.
Bill White billwhite92701@...
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Benstead
Hi Bill,
Have you ever tried using some of version control (like git or SVN) to manage your JAWS settings? Once it was set up it might make it easier to revert changes that have been made to settings (if I'm right in my assumption that JAWS settings files are all plain text).
On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 at 07:15, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:
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Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
Hi, Richard and list. CAPSLOCK plus J is Say Prior Word. That's why CAPSLOCK
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plus J doesn't work to bring up the JAWS menu. It must be done with an INSERT key. Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 11:23 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: version questions But, capslock+j says absolutely nothing? But typing the letter j obviously works. So, either capslock+j is being used for something else, or a Jaws repair or reinstall is needed. Richard, in the U.S. "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young." "Why, what did she tell you?" "I don't know, I didn't listen." -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy * I'm not the card shark * My web site, www.turner42.com * -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 11:14 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: version questions It says "unloading Jaws, are you sure you want to quit Jaws." -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: December 29, 2020 1:10 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: version questions What happens when you press capslock+f4? Richard, in the U.S. "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young." "Why, what did she tell you?" "I don't know, I didn't listen." -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy * I'm not the card shark * My web site, https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42 .com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C06b79ee598ec4b2caeeb08d8ac2d9c7d%7C84df9e7fe9f 640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448659178641305%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8e yJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000& ;sdata=0dJLOoITFCz%2FM3hyg99OBtXjxb5IGTtrahK3MRHNj9c%3D&reserved=0 * -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 11:10 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: version questions I think they already checked that out, as the reason we took it in was to have the tab key replaced as a piece broke off of it. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: December 29, 2020 12:57 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: version questions Maybe a short in the keyboard somewhere. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: December 29, 2020 01:54 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: version questions Sorry, but any key that reports that completely wrong information indicates there is a problem. Richard, in the U.S. "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young." "Why, what did she tell you?" "I don't know, I didn't listen." -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy * I'm not the card shark * My web site, https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42 .com %2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Caa5e5d77cfe3416035b508d8ac2d23cc%7C84df9e7fe9f640a fb43 5aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448657159601129%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiM C4wL jAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=KpVUm H4Gy Ck6HgP0RUVug5lXBPuGoJsRvak6R8Q3GVk%3D&reserved=0 * -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 10:46 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: version questions It doesn't say that when I press the capslock key, just when I accidentally press the actual insert key (it's right beside the delete key). -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: December 29, 2020 12:40 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: version questions A jaws repair sounds like the logical next step. Or, uninstalling Jaws and reinstalling it might get it back to normal and then customize as needed. But if the capslock key plus j doesn't work at all, but gives the message that alt+windows+q is being pressed, there is something else going on completely. Good luck Richard, in the U.S. "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young." "Why, what did she tell you?" "I don't know, I didn't listen." -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy * I'm not the card shark * My web site, https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42 .com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C355443d3348a42255b2408d8ac29a5a8%7C84df9e7fe9f 640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448642153220373%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8e yJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000& ;sdata=Qgxp7bSH4jr%2B%2BbGv%2B3PQsIRZYoaNON8S7leJL59SdBk%3D&reserved=0 * -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 10:34 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: version questions So you can do other JAWS commands with the JAWS modifier, but you can't bring up a JAWS menu, is what you're saying? Have you ever tried a JAWS re-install? -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin Sent: December 29, 2020 01:32 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: version questions Yes, it works fine on web pages. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: December 29, 2020 12:28 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: version questions Ok..so you normally use the caps lock key, right? But now that isn't working either? -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin Sent: December 29, 2020 01:29 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: version questions This is an issue that I've had since I got this laptop, and we took it in, but they couldn't figure out why it doesn't work. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: December 29, 2020 12:04 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: version questions If you are hearing alt+windows+q when pressing the insert key, you have issues that likely won't be resolved via email. I think perhaps it is time to call Microsoft Accessibility 800-936-5900 Or try calling Freedom Scientific, I don't have their support number memorized, but their sales number is 800-444-4443. Richard, in the U.S. "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young." "Why, what did she tell you?" "I don't know, I didn't listen." -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy * I'm not the card shark * My web site, https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42 .com %2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C792fa50e78a446fd790c08d8ac28637a%7C84df9e7fe9f640a fb43 5aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448636748001604%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiM C4wL jAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=m%2BG yQyD MGrjhlpV1tAPATWFdNlwkDKjV4Udcw1SgWMM%3D&reserved=0 * -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:53 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: version questions Capslock key, as the actual insert key on this laptop doesn't seem to work (it says alt windows q). -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: December 29, 2020 11:48 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: version questions Insert+j should never move to another icon. Are you sure you are hitting insert+j? which insert key are you using? Richard, in the U.S. "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young." "Why, what did she tell you?" "I don't know, I didn't listen." -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy * I'm not the card shark * My web site, https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42 .com %2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C576acca0d3cc40c4f25d08d8ac224836%7C84df9e7fe9f640a fb43 5aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448610521732036%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiM C4wL jAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=Dh1dM D7k3 ytpOAmoUWTc9Qquka5Qn1jqAuwOC%2FM1NdM%3D&reserved=0 * -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:48 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: version questions All it does when I press it is jump to another icon on my desktop. When I alt tab Jaws doesn't come up, so what does that mean? -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: December 29, 2020 11:40 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: version questions So when you hit insert-j, nothing happens? DO you have JAWS set to display in its own window or running from system tray? -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin Sent: December 29, 2020 12:38 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: version questions I can't seem to get insert j to work... -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: December 29, 2020 11:31 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: version questions Ok...up arrow twice then. :)Yes, exit is at the very bottom. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: December 29, 2020 12:28 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: version questions I was referring specifically to insert+j then up arrow once. For me, that lands on the exit button. Nothing about a version number. Richard, in the U.S. "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young." "Why, what did she tell you?" "I don't know, I didn't listen." -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy * I'm not the card shark * My web site, https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42 .com %2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C9a209a2679824f537e6e08d8ac219601%7C84df9e7fe9f640a fb43 5aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448607533468793%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiM C4wL jAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=8nMMf 8v%2 FHepOqrJu0YQFNivuxs%2FC21%2BdrKpE1zaKKYw%3D&reserved=0 * -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:25 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: version questions Hello Richard. I'm not sure what you mean by saying that "it doesn't work if you have jaws in the system tray". Unless something has changed recently, it does work here in this fashion. I have not had JAWS set to use its own window/not be in the system tray for many years. I also don't have JAWS 2021, though, so it's possible something has changed... -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: December 29, 2020 12:22 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: version questions Insert+j then up arrow does not work if you have Jaws in the System tray. But, insert+j followed by control+insert+v works in any setup. And, control+insert+v works in any and all programs. Twice quickly puts it in the virtual window so you can copy it by using shift+the arrow keys depending on how much you want to copy. Richard, in the U.S. "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young." "Why, what did she tell you?" "I don't know, I didn't listen." -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy * I'm not the card shark * My web site, https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42 .com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C1575a93d000c4e45ca1a08d8ac1ec0c1%7C84df9e7fe9f 640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448595362659658%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8e yJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000& ;sdata=ihaCiTUHgDkcVqwEgvNuFcL0R%2B3ZoUfKpwF1KXqR0V8%3D&reserved=0 * -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:21 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: version questions Yes that's what I'm wanting. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: December 29, 2020 10:49 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: version questions Hey Madison. A good way to get JAWS version information displayed inn a convenient little window is to go to the JAWS menu with jaws key + j, and hit up arrow once (probably, this might be version dependent I suppose, but it's usuallya t the bottom) to "about". Hit enter and you'll get what you need. As for outlook, I am not sure quite what it is that you want. You want to know your outlook version number and then paste it to someone? If you are getting that info with tge command JAWS commands to display the version information of an executable, this isn't displayed on screen so you can't copy and paste it as though it was a line of text placed in an edit field. It isn't. But if you wanted you could use speech history to retrieve it. Press insert space, then h, then up arrow til you find the text that you need, then copy and paste, and press escape. There are usually more efficient ways to get version info. I seem to remember outlook having an 'about" screen somewhere, too, but at the moment I can't find it. Haha -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin Sent: December 29, 2020 11:28 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: version questions Hi all, How do I get the exact version of Jaws that I'm running? Also, when I do the keystroke to get the Outlook version I copy and paste it, but it doesn't show up in the message, but as attachments, none of which are the actual version info they just seem to be recent messages, what am I doing wrong? Thanks Madison
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JM Casey
To avoid confusion, it might be best to just refer to it as the JAWS key -- it's the capslock key; it doesn't replace the insert key or turn into a new insert key.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin Sent: December 29, 2020 03:48 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: version questions I have my keyboard layout set to laptop, as that's the only way I have an insert key. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nermin via groups.io Sent: December 29, 2020 1:59 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: version questions Hi, Capslock+ j is not mapped to the JAWS window in the laptop keyboard layout. It is used for jumping to the prior word on the home row. Madison, are you using the jAWs laptop or desktop layout? Regards, Nermin
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Nermin
Hi,
I just press Insert+j. Another thing you can try is this: while on the desktop, press j until you get to your desired JAWS version, then press enter, pretending you want to start JAWS again. Instead of starting JAWS, either the context menu or the main window will come up. If the context menu comes up, press cursor up twice to get to the "About..." option within the menu, then press enter. Generally, you can use insert+1 to get into keyboard help mode in JAWS, and Insert+1 again to leave it. With that in mind, Madison, what happens if you press Insert+1, then press insert+j while in keyboard help mode? Use speech history to copy what it says by pressing JAWSKey+Space, followed by h. That will open up a speech history window you can navigate through and copy from using control+a, then Control+c to copy its contents. Also, it would be very helpful if we knew the exact brand and name of the laptop in question. Maybe you have some weird keyboard functions activated or some sort of multi media key conficuration. Regards, Nermin
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Mike B
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Do you have the 6 pack of keys somewhere on
your keyboard with a second Insert key? If so what happens if you press
this Insert key + J? If nothing happens, there's a setting in the
Settings Center default all applications
that needs to be turned on to use the second Insert key as a Jaws key.
It's under the Keyboard heading / Jaws Insert key.
Stay safe and take care. Mike.
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Subject: Re: version questions -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nermin via groups.io Sent: December 29, 2020 1:59 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: version questions Hi, Capslock+ j is not mapped to the JAWS window in the laptop keyboard layout. It is used for jumping to the prior word on the home row. Madison, are you using the jAWs laptop or desktop layout? Regards, Nermin
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Richard Turner
So, how do you get to the Jaws menu, in the laptop keyboard layout?
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Richard, in the U.S. "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young." "Why, what did she tell you?" "I don't know, I didn't listen." -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy * I'm not the card shark * My web site, www.turner42.com *
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nermin via groups.io Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 11:59 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: version questions Hi, Capslock+ j is not mapped to the JAWS window in the laptop keyboard layout. It is used for jumping to the prior word on the home row. Madison, are you using the jAWs laptop or desktop layout? Regards, Nermin
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Madison Martin
I have my keyboard layout set to laptop, as that's the only way I have an insert key.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nermin via groups.io Sent: December 29, 2020 1:59 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: version questions Hi, Capslock+ j is not mapped to the JAWS window in the laptop keyboard layout. It is used for jumping to the prior word on the home row. Madison, are you using the jAWs laptop or desktop layout? Regards, Nermin
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JM Casey
Oh snap.
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Well, there you go. They always say one should become familiar with the laptop layout even if not using a laptop or not using that layout on a regular basis and, this is part of the reason why.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nermin via groups.io Sent: December 29, 2020 02:59 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: version questions Hi, Capslock+ j is not mapped to the JAWS window in the laptop keyboard layout. It is used for jumping to the prior word on the home row. Madison, are you using the jAWs laptop or desktop layout? Regards, Nermin
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Nermin
Hi,
Capslock+ j is not mapped to the JAWS window in the laptop keyboard layout. It is used for jumping to the prior word on the home row. Madison, are you using the jAWs laptop or desktop layout? Regards, Nermin
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Re: JAWS 2021 and Brave Browser: Not Allowing Me To Navigate With Left/Right Arrow Keys In The Address Bar
James Benstead
Hi Bill, Have you ever tried using some of version control (like git or SVN) to manage your JAWS settings? Once it was set up it might make it easier to revert changes that have been made to settings (if I'm right in my assumption that JAWS settings files are all plain text).
On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 at 07:15, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:
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