Ah, yes, I see the problem. From the Setting Center type "edit" and toggle the setting for enhanced edit mode. That should definitely fix the problem.

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

 

Thanks for this but this was not the  setting change I was looking for.

Jaws 2021 will not interact with the text even with Jarte in screenreader mode. So I cannot for example navigate by word, though I can with Jaws 2020 and NVDA.

From memory it might be something to do with turning advance edit mode off or something like that in the Jaws settings.

I will go and have a look.

 

David G.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: David Goldfield
Sent: 27 November 2020 13:18
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Setting for Jarte

 

Hi. From this page:

If Jarte does not recognize your screen reader program then you can force Jarte to switch to screen reader mode by copying the phrase "enable screen reader mode" to the Windows clipboard before starting Jarte. This only needs to be done one time.

Note to JAWS users: Jarte is currently unable to recognize the presence of the JAWS screen reader. If you are using JAWS then you will need to use the method described in the preceeding paragraph to force Jarte into screen reader mode.

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 11/27/2020 8:02 AM, David Griffith wrote:

Could somebody remind me of the setting change needed to make Jarte work properly with Jaws? I think it was David who helpfully provided this a few weeks ago. Now I have JFW 2021 of course Jarte is no longer usable and I have instantly forgotten the setting change to Jaws needed to make it work again.

I can switch back to Jaws 2020 but it would be good to make 2021 compliant as well.

I will remember to save the tip this time.

David G.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 

 

Thanks for this but this was not the  setting change I was looking for.

Jaws 2021 will not interact with the text even with Jarte in screenreader mode. So I cannot for example navigate by word, though I can with Jaws 2020 and NVDA.

From memory it might be something to do with turning advance edit mode off or something like that in the Jaws settings.

I will go and have a look.

 

David G.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: David Goldfield
Sent: 27 November 2020 13:18
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Setting for Jarte

 

Hi. From this page:

If Jarte does not recognize your screen reader program then you can force Jarte to switch to screen reader mode by copying the phrase "enable screen reader mode" to the Windows clipboard before starting Jarte. This only needs to be done one time.

Note to JAWS users: Jarte is currently unable to recognize the presence of the JAWS screen reader. If you are using JAWS then you will need to use the method described in the preceeding paragraph to force Jarte into screen reader mode.

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 11/27/2020 8:02 AM, David Griffith wrote:

Could somebody remind me of the setting change needed to make Jarte work properly with Jaws? I think it was David who helpfully provided this a few weeks ago. Now I have JFW 2021 of course Jarte is no longer usable and I have instantly forgotten the setting change to Jaws needed to make it work again.

I can switch back to Jaws 2020 but it would be good to make 2021 compliant as well.

I will remember to save the tip this time.

David G.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 

Hi. From this page:

If Jarte does not recognize your screen reader program then you can force Jarte to switch to screen reader mode by copying the phrase "enable screen reader mode" to the Windows clipboard before starting Jarte. This only needs to be done one time.

Note to JAWS users: Jarte is currently unable to recognize the presence of the JAWS screen reader. If you are using JAWS then you will need to use the method described in the preceeding paragraph to force Jarte into screen reader mode.

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

Could somebody remind me of the setting change needed to make Jarte work properly with Jaws? I think it was David who helpfully provided this a few weeks ago. Now I have JFW 2021 of course Jarte is no longer usable and I have instantly forgotten the setting change to Jaws needed to make it work again.

I can switch back to Jaws 2020 but it would be good to make 2021 compliant as well.

I will remember to save the tip this time.

David G.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

Hi All I have this Openbook 9.0 version  since 2010 ,Is there a new verson of Openbook version ? If so ,where can I get it from?
Addison

Hi All I have this Openbook 9.0 version  since 2010 ,Is there a new verson of Openbook version ? If so ,where can I get it from?

Addison

Good tag. Are you Buddhist by chance? ;-)

On 11/27/2020 7:50 AM, Leo wrote:

well, that's a very good mnemonic device!

Leo

“Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.”
― haruki murakami,

On 11/27/2020 5:26 AM, David Goldfield wrote:

Leo, thanks so much for this tip as I also didn't know that this particular key opens the skim reading dialog. Once you have your rule set you can also press control-insert-down arrow to immediately begin skim reading. When Eric Damery first demonstrated the feature he had a great way to memorize the hotkey as he said to think of it as a controlled say all.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 11/27/2020 6:08 AM, Leo wrote:

hi, great topic, there are probably dozens of commands that are very useful, but we do not use them because we don't know them. Just right off the bat, I would put on the table the command for skim reading  document, it is mostly useful for long documents. The command is as follows:

jaws key plus control plus shift plus down arrow

Leo

“Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.”
― haruki murakami,

On 11/26/2020 6:59 PM, Mark wrote:

Just today I learned that if you turn JAWS help mode on with JAWS + 1  and then double tap a key command, you get a slightly different help description than if you press a key onces.  I had no idea about it.  Do you have any favourite but not well known JAWS commands? or commands that took you a long time to discover?

You could always use your friend, "Sharky!" to know the command. Just another way JAWS is working for yin the latest full upgrade. 

On Nov 27, 2020, at 5:09 AM, Leo <literophilus@...> wrote:



hi, great topic, there are probably dozens of commands that are very useful, but we do not use them because we don't know them. Just right off the bat, I would put on the table the command for skim reading  document, it is mostly useful for long documents. The command is as follows:

jaws key plus control plus shift plus down arrow

Leo

“Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.”
― haruki murakami,

On 11/26/2020 6:59 PM, Mark wrote:

Just today I learned that if you turn JAWS help mode on with JAWS + 1  and then double tap a key command, you get a slightly different help description than if you press a key onces.  I had no idea about it.  Do you have any favourite but not well known JAWS commands? or commands that took you a long time to discover?

the site where Jarte is gotten from says that there is no more support. that is why Jarte Plus (the formerly paid version) is now freely available.
I would imagine that that includes development.

-------- Original Message --------
From: David Goldfield [mailto:david.goldfield@outlook.com]
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Friday, November 27, 2020, 8:24 AM
Subject: Setting for Jarte
As an aside I don't understand why screen reader mode can't be included
as an option in the program's menu system to make it a bit easier for
users who either want to enable or disable this mode in a way that is a
bit more obvious. I will suggest this to the developers but I encourage
others to do the same if this is a feature you feel is important.
As another aside there are several other ways to enable screen reader
mode, including modifying a line of text in the .ini file but the method
described in my previous message is perhaps the simplest.
If NVDA is running Jarte does seem to detect this screen reader and the
screen reader mode is usually enabled automatically. I wish a similar
arrangement could be made for JAWS users.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.davidgoldfield.org%2F&;amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C5b7c47aa51884587a55d08d892e7a9e9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637420870965362517%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=Wn7Kjp3WyYpzABEpXIdI730YLz60FPWzQHRN44yLHDM%3D&amp;reserved=0

On 11/27/2020 8:18 AM, David Goldfield wrote:
Hi. From this page:
<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jarte.com%2Fhelp_new%2Fscreen_reader_mode.html&;amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C5b7c47aa51884587a55d08d892e7a9e9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637420870965362517%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=ClpCtPuRobiiNPtMn6B5w3QJm7yi7YFKlI2L6EAgKVo%3D&amp;reserved=0>

If Jarte does not recognize your screen reader program then you can
force Jarte to switch to screen reader mode by copying the phrase
"enable screen reader mode" to the Windows clipboard before starting
Jarte. This only needs to be done one time.

*Note to JAWS users:*Jarte is currently unable to recognize the
presence of the JAWS screen reader. If you are using JAWS then you
will need to use the method described in the preceeding paragraph to
force Jarte into screen reader mode.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.davidgoldfield.org%2F&;amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C5b7c47aa51884587a55d08d892e7a9e9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637420870965372512%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=clnyEa%2F%2FCNiw2KocGHJ6qVt5kWOIH5YV%2FC%2B55xdFPuo%3D&amp;reserved=0
On 11/27/2020 8:02 AM, David Griffith wrote:

Could somebody remind me of the setting change needed to make Jarte
work properly with Jaws? I think it was David who helpfully provided
this a few weeks ago. Now I have JFW 2021 of course Jarte is no
longer usable and I have instantly forgotten the setting change to
Jaws needed to make it work again.

I can switch back to Jaws 2020 but it would be good to make 2021
compliant as well.

I will remember to save the tip this time.

David G.

Sent from Mail
<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgo.microsoft.com%2Ffwlink%2F%3FLinkId%3D550986&;amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C5b7c47aa51884587a55d08d892e7a9e9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637420870965372512%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=NC3kfGGrUlBgk59jRv4SqJR2qR39lhtc58ZFdnCuuEw%3D&amp;reserved=0>
for Windows 10

On Nov 27, 2020, at 5:09 AM, Leo <literophilus@...> wrote:



hi, great topic, there are probably dozens of commands that are very useful, but we do not use them because we don't know them. Just right off the bat, I would put on the table the command for skim reading  document, it is mostly useful for long documents. The command is as follows:

jaws key plus control plus shift plus down arrow

Leo

“Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.”
― haruki murakami,

On 11/26/2020 6:59 PM, Mark wrote:

Just today I learned that if you turn JAWS help mode on with JAWS + 1  and then double tap a key command, you get a slightly different help description than if you press a key onces.  I had no idea about it.  Do you have any favourite but not well known JAWS commands? or commands that took you a long time to discover?

Hello All-


Thanks MUCH for the help...I plan on getting started in setting it up
today.



--
I am Listening for the Shout!,
(1 Thessalonians 4:17-18)

George
Helpful hint:
How to protect your wealth:
"Rule No. 1: Never lose money.
Rule No. 2: Never forget rule No. 1." Warren Buffett
1 Timothy 6:10
"For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted
after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with
many sorrows."



--
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
https://www.avast.com/antivirus

On Nov 27, 2020, at 6:56 AM, Marie <magpie.mn@...> wrote:

When you can activate Narrator is sort of a guess, but not long after you press the power button, press the ctrl+windows key +enter. If it does not start up, wait a few minutes and try again. This is the toggle to turn Narrator off or on.

Marie

 

 

From: G. Gray

Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2020 8:59 PM

To: jaws list

Subject: need help with loading narrator on a new windows 10 laptop

 

Hello All-

I just got a new win 10 HP laptop.  It is still in the box, but I want to begin to set the thing up.  How and when can I start Narrator to help with this? 

Is the command n and then enter?

Thanks!!!!

-- 
I am Listening for the Shout!,
(1 Thessalonians 4:17-18)

George
Helpful hint:
How to  protect your wealth:
"Rule No. 1: Never lose money. 
Rule No. 2: Never forget rule No. 1."  Warren Buffett
1 Timothy 6:10
"For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows."

---

This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com

well, that's a very good mnemonic device!

Leo

“Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.”
― haruki murakami,

On 11/27/2020 5:26 AM, David Goldfield wrote:

Leo, thanks so much for this tip as I also didn't know that this particular key opens the skim reading dialog. Once you have your rule set you can also press control-insert-down arrow to immediately begin skim reading. When Eric Damery first demonstrated the feature he had a great way to memorize the hotkey as he said to think of it as a controlled say all.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 11/27/2020 6:08 AM, Leo wrote:

hi, great topic, there are probably dozens of commands that are very useful, but we do not use them because we don't know them. Just right off the bat, I would put on the table the command for skim reading  document, it is mostly useful for long documents. The command is as follows:

jaws key plus control plus shift plus down arrow

Leo

“Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.”
― haruki murakami,

On 11/26/2020 6:59 PM, Mark wrote:

Just today I learned that if you turn JAWS help mode on with JAWS + 1  and then double tap a key command, you get a slightly different help description than if you press a key onces.  I had no idea about it.  Do you have any favourite but not well known JAWS commands? or commands that took you a long time to discover?

Hi. From this page:

If Jarte does not recognize your screen reader program then you can force Jarte to switch to screen reader mode by copying the phrase "enable screen reader mode" to the Windows clipboard before starting Jarte. This only needs to be done one time.

Note to JAWS users: Jarte is currently unable to recognize the presence of the JAWS screen reader. If you are using JAWS then you will need to use the method described in the preceeding paragraph to force Jarte into screen reader mode.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 11/27/2020 8:02 AM, David Griffith wrote:

Could somebody remind me of the setting change needed to make Jarte work properly with Jaws? I think it was David who helpfully provided this a few weeks ago. Now I have JFW 2021 of course Jarte is no longer usable and I have instantly forgotten the setting change to Jaws needed to make it work again.

I can switch back to Jaws 2020 but it would be good to make 2021 compliant as well.

I will remember to save the tip this time.

David G.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

Could somebody remind me of the setting change needed to make Jarte work properly with Jaws? I think it was David who helpfully provided this a few weeks ago. Now I have JFW 2021 of course Jarte is no longer usable and I have instantly forgotten the setting change to Jaws needed to make it work again.

I can switch back to Jaws 2020 but it would be good to make 2021 compliant as well.

I will remember to save the tip this time.

David G.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10